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And its really, I think been one 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,800 of the nice things that the committee has done. 55 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,700 I've had my complaints about the committee and the way that they 56 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:18,600 do business, but this was actually a really cool thing 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,200 that they added and Really helps us to get an insight into what 58 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,800 their overall thinking is because it used to be that we 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,600 had no clue what the committee was thinking until the day of 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,800 the tournament. And so a lot of guesswork went 61 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,500 into just trying to figure out as people tried to predict 62 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,200 brackets. Like what does the committee 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,000 think is important in a given year? 64 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:40,200 Because one of the things I think is important for people to 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,200 realize is that those criteria tend to change sometimes 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,800 incrementally and sometimes by big Leaps and Bounds between 67 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:50,800 years and and some of that. That there's actually a 68 00:03:50,808 --> 00:03:55,700 question, we've got that came in from folks, this was actually 69 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:57,700 from Craig Davis, it's a great thing to start with. 70 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:01,200 Why does The Selection committee each year, seemingly change what 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,400 they prioritize when seating teams and it's a great question 72 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,000 by Craig because if you've paid attention, you'll note that it 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,400 is different every year and in some cases you'll see a 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,700 preference for how many games did teams win against tournament 75 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:22,100 bound. Sometimes it's how well did a 76 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:25,600 team play in Road and neutral environment so away from home 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,500 because that's important. Obviously since the tournament 78 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:32,900 is not played on a team's home court, sometimes it's their 79 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:36,700 resume, their overall strength of record or how they show up in 80 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:40,300 kpi, which is one of the metrics that's used to to measure 81 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:43,500 essentially, how well a team performed against the record 82 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:47,000 that they played against and how good that that schedule was in 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,100 the first place. Sometimes they'll put more 84 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:50,300 predictive. Two things. 85 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:53,900 And by that, we mean, the things like be Pi, which is ESPN's 86 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:59,500 proprietary metric can pom Sager in these are all what we call 87 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:02,400 predictive metrics, because they take what a team has done. 88 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:05,600 And they try to calculate a power score essentially that can 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,500 be applied to that team's games against other teams. 90 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:12,100 And so, there's all these different metrics and I used to 91 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:14,900 factor other things in as well. They would factor in how, well, 92 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:17,300 a team did in their last 10 games leading into the 93 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:19,700 tournament. They've officially stopped. 94 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:22,000 King at that. I have a sneaking suspicion. 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,800 They unofficially. Look at it a little bit. 96 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:28,000 But the reason why it changes year-to-year Craig to answer the 97 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,300 question, finally is a, the committee changes every year. 98 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:36,400 The committee is comprised of 10 individuals that are drawn from 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,300 the different areas of division. One college basketball. 100 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:43,900 It's almost always either conference Commissioners or 101 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:47,600 athletic directors at individual schools, but each of those 102 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,400 groups or each of those individuals, Represents a group. 103 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:58,800 So you normally have a plurality of people on the committee that 104 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,300 come from, what we would, you know, call power conferences. 105 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,000 And so they're of course, you're talking about like the Big Ten 106 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:14,000 or the ACC or the SEC and, you know, that is normally, you 107 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,500 know, an interesting thing to look at because the membership 108 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:22,300 changes every year people, Belen and cycle out. 109 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:25,900 And it's not always the same people like this year. 110 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:29,000 When you look at the committee, I'll kind of run through who 111 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,200 everybody is. You've got Action. 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,300 It's 12. Now, not 10, my mistake. 113 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,300 So from the power conferences, you've got Jamie Pollard who's 114 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:42,200 the Iowa State athletic director, and he will serve 115 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,400 until 2024. So until next year, you've got 116 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,300 Bubba Cunningham who's the North Carolina athletic director, he's 117 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:51,400 served for 20 25. Then you've got three new 118 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 members from the power conferences, Minnesota's 119 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,100 athletic director Mark coil Arizona's athletic director 120 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:01,500 Dave, he key and then Alabama's athletic director, Greg burn, 121 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:06,000 Then you've got representatives from the non power conferences 122 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,400 so you've got the Sun Belt, commissioner Keith Gil, you've 123 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,800 got Barry Collier who's the butler athletic director and, 124 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,000 you know, while Butler is technically in the Big East 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,300 which is of course, a power basketball conference. 126 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,900 Excuse me. Well, yes, they're not in 127 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:21,800 football. There's no football Big East. 128 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,500 So, they actually belong to kind of a different category of 129 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:27,900 division. One Elsewhere on the committee, 130 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:30,500 you've got the Samford athletic director, the Big Sky 131 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:33,700 commissioner The swac commissioner, who's the vice 132 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:37,200 chairman, the Atlantic 10 commissioner and then the 133 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,400 chairman this year is Chris Reynolds, who of course is an IU 134 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Alum, but is also the athletic director for Bradley University, 135 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,800 which is in the Missouri Valley, which again is a non football 136 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,000 playing Division, 1 conference. So you put all those together, 137 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:59,200 And what you find is a mix of people and they rotate on and 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,900 off and new. Two, people will take their 139 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:03,700 place based upon their classification. 140 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:07,100 Now that's probably more back story than you needed, but 141 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:10,200 ultimately what that means is that perspectives change a 142 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,800 little bit every year because you're dealing with a different 143 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,700 group of people. And, you know, there's always 144 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:19,500 been some question about how much, how objective can those 145 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:24,200 those groups of people be really in terms of judging teams and, 146 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,100 you know, No, everybody claims that there's complete 147 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:30,200 objectivity but there's really no complete objectivity. 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,000 And anything related to sports you're going to be to some 149 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,700 degree influenced by the bias is related to what you're watching. 150 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,400 And in the case of someone like Chris Reynolds who obviously 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,600 knows basketball very well, what he would probably see as being 152 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,100 important, might be a little bit different from what somebody 153 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:50,600 else on the committee might see is important. 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,900 And what happens through this process is that there's a voting 155 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:56,800 process Everything. There's a voting process on 156 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,900 adding teams to the overall consideration field. 157 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:02,400 There's a voting process on which teams actually make it in 158 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,400 as at large has and it's a ballot system where a lot of 159 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,100 compromises end up being made. So, I give you all of that 160 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:14,100 because when you go back and you look at what happened yesterday 161 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:18,700 in the reveal, what we saw was and I've seen people criticizing 162 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:23,300 this online, there's not a tremendous amount of consistency 163 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:26,600 in terms of what the committee. He seems to be preferring, you 164 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,500 know, you've got a team like Indiana who was 13th out of the 165 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,500 16 teams that were listed, and many people didn't have them in 166 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:36,900 the top 16. And there were a lot of 167 00:09:36,908 --> 00:09:39,200 questions, like, how did Indiana get ranked that high? 168 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,600 How are they higher than Connecticut? 169 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,900 How are they higher than Creighton? 170 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,300 And some of that is going to be due to committee balance and and 171 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:51,300 compromise, essentially where Indiana probably to some degree 172 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:53,400 represents. A bit of a platonic ideal 173 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:58,200 between Two primary areas that we generally try to judge teams 174 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,100 in and those two are how is their record against teams that 175 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:03,400 they played. And then how are their 176 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,900 predictive statistics in terms of what, how good we think they 177 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:10,500 are compared to everybody else. So what do you think about it 178 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:11,700 that way? It kind of makes sense. 179 00:10:11,708 --> 00:10:15,800 And it's probably a good thing for Indiana because Indiana, 180 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,000 when you look at their overall resume, it's actually pretty 181 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,500 balanced. It's not so heavy, like Yukons 182 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:27,000 in. Addictive rankings and it's also 183 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,600 not so heavy on resume that they have to rely on that entirely. 184 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,600 So, you know, I think that that gives us a bit of a clue about 185 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,200 what the committee's going to be looking for this time around. 186 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,900 And and I think that that idea of teams that have some kind of 187 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:46,300 a balance between, how well they've performed thus far. 188 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:50,600 And how well they're projected to perform later on is going to 189 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,300 be something that really weighs on the committee pretty heavily 190 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:56,000 and that's Again, I think it's good for Indiana. 191 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,500 I think it's good for a few teams that have a nice balance 192 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:01,400 between those two. I think Kansas State a team 193 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,500 that's ahead of Indiana has kind of got the same sort of benefit 194 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:09,000 being given to them so that could shift a little bit and a 195 00:11:09,008 --> 00:11:13,900 lot of this is really dependent on how the overall field looks 196 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:17,800 by the time you get ready to actually go in and start seeding 197 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,700 the field there and getting teams placed in the field and 198 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,600 that week leading into the selection show. 199 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:25,300 The other thing that I really noticed Oh, and this is 200 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:27,300 something I think that's going to be a key element. 201 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:32,500 Moving forward for this year is how did your team compete 202 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:35,800 against the other teams that are currently under consideration to 203 00:11:35,808 --> 00:11:37,600 be in the field? And this is where Indiana 204 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,700 actually fares very well. Especially compared to a team 205 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:43,300 like Creighton. If you look at Indiana right now 206 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:47,300 with the teams that I've got in the field, they are 11 and 8 207 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,900 against that board of teams Creighton right now, despite 208 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:54,100 being projected to be better than Indiana in terms of power 209 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:58,500 numbers. Actually has a worst record 210 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,500 against teams that are going to be in the field. 211 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:03,900 You're talking about Creighton right now six and seven against 212 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:07,500 teams in the field and that is a really important thing to keep 213 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:09,500 in mind because it's not just about the quads. 214 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:11,800 The quads are important to a degree and I'm going to talk 215 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,300 about the quads in a little bit, but it's about who you actually 216 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,300 beat in the quads. So, you know, when you look at 217 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:23,200 Indiana, they've got sick squad, one wins right now, and five of 218 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,900 those wins are against Teams that are essentially locks to 219 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:30,500 make the NCAA tournament Purdue at Xavier at Illinois. 220 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:33,700 Illinois at home, Rutgers at home. 221 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,200 And then the one that isn't in that mix is at Michigan. 222 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,100 You look at Creighton who's had a great run there, you know, 223 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:43,800 there, I think one game out of first place in the Big East of 224 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,200 their wins against quad. One teams, only three of the 225 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,600 four that they've got are against teams that right now are 226 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,800 likely to be in the NCAA tournament home against 227 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Connecticut. Neutral Court, win against 228 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,500 Arkansas and then a home win against Xavier. 229 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:02,300 So, again, it's not just about the, you know, the, the raw 230 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:05,100 numbers it's about who are the teams that you're beating and 231 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:08,600 how do they sit within the larger perspective of the NCAA 232 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,500 tournament draw. So Craig, I hope that answers 233 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:14,100 that question. It's again, it's a complicated 234 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:17,800 process and a lot of what a committee will decide to focus 235 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,500 on will be a little bit different from the previous 236 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,900 year, and then it'll be different again. 237 00:13:21,900 --> 00:13:24,900 The next year, it's one of the Things that makes Bracketology 238 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,600 as much fun to do as it is because you're kind of trying to 239 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,200 aim at a moving, Target to some degree and it can be 240 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,700 frustrating. And a lot of people Express 241 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:37,100 frustration after the reveal yesterday because it doesn't 242 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:40,800 match either what the thing looked like last year or what, 243 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,000 their perception of what it should look like is, but that's 244 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,800 how the process goes. Let's dive in and talk. 245 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,700 Some other questions that we got here. 246 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,500 There were some good ones. We had a couple of questions 247 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:53,800 from one of the private chats that Time in. 248 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:56,000 So this is a really good question. 249 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Overall, why do they have the first weekend games in random 250 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,300 places? Like, why are quote unquote East 251 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:05,100 rounds in Sacramento? So on and so forth. 252 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,600 That's an excellent question. And a lot of it really comes 253 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,900 down to a decision. The NCAA made, I want to say it 254 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:15,300 was probably somewhere between 10 and 15 years ago where they 255 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:19,500 decided that it would make sense to uncouple the first and second 256 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:23,500 round sites from the regional sites with the idea that It 257 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:29,700 would make it easier on teams to travel and for the top seeded 258 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:34,600 teams to have fans, be able to go see them and buy tickets. 259 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:38,300 And you know, this is a process that I think has probably gotten 260 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,200 more complicated than it needed to get. 261 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,200 If you go all the way back to the 80s and the 90s and the 262 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 early 2000s in the NCAA tournament, it used to be that 263 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 they would say, Hey you know Midwest Regional the regional 264 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,700 finals, going to be In Kansas City, and the first and second 265 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:59,200 round matchups are going to be in Des Moines and Indianapolis. 266 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,900 And so if you were a one seed, you were going to get placed in 267 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:08,100 the Indianapolis region. And so with the 16 8 and 9 that 268 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,200 would be kind of that sub-regional and then the other 269 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,100 sub Regional would probably be in Des Moines. 270 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,600 And so you would end up playing first and second round games 271 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,900 with the four seed in the 13 and the 5 in the 12 deciding to 272 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:25,200 uncouple that meant that You could be in the eat in the 273 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:28,100 Midwest region and play your first and second round games in 274 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:31,700 a non Midwest, City with the idea that that would be more 275 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:33,800 favorable to whoever the top seeds were. 276 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,400 So let's use this here as an example. 277 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,300 This year there are for regionals, the East Regional is 278 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,500 going to be held in New York City at Madison Square Garden. 279 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,600 The Midwest regionals going to be in Kansas City. 280 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,700 The south regional is going to be in Louisville, which I know 281 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:49,500 confuses. A lot of people because they 282 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:52,100 don't like Louisville, distant, scream, South, but according to 283 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:56,500 the way the NCAA Has the country the you know, because Kentucky's 284 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:59,300 in the SEC and because Louisville's in the ACC 285 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:02,300 Kentucky's considered part of the South, where is Indiana's 286 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:05,100 considered part of the Midwest. Go figure and in the west 287 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:08,700 regionals in Las Vegas. So those are your for regionals 288 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,800 and then the way that it works is there are eight first and 289 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,700 second round sites. And these were all chosen like 290 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:16,400 four or five years ago, stadiums. 291 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,500 And, and their hosts have to bid on them. 292 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:23,500 And so the eight regionals that you've got this year actually 293 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:27,000 They were still doing it the old way, would correspond very well 294 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:31,100 to the sites, you know, the Regionals that they would feed 295 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:34,000 into. So for instance you've got the 296 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,900 eight sites this year, our Albany Birmingham Columbus 297 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:43,400 Denver Des Moines, Greensboro Orlando and Sacramento so if we 298 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,100 were doing it in like the traditional style it's pretty 299 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:50,100 obvious like Sacramento would feed into the West Regional and 300 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:53,500 Denver would feed into the West Regional probably and then in 301 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,800 the South. It would almost certainly be 302 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,300 Birmingham and Orlando in the East. 303 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:03,200 It would be Greensboro and Albany, and then in the midwest, 304 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,000 it would be Columbus and Des Moines. 305 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,599 But the way that it works now is it actually allows, let's take a 306 00:17:10,608 --> 00:17:13,900 team like Kansas Kansas right now is under strong 307 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:18,700 consideration to be a one seed and Kansas is probably not going 308 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:21,300 to get the number one seed in the Midwest region. 309 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:23,300 Unless Houston, loses a couple of games. 310 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:27,300 So Kansas right now in my most recent bracket, I have them in 311 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:32,000 the west region, they get placed there, but then after they get 312 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,300 placed in the west region because there were 1 seed, you 313 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:37,200 go through, and you look at, what would be the most 314 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,100 advantageous, Geographic spot to put Kansas in. 315 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,200 So right now, I have them third in my pecking order of Alabama 316 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,800 first Houston, second Kansas third, Purdue forth. 317 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,700 So let's take those four and do a little exercise with it 318 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,300 Alabama gets because they're the Over one overall seed, they get 319 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:58,600 the top geographical geographically, friendly, pick 320 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,000 of regional, which for them, would be the South Region, which 321 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,900 is going to be held in Louisville and then they would 322 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:08,900 get the top pick for friendliest first, and second round 323 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,600 geographical match up with. And these are almost always done 324 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,300 just exclusively by driving distance. 325 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,900 So Alabama would be in the south regional in Louisville and then 326 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:21,300 their first and second round would clearly be in Birmingham 327 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,500 because birmingham's only what an hour. 328 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:28,500 Way from from Tuscaloosa. So Alabama gets there first and 329 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:31,600 second round matchups in Birmingham and that means that 330 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,400 the 16 see the eighth seed in the nine seed will also feed 331 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,700 into that Birmingham, first, and second round matchup Houston. 332 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,500 As the second actually could gets kind of screwed this year 333 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:45,600 because they are is not a closed first and second round spot. 334 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,800 So we first start with Houston with the regional that they 335 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,500 would go in and because they get the second pick, they get Kansas 336 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,000 City, which is the Ed West Regional even though it would be 337 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 more convenient to put Kansas there, because Kansas is much 338 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,900 closer. Huston gets priority because 339 00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:02,800 they're ahead of Kansas in the pecking order. 340 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:07,000 So Houston gets Kansas City in the Midwest region and then we 341 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,400 have to put them in a first and second round matchup and believe 342 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,400 it or not the closest from a driving distance perspective for 343 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,100 Houston is Birmingham. So we put Houston in the 344 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,200 Birmingham first and second round. 345 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,900 And that means that in the midwest, again, the 8 9 and 16 s 346 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:26,100 will be potted with them. That site under this scenario 347 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:31,700 then Kansas goes to the next most likely Geographic or next, 348 00:19:31,700 --> 00:19:34,700 most friendly geographical spot from a driving distance. 349 00:19:34,700 --> 00:19:37,800 And that is neither of these are friendly because you're picking 350 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,700 between Las Vegas and New York City. 351 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:44,500 Las Vegas is slightly closer than New York City and I think 352 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,600 at this point, it would be likely that Kansas would get 353 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,100 that west region their first and second round, they get third 354 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,800 pick, they would get the one, that's the closest to them 355 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,000 geographically. In this case that's Des Moines 356 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,300 and which is not that terribly far away from Lawrence. 357 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:00,700 And so they would play their first and second round matchups 358 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,600 in Des Moines, and then they would get their Regional 359 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,000 provided. They made it past the first and 360 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,800 second round in Las Vegas. And then Purdue is the fourth 361 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,600 would get the last Regional, which in this case is the East, 362 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,100 which is New York City, and then they would get the closest 363 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:18,500 geographical site for first and second round, which is Columbus 364 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:20,800 Ohio. So, that's how Purdue ends up in 365 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,900 Columbus. Routing into New York city. 366 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,800 So hopefully that answers. That question. 367 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,700 It is it is again, kind of a complicated process in terms of 368 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:32,800 trying to figure out how all of it works because you're dealing 369 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,800 with a bunch of different things and you really kind of have to 370 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,500 know the distances and what the home regions are and things like 371 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:40,400 that for each of these individual teams. 372 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:44,100 But once you get that down, it becomes a little bit easier to 373 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:47,500 figure out, you know. Would it be simpler if they just 374 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,700 said, hey first and second round in the East are going to be 375 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:52,800 played in these two cities? It would be easier to And but 376 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,900 wouldn't be as convenient for the fans of those teams that get 377 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:59,200 placed. Because like in this case, you 378 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,200 know, Kansas actually gets penalized for going out west 379 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:06,000 because that instead of being able to play in Des Moines, 380 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,100 which is only about three four hours away. 381 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:11,200 Instead they're having to play in either Denver which is 382 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,100 further away or Sacramento, which is much further away. 383 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,100 So there is a reason for it to happen. 384 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,800 A similar question that we got asked from JD Gabby. 385 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,900 What is Protected about seeds 1 through 4 and with IU basketball 386 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:28,400 specifically what's the best-case first weekend 387 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800 location? Assuming they land somewhere, 3, 388 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,100 4 5 or 6 in terms of seating. So let me take the first 389 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:37,500 question first because you hear this term a lot and it's not 390 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:39,200 really well described ever. What is it? 391 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,500 Protected seed the idea behind the protected seeds is fairly 392 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,500 simple as that you want to place teams in a spot where they're 393 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:50,500 not going to be geographically disadvantaged when they play 394 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:54,200 another team. That first and second round. 395 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:59,000 And so, what that means is essentially you will accommodate 396 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,900 those teams by trying to put them in a spot where they're 397 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:04,100 going to, you know, not just, you know, if they can get a 398 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,900 benefit of playing close to their home, great. 399 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,300 But you also don't want to put them in a spot where for 400 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:13,500 instance like let's say, you know, this is kind of an off 401 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:17,400 example, but like let's say Kansas is, you know, playing in 402 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,700 Des Moines as the one seed. Let's say Iowa was an eight 403 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:22,200 seed. You wouldn't put that Them 404 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,300 there. Because that would be 405 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,700 disadvantageous to Kansas having to travel to Des Moines and 406 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,100 playing Iowa team, that's basically just driving an hour 407 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:31,600 and a half, and we'll have essentially a home crowd. 408 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,100 So, that's really where the protection works. 409 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,800 It's this idea that for the top four seeds in each region, we 410 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,500 want to give them as much of an advantage as we can, and not 411 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:43,200 give them a disadvantage in terms of who they have to play 412 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:46,300 in the second game, or sometimes, even in the first 413 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:48,900 game. So, when you work through, this 414 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:52,500 is where kind of the drafting system ends up helping I 415 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:55,600 mentioned like Alabama is the number one Houston is the number 416 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:01,200 two they get as close to a protected setup as they can and 417 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,600 for Alabama and Alabama has case. 418 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,300 They're getting essentially a game that's like right in their 419 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:09,000 backyard. You start going through and I'll 420 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,500 just let me just rattle through like, where I placed each of the 421 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,500 teams. In my most updated bracket, this 422 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,800 was based off the ncaa's reveal, and then also the games that 423 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,200 happened yesterday. So, Texas would be the fifth 424 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,200 overall team they'd be the First to seed. 425 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:26,500 So we would look at them and we and this is where bracketing 426 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:29,000 rule start to come in and it really does get complicated 427 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,300 here. The goal is to try to keep the 428 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:36,700 Region's balanced in terms of the overall rating of the top 429 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:41,800 four teams in the region. So the idea is you don't want 430 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,500 like all the best ones seeds, all the best to seeds, all the 431 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:45,800 best. Three seeds, all the best for 432 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,300 seeds in the same region. You would split those up as much 433 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:51,600 as you could. You're also trying to keep the 434 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,900 top. Three teams in each conference 435 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,000 away from each other. As much as you can as among the 436 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,100 top four seeds. So Texas is, this is an 437 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:05,900 interesting case, like with Texas, the best spot for them to 438 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:10,100 go actually ends up being in the Midwest region and it makes the 439 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:13,000 region a little bit unbalanced because it means that you've got 440 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000 the second best one seed and the best to seat now in the same 441 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,300 region, according to the way that we've ranked things. 442 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,900 So we have to basically accommodate for that a little 443 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:24,900 bit later on Iran by placing some week or three and four 444 00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:27,600 seeds if we can. But it works out perfectly 445 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,900 because you've got Houston, who's in the American and you've 446 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,500 got Texas in the Big 12, they're not in the same conference, so 447 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,300 we've managed to avoid any conflicts. 448 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:38,900 There are six, overall is Arizona. 449 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,000 Arizona gets popped into the West. 450 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,900 It's their natural geographical home. 451 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:46,700 There are Pac-12 school and they're not facing off against 452 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,800 another Pac-12 school. You know, we wouldn't want to 453 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,100 put Kansas and Texas in the same spot because they're in the 454 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,700 same. Region, you're trying to avoid 455 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,200 that as much as possible. In this case, you've got Kansas 456 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,900 able to face off against Arizona. 457 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,500 That's the third overall team in the sixth overall. 458 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,800 TEAM Arizona gets placed in Denver because that's the 459 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,800 closest geographical spot for them. 460 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:11,600 Our seventh team overall is Baylor and again we're putting 461 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,400 Baylor in a spot where they're not matching up against another 462 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,600 big 12 team as the one seat. So, in this case, they go to the 463 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:23,200 South to take on Alabama and then UCLA and Zip being kind of 464 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,800 the odd team out, they get moved to the East and they get to play 465 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,800 in Sacramento in the first and second round. 466 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:32,500 But now we've got the weakest one seat in the weakest two seed 467 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:34,000 in the East. So we need to compensate for 468 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,900 that a little bit. Fortunately, our ninth overall 469 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,000 team with the results that happened yesterday. 470 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Is Virginia and Virginia would naturally get placed in the East 471 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,800 so they end up being the best three seed opposite. 472 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,700 The worst 2 seed in our rankings and UCLA Virginia goes to 473 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,500 Greensboro. That is Far, the best 474 00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:56,900 geographical location that we could put them in of all of them 475 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:59,100 and it ends up working out because we haven't had a team go 476 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:03,400 to Greensboro yet, our 10th overall team is Tennessee who as 477 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,400 it turns out also goes to Greensboro for first and second 478 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,200 round and Tennessee. You don't want to put them in 479 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,600 the South because you want to keep them away from Alabama. 480 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200 You want to try to get those top three teams in the SEC and 481 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,400 separate areas. So instead we put Tennessee in 482 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,000 the midwest where they fit really nicely and then then our 483 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,300 11th overall is Kansas state. Now this is where things start 484 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:31,400 to break down a little bit because there are so many Big 12 485 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,600 teams in key spots that we have to find a way to split them 486 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,700 apart a little bit. In this case, what we're going 487 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:40,800 to do is put Baylor in Kansas State in the same sub-region. 488 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,600 So unfortunately and we try to avoid this. 489 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,100 If we can, you're going to have a matchup between those two 490 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:51,300 teams, if they both make it in the sweet 16 but that works out 491 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:55,200 better than putting Big 12 team in Kansas has region. 492 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,300 Instead, that's where Indiana ends up going. 493 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,200 So, Indiana ends up being the three seed that goes to the 494 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,400 West. Now, we could have just put 495 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Indiana in the South, but there was a choice made here to try to 496 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,700 balance things as best we could. There's so many Big 12 teams in 497 00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:11,500 those top four seeds. It's hard to get everything to 498 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,100 fit together. Hopefully this isn't too 499 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,700 confusing but that's essentially how the process goes. 500 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,900 So hopefully that kind of explains it. 501 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:21,600 The goal is to try to keep as much protection as you can for 502 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,300 the top. Eads and also try to keep 503 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:28,200 conferences away from each other and least until they get to the 504 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,700 Sweet 16. The other question that JD had, 505 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,700 what is the best case first weekend location for IU? 506 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,500 I mean, I would argue that if Indiana could get into it. 507 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,000 You'd want to either go to Columbus or to Des Moines. 508 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,300 Those are the two that are the closest geographically. 509 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,700 But there's honestly, there aren't a whole lot of like 510 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:51,600 terrible options for Indiana. I've got them in Albany. 511 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,600 But you know, that's largely because Kansas State ended up 512 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,300 taking the slot in Columbus that was still on the board in the, 513 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:04,900 the the draw right before. So, you know, I think likely 514 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,500 Indiana's probably going to be in a position depending on, 515 00:28:07,508 --> 00:28:11,100 who's in front of them, where they might get us shot at 516 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:15,200 Columbus, they might get a shot at Des Moines, but I would not 517 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,100 be shocked at all at this point and less Indiana, like really 518 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,300 goes on a run. I wouldn't be shocked to see 519 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:22,300 them actually ending up in either. 520 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,800 ER, Albany Orlando because there just aren't going to be a whole 521 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,300 lot of other spots that are geographically favorable for IU 522 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,500 that will pop up and be available. 523 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:35,300 Whenever they're part of the draw is whether they are a lower 524 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:38,300 level 3 seed or a higher level for seed, that's where you're 525 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:41,900 likely to see them. You know, ideally obviously 526 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,300 Indiana would love to be a top four seed, feeding into the 527 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:49,700 Louisville, Regional the south regional because ultimately at 528 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,200 that point, you're almost playing a home game like this 529 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,100 one. Those weird quirks where I you 530 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,900 even though there are natural geographical region is the 531 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,400 Midwest would actually benefit from being in the South and it 532 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000 would almost be a little bit of a drawback for a team, like, 533 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,800 Alabama, having to play a team, like Indiana. 534 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,400 So, close to where Indiana's at, if you'll recall, that's how the 535 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,700 scenario played out in 2002, where Indiana ends up playing in 536 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:19,000 Lexington, against Duke in the sweet 16 and that ended up being 537 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,900 kind of a home game for Indiana because not only did you have a 538 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,400 bunch of Indians Deanna fans there and also because Duke 539 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200 really doesn't have fans. But you also had a bunch of 540 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,900 Kentucky fans who wanted to root against Duke more than they 541 00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:33,300 wanted to root against Indiana. So it all kind of worked out but 542 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:40,100 that's how that process goes you know ultimately Indiana will you 543 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,100 know that's why you want to work your way up the seed board a 544 00:29:42,108 --> 00:29:45,700 little bit because you want to be in a more advantageous 545 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,700 position to get crowds not just for the first and second round. 546 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:52,200 But for the third and fourth rounds to the Sweet 16 Beyond 547 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,700 Let's answer some other questions here. 548 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,100 These are. We've had some good ones that 549 00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:03,200 have come in. Question from Matt Roth. 550 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Appreciator is there any way to identify a priority list for the 551 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 committee in terms of evaluating a team's resume? 552 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,200 Could you walk through a mock thought process of two teams 553 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,900 that have very different resumes but fighting for the same seat. 554 00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,500 IE like st. Mary's in Kansas State. 555 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 I think it's a good idea. Let's let's go ahead and do 556 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,100 that. I gave a little bit of this 557 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:24,300 rationale earlier wrong. On, but I'll give you two teams 558 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,900 that sat right next to each other on my board. 559 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,400 And actually, I made a shift with one of them earlier on. 560 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,600 So let's do actually, St. Marys and Texas Christian. 561 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,100 These are two teams that are are pretty different overall, in 562 00:30:38,108 --> 00:30:40,700 their profile. But they've both got some things 563 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:43,000 that you would have to try to consider in terms of where you 564 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,700 would place them. So st. 565 00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:48,100 Mary's twenty four and five overall twenty three and five 566 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,900 against division. One, those are the only ones 567 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,100 that count. They have one win against a non 568 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,400 division. One opponent Kansas State or 569 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,100 excuse me, TCU 18 and 9 overall. Now one thing to keep in mind is 570 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,500 that conference records really don't matter. 571 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:06,700 They really just look at the overall accomplishments you've 572 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:08,500 had so like you could look at st. 573 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:11,000 Mary's, and say they're 13 and one, which they are in the West 574 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400 Coast Conference. And TCU is only seven and seven 575 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,500 in the Big 12. But the reason that doesn't get 576 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:19,800 looked at is because the Big 12 is much stronger than the West 577 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Coast Conference and it's really about the teams you've beaten or 578 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400 lost too. Why not the quality of the 579 00:31:25,408 --> 00:31:28,400 conference that you're in one is kind of an artifact of the 580 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,700 other, but like, as we've talked about with IU IU, could end up 581 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,200 with like the fifth sixth, seventh best record in the Big 582 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Ten this year, even though they've played one of the 583 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,700 hardest schedules in the entire big tent, like, they'll only 584 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:44,300 play the bottom five teams in the Big Ten once each, whereas, 585 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:46,600 like, Purdue and a couple of other teams will play them much 586 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,000 more. So, when we look at these two 587 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600 teams might try to go as much Apples to Apples, as I can. 588 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,300 So you can see the Conflict in the difference that sometimes 589 00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:59,100 pops up here, st. Mary's, let's take their their 590 00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,600 kind of high level numbers first. 591 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,100 And then we'll delve into the individual games st. 592 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:07,600 Mary's is six and one in Road games and three, and two and 593 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,300 neutral games. So that means that they are 9 594 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:14,200 and 3 in games away from home, TCU, is 2 and 6 in Road games 595 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,100 and for no and neutral games. So, they're six and six in those 596 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,100 such games. So advantage to st. 597 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:22,500 Mary's slightly strength of schedule, wise, overall strength 598 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,800 of schedule, st. Mary's His 97th TCU is 15. 599 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,500 Now, the flip side of that is st. 600 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,600 Mary's, non-conference strength of schedule. 601 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,500 The teams they chose to play is 99th tcu's is 263rd, but overall 602 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:41,100 strength of schedule very much tilts and favor of TCU their 603 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:46,000 overall resume, if you average up kpi strength of record and 604 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,700 the nitty-gritty report which is something that a friend of mine, 605 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,900 Joby Fortson puts out, that is very, very accurate and 606 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,200 calculating the field. St. 607 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,000 Mary's averages out to having the 22nd best resume in college 608 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,700 basketball, TCU averages out to having the 28th best resume in 609 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,200 college basketball. So they're pretty close to each 610 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,700 other. The predictive rankings very 611 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,500 much love st. Mary's St. 612 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:14,500 Mary's is kind of got that perfect profile that the power 613 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,400 numbers struggle with. They have a great defense and a 614 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,900 pretty good offense. And so they are coming out to an 615 00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,600 average of about 14th in the country and they're Hooves TCU 616 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,100 comes out to about twenty fourth. 617 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,800 So pretty large Advantage there to st. 618 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,700 Mary's. So then what we'll do is we look 619 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:35,000 at the individual wins and losses that each team has had 620 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800 over the course of the season and try to Divine, you know, 621 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,900 which one of those is really more impressive. 622 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:45,000 So if you look at quad one wins, we talked about quad one earlier 623 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,200 and how the quads, even though they are more accurate and a 624 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,000 better picture than what we used to have that, there's still some 625 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,800 problems with them. St. 626 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,200 Mary's has 2 quad one wins. They have a home win in overtime 627 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,000 against Gonzaga, and they have a neutral Court win against San 628 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,300 Diego State. They've also got sick Squad two 629 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,400 victories, so they have wins at home against Oral Roberts. 630 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,100 Who will almost certainly make the tournament. 631 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,199 They're going to win the regular season title in the summit 632 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,400 League, North Texas, who's not likely to win the tournament but 633 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,300 is it pretty good team or get into the tournament? 634 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:24,100 I mean they want at Santa Clara at BYU on a new Record against 635 00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,699 Vanderbilt and at San Francisco. That's all of their quad. 636 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:28,100 One and two wins. Right there. 637 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,000 You look at their losses. They've got one quad one loss on 638 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,400 a neutral court, against Houston. 639 00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:37,000 They've got to quad 2 losses against New Mexico and then at 640 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,300 Loyola Marymount, the Loyola Marymount, one kind of hurt and 641 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:43,699 then they've got winds or scuse me losses at home against 642 00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,900 Colorado, State, that's bad and they have a neutral Court loss 643 00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:48,600 against Washington, not great either. 644 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,900 Those are both tier 3 losses. So put that aside let's talk TCU 645 00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:58,200 tcu's got for Quad one wins at Kansas which is a tremendous 646 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,700 win. One of only. 647 00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,500 I think, two teams that's one at Kansas all year in Kansas one of 648 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:04,800 our one seats. Remember they've also won at 649 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,800 Baylor which is another tremendous win, because Baylor 650 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,600 is right on the edge of our 12 line, like, they're right there 651 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,900 in the mix and then they've won at home against Kansas State and 652 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:15,700 a neutral Court win against Iowa. 653 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,800 And then in their quad 2 wins, they've got West, Virginia, 654 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,500 Oklahoma, State Providence, all Those teams are likely to make 655 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:27,100 the field and are those were all home wins for them. 656 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,200 They be Texas Tech at home, who's right? 657 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,400 On the borderline, they beat Utah. 658 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:34,700 Who's not a bad team, in a neutral, Court game, and then 659 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:38,500 they beat Oklahoma at home. So they've got more combined 660 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:42,800 quad, 1 and quad 2 wins and their overall quality of those 661 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,100 wins is significantly better. You're just not going to find 662 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:49,400 two better wins overall than Kansas and Baylor on the road 663 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,000 right now in one a jewel teams profile, you know, their losses, 664 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,400 almost all of their losses are in Quad one. 665 00:35:56,900 --> 00:36:00,500 They've got one stinker of a loss early on in the season to 666 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,300 Northwestern State who's not great but could make the field 667 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,200 as an automatic bid, you know, contender in the Southland. 668 00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,600 So you can see. Like, I mean, if you think in 669 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,200 your head like, who am I going to pick? 670 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,300 Who would, you know, both of those teams are making the 671 00:36:15,308 --> 00:36:16,400 tournament? No problem. 672 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,400 The question is, how do we rate them? 673 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,700 How do we rank them against each other? 674 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,300 I look at this from the tournament, you know committees 675 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:27,000 perspective and I say to myself. Well, st. 676 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Mary's has more wins overall and that does matter the committee. 677 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,900 Like if you win a lot of games and you only lose two, three, 678 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:38,800 four, five games the committee's always preferred those types of 679 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,000 teams. And and that will come into play 680 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,800 down the list like teams like Florida, Atlantic or Charleston, 681 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,400 who win a huge number of games, even if they're not against 682 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,700 great competition. A lot of times will get the nod 683 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:52,800 over. Two teams that have only one, a 684 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,300 few more games. And they've lost the thing about 685 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,900 these two though is that I look at tcu's overall strength to 686 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:03,700 schedule and I look at the fact that they have 12 insanely 687 00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:07,100 difficult games on the road, plus, they want a neutral Court 688 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,400 game against an Iowa team that's safely in the field. 689 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,900 And and the fact that they blew Kansas out one by 23 points in 690 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,200 Lawrence. I think the committee would look 691 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,300 at that and say, you know, both of these teams are relatively 692 00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,800 equal, st. Mary's is got some things. 693 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,200 We like, but the reality is, the TCU has shown an ability to go 694 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,400 on the road and win big against the top teams in the country. 695 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,800 So, I would ever, so slightly put them above st. 696 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,700 Mary's in my rankings, and that's what I did in this. 697 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:37,900 I and again, they're right next to each other. 698 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:42,000 I had TCU 19th on my S curve. I had st. 699 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,800 Mary's 20th. So they ended up being the last 700 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,900 25 seats. So, if you looked at the field, 701 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000 you wouldn't even necessarily know that one was ranked ahead 702 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,100 of the other, but that's how I would rank them. 703 00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:53,800 Going back to Indiana. This is one of the things that 704 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,800 really helps Indiana out is that they want at Xavier. 705 00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,400 They're the only team that's done that. 706 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,600 They want ad Illinois handily so they've demonstrated to the 707 00:38:01,607 --> 00:38:05,700 committee that yes, we can go on the road and win those sorts of 708 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,700 games. That does travel really. 709 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:11,500 Well, when you think about how a team is figured, this is where 710 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:14,300 Yukon is such a difficult team to figure out because they've 711 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:18,400 got three really good neutral Court wins one of them's against 712 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,700 Alabama, who's the top team in the country? 713 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,700 The other two are Iowa state, whose before five seed somewhere 714 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:28,600 in that mix, and then Oregon who's Right On The Fringe of 715 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,600 getting into the field. So you look at that and you're 716 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,700 like, well, they've demonstrated quite a bit. 717 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:36,200 The one difference with Uconn and why I think they got knocked 718 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,600 down below. Indiana is that their record 719 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,900 against teams that are likely to be in the field is they've only 720 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,200 got an eight, and six record against those teams. 721 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,700 And so, I think the committee really weighed that heavily in 722 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,500 looking at where they would Place Yukon and I'm guessing 723 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,400 they have Them as probably a five seed. 724 00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:56,800 So that's how you would look at all of that and I hope that that 725 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,100 Roth appreciator that gives you a sense of what the process is. 726 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,900 It gets much harder as you get further down the field and you 727 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:07,100 know, when you get down to trying to pick who you're at 728 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:10,600 large teams at the very bottom of the list, are going to be 729 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,100 there. You're picking between two very 730 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:15,900 different types of things. I mean, the big one I had today 731 00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:21,200 was Wisconsin versus Charleston because, you know, Look at 732 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,700 Wisconsin, and you say to yourself. 733 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:26,900 Well, that's a team that they've got some really good wins away 734 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:28,200 from home. They want at Marquette. 735 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,300 They want at Iowa, they want, it Penn State, who's kind of On The 736 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:36,500 Fringe, they won, you know, on a neutral court, against USC 737 00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:42,400 there, eight and ten overall. When you look at their, their 738 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,500 record against teams that are going to be in the field, which 739 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:46,800 is pretty good. And they really don't have any 740 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,700 bad losses, but they also don't look very good on paper. 741 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000 They are one of the worst teams in terms of predictive 742 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,500 statistics that I've gotten the field or had in the field. 743 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,300 I don't have them in the field right now, whereas Charleston, 744 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,800 if you average out their resume and their predictive, they're 745 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,700 about the same as Wisconsin. They don't have a whole lot of 746 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:07,200 top level winds. In fact, their best Wayne is 747 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,700 probably Kent State who would not get in as an at large but 748 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,400 we're Charleston. Really I think has some benefit 749 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,300 is that they are 20 25 and 3 against Division 1 teams they're 750 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:24,700 26 and three overall. And I just get the sense, even 751 00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:27,700 though their strength of schedules real bad, and I think 752 00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:30,500 that that, you know, that's the one thing that gives me pause. 753 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,500 I think that number of wins Charleston would likely get a 754 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,800 chance ahead of Wisconsin, because the committee loves to 755 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,100 reward teams that go 25 and 3 27 and 3 somewhere in that range, 756 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,900 over a team from a power conference. 757 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:48,100 That's only three or four games above 500, but I could easily 758 00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,300 see the committee saying no Charleston you didn't play 759 00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:52,600 anybody. You didn't really beat anybody. 760 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,700 We're going to go with the team like Wisconsin that we feel like 761 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,000 could actually do something in the tournament and that is 762 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 really a factor that you'll find with a lot of these. 763 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,200 A lot of it really comes down to the committee looking at two 764 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,500 teams and saying, okay, we understand what this team's got 765 00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:09,800 on paper or doesn't which of these teams do you really think 766 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,800 is going to be able to accomplish something in a 767 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,800 tournament environment and that's where I can't really 768 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,800 decide between these two teams and even you throw a team, like 769 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,600 North Carolina in, you know, one of the reasons, Is why they've 770 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,200 struggled and, and in terms of their bracketing, is they 771 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,400 really? If you look at it, like they've 772 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,900 got one win right now, against a team that would likely be 773 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:34,200 selected as an at-large maybe two, if you want to count 774 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,600 Charleston. That's one of their wins. 775 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,900 They have zero quad one wins and their quad to winds are North 776 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:42,200 Carolina State. Charleston, Ohio State and 777 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,800 Michigan on neutral floors, Wake Forest at home and at Syracuse, 778 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,600 it's like that's not great. So looking at North Carolina 779 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,000 it's like what they played a much tougher schedule. 780 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,700 But they haven't really beaten anybody on it. 781 00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:55,000 These are the things that you end up, weighing as you try to 782 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,300 rank these teams against each other and try to figure out 783 00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,700 who's going to be in the field versus who's not. 784 00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,100 So hopefully that that answers your question some other ones 785 00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,600 here from our friend Lieutenant Vincent Hanna, what are the 786 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,200 updated rules for how soon? You can play a conference Foe 787 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,800 and a repeat opponent from the non-conference schedule? 788 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,500 Are they the same? So it's one of those things 789 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:20,700 where there are rules and then there's exceptions that are to 790 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:24,800 some degree dependent on what's going on within total number of 791 00:42:24,808 --> 00:42:28,300 teams from a conference. So ideally they're not going to 792 00:42:28,308 --> 00:42:31,400 have any rematches of Conference teams until you get to the Sweet 793 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,800 16. They don't want to have the top 794 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,800 three teams from anyone conference in the same region. 795 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,100 And so we talked about that earlier where it's like, we 796 00:42:40,107 --> 00:42:43,800 don't want, you know, the top three teams in the Big 12, we'd 797 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,400 really like to have those all three Different regions and then 798 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,000 you don't want to have any rematches. 799 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,200 If you can before the sweet 16. Sweet 16 is kind of The Sweet 800 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,400 Spot. The one exception here is if you 801 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,300 end up with more than eight teams from a conference, even 802 00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:05,000 then ideally, you've got it so that the earliest you would see, 803 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,400 two teams play each other would be the sweet 16. 804 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,500 So that's essentially the rule. Now what the other thing that 805 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:15,700 complicates this is the play in games Because the playing games 806 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:19,100 for the at large has generally. There's one that feeds into a 807 00:43:19,107 --> 00:43:23,500 611 matchup and there's one that feeds into a 512 matchup. 808 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,900 So sometimes you'll have situations where you have to 809 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,300 place a team as a five-seater is six seed. 810 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,700 And there's a slight possibility, unless you really 811 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,800 mess around with how things are being placed that you could have 812 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,900 a conference matchup, you know, really early, maybe even the 813 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:43,900 second round, you know. So if a team gets in the last 814 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:47,900 team in the The field and there are 12 seed in the play-in game, 815 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,700 you might have a situation where a conference team that they 816 00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,700 might be playing against would be the four seed. 817 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,800 Generally they do a good job of avoiding that that's like the 818 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,700 one situation that's hard to to seed around or try to place 819 00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,800 teams around. But generally speaking they're 820 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,100 going to try to keep teams from the same conference or teams 821 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,600 that are are doing a rematch away from each other until the 822 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,200 sweet 16. That's that rule. 823 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:15,100 Some other questions. This is from Thoughts by will. 824 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:18,600 If Joe lunardi is Big Bird, who is Oscar the Grouch and the 825 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,400 Bracketology universe is probably Jerry. 826 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,300 Palm palm has been doing it forever. 827 00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:26,800 We actually had another question about Jerry Palm from Glen. 828 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,100 Why is Jerry Palm so bad? At this, it's kind of funny 829 00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:33,200 because Jerry was the first one that really kind of popularized. 830 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,600 This in the early era the of the internet. 831 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,600 I mean Joe and Artie's been around doing it for a long time 832 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,000 longer than Palm, I think. But you know, Palm You got to go 833 00:44:43,008 --> 00:44:47,600 back to like late 90s, early 2000s and Jerry Palm was the guy 834 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,400 who did a replication of the RPI that was available for everybody 835 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:55,100 because he used to be the RPI was just an internal metric that 836 00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:57,300 was being controlled by the NCAA. 837 00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,300 They weren't they would publish it occasionally and newspapers I 838 00:45:01,308 --> 00:45:03,500 remember. I've got cutouts of the RPI and 839 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:09,400 newspapers in Bloomington and in Lafayette from like 1986 87 840 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,400 somewhere in that range. But Palm in addition to 841 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,900 Replicating, the RPI would do bracket projections. 842 00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:17,700 And I was like, the only place you could reliably go on the 843 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,900 internet for a long time to see what somebody else was doing in 844 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:24,300 terms of projecting brackets. And then, you know, I think the 845 00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:29,500 thing with Jerry with all due respect is that Jerry has 846 00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:32,200 struggled to evolve and how he thinks about how the bracket is 847 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000 put together. Because the bracket has changed 848 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,500 a lot in terms of how its put together, how the committee 849 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:41,900 approaches things, the RPI formula has changed a bunch over 850 00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:43,800 time. I'm that you know, the net being 851 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,000 introduced to replace the RPI changed. 852 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,900 A lot about how things got done in terms of this process and 853 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:53,600 Jerry, you know, I think he admitted on his website for a 854 00:45:53,607 --> 00:45:55,700 long time. He was, he's biased against 855 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:58,200 Indiana, he carries some other biases. 856 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,300 I think into the way that he picks things and, you know, 857 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:05,500 look, you'll sometimes you'll really know how stuff goes for a 858 00:46:05,508 --> 00:46:09,300 while, and then eventually the process leaves and you don't 859 00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:10,500 follow it. And I think that's to some 860 00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:12,400 degree where Jerry is at and all of that. 861 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,900 But anyway, it's just kind of funny because you this is it's 862 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,400 kind of a silly thing like the whole Bracketology thing to 863 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,600 begin with. It's a little bit silly that we 864 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,700 spent This Much Time on it but it's interesting watching 865 00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:26,900 somebody's been doing it for so long who you think would be an 866 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,000 ace at it. But a lot of that is because the 867 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,600 process has changed underneath his feet over the course of 868 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,600 time. And that's again you know I'm 869 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000 not a top-level, Bracketology style be the first to admit that 870 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,900 there's other people in the eye, you universe that have done 871 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:42,400 better and he bottoms being a great example of that. 872 00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:45,200 That. But, you know, I've tried to 873 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,000 change as much as I can with the times and that's like I place 874 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,600 better than lunardi and palm I think and bracket Matrix in 875 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,700 terms of measuring how these things do against the committee 876 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:57,800 at least the most of the last couple of years. 877 00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:02,300 Some other questions that we wanted to answer Andrew 878 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:06,000 Montgomery with a good one? How much if at all does the 879 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,200 committee factor in injuries and to seating. 880 00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:11,700 And if they do, is it for long absences like Xavier Johnson or 881 00:47:11,707 --> 00:47:14,500 were they also can't Consider Trace Jackson Davis and Jalen 882 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:16,500 Hurd chafee, no playing hurt in December. 883 00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:20,500 This is one that the committee does Factor it in. 884 00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:24,900 But I'm not convinced that it's applied evenly and it's really 885 00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:30,400 hard to get a good measure of how much of an impact. 886 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,800 The factoring of injuries has on the overall seating. 887 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,300 I mean, I've seen teams who the part of the let me back up a 888 00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:41,700 little bit part of the issue is With a team like Indiana. 889 00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,600 When you look at trying to see them. 890 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,800 Ultimately what you're trying to do is figure out okay, what 891 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,100 exactly is this team that we're going to put in the field? 892 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,400 The committee will certainly factor in injuries the other 893 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,000 direction I'm you know famously Cincinnati was the best team in 894 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,600 college basketball in. I want to say it was 2000 and 895 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,300 then they lose their best player right before the tournament and 896 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,000 they end up dropping to a 2 seed. 897 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,600 A lot of times, what will end up happening is the committee will 898 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,000 try to factor in injuries to some degree but ultimately, 899 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,800 they're just trying to figure out how strong is this. 900 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,300 Team going into the NCAA tournament and so for a team 901 00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:25,700 like Indiana on the one hand, you'd think, well, they'll 902 00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:28,600 factor in Xavier Johnson's injury. 903 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,900 But I don't know how much they will. 904 00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:34,300 If they don't have Xavier Johnson back and playing like 20 905 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:36,600 to 25 minutes by the time, the tournament starts because in 906 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,000 their eyes, they'll look at it and say, well, you know, 907 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000 whatever, Effects have been we're not going to oversee this 908 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,500 team simply because they were missing this player who starts 909 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:48,900 for them, because this is who they are now. 910 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000 Now, I do Wonder a little bit, if you know factoring Indiana up 911 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600 that high, if maybe they've slightly discounted some of the 912 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,900 losses that they had without Xavier Johnson. 913 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:02,000 But I think as we get closer to the actual selection, I don't 914 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400 know how much that's going to run into the picture, unless we 915 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,600 see Xavier Johnson back, and we see the team playing at a higher 916 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,400 level, I don't think in the Anna's gonna suddenly jumped up 917 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,400 to like a two line or something like that. 918 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,300 I just think what you're going to see is kind of what you've 919 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:17,700 currently got the other team. That's really. 920 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,000 I think we're looking at with this as Creighton you know 921 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,100 because Creighton lost a bunch of games early when they didn't 922 00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:30,400 have Ryan M hard on the roster due to injuries, but now that 923 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,900 they've got him back, I think you're starting to see, like, 924 00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:36,300 okay, we know what Creighton is essentially and while you know, 925 00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,300 they're not going to give them the benefit of the doubt 926 00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:41,100 necessarily for the now. Ask a loss, the Arizona, State 927 00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,800 lost the BYU loss. I don't think it's going to 928 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,300 matter, much with them. I think they're going to 929 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:48,500 probably end up being in that. 45 range with the idea that 930 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,400 that's essentially where their resume is going to land them. 931 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,900 Anyway, the injury thing is one of those things that's gotten 932 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:56,300 talked about so much and I just don't think it's that big of a 933 00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:59,100 factor for a lot of the selection committee when they're 934 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,700 actually trying to get in there and figure out how strong are 935 00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,400 these teams relative to each other. 936 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,300 So, that's with so many of these criteria. 937 00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:10,100 When you actually line all All of them up. 938 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:13,700 It's almost like it's not just straight away. 939 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,800 Well, there were injuries so they're going to factor that in 940 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,300 or well. They've got a great road record. 941 00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:18,800 So they going to factor that in it. 942 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,200 All be ends up being part of this larger Continuum about how 943 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,900 good the team is, and what they've accomplished. 944 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,700 Brian Hicks asks, does the committee warp expected seeds to 945 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,900 avoid Conference teams playing before the sweet 16 or is that a 946 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,700 myth? So they don't warp them but they 947 00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:42,600 will move teams around. As much as they can, they will 948 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:50,500 generally not drop a team in the first four seeds to, you know, 949 00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:54,000 to accommodate the lack of an intersection there. 950 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,600 You know, before the sweet 16, they'd rather move them to a 951 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,500 different geographical region. Now, what they will do sometimes 952 00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:05,100 is they'll move a team up or down a seed, line to avoid a 953 00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,600 conference rematch before the sweet 16. 954 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,500 But the lower seeded Umm is generally the one that gets 955 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,000 affected and it's almost always just one seed line. 956 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:19,400 So for instance, like if you've got Northwestern as an eight 957 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,500 seed, you know, that's a bit of an issue if they're only place 958 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,800 that they can go, is to go play against the against Purdue as a 959 00:51:27,808 --> 00:51:29,700 one seat. So you might actually see 960 00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:32,000 Northwestern get bumped up a seed. 961 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,700 And someone else swapped down into that eight seed spot to 962 00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:38,200 avoid that second round matchup potentially that's going to be 963 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,000 the big question mark though. And this is where these things 964 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,800 generally. Like, you know, you'll fret 965 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,100 about them now. And then, by the time the 966 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,400 selection committee actually puts the selection together and 967 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,200 puts it out in front of everybody, it ends up not being 968 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,100 as big. The deal, you know, generally 969 00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:57,000 every year if you will, one of the informative things to do the 970 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,000 committee when they release the bracket about an hour or two 971 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,000 later will release their full seedless there, one through 68 972 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,200 seedless and you'll actually be able to see, we're a team, 973 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,900 potentially got placed up or down a seed line. 974 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:13,900 Generally speaking with the four regions there's enough 975 00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:17,300 flexibility that you can move a team from say it's natural 976 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:20,800 geographical region to a less likely or less positive one 977 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:24,100 because Was the benefit there is that you will avoid that sweet 978 00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,500 16 or that pre sweet 16 matchup by doing that. 979 00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:31,700 So that's essentially the way that process works a couple of 980 00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:35,100 other questions. We had another question, is it 981 00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:39,200 better to be top four seed than last three seed from original 982 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,800 placement? Standpoint, I kind of answered 983 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,600 this earlier. So what he's saying is is it 984 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,900 better to be the best for seed as opposed to being the worst 985 00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:48,300 three seen? The answer is no, you always 986 00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:50,000 want to be higher up on the list. 987 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,100 Last three seat is going to Get first crack at best first and 988 00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:58,200 second round matchup spot where as the, you know, the being the 989 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,700 four seed, you're going to get one less option there so that 990 00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:04,600 could be the difference for Indiana if they were the last 991 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,800 three. See, they might get Columbus as 992 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,700 a first and second round spot. Whereas if they're the first for 993 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:13,800 that might be off the board. Now, the flip side of that is 994 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,400 you might have a shot at a more positive. 995 00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:22,500 Sweet 16, a regional location if you're the first four. 996 00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,300 See, but again, as we've talked about earlier, so much of that 997 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:30,300 depends on what's happened in the first second and third 998 00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,000 seeds, in that region and where you would be placed to avoid, 999 00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:39,600 you know, unbalancing the region or you know, it like being in a 1000 00:53:39,607 --> 00:53:41,900 situation where you're one of the top three teams in your 1001 00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:45,500 conference and you can't be placed in one particular region 1002 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:47,700 because there's already somebody from your conference above. 1003 00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:50,200 You, in that same. Same region again. 1004 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,700 Lots of things to keep track of and it's very confusing but 1005 00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:54,500 that's essentially how it all works out. 1006 00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:57,800 Anyway, I think that was all the questions. 1007 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,900 Let me see if there's any other questions that popped up. 1008 00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:07,300 Looks like okay some good questions here from the 1009 00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:09,700 Cornelius. Bumpus the late-season run in 1010 00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:11,100 the Big Ten tournament last year. 1011 00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:14,000 Didn't seem to help all you with regards to how the committee 1012 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,200 seated them. If they received a double by in 1013 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,300 this year's tournament and lost the first game, what did have an 1014 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:24,500 impact on their final seed line? So I a lot of people have said 1015 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:26,900 that they're like, well, the last year, even though I you 1016 00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:30,600 made a run in the in the Big Ten Tournament, it didn't help them 1017 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,500 with how the committee seated them, and I actually that's the 1018 00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:35,200 wrong way. Look at it last year's IU team. 1019 00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,400 I think the more accurate way to look at it last year's, I you 1020 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,600 team wasn't going to make the tournament if they hadn't beaten 1021 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,200 Illinois. And you know, you can be like, 1022 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,800 well how could that be the case? Because everybody, I think and 1023 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,500 talk to themselves. Bracketology is included into 1024 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:53,200 this idea that I, you was going to be in the field and that they 1025 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,700 were in the Big Ten Tournament just to add to that overall 1026 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,900 resume realistically, though, if you go back and look at what 1027 00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:05,900 Indiana did last year, they have a whole lot on their resume, you 1028 00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:09,000 know, their best wins last year going into the tournament away 1029 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,400 from home were a neutral Court win against Notre Dame who you 1030 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,900 know, was an 11 seed in the tournament. 1031 00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:20,000 So you're not talking about a top-level team and they won at 1032 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,600 Maryland who didn't make the tournament soberly prior to the 1033 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,800 Big Ten Tournament. Those were their best wins away 1034 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,800 from home, winning against Michigan. 1035 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,900 Who made the field, winning against Illinois, who made the 1036 00:55:29,908 --> 00:55:34,700 field, suddenly gave them Two wins away from home and allow 1037 00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:36,500 the tournament selection committee to look at them and 1038 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:40,100 say, well, that's actually a team that has the capacity to do 1039 00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,900 something away from Assembly Hall and even though, you know, 1040 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:44,500 Indiana had beaten Purdue at home. 1041 00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:46,500 They'd beaten St. John's at home, they'd beaten 1042 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:49,800 Ohio State at home. There's plenty of teams that win 1043 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,700 a lot of home games. There's a lot of teams that 1044 00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:54,800 that's all they do and they don't get into the NCAA 1045 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,300 tournament because they don't show that they can win away from 1046 00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:59,000 home. So, I actually don't think it 1047 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,600 was a situation where the committee didn't pay attention 1048 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,800 to the Big Ten Tournament. I think they did. 1049 00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:06,200 I just think Indiana. Absolutely needed those games to 1050 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,400 get in in the first place. And, you know, they'd beaten 1051 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,400 Iowa, they might have gotten out of the play in, but 1052 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,300 realistically speaking, they didn't. 1053 00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:17,500 So, as far as this year's team, it's different, this year's 1054 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:19,100 team. We've already seen the committee 1055 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,200 likes this team. They're, you know, they like 1056 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,400 what they've done away from home. 1057 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,600 They like their overall resume. I think for this tears team, if 1058 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,800 they want to tread water, if they want to stay at the four 1059 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,300 line or maybe have a chance to get to that last three. 1060 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,500 Need to win the two games at home against Iowa and Michigan 1061 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,100 because that's a win against the tournament team and a borderline 1062 00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:41,700 tournament team. And then they're going to want 1063 00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:45,400 to, you know, if they do, they don't have to win the two games 1064 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,100 on the road, but it'd be nice if they did, if they could beat 1065 00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:50,700 Michigan State, that's a really nice Road win against the team 1066 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:52,500 that's going to be in the field. And obviously, if you beat 1067 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,800 Purdue on the road. Now, you're one of only two 1068 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,700 teams that's beating Purdue at Mackey Arena. 1069 00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:01,600 That's huge because that, that, that is the type of when that 1070 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,300 gets you solidly on the 03. And maybe as you peeking into 1071 00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:07,800 the, to line depending on what's Happening elsewhere, as far as 1072 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,500 the tournament in the Big Ten Tournament is concerned to go 1073 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:16,400 back to the question that was asked if they get a double by in 1074 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,400 the tournament and lose their first game, it really kind of 1075 00:57:19,408 --> 00:57:21,500 depends on who they lost to if they let you know. 1076 00:57:21,508 --> 00:57:24,700 If there are, let's say, I you ends up as the four seed and 1077 00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:28,400 they play the five seed in the, you know, the the whatever. 1078 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,100 That would be that Thursday, the Big Ten Tournament they lose 1079 00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:34,000 that game, probably. Not going to hurt them because 1080 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,200 in that case, you're likely losing that game to Rutgers or 1081 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,000 an Illinois or you know, somebody that's in that morass 1082 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,400 of teams Iowa right now, it's like northwestern's the second 1083 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,900 seed Indiana's, the third seed and then Maryland and Iowa are 1084 00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:56,700 tied for the fourth seed. Rutgers is tied with Michigan 1085 00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:59,800 like you're in that mix where any team except Michigan. 1086 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,400 I think you could survive losing to and not have it affect your 1087 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,000 seating you could win that game. Obviously you'd like to win that 1088 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,300 game. That could potentially push you 1089 00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:10,300 a little bit higher in the seedless. 1090 00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:12,600 Because now again, you've demonstrated you can win away 1091 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,100 from home on a neutral court against a tournament team again, 1092 00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:20,300 unless it's Michigan. And in that case, it doesn't 1093 00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,600 matter what happens in that next game, because if you lose to 1094 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,100 Purdue because I'm assuming when Purdue is going to be the number 1095 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:27,800 one overall seed, you haven't hurt yourself at all there. 1096 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,700 So that would be how I would look at it is I you can reward 1097 00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:35,700 themselves by winning in the Big Ten tournament and get 1098 00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,400 themselves in a better overall position. 1099 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,000 The only scenario I could see hurting them in terms of seating 1100 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,100 is if they were the five seed and they end up losing to the 12 1101 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,500 are whoever wins that 1213 game because the 1213 is probably 1102 00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:51,700 going to be Nebraska Ohio State you wouldn't want to lose to 1103 00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:53,600 either of those teams on a neutral floor. 1104 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,300 So that's what the thing that Indiana would need to be 1105 00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:58,800 watching out for again, I don't think it's gonna hurt them 1106 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,900 tremendously but it wouldn't help them at all if they were to 1107 00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:06,300 lose a game like that. So anyway, hopefully that 1108 00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:07,900 answers the questions that you've got. 1109 00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:11,900 We will do this again at some point soon and I'd be happy to 1110 00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:13,100 answer. Any other questions that you 1111 00:59:13,107 --> 00:59:14,900 folks have? I you know what? 1112 00:59:14,900 --> 00:59:17,300 I'll probably try to do at some point is put a video together. 1113 00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:20,000 We're actually go through the whole bracket show you how that 1114 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,400 process works and if you have questions off of that, you can 1115 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,400 certainly Feel free to chime in and ask as we go along, we might 1116 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,200 even do that. Why? 1117 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,700 That might be a good thing to do maybe next weekend or something 1118 00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:32,500 like that. So anyway let me know. 1119 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,300 If you've got other questions, sending your tweets to Crimson 1120 00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:39,600 cast, you can also DMS happy to answer any questions that you've 1121 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,600 got. But anyway, this has been our 1122 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,700 latest edition of the bracket. Racket will be back with more 1123 00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:47,800 Bracketology throughout the course of this upcoming week and 1124 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,500 Beyond will start to delve into the bottom of the field figure 1125 00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:55,300 out who's legit down. On there who we need to be 1126 00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:57,500 watching out for were also talk a little bit about some of the 1127 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,900 better at large teams, coming out of some of the mid-level 1128 01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:05,600 conferences, who do we need to be watching out for Drake Oral 1129 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,900 Roberts? Utah Valley, who else will talk 1130 01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:11,700 about all that and more coming up on the bracket racket. 1131 01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:13,200 I'm Gail McLeod. The oh, thanks for joining us. 1132 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,800 Folks will catch you on the flip side. 1133 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,500 So everybody,