1 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,760 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,640 Galen Clavio, Scott Caulfield joining you. 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,960 It is the 3rd of March. I've already podcasted once 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,120 today. Scott has not. 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,360 That you know of. Maybe I have, I mean, I I'm OK. 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Let me just ask, have you podcasted already today? 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,640 No. OK, what do? 9 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:40,840 You put five year olds. I wasn't trying to brag. 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,440 I was just like, well, if if anybody's listening to the feed, 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,880 they're like, damn, I gotta listen to Clavio again. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,040 This is not great so anyway. It is funny. 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,560 I was thinking that like I got you like you bombarded me with 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,040 content, 'cause I went out for a jog this morning doing training 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,400 for a 5K humble brag and I'm like, all right, like the I've 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,800 that that you're solo Pod Friday. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,920 This is good. I mean listen to that like the 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,400 the, the non VIPVIP post, but I got enough content to get me 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,680 through a run and like I'm finishing up and then it's like 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,000 boom, you and Taylor Layman. It's like, God, I'm just getting 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,840 killed by Clavio today. So I I feel. 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,560 You I mean. Fortunately we don't work on 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Commission, so it doesn't matter how many podcasts we do. 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,760 I my my pay rate stays the same. It's all overtime. 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,960 Can't. Even talk to you because I have 26 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:21,680 a little back pay issue we. Just oh, good. 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Yeah. Yeah. 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Let me, let me pass you off to Jared for that, actually. 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,720 So no. Anyway. 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,320 Team at the home network, that's right. 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,280 The the that's why I'm. Not getting paid, that's right. 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Yes, yes, they they've actually sent you checks, but they've 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,080 just sent them to Caulfield. Could be any of the. 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,520 Caulfields. No, no, no, Scott. 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Indiana Just Scott. Indian's like sending a letter 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,480 to Santa Claus, right? Scott? 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,120 Here's a check. Anyway, quick reminder folks, we 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,600 are sponsored by Home Field apparel as is the rest of the 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,240 back home network. They are ramping it up this 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,360 month as they generally do in March. 3rd month mania coming 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,680 right at you starting on Monday, something new every day from the 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,960 4th until the 17th. Go sign up for the newsletter, 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,039 get on their mailing list. Easiest way to get in our 44 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:12,480 mailing list is to go buy something and you can do that 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,520 and use the code Home 23 and get 15% off your first order. 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Some awesome stuff coming. 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The Indiana women wrap up a 15 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,360 and three season and a tie for second place in the Big 10 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,040 Conference with the Win Today reports of their demise 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,080 premature and greatly exaggerated and outside of a 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720 little bit of a scare with Mackenzie Holmes going down with 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,560 what looked like a slight injury, she came back out of the 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,080 locker room looked like she was OK. 76 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,560 The women tie for second place in the Big 10 behind Ohio State 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,040 and if the seating holds to form, they'll take on Iowa once 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,440 again in the semi final. So we wish them the best of luck 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,440 as they move forward into the Big 10 tournament. 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Which actually, believe it or not, Scott starts in the middle 81 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,360 of this upcoming week. We're already in conference 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:12,360 tournament play time, men also in action, and man, that was a 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,640 bizarre game. They traveled to Maryland, a 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,519 team that they I think you could make an argument that the win 85 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:22,240 that they had earlier this year against Maryland at home might 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,720 have been their best game, that they played against a team with 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,440 a pulse so far this year. They had a big lead. 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,440 They kind of let a little bit of the lead get away at the end in 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,360 that one. And then today it looked like 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,880 things were going in entirely the opposite direction. 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,120 They looked listless and lifeless in that first half. 92 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,720 They they allowed a couple of big runs. 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,440 They got down I think by 14 or 16 points at one point early in 94 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,960 the second-half and then IU just could not miss from the field. 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,360 They just they could not miss and I think at one point they 96 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,840 hit eleven shots in a row, they hit 12 to 13. 97 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,440 They finished the game shooting 8382% from the free throw line, 98 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,320 which is shocking. They finished the game shooting 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,040 44% from 3. Maryland, who's a really good 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,480 defensive team by every metric, absolutely could not stop 101 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Indiana on offense in the second-half. 102 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:18,080 Indiana ends up winning the game 83 to 78. 103 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,360 They get a big game out of Mackenzie and Bako who has 24 104 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,280 points on 8 of 15 shooting, 4 for four from the free throw 105 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:30,240 line really coming into his own. Offensively, they get some 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,800 really good play out of Malik Renew, despite the fact that 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,200 someone tried to prevent Malik Renew from being able to 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,880 reproduce in the future with a really poorly placed knee, but 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,520 he was able to come back from that and ended up with 14 points 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,560 and five rebounds. Khalil Ware did not have a great 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,280 shooting game, turned the ball over six times, but grabbed 15 112 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:56,720 rebounds and had nine points. And Xavier Johnson came off the 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,080 bench and really, really played the game that you would hope he 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,600 would play 8 or 13 points and six assists in that contest. 115 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,440 They didn't even need Gabe Cups essentially in the second-half. 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,840 So Indiana with that win moves to 8 and 10 in the conference, 117 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:16,800 16 and 13 overall. Scott, obviously, you know, two 118 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,920 wins in a row. That's great. 119 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,200 First time Indiana's had two wins in a row in the calendar 120 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,280 year of 2024 and first time they've had consecutive wins 121 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,120 since North Alabama and Kennesaw State back at the very end of 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,960 2023. It's obviously way late in terms 123 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,640 of it mattering and you know, for, you know, tournament, you 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,440 know, consideration or whatever. But it it does at least have the 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,160 impact of putting Indiana in the driver's seat to perhaps avoid 126 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,400 the Wednesday games in the Big 10 tournament. 127 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,680 That's at least something it's not, you know, it's it's a very 128 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,240 small something to write home about. 129 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,040 But what were your overall thoughts from the game? 130 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,600 Yeah got to stay away from the got to get that double buy or 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,000 the single buy at least as it's what I'm talking about in the 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,760 broadcast. No I I you hit a lot of the the 133 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,280 main stats I thought were were good. 134 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:08,120 I mean The thing is this team did a lot of things today that 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,480 they just obviously haven't done throughout the year. 136 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,600 The question is always like is this replicable. 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,720 We see it again, but you know again you have Imbacco go 4 from 138 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,000 8 from 3 point line like the the whole team goes 7 for 16 139 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,920 shooting 43% on a pretty you know normal volume of 3 point 140 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,560 shots. We haven't seen that a lot. 141 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Normally they either don't take enough or when they take this 142 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,080 many or 15 or over they're normally shooting sub 30%. 143 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,280 So that was really nice to see from the free throw line shoot 144 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,240 82%. That's been a real bugaboo all 145 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,960 season. They do that. 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,080 The other thing too that I liked is just when you look at the 147 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,440 game log, you know with with 949 to go in the second-half, you 148 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,360 know, Indiana had already made that run. 149 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,040 They were down like you said, I think you know, 15 or 16 at one 150 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,840 point they make this run to get back. 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,080 It's 6460 Maryland ahead and then Maryland just stays at 64 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,840 points like just a great defensive stand until the four 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,760 minute mark in the second-half where Indiana's up 72 to 64. 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,680 We haven't seen that either. You know, Indiana has gotten 155 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,880 down in a bunch of games. They've been able to come back 156 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,600 in some of those, but a lot of times they get to kind of that 157 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,880 range, that 6460 range, and it's like, all right now they kind of 158 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,160 put her out or you know, you know, the other team gets a 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 couple of big threes and suddenly it's a 12 point game 160 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,640 again. Either this was unique in that 161 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,440 they they got down, which isn't good, but they fought back and 162 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,640 then once they kind of got to that precipice, like, all right, 163 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,840 now we can get over the hump. Not only they get over the hump, 164 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,640 they held Maryland scoreless for 4 1/2 minutes during that kind 165 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,039 of crucial point. So that was also a really good 166 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,480 thing to see. This is a Maryland team that is 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,360 one of the worst offenses in the Big 10. 168 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,200 So it's not saying much, but you still did it and you did it on 169 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,640 the road and you know, would have loved to not gotten down by 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 that much. But you know at this point I I 171 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,000 hate to be in, you know, not moral victory, but victory. 172 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Victories are good. But it is like it's it's a win 173 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,560 and you do the things you need to do to win. 174 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,320 It's interesting. These are two fundamentally 175 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,640 flawed teams and you've seen that throughout the course of 176 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,560 the season. I mean, Indiana has really 177 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:11,280 struggled to put together games and Maryland has struggled to 178 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,880 finish games. I talked about this on the 179 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,560 Preview Podcast. Like, Maryland is one of the 180 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:18,840 unluckiest teams in Ken Palm. And what that means is like, 181 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,640 their play statistically has not matched the amount of wins that 182 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,200 they've had. They've they've lost games that 183 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,120 they probably shouldn't. And what I was, I guess, most 184 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,360 impressed by with Indiana was they had two long stretches 185 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,880 where they just stopped scoring. You know, they Indiana. 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,040 It was 20 to 19 Indiana, excuse me, 2017 Indiana at about the 10 187 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,440 minute mark of the first half and they didn't score again 188 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,640 until the five O 8 mark of the first half. 189 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Then again at one point it was 33 or 3833 Maryland with 1:49 190 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,440 left in the first half and Indiana didn't score again until 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,400 the eighteen O 4 mark of the second-half. 192 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,720 This is exactly what we saw in the Penn State game, where 193 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Indiana goes on these long lulls offensively where they just 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,000 can't get anything going. And we've talked about this 195 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 scenario with IU where they'll play well and then they'll just 196 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,000 have these stretches where nothing goes in the bucket for 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,960 them and that gives the other team the margin of victory. 198 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,840 And that looked like what this game was going to be. 199 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,760 But then Maryland had a worse 1. Maryland like that, That three 200 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,320 by Jamie Kaiser with 949 left in the second made it 6460. 201 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,480 That was what you were talking about. 202 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,480 Maryland didn't score again until the 354 mark of the 203 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,120 second-half. And when you look at what 204 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Indiana was able to do, and especially the way that they 205 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,440 kind of put things together offensively, it did. 206 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:45,160 If you look at what Indiana has done over the course of really 207 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,800 since the Purdue game, their defense has been the problem. 208 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,000 Their offense has actually gotten progressively better. 209 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,320 It was about the same between the Northwestern and Nebraska 210 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,760 games. But in the last two games in 211 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,560 particular, they scored adjusted 100 and excuse me, this is this 212 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,960 is no this is adjusted 124.6 points per 100 possessions 213 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,280 against Wisconsin. And then their offensive rating 214 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,320 today was 130.3 adjusted, which is really good. 215 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:13,720 And it's it's interesting because they're getting 216 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,120 contributions from different people. 217 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,240 Obviously in the Wisconsin game, Khalil Ware was unstoppable. 218 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,520 He did not have it today. But Mackenzie and Bacco being 219 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,480 able to step in, hit shots from outside drive, do the kinds of 220 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,440 things that that he has been able to do. 221 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,520 It really allowed Indiana a flexibility on offense that we 222 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,640 just haven't seen out of them. They this is 2 games in a row 223 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,440 now where they've had an effective field goal percentage 224 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:44,160 over 62 percent, 62.7 today, 68.1 yesterday and they've hit 225 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,160 threes. They've been really good. 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,280 We know from 2 point land because they've been taking some 227 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,080 high percentage shots and their defense has been just good 228 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,280 enough that other teams haven't been able to keep up with them. 229 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:58,680 That is not the Indiana team that we have seen over the 230 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:00,560 course of most of the Big 10 season. 231 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,280 It's just a shame that it's come together this late because 232 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 you're like, well, this vintage of Indiana team could have at 233 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,280 least competed for, you know the the edge of the bubble if 234 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,360 they've been able to pick up one or two more wins. 235 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Well, and that's the thing that's going to get lost with 236 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,400 this season. But like we we need to hammer 237 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,440 home here is you know it it it. Xavier Johnson helped today. 238 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,720 He played a good game. He definitely helps the offense. 239 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,280 But just just him alone it's like it I don't know how to say 240 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,080 this about like it's not knock on him it's just like just 241 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,400 because he's injured doesn't mean it all has to fall apart 242 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,200 the way that it did and that's that's a struggle with this this 243 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,600 year as you look at this game it's like the pieces are there 244 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,240 for this to be a really good team. 245 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,600 You know this is I remember seeing it against Harvard where 246 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,400 it was like oh man like this is this looks really good. 247 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,360 You know the 1st 5 minutes against Auburn we're like damn 248 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,520 this team like put together it like and what's weird is when 249 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,400 they're playing well you're like this team actually has put 250 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,560 together really well but then they don't play well and then we 251 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:58,640 start looking at roster construction and management. 252 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,400 It's like it it does show how wins kind of take all this way 253 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,200 but it's this is the part that is going to get lost with this 254 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,880 season is we're just going to look at it in you know 1020 255 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,480 years now think it's just a garbage season and you know the 256 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 in the mix it's like no this this team had the talent and it 257 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,160 really was honestly put together when playing right. 258 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,480 It actually does make a lot of sense when the pieces are 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,320 working this way. It it just hasn't been working 260 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,120 this way for most of the time. And that's that's the 261 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,440 frustrating part and see. Even this game, when you fall 262 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,120 behind by that many points, I mean they this team looked 263 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 listless in the first half. Their defensive effort was 264 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,680 terrible. They were, they were getting 265 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,360 beat all over the floor. Maryland look like they were in 266 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,200 rhythm, you know? It's so it's one of those where 267 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,560 you you have to praise Indiana for being able to put it 268 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:51,280 together, come back in that second-half, put on that type of 269 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,640 offensive display play good enough defense. 270 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,200 I mean you know Maryland's not amazing offensively from an 271 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,080 efficiency perspective they've really struggled but but still 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 they they they look perfectly fine in the first half 273 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 offensively and Indiana made them look really bad in the 274 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,040 second-half. So how do you reconcile, and I 275 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,120 kind of feel this way about the Wisconsin game to some degree as 276 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,440 well, where it's like, well here you have this Indiana team that 277 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,760 in spurts looks really good and and has score. 278 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 You know they can if if everything is firing they can. 279 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Mackenzie and Bako can hit shots. 280 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Khalil Ware is hard to to guard around the basket and he cleans 281 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,360 up so much on the glass and and Malik Renew obviously has so 282 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,320 much skill. But then they just go through 283 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,640 these swoons where they do not have a clue or look like they 284 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,640 don't have a clue about what they're supposed to be doing. 285 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,560 And it's not just as simple as oh Xavier Johnson's back in the 286 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,720 lineup because Xavier Johnson was in for most of that first 287 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,680 half, including a lot of the two runs that we saw where they 288 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,480 didn't play well. I am mystified by what makes 289 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,400 this team tick and and why they operate the way that they do. 290 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,520 It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense on its face. 291 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,800 And that's to me the most frustrating part of the season 292 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,400 is that in spurts, we've seen Indiana be, you know, about as 293 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,560 good as any team in the conference except Purdue. 294 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,840 And in spurts, we've seen them look as bad as any team in the 295 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,160 conference, including Michigan and Maryland. 296 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,400 And I think this is where I forgot where I heard this. 297 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,440 But it's like, you know what? What makes really good athletes 298 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,800 isn't the ability to have that high level talent. 299 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,960 It's the ability to be consistent at a very above 300 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,160 average level. But you know, like it's not 301 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,480 just, it's not being able to do amazing stuff. 302 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,960 It's like can you do really, really good stuff on a regular 303 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,960 basis? And I think that's that's what 304 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,360 this team has struggled with. And this you know it. 305 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,520 It is the kind of the hallmark of an average or a sub average 306 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,440 team as a team that just can't put it together. 307 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Whether it be in a season, whether it be in a stretch of 308 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,680 games, whether it be in a game itself. 309 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,440 And like that is that isn't the end the hallmark of this team. 310 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,320 It's like I we've been trying to figure it out all year. 311 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,560 I think the answer is we're never going to quite figure out 312 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,600 what's not always working. But you you are 100% right. 313 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,240 It's like this, this game, while a win isn't even the Wisconsin 314 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,160 game, the last two wins, like you wouldn't say those are just 315 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,200 like that was a great feel good win. 316 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Like we, I feel like everything is right, 'cause even in that 317 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,960 win there were moments of listlessness and issues and 318 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,640 you're down by 15 and I'm not trying to knock a win, but I do 319 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,840 think this is just the hallmark of kind of a a team that is just 320 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,520 it. It has a real hard time get 321 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,840 getting going and like I would ask any fans like. 322 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,440 How? Comfortable. 323 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Do you feel now that you're just like you'd be willing to put 324 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,640 down 500 bucks on the money line that Indiana's gonna beat 325 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Minnesota next? You know, on Wednesday, 'cause 326 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,280 it's like, I'm I, I we we won two in a row. 327 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,520 I'm still not sure where we are. I'm still not sure I understand 328 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,920 where this team is AT. And if if I'm like comfortable 329 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,040 being like I think they can win another game on the road, it's. 330 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Funny because I I've watched a lot of Minnesota basketball 331 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,400 because I I have nothing to do with my life, I guess. 332 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,120 But they they remind me a lot of this Indiana team in that, like, 333 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,880 I don't know if anybody watched that Minnesota Penn State game 334 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,640 yesterday, but you know, Penn State went on a 23 to four run 335 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,520 in the first half and then followed it with an 11 one run. 336 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:12,400 Then at one point Penn State was up 41 to 18 on Minnesota and 337 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,920 Minnesota won 75 to 70 because they followed up with a 17 to 338 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,720 three run and then a ten O run. It's so I don't know what, like 339 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,160 I would not be shocked if this Indiana team against Minnesota, 340 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,080 if both teams were up 20 independently at some point in 341 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,720 the game. I have no clue who will end up 342 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,480 winning the game. But yeah, when? 343 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,080 You look at that Minnesota, Penn State game in in Kenpalm, it's 344 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,080 like normally like the the big run things, like the runs things 345 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,960 just basically the whole game. It's like just run after run 346 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,760 after run. Pinewood Derby. 347 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,920 Track. I mean, it's wild. 348 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,840 No, I mean it's so look, that's the thing I mean with this 349 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Indiana team right now. I mean look first of all the the 350 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320 team deserves credit. The, the coaching staff and Mike 351 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,640 Woodson deserve credit. This was not an easy last week. 352 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,440 There were a lot of noise around Woodson and and look I I will, I 353 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,480 will. I want to put that in 354 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,000 perspective. Winning two games in a row and 355 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,760 and beating Wisconsin I think is always a big, big step and 356 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,840 winning on the road, especially in the game where you were a 357 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,080 nine point underdog and that wasn't just Vegas, that was Ken 358 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Palm, that was Torvick. I mean everybody had Indiana 359 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240 losing this game because you know Maryland just looked at 360 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:26,520 that good efficiency wise to come out and play for the 40 361 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,440 minutes how they did. You know you can you can point 362 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,400 to the individual runs and say well that wasn't good or that 363 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,080 that didn't work play wise. But at the end of the day the 40 364 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,720 minutes Indiana was, was the better team. 365 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,960 They deserve a lot of credit for picking themselves up and not 366 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,320 allowing themselves to be in a position where they were overly 367 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,960 affected by the noise. But the flip side is at the end 368 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,560 of it all, as impressive as that win was and as impressive as as 369 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,520 picking yourself up off the carpet has been, today they beat 370 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,520 a Maryland team who is 13th in the conference out of 14 teams 371 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,760 and is 500 now on the season and is going nowhere. 372 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,960 And the Wisconsin game that they won, that's a Wisconsin team 373 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,680 that has now lost seven of their last nine games, including an 8 374 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,200 point loss at home earlier this week to Illinois. 375 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,560 So it's it's kind of feels like the bearest of expectations that 376 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,320 Indiana would have won these two games given the condition of the 377 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,200 teams that they beat. But then you have to flip it 378 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,920 over and say, well, given the condition of Indiana, you do 379 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,640 need to give them some credit for the fact that they were able 380 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,200 to win that game or both games and they had the the fortitude 381 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,360 to figure out a way in both contests to put together a 382 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,320 winning effort. It's it's just frustrating 383 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,160 because it again, as you said, the talent that's on the roster 384 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,000 shouldn't require it to be a surprise when Indiana ends up 385 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,680 being the better team over 40 minutes against the team that's 386 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,520 500 on the season. So listening to, you know, like 387 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,640 I said, I listened to your pregame this morning, you know, 388 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,280 and you said two things that I want to talk about now and kind 389 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,120 of just a larger macro sense, I think are fair points before the 390 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:13,240 game and still still hold true. Now, you know, you said that a 391 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,600 lot. You know there's a lot of noise 392 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,760 about where the program should go and that people are starting 393 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,000 to kind of get defensive or just solidified in their positions. 394 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,680 I think that's true. And you also know a lot of fans 395 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,480 and probably put myself in this category, you know, going into 396 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,280 this game and just kind of like we're kind of like I'm just 397 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,000 ready for this season to be over. 398 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 It's like it's not been a good year ready for it to be over. 399 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,960 I think that's also true. You know, I, I think I'm with 400 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,400 you. You have to give Pete, you know, 401 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,640 credit for the win. That's all good. 402 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,960 I I think the problem is where you're at with this program is 403 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,160 that you have a good portion of the fan base who are kind of are 404 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,120 that point of like we're checked out on the year or they've 405 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,120 already made-up their mind on what should be done. 406 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,480 And we've seen this and I'm I'm not I'm not saying you advocate 407 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,120 one way or the other. I'm just saying that once people 408 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:01,000 have gotten to that point it's hard to get them back. 409 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,960 And I think that's the issue that we have and and a win 410 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,440 against Maryland just isn't going to be like all right I'm 411 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,760 I'm all I'm all back in like all those bad feelings I have for 412 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,880 two months like it's over. And you know again I believe me 413 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,400 I'm not advocating change or anything but like when you you 414 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,520 look at like Mike Davis once people got to that point like he 415 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,120 he was never able to win them back. 416 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,880 You could say that you know Crean had it after the the 417 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Syracuse loss or maybe that next year he he he won a Big Ten 418 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,800 title. Couldn't kind of get over that. 419 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,320 You know Archie I I would look at that that 12 of 13 game 420 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,280 losing streak was kind of where he lost people never got people 421 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,480 back. And I was thinking about this 422 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,840 listening to your pod that you know if you're if you're Woodson 423 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,480 and Woodson's back here next year. 424 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840 You know to me it's like the expectations are like you got to 425 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,200 it's it's wild but it's like you got to win the Big 10 and maybe 426 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,480 make the Elite 8. Like you have to do something 427 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,640 above and beyond expectations to kind of get people off of that 428 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,880 ledge once they've already made-up their mind. 429 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,920 And I do. I I'm just it's a bar I think 430 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,400 that's where a lot of people are and you know so you know wall 431 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,480 walls like hey two wins is great. 432 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,440 It doesn't For those people who are there it's not going to be a 433 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,440 you know two wins against kind of middle but pack big 10 teams 434 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,040 isn't enough to do that and it's just it's a bummer that we're at 435 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,560 that spot but it that is reality you're you're. 436 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,880 I think you are you're you're being overly gracious with many 437 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,600 with Maryland. If you're calling them a middle 438 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,240 of the pack Big 10 team, they're terrible. 439 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,360 But your point is taken. It is interesting though there 440 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,200 is. Might have like 2 Terrapin fans 441 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,080 in here, I don't know. You never know. 442 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Just trying to grow the Reach Crimson cast there is. 443 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,240 A non zero. In fact, more than a non zero 444 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,000 chance. Like there is a decent chance 445 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,360 Indiana could end up as the sixth seed in the Big 10 446 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,520 tournament. Right now because they are 8 and 447 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,000 10 in the conference, they are right behind Minnesota who's 448 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 9:00 and 9:00. If they beat Minnesota, they 449 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,680 will have the tiebreaker on Minnesota in all categories 450 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,920 because they will have beaten them twice their last games 451 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,840 against Michigan State. Even if Michigan State beats 452 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Northwestern, Indiana's last game would be against Michigan 453 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,120 State and well, that would be the tiebreaker in that scenario. 454 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,360 And the other team that's in the mix there is Iowa, who Indiana's 455 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:11,200 already beaten and Iowa has to host Illinois later on this 456 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,680 upcoming week. I mean, so everything you just 457 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,240 said is correct. The two things I'll say is a 458 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,480 it's going to be hard I think for the people who are 459 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,880 definitively in the there needs to be a change camp to argue 460 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,800 that this season was a disaster. If Indiana actually finishes 6th 461 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,920 in the conference and and 2nd and this is I think the larger 462 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,640 point all Indiana fans really want is a competitive basketball 463 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,000 program. They and that's you know the yes 464 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480 they want wins. Yes, you can say, well, Indiana 465 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 fans are unrealistic. The the reason why there's been 466 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,880 so much angst over this season, and particularly over what's 467 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,440 happened in January and February, is not the losses as 468 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,680 much as it is how bad Indiana has looked and how bad their 469 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,320 effort has looked in a lot of the games. 470 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,760 And what we've seen in both of these last two games, the 471 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,280 Wisconsin game and and obviously this Maryland game, is an 472 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Indiana team that for enough of the time, cared enough and put 473 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,680 enough effort in that they were able to come up with victories. 474 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,120 That goes a long way towards calming people down. 475 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:26,240 Now obviously there's two games left and if Indiana comes out in 476 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,040 the first half or or can't comes out in either of the games like 477 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,040 they came out in the first half against Maryland, that goodwill 478 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,440 is going to go away real quick. But my argument I guess would be 479 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,720 at this point that. If. 480 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,920 What you needed to see as an IU fan was the players caring and 481 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,160 the coaching staff looking like they knew what they were doing 482 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,640 well. You've gotten some of that in 483 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,400 these last two games. You got to build on it. 484 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760 And I think if you follow up these two wins with two losses, 485 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,160 well, it all goes back to some degree to where it was before 486 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,520 this last week started. But it is nice to see that with 487 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,840 their backs against the wall, both metaphorically and, and to 488 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,960 some degree, you know, from an emotional perspective, the team 489 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,680 was able to figure out a way and the coaching staff was able to 490 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,840 figure out a way to put it together both on the road and at 491 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,160 home against the team that they've struggled with now for a 492 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,440 couple of decades. So that's you know. 493 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Agreed. I hear all that and I'm I'm I'm 494 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720 just kind of speak. I'm not I'm not saying I'm in 495 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,320 this position. I'm not trying to defend it all 496 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,800 I'm saying I hear all that and it all I'm saying is that when 497 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,120 you you know, the cream thing is the interesting example here 498 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:38,320 because I think people lost that faith in that those three-year 499 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,560 window. He came back and won a Big Ten 500 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,520 title and was fired the next year. 501 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,680 You know that even a Big Ten title wasn't enough, you know, 502 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,960 enough success to get people off of that ledge with cream. 503 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,400 So that's my only thing is that, you know, the last couple of 504 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,040 weeks have been really pretty negative and toxic. 505 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,520 And it it's it's reminiscent of all of those periods in the past 506 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,200 where it felt like a good majority of the fan base kind of 507 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280 checked out. Was like I've made-up my mind 508 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,760 and all I'm saying is like I I hear you, you're right. 509 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,760 Like you've got to let it play out. 510 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,840 They could win four more. They could win two games And you 511 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,840 know, I I still think making the NIT and making around the NIT 512 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,520 would be a really nice way to finish off this season and and 513 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,160 get some momentum to next year. But you know again it's like I'm 514 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,800 just merely pointing out that you know if you have friends who 515 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,640 are on that you know other side of it. 516 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,280 You know two wins is not going to get them back on the hump. 517 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,480 It's going to take something monumentally good to make up for 518 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,520 something that is kind of a a monumentally bad season And that 519 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,440 that's my only point is just how like how bad the the state is 520 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,400 that that it got in in the last couple of weeks. 521 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,880 I totally. Agree, and so much goodwill was 522 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,320 burned this year. There's still time to get some 523 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920 of it back. The last two games have helped a 524 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,400 little bit, but there's a long way to go to to get people who 525 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,640 have decided that this is the wrong direction on things. 526 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,120 And that's not even getting into offseason stuff, 'cause I think 527 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,840 that's a different podcast that we can talk about later. 528 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,240 But. It's like with the, you know, 529 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,280 the part of what this bat was bad with this season, like you 530 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,000 get a little success and it's like the rug gets pulled out. 531 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,920 So it's like, this is a great moment in a very micro sense, 532 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,120 like, all right, go in the next two games, like build on this 533 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,080 and don't pull the rug out. Like what would be worse is 534 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,440 another rug pull in a micro where it's like, hey, we're 535 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,640 feeling good, Two wins and you go out and you you piss the bed 536 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,680 in two more games. Like go in two more and then 537 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,960 look like you're you're competent and caring in the Big 538 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,640 10 tournament. I think that that alone would go 539 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,800 a long way to be like, hey, we made, you know, season one's 540 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840 great, but like we finished, we figured out some right things 541 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520 and we feel confident we can continue figuring that in the 542 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,160 next season. Like I know that would give me 543 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,800 the confidence going into next year. 544 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Indiana in action again On Wednesday of this upcoming week, 545 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,720 they'll be at Minnesota. You know we needed another night 546 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,440 game on the road to to, you know, marinate on certainly, but 547 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,480 only two games left in the regular season for Indiana. 548 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,600 They get Minnesota at home. They get Michigan State on the 549 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320 road. They are projected to lose both 550 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,800 games right now on Ken Palm, but they were projected to lose the 551 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,920 last two games on Ken Palm, so who the heck knows? 552 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,720 Anyway, Scott, any final thoughts before we wrap? 553 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Any thoughts before we wrap up here? 554 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840 No, no, no. Let's like I just said, let's 555 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,080 finish off strong, man. Like like keep it going. 556 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,000 Like there's there's no reason this team can't win the next two 557 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,600 games. Like Michigan State is also not 558 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,080 good. Like their record is pretty bad. 559 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Like metrically they're they're way better than us. 560 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,200 But their record is not great. It's going to be wild. 561 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600 We have a we we could win our next two and have a better Big 562 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,240 10 record than them and not make the term. 563 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,360 It all makes sense but it's just like it's a weird spot that 564 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,560 we're in. But you know, there's there's no 565 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,960 reason you can't win the next two. 566 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,640 And again that that is, I think every fans most frustrating part 567 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360 is looking at this win is like, hey, this has been there all 568 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,520 year, like there's a lot of really good pieces there. 569 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,480 Well, we'll see. What happens? 570 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,640 And we will of course be also watching to see what happens 571 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600 with the women's team as they're waiting on their final 572 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,000 assignment for Minneapolis. They're the three seed and we'll 573 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,880 probably play either Penn State or Maryland in the quarter final 574 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,080 round, depending on what happens with the remaining games. 575 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,520 Anyway, we'll go and wrap up here. 576 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,440 We will be back with the VIP episode. 577 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400 In fact, it may be part of the e-mail that you're reading to 578 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,680 get this episode. 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We'll have more with Scott and 595 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Galen too later on, but we will go ahead and sign off for now. 596 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,200 We'll give you guys the present of a short podcast for your 597 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280 commute or if you're out mowing the lawn because it's beautiful 598 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,880 outside here in Southern Indiana. 599 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,560 Anyway, for Scott, I'm Galen. This is Crimson Cast. 600 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160 We'll catch you folks. On the flip side, bring back the 601 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,120 bison. So everybody.