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It's Friday night. 

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The 21st of October, as we get 
ready for this weekend's game 

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between. 
The Indiana Hoosiers football 

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team and the Rutgers Scarlet 
Knights Indiana three and four 

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on the season. 
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take on a Rutgers team that 
hasn't been a whole lot better 

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on the season that Indiana has. 
This is really not a sexy 

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but it's an interesting one and 
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maybe fascinating some too 
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a curiosity as Indiana. 
Desperately desperately needs a 

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win, they have lost four games 
in a row after winning their 

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first three and they're kind of 
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know, some really bad things 
happen in down the stretch here.

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If they can't figure out a way 
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So we talked about that one 
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All right, let's talk about 
Indiana versus Rutgers. 

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The Scarlet. 
Knights coming into this game 

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with a 3 and 3 record on the 
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Actually their season is largely
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Ten victory that Indiana's got 
against Illinois, Rucker so far 

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on the season, for those who 
haven't been keeping up, they 

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beat Boston College by one to 
start off the season, they beat 

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Wagner by a lot of points, 59 
points to be exact, and they 

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barely beat Temple at Temple, 
and that was kind of the sign 

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that things may be, were not, 
all right, in Schiano land, and 

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they followed that up with some 
really dismal offensive 

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performances. 
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that Temple game, they've scored
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they've lost to Iowa, Ohio, 
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Nebraska game in particular, was
that was a tough one to watch as

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it look, you know, running a 
Rutgers jumped out to a lead and

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Nebraska who we've seen, who's 
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Somehow found a way to come back
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So you know this Rutgers team 
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common. 
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Indiana Rutgers averaging 22 
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that's almost entirely because 
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They're giving up 22 points per 
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Meanwhile Indiana averaging 25 
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giving up 31 and a half points 
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And you know while you certainly
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well their offense showed 
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they know the 33 points they 
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also gave up 38 points on 
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obviously. 
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like does Indiana have what it 
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perspective to score enough 
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it, you know put themselves in a
good position to win, can they 

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simply outscore this Rutgers 
team but then the flip side is 

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also can I use defense who has 
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season figure out a way to put 
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chance to win. 
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think the as much as the offense
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team, the defense has I 
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certainly that showed last week 
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incapable of stopping Maryland 
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should have been able to stop. 
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Rutgers team overall. 
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PFF College grades, they've 
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inopportune times. 
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for this team was there. 
Passing game, I mean, they're 

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passing game graded Out Among 
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season and it wasted, what was 
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game from Rutgers where they 
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of their skulls. 
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They are they defended the run 
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Now, Nebraska helped on that 
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they're, they're not very good 
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enough. 
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Rutgers, they find themselves in
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don't have a quarterback at the 
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the numbers that they've racked 
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Simon the sophomore quarterback 
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touchdowns six interceptions. 71
completions out of a hundred and

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twenty three attempts, only 
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far on the season. 
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thought mail, maybe he would be 
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this year. 
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Of a disappointment and he is 
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He's only played in two games 
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running the ball Rutgers that 
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running back as a freshman 
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see a whole lot of fifths and in
college football and then you've

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got a pair of sophomores that 
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rushing yardage Kyle manang guy 
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is generally a bad sign if 
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freshman and Sophomores to carry
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of things, you're probably going
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Now their offensive line is also
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year but overall I mean they 
when they run the ball, they run

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the ball, okay? 
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has not been particularly good. 
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in terms of the overall numbers,
this is where this game gets 

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difficult to judge because 
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very good either, in a lot of 
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Mirrors what we see from Rutgers
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good performances from running 
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But when you grade everything 
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grayed out because the offensive
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Its job, particularly 
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difference between these two 
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that Indiana's passing game hard
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For some of you folks to 
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better than Rutgers passing game
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grave It follows in the overall 
statistics and that's not to say

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that Indiana is passing game has
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Indiana's passing game. 
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the flipside, Rutgers defense. 
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State game out of the equation, 
which I think is fair, I think 

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we're going to want to do that 
with Indiana's when they play 

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Ohio State later overall there. 
I think they're running game has

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been pretty good or is he's me 
their defensive games and Pretty

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good overall. 
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Boston College. 
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played very well against 
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obviously against the other two 
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conference. 
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The question you have to ask 
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as Indiana, like, Iowa, and 
Ohio, State, or is Indiana more 

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like Nebraska. 
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say that Indiana is a bit more, 
not like Nebraska, especially 

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since Indiana lost to Nebraska 
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points while doing so this 
Hoosiers team coming into the 

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season, has just excuse me. 
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the course of this season has 
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whole lot of offensively. 
And it's actually I'd say gotten

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slightly worse over the last two
weeks than it had been even in 

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the first part of the season 
when Indiana was winning and 

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scoring points. 
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opposition they were playing 
wasn't necessarily great or I 

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mean it's hard to take that 
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Seriously, at this point, how 
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But I think that there's there's
enough here from a statistical 

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perspective. 
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you say, okay, if they can keep 
Rutgers out of the offensive 

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Back Field, that they've 
probably got a pretty good shot 

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in this game, simply, because 
we've seen so little out of the 

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Rutgers offense, that it's hard 
to Envision the Rutgers offense,

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suddenly putting it together and
figuring out how to score a 

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And, you know, that's going to 
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In my mind is like, how many 
points does Rutgers score, does 

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Indiana take advantage of, you 
know, what is not a terribly 

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impressive passing game? 
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and essentially dare Rutgers to 
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You know, is that the ticket 
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if that's the case and they're 
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they've got a really good chance
of Victory because Rutgers just 

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has not shown a propensity for 
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through the air and you know, 
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think it has deteriorated a bit 
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weeks should be able to be up to
the challenge of keeping Rutgers

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run offense in check at least 
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question. 
Of course, we talked about this 

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going into the, the Maryland 
game is what do the the 

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turnovers look like for this 
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So far on the season, Rutgers 
has a turnover margin of exactly

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zero. 
They have Given up 10 and they 

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have taken away 10 and so you're
looking at it from that 

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perspective, this is not a 
Rutgers team that has thrived in

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the turnover game and you know, 
so then you look at Indiana and 

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you're like okay is this an 
Indiana team that might be able 

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to take advantage of things 
because Indiana while it looked 

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bad. 
Certainly in the game against 

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Maryland at the end of the day I
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season and the -3 came entirely 
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They were even going into that 
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So If Indiana is able to keep it
copacetic, in terms of the 

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turnover situation, they're not 
given the ball to Rutgers, 

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they're not given the Rutgers 
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Opportune field position they 
should, I think be okay in this 

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contest at least one would hope 
because, you know, kind of Basil

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a cake. 
If you go read, bite-sized bison

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by Taylor Layman. 
He's been pressured. 

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So heavily this season, you 
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pressured heavily, he has been 
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that's been so rare. 
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game left on the schedule that 
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Indiana's offensive line should 
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if they're able to jump on 
Rutgers early. 

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Move the ball through the air 
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unnecessarily. 
They should have enough cushion 

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to be able to do all of that 
simply because I don't know that

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Rutgers is necessarily going to 
be up to the task of 

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penetrating. 
The backfield, consistently 

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making Connor basal-like 
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basis. 
And if he's got that extra 

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second or two that he didn't 
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have against Michigan, didn't 
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that might give him enough 
space, to be able to find Camp 

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camper or any of his other 
receivers. 

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At the ball down, the field, 
effectively. 

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And I think if Indiana is able 
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24 points in this game, I have a
real hard time seeing a 

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situation where Rutgers is going
to be able to score. 25 points 

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to beat Indiana and less Indiana
beats themselves, either through

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shoddy line play or turning the 
ball over or some combination 

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there in that's about as as 
tepid case for optimism, as I 

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can come up with, but it's see 
how I feel, you know, clearly 

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both of these teams are not 
particularly good football 

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teams. 
And I think that, for, for 

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Indiana, in particular, it's 
it's, it's on. 

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It's not just unfortunate. 
It's, it's a bit sad that 

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they're if the spot that they're
at right now. 

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But this is the kind of game 
that can help to change that 

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narrative a bit if they can go 
into this game and they can take

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advantage of playing a 
relatively weak opponent on the 

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road. 
Then, to some degree. 

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I mean, I'm not gonna say All Is
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4 and 4. 
And you've at least got to 

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essentially, seesaw, types of 
games, potentially left on the 

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schedule between Michigan State 
and Purdue. 

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I mean, pretty was playing well.
But at least that games at home 

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that, you know, you least give 
yourself a Fighting Chance 

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Rutgers, you know, clearly last 
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overachieved a bit and if you 
forgotten, you know, Rutgers 

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last year was A bit of a 
surprise team overall, in terms 

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of how they perform down the 
stretch, of course, they blew 

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Indiana out in the game that 
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Bloomington, you know, and they 
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eight, you know, they end up 
going to a bowl in kind of a, 

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you know, a weird circumstance. 
And, you know, they had a couple

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of good wins last year. 
They won at Illinois, 22:14. 

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They know they kept it close at 
Michigan. 

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They only lost by seven last 
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They it's the guess, the thing 
that concerns me is they only 

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had three games last year total 
where they scored more than 19 

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points. 
Are they at four games last year

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with the scored more than 19 
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One of those games was against 
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against Delaware, one of those 
games was against Temple and one

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of those games against Indiana 
and they actually scored the 

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third most points that they 
scored All Season against 

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Indiana at Indiana. 
The Delaware game was at home, 

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the temple game was at home and 
the Illinois game while that was

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on the road, that was not 
exactly an offense Fest. 

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They only won that game 2214. 
So, you know, if I have some 

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trepidation and picking Indiana,
it's kind of twofold one fpi, 

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which is ESPN's predictor, gives
Rutgers at 58 percent, chance of

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Victory. 
Now, I think a lot of that is 

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kind of twofold. 
It's a, it's an artifact of the 

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fact that the gain is a At 
Rutgers, so they do get a bit of

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a bump there, but be Rutgers 
does look a lot better in terms 

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of the metrics in terms of the 
analytics than Indiana. 

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Does Indiana looks real bad. 
Right now, in the analytic, this

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is not me talking. 
This is PFF College, you know? 

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They have Indiana graded. 
I think is the second worst 

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Power 5 team in total across all
of college football. 

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I think the only team that 
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them is Colorado. 
And, you know, you look at some 

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of the Their metrics and 
Indiana's like a bottom, five 

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power Conference team. 
In offensive efficiency, there a

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bottom five defensive team in 
defensive efficiency in the 

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power 5 and Rutgers while they 
haven't looked good, hasn't 

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looked that bad like they have 
not looked bottom of the barrel 

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like Indiana has looked for much
of these games and to some 

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degree that that Illinois win, 
that, that Indiana picked up has

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given them. 
And frankly, the Western 

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Kentucky game too. 
To, which was for those of you 

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forgotten an overtime game 
against the Western Kentucky 

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name that has turned out to not 
be very good that Western 

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Kentucky team, that's lost some 
games that kind of make you 

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scratch your head like those two
wins have papered over a team 

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that realistically should 
probably have like one maybe two

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wins on the year. 
If you look at their efficiency 

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numbers and if you look at the 
way that they're graded out in 

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terms of the observational 
elements of of the grading 

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systems for football, That is 
really what gives me pause. 

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You know, we put a poll out on 
Crimson cast last night on 

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Twitter. 
What do you want out of a 

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preview podcast? 
And, you know, the winner, not 

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the runaway winner, but the 
winner of that was Good Vibes. 

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So I'm trying my best to give 
some good vibes on this by 

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saying, you know, looking at 
Rutgers offensive struggles and 

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looking at the fact that Indiana
when they've been able to keep 

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pressure off of counter basil, 
act has shown the ability in 

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those rare moments. 
Moments to move the ball, 

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through the air. 
I like Indiana slightly. 

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I mean, I'm talking about, I 
like Indiana by three or four 

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points. 
I think it's as likely to be a 

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slug Fest, but this is the kind 
of game given the struggles that

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Rutgers is had offensively that 
Indiana should win. 

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And frankly where Indiana has 
indicated that, they think they 

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should be, as a program. 
It's a game. 

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They absolutely have to win, you
know, because to lose this game 

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and to lose two years in a row 
to Rutgers Actually States. 

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Well, we're below Rutgers in the
pecking order and you've already

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essentially established now that
you're behind Maryland in the 

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pecking order as well because 
now you've lost to Marilyn two 

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times in a row. 
And so these are the kinds of 

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things that you know, I I tend 
to think Indiana is going to 

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look at that, they're going to 
focus on a particular game plan 

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that has a chance of working 
because if they can score some 

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points early, if they can get 
off to to a good start 

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offensively and get some points 
on the board. 

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They might just Be able to get 
too far ahead of Rutgers for 

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Rutgers to be able to adequately
come back. 

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The downside, all of that is the
statistics do not back that up 

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and Greg Schiano is a real good 
coach, Greg Schiano, you know, I

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think to some degree, people 
have forgotten, how good of a 

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coach he is. 
I think he demonstrated it last 

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year with, you know, what was a 
Rutgers team that was not? 

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Well, put together, he did, you 
know, he had taken over that 

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roster and had to figure stuff 
out on the Fly and somehow 

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managed to piece together a good
season. 

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And these are not the games that
Indiana tends to do well. 

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And I mean, it is a rarity still
and historically for Indiana to 

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thrive in games on the road, in 
the Big Ten and you know, 

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Rutgers is not been an exception
even in 2020, Indiana struggled 

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a bit in that game versus 
Rutgers. 

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People have kind of forgotten 
that game but that was that was 

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not an easy game for Indiana to 
win. 

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So I'm going to pick Indiana and
this one, you know, I'm going to

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say Indiana is going to win. 
Say 24 to 20 but I would be 

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leery. 
I don't know that I would, if 

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you're a wagering person I don't
know that I would put any money 

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on this game at all because 
there's a lot of intangibles, a 

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lot of things with both teams 
that could go wrong or could go 

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right, that are very difficult 
to figure out ahead of time. 

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So, anyway, I'm not sure if 
that's good vibes or just 

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trepidation, but we'll see what 
happens with this Indiana team 

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and hopefully, they can figure 
out a way to pull this out. 

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Get themselves back up to 500 
get a second, Big 10 win. 

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Maybe set themselves up for the 
bye week with a more positive 

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attitude and mentality, which I 
think is going to be important 

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for this team as they move 
forward. 

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Anyway, that's going to wrap it 
up for us today, we will be back

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with basketball. 
Talk coming up soon. 

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We'll also have our postgame 
podcast, probably coming up on 

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Sunday. 
We might get ambitious and 

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recorded Saturday, some time, 
but be expected on Sunday as it 

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normally comes through. 
I appreciate all you folks for 

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listening in as always and I 
hope you have a pleasant weekend

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for Crimson Castle. 
Last. 

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I am Galen klaviyo. 
Will catch you. 

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Folks on the flip side? 
Bring back the Bison, so 

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everybody