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Welcome back to Crimson, Cask ale and Claudio, Scott Caulfield
here. It is the 10th of January of
2022. It's good to be back with you
folks. Once again a busy weekend in
Indiana University. Jetix we'll talk about that and
there's a lot to speak of and basketball and I even some
football news we got going on Scott and and some interesting
stuff to say the least and as with most things with football,
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but we are compelled to speak about it.
Scott. How are you doing?
Good to see you and I'm doing great.
I can't imagine that you hate October more than you hate this
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The holidays are over. There's just basketball to get
us through which is good. I've said this before and I'll
repeat It I actually don't mind this as much as I mind October
because there is an encroaching sense of death in fall in the
late fall. Death is already here in
January. Like if you go out and stand in
this for 12 hours, you're not coming back from it.
And so I've almost like, it's easier for me to accept what's
happened then kind of go through the dread and anticipation of
what's about to come if that makes any sense.
It's Why up, like it's being in the middle of your dentist
appointment versus driving to the dentist's point.
It's like it's much easier to live through a 111 Indiana
football season than it is to live through like a five and
seven football season that will likely lead to a 1 and 11 season
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Scott when we last talked about this time last week, little
concerned about IU basketball. They had dropped that game on
the road to Penn State. We had a nice back and forth.
I think talking about some of the implications from that and
since then the Hoosiers are 2 and 0, they respond in a big way
with a home Victory against Ohio State on Thursday night, and
then they turn around and have a pretty workmen like when this
past Sunday, as they defeat Minnesota at home.
These were two games that the advanced statistics expected,
Indiana twin. So I wasn't surprised, but I
think a lot of people were really surprised.
Not just at the victory over Ohio State, but the manner in
which the victory over Ohio, State happened as the Hoosiers,
really put the clamps down on Ohio State in the second half
and one by double digits against the number 13 team in the
country that had played pretty well up to that point of the
Season, you were there. I was there.
What was your overall take home from that game?
And also what we saw in the Minnesota game.
Yeah, I mean, you know, to your point I was nervous because, you
know, unfortunately, we've been conditioned the last five or six
years that we get these, you know, little bumps in the road
and then it's like, all right. Well, if we can just win you,
the next two or three, we can kind of get back on track.
We never do. And it ends up kind of becoming
this, this bumpy thing. Ya know, the Ohio State game.
Gotta remember back to that. That was, that was a great game.
It was the game where it's like, oh, yeah, Trey Galloway.
Like I kind of forgot about him and then it's like, oh, this is
awesome. Command, like I'm listening to
the assembly call on the drive home and they're arguing over,
whether like was traced Jackson Davis, the player, the game was
Trey Gaudi the player the game. I think it's a everybody wins
that argument cause they were both fantastic.
But you saw, you know, Trace Jackson Davis, pull out all of
the stops, great defensive, defensive effort, the blocking,
but you had Trey Galloway, where it's like, man, this was really
a nice spark Off the Bench. Really helped make the offense
run as they mention on assembly call like the offense has to
Move when he's in because he he has to move.
Like he doesn't stop moving. So therefore it kind of like
kick start the offense every single time because he's just
moving around, guys. Like oh, yeah, I gotta, I can't
just stand here. Whereas, without him you can see
a stagnate and you, you know, again just a bit of a higher
view, you know, there's a real glass half full.
Look at this season where it's like, you know, if Trey Galloway
is a round, maybe we win for those to Syracuse, Wisconsin
game. James, I'm not going to say both
but it's possible. Like both of those were games.
Were, you know, you see like a team that is need to figure out
how to win down the stretch and the Penn State game.
It's like, all right, as to your point many times that you have
these Duds in the season, even in good years, where it's just
like, if we didn't show up that game, it's not great, but you
can kind of look back and be like, besides, that, this team
is really good and maybe Trey Galloway, is there, you know, we
have him for all three of those games.
Maybe were, you know, 14 and one right now as opposed to 12:03
and Stephen. Three is a really good position
to be in. So I mean that was that the main
takeaway from that and we'll get to the Minnesota game.
That's that's my feeling on, on the Ohio, State game in a game
where, you know, there was no students.
The crowd was was okay, wasn't like a raucous crowd?
It got there. But yeah, I mean you saw kind of
the full efforts of having a fired-up bench for than just
Trace Jackson Davis putting on an absolute Clinic.
Yeah. So on the Galloway point, I
think it's interesting. He's at two games back now from
the injury and he's been, you know, I think a really important
part of both of those games in different ways, the Ohio, State
game. He had one of those offensive
games that you hope that you are able to generate, as a player
who's coming off the bench. I mean over a point and a half
per possession used eight points.
Three, four, five shooting 2 for 2 from the free-throw line for
assists. No turnovers to steals.
I mean, he he was such a spark plug for that team in the Ohio
State game and it wasn't just his testicle output, but it was
the and G. He brings to the table.
And you know, this is something that we talked about a little
bit on the last show and I've talked with some of my friends
about over the course of the last few weeks and trying to I
guess, you know, excavate the IU roster and figure out where the
problems are. And one of the big issues that I
think Indiana has and has had for several years now, really,
since 2016, 2017 is the lack of a lot of players who demonstrate
for Lack of a better term, Killer Instinct on the floor,
you know, or and maybe get Killer, Instinct is kind of a
weird way of putting it, but just like.
So as much as everybody hates Brad Davidson or Davison, he has
this kind of intangible factor to the way that he plays where
it's like, that dude is going to do a lot of little things, and a
lot of effort things to win games that are going to make a
difference. And it might not be all one
play, but it might be little bit.
Pieces of five or six plays in those five or six plays end up
equating to Victory. And you can go through the
history of the Big Ten. I you always seem to have
players like that. It felt like during the night
era and then I would argue during the best Crane years.
They had players that were doing those things.
You know, they think about that 2016 team.
The last team that won the Big Ten title.
I mean, it wasn't just that you had Yogi Ferrell and Thomas
Bryant but you had, you know, guys like Nick's ice Loft and
Max. Beal felt and guys who were just
really effort based players who might have lacked it in certain
technical skill, sets or athletic skill sets, but we're
able to help tip the scales and it just, it felt like the last
year of crean and most of, or maybe all of our cheese tenure.
Those were just not the types of players that were getting
recruited. They were talented players, but
there would be an obvious disjoint meant in the way that I
you conducted its elves at certain times and they would
play particularly, you know, the troubles that they've had
against Purdue, the troubles they've had against Wisconsin.
The troubles have had against Ohio State.
Those teams have generally had those types of players and
you've been or at least I've been like, wondering where are
those players for IU Galloway? At least in these two games back
has helped to Trait that and even in the Minnesota game where
he wasn't as big of a factor offensively, you know, he didn't
he didn't didn't hit the same number of shots, scored.
Almost the same number of points, but it was a little bit
more careless with the ball wasn't hitting from outside.
He was still making little plays and little effort approaches
that helped. And if you'll notice over the
last couple of games, Woodson has defaulted to this lineup
that consists of Xavier Johnson Robb, fennessy.
Tray, Galloway, race Thompson, and Trace Jackson Davis, when
things are on the line Jared from assembly call.
Tweeted something, you know, over the course of the last
couple of the last 10 games, I guess against top 200
competition. We're talks about like having
Johnson and fantasy on the floor at the same time.
And then you through Galloway, and who's also been in the last
couple of games in those lineups, those lineups, more
than anything else, have become very difficult to score, against
teams are not averaging above a point per possession.
Ocean against that lineup. And it seems like there's some
special sauce that started to be generated there and particularly
with Galloway kind of acting in a much more aggressive manner
than the players that could be out there at that time.
And I'm talking specifically about Parker, Stewart and Miller
cop. Galloway is just brought such a
higher level of intensity to what he does on the floor.
That it really does kind of. Oh, I think add up to this kind
of Rozier scenario that you're talking about, maybe
historically. Where it's like if Galloway had
been able to play against a Syracuse or Wisconsin, maybe
there's a difference, maybe not. There's a thousand variables
that go into every basketball game.
But regardless of whatever the past was, you do have to feel
better about the future knowing that you've now got Galloway
able to come off the bench and give minutes at point guard at
the, to even at the three. That's a very versatile player
that's playing with a level of energy and intensity that we
just haven't necessarily seen from the guys that are in
starting in those roles. What I thought was also really
interesting. You mentioned, you know, I heard
this brought up in a couple of spots, you know, maybe you
should we shake up the starting lineup.
I think no, I like Galloway Off the Bench but you know again,
it's like not to matter who starts matters who finishes.
I thought it was amazing and it should have been this way but
you know, Galloway, Miss 10 games.
He only played 19 minutes against Ohio, State getting
close the game out like that. That should show us like, what
woods and things are what Galloway provides to this team,
you know, in a relatively close game against Ohio State, He's
there on the you know, well final five and it's like he had
played in a month and a half and he's like, he's closing the game
out. Well, what was it?
Woodson said he's like, you know, I'm going to play guys who
play hard and if you're not playing hard you're going to sit
next to me. And look, we've talked about
this from the beginning. There's two different ways to
evaluate. What a coach does.
You can evaluate with the coach does in the game and then you
can evaluate what a coach does over the course of a season.
Multiple Seasons, what culture they're able?
All to create and rightly or wrongly.
When you watched Archie, Miller's teams, play you always
kind of ask yourself. Where is the culture of
accountability for guys that aren't playing particularly
hard? And it was never a question at
least in my mind of does a guy have the talent to be on the
floor, but it was more. What is the guy doing to really
provide something to the team that's needed at that moment in
time. And is there a sense of urgency?
Because I just felt like there wasn't.
In key moments. It was honestly, so, I was, I
got a chance, I went to Southern stone for breakfast before the
basketball game on Sunday and they had Big Ten Network up and
they were showing a replay of the Indiana Minnesota game from
2004, you know, so Mike, Davis coach game, not a great
Minnesota team, Indiana LED like almost the whole time.
They ended up losing at the end and it was a similar kind of
deal where it's like, where was the urgency when it mattered?
And it's felt like To some degree that's been missing from
a lot of Indiana teams down the stretch over the course of the
last couple of decades. So I'm I'm buoyed by the idea
that Woodson might be focusing on effort and the fact that he's
got enough players in the mix now that he can afford to not
play a Stewart or a cop or a Tomar Bates because he's got an
option now with Galloway who's willing to play hard.
Now, look we all watched Ray Galloway last year.
We know that Galloway kind of started off with this.
Level of intensity. And then it burned out and was
he was just not very effective on the floor for the last half
of the season. So I'm curious if he's learned
some lessons there if he's gotten some additional coaching
and he's gonna be able to sustain this throughout because
if he does if he has that ability then I do think that
opens up a different dimension of this Indiana team,
particularly in closing time in games where they have the lead,
or were it's closed where they can rely on this line up, not
just for defense, but also for the energy needed to help close
out games. Which has been a problem over
the course of the last several years.
The other thing that I'm positive about taking these two
games, is you kind of have I think what Indiana can be a real
pain for teams in that in both of the games.
You know, our defense was was great.
You know, we shut down, Ohio State, we shut down Minnesota.
We really shut down Ohio State, but when you look on the, so our
defense continues to be just a rock solid defense, I think, at
one point, I know after Ohio State, we were, you know, First
in the Big Ten in you know, two point field goal percentage.
Not sure if we're still there, but what I love seeing is on the
offensive side, you have kind of this tale of two teams where
against Ohio State. It's like, all right, Tres
Jackson, Davis and race. Thompson are going to provide,
you know, 38 of our points. You'll basically, the majority
of our points are going to come from.
The inside Trace is going to have just an amazing Trace game,
super efficient, and that's great because you're going to
get one of those out of him. Probably, you know, every three
hours. For games, you're going to get
just a great Trace, Jackson, Davis game.
And then you see the next game. It's like Minnesota's like, all
right, we're obviously going to double team Trace where
double-teaming everything in the post, Rob fantasy, Xavier
Johnson, go nuts. If you guys can shoot whatever
you want. I don't particularly think
they're going to shoot as well as they did in that game.
But if you can just have somewhat consistent 3-point,
shooting from those guys. Now, it's like you saw Minnesota
the second half, like we're not quite sure what to do.
Like, if it is, he's hitting threes.
So, I guess I got to go up on him.
But if I got to come back on tracing it just, it messes
everything up and it does really show the dynamic offense.
This team really could have, if we can get some consistent
three-point shooting that it's like, well, I'm not sure is a
defense. How you, how you stop Indiana
when they can do both of those things.
I mean, obviously we're not going to like win out.
I'm not saying that but it really shows a higher level and
you saw it in these two games that the different ways that we
can win games because the last thing I'll say like, Tres
Jackson Davis against You know, against Minnesota.
He only had what 11 13 points didn't go to them a lot.
They didn't need to like, maybe he was getting doubled, that's
like, so anyway, yeah, I mean look, so it's interesting
because the trace Jackson, Davis is still the default and when
they can get him the ball efficiently and he's not getting
overplayed, then I think you're going to get games like that,
Ohio State game where he's just bullying his opponents in the
post. Minnesota was basically like,
we're not going to let that happen.
We're not going to let this guy beat us.
You can beat us from outside and you know, Xavier Johnson really
struggled from outside in the game and look, you're going to
get that. And you know, I think that, you
know, he had an unfortunate shooting game where he still
shot 33 percent from three. Like it felt like he missed ten
three-pointers and they weren't respecting his shot.
But he was still 246 from outside.
But Rob fantasy was certainly the storyline, and it wasn't
just that Rob was hitting shots. It was that he was looking for
the threes by, you know, about the second.
Or third time that he shot the bike.
He was, he was setting up with his feet.
It was a determined purposeful Rob finna, see, which is the
best Rob fantasy. It's the rub fantasy.
We've been asking for it's the not tentative, the not overly
concerned with what's going on around him, rub fantasy, and
that believe it or not was a tie for the most three-pointers that
Rob fennessy as made in a single game, in his entire IU career,
the only other time that He has made four three-pointers in the
game. Was that game at Iowa last year
where he was 447. So I think there's a lot of
really positive signs. When you look at Rob fennessy.
He got the Ken pom MVP award for this last game.
He has hit threes now in four of his last five games.
And you know, that's that includes two against Notre Dame,
but includes a three against Penn State, the four threes
against, Minnesota. That's a huge change.
And this is a player who, you know, he's at the beach.
For the first month of the year. Rob, fennessy was having, I
think I counted it up. If you look at offensive rating
and overall offensive contributions.
Rob fantasy was having among the worst seasons of an IU starter
in the last 20 years. That is no longer the case.
Now, he's still got a long way to go to kind of dig himself out
of the statistical whole, but as of right now, you can't look at
Rob fennessy. And the what he's contributing
and say anything other than this is helping to contribute.
I you contribute to IU winning games in a way that we don't
think could have expected through the first month of the
Season. He still isn't hitting shots
from inside the three-point line, that much but the fact
that he's shooting. What is it?
Now, 32 percent from three that is about as good as he is shot
in a season throughout the course of his career.
He was 33 percent from three as sophomore year, but last year He
was 26 percent from three. So this does represent a big
Leap Forward. Obviously, he has to sustain it.
But I do like the development that's happening there.
And I think it's great that Woodson and his staff seem to
have figured out a way to make Rob fennessy feel like himself
again, and I was very worried that that wasn't going to be the
case. What anything else from the
Minnesota game in particular that stood out to you?
One thing I don't know why I was thinking about this but it's one
thing. I just kind of looked in the
numbers and thought about, you know, again, even when he isn't
having a great statistical game, Trace Jackson Davis just does so
much by being on the floor drawing so much.
The defense you always have that thought is like right when
you're you know, when you have a big man kind of leading the team
like, you know what happens if you get to inspect gets in foul
trouble and I was just going back and looking like, you know,
how many times this season Trace Jackson Davis has had four Outs.
It hasn't happened. Yeah, he's only had three fouls.
Once that was against the Louisiana.
If you go back and look last year.
He only had four fouls in four games in 2020.
He only had four fouls once he's never fouled out of the game.
I'm not saying it isn't going to happen.
Like don't shoot me. It's like he gets you three
quick ones against Iowa. It is Big Ten officiating but
it's again, you know, we talked about tracing all of these great
things. He does.
That's another thing, you know, he's his fouls per game as down
under it like one. 89 for this season .6 1.6.
Yeah. For as much usage as he gets and
for as many blocks as he goes for and I would never think
that, you know, I never leave a game thinking like, wow, he just
didn't go for it, on D. Like he's everywhere.
Going at everything. You know, he's lowering his
shoulders into guys on the offensive end.
It is, it's remarkable how little he gets in foul trouble.
Like I wish you could take like, 20 percent of that and just hand
it off to savior Johnson's. Okay, you don't get in that
foul, but it's just, yeah. I don't know why I was You think
about that? But it is something where again,
I think we can feel confidence. I you fans I don't see us many
times this evening having an issue where it's like, what do
we do when you trace picks up his third foul, in the beginning
of the first quarter? Well, it's just it's amazing how
little foul trouble he gets. If I mean, if he picks up fouls
in the first quarter, we don't have to worry about it.
But no, I think you make a good point.
And look, I think it points to I was talking with, with a friend
of mine on Sunday about what is Woodson done.
That's been the most impressive to me.
And to me, I think the change in defensive approach and defensive
mentality. And the way that Indiana has
been able to improve significantly their effort and
their abilities on defense while simultaneously, you know, not
turning into an overly physical team that is just getting by on,
you know, Wisconsin or Michigan State are a bully ball is really
impressive because it really has been Focused on denying
opportunities for Shooters denying opportunities for
passers. And for Trace Jackson Davis
coming in and being able to block shots or Ultra shots
without picking up, fouls and Trace deserves a lot of credit
because the takes a lot of body control and a lot of mental
control to not put yourself in the wrong position, but I think
Woodson deserves a lot of credit because he has taken a lot of
these individual pieces and is built a framework within which
they can operate effectively and look.
It's why, you know, I know a lot of people Get frustrated with
Xavier Johnson, you know, that I was getting texts from people.
Like why is this guy even in the game during the Minnesota game?
But it's so easy to let Johnson's offensive.
Proclivities, I guess overly affect you and even, you know,
his offensive. Proclivities aren't that bad?
He's, he's averaging over a point per possession and he's
one of the best assistant in the country's 52nd in the country
and assist rate right now, and his scoring has been, okay, you
know, he's shooting. 35 percent from to 35 percent from three,
seventy percent from, the free-throw, line, like he's
doing all of that relatively. Well, if you, if you just
watched Johnson as a stat line rather than watching him as a
player. I think you'd be a lot less
inclined to ask why he was on the floor, but what honestly he
does best that doesn't show up in the in the stat line is how
well he's able to lock down his opponents in key situations.
Most of the time when he defends its Not all the time.
And I think if there's a growth curve for IU basketball over the
course of the next couple of weeks.
It's going to be continuing to rein in his emotional, impulses
and continuing to try to get him to keep from putting himself in
a position, where referees, feel compelled to call fouls on him.
That if he can do that in context of what's going on in
the individual games. I really like the possibilities
for Indiana because I think he does provide a lot of things
that just nobody else on the roster does.
And more to the point him. Providing those things allows
Rob fennessy to not have to be the primary distributor allows
tray. Galloway to not have to be the
primary distributor in the clutch in key moments that's
going to matter and it look as I've said before and I will
continue to say, this is a flawed roster.
It is not a roster that was put together with long-term goals in
mind. It was a cobbled together roster
and as Woodson has talked about, it's a roster.
That just hasn't been together that long.
At long, if they continue to play like they played in the
last two games. I like their chances of
continuing develop and being a team that's going to be hard to
beat down the line. So, anyway, two games this
upcoming week and I think these are going to be interesting
games, Indiana at Iowa on Thursday night, and then they're
at Nebraska technically next week, but it's Monday of next
week. So when you get Iowa is never
easy. Although Indiana did do it last
year. Are that would be a big win, not
a win. That's projected right now,
Indiana only a 39% pick in that game.
According to Ken pom, the game at Nebraska is a game that looks
like a must win since they lost that game at Penn State.
So, you know, you'd love to see Indiana, go 2 and 0 in this
stretch, but one in one is pretty much right on track with
what you would hope or expect. This team would be able to do at
this point in the season. Yeah, I mean one-on-ones what
you got to do and Iowa is an, is an odd teaming.
They're ranked right where we are in Camp, Amor kind of right
in that 2526 range. When you look at their their
schedule. It's like the only teams they've
beaten have been worse than them.
Like when they played Purdue Illinois, Iowa state, Wisconsin.
All teams kind of in the same ranking is Indiana.
They've lost their best win outside of that is probably, you
know, either Virginia Utah, State or Maryland and Maryland's
kind of fallen off a cliff and be you start the Utah State win
is good. I mean, people don't Give you
just a lot of credit, but that's a that's a top 60 team and they
want on a neutral floor. But your your point is
well-taken. Go on.
Ya know. So I don't you know, this is
where you know, I think that I've I go back to this, you
know, the the the the game we beat Kentucky, you know way back
when with that team. What to me that the key part of
that that lead up to that game was winning at North Carolina
State, because that team had kind of got a little bit of
juice, but like, We have a tough, you know, ACC Big Ten
challenge game. It's on the road.
We won that game. We went to the Kentucky game,
undefeated, and remember thinking like this is going to
get Assembly Hall like fired up. Like we're going to be
undefeated, people can like this, you know, kind of like
this. This T might have a shot.
I'm not saying you have to wonder One is kind of what I'm
expecting. But if you could win the next to
suddenly, you're on a four-game winning streak.
I think it kicks. Some of that Penn State dust off
and now you're really fired up coming into that Purdue game.
I don't, I think people would already be fired up to that
Purdue game, but if you're 40 and May this team's got
something rolling. Now.
We just wanted Iowa. Like I think you could have a
really electric kind of History, you know, memories of older
Assembly Hall crowds that we've seen.
I think that could really help leading into another tough
weekend of Purdue and Michigan next week.
So I think that you get to your point one and one is probably
what we need to do and that's not anything bad, but I do think
there is a nice opportunity here to pick up a A really good road
win but not like a Michigan State type Road win.
Like one. That's probably a bridge too far
for this team. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, there's no there's no shame in losing at Iowa.
It's going to be interesting because Iowa is a classic Fran
mccaffery team. They are fourth in the nation
and offensive efficiency, and they are 184th in defensive
efficiency. And and so this ends up becoming
one of those things where you ask yourself.
Well what wins in the Battle of a great off?
Sense of team versus a great defensive team and you know, for
Indiana, I think this Iowa game, a lot of it's going to come down
to you know in Iowa's got the 23rd best two point percentage,
completion rate in college basketball, Indiana.
The best has the best to point B fence in college basketball, you
know, Iowa play for it. Maybe just do with other Raiders
as a virgin, should it almost. Yeah, you know, but then it's
also like Iowa doesn't turn the ball over and Indiana doesn't
Force turnovers, so It like that there's certain this is a
fascinating game and I'm really curious to see how it goes.
Because I would argue that it was even a, you know, because a
slightly more extreme version of this last year and Indiana and
up winning, not just at home, but also on the road against
Iowa, different coach, different Personnel, different situation.
I'll be curious to see how this one plays out.
And then the Nebraska game next week.
We'll have time to talk about before that happens again, but a
lot of that comes down to one of the issues that Indiana had to
manage in this Minnesota game was You have a big win,
potentially. How do you manage your feelings
about yourself? And your team when playing a
lesser opponent? Particularly on the road?
We saw it like last night, Wisconsin who's got like a two
seed resume right now. Jumped out to a big lead against
Maryland and then almost lost the game.
You know, I mean, they had to really hold off Maryland at the
end of that Maryland, teams kind of been adrift lately.
So there's a lot of intangible mental emotional elements to all
of this that we have to consider, but there's also the
straight up basketball. That's so just a really
fascinating set of circumstances.
Coming up for this, Indiana basketball team, and all of that
leads up to that Purdue game. Coming up next Thursday.
So a critical stretch for Indiana early on, in the car, in
the season. One.
The one thing I will say, I'm looking, I'm looking forward to
hopefully, see an uptick. I don't want to be too negative
here. But, you know, I think we know a
trace Jackson Davis race Thompson.
Going to give you what they're going to give you.
And for the most part, you know, fennessy and Johnson, there are
there obviously up and down, but they do it kind of within a
Range, you know Trey Gowdy has kind of shown that the the one
area I can try to stay positive here.
I think you could see a positive uptick is getting something a
little bit more out of Tomorrow Bates.
He's really been off the radar. Probably since the, you know
that Nebraska game, you know, this last three games have been
zero points. Two points against Northern,
Kentucky. So, he's really not been looking
good. And I've said this the beginning
of the year. This is a freshman.
You're going to have these ups and downs.
What I do. Hope is that maybe we now see an
uptick Tick and we see a couple games maybe he can get 78, you
know ten points account Nebraska.
Like last time you'll get 13 points because that could really
add a boost this team. I like in theory what he
produces it hasn't been happening now.
And again, I do not want to be negative because this is a
freshman play, but I do think that's a positive.
We're we're kind of do for a nice little tour 3, You Know,
Tamar Bates, run here because what he can provide this team
could really use to, because he has a little bit of that tray
Galloway. Quick spark thing.
It just feels like he hasn't been able Kind of plug it in the
right way. The last couple games.
I mean, you know, Bates I think has you could make an argument.
He's hit a wall here. He did, you know, he had a dnp
obviously for, for family reasons, against Notre Dame, but
the last three games he's played.
Six minutes, four minutes and five minutes.
He's 0 for 6 from the field with three turnovers in those three
games, combined. Look, it's better than that.
He's better than that, but it's hard to play in the Big Ten as a
freshman and And look, I think this is actually good because
ultimately, while I think he provides a lot, he is still very
raw and a bunch of areas and you can tell when he's out on the
floor. He doesn't exactly know what
he's supposed to be doing. And that's something that I
think the coaching staff will work with them on, it would be
great to have him as another functional member.
He's still getting run in that second unit rotation.
That happens, that that's it. About the ten minute Mark of the
first half, but he's got to show that he can do more.
And I think as we've talked about Many times it is the
Hallmark of a good team to have options as opposed to having to
play guys, simply because you don't have any other options.
And so I'd love tomorrow Bates to become an option that you
can't keep off the floor. But right now he's not there.
So we'll see what happens with all of that.
But yeah, a lot of fun stuff coming up and certainly I think
for his down as IU, basketball Twitter, and IU, basketball
fandom was last week at this time, certainly a lot more
reason to feel optimistic. This week heading into that Iowa
game, quick. Let's turn to football and talk
about of a wild, couple of weeks here for Indiana.
So at the end of last week, we discovered that the defensive
coordinator, the brand new one that was hired to replace cane
Wommack leaves to go to North Carolina.
Trout and Warren after one, season is DC takes off and heads
to Chapel Hill where he becomes a co-defensive coordinator with
Gene, chizik and Kevin people's also gone the defensive line
coach. Meanwhile, you've got a new
quarterback and Connor Baza lakh from Missouri.
And now, as of this morning, you've got a new defensive
coordinator. Having been announced, as we
welcome to the IU family. Chad Wilt who's been the
defensive line coach for the Minnesota Golden Gophers, he
ends up coming in and it sounds like he'll be coaching both the
defensive line as well as being the defensive coordinator, which
is not that unusual of an arrangement.
You also have some additions from the transit, the transit,
the transfer portal. Kentucky linebacker Jared, Casey
a former four-star comes in. You've had a couple of other
players join as well. It's hard.
And we talked about this at the beginning of the show, Scott.
It's hard to know what any of this is going to mean in the
long term. But you know, as quickly as the
war and departure curd you now have somebody that replaces them
and that looks very orchestrated, it.
Like that doesn't look like it was a surprise that war and left
and Wilt comes in, feels like this was planned.
It's a little bit peculiar because you kind of got the
sense from Tom Allen back in the middle of December that there
weren't going to be any more staff changes.
Now, there's at least two and I'm guessing there's going to be
at least one more, but it's it's certainly just it's an
interesting time for Indiana right now.
Just a whole lot of churn with this program.
Yeah. I mean if I told you in
November, we're going to have, you know, three or four
coordinators, leave how high Would you have offensive line up
there before? As you as one of your draft
picks? I would have put a lot of money
that offensive line would have been one of the changes but yet
it's still not and we'll talk about that in September.
No, it's you know, it's it makes for bad podcasting but like in
the end, it's just going to come down to results like this is
next year's a big season and there's a lot of new people and
new places that you're going to have.
Both new coordinators are new new quarterback, and there's a
lot of new pieces here, a ton of transfers.
You know, and it's Alan has got to make it work.
That's the basic thing. It was funny.
It's like this is kind of against his, you know, his whole
Mantra is kind of like, you know, family and I'm sticking
with my guys and we're going to have, you know, consistency and
continuity. And this is not that this is
going to be a team of transfers with two brand-new coordinators.
You know, I don't know how how easy it's going to be for our
wounded to get that Elio field mushing for and it definitely
felt like One was more of a guy who wanted to build like, you
know, a consistent model where you had this, you know, guys
coming up through the system and knowing it, that's not what
you're going to have. But in the end, you know, I no
idea if it's going to work but it kind of like there is no
other option. Like there is no failure is not
an option so to speak. Unfortunately, with IU football.
It seems always be an outcome. But you know, that's that's
where we're at. And yeah, I know it's going to
be interesting. This is definitely unlike.
Very few IU football, season's. I can think of, you know, but
you look at, you know, I keep going back to be, look at
Michigan State. They made it work, you know,
they had a lot of transfers and able to figure it out.
So it's not impossible and maybe this is what this team needs is.
Kind of like almost a it's a shocking your pool.
We're just throwing a bunch of core chlorine in the system and
just trying to get a whole new look.
But it's a ton of change. Yeah, it really is.
And I think ultimately what you're dealing with with this
particular change is a situation where Tom Allen is, you said he
has to make it work. He has to find people that can
coach at this level. And look, I, we had a lot of
criticisms of the Walt Bell higher and look, I'm still, but
the jury still very much out on that.
This one feels a little bit more, like a reasonable higher,
you know, if you look at at this particular coaches track record
at Minnesota, he was an effective defensive line coach.
Absolutely. He.
There was some numbers that I were tossed around.
I think this was Mike Schumann from the daily.
Hoosier talked about this we recruited very well was was very
much able to pull in some. I think some four stars on the
defensive line was able to figure out a lot of good options
in terms of getting their run defense to be better.
Obviously. We got a chance to watch that
Minnesota defense up close and personal this year and they were
certainly a good unit that defensive line in particular.
Gave Indiana. All kinds of fits granted.
Defensive unit gave India fits this year, but this is a guy
with Big Ten coaching experience.
And, you know, look, we one of the things we criticized Alan,
for with the Bell higher was that it felt like another
higher, where Allen was leaning on his coaching connections or
people that he had either personally coached with, or it
kosher somebody who can vouch for the person.
I don't see that in wilts background.
Like he's, he coached under Luke fickle at Cincinnati.
He's coached under PJ Fleck. At Minnesota, the only
connection I can see is he played at Taylor?
Like the he was a, he was a big, a defensive lineman at Taylor
when he played in the late 90s, but and that's not even a direct
connection. So if we had questions about
what direction we were going to see Alan go with this and
whether he was going to try to keep it in the family, so to
speak, he doesn't appear to unless there's a connection that
I'm missing and so I am happy to see that and hopefully that
bears some dividends for Indiana as they move forward and to your
point. It does feel like this.
You know, Warren. Let it we don't know.
But it did feel like Warren maybe said a couple weeks of.
Okay. I'm going to North Carolina and
then is I use a cake you hold it will find somebody else to get
it didn't this didn't feel so much as a firing as a
coordinator leaving in US. Almost kind of trying to figure
it out without when the circuit should already kind of stop and
to your point. I think this is I'm okay with
this as well. It just it does leave you in a
spot where both of your coordinators are now brand-new.
Yeah, it does. But look that's That is, you
know, kind of a reality of the business right now.
And I look, I think one of the things that dominates college
football in this are more than anything else.
Is it's going to be a constant constant era of churn.
And for a program like Indiana particular, when you're dealing
with n IL related issues as it comes to transfers, you're going
to have to figure out a way to maintain, maybe not continuity
of coaching staffs. Players, but you're gonna have
to figure out. How do I get a team that's
competitive out on the field and a given season.
And that might be a team that looks very different from the
previous year's team. That's not necessarily a bad
thing. It's just a different thing from
how we have been kind of weaned on college football, where we've
always looked at the programs that have the most continuity
with the highest-ranking recruits as programs that are
able to sustain and these arrows Indiana never really had that.
So, And they go this opposite route.
Can they do what Michigan state did last year and have a bunch
of changes but melded together in a way where they're able to
take advantage of things? And like you said, we're not
going to know until the season not as soon as the season starts
but like well into the season, we're not going to know if any
of these changes have been successful and as much as I
think Alan, you know, deserves some criticism for how things
went this past year and and the overall management of things.
You never know. He might be the perfect guy, to
figure out how to navigate some of these issues or you Not be,
we'll have to just wait and see. So, and the thing that I will
say is, you know, I hate it, but he's kind of, you know, so to
speak. Allen has been winning the press
conference in that, you know, are recruiting ranking is
getting better every single year.
And this year, it was obviously a top 20.
And then to your point. This is definitely the new world
where we're in this, you know, transfer portal year-over-year.
And again, I think I'm not sure how the rankings are totally
being done. But if you go to 24/7 Sports the
transfer rankings, you know, we're second in the country with
this, you know, a head of Michigan State ahead of Alabama
ahead of Ole Miss. Alabama, is pretty good.
Last, I checked something where s the country and transfer
rankings will see if that bears any reality to wins and losses,
but thus far, it does seem that Alan's able to get our
recruiting up and is able to play in this transfer portal
Market, which does which to me, is actually the most fascinating
and maybe the most, you know, positive note.
There is. It does feel like, you know,
recruiting feels like it might have like an 18-month lead time
or guys. Who recruited, you know, off of
the Outback Bowl or the Gator Bowl.
And it's like they're like don't have time to basically open up
their commitment when they see it's go to and 10 the transfer
stuff feels like it's very in the Moment.
Like This feels very much. Like this is a reflection of
where your program is right now and coming off a very
disappointing to and 10-year. No big 10 wins for Alan to get s
in the country. Is pretty remarkable.
Yeah. Anyway, that's going about.
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Let's go to 2 and 0 on the road. Let's do it.
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