1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,880 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:19,880 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Galen Clavio, Scott Caulfield joining you. 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,240 It is Tuesday, November 21st. It's Thanksgiving week. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,760 Scott and I are both back from the Big Apple. 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,200 We witnessed Indiana do what everybody thought they would do, 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,840 which was go one and one in the Empire Classic. 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Not a lot else to talk about, so we'll just leave it here. 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,240 No, but talk to you guys next time. 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Yeah, absolutely. Might be best for all of us at 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,360 this point. No, we have to talk about what 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,520 we witnessed out there at the Garden, as Indiana did not 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,320 really perform well in the first game and did not really perform 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,880 well in the second game. But at the end of the day, the 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,840 results were what most people thought they were going to be, 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,720 which was that Indiana would lose the first game and win the 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,200 second. We'll talk about how they got 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,320 there and we'll talk about where this team's at, 'cause this is 19 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,120 already an exhausting season and we're only five games in. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,640 And that's. Yeah. 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Anyway, before we get to that, just a reminder, we are brought 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,000 to you by home Field Apparel. As you heard in the opening 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,600 bumper, we spent a wonderful morning on Sunday morning at the 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,640 home field party. They hosted something at the 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Storehouse in New York City. It was a great event. 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,120 It was packed. Two of the the highest selling 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,240 fan bases for home field apparel, Indiana and UConn were 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,200 there. There were a few Texas people 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,320 there. There were some crisis actors 30 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,720 that were hired to play Louisville fans that were there 31 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,120 and and it was a great time. It was awesome. 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,080 We enjoyed it. Connor and the crew put on a 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,000 great party so our thanks to them hopefully if you were out 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,400 there you got a chance to go. We got a chance to see a bunch 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,800 of people some of whom we saw at other events like in Vegas last 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,320 year, some of whom we hadn't met in person yet. 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,120 A lot of people came up and we're very complimentary of the 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,720 show and and we're complimentary of you folks who really 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,200 appreciate you listening and we also appreciate you going to the 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,920 event and helping to support home field apparel and but if 41 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:21,000 you haven't shopped there yet, you know normally we give you 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,280 the 15% off code. If you haven't shopped there 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,560 yet, Scott, we don't have to do that this week because it's 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:32,640 Black Friday time and you can use the Black Friday code to buy 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,720 stuff for 20% off. 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Go get yourself one of those. 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Go get somebody in your family something that you think they'll 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,120 love or that you love and and want them to wear. 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,520 That's always my favorite move on these things. 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,600 I I don't care what you want, Scott. 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,000 I want. Well, not you specifically, but 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,680 like, if I was, if I did feel that way about you, will you? 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Yeah. Yes, exactly. 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,640 I would. I would buy you what I wanted 62 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,920 you to wear. So go to homefieldapparel.com. 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,080 Black Friday is the code 20% off. 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Check them out right now. Well, I'm really losing my power 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,960 on the podcast. Like now. 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,680 Now you're making me dressed a certain way. 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,160 It's like, this is getting weird. 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 I have a They had a nice little run of. 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,600 I mean, it's not hidden, but it's like they release stuff so 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,640 often I didn't even notice. They had a great Cardiac Colts 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,840 collection from the 95 Colts. So I have that sweatshirt 72 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,520 coming. I think it's coming tomorrow, so 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,160 I'm excited for that. So go check out. 74 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Home field was awesome. The event was awesome. 75 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Great to see Connor and I echo what you said. 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,120 People came up to us at that event. 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,640 I had a couple people at Madison Square. 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,760 For a garden, I'm I know I'm loud and I guess my voice is 79 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,400 distinctive. People like, hey Scott, like, 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,960 hey, love the podcast and it's. I appreciate all of it. 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,000 It was funny. I sat down for the games and 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,880 Alvin was the gentleman sitting next to me and he like within a 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,440 second he's like, you're Scott from the podcast. 84 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,960 All right, well, you're you're about to get the, the full, the 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 full thought. And what's funny is not to give 86 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,720 away secrets here, but he's like, oh, this is going to be 87 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,519 fun. And I'm like actually, like, I 88 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,680 know that on the podcast, you know, Galen is kind of reserved 89 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 and very, you know, specific about what he talks about. 90 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,320 I'm a little more off the handle. 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,240 I would say that we are reversed at the game. 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Like, you are a little more bombastic than I am. 93 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,240 And so it was kind of like an interesting, like, no, it's 94 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,480 actually like, you know, Galen is more like me during a game 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:44,040 and more like I'm more like, no, I think that's fair There There 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,360 are demons within me that come out at games. 97 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,560 If anybody that's been with me at a football game absolutely 98 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,320 knows that. But on the podcast? 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,840 Yes, I I I essentially kind of lobotomized myself for however 100 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,640 long we record and then I'm back to my normal self afterwards. 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,000 So yeah, but Alvin mentioned that it it is this happens for 102 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,080 me with you sometimes that he listens to our podcast like 1 103 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,080 1/4 speed, which I do as well, like 1.21.3 sometimes. 104 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,000 And it's funny, like, I'll be listening to like one of your 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,920 preview pods. And then I'll call you for 106 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,200 something. It's like, man, is Galen's 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,160 talking really sluts? Oh no, It's because that's just 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,960 normal pains. I've been listening to Speed Up 109 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Galen for a while. I have no clue how you people 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,160 listen to podcasts at anything other than 1113 is good. 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,680 Once you get to 1/5, it's like doing cocaine. 112 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Like it's like your brain is scrambled. 113 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,440 I've tried. I can't do it. 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,680 I've, I I have to listen to it at normal speed. 115 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,120 I'm sorry. So anyway, all right, let's talk 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,720 about the basketball games. So we're going to focus, well, I 117 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,200 guess we got to focus on a little bit of everything. 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 I mean, look, you all saw the Yukon game. 119 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,600 I think there's there's an interesting portal into a 120 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,960 different dimension when you know where there's there's that 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,520 play at the end of the. There was a sequence there in 122 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,720 the Yukon game. Indiana had kind of chopped the 123 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:09,360 lead back down just slightly and it was, it was I think 50 to 43. 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,680 And Indiana there was a there was either a turnover or a 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,960 missed shot. Xavier Johnson gets the ball and 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,320 he has an outlet and it looks like he's about to throw it and 127 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,400 he gets his pocket pick from behind and then UConn scores as 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,960 a foul on Malik Renew. And basically from that point 129 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,080 the game completely went off the rails. 130 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Now I don't think Indiana is actually pulling that game out 131 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,520 down the stretch, but you know, I it was interesting because 132 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,040 when you go back and look at that UConn game, UConn was 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,200 clearly the better team. But Indiana did do a few things 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,560 in that game for about 25 to 30 minutes where you're like, you 135 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,840 know, I I can, I can dig this. Malik Renew had a tremendous 136 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:50,720 game. You know, Khalil Ware, even 137 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,320 though he wasn't shooting the ball well, was getting to the 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,200 free throw line. He was rebounding the 139 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,520 basketball. You know, you you got a fairly 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,600 decent game out of Trey Galloway, at least from a 141 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,840 scoring perspective. You didn't get a lot out of 142 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,120 anybody else, which then we'll get to that in a second. 143 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,360 But you know what was a little disturbing, I think about that 144 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,760 game was that after efforting, at least a decent amount for 145 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,520 about 2530 minutes, Indiana just completely looked like they gave 146 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,280 up at that point when things started to not go their way and 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,760 it went completely off the rails. 148 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,240 And and it was, that was really a tough game to sit there and 149 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,560 watch. And you know, we, we were both 150 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:31,240 in Vegas last year watching Indiana lose to Arizona and that 151 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,880 game, you know, certainly felt like Indiana just got 152 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,320 obliterated. And then you go back and you 153 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,400 look and you're like actually Indiana only lost that game by 154 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,680 14. And and it wasn't nearly as bad 155 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,360 actually, once Indiana kind of pulled it back in the 156 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,720 second-half as it as the Yukon game was, they just gave up at 157 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,440 the end of the Yukon game effort wise. 158 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Then you go into the Louisville game and I'm doing these as a 159 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,680 pair, Scott, in the Louisville game, Indiana was like an 160 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,160 accordion. Like there were moments where 161 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,480 they were giving good effort, they were playing well. 162 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,880 They they look like they had some flow on offense. 163 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,040 They look like they knew what they were doing defensively and 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,600 then you could go to the next possession, the next half 165 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,320 possession. And Indiana looked like they had 166 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,320 no clue what they were doing, had no idea what they were 167 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,440 supposed to be doing, had no idea how to defend, had no idea 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,320 how to pass. And they finally, luckily ended 169 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,600 on a streak where they did know what they were doing. 170 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,799 The accordion, I guess, compressed at that point. 171 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,559 And they were like, Oh yeah, we actually are the better team 172 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,760 here. But that combination in concert 173 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,400 with what we've seen already up to this point of the year, I 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,920 think really highlights to me there's two major problems with 175 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,520 this team. You know, one of them is kind of 176 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,920 a micro problem, which is that individual players are so 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 inconsistent in what they're doing and how they're doing it. 178 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,320 And there's almost nobody that you can point to on this team 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,600 and say that guy is going to play well for 40 minutes in any 180 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,240 given game. So that's that and that's that's 181 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,640 a big micro problem, but it's really like a bunch of 182 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,520 individual problems that happen to be in the same pack. 183 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,360 The the The larger problem, though, is Indiana looks so 184 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,120 rigid in everything that they do like their players, just 185 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,520 fundamentally after watching them up close for for really the 186 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,160 last three games, because I've been to the last three, when 187 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,560 things are going great, players do generally seem to have an 188 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:33,880 idea of what they're supposed to do. 189 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,840 And the moment things tilt slightly off axis, this team 190 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,320 looks like it has zero clue how to adapt. 191 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,600 They have zero clue how to deal with adversity, adversity. 192 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,640 They have zero clue how to handle it when a player they're 193 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,560 expecting to be there isn't there or or isn't having a good 194 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:51,400 game. Both of those are really big 195 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,360 concerns Scott, but and you know I think you can maybe fix the 196 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,200 individual issues. I I think that, you know, we've 197 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,080 even seen a little bit of that and we'll talk about some of the 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,000 individual players as we go down the stretch here. 199 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,240 But man, that macro issue, this team looks like a 0 Unity, 0 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,600 cohesion that you know, they are reliant on individual guys 201 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,080 getting hot and doing things. They look nothing like A-Team at 202 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,520 this point. And it's still early. 203 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,000 I mean, we've still got quite, you know, there's 1/6 of the 204 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:26,600 season essentially is over. But man, to be at this point and 205 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,680 not look like you really know what you're doing as a unit, you 206 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:33,000 know, all the people that I've talked to you and I have talked 207 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,320 about it like that's where the alarm bells are going off for 208 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,640 me. I don't know how fixable that's 209 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,040 going to be down the stretch. Yeah, I mean I came away with 210 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 with with kind of SO2 high level thoughts as well. 211 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,440 I think the Correlator between the Yukon and the Arizona game 212 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,560 from the from the year before is is apartment here's, you know 213 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,080 last year. What we were kind of fighting 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,760 all year was who was going to be our third scores? 215 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,200 Like you knew Trace, Jackson, Davis, you Jalen Hood, Chaffino. 216 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,600 And then it was like, you know, once Xavier went down, it's 217 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,240 like, who's going to be that third score? 218 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,120 And it was like it was race some nights, but it wasn't race some 219 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,080 nights, you Miller, Cobb and like that. 220 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,720 That was always what it felt like last year's team was 221 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,720 missing was who's that third person going to be? 222 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,560 I felt that a lot during the Connecticut game. 223 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,280 Although the trouble is like the 2 scores. 224 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,640 With last year like Trace, Jackson, Davis, just you were 225 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,280 going to get what you were going to, You could guarantee on him 226 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,400 giving you a 100 plus offensive rating game with, you know, 22 227 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,760 points and eight rebounds or whatever. 228 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,720 That was a rock solid foundation. 229 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 And you Jalen Hood. Chaffino, even on his bad games 230 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,600 is going to be good. It's like that game against 231 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Connecticut. You had Khalil Ware. 232 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,360 You had Malik Renew. That's kind of all you had 233 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,800 going. You know Xavier got into foul 234 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,520 trouble but like that is you know, you know an ability is 235 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,400 availability. Like he gets into foul trouble 236 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,200 unfortunately a lot. And then you saw it similarly in 237 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,280 the Louisville game it's like you have two players. 238 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,480 This is my my one fear for this team is we saw it last year. 239 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,200 You need three guys to kind of get things going. 240 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,960 I'm not sure I can trust any of our guys right now to be the two 241 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,280 to get going. Like when you look at Xavier 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,720 Johnson this year, you know he's. 243 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,240 He had foul trouble like his, you know, outside of Florida, 244 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,680 Gulf Coast, he's had three thousand against Army 3000 245 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:15,960 against Wright State, four against Connecticut, did a 246 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,240 little better, two against Louisville. 247 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,080 But like he's getting into some foul trouble. 248 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,160 You look at, you know, Khalil Ware he's looked really good but 249 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,560 got into foul trouble against Louisville and he had a pretty 250 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:28,120 good game against Connecticut, but didn't shoot, didn't get any 251 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,600 two point field goals like 2 threes and then all from the 252 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,920 free throw line. That's not enough to be like 253 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,360 that's the one guy I'm going to get. 254 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,720 And then Malik renew, I'm with you. 255 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,080 We had a. Great game against Connecticut. 256 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Also had a good game against Louisville, but also he fouled 257 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,800 out of the game against Connecticut and got into four 258 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,040 fouls against Louisville. And while his fouling is not as 259 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,080 bad as it was last year based on positioning, you know that is 260 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,280 one of those things that you look back at. 261 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,120 You know his fouling now is because he's one of the primary 262 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,920 players on offense and defense. And that's looking back like 263 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,240 that was a skill that Trace Jackson Davis had where it's 264 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,640 like, hey, I can shoulder 90% of the load. 265 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,080 And then also not get into foul trouble. 266 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,760 That the other thing I will say the other high level point is, 267 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:12,880 you know, I was talking to a couple people about this. 268 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:18,400 You don't need to hit a bunch of threes to win games, but then 269 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,640 you have to be doing other things at a very high level And 270 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,200 to leave New York. This team in two games goes 4 271 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,240 from 24 for three from three. That's 16%. 272 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:33,120 They played OK defense against the two teams from three that 273 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,080 they played. You know Louisville and and 274 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,200 Yukon combined went 12 from 4112 for 41. 275 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,960 But the the staff that scare me there is not only that we shot 276 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,160 16% but that other teams playing modern basketball are shooting 277 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,360 41 threes in two games. For us to only take 24 is not 278 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,640 ideal. To only hit 4 is really, like, 279 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,480 unbelievably trouble. Well, OK, I'm going to start 280 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,760 with that, but there's a much larger point. 281 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,520 I want to get to that. She goes back to your Trace 282 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Jackson Davis point. So on the three-point thing, 283 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:09,160 look, they hit 1/3 in that Louisville game and it. 284 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,400 I went back and watched the game when I got home today and some 285 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,360 of that was bad luck. Mackenzie and Bako had some good 286 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 looks. They were good shots. 287 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,280 He didn't hit the shots. That's going to happen. 288 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,400 What's concerning is that everybody isn't hitting the 289 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,880 shots from three. And yes, they're not taking as 290 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,200 many, but this is where I push back on. 291 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,880 You know, as much as I don't like the fact that Indiana isn't 292 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,320 taking more threes, it's because Indiana does not look like a 293 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,240 team that is capable of hitting those threes. 294 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,320 And at this point, and and look, there's a whole separate 295 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,440 conversation to be had about why Indiana has a roster that can't 296 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,560 hit the threes. And it actually ties into the 297 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,960 point that I'm about to make. But realistically speaking, just 298 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,120 firing threes for the purpose of firing threes when you can't hit 299 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,400 the threes, when your guys are either not physically capable of 300 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,800 hitting the threes or mentally capable of thinking they're 301 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 going to hit the shots, would be truly stupid. 302 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Like Louisville last night, You know, this is the thing that, 303 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,240 you know, I would love it if Indiana would would have offense 304 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,160 that would be able to be run for shots. 305 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Nobody's proven that. They're able to hit the shots 306 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,520 right now and that's a separate thing. 307 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,160 That's a roster building thing. But this team right now is 308 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,480 shooting 23.4% from the three-point line on the season 309 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,720 under under 25%. Scott, it's 300 and 42nd in the 310 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,920 nation. They shouldn't be shooting. 311 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:42,280 Threes, so far, they shouldn't be shooting threes, but you know 312 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,120 that's because they don't have the players on the roster who 313 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,560 are capable of hitting the threes. 314 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,880 And I think Mike Woodson has had to just say internally, I have 315 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,800 to design an offense around the fact that I have a roster full 316 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,040 of people that I created, Not me, but Mike Woodson, I created 317 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,920 this roster. I'm to blame for that. 318 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,080 But I got to essentially make chicken salad out of this 319 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,920 because there's not a lot that you can do at this point. 320 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,480 It's it's November 21st, like you can't go back into the 321 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,080 portal and get a guard. You can't go back into the the 322 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,040 recruiting process and get a A you know the rules are. 323 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Weird. Now, I don't know. 324 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,480 But you know, that's a great point. 325 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,000 You know, you, you know now and I know there's people who have 326 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,600 been like, well, see, they should have gotten more guards. 327 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,560 Here's where I think that I'll push back on that. 328 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,840 And this is where I have a little bit of sympathy for Mike 329 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Woodson through the first five games. 330 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,360 To me, a lot of attention has been paid to Mackenzie Mbako, 331 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,120 and I get it. And he has been at times an 332 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,480 absolute zero on defense. He has been at times just not 333 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,240 there. Offensively, his offensive 334 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,040 rating is 89. I get it. 335 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,920 But where I think most of the blame lies right now, in the way 336 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,040 that this team is not performing both from the perimeter and 337 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:59,440 overall, is in the 10 years of experience that Indiana is 338 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,080 supposed to have at the two guard positions. 339 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,839 That is frankly not showing up from the beginning of the 340 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,240 season. Xavier Johnson and Trey. 341 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,040 And this is nothing personal with these guys. 342 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,760 But these two, who are among the most experienced players that 343 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,119 you have in the Big 10 at their positions, have simply not 344 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,640 performed at anywhere close to a level that you would need to 345 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,079 have in a season where you're trying to replace the rock of 346 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:28,480 Trace Jackson Davis, who you could rely on consistently to 347 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,720 perform offensively. You know Xavier Johnson, I don't 348 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,480 know if he's injured and he I think he may still be like 349 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,480 having some residual issues from the ankle. 350 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,800 If if it. I hope to some degree that that 351 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,600 is the case because if not he is just simply not been adequate. 352 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,040 He is complaining constantly on the floor. 353 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,040 He is not really doing what needs to be done offensively. 354 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,680 He's throwing a lot of, you know he's throwing passes where they 355 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,920 shouldn't be, whether it's out of bounds or to the wrong 356 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,360 players. He's not driving effectively. 357 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,640 His defense has really been pretty subpar. 358 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,360 I think he's had good moments, but he's had a lot more bad 359 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,520 moments, a lot more bad moments than you would expect from a guy 360 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,200 with his level of experience. Trey Galloway is barely at a 361 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,840 point per possession in offensive rating. 362 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,280 Trey Galloway is shooting 3 for 14 from the three-point line 363 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,840 this season, a season after he shot 46% from the three-point 364 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,480 line. You know, this is where this 365 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,800 entire House of Cards that Indiana constructed around this 366 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,440 roster appeared to be, if I've deduced this properly after the 367 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,680 first five games was that we have two singular talents at the 368 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,720 four and the five in Malik Renew and Khalil Ware and those guys. 369 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,480 I mean Malik Renew. Honestly, I don't think he's 370 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,520 getting the plaudits that he deserves, not just for his 371 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,560 scoring. I mean he's he's shooting 68% 372 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,680 from the field. That's that's tremendous. 373 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,480 Or 68% from 2. He's actually shooting slightly 374 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,120 less than that 'cause he's missed some 3 pointers. 375 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,120 He is 100 and 89th in the country. 376 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,400 And assist rate, he's got an assist rate of almost 27%. 377 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,680 You know, he has been essentially the IT was amazing 378 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,640 just going in the post and like just making plays. 379 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,320 He was unbelievable. He's essentially had to be the 380 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,000 point guard playing at the four because the guards that are 381 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,400 supposed to be doing that, the experienced people who are 382 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,120 supposed to be running the offense, have not been capable 383 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,840 of running it the way that it needs to be run. 384 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,720 And then defensively, he's getting a lot of times hung out 385 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,960 to dry because those same guards aren't stopping penetration, and 386 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,120 he's having to defend two people at once. 387 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:36,280 Khalil Ware is still kind of learning how to play in this 388 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,600 system. That said, he's one of the more 389 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,120 efficient players that you're seeing in the country right now 390 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,480 in terms of usage. He's actually rebounding at a 391 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,680 really high level. You know, defensively, offense 392 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,480 is a different story. We'll talk about that in a 393 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,560 minute. He's not turning the ball over. 394 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Like, I don't know what else those guys are supposed to do. 395 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,920 And the Just as I looked at it over the course of the last 120 396 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,600 minutes of basketball, I'm just stupefied. 397 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,920 That have all of the things on this roster that aren't working. 398 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,040 The two people who are the most experienced who should be 399 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,960 carrying the load have just not been able to do so. 400 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,800 And then you got to throw in. CJ Gunn has not performed. 401 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:23,240 CJ Gunn is on the season seven for 17 from 2 and O for four 402 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,120 from three. He is now 2 for 28 from three. 403 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:31,640 In his career at IU his offensive rating is 67.7 which 404 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,120 that's real bad Scott like that's that's you. 405 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 That's almost unplayable. You know Gabe Cups I feel bad 406 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,360 for Gabe Cups has had to play a lot. 407 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,320 Gabe Cups is not capable of of contributing right now as an as 408 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 a guard from an offensive perspective and he's really 409 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,480 starting to get found out on defense as we saw in the two 410 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,520 games in New York City. So you know when I when I think 411 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,320 about the problems that are present with this team, I think 412 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840 about a lot of the micro issues and we've talked about some of 413 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,280 them. But the big issue is this team 414 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,920 isn't going to run unless the the senior guards can go out 415 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,640 there, give 30 plus minutes a game, play well on both ends of 416 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,200 the floor, set the tempo, hit shots and put people in the 417 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,600 right position. And frankly, until that happens, 418 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,440 or unless that happens, I don't know what the path is for 419 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,200 Indiana this season and and for the people who are like you 420 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,760 needed to get another guard in the portal. 421 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,120 That would have been nice. But if honestly, you could have 422 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,960 gotten another guard in the portal, and if Johnson and 423 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Galloway, who you were counting on to be your primary people, 424 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,520 were performing at this level, it wouldn't matter who the other 425 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,240 guard was in the portal. You would still have, I think, a 426 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,840 lot of the same issues. Yeah, I mean, Trey Galloway 427 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,880 played 32 minutes. Against Louisville and had a 30 428 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,480 offensive rating. He didn't. 429 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,240 He didn't. Score until like the eight the 9 430 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,440 minute mark of the game and it was on a it was on a tip steel 431 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,720 like Dr. Layup off of a block that Caleb Banks got. 432 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,600 I mean yeah. Go on. 433 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Sorry. No. 434 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,880 No. Yeah. 435 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,920 And I mean I'll say this like I I feel bad. 436 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,280 This is always my joke in the in the offseason it's always like 437 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,880 man we have too much depth. We're going to How are we going 438 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,360 to find time for these guys? Like it always? 439 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,480 It always turns into where we're at now. 440 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,920 But I I feel bad for, like, you know, for for CJ Gunn in this 441 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,800 respect that he's being thrown in, Like, if I would have told 442 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,880 you, you know, 2 1/2 months ago, it's like, hey, we play 443 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Connecticut. CJ Gunn's playing 20 minutes. 444 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,760 You'd be like, what happened? Did the team get arrested, like 445 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,200 in New York? Like, like he's being put into a 446 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,760 position where he's having to play more than he should. 447 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,600 And then, you know, Caleb Banks played really well against 448 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,720 Louisville. But this is where I do feel 449 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,600 uncomfortable. It's like. 450 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,880 He played 25 minutes against Louisville last season. 451 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,480 He only played more than 10 minutes five times and he had 452 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,560 more. Did not plays than more than 10 453 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,120 minute a games. Playing like you, you can't 454 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,240 expect to get 25 minutes and 130 offensive rating out of Caleb 455 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,040 Banks. Every game, maybe, but like 456 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,880 every game moving forward. And this is, this is the. 457 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,440 I mean, when I left those games, it's just like. 458 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,400 Kind of exactly what you were saying is like when one thing 459 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,520 goes wrong, whether it's Xavier having a bad game or getting in 460 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,400 foul trouble or Mackenzie and Baku, you know, not playing 461 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,440 defense well or getting in foul trouble or even, you know any of 462 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 the starting five getting in foul trouble. 463 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,920 It it becomes a very tenuous bench very quickly. 464 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,480 And it's just a lot of people that like I'm not even sure who 465 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,960 I can trust on the starting line up. 466 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,600 And then you get to the bench and it's like then you're 467 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,040 getting a lot of minutes of CJ gun and you look at. 468 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280 You know Woodson and it's like, you know guns not shooting well. 469 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,280 But I don't. Where else could you go? 470 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,440 Like at that point, it's like Xavier is in foul trouble. 471 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,600 Like who else are you going to put in Like it got real thin 472 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800 real quick. I will say I I'm not as 473 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,680 sympathetic towards gun. I mean gun gun was gun averaged 474 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,560 23 points a game for a pretty good high school program in 475 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,600 Indianapolis or like Lawrence whatever, you know he's the all 476 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,360 time leader in Lawrence N history and points per game 477 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,200 average. He was a, you know, I I don't 478 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,760 know I don't like a super heralded recruit but he was at 479 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,800 least a recruit that people thought was going to come in. 480 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,320 We've got people, you know, constantly saying CJ Gunn's just 481 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,240 like one shot away from really getting it going and meanwhile 482 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,600 and again, open. Shots in New York they were not 483 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,320 even close He and and this is it's it's not that he's not 484 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,000 capable of hitting all the time but he'll hit a shot. 485 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 There was a nice in that second-half there was like a 486 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,800 nice curl off of a baseline out of bounds play that he hit a 487 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,960 shot off of. Nice looking shot. 488 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,440 Had the same shot a minute later. 489 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,360 Bricked it. And you know what worries me 490 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:36,080 about Dunn is, you know, if if he's not capable of 491 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,160 contributing, then he's not capable of contributing. 492 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,960 But I think a lot of the calculus of the season was this 493 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,360 is a guy who's going to take a leap in the offseason. 494 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:46,440 You know, you could make the argument OK well, last year he 495 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,760 didn't have, you know, a clear pathway because Tamar Bates was 496 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,520 clearly in front of him. You know Jalen Hitchafino, you 497 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,280 know you had obviously Miller Cop had to get minutes and and 498 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,360 was a key player out there. Trey Galloway was getting a lot 499 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,280 more minutes and was a lot more efficient offensively. 500 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,480 And the fact that was we talked about with the lead guards 501 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,840 you've got a problem. But then that the fact that gun 502 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,320 I would argue is actually taking a little bit of a step back. 503 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,320 I mean you know for the season last year Gun's offensive rating 504 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,600 was really bad. It was 78.8. 505 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,120 And you know, for those of you who don't understand offensive 506 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:27,320 rating, if you're at 100 you are averaging a point scored per 507 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,600 possession used. Which isn't. 508 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,080 I mean, that's really kind of if you're not at that minimum, 509 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,000 you're not doing particularly well. 510 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Trace Jackson Davis for comparison, last year was 511 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,120 scoring on about about 1.2 points per possession that he 512 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,320 used. Which is really, really good for 513 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280 gun. To go from a 78.8 offensive 514 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,240 rating to a 67 percent offensive rating is real bad. 515 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Gunn last year from two, shot 48 percent, 15 of 31. 516 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,720 So far this year, he's shooting 41% from 2, seven of 17. 517 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,040 Now, does that mean that CJ Gunn's not going to figure it 518 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,240 out this year? Of course not. 519 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,760 But he hasn't figured it out yet when he's gotten a significantly 520 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,600 larger amount of minutes. He's played about three times as 521 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,480 many minutes so far through this season than he played last year. 522 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,680 And I'm just not seeing the signs here, Scott. 523 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,600 I mean, it is, it is really starting to to concern me. 524 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280 And when you plug that into the much larger issue of the fact 525 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,800 that Indiana's just not getting consistent guard play and gun, 526 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,880 from what we've seen out of him is not a guy that can initiate 527 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040 offense. He's a guy who is supposed to be 528 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,000 on the receiving end of the initiation. 529 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,080 I I, you know, if he can't hit shots, that's a real, real 530 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,040 concern and yeah, go ahead. No, no I was, I mean the the the 531 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,960 other thing too is you know you're you're take we are taking 532 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,240 a lot out of these two games. But the the issue is it's all we 533 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,880 have to go with. But you had three games against 534 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,640 very subpar teams to start the season and they really 535 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,400 underperformed in all three of those games where it's like man 536 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,440 that they don't look great, you know against these teams and it 537 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800 wins better than a loss. But it would have been nice to 538 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,800 have one of those games where it felt like you had it under 539 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,440 control and you never did. And then you come here and you 540 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920 play 2 high level opponents and you you. 541 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,680 Get, you know, wiped off the court basically by one of the, 542 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,240 you know, top 15 teams in the country and then a team that 543 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,440 Louisville, I mean, we'll see what they do, but they're ranked 544 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,760 100. I mean, they're they're ranked 545 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,080 right in the area of Wright State right now. 546 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,520 They're right below Harvard, who Indiana plays next. 547 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,680 But but they had trouble, you know, kind of closing out 548 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Louisville and they had to really, you know, do some odd 549 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,520 things to get there. And you know, you're you're 550 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,080 right about the shooting the three. 551 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,880 I'm not saying Indiana needs to shoot more threes. 552 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,320 I'm just. The the the trouble is you know 553 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,720 the the question always was you know is is is this offense built 554 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,120 around chase tracks and Davis you know or is it because of the 555 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,280 personnel you have and definitely looks like we have 556 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240 another season we don't have the personnel to shoot threes. 557 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,800 That the the trouble is you know most of the game is going to 558 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560 people shooting threes. So it's like a lot of. 559 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,080 Whether you can have a really efficient offense or not, like 560 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,280 if a team gets hot from 3:00 and you're not a three-point 561 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,440 shooting team, you're kind of screwed. 562 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Like it's just that you're not going to win that game in 563 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840 today's basketball. But what allowed IU to get away 564 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800 with the last two years is you had just an unbelievably 565 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960 efficient player in the post and right now it just doesn't look 566 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,480 like we have those efficient players or the ability to get 567 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520 them the ball. We're not rebounding at a good 568 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,800 clip. Like if you're not going to 569 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,640 shoot threes or you're going to shoot 10 or 11 a game and make 570 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,040 two or three. You've got to be way above 571 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,040 average in like rebounding or efficiency or steals or 572 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,200 Turner's. You have to do something better 573 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,920 or. And that's what really worries 574 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,000 me is that I don't see where we have that one guy who's just 575 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,240 going to crush it or the one thing we're really good at. 576 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,440 We seem to be kind of average everywhere else. 577 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,360 And then we don't shoot shoot threes well. 578 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,240 And it's like that's a really bad recipe. 579 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Well, look, there are some things Indiana does well. 580 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,080 I mean, they they do shoot twos really well. 581 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,400 They're they're shooting 58 1/2 percent from 2:00 so far this 582 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,920 season. That's good. 583 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600 They're getting to the free throw line, the second most of 584 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,680 any team in the country. That's good. 585 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200 I mean, they're getting to the free throw line on 59% of their 586 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,880 field goal attempts. That's nuts. 587 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,720 Like the amount of fouls this team draws is is really way up 588 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,720 there now. They're not. 589 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,800 They're, I don't think they're converting at a high enough 590 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,440 average to really make that worth it, you know, and that's 591 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,720 something that we hope will improve. 592 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,520 They did look like they were shooting fruit throws better in 593 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,080 New York City so maybe that will carry back over to Assembly 594 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Hall. But look I get what you're 595 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,880 saying and I think there's two separate issues. 596 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,360 I don't know that the style of play is being. 597 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800 I don't think that the. I don't think that the style of 598 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,400 play is a a choice. I think the style of play is 599 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,560 being dictated by the personnel. Agreed and and that's a separate 600 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280 issue. But again, it's like you know 601 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520 the the problem. And then it sounds like I'm just 602 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480 like defending Woodson Here. I look, Woodson should have done 603 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,720 better. But when you've got players who 604 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,760 are supposed to be able to shoot from deep, supposed to be 605 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,360 initiating the offense, supposed to be able to drive and set 606 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320 people up, supposed to be able to enforce spacing and they're 607 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,760 not. I don't know, like I'm not sure 608 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,320 what you do at that point. As a coach. 609 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240 You could say, well yes let's go get people out of the portal. 610 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,680 But you're not bringing starters in for the one or the two 611 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,320 because your your starters were the guys that were coming back 612 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,920 from last year, you know. So what are you what are you 613 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,960 sweetening the pot with? Are you saying, well, no, sorry, 614 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040 five star guy that we got from Duke. 615 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,480 We're not going to play you because we're going to get this, 616 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,440 you know, three star or sub three star guy who is a, you 617 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,720 know, A6465 guy. We're going to play him instead. 618 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,520 That's probably not going to happen either. 619 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,760 So it this is like the worst case scenario for what could 620 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000 have happened with this roster set up. 621 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Woodson still deserves the blame and and the coaching staff I 622 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,880 think should have been able to figure something out whether 623 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120 it's pushing the pace. They've actually pushed the pace 624 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,160 a lot more than they did last year. 625 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,080 But turning into it just a complete run and gun team, you 626 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,080 know, doing something different with the way that they're 627 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,480 handling their sets. I mean, those things should all 628 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920 be on the table and maybe they'll evolve that way. 629 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,000 I think what they're trying to do right now is say, all right, 630 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320 here's the cards we know we have, we know we have Malik 631 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,120 Renew, we know we have Khalil Ware who's good about 6570% of 632 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,720 the time, we're hoping that we can coax Mackenzie and Baco to a 633 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,480 point where he can start hitting threes. 634 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,160 I mean, that was the thing I I was actually kind of heartened 635 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,320 by the fact that Mackenzie and Baco, after almost, you know, 636 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,720 fouling out at the beginning of the game, came in and took some 637 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,840 threes. He they did that against Wright 638 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760 State. It didn't work out quite as 639 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,000 well, but I think most people, if you recall, were like, wow, 640 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760 that was actually pretty good. Mackenzie and Baco game in that 641 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,080 he was involved offensively. He scored 13 points in that 642 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760 game, and it's just like he went entirely backwards against 643 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,520 UConn. The fact that he came back in 644 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,680 that Louisville game and in the limited amount of time at least 645 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200 tried to take some shots, I thought was actually a good 646 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,520 thing. I don't think that you can just 647 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,560 relegate that guy to the bench because again, the folks that 648 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,800 are saying run three guards, who and what are you going to get 649 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040 out of them if what you're getting out of your guards right 650 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,840 now is demonstrably worse? I mean for as much as people 651 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,360 have said start CJ Gunn instead of Mackenzie and Bako. 652 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,800 I would just point to the statistics sheet and say please 653 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,000 justify your your thought process here and at this point 654 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,360 Mbacco's five games into his college career. 655 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,280 Gun is a season and five games into his college career. 656 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,760 I I'd love it if gun and is. Again I'm not trying to overly 657 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,360 criticize gun but it's like I don't know what the 658 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240 justification is for playing him right now because he's not 659 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,040 performing when he's been out there and you got a better 660 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,760 chance of jump starting Mbacco I think then you have of letting 661 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,760 guns shoot out of whatever issues he's having. 662 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,960 But then all the the here's the other issue though this is just 663 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360 I I just I didn't want this to turn into just a big complaint 664 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,840 fest Scott. But I think it's interesting 665 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,920 kind of working through this and just talking through it with 666 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,240 you. You know there just needs to be 667 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,280 more consistency people have to be able to come in and do roles. 668 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,040 I was. I was really, really excited 669 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,680 with what we saw out of Caleb Banks in this game against 670 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200 Louisville, yo. Had a an offensive rating of 671 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,840 130, you know, grabbed 8 rebounds, had three blocks, had 672 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,240 three assists, had three steals. Indiana doesn't win against 673 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Louisville without Caleb Banks, but that's the first time we've 674 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,440 seen Caleb Banks have that kind of a game, maybe in an Indiana 675 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,960 uniform. I mean, you might go back to the 676 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Ohio State game at home last year, but that was not really 677 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,280 that close of a game. Like, he was really needed in 678 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,400 this game and he stepped up. Anthony Walker, you know, he was 679 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800 another guy. If Indiana doesn't get what they 680 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,440 got out of him in the Louisville game, they don't win the game. 681 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,520 He, you know, scores 11 points, grabs 7 rebounds, hits 5 for 682 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,000 five from the free throw line, you know, plays 20 minutes. 683 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,400 That's the first time we've really seen Anthony Walker look 684 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,440 like a guy that you could keep on the floor for a long period 685 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000 of time. Are those signs of things to 686 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,679 come or were those just blips on the radar? 687 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,920 I guess what worries me is it feels like the evidence is like, 688 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,679 no, those were going to be blips on the radar. 689 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040 And I hope we're there. I hope we're that that's not the 690 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,440 case. I hope that this is actually 691 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,040 something that jump starts some consistency out of those guys 692 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,639 because it looks like Indiana's going to need it. 693 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,560 But right now, all we've got is that one game out of those two 694 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,760 guys, and it came against the Louisville team that frankly 695 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,920 isn't the greatest from a defensive perspective. 696 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,440 The other person I want to highlight, talk about everybody, 697 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,679 every person I want to highlight is Peyton Sparks because I think 698 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,800 his his game against UConn. The stat sheet doesn't look 699 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,360 great, but I I thought he played really well for what he was 700 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,960 asked to do in EU Conn game. And then his stat sheet again 701 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,639 doesn't look. I don't think his stats are ever 702 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,639 going to look awesome, but he's a guy who comes in and does 703 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,440 exactly what he needs. He's he's very physical. 704 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,679 He's like a rock down there. He he put some bodies on people 705 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,760 and his numbers against Louisville, I mean 4459 points. 706 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,400 He he did exactly what he needs, I thought. 707 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,000 He was good in both of the games. 708 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,800 I hear what you're saying. You know, my hope is that 709 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440 between the three of them, because you look at Walker's, 710 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,520 you know, numbers for Miami last year and he only had, you know, 711 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,360 one game where he had double figure points and that was 712 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,400 against Saint Francis, the 336 team in the country. 713 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,240 You know, some of that is based on that was a pretty loaded 714 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:25,320 Miami team and he wasn't getting a ton of minutes. 715 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,640 But you know, my hope is it's like he has a little more 716 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,120 experience and a lot of the guys we're talking about, my hope 717 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,880 would be between Sparks, Walker and Banks of that three headed 718 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,520 monster. One of those guys is going to 719 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,760 have a game where he plays well and then you can kind of lean on 720 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,480 him during that game. I I feel like of those three, 721 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520 honestly. Feels like Peyton Sparks is the 722 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,280 most consistent of what he's going to bring you is that you 723 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,720 can put him in for 1520 minutes a game or 15 minutes a game, I 724 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,480 should say. And he's going to not. 725 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,840 And he's going to play physical without fouling and give you 726 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,040 some points and and give you some good defense. 727 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,840 And so you know, you hope between Walker and and Banks is 728 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,520 one of them can have a little bit of that offensive outburst 729 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,360 that that you need. But again, it's like now we're 730 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880 back into that same and we have that same problem last year 731 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,120 where it's like who's going to be to step up and like some 732 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,160 games no one does and some games like, you know, 80% here and 733 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,040 five. Percent there. 734 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,680 And it's like, and that was all based on two guy, you know and 735 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,120 even Jalen Hood Schaffino, you go back and look at like he was 736 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,040 inconsistent. Also last year he was really 737 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,520 good, but he also had some inconsistencies. 738 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,160 Tracy is the only one who was a rock. 739 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000 So it's like we're back to this, like trying to find even who's 740 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,080 our number two guy. Yeah, well, look, you're going 741 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,960 to get inconsistent performances out of young players. 742 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,520 And that's just how it is. And this is, I guess, where my 743 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,880 concern is really with the guards, because you have to get 744 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,280 consistent performances out of those guys. 745 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,800 There's no reason for there not to be consistent performances 746 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,880 out of people with the veteran presence that both of them have 747 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,960 that they've seen so much, they've been on these teams. 748 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,040 And again, I'm not saying that it's not going to happen. 749 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,360 I'm saying it hasn't happened yet. 750 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,960 And I think that's the the, the root cause of a lot of the 751 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,840 issues that we're seeing this team and I. 752 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,240 And I guess that maybe is why I'm not like, I'm not so 753 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,680 panicked about the season that I'm like, well, gosh, this is it 754 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,120 like the there. It's hopeless. 755 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,880 As as we did talk to a few people who felt that way out in 756 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,960 New York. But I do worry right now, you 757 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,720 know, as I go back to my original comments, unless, 758 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,480 unless Johnson and Galloway can between themselves get a handle 759 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,760 on this team and say here's how we're going to play and we're 760 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,200 going to be the ones that are leading it. 761 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,600 We're the ones that are enforcing what's going on 762 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,080 offensively and defensively. We're going to set the temp, but 763 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,800 we're going to have good games more often than not. 764 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,320 We're going to keep our cool. We're not going to complain to 765 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960 the referees constantly. You know, we're going to take 766 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,960 shots when we have openings, not just stand there timidly at the 767 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,000 three-point line. Not sure what to do. 768 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,760 And in in telling, unless that happens, the idea that Malik 769 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,080 Renew and Khalil Ware are going to somehow be able to lead this 770 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,760 team to success from the baseline doesn't seem really 771 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,600 plausible to me. And, you know, last year's team 772 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,120 was kind of wonky. I mean, you know, some people 773 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120 didn't like it. You know, they they, they liked 774 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,680 some of the results. But I think a lot of people were 775 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,640 a bit dissatisfied with just how it felt on a night in, night out 776 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,840 basis and there were a lot of games where they just kind of 777 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,760 felt a little junky offensively. And I, you know, I get that. 778 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,680 But last year's team, there was some cohesion even even when 779 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,200 Xavier Johnson went out where you felt like there was a plan 780 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,480 that was being executed. And, you know, Jalen Hoochafino 781 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,960 developed so well down the stretch that it really helped to 782 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120 make it work. And you know, if most people, if 783 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,840 you remember that swoon that happened at the very beginning 784 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,320 of Big 10 play, that's about the closest I can come to thinking 785 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,560 about a period of time that reminds me of what Indiana's 786 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,400 going through right now. That period right after Johnson 787 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,880 gets injured at Kansas and before Jalen Hitchafina would 788 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,600 really kind of got in his head wrapped around the idea that he 789 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,720 was going to have to be the leader. 790 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,040 And frankly, before you know, Trey Galloway really got his 791 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,600 head wrapped around the fact that he was going to have to be 792 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,160 an every night performer. You know, IU look like they were 793 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,320 going to struggle that whole season and then they figured it 794 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680 out and turned it around. That's the one thing that I 795 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,920 guess I'm positive about is that if that that light can go off, 796 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,840 there's no reason why this can't turn into a successful or 797 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,360 reasonably successful season. This this team clearly, you 798 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,520 know, as much as we talked about ceilings, this team has a lower 799 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,000 ceiling than we thought and that's fine. 800 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,520 OK. You know, it's unfortunate, but 801 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,120 that's that's the way it is. But if the guards don't figure 802 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,120 it out, the ceilings going to get significantly lower and that 803 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,640 I think is probably what we should be worried about at this 804 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,960 stage. And then that's what I'll be 805 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,240 watching as we move. Forward. 806 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,680 No, I think those are all fair points. 807 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,400 I think your points on on Xavier Johnson are valid. 808 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,640 I mean it's as as a six year senior like you need him to lead 809 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,000 this team, have a clear head. One of those fouls against 810 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Connecticut was just totally bunk. 811 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,440 That got him, you know, got him his third foul and put him on 812 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,160 the bench. But. 813 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,360 It's like, you know, what's interesting is like he, he also 814 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,400 needs to be the one to kind of step up and be like, look, he 815 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,600 should be probably of of all the people, he should be shooting 816 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,360 more threes. He's shooting 50% this year. 817 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,200 He's been, you know 3837%, you know to be the third leading, 818 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,880 you know, #3 on taking threes like that needs to change 819 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,280 immediately like either in Baco or Gallo and you start hitting 820 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,440 him for me to stop taking them because they're they're a 821 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,840 combined what, 4 for like 27 from three. 822 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,880 You know. So Xavier needs to either step 823 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,560 that up or do more of it. But no, I agree. 824 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,320 You know, you look at Johnson, you look at Galloway like as 825 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,240 your leaders. I don't think anybody was 826 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:55,120 expecting, you know kind of as much kind of you know uneven 827 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,520 play out of them. But you know, I, I, I'm on the 828 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,880 positive side. Khalil Ware is really good. 829 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,040 We just got to find other ways to get him the ball. 830 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,800 But honestly too he he can pop out and probably shoot a little 831 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,280 bit more like he's some. You know, this is where Woodson 832 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,800 kind of has to have almost ear blinders on. 833 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,960 Some people like when I'm talking about not shooting 834 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,480 threes like hey clear and Xavier's not for you guys. 835 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,880 Like you guys can pop because there's a couple couple shots in 836 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,720 that Louisville game where Ware was open and kind of hesitated 837 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:27,400 and passed off. Like, no man, you can shoot and 838 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,720 it's only three for seven but 42% for the year, like he can 839 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,880 shoot those. We've got to find more unique 840 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,320 ways to get him the ball so I'm I'm you know I I love this I 841 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,880 love this low post kind of off you know we've become like you 842 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,840 know Penn State was like linebacker you like we've become 843 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,160 like you know big man you it feels like we're really 844 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,160 developing big guys your points about we just need some some 845 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,120 guards to to get the ball to us I'm I I'm with you on the swoon 846 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,960 as well that the only concern is after Harvard comes another 847 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,920 rough part of the schedule and and we've always you and I have 848 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,440 both been on the same page things could start off rough and 849 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,480 they could get better but you know if if you end up you know 850 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,000 losing Maryland Michigan Auburn Kansas you you can get to a 851 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,480 point where you start off almost too low to even get recoverable 852 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,760 come January February. Well, fortunately, Maryland's 853 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,720 bad right now, and I'm not as worried about that game. 854 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,720 But that said, if Indiana doesn't start playing better, 855 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,640 they they could lose to Harvard. Let you know I'm not, you're not 856 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960 even getting to the Maryland and Michigan and Auburn games. 857 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,080 But yeah, look, I'm, I'm glad to some degree that the heat is 858 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,920 going to stay on this IU team because I think you could get 859 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,600 some fool's gold if you were getting that Morehead State, 860 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,720 North Alabama, Kennesaw State stretch now, you would think, 861 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,560 oh, we've solved a lot of these issues when you clearly haven't. 862 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,360 And ultimately. You could lose all of those 863 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,720 games. Not the Harvard game, but you 864 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:01,000 could lose all. You could lose all those 865 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360 remaining games and it wouldn't be unrecoverable, you know, I 866 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,480 mean, losing, losing to Kansas, losing to Auburn, losing to 867 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,800 Michigan. It's it's really, at this point, 868 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,040 it's like, can you get the plane lined up with the runway so that 869 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,280 you can actually land the thing down the stretch? 870 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,600 And it seems implausible when you watch how Indiana played 871 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,800 against Louisville, but it's. Until it's off the until you, 872 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440 until you're not capable of doing anything with the season 873 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,400 anymore. I'll choose to believe that 874 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,040 they'll figure something out as they move forward. 875 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,320 But man, there's just got to be a lot of changes. 876 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,920 And that's that is a real concern that the defense was 877 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,080 actually better than. I think people really realized 878 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,800 it was against both Louisville and Connecticut. 879 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,600 But the offense just. Just clearly wasn't good enough 880 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440 in either game. And the fact that Indiana had to 881 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,960 go to a junk zone with like 4 minutes to go to pull out a game 882 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,520 against a Louisville team who has not exactly lit the world on 883 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,320 fire over the course of the last several seasons, and 884 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,920 particularly the last couple of seasons. 885 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,120 If you're if you're just like, ready to give up on the season 886 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,520 right now because you don't think it's going to be 887 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,200 recoverable, I don't know that I can necessarily blame you. 888 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640 At this point I'll take the the the opposite approach of that is 889 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,520 that you think they had, they had to go to zone but whatever 890 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,960 maybe maybe this team has to play somes up maybe just the way 891 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,400 the team is constructed. But you know you had a point 892 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,760 there where you know it it with about 16 minutes to go, 14 893 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,680 minutes to go in the second-half you were an 83%, you know win 894 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,200 probability you're up 48 to 42. Within 5 minutes you're suddenly 895 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,960 down 60 to 55 and and you know this is they know they shouldn't 896 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,960 be losing to Louisville. Like, I mean suddenly you're 897 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,040 looking at the six minutes left, you're down by six or five. 898 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,640 A-Team could have folded there like I think in that swoon we 899 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600 saw, I think it was Penn State last year on the road where it 900 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,160 just they got down and then it just Penn State poured it on, 901 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,800 you know. So the flip side of this is, 902 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,080 yes, they had to go to a zone, but hey, like I said, maybe they 903 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,680 got to go zone this year. They finished on A13-O run like 904 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,800 staring into an abyss of losing Louisville and having some real 905 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,040 problems to start this season. They did turn it around. 906 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520 They did what they had to do and they won the game and they won 907 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,720 it by 8. I guess Louisville, I mean, I 908 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,560 get, I get it. They did it. 909 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,800 I get it. I'm just saying that's if the 910 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,000 concern there is like the. This is not the kind of team 911 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,000 that you can have that kind of a performance against. 912 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,480 Good credit for them for coming back with the fact that at one 913 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,440 point they were up 46 to 37 and let Louisville go on I think a 914 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,920 20 to six run. To take the lead in the 915 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,080 second-half after having had essentially the game under wraps 916 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,480 a couple of times and let it out again, that is almost as off 917 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,920 balance or like offsetting concerning as the run at the end 918 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,160 of the game to win the game was satisfying. 919 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,320 So we'll see where we land on the scales with that and we'll 920 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,000 talk about it more as we get into this Harvard game. 921 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,120 We'll talk about that obviously on Monday. 922 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,480 Anything else, Scott, before we wrap up? 923 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,560 No, no, it's it's fun and I love, I love the road trip. 924 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,680 So it's I'm happy. I'm happy we did. 925 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,120 It was fun to have two games to go to this year. 926 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,800 The road trip was a lot of fun and hopefully everybody that was 927 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,800 out there had a good time and man, we were lucky, Scott, 928 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,680 because we did not have to listen to that broadcast crew. 929 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,440 While after going back and watching the game, I don't know 930 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,600 how you people at home did it. You know, complete credit to 931 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,760 you, man that was that was a rough broadcast. 932 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,360 So anyways, no, you will. Don't. 933 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,160 Please. If you go back, like put some 934 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,680 light jazz on in the background, just mute the sound. 935 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,600 It's better for you, I promise. Don Fisher dub over is always 936 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,520 the best way to go. Always. 937 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,400 Yeah, always. Anyway, all right, we'll wrap 938 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,120 things up. Thanks to all of you for joining 939 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120 us. We'll have a old Oaken bucket 940 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,360 preview coming up later on this week. 941 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,560 You don't. I'll do it by myself as I've 942 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,960 been doing for the last few weeks. 943 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,280 I just don't want to give you a break around the holidays, but 944 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,880 look out for that Crimson cast women's basketball show just 945 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,360 dropped. Be sure to check that out as 946 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,320 well, as the ladies are in some interesting action this week 947 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,440 that you'll want to check out, so be sure to tune into that. 948 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,200 And be sure to tune in to our friends across the back home 949 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,440 network, Assembly Call, the Doing the Work podcast Film Room 950 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,600 with Tony Edrano. Lots of great stuff to catch up 951 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,120 on. For all those folks, I'm Galen 952 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,960 Clavio. And for Scott, I'm Galen Clavio. 953 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,800 We'll catch you folks. On the flip side. 954 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,280 Bring back the Bison. So long, everybody.