1 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,800 Music and good evening, folks, and welcome to the first ever 2 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Tuesday night Bison chat. GAIL and Clavio joining you here 3 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,120 as we launch something brand new, a collaboration, the first 4 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,640 of its kind between the Back Home Network and IU Sports 5 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Media. So thrilled to be joining you 6 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,520 here tonight. We've got Joe Cronin from IUSTV 7 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Sports and Big 10 Plus joining us. 8 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,480 We've got Emily Fox behind the scenes producing things and 9 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,760 making all of the magic happen. We're looking forward to talking 10 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 IU football for the next 30 minutes. 11 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,360 We're going to be doing this all throughout the season. 12 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,000 We hope that you will join us. Most of the time we'll be 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,360 online. Sometimes we might be in person, 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,040 so there'll be some opportunities to check out what 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,600 we're doing there. But Joe, first of all, great to 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,200 have you aboard. Thanks for joining on this 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,280 interesting odyssey that we're doing here as we try to bring 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,040 more IU football talk to the masses. 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Yeah, it was really exciting to break ground on this. 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,920 I appreciate you choosing me to be a part of a part of this. 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,240 And football's back. It just it's exciting. 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,920 It was exciting. It was exciting last week, week 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,600 0, when Florida State lost in Dublin. 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,480 It was exciting here in Bloomington. 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,840 There's been a more buzz for IU football in a preseason than 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,400 really any of my time on campus, especially with first year head 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,480 coach Kurt Signetti taking, taking charge of this team. 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,800 And just there's an energy, there's an energy at the 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,800 tailgate fields and it's an exciting for football fans 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,160 across the country. And then I think with IU fans 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,960 especially, there is something to be excited about with this 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,600 2024 season. I've been watching IU football 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,840 for significantly longer than Joe's been alive, so he's here 34 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,520 to bring the optimism. I'm here to temper it with 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,920 occasional cynicism, but also my own optimism because I agree 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,160 with you, Joe. There is a palpable buzz around 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 IU football that we just haven't seen in the past few years. 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,880 It was a little bit like this coming into the 2021 season. 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,400 That did not turn out particularly well. 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,200 And unfortunately, the two years after that didn't turn out well 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,720 either, which is why we find ourselves here at the dawn of 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,440 the new coaching era for IU football with Kurt Signetti at 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,000 the helm. What we're going to do on the 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,240 show tonight, we're going to start off by talking about that 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,000 FIU game. We're going to talk a little bit 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,360 about some of the things that was absolutely exciting and, and 47 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:44,280 revealing about the team in a good way, the things that they 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,080 need to work on, a lot of things to talk through. 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,440 And we've obviously got some feelings that we need to talk 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,120 through with the IU fanbase as well. 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,960 And this is this is where we're kind of landing on things. 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,640 As as Justin just pointed out, IU fans have been duped for ages 53 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:00,480 in the eyes of a lot of folks as far as football is concerned. 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,160 And The thing is, I don't totally disagree. 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Not so much in terms of like being purposely duped, but 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,760 there's been a lot of full starts with IU football and fans 57 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,080 getting excited and we'll talk about that some in future 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,760 episodes. The thing of it is, I do think 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,400 that there's a lot of reason for optimism with Kurt Signetti and 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,760 this staff and what they're doing with IU football. 61 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,040 We're looking forward to talking about it throughout the course 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,560 of this season. Before we get to that, just a 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,360 reminder folks, that the podcast, as with all of the 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,480 podcasts on the Back Home Network, brought to you by Home 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,640 Field Apparel, your place to go for the finest in college 66 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:37,120 fashions, the softest fabrics, the coolest designs like this 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,600 one. And we look forward to having 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,360 you go to homefieldapparel.com. Check out their amazing array of 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,000 college gear. They just launched some coaching 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,080 windbreakers. I don't know, Joe, if you saw 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,640 one of those you, I think that would be right down your alley 72 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,080 from an apparel perspective. But it's tons of T-shirts, long 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,920 sleeve T-shirts, hoodies. We're getting into hoodie 74 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,360 season, unfortunately, but a lot to try out. 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,920 You can use the code home 23, get 15% off your first order 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,320 again, home field to apparel.com. 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 All right, let's let's dive right into the game, Joe. 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,480 So you were at the game. You were able to take in what 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,200 you saw from your media credential. 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,560 I guess maybe before we get into the statistics, what were the 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,200 big things that stuck out to you from that game? 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,600 What did you take away from it the most? 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Yeah, before I jump into the game, are you? 84 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,000 You're upset about hoodie season? 85 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,640 I mean, that means football is football. 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,320 It feels great outside. One of the things that people 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,000 learn about me is, and I'm, I will admit, I am abnormal about 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,480 this. I am, I am the outlier. 89 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,720 I don't really like autumn. I really don't like it when the 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,120 temperature gets cold. I don't like it when the leaves 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,800 fall off the trees. Being in Indiana, it's kind of 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,880 like, it's tantamount to saying I hate tenderloins or I've never 93 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,800 played a hand of euchre in my life. 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,960 But I that's kind of how I feel about about autumn. 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,400 It just doesn't vibe with me the way that spring or summer do. 96 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,040 And so yes, I'm not I I have a ton of hoodies but I don't 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,000 really enjoy hoodie season per SE. 98 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,200 OK, well, I guess agree to disagree in that regards. 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:18,520 But regarding week one season, Oprah against FIU, something 100 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,840 that stood out to me at the start is I was roaming around, 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,440 went to your stop by your tailgate for a brief moment. 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,160 Just there was a buzz. A lot of conversations you'd 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,360 hear walking by was about football. 104 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,200 It wasn't about like what they're doing in three hours. 105 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,280 It was, hey, we go in the game, where's our seat going to be, 106 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,480 stuff like that. Conversations that I guess the 107 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,720 last season, even this year before that weren't talked about 108 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,760 much because this team didn't have much to talk about is A2 in 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,680 10 season 3 and 9 four and eight. 110 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Just not a lot of quality performances and obviously it's 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,960 so early into the year only being one and OA 31 seven beat 112 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,360 down of a Conference USA team isn't a ton to hang your hat on. 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,360 But still, it's just working out some of those early season 114 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,120 kinks. And then the energy at the start 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,720 of the game when when I was getting ready to walk out of the 116 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,160 tunnel, First off, I I was paying attention to coach 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Signetti. He was so locked in as compared 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,200 to back with Tom Allen. He's firing up his guys, tapping 119 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,120 along their helmets, doing the little side to side sway. 120 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Zic just standing there looks at looks at one of the the big 10 121 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,280 network guys is like, can I get a countdown? 122 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:21,800 So for when I actually have to run? 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,400 That's what he said. And then just all serious, all 124 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,640 businesses out there. But the buzz around the stadium 125 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,920 above it student section, it was loud, especially at that start. 126 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,440 And I think it there, that was something that really stood out 127 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,480 was what was that first, first game atmosphere, especially at 128 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,560 the beginning, going to look like. 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 I found and my friends who I was texting with throughout the game 130 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 found Signetti watching to be almost as entertaining as the 131 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,080 game itself, and in a couple of cases more so. 132 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,720 Like it was like wow, he really like it was interesting and and 133 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,840 Scott brought this up on Crimson cast over the weekend. 134 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:55,600 It's like normally, you know, Tom Allen would be jumping in 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,880 everybody's huddle, would be, you know, in every meeting would 136 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,400 be running up and down. Signeting not only was very 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 stoic on the sidelines, but also kind of stood away from 138 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,280 everybody during play, was 20 yards away from where the bulk 139 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:09,840 of people were. Might stick his head in quickly 140 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,040 on offense to say something, but really kind of let everybody do 141 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,880 their own devices. And he was clearly very locked 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,360 in. I mean, everybody's seen the 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,000 video of him with his jaw locked after that penalty. 144 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,160 And it's just like, wow, great. Our coach is a nut job in the 145 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,040 right way. This is this is exactly what 146 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,640 people are looking for. But I also thought it was 147 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,520 interesting just because it was clear from his body language, 148 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,600 from his reactions that he wanted execution from Indiana. 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,000 And he got it in some cases and it was like, all right, that's 150 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,800 what we should be doing. And there were other cases where 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,920 they didn't give that. And it was clearly not something 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,480 that he was excited about seeing. 153 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 And that is a real change of pace. 154 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,360 I mean, you covered the team last year a little bit. 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,320 You saw what what the situation was like. 156 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,920 It just felt different all the way around. 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,720 But it was really interesting to kind of get a chance to see him 158 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,960 on the sidelines for the first time in a live action situation. 159 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Yeah, it was interesting to start to take it in seeing like 160 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,480 a play is happening down on the 40 and he's on the opposite 30 161 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,400 just pacing the other way. And I think part of it has to do 162 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,280 with the fact that Mike Shanahan calls the offensive plays and 163 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Bryant Haynes controls the defense, but also just he's he's 164 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,640 a football guy and he just is so locked in and and he kind of had 165 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,480 to take in the moment. Obviously he has won everywhere 166 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,400 he's been, whether it's been at IU, Pennsylvania, Elon or even 167 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,840 James Madison. It's a new kind of a new 168 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,320 feeling. He's at a power Power 4 level 169 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,320 now considering the the PAC 12 is no longer, but I think there 170 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,640 was probably a little bit of nerves. 171 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,560 He he might not admit it considering the personality he 172 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,240 is, but I think there were nerves, especially for the week 173 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,760 1. I know I think you're right and 174 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,880 I and I think that's a good you would expect that. 175 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,240 I mean, and the guy's been waiting his whole life to have 176 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,480 this type of a, a head coaching opportunity. 177 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,640 So certainly I think there's some of that. 178 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,880 And I think that, you know, you're, there's clearly a lot of 179 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,800 confidence in swagger with Kurt Signetti. 180 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,360 It comes through. But there's also, I think in 181 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,520 any, in any situation where you've got a head coach coaching 182 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:13,920 a new team, especially with the roster build that he had, where 183 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,520 it's like, there's a bunch of guys from my old school, There's 184 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,320 a bunch of guys from the ACC, Here's some guys from the Big 185 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,280 12. Here's the guys that came back 186 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,640 from last year for all of that, you're it's got to be a little 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,000 bit nervous fracking because you really don't know how they're 188 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,200 going to react in a live environment until they're out 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,080 there. But they actually reacted very 190 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,920 well. Let's go ahead and get to 191 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,480 looking at some of the statistics from that game. 192 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,760 And you know, we're going to start right off with the team 193 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,560 box score here and you know, I'm going to zoom in a little bit so 194 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:43,920 we can get a little bit of a better view. 195 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,080 Still some decent technology here. 196 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,640 There we go. So you can see Indiana really 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,960 dominating on offense, and that's as much a story of the 198 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,520 offense as it is the defense. As much as the offense kind of 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,040 got a little bit criticized afterwards for not being more 200 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,240 clinical, for not having more points on the board. 201 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,400 They out gain FIU 414 to 182. They significantly out gain them 202 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,040 on the ground. And just from an offensive 203 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,840 perspective, you got to be happy at least that you're rushing 204 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,440 attack. Is that effective? 205 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:22,160 This was actually the highest total average yards per carry 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,480 for IU in a game against an FBS opponent since Michigan State in 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,560 20/22. It had been a while since they 208 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,760 had really had this level of effectiveness on the ground. 209 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Yeah, and especially the fact that it came with a 1-2 punch of 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,840 the running backs. It was Tyson Lott and getting 211 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,360 the bulk of the carries. He had 16 and punched in two 212 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,600 touchdowns as well, as well as Justice Ellison, transfer from 213 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Wake Forest, had 10 carries for 68 yards. 214 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,000 And we were able to talk to Lawton after the game and all 215 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 the credit he gave was to the offensive line. 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Said they were giving holes. They were giving holes even when 217 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Rourke was pulling it. And that's in regards to an RPO 218 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,160 when he's finding a different read on a short route. 219 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,880 But the offensive line played well, 22 members of the line, it 220 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,680 was Carter Smith and Bray Lynch. They were in the top ten of 221 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:09,000 highest graded run blockers this past week. 222 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,520 So it was the only school that had two in the top ten. 223 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,280 So the offensive line played their tail off, especially on 224 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,840 the ground. I mean, 6 yards per carry, it 225 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,880 doesn't matter who you play, that is going to be an effective 226 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,000 job by that offensive line. And whether it was Ellison or 227 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Lawton, they weren't getting touched until four or five yards 228 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,440 into their into their run. And they're a good contact 229 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,360 running back, so they're able to fall forward, maybe break, so 230 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 they're able to make some good plays on the ground. 231 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Brian Toohey disputing your calls at the PAC 12 is dead. 232 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,160 I'm I'm actually going to side with with Joe on this. 233 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,200 Brian, it's it was a great story the other day actually. 234 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,680 The PAC 12 cannot come to an agreement with the Mountain West 235 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,760 about scheduling like, you know, you're in trouble as a 236 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,160 conference if you can't get the Mountain West to partner with 237 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,440 you on something. But but no, your, your point is 238 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,280 well taken. The running game looked good 239 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:57,800 defensively. This team really showed out. 240 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,760 And I think to me, the big story as we Scroll down to some of the 241 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,360 defensive statistics is how effective IU was. 242 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,520 They they really played about as well as you could expect. 243 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,240 And to me, it was fascinating how effective the defense looked 244 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,920 coming off of the Tom Allen years where Allen obviously 245 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,120 defensive coach, coaching defense at Penn State. 246 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Right now, it's like that's that's a coach. 247 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,920 You would have expected the defense to always be the best 248 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,680 part. But that was sneakily kind of 249 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,440 the undoing of the Allen era was the defense not playing up to 250 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,600 its level of expectation. Meanwhile, you got to feel 251 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,360 pretty good about Aiden Fisher, you know, D Angelo Pons, Jalen 252 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Walker, like this whole group of players coming in from outside 253 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,920 and making this type of a contribution immediately, That 254 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,360 really gives you a lot of confidence in the types of 255 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,280 personnel that Signetti was able to bring in. 256 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,360 It just seemed like there were there were hungry guys at all 257 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,840 three levels of the defense, whether it was guys in the front 258 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,640 with Mikhail Camaro or James Carpenter, both those guys 259 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 coming from JMU. And like you said, Aiden Fisher, 260 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,080 he got a hell of a game. I mean, two tackles for loss, 261 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,240 got himself in the backfield again with a sack, flew around 262 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,880 the field, led the team in tackles. 263 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,600 And then D'Angelo Ponds, Josh Sanguinetti, guys in the 264 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,880 secondary, Sanguinetti returning back from IU from last year. 265 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,840 They had a good game. And Amari Farrell getting his 266 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,440 first interception in an IU uniform as well. 267 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,200 It's just there were guys playing at, once again, all 268 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,320 three levels, and I think they were fired up. 269 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,520 And Bryant Haynes has a pretty good system of physical, 270 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,680 physical outside guys they swarm tackled too. 271 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,680 They wrote a lot of not many broken tackles and it's 272 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:36,680 something that Signetti was asked yesterday about the tackle 273 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:39,280 in Week 1 when you don't tackle all throughout fall and he said 274 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,960 he was he was had pleased with the way his team tackled 275 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,400 considering they had not had a lot of practice doing so. 276 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Kurt Sigetti had some good things to say specifically about 277 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,880 his defense in the post game press conference. 278 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Let's go ahead and hear those comments now. 279 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,520 We'd like to pride ourselves on being real fast and physical and 280 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,320 disruptive upfront and create a lot of different looks for the 281 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,920 defense and being really good against the run. 282 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,920 I think we gave up 53 yards rushing, less than 200 total 283 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,160 yards and we've always been really good against the run and 284 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,680 had TF LS and sex, so it was nice to see that carry over with 285 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:17,240 this group. Yeah, and I think that's one of 286 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,160 the big things. It's not just that they've had 287 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,000 good past success with defense, but to to come in and play that 288 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,040 well. And granted, it's FIU, it's not 289 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,920 a very good team that they were playing against. 290 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,280 But we saw teams play against other teams the caliber of FIU 291 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,280 and not have as good a defensive performance. 292 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,160 And really, I mean, outside of that one drive at the end of the 293 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,200 half where FIU scored, it was almost a flawless defensive 294 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,000 performance. They even picked up an 295 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,640 interception later on in the game. 296 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,120 There were a lot of things. I think the thing that I took 297 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 the most out of it, Joe, was just how many of the top 298 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 contributors were not on the roster last year. 299 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 I mean, Isaiah Jones deserves some credit. 300 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,280 He didn't get a lot of play last year, but he was on the roster 301 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,680 and he made six tackles in this game. 302 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Josh Sanguinetti had five tackles and a half a tackle for 303 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,080 loss. And pretty much everybody else 304 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,120 in those top contributors came from either JMU or transferred 305 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,920 in from somewhere else in college football. 306 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,640 That it's an interesting thing and there's some names we didn't 307 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,920 see on the stat sheet that were on the roster last year that we 308 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,120 kind of expected to. But it's clear that they brought 309 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,880 in enough personnel that they can have a good defensive game. 310 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,280 And I'm sorry, holding anybody in FBS under 200 yards in a 311 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,760 game, I don't care who it is. That's a pretty good, I guess 312 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,600 maybe Iowa would be the one exception, but everybody else, 313 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,320 it's like this is a good performance that you hold these 314 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,840 teams to that low of a number of yards. 315 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080 It's a good thing Indiana doesn't play Iowa this year. 316 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,200 You don't want to be eating those words, not that you would 317 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,920 be. But I think with the defense and 318 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,520 with some of those new 26 new players made their Indiana debut 319 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,280 on Saturday, which I think that goes into just the weight of the 320 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,120 transfer portal in this modern era of college sports. 321 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,920 And how Indiana Kurt Cignetti, they utilize those assets very 322 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,440 well and and brought in guys like Aiden Fisher, the two 323 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,800 running backs who who rushed for a combined 142 yards on the day. 324 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,600 It was Ellison and Tyson Law and and just guys like that were 325 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,320 making plays all day. They then found a new home here 326 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,360 in Indiana And it just, it goes to show that people were hungry 327 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,880 along with this 63 year old head coach who it's claims he's too 328 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,240 young to stop learning. What was a good thing to hear 329 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,440 from folks in charge? I think that's that's got to be 330 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,280 a process. Hey, you mentioned Tyson Lawton, 331 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,360 one of the players that had a a good game statistically for IU, 332 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,680 you know, and there, you know, it's one of those things we can 333 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,760 see a clip of him in the game and this was the touchdown carry 334 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,760 that he had or one of the touchdowns carries that he had 335 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,120 that. And, you know, two things here. 336 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,000 I guess, first of all, we can certainly talk about how well 337 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,080 the offensive line was run blocking and how well they 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,920 played overall. But I think the other thing to 339 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,520 keep in mind is that Indiana with their top three rushing 340 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,520 backs in this game, Elijah Green, Lawton and Justice Ellis, 341 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,000 and none of them were on the roster last year. 342 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 They were all on ACC rosters except for Lawton Lawton, who 343 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,920 was on the JM U's roster. But it's it's interesting to see 344 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,880 that group come in and immediately become the folks 345 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,400 that are getting the ball regularly. 346 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,480 And for Indiana, it's funny, Indiana wanted to be a running 347 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,920 team last year, almost to a point of ridiculousness. 348 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,480 You know, they're they're doing option runs on with quarterbacks 349 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,200 and just stuff that they weren't well suited for. 350 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,320 We didn't really know what Indiana wanted to do, you know, 351 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,080 on offense this year. And yet they come out and have 352 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,560 one of their best rushing performances of the last several 353 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,560 years. That is really intriguing. 354 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,200 And I'm really fascinated to see where that goes as we move 355 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,680 forward because that could be an identity. 356 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,400 I mean, they have, they clearly have 3 backs and a good 357 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,320 offensive line. And that's sometimes all you 358 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,720 need in these sorts of situations. 359 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,800 I and I, I agree. I think they have the 360 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,160 versatility in that running backroom that can compete with 361 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,960 those Big 10 teams once the schedule comes along. 362 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Now, obviously there will be the juggernauts they play when they 363 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,320 head out to Columbus in Week 11 to take on Ohio State, but 364 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,600 that's so far away away that we can't really make any sort of 365 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,640 prediction up of the of that. But I will, I will add about 366 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 week 1. When you see teams, a lot of 367 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,960 times they try and get run heavy just because the timing of 368 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,920 things are a lot harder when it comes to passing the ball. 369 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,640 And you saw it a few times there. 370 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,200 There are a few miscues in that second-half. 371 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,640 Once the often stalled out a little bit where Rourke was 372 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,400 missing a few. It just seemed like timing 373 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,280 routes were a little bit off just half second-half step, 374 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,840 something like that. And he even admitted it when we 375 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,080 talked to him just back. Felt like overall the 376 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,400 performance was solid for the first game, but it's like you 377 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,520 just get back into the lab and work for that next week. 378 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,440 And I think with this upcoming game on Friday will be a good 379 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,080 kind of just get some of those timing down considering it's an 380 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,640 FCS opponent. Yeah, that. 381 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,960 I mean, it was one of those things where you could look at 382 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,600 the passing game and say not sufficient Curtis work, you 383 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,720 know, kind of the jury's still at 15 to 24180 yards a 384 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,160 touchdown. And but there were a lot of 385 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,400 drops. I mean, there were a lot of 386 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,840 balls that Rourke put right on the money that the receivers 387 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,000 just dropped. And there were holding 388 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 penalties. There were other penalties that 389 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080 that ended up negating good opportunities offensively. 390 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,760 And again, I think that will be something that gets addressed 391 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,640 and can be fixed as we move forward. 392 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,000 I I felt like I was more worried that the defense wasn't going to 393 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 be ready and the offense would be. 394 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,120 I'm fine with the offense growing over the next couple of 395 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:47,840 weeks into itself if the defense is already in a good space. 396 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,480 We did have a question from John. 397 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Any additional word on Donovan Mccauley's injury and possible 398 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 availability? I think Signetti addressed that 399 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,440 a little bit in the press conference that happened today, 400 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,400 Joe, or yesterday. What? 401 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,760 What? What's the word on Mccully at 402 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,160 this point? I'm trying to pull up the 403 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,200 transcript right now. He he addressed it a bit. 404 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,800 I mean, he seemed. He was a little typical. 405 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,400 I mean, it was, it was one of those things where it was 406 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,560 interesting that Macaulay didn't get targeted more than he did in 407 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,080 the game, but he did get targeted. 408 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,760 I actually had just texted a friend of mine, like, has 409 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,640 Macaulay gotten targeted yet? And then of course, they threw 410 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,320 him the ball literally the next time. 411 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,600 But then he went out immediately got hit in the head. 412 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,560 I think he had a Stinger of some sort, but doesn't appear like 413 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,600 it's necessarily going to keep him out of action. 414 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Yeah, it seems like it's a it's a day-to-day thing. 415 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,560 He said he was liking his progress heading into this this 416 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,560 first week playing fast, doing a nice job and right now 417 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,480 day-to-day not entirely sure if he'll play on Friday just 418 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 considering the level of opponent that it is. 419 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,480 But right now all all that is, is just a day-to-day update for 420 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,880 gun work away. Yeah. 421 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,160 So I I would remain optimistic that we'll see Mccully maybe in 422 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,600 somewhat limited action against Western Illinois because that's 423 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,880 probably not going to be that much of a challenge from a match 424 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,320 up perspective for him and maybe give him some extra time to get 425 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,360 well. But I think he's going to be 426 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:12,760 fine moving forward. We did a couple of funny 427 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,440 comments, Matt Kubot saying what dimension did I just fall into 428 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,640 that? You just use the words good 429 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,800 offensive line. Look, I mean, here's the thing. 430 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,560 You could see a little bit of the beginnings of it last year. 431 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,840 And I think Bob Bostad knows what he's doing with the 432 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,840 offensive line. But I think what was missing 433 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,200 last year was there wasn't a complimentary offensive scheme 434 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,680 that allowed for the offensive line to avoid having to sit so 435 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480 long that it made mistakes. I mean, a lot of those plays 436 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,960 that we saw last year with Walt Bell and, you know, and even 437 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,400 after Walt Bell got fired, they were slow developing or they 438 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,160 were asking the offensive line to do things that they were not 439 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,600 really well suited to do. What I saw in this game was 440 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,280 handoffs were pretty quick, you know, the, the passing game when 441 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,480 there wasn't something happening for the most part, Rourke knew 442 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,000 at least to get, get rid of the ball or, or, or target somebody 443 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,640 short. I, I really like the way that 444 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,040 they utilized Zach Horton early on that touchdown pass that he 445 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,560 caught that, that that's what I've been waiting for for the 446 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,320 last couple of years. It's like, hey, can we please 447 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,200 use the tight ends? Can we please use somebody other 448 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,000 than the wide receivers to catch the ball every single time 449 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,600 because that will open things up. 450 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,280 And so, yeah, I mean, and you, it's hard to be a good run 451 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,280 blocking offensive line these days. 452 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Now, granted, again, FIU probably not the best offensive 453 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,440 line exemplar to look at moving forward, but it's a good start. 454 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,480 And to some degree, it's like we saw Indiana play a lot lesser 455 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,320 competition last year trying to run the ball and they averaged 456 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 about two yards to carry less than they were able to manage in 457 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,160 this game. So a lot of good things to think 458 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,760 about and project forward on with this particular team, I 459 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,440 would say. I'll add something brief to that 460 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,200 offensive line. I mean like you said, with both 461 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520 side coming in, it was a night and day shift about just the 462 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,800 quality of it. And then back to last season 463 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,080 with that offensive, the first few games they were rotating 2 464 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,240 quarterbacks with Tamron Jackson and Brendan Sorsby. 465 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,320 They they had no idea what they were doing offensively. 466 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Like respectfully they didn't. And now they have a six year 467 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,200 quarterback who was one player of the year in his conference 468 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,120 before I was back in 2022 in the Mack at Ohio. 469 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,080 It's just a well experienced guy that even just the brilliance, 470 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,160 the basics like where did I hand the ball off, timings of his 471 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,480 steps, He's going to have that more down to the science that 472 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,680 there aren't going to be these miscues in the running back. 473 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520 These experienced running backs like Justice Ellison, Tyson 474 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,920 Lawton, they're able to find the hole quickly. 475 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,080 And I I think it's just it comes down to they have a consistent 476 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 guy at quarterback. And it seems like for the first 477 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200 time since what was supposed to be Michael Pendeks. 478 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,880 As we move out of talking about the game, we did have we 479 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,360 mentioned earlier Aidan Fisher leading the team in tackles, but 480 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:55,720 he was also asked about something that came up in the 481 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,840 post game press conference with Kurt Signetti. 482 00:23:58,120 --> 00:23:59,800 And it's something that's been talking about on social media a 483 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720 little bit, which is the attendance at the game of the 484 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520 attendance itself was about what you would get for this type of a 485 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,520 game about I think 4344 thousand, but a lot of people 486 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,440 left at halftime. If you've been to an IU game, 487 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,280 you know that. But Fisher had some comments 488 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,720 about that. That will go ahead and play now. 489 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,560 Just knowing that the games aren't going to get lopsided 490 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,640 anymore, and if they do, we're going to be on. 491 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,160 Top so the. Biggest thing I'd say is stay in 492 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,040 these stands and we kind of, we need the fans to get us going 493 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,640 and keep us in these games and they play a bigger role than 494 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,440 they think. I mean, you know, it's 495 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,800 interesting saying, well, games aren't going to be lopsided if 496 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320 they are will be on top. That's a great message to send 497 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,440 to fans. It's like, well, look, we're 498 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,920 going to be their leading or the game's going to be close, and 499 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,800 either way, we want you in the stands. 500 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 This is something that Kurt Signetti kind of brought up 501 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,440 unsolicited in the press conference after the game where 502 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,200 he's like, we got to, you know, we want to start some new 503 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,760 traditions here. One of them is getting people to 504 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,560 not leave at halftime. And it's an interesting thing. 505 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,400 And I'm curious from a student perspective, you obviously were 506 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520 covering the game. So you didn't leave, at least I 507 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,040 don't think. Did you leave at halftime, Joe? 508 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,840 I was. I was there the whole time. 509 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,440 You. Know good. 510 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,040 I just wanted to make sure but the you know a lot of people did 511 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,720 leave now the game was it slowed down a bit at that point Indiana 512 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,400 was up relatively comfortably. I mean, they were only up 14, 513 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,240 but it was a bit jarring to just watch everybody leave and not 514 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,160 come back. And I there's been a fight over 515 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,440 what exactly we should be thinking about all of these 516 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,480 items. But Joe, I mean, from the 517 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,920 student perspective, I know people are excited about 518 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,440 football, but there's just this culture that's hard to break 519 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,920 with the students about, hey, you get to halftime, you're 520 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,280 going to go out and go back into the tailgate fields or go 521 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,520 somewhere else. Right. 522 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,160 And and it's something that just so ingrained into what IU 523 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,240 football has been these past couple years, it's like, yeah, 524 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,920 you enjoy your tailgate, go to the game for what was 1/4 at 525 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,880 times and then go back home and take your nap or do whatever. 526 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,400 And and I think with this year, with some of those shifts, it's 527 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:09,640 hard to expect something in town. 528 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,440 But like the season just got started and the results just got 529 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,640 started. And 31 to 7, that's a good score 530 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,920 line. That's a Week 1 victory, but I 531 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,760 think. Joe having a little bit of 532 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Internet issue here, but but now to kind of pick up on your 533 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,560 comments. Joe yeah, it's at you know, it's 534 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,880 one of those things we tried to talk about this a little bit on 535 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960 on our show on Crimson cast earlier. 536 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,920 This idea, we'll get Joe back in a second, but it's this general 537 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,440 idea of what comes first, people in the stands supporting the 538 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:49,440 team throughout the whole time or people who are not in the 539 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,880 stands. We're going to remove Joe from 540 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,160 the screen for just a second while we get his video feedback 541 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,240 to where it's supposed to be, you know, getting people in the 542 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920 stands 1st and then the team wins or the team wins and then 543 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480 you get them into the stands. And one of the things that I 544 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,360 have been saying for a while on this front is it's not going to 545 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,840 happen overnight and you're not really going to be able to shame 546 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,240 people into sitting in the stands the whole time. 547 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:11,720 They have to really want to be there. 548 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,680 And this is one of those things that I think it's frustrating to 549 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,600 IU football fans like hardcore football fans because most 550 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,680 hardcore IU football fans don't need convincing. 551 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,800 Like they are there for the whole game and they want to stay 552 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,400 there for the whole game. But any, almost any football 553 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,800 situation, whether that's, I mean, you know, some of the 554 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,360 places like Michigan and things like that, they made Linda's 555 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,560 generally have 100,000 people who stay there the whole time. 556 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,320 But most of the time you got a certain collection of casual 557 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,640 fans and you've got a certain collection of hardcore fans and 558 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,720 it's getting the casual fans to stick around. 559 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,640 That's always the biggest challenge. 560 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,240 It's like we got Joe back. He's back. 561 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,840 Sorry about that, Internet just went down. 562 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,840 Hey, these things happen. You know, it's fine. 563 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,240 We're we're still, we're still alive. 564 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280 All all is good. But no, as, as I was saying, 565 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,000 you, you have to convince the casual fans that this is worth 566 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 their time and staying there for three hours. 567 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,560 And I think it's just going to take a while because you've been 568 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,120 here for a couple years as a student, Joe. 569 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,200 You know, there's just like there's not that level of 570 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,200 culture around football specifically for students. 571 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,320 They'd rather go to basketball games because there is a 572 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560 basketball culture, even if the team hasn't been as successful 573 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560 as historic. But that's what the football's 574 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,440 going to have to do. You're probably not going to get 575 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,880 people to stick around for the second-half of the first game. 576 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,720 But hey, you go out, you beat Western Illinois, you have a 577 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,840 good showing against UCLA, you beat Charlotte. 578 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,400 Now all of a sudden it's like, hey, this team's three and one 579 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,360 or four and O, we feel like we're cooking. 580 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,120 We've got something that we want to stick around for. 581 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,840 That's really where the attendance is going to come from 582 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720 ultimately. And especially, I mean, I mean, 583 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,120 I think taking a grain of salt with those first couple games 584 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,920 just because of the opponent they're playing. 585 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,520 It's like once they start seeing the Nebraska's come in 586 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,280 Washington, that's a new Big 10 opponent, that'll be fun. 587 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280 Michigan, that's the reigning national champion when they come 588 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,040 to Bloomington. That should theoretically be a 589 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200 game that Indiana has a winning record at considering their non 590 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720 conference slate in some of their early Big 10 games as 591 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,560 well. So I think there just is some 592 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 excitement down the road and it's just going to take time and 593 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,120 I think towards the end of the season that should be the goal 594 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,120 come the Oaken Bucket game, the goal should be that Memorial 595 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Stadium is packed for four quarters. 596 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,080 Yeah, it's going to be a really fascinating evolution to watch 597 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,440 and we're looking forward to watching it. 598 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,800 IU plays Western Illinois this week on Friday. 599 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,760 Unusual day and time for a game. 7:00 kick. 600 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,160 Western Illinois is real bad. We didn't spend a whole lot of 601 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,800 time previewing them this time around. 602 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,880 I'm hoping Indiana wins that one handily, otherwise we're going 603 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,640 to really look foolish when we come back Tuesday of next week 604 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,720 and say God, we didn't. We completely underestimated 605 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Western Illinois. I have faith in IU. 606 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760 I'm looking forward to seeing what they do to fix things up. 607 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,840 Joe, any final thoughts before we wrap up this first episode? 608 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,480 Not really. It looks like the Hoosiers will 609 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,120 go 2 and O heading into their first road trip of the year and 610 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,880 1st game against UCLA ever. Well, and I'll note as David 611 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Litzelswope noted earlier, UCLA didn't look great. 612 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,520 A win there would be significant. 613 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640 They almost lost to Hawaii, watched most of that game after 614 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,080 it came home from the IU game. We will see what happens with IU 615 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,720 and UCLA this upcoming week and we'll talk about that in depth 616 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,120 next week. Next Tuesday, 6:30 PM, same bat 617 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,840 channel. Be sure to tune in. 618 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,360 Our huge thanks to all you folks who watched and commented 619 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,640 throughout the course of this episode. 620 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,320 We really appreciate it. Hopefully it was worthwhile for 621 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,280 you as well. If you are catching this on the 622 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,280 replay or you're catching this in audio form, set your calendar 623 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760 6:30 Eastern on Tuesday. We're going to be doing Tuesday 624 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,000 Night Bison chat for the entire season. 625 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,560 We hope that you'll join us live. 626 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,000 We'd love to hear from you. Huge thanks to Emily Fox who 627 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440 produced Behind the Scenes and we're looking forward to working 628 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,560 with her the whole season. Joe, my thanks to you as well. 629 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Great to have you on board and we'll look forward to doing this 630 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480 again next week. Pleasure to be on. 631 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,120 All right, thanks for Joe and for Emily and for the entire 632 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,680 Back Home Network and IU Sports Media. 633 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280 I'm Galen Clavio saying thanks for joining us, folks. 634 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,520 We'll catch you on the flip side, bring back the Bison. 635 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,680 So everybody.