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Former IU odd receiver Mitchell 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Page joining us here on the show. 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,640 Mitchell. We met randomly after the 58 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,520 Nebraska game in person and now here we are. 59 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Miracles can't happen. This is why you go out after 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,800 games, folks. But how you doing? 61 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Great to have you on the show. Yeah, absolutely. 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,040 I was just listening. You know what the biggest 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,320 travesty I think in my life right now is? 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,280 I don't own a single article of home field apparel. 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Wow. Isn't that terrible, I'm 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,480 thinking. Connor, I know you're listening. 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,440 That is horrible it. I don't deserve it at this 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,560 point. Some of the unbelievable stuff 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,040 that they, and this is, I'm not being paid by them. 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:56,000 They just have unbelievable logos, designs, just bringing 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,560 back classic looks. I'm completely missing out. 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 So I was just listening to you go through that. 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,240 I may be at the upstairs on Saturday morning. 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,440 If I if I wasn't having to be in my tailgate spot at 5-6 AM 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,600 basically on on Saturday morning, I might just park, fire 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,600 up the generator and walk down to upstairs and see if I could 77 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,360 get in at that point. I think it might be the move. 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,480 If it's anything like it was last week, you'll probably be 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,720 late. Late getting in late getting 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,000 out. Yeah, it was pretty jammed. 81 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,200 And folks, if you haven't been to upstairs is not not an 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,560 official sponsor of the show, but you know, they are our 83 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 adopted bar here on on Crimson cast. 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,320 If you haven't been to the new side of of the upstairs pub, 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,880 it's like a spaceship landed on the building with the the 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,720 coolest sports bar set up that you could possibly think of on 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Kirkwood. It doesn't stink. 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,080 That was my first time seeing it. 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,880 For whatever reason, when I was there, never really went 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,640 upstairs. I, I think Brothers was our big 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,480 spot is whenever I was on the team. 92 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,320 So I spent plenty of time in that place. 93 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,280 But upstairs, maybe my spot, I ran into you. 94 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:05,640 You never know what might happen. 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,120 See, I mean, great things happen at upstairs. 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,360 I, you'll find me there at least every once in a great while and 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,920 you'll see me there on Friday even better. 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,600 So. But I wanted to bring you on, 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,400 you know, 'cause this is IU. Football's having what we would 100 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,000 call a moment. I think you could say feels like 101 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,960 it maybe the moment and and this is, you know, for for someone 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,920 like yourself who is, you know, worn the uniform and has gone 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 out there and you know, was there for two of the most 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,040 successful seasons in IU history. 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,160 If you take the totality of the whole 220 some years. 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,760 I I guess first and foremost, like what has been your reaction 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,600 to this season so far? Yeah, it's definitely changed 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,240 from the beginning. I think you watch them play the 109 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,080 first game and they look pretty Dang good, but we've looked good 110 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,760 before and then it just keeps happening. 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,080 And you almost expect, I mean, I played for the team and I wasn't 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,280 on the sideline expecting something to happen. 113 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:09,200 But you could just feel moments in the game where it's like, oh 114 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,440 gosh, here we we're going to snap it over the guy's head or 115 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,600 something crazy like that. And the only reason I know that 116 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,520 it would happen is I saw it over and I was a part of it. 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 I still have nightmares of double overtime Michigan, me 118 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,720 dropping the Dang ball on the goal line. 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,080 I still have nightmares about it. 120 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,840 And this team just doesn't do that. 121 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,960 They are an inevitable force. Like if you're on the tracks, 122 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,840 get out of the way. And I think the most impressive 123 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:42,600 thing that, and now it's finally being talked about in the 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,120 national media, but they don't do anything that's crazy flashy. 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,280 They're just extremely clinical and the coaches put guys in 126 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:55,920 places to be successful. They take what you're really 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,160 good at and put you there. Whatever you're really bad at, 128 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,680 they keep you away from as much as possible and it seems like 129 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,040 they've done that at a really high level. 130 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,920 Obviously you've got the quarterback, Curtis Rourke's 131 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,360 been unbelievable. We're talking Heisman with him, 132 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 but all the way through the roster, you've got an offensive 133 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,960 line that felt like they were invisible at times in the last 134 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,400 couple years and now they're standing up to what people said 135 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,400 was a top 10 defensive line. Kind of hit him in the mouth so. 136 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Part part in the Red Sea, right? It just, they, they feel like 137 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,480 that you just need to get out of the way. 138 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,280 And honestly, the the environment, it feels magical. 139 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 I will be at every game from here on out. 140 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,840 I even if I was still living in Charleston where I was last 141 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880 year, I'd be at every game. It, it just feels like if you 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,280 haven't been can be a little harder to go now 'cause every 143 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,320 game's sold out, but you better find a way to at least be in the 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,560 city on game day, because it's, it's, I've never seen anything 145 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,640 like it. I truly haven't. 146 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,560 I, I got so many directions I want to go with you on this, but 147 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,240 let me, let me start with something you were kind of 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,840 alluding to there, which is like, you know, how clinical and 149 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,600 how like it's not flashiness. It's not like, you know, we, 150 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,880 we've talked about this on the podcast before where it always 151 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,040 felt like when Indiana was good, they had a few like really 152 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,080 awesome players and then they had a bunch of guys that were 153 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,400 like a couple of levels below and they, you rose and fell 154 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,280 based upon how well or how poorly those players were 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,600 playing. And this team, I mean, I've, I, 156 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,760 I, I looked at the roster and I'm like, where are the obvious 157 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,799 NFL players? Like where, where are the guys 158 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,679 who are head and shoulders? It's like everybody's a solid B 159 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,919 plus or a minus, which doesn't sound impressive until you think 160 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,799 about, well, gosh, if everybody's AB plus or an A 161 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:44,320 minus, you don't have a lot of drop off. 162 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,920 That makes a tremendous difference in, you know, what 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,080 plays you're calling, how you're scheming, you know, asking guys 164 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,400 to step up and do things and, and not asking them to do things 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 they can't do. As I think you alluded to there, 166 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,000 it's rare you get a group of of players together that can do 167 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,080 that, and it's even rarer for a coaching staff to be able to 168 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,400 harness that kind of effort and intensity. 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Yeah, I I think what, as we get farther along into the transfer 170 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,480 portal, you start to see guys make jumps from what they call 171 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,840 the group of five or sometimes even below or into the Big 4, 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,040 right? Whatever that means. 173 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:19,120 I think a couple things are really going to start to stand 174 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,840 out. The first one being how close 175 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,680 the really good players on all of those teams at every level 176 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,960 are to each other. It also exaggerates how 177 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,320 important depth is. And I think the only thing I can 178 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,680 really compare it to is the teams that I played on, right? 179 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,760 We had unbelievable talent at the top end. 180 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,840 And I'm not I'm not including myself in this at all. 181 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,400 I I was just kind of a guy. But you look at like a Cody 182 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Latimer or Shane Nguyen or Tevin Coleman, Jordan hat, like those 183 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,320 guys start at every school in the conference in a lot of 184 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,680 schools in the country. Maybe you start getting to 185 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:01,080 Georgia or whatever, but like we had talent. 186 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,800 But if you really watch those games, especially the games 187 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 against Ohio State, for whatever reason, we always matched up 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,400 really well with them for a really long time. 189 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,320 And then as you're just hitting, hitting, hitting, hitting, you 190 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,280 start to see where that depth starts to matter, especially 191 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,120 along the offensive and defensive lines. 192 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,400 When you just been banging into each other for three hours, you 193 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,480 just start to wear down and that next man up being able to do it, 194 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,160 that's where the really good team separate themselves. 195 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,000 And Indiana in a year has built a bunch of depth with a lot of 196 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,760 starters that we were just talking about are all right next 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 to each other pretty Dang good. And they've all bought into 198 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,680 whatever signet he's talking about in the team room. 199 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,360 I would pay a lot of money to be in one of those meetings. 200 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,960 But when you have something like that, I, I keep using the word 201 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,440 magic because that's the only thing that I can really describe 202 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,040 it as. But really it's just good roster 203 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,240 construction in a team that believes that's all that really 204 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,360 has happened. You didn't bring in a bunch of 205 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,320 five star players. I would guess there's 05 star 206 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,440 players on the roster and this is the results you get. 207 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,840 I, I don't think I've watched a lot of ball this year, Not a lot 208 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,440 of teams that are doing what Indiana's doing. 209 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,320 I don't care if you're talking in Oregon, Georgia, sometimes 210 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Texas. Yeah. 211 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,440 I, I, I think just the fact that we're talking about Indiana in 212 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,160 that vein, it's like it's a fake world, isn't it? 213 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,680 I mean, I, I've been joking with a lot of people all this, it's 214 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:37,200 like every time I talk about how good Indiana is or how, you 215 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,960 know, they're, they're, they have a better than 50% shot of 216 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,560 making the playoffs, I feel like I'm gonna get struck by 217 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:46,160 lightning because that's this is, this is the universe and the 218 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,640 way it normally operates for us. Like you're not supposed to say 219 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,520 those things. And yet and yet, you know, I 220 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,600 think what lingering doubts I had about the team really, you 221 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,720 know, they disintegrated early. I know that UCLA game. 222 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,400 I've been to every single game so far and home and away. 223 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,040 And it's, you know, I remember standing in the in the, you 224 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,440 know, the, the stands there and if third quarter and, you know, 225 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,120 UCLA gets the ball if they scored on their first possession 226 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,200 of the third quarter. And I'm like, OK, is this when 227 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,320 it unravels? And not only did it not unravel 228 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,280 it, it reraveled or whatever, whatever you want to say, like 229 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,040 they want the. Exact they did. 230 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,880 The same thing against Maryland, they did the same thing against 231 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Northwestern in a game that was pretty tight there in the third 232 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,960 quarter and then they just blew it open. 233 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,880 And then you know, the Nebraska game, I'm like, well, Nebraska's 234 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,040 gonna clearly give them an effort. 235 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,440 I picked Indiana to start 6 and O and then lose the 7th and 8th 236 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,640 game. So I was like, well, you know, 237 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Nebraska probably a bridge too far, Washington Bridge too far. 238 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,880 And to come out and hang A50 six to seven victory on a team that 239 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,160 was a, a fringe top 25 team to to beat them so severely that 240 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,880 that chart, like, did we lose that bad chart that's on 241 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Twitter? Like you need a. 242 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,440 Separate chart to get Indiana, Nebraska on there. 243 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,920 I, I mean, my God, it's, it's, it's just one of those things 244 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,880 where it doesn't compute. And I've had people ask me like, 245 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,880 how is Indiana doing this? And other than the very 246 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,320 technical and accurate description you just gave, it's 247 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,000 like, well, they've got a bunch of guys who are doing their jobs 248 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,840 really well and they make really good play calls and they seem to 249 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,360 really stay disciplined. I cannot explain it, and I've 250 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,400 given up trying. It's like if I try to peer too 251 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,120 deeply into this, I'm afraid I'm going to undo the magic or 252 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,680 something. So I'm just kind of like living 253 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:34,840 in the moment, as messed as I possibly can. 254 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,600 Just smile and wave. It's unbelievable. 255 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,760 I think the real turning point of the season in terms of my 256 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,320 belief and I think the belief of a lot of people that are true 257 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,840 live and die. IU football fans and I, I'm 258 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,320 going to pause that thought because I do want to say even 259 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,600 before this now, it feels like there's a whole bandwagon and 260 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,000 come on, all of you are invited there. 261 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,480 There's no shame that you're just now joining us. 262 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Come on we're excited you're here. 263 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,360 But even in the down years, the IU football fan is a unique, 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,000 powerful individual. Like to the ability to just 265 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,400 every year bang your head against that wall is a special, 266 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,600 special trait. And there's so many of them out 267 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,440 there. I've interacted with a lot of 268 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,560 people that are just die hard, die hard football fans. 269 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,640 And when I do come across them, it makes my week, month. 270 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:37,080 It just how cool and passionate those real lifers are. 271 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,080 So now I'm going to pivot as that fan. 272 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,240 You start to talk about like the when the belief changes. 273 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,320 I was in the stadium for Maryland. 274 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,280 You throw 2 picks in a set. It felt like you threw 2 picks 275 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,760 before the game started. That's a game that in the past, 276 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,840 similar to Rutgers a couple years ago, you lose 50 to 277 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,840 nothing. Things have derailed. 278 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,200 You start getting mad at each other. 279 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,920 You start throwing the ball down the field trying to make it all 280 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,000 up in one play. And when I watch these guys just 281 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,960 methodically, continually beat teams into the ground, that's 282 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,760 when you start to think, OK, these guys got a little 283 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,840 something different to the point where now I'm not afraid to 284 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,120 appear behind the curtain. I want to see the magic because 285 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,320 it's it's real. It's it's not a team that in the 286 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,200 past we've had some teams that create a bunch of havoc on 287 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,080 defense and cause some turnovers and get some 5050 balls to fall 288 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,560 our way. That's just as fun. 289 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Or it is fun. Maybe not just as fun. 290 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,160 This is it's truly a just good team. 291 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,760 There's nothing flashy. They don't do anything fancy. 292 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,760 You just better bring it if you're going to play them. 293 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Yeah, it feels more sustainable than than the big play approach. 294 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,800 You know, it's funny you mentioned like the game that you 295 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,880 throw 2 picks early and then lose by 50. 296 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,960 Nothing. It's essentially what happened 297 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,040 in Nebraska. You know, they, they, they, they 298 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 had that, that game. Think about that. 299 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,080 They were down 50 to nothing. It felt like, yeah, at the 300 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,600 kickoff, yeah. And, and that it's just so weird 301 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,240 for Indiana football to be the one doling that out as opposed 302 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,000 to being on their losing end of it. 303 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 I was talking with somebody who's not a huge football fan. 304 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,400 It was the day after the Nebraska game. 305 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,760 And I was like explaining how the whole day had gone. 306 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,320 And they they, they asked me something that I just thought 307 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,120 that was hilarious. They were like, well, why hasn't 308 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,520 IU just hired somebody like Signetti before? 309 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,920 And I'm like, I don't think you understood. 310 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,440 I don't think Indiana understood necessarily what they were 311 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,400 hiring when they got Signeti. I think they had an inkling like 312 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 this guy could be special. This guy is different. 313 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,480 But it is so unusual, not just at Indiana but in college 314 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,359 football to hire a coach who comes in and completely flips 315 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,920 the culture. You know, especially, you know, 316 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,400 I mean, we've never really had the transfer portal era prior to 317 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,920 the last couple of years. But that obviously allows you to 318 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,079 flip the culture a little bit faster. 319 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,440 But even with that, we, you know, normally takes 3-4 years 320 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,720 to really get your system and get your program in. 321 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,839 How surprised are you about how quick this is gone? 322 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,640 And what do you think is the reason why they've been able to 323 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,920 get it going so quickly? Yeah, it's obviously 324 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,080 unprecedented times with the transfer portal, so it does 325 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:42,920 happen faster. But the ability to just come in 326 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,440 with completely new guys. And he brought some from JMU and 327 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,960 there's some that play, so some were familiar. 328 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,360 But it's still 85 guys that have never seen you before. 329 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,760 They got recruit. Half the team got recruited by 330 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,960 you, the other half just had two or three of the most miserable 331 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,880 years of their lives. And now you'll come in. 332 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,160 Maybe you're a breath of fresh air, but to buy in implement a 333 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:14,120 system that is as diverse and I keep using the word clinical, 334 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:19,000 but that's what it is and disciplined that quickly at a 335 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,600 place that had experienced the last couple of years. 336 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,480 It's I don't have any words for what that is. 337 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,960 It's much more likely that a team like Alabama, and I don't 338 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,240 mean this because Kayla Nabor was at Indiana, he has probably 339 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,640 the hardest job takeover in the history of college football. 340 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,640 That's so this is no slight to him, but I'm just using that as 341 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,120 a reference because you go into a place like Alabama that has 342 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:48,280 the standards, has a bunch of guys that have followed these 343 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,840 standards. Saban leaves. 344 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,920 You lose a couple guys, but it's not the whole roster. 345 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:57,640 It's still a very big chunk of those initial dudes that played 346 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,520 for Nick Saban and they average 20 penalties a game. 347 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,840 It's the same guys that happens much more often than coming in 348 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,760 and taking over a team that couldn't block a soul, couldn't 349 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,880 throw it 5 yards down the field, couldn't tackle anybody, and 350 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,640 we're destined to lose every game before they even flip the 351 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:24,000 coin. To have the aura isn't the right 352 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,280 word, but it kind of is. Like when you come in, you talk 353 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,840 crazy. First of all, some of the stuff 354 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,760 he said. When you look back at it, if you 355 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,320 don't think this man was a psycho when he first got here 356 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,560 without seeing this, you're a liar. 357 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,560 If you tell me that, you're like, yeah, I believed him. 358 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,680 No, you didn't. To start like that and get a 359 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,320 team that actually believes what the heck you're saying before 360 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,920 anybody else does. When a lot of people on campus, 361 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,760 you go to class. I've been in those classes after 362 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,360 we lose a game that we should have won, and the professor 363 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,360 doesn't even know that I'm in the class and starts making 364 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:05,360 jokes about the football team. I've been in that class. 365 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 That's happening to those guys, especially when I win. 366 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,160 Google me. And so does Purdue and Ohio 367 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,720 State, especially when that happens. 368 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,440 So now you get on campus. These people think we got a 369 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,240 lunatic coach on the football team. 370 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,880 They're going to be talking like that, you know what's happening 371 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,840 at practice. But it's so easy to kind of let 372 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,280 those voices get in your head and get distracted. 373 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,800 And they haven't done that. And I, I think that that is 374 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,480 maybe why I have a little more hope that they're not going to 375 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,680 let the national media get in their head now that people think 376 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,480 they're good and they're just going to keep on doing what 377 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,200 they're doing. So that was a really long way to 378 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,480 answer a question, but it's there's so many factors that 379 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,240 make it unbelievable that it becomes simple. 380 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Like the real simple is they believe in them, they believe 381 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,400 they're going to win and they're really freaking good. 382 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 That's it. I want to go back to what you 383 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,280 said there about not letting it stuff get in their heads. 384 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,080 You know, so as a football player, you know, obviously game 385 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,160 day didn't come when you were here or it came the next year 386 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,200 sort of for that Thursday game. But you know, how are you 387 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,760 dealing with the week when this kind of noise is happening 388 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,400 around you? And you know, I mean, it's it, 389 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,760 it's not just the game day thing, but it's all of the 390 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,080 national media. And this, this was what I 391 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,800 worried about last week because it felt like Signeti or Curtis 392 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Rourke were on every single podcast and show known to man. 393 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,480 And I, I just was thinking the whole week I was like, God, I 394 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,520 hope that this doesn't cause them to come out and just be 395 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,720 flat. And I had the opposite effect. 396 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,040 I'm like, maybe they need to be on more shows this week. 397 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,800 I'm scrolling Twitter and I see Signeti on Pat Mcafee's show. 398 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,680 I'm thinking, oh gosh, here we go again. 399 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,800 We've got big time. This is over with and now I 400 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,840 think he should be the president. 401 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,880 I wish it was on the presidential debates. 402 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,520 I'm. Fine, I'm fine with right in a 403 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,000 minute at this point, it might be best for everybody, but I 404 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,320 mean, are you able to shut the noise that like, how does it 405 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,480 penetrate and and what can a coaching staff do like you 406 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 because you don't want to overdo it, because then you can almost 407 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,040 create a self fulfilling prophecy to some degree, to 408 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,080 borrow something that somebody told me a couple of days ago. 409 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,960 But it it does feel like it's a tightrope to walk, especially 410 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,920 for a group of players, at least the non JMU guys and and their 411 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,040 success was at a lower level. But this is not a group that's 412 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,160 collectively had a lot of taste of success up to this point. 413 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,840 Yeah, it's really hard and I can promise you that they do hear 414 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,000 it. Now. 415 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,000 I think as a coach, you have to acknowledge that you hear it. 416 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,760 People think you're really good. And in some people, I've 417 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,240 definitely been in scenarios where they say people think 418 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160 you're good but you're not. And here's why. 419 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Here's why. Here's why. 420 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,040 This is why we got to bring you down to make you think you're 421 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,880 not. I'm more in the camp of people 422 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,000 think you're really good. Now you got to go prove it 423 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,560 because you haven't shown him anything yet. 424 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,640 We're not even close to how good we can be. 425 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,360 And that kind of feels how Signetti handles it now. 426 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,080 Yeah, he is hard on you when you're winning because that's 427 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,240 what you need to do, especially on Saturdays. 428 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,480 But during the week, my guess is they're coaching much more 429 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,320 positively. Even when there's a negative 430 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,400 play that happens at practice or in the game, you talk about it 431 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,680 more along the lines of people think you're really good. 432 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,000 If you start playing like this, they're going to stop thinking 433 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,640 you're really good. You need to go show the world 434 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,880 why we are different and why they're still not talking about 435 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 us enough. And I think that's how you build 436 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,640 the little chip on the shoulder. But I do have a funny story 437 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,760 about letting the letting the noise get in. 438 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,240 I was still a walk on. I was not playing, but I 439 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,600 definitely heard it and I was all bought in. 440 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,760 I think it was my second year. We got through the 7th game of 441 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560 the season. We were like four and three or 442 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,520 something. It wasn't. 443 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,880 We were not blowing teams away and somehow it shook out that 444 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,400 there was no conference divisions yet. 445 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,720 I don't think maybe there was. I think it was the old that was 446 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,480 the leaders and legends, that's what. 447 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,240 It that's what it was because Wisconsin was on our side. 448 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,200 I know, I know. I remember this. 449 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,000 I was at this game. Somehow it worked out that if we 450 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800 beat Ohio State. Ohio State had been put on 451 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,720 probation, I think because of the tattoo scandal. 452 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,040 A. 100% So now we control our destiny, we get to the Big 10 453 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,960 Championship and we are geeked. All we can practice. 454 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:44,880 We broke down on Big 10 champs. We got beat by 60. 455 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040 One of the many games that I've sadly wandered out of the 456 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,000 stadium at halftime be like, well, that that didn't go very 457 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,680 well. For whatever reason we just 458 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,480 never the Wisconsin teams of old and I don't think really anyone 459 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,640 matched up with them but the Monty Ball Melvin Gordon teams. 460 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,200 My dad. This is my favorite story about 461 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,680 any game that I played. I didn't even play again this 462 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,880 one either. This was at Wisconsin. 463 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,600 It was like 5° and my dad was there way early like he always 464 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,800 was. Went to the concession stand and 465 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,680 he's behind these five humans and they're ordering whatever 466 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,720 they're ordering and they turn around and it was all ladies. 467 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,320 We are in trouble. That looks like our offense 468 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,480 line. This is a power. 469 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,760 Towering over him and like we are not getting off a block. 470 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:46,440 All day. It's it's wow, lot of last, last 471 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,360 question for you. So you were at the Nebraska 472 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:56,280 game, you were out afterwards, but especially in the stadium. 473 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,080 I know you've never heard or seen Memorial Stadium quite like 474 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,360 that before. What was that like to experience 475 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,880 for you as someone who's been in that stadium a bunch, has been 476 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,360 on the field a bunch? Like what? 477 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,040 What was that vibe like for you seeing the stadium not just 478 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,480 full, but full of people that were like absolutely psyched to 479 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,560 watch IU play football. Yeah, definitely nothing I'd 480 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,480 ever seen. We got there at 6:45 in the 481 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:27,040 morning and I started getting emotional just driving past the 482 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,800 tailgate fields, past upstairs in Kilroy's with 1000 kids 483 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,160 waiting to get in there. Not just because they wanted to 484 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,040 drink, because they needed to be there early so they could get to 485 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,520 the game. And then my wife could tell you, 486 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,440 I don't think I spoke for the first quarter. 487 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,520 Just soak it in. Just bask. 488 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,720 It's so loud in there. I've never known that stadiums 489 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,520 are designed like if you go to Michigan and maybe it's because 490 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000 they're playing Indiana, it's but it's so flat so it doesn't. 491 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,400 All the noise doesn't get on you. 492 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Ohio State is built in the way that the noise is in your 493 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,040 helmet. Memorial Stadium is kind of like 494 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,240 that. When? 495 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,640 We were in on the field or shooting fireworks. 496 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,240 I couldn't imagine being on Nebraska's sideline. 497 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,360 That's a little different beast. And I know it's not 100,000, but 498 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,000 there's a, it's a different kind of place and it's just so 499 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160 special, man. And how fun is it? 500 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,840 All listeners, all of you listeners, how fun is it to be 501 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,200 in the stadium and make a difference? 502 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,160 Because it's, I don't think Indiana fans have really known 503 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,920 how big of a difference they can make in the outcome of a game. 504 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,120 They're a huge There's a reason that it's so hard to go into 505 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:50,280 Death Valley at LSU and win. Indiana has the ability to do 506 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,560 that, whether we like it or not. If you don't think that creamy 507 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,880 Crimson ran out of the stand or ran out of the locker room, 508 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,400 looked and saw a full stadium and weren't ready to win 50 to 509 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,240 nothing, you're crazy. How could you not want to go out 510 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,760 there and execute every single job that you have to the best of 511 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,960 your ability in front of a crowd like that? 512 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280 Well, and what's exciting about it is the the remainder of the 513 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840 home season is sold out, which is just wild to think about. 514 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,160 I mean, the four sellouts in a season is almost unprecedented. 515 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,440 Last time it happened was 1970 for IU. 516 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,360 And yeah, just nice. Yeah. 517 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,400 That was in our lifetimes, right? 518 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,200 But no, you're right. I mean, the ability to for IU 519 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,680 fans to go in, make a difference, be loud and have it 520 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,320 matter. I've been saying this for years. 521 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,280 You know, people would try the fans for not showing up or not 522 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,320 sticking around. And I'm like, I get, I get the 523 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,080 complaints, but you got to build it first. 524 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,280 Like, you really have to show people success. 525 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,400 And I mean, even the first couple of home games this 526 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,000 season, people were leaving at halftime. 527 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Signetti talked about it. You know, that Maryland game was 528 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,720 really kind of the first time where it felt like we were 529 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,400 almost there. And that was up to that point. 530 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960 As I've said on the show before, up to that point, that was my 531 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640 favorite Memorial Stadium experience, that Maryland game. 532 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Damn, it was still electric. Yeah, and, and the Nebraska game 533 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,120 blew it out of the water. Like everything about it was 534 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,440 just so perfect. It was like living in a movie 535 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560 for three hours. So I, I'm, it was, it was 536 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,840 interesting to hear your perspective on it 'cause you 537 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,080 know, I've, I've been in there a bunch of times when it's been 538 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,000 nowhere close that I know you have as well. 539 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,840 And I also have gotten emotional. 540 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,640 I've talked with a lot of people who are in my boat where you, 541 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,360 you're the Maryland game. I teared up a little bit at the 542 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 end 'cause I was like, I can't believe that they pulled this 543 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,360 off to this degree. And to be this much further down 544 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,280 the road already is, is really special. 545 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,640 And. It is right now. 546 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Just thinking about it, I saw Indiana put out like just a 5 547 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,880 second highlight on Instagram and it wasn't even the plays, it 548 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 was just the scans of the stands. 549 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,280 Gives me chills. It it's gonna, I can't imagine 550 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,520 what this weekend's gonna be like. 551 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,840 I gotta, I'll have to meet up with you again, man. 552 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,280 We'll have to have some fun. I'll be there bright and early. 553 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,480 I'm gonna I'm gonna be getting in line at 5:30 to park in the 554 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120 tailgate lot. So I will I will look for you or 555 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080 I will send you my info. Come on over. 556 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,040 We'll, we'll, we'll crack open a Hoosier game day logger and get 557 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,600 ready for the noon kick here. We'll Mitchell, we'll have you 558 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,160 on again soon. This was awesome. 559 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,320 I appreciate you joining us and appreciate everything you did in 560 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,520 uniform as well, so thank you and look forward to chat with 561 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,040 you again about IU football in the future. 562 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,920 Absolutely. Let's keep it going, baby. 563 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,480 Absolutely well thanks to all you folks for joining us as well 564 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,680 on our week of content here for football on Crimson cast. 565 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720 We got more tomorrow. Taylor Layman and I breaking 566 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,240 down the whole thing, Taylor from bite sized Bison with all 567 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,880 the numbers. Thanks to our sponsors at home 568 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Field Apparel and thanks to all you folks once again, be sure to 569 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,160 be out there and loud. Get into the stands, help 570 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,680 Indiana beat Washington. Coming up this weekend, I'm 571 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Galen Clavier. We'll catch you folks. 572 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,040 On the flip side, bring back the bison. 573 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,600 Stay never daunted. So long, everybody. 574 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080 Send off I. That's what I do.