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Galen Claudia joining you? Solo tonight, Friday, March 1st.
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Things I wanted to touch on before we got to the weekend,
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Anyway, let's talk. About a few items going on in IU
Sports land and it's going to break.
Things down first of all. I wanted to touch on women's
basketball real quick, of course.
A big win for them last. Week last Thursday, obviously.
That huge win against. Iowa, They follow that up with
a. Big win on the road.
On. Tuesday night as they.
Blew out. Northwestern.
It's kind of a track. Meet for a while, but it was,
you know, great to. See the women getting out there
and playing with such offensive freedom, Sydney Parish was back
in the starting lineup. Look really good and they'll be
playing again. This is really annoying for all
of us who are trying to follow both.
The men's and the women's team simultaneously.
Tuesday's game was. Right up.
Against the Indiana, Wisconsin game, and they both played
exactly the same time. The women's game got over a
little bit earlier, and then on Sunday, same things going to
happen. Indiana has.
Their season closer at? Home and Indiana men are on the
road at Maryland, so I'm going to have to bust.
Out the dual TV. Set up once again, but I will.
Gladly do it. Because obviously, the women
have been a tremendous amount of fun to watch.
Looking forward to seeing them close out.
The season in a strong. Way Big 10 titles.
Got to reach, unfortunately at this point, but still playing.
For seeding and really looking like an interesting Big 10
tournament, that's going to be taking place up in Minneapolis.
As. We are going to see.
Probably if if the. Seating.
Holds, we're go most. Certainly going to see Indiana
and Iowa if they win their first game matching up in the semi
finals. They're both 14 and 3.
Ohio State will win the league. They're 16 and one and it's just
going. To be a really interesting thing
to watch. As as Indiana and Iowa, who have
had very similar seasons. Iowa.
Ranked a bit higher, their 6th in the.
Country Indiana's 14th, but Indiana with a chance if they
can. Pull off the.
Season, not the sweep, but obviously, but win the two out
of three by winning that third game on a neutral.
Court against Iowa. That would go a long way towards
securing that home first and second round match up, so keep
an eye out for that. And again, we're going to see
the women in action one more time.
You might if you're in the Bloomington area, consider going
to that game. I'd highly recommend it.
They're trying to pack the arena as Indiana takes on Maryland to
close out their season, a team that they beat by 14 points
earlier on this season. As far as the men?
Are concerned obviously. A really good win for this
Indiana team earlier on in the week as they knocked off
Wisconsin. A bit of a surprise, I think.
To a lot of people. As Wisconsin has been a real.
Problem for Indiana? For the last 20 some years,
Indiana had not been. Playing very well, they lost
four in a row and. Five of six coming into that
game. They had lost pretty handily at
Wisconsin. There were some promising signs
in that Wisconsin game. I think for Indiana, I'm not.
Sure, how replicable the. The positive things that.
We saw were, but you know when you look at the.
Way that the game went, I mean first of all.
Khalil Ware. With just another tremendous
performance, I mean. 27 points 11.
Rebounds 4 for, four from. The free throw.
Line, which for Indiana's a big. Deal five blocks.
Only one turnover played 38. Minutes.
I mean he. Was really the reason why
Indiana won the game? And yes.
There were some good plays. Down the stretch, Trey.
Galloway with 12 assists. You know you got.
You know, pretty good shots at various.
Points from Mackenzie Imbacco. He had a couple.
Of big threes throughout. The course of the game he don't
hit. Free throws.
And Xavier Johnson? Even though he didn't have a
great offensive game and did have the five turnovers, it was
nice to see him back in uniform. Honestly wasn't expecting that.
Malik, Renew, obviously. He had kind of a good game and a
bad game. 14 points, 8 rebounds. That was crucial but but
certainly still struggling with foul issues.
And had a got a weird sequence at the.
End of that game anyway, I bring all.
That up, because it was. Really nice to see.
Indiana rally a bit and and pick themselves.
Up off the carpet, especially after the way they had lost
those previous four. Games, you know, blown out.
At Purdue, losing that Northwestern.
Game. Where they it really, it always
felt like. Northwestern was in control.
After the the first few minutes, the Nebraska game which was?
Just a disaster. And then the Penn State game on
the road. Which?
Was a pretty. Even game except for that.
One stretch where? Indiana.
Gave up eleven. Points in a row.
So at least you know there's a. Pulse with this Indiana team,
and that's good. They're going to need that.
Because obviously at this. Point the NCAA tournament's kind
of out the window. You're 15 and three.
You're 7:00 and 10:00. But.
Right now. It's like you got to play for
pride, you've got to play to try to set yourself up for not
having to. Play on Wednesday in the Big 10.
Tournament avoiding. The.
The. 11:14 and 12:00. 13 games that.
You have to play if you're, you know the those.
Wednesday games if you're. At the.
Bottom of the standings and. It's a it's a dogfight, right?
Now I mean there. Are basically.
You know Michigan's going to be in the 14 see like they are.
Michigan is adrift, but you've got Penn.
State at 8:00 and 10:00 right now.
Rutgers at 7 and 10, Indiana at 7:00 and. 10 but behind Rutgers.
Because of the tiebreaker. Maryland at 7:00 and 11:00
Indiana has the. Tiebreaker on them, but they
could lose that if they lose the game.
To Maryland and they fall 1/2 game back and then Ohio.
State Who's surging right? Now and Ohio State gets to host
Michigan this weekend, so they're probably going to go to
8:00 and 11:00, so. This is a really.
Critical game for Indiana coming into this Maryland game this
weekend and I. I don't know how they're going
to play. I mean, Maryland is is really
bad. Offensively, like, as much as
people have complained about Indiana's offensive problems,
Maryland. Is they're not Rutgers.
Bad, because that is a special category of hellish offensive.
Performance, but Maryland's pretty.
Bad 160. Second, in the country and
within the conference. They're 13th out of 14.
Teams barely behind Michigan, but defensively, Maryland is.
Very, very, very good. They're one of the top teams in
the country, believe. It or not in defensive
efficiency, and it's got to. Absolutely burn their fans up
that they're wasting an incredible defensive year.
With how badly they have played offensively over the course of
the. Season.
You know, it's interesting because if you go back and look
at that game Indiana played against Maryland, it wasn't like
Indiana played. I'm talking about the one back
in at the. Beginning of December, Indiana.
Didn't. Play offensively that well.
In that game, they were under. A point per.
Possession at home they only. Shot 48%.
From two, they didn't take very many threes.
They hit three out of nine in that game.
But Maryland was God awful offensively.
They. They were at point.
Eight points per possession. And.
Two for 16 from three, they just.
They really. Could not make things happen and
and you know the the key in that game for Indiana was how good
Indiana was on the offensive glass.
Trey, Galloway and Mackenzie and.
Bacco both had three offensive rebounds.
Ware, Banks and Sparks all had two offensive rebounds.
They were two. Team offensive rebounds,
Indiana. Grabbed 43% of offensive boards.
It was a It was. Maybe Indiana's?
Best offensive rebounding. Performance of the season I I At
least in the Big 10, it feels that way.
But Maryland's gotten. Better you know that.
This is the thing that I think is concerning and we've talked
about it a. Little bit on the podcast before
it's like. Maryland has been closer than
Indiana in most of the games. That they've played here over
the Really. Since really?
Since the the beginning of of 2024.
They they they got blown out by Purdue at home.
But then they. Lost by three to.
Minnesota. They beat Michigan by 7.
They beat Illinois by 9. On the road, that's still.
Probably the most inexplicable. Outcome that we've seen in the
Big 10. So far this year, 3 point loss
to Northwestern 2 point. Loss to Michigan State Two point
win against. Iowa Huge blowout.
Win at home against. Nebraska And so on and so.
Forth, I mean, they've had very few games where they were just
out of it, and they've had a couple of games where.
Things have just clicked. For them.
So in this game, I guess what concerns me is that if if
Maryland can put together some kind of an offensive.
Performance, where they're at least scoring like a point per.
Possession I do. Worry about Indiana's ability to
match them. Offensively, if they're going
to. Let Maryland score.
And I think Maryland's going to make it hard on Indiana to
score. And I do wonder to some degree
with this Indiana team. Like what is their mentality?
They come off a big win. For them, relatively speaking.
I mean, obviously beating Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is not. Where they were earlier in the
year, but. It's still a nice.
Way to kind of right the ship. So then what?
You know, how does Indiana put themselves in a position?
Where they're like, OK, now you're going on the road and
you're playing a team that you've beaten already, which
that's. Difficult and you beat.
Them pretty handily. We we've seen this time and time
again, not just with Indiana but with other teams.
It's hard to get. Up for a team that you've
already handled. For the most part earlier.
On in the season. And you just kind of factor in
like Indiana's defense? Was was pretty good.
Against that, in that Wisconsin game.
I mean, it wasn't. Exemplary, they allowed 1.11.
Points per possession. But Indiana scored better.
And so ultimately for Indiana. They need to take the same.
Number of threes or more that. They took in that.
Wisconsin game as a. Minimum.
They took fourteen in that game. Indiana has not.
Shot well on the. Rd.
You know, can they put themselves in a position where
they're scoring enough points that Maryland just can't keep
up? Because that's essentially been
Maryland's MO for most of the season.
I'm really curious to see what the team's mentality looks like
and how they handle this, because I am.
I'm. I'm still unconvinced that this
Indiana team is. Like, really got it.
Figured out and and yet I want to see them continue.
To build back towards. A team that is dangerous to play
on a nightly basis, which they kind of lost.
There for large sections of February, so we'll.
See what happens and. I think, I say.
That every time I'm previewing a game, and it's true, we will.
See what? Happens.
I have no clue, no, no vibe off of this game.
I'm I'm not even sure who they'll favor.
I'm. Assuming that Maryland will.
Be a pretty. Decent favorite.
Just because that's what the advanced statistics are saying
right now, you know. But this is where it's
interesting. Because if you look at.
Ken. Palm.
It's projecting Maryland. As an 8 point favorite in this
game, which that's pretty. Wild.
Considering Indiana's already beaten Maryland.
By 12 at home. That's a huge swing, but it's
indicative of how bad Indiana has played.
And how Maryland has been closer than I think people realize.
To being a functional team and. You know all you have.
To do is just kind of. This is where the.
Advanced statistics. Will tell a tale.
Sometimes that the record does not.
You know, despite both. Indiana and Maryland having
essentially the same record, 15 and 13 for Indiana, 15 and 14
for Maryland. Maryland is 48th in adjusted
efficiency. So they're that means they're
48th in Kenpalm and Indiana is 101st.
And you know if you look at Maryland from a.
Statistical perspective. We've talked about this a little
bit. The luck.
Statistic If you follow Ken Palm a lot, a lot of people don't.
Understand what that means. The luck statistic basically
says. Given the statistical profile.
Of how you have played so far, your record is either above or
below that based upon what we would.
Expect it to be from your performance in Indiana's case.
They are considered one of the luckiest.
Teams in college. Basketball.
They're. 18th in the country in the luck statistic, which means
that the statistics say Indiana's record should actually
be. Worse than it is.
And and yet Indiana's won some extra games.
Maryland's the exact opposite. Maryland's luck statistic is 300
and. 60th in college basketball, which is.
I mean, there's only 360. Two teams in college basketball.
This year that gives. You an idea of.
How well Maryland has played despite.
Not having the wins to show for it, that should be concerning
and that's why it's an 8 point gap on Ken Palm, so Indiana.
You know they need to try to bottle whatever emotion.
They had and whatever focus they had in that Wisconsin game try
to apply it to this one and. You know, play better defense.
You know that. Still keeps coming back to me as
the primary thing, the effort on.
Defense against. Wisconsin was better than it had
been for the previous four games.
They've got to figure out a way to make it even better than that
if they're going to have a chance against Maryland on
Sunday, so hopefully they'll be able to do that.
I wanted to bring up something else, so I'm going to transition
to. A kind of a broader scale.
Topic It's March 1st of 2024. This is, you know, it feels like
deja vu for IU fans because after a couple of years of at
least being in. The tournament picture IU now
finds itself. Back out of the.
Tournament picture decisively this time, you know.
In the Archie Miller era, yeah, obviously the COVID year.
Indiana was kind of in the mix and was probably going to make
the NCAA tournament. And then the tournament got.
Cancelled the previous year. That that 2019 year Indiana was
in the mix. They were.
They were borderline, but they were clearly close.
They were one of the first four teams out of the tournament
because. They were a one seed in the NIT
and. And then in the.
Previous. Year they They really weren't in
the mix. But they were.
Kind of. They were on.
At least the the peripheral bubble to you know to kind of
early as you. You know you got into the
middle. Part of February.
That team was nine and seven in the conference, 16 and 12.
They were on a four-game winning streak and you thought, well,
gosh, if they win their last two games against.
Nebraska and Ohio State. You know, they'd be 18 and 12:00
and 11:00 and 7:00. They might make it and that
didn't happen. And my.
Point in all that? Is this is another March where
IU as a program and IU fans are on the sideline and it's.
It stinks. It's, it's.
Really hard. And it's sad, you know, I think
if you're an IU fan or if you're someone that that cares about
the program. To watch this.
Being the you know. Again, kind of where?
Indiana's AT and. Obviously there's a twist.
This time around, which? Is that there's a.
Tremendous amount of. For those of you who are not.
Terminally online, like some of us, there's a.
Lot of conversation going on right now, obviously about the
program about you know what's what's the disposition of Mike
Woodson, you know there's been a lot.
Of those. Types of conversations being had
and. You know, I advise everybody to
go. Listen to the state of the.
Program. Podcast that assembly.
Call Did. The last two podcasts that we
did. The one that Scott and I did and
then the one that we had Tony Adrania on, we hit a lot of
those topics. We we're not going to go over
that again. I just.
I guess to me, I think it's it's it's important to communicate.
How sad. All of this feels because it
just, you know, IU. Fans and.
IU as a program overall it just every.
Time there feels like there's some kind of momentum.
It's like something drops out of the sky to just.
Stop it in its. Tracks that has gotten so old
for so many people and. When I talk with.
Fans obviously living in Bloomington, I talk.
With a ton of people about IU basketball.
Specifically, and it's at a point now.
Where it just feels like people. Are throwing their hands up and
they're like I. I don't know why.
I'm bothering to care and it's not to.
The point where people. Don't care because if they.
Didn't care, they just. Wouldn't bring it up.
People bringing up IU basketball.
And talking about the issues, it's like.
They clearly still care if you go out of your way to say.
How much you don't care about something, you still care about
something. And and I don't think people are
even there quite to that point. Yet.
But I think there's just a level of exasperation that after a
couple of years of what looked like positive.
Progress. It's been this tremendous
regression and this, you know, increasingly kind of feels like
the norm. Not the exception.
When it comes to IU, because it's been that way since
essential. Really.
For the last. Decade, I mean.
You know, you think about the way if you're.
Old enough to remember. How you felt coming off that
2013 season and then that 2014 fourteen season dropping out of
the sky in Indiana, missing the tournament.
You know, that felt like a. Speed.
Bump, but you know. Momentarily, you thought.
OK. Maybe things will be fine.
And then the next year wasn't very good and then the year
after that obviously was was. Surprising and very good.
But then the next. Year after that.
The wheels fall off, then you're into a.
Coaching change? Then it's you like you're
waiting for things to. Get going.
And then they never get going under Miller.
So I look at this and it's like another instance of people
trying to get excited about the program.
People getting fully invested. You know, people.
Traveling to go watch the team and not only.
Are they not? Seeing IU.
Perform the way that. You you know that any fan would
hope that their team would perform, but now you've watched
another kind of deevolution of the.
Program over the course of. You know, mid January.
To the end of. February, and now you're out of
the tournament. Picture again and.
It's not a good. Spot.
You know, I mean, you've got, obviously there's been a lot of
chatter about recruiting situations.
There's been a lot of chat. I mean there.
We've talked on this podcast about the lack.
Of clear targets or clear recruiting?
You know developments for Indiana.
They're going into an offseason with with a single.
Player currently committed. They're going to have to hit the
portal. Very heavy.
And there's some contradictions in going that direction.
When you think about the things that have been said during the
course of this season about why this season isn't going well.
It's just a very. Daunting thing if you're really
paying attention as an IU fan and it's not putting anybody in
a. Good mindset it's not.
Really putting anybody in a good light, you know and and.
It's now we're back. To once again people getting mad
at each other. For one thing, or.
Another. Whether that is?
Fans blaming other fans. For not being.
Supportive enough or for on the flip side?
Not caring enough. About the trajectory of the
program. To to be concerned about things
you've got. You know all these reports that
are coming in, and a lot of them are anonymously sourced, so it's
hard to say how true or how false they are about infighting.
Within the IU basketball family, not the, not the people like
obviously on the coaching staff, but like in the broader alumni
base, I mean it's. Just.
Over and over again it. Just kind of feels like IU
basketball is Is this ever revolving soap opera?
I'm not. I don't think I'm breaking news
to. Anybody in this?
In this audience about it and I don't think anybody knows what's
going to actually happen. I and I think.
It's still a very. Good chance that nothing you
know. Unusual or untoward happens.
That. That, Yeah, you just go into the
offseason. With the status quo and try to
rebuild as. Best you can based upon what's
out. There in the portal.
That's a bit. Daunting given how?
Difficult It's been for. Teams with a lot of.
Portal players to to put that group together and have them.
Play coherently. I think for a lot of IU.
Fans, It's like, what? Can we just get the season over
at this point? Can we just stop?
Talking about it and thinking about it and can.
We instead just kind of move on to to football for it, which is
of all things. It's wild.
I love it. Obviously, I mean we've.
We've supported football here on Crimson.
Cast for a long. Time and talked.
About it, but the the number of people for whom the basketball
season has almost. Become a burden.
Down the stretch as opposed to. From an emotional perspective.
As opposed to being. Something that you're interested
in and celebrating is. It's it's the worst.
Kind. Of repeat.
Performance and it's. The worst kind of deja vu for
IU. Fans and you know I I keep
coming back to. This this core idea, which is.
At some point, it would be nice to just have a program that is
consistently good enough that people can feel good about it.
And it just feels like it's been forever for IU.
To get to that. Point There's no larger point to
this particular part of the podcast.
Other than a lament. That this.
Is where Indiana finds. Itself yet again and I think.
Maybe on top of that? The biggest lament in all of it.
From my perspective, is the lack of clarity about what?
Might make it better. If you're the type of.
Person who thinks that. Indiana needs to make a change.
There's no guarantee as we've. Seen now multiple times that a
change is going to make everything better.
And there's a chance. That a change could make things
worse. On the flip side, if you're the
type of. Person.
Who thinks that no change should be?
Made and and that any talk like. That is very premature.
As we talked about on the previous podcast, it's hard to
figure out OK, what take take where things are.
Currently at not right. Now like logistically what is
the route forward that? Allows things to get better and
I think that's that's a different kind of spot from
where IU fans have been in the. Past.
You know, it felt like. By the end of Queen's time.
Most people felt very definitively like, yeah.
It's, it's. Time to move on.
Like the the the fire's gone out.
So to speak, the honeymoon. Period's over to.
Borrow a phrase from Ex's and Joes.
You know, with Archie, it absolutely felt that way.
And I don't know that everybody. I don't know.
I'm not sure, people. Felt that way, like New Year's.
Day of 2021 with Archie but. The way that that.
Season. Devolved down the stretch.
You know it It. Became clear very quickly.
That this was not going to work and you know that team finished
12 and 15 like. Even though I think.
That firing. Was still a surprise to some
people. It.
Because IA lot of. People, myself included, thought
there would be another another year given people.
Were ready to move on. This has been so sudden and on
it and the the. The bottom.
Dropping out of IU. Basketball.
Just kind of. Felt like it it.
Came out of nowhere. There were some warning signs
earlier this season, but nothing that would have.
Indicated that it would. Have gotten this.
Far off track. So it is.
It is kind of uncharted waters for Indiana because in.
In the last few instances it was like, well, there's a clear
break point. And here.
I don't think there's a clear break point in the.
Minds of a. Lot of people or even if there
is. There's not any clear consensus
about how that goes down or what that might.
Look like or. Or whether that would even be
the best thing to begin with. There's just a lot of of stuff.
And I. Look, I'm not.
There's. There's things that are that are
being covered. By a variety of.
Different paid media. I'm not going to talk.
About those things. Specifically, I think that.
You should go. Find those things.
Yourself, if you're interested and and you know, really.
Kind of soak all of it in. And try to make a judgement if
you're if you're interested in it and that.
But if you're not, I can certainly understand that as
well, because at. The end of the day, what you're
dealing with is a. Situation where there's a.
Lot out there. And there's a lot.
Of of differing opinions. There's a lot of.
Things being that that are being.
Played out in in a kind of a quasi.
Public, or at least you know public with.
Anonymity approach to things. That don't look good for the
basketball. Program don't look good.
For the university. But are to me a clear.
Indicator that there is. A real.
Behind the scenes. Battle going on about what
direction everything's going and.
It's going to be interesting. To see how it plays out.
My at this point my lone. Hope is that like just.
Just get the program back on track somehow.
Because after two years that we're pretty good.
You're back. To a season that.
Just does not live up. To anywhere close to.
Even like the average standard that most IU fans and certainly
I think IU administration would want the program to be in.
And yet the fans are still there.
You know, there's the joke about like the.
You know, the, the, the. Truly Donovan social media
account that has. Become very popular.
That has a lot of insider basketball news.
Has a. A paid Discord channel.
And there was. There was a post.
Today on on X. About.
The the amount of IU fans that have invaded that.
Space that are just all over the place.
Like the number of IU fans that are out there that are.
Clearly, like, very heavily. Engaged and you know are are
very passionate one way or another about where things are
AT is, is is pretty impressive for a program that frankly just
hasn't had much success at all over the last 20 years.
You know when you take things in totality, it's just it's the,
the. The people are still there, I.
Guess would be the message that I would take.
Out of that, the people are still there.
The fans are are waiting. And this?
Season has played out. About as poorly as you you would
hope it would for those people because.
There have not been a lot. Of actual highlights.
There's not been a lot of like terribly impressive games that,
you know, you get the ray of Sunshine game like you get
against Wisconsin, but that. Follows 4 games that I think
really had a lot of people completely turned.
Off about the the trajectory of the program and way things were
going, so. We will see what happens.
You know I I. I think to some.
Degree. A lot of people have gotten dug
in at this. Point about what?
Their. Attitudes are towards the
program and towards, you know, towards the the coaching.
Of the. Program and and the the program
and roster management and and this is going to be a really
interesting thing. How does this season?
End. Do.
Do hearts and minds get changed one way or the other on either
side of that spectrum, and how does it end up playing out?
That is going to be a really interesting thing to watch.
But I also don't, I don't anticipate.
That many of you are going. To necessarily want to stick.
Around for all the. Gory details.
So anyway, we will see what happens as we move forward with
all of this. I hope you all.
Have a wonderful weekend? Be sure to listen to the
Crimson. Cast women's.
Basketball show. Amanda.
Foster and Kevin Vera with some good.
Insights on what we saw earlier this week against Northwestern.
And what to expect on Senior Day?
As we will see. Mackenzie.
Holmes for the last. Time in Assembly Hall and maybe
among. Others we'll we'll.
We'll see. So anyway, check that podcast
out. It's on the Crimson cast feed.
I appreciate you all for indulging me a little bit here
on a Friday night. And I look forward to speaking
with you all again soon. We will have coverage after the
Maryland game and I would also advise everybody to tune into
Assembly Call as they break. Things down immediately.
After the fact for the folks here at the.
Back home network. I'm Galen Clavio.
Thanks for joining us. Bring back the Bison.
That's all everybody.