1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,040 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast. 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,560 Galen Claudia joining you? Solo tonight, Friday, March 1st. 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Happy March. We sleep in May. 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,400 Whatever the the phraseology goes, we are in what is normally 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,000 the happiest. Time of the year. 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 For basketball and. Looking forward to following 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,520 along. Unfortunately, from afar it 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,600 feels like at. Least on men's basketball, Side 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,440 of things, women's basketball still. 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Very much in the thick of potentially getting to host. 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,040 A first and 2nd. Round set of games at Assembly 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Hall. Anyway, lots going on across 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,480 the. Country in basketball. 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Throughout the course of this month, this will be a relatively 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,920 short podcast. Got a couple? 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Things I wanted to touch on before we got to the weekend, 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,920 so. Hopefully we'll have some things 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,600 of interest to you here as we talk through. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,880 Everything today before we get into the main. 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Portion of the podcast. Just a reminder, we're brought 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,160 to you by Home Field Apparel your place to. 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,400 Go for the finest in college fashions, the. 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Softest fabrics. The coolest? 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Designs. I have talked many times about 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,680 how home. Field always seems to have. 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Something up their sleeve. And today they unleashed. 3rd 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,840 month Mania, 14 days of deals and. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Drops starting this coming Monday. 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,760 With the the battle. Of 19. 79 which I can only. 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Assume it has something. To do with the Penn. 32 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:46,840 Quakers. No, I'm kidding. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Obviously. Indiana State and Michigan 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,000 State. But a lot of stuff going on 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,800 throughout the course of the schedule we've I'm looking at 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,560 this schedule right now that home field released. 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,680 They've got a Lady Vols Day. They've got Phi. 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Slamma Jamma Day. That could be fun. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,600 They got Yukon Day. For those of you who believe in 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,480 that. Kind of thing. 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,840 I think the thing that caught everybody by the most surprise 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,120 is jerseys day and shooting shirts day, which I don't 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,040 believe we've seen jerseys or shooting. 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Shirts before from the home field. 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,360 Crowd, I'm looking forward. To seeing what they come up with 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,240 all that. So that's all coming up later. 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,200 On this month you want to subscribe to Home Field's 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,320 newsletter. You should. 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Go to homefieldapparel.com. And do that. 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,080 That way you'll know. Immediately. 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,040 When things are dropping. If you've ordered from them, 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,560 you're probably. On the mailing list and if you 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,360 haven't. You should use the code home 20. 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Three and save 15%. Off your first order, So head 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,440 over there. Subscribe. 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Follow them on social media. Keep up. 57 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,760 With what they're dropping throughout the course of the. 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Month. It should be awesome again. 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Home field. Apparel.com Proud Sponsor of. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Not just Crimson cast, but the entire back home network. 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Also, just a reminder folks. That we are on sub stack here on 62 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Crimson cast go to crimsoncast.substack.com. 63 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Consider a free subscription. Where we deliver the. 64 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,200 Podcast right to your. Inbox We've also got. 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,800 The paid. Subscription You get video 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,600 thoughts on a variety of things going on in the college sports 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,360 landscape, and sometimes beyond that. 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,680 So head over there if you'd like to think about a. 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,960 Subscription, even a free one would be helpful. 70 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,280 We'll get. You into the community? 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,120 We'll look forward to seeing you there. 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,280 Anyway, let's talk. About a few items going on in IU 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,640 Sports land and it's going to break. 74 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,760 Things down first of all. I wanted to touch on women's 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,280 basketball real quick, of course. 76 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:36,160 A big win for them last. Week last Thursday, obviously. 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 That huge win against. Iowa, They follow that up with 78 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,160 a. Big win on the road. 79 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,720 On. Tuesday night as they. 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Blew out. Northwestern. 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,320 It's kind of a track. Meet for a while, but it was, 82 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,640 you know, great to. See the women getting out there 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 and playing with such offensive freedom, Sydney Parish was back 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,320 in the starting lineup. Look really good and they'll be 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,960 playing again. This is really annoying for all 86 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,120 of us who are trying to follow both. 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,000 The men's and the women's team simultaneously. 88 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Tuesday's game was. Right up. 89 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Against the Indiana, Wisconsin game, and they both played 90 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,160 exactly the same time. The women's game got over a 91 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,400 little bit earlier, and then on Sunday, same things going to 92 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,560 happen. Indiana has. 93 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,600 Their season closer at? Home and Indiana men are on the 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,240 road at Maryland, so I'm going to have to bust. 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Out the dual TV. Set up once again, but I will. 96 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Gladly do it. Because obviously, the women 97 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,680 have been a tremendous amount of fun to watch. 98 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,600 Looking forward to seeing them close out. 99 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,680 The season in a strong. Way Big 10 titles. 100 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,640 Got to reach, unfortunately at this point, but still playing. 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,840 For seeding and really looking like an interesting Big 10 102 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:46,920 tournament, that's going to be taking place up in Minneapolis. 103 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,000 As. We are going to see. 104 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,760 Probably if if the. Seating. 105 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Holds, we're go most. Certainly going to see Indiana 106 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,840 and Iowa if they win their first game matching up in the semi 107 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:01,480 finals. They're both 14 and 3. 108 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Ohio State will win the league. They're 16 and one and it's just 109 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,480 going. To be a really interesting thing 110 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,840 to watch. As as Indiana and Iowa, who have 111 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:12,560 had very similar seasons. Iowa. 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Ranked a bit higher, their 6th in the. 113 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Country Indiana's 14th, but Indiana with a chance if they 114 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,720 can. Pull off the. 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Season, not the sweep, but obviously, but win the two out 116 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,640 of three by winning that third game on a neutral. 117 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Court against Iowa. That would go a long way towards 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,120 securing that home first and second round match up, so keep 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,800 an eye out for that. And again, we're going to see 120 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,080 the women in action one more time. 121 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,640 You might if you're in the Bloomington area, consider going 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,320 to that game. I'd highly recommend it. 123 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,760 They're trying to pack the arena as Indiana takes on Maryland to 124 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,440 close out their season, a team that they beat by 14 points 125 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,040 earlier on this season. As far as the men? 126 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Are concerned obviously. A really good win for this 127 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Indiana team earlier on in the week as they knocked off 128 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Wisconsin. A bit of a surprise, I think. 129 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,920 To a lot of people. As Wisconsin has been a real. 130 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Problem for Indiana? For the last 20 some years, 131 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Indiana had not been. Playing very well, they lost 132 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,600 four in a row and. Five of six coming into that 133 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,120 game. They had lost pretty handily at 134 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,120 Wisconsin. There were some promising signs 135 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,080 in that Wisconsin game. I think for Indiana, I'm not. 136 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Sure, how replicable the. The positive things that. 137 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,000 We saw were, but you know when you look at the. 138 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,800 Way that the game went, I mean first of all. 139 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Khalil Ware. With just another tremendous 140 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,400 performance, I mean. 27 points 11. 141 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,040 Rebounds 4 for, four from. The free throw. 142 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Line, which for Indiana's a big. Deal five blocks. 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Only one turnover played 38. Minutes. 144 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,160 I mean he. Was really the reason why 145 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,800 Indiana won the game? And yes. 146 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,440 There were some good plays. Down the stretch, Trey. 147 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,760 Galloway with 12 assists. You know you got. 148 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,480 You know, pretty good shots at various. 149 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,720 Points from Mackenzie Imbacco. He had a couple. 150 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Of big threes throughout. The course of the game he don't 151 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,520 hit. Free throws. 152 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,880 And Xavier Johnson? Even though he didn't have a 153 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,480 great offensive game and did have the five turnovers, it was 154 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,840 nice to see him back in uniform. Honestly wasn't expecting that. 155 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Malik, Renew, obviously. He had kind of a good game and a 156 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,520 bad game. 14 points, 8 rebounds. That was crucial but but 157 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,480 certainly still struggling with foul issues. 158 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,680 And had a got a weird sequence at the. 159 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,400 End of that game anyway, I bring all. 160 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 That up, because it was. Really nice to see. 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Indiana rally a bit and and pick themselves. 162 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Up off the carpet, especially after the way they had lost 163 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,560 those previous four. Games, you know, blown out. 164 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,840 At Purdue, losing that Northwestern. 165 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Game. Where they it really, it always 166 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,800 felt like. Northwestern was in control. 167 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,560 After the the first few minutes, the Nebraska game which was? 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,640 Just a disaster. And then the Penn State game on 169 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,400 the road. Which? 170 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Was a pretty. Even game except for that. 171 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,880 One stretch where? Indiana. 172 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Gave up eleven. Points in a row. 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,600 So at least you know there's a. Pulse with this Indiana team, 174 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,760 and that's good. They're going to need that. 175 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Because obviously at this. Point the NCAA tournament's kind 176 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,240 of out the window. You're 15 and three. 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,440 You're 7:00 and 10:00. But. 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Right now. It's like you got to play for 179 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,000 pride, you've got to play to try to set yourself up for not 180 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,560 having to. Play on Wednesday in the Big 10. 181 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Tournament avoiding. The. 182 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,200 The. 11:14 and 12:00. 13 games that. 183 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,480 You have to play if you're, you know the those. 184 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Wednesday games if you're. At the. 185 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Bottom of the standings and. It's a it's a dogfight, right? 186 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Now I mean there. Are basically. 187 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,880 You know Michigan's going to be in the 14 see like they are. 188 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Michigan is adrift, but you've got Penn. 189 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,720 State at 8:00 and 10:00 right now. 190 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Rutgers at 7 and 10, Indiana at 7:00 and. 10 but behind Rutgers. 191 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Because of the tiebreaker. Maryland at 7:00 and 11:00 192 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Indiana has the. Tiebreaker on them, but they 193 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,680 could lose that if they lose the game. 194 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,400 To Maryland and they fall 1/2 game back and then Ohio. 195 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,240 State Who's surging right? Now and Ohio State gets to host 196 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Michigan this weekend, so they're probably going to go to 197 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,000 8:00 and 11:00, so. This is a really. 198 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Critical game for Indiana coming into this Maryland game this 199 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,240 weekend and I. I don't know how they're going 200 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,040 to play. I mean, Maryland is is really 201 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,720 bad. Offensively, like, as much as 202 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,320 people have complained about Indiana's offensive problems, 203 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,280 Maryland. Is they're not Rutgers. 204 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,680 Bad, because that is a special category of hellish offensive. 205 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:27,040 Performance, but Maryland's pretty. 206 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Bad 160. Second, in the country and 207 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,200 within the conference. They're 13th out of 14. 208 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,960 Teams barely behind Michigan, but defensively, Maryland is. 209 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Very, very, very good. They're one of the top teams in 210 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,520 the country, believe. It or not in defensive 211 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,080 efficiency, and it's got to. Absolutely burn their fans up 212 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,120 that they're wasting an incredible defensive year. 213 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,800 With how badly they have played offensively over the course of 214 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,400 the. Season. 215 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,200 You know, it's interesting because if you go back and look 216 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,440 at that game Indiana played against Maryland, it wasn't like 217 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Indiana played. I'm talking about the one back 218 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,080 in at the. Beginning of December, Indiana. 219 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Didn't. Play offensively that well. 220 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,240 In that game, they were under. A point per. 221 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,760 Possession at home they only. Shot 48%. 222 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,080 From two, they didn't take very many threes. 223 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,760 They hit three out of nine in that game. 224 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,120 But Maryland was God awful offensively. 225 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,280 They. They were at point. 226 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Eight points per possession. And. 227 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,680 Two for 16 from three, they just. 228 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,800 They really. Could not make things happen and 229 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,000 and you know the the key in that game for Indiana was how good 230 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Indiana was on the offensive glass. 231 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Trey, Galloway and Mackenzie and. 232 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,840 Bacco both had three offensive rebounds. 233 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,520 Ware, Banks and Sparks all had two offensive rebounds. 234 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,280 They were two. Team offensive rebounds, 235 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,440 Indiana. Grabbed 43% of offensive boards. 236 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280 It was a It was. Maybe Indiana's? 237 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Best offensive rebounding. Performance of the season I I At 238 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,760 least in the Big 10, it feels that way. 239 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,440 But Maryland's gotten. Better you know that. 240 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,800 This is the thing that I think is concerning and we've talked 241 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,080 about it a. Little bit on the podcast before 242 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,280 it's like. Maryland has been closer than 243 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Indiana in most of the games. That they've played here over 244 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,920 the Really. Since really? 245 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Since the the beginning of of 2024. 246 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:19,440 They they they got blown out by Purdue at home. 247 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,000 But then they. Lost by three to. 248 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,080 Minnesota. They beat Michigan by 7. 249 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,200 They beat Illinois by 9. On the road, that's still. 250 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,600 Probably the most inexplicable. Outcome that we've seen in the 251 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Big 10. So far this year, 3 point loss 252 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,880 to Northwestern 2 point. Loss to Michigan State Two point 253 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,400 win against. Iowa Huge blowout. 254 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,880 Win at home against. Nebraska And so on and so. 255 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Forth, I mean, they've had very few games where they were just 256 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,360 out of it, and they've had a couple of games where. 257 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Things have just clicked. For them. 258 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,280 So in this game, I guess what concerns me is that if if 259 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Maryland can put together some kind of an offensive. 260 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:53,080 Performance, where they're at least scoring like a point per. 261 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,160 Possession I do. Worry about Indiana's ability to 262 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,880 match them. Offensively, if they're going 263 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,640 to. Let Maryland score. 264 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,240 And I think Maryland's going to make it hard on Indiana to 265 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,080 score. And I do wonder to some degree 266 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 with this Indiana team. Like what is their mentality? 267 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,840 They come off a big win. For them, relatively speaking. 268 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,320 I mean, obviously beating Wisconsin. 269 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Wisconsin is not. Where they were earlier in the 270 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,640 year, but. It's still a nice. 271 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Way to kind of right the ship. So then what? 272 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:27,360 You know, how does Indiana put themselves in a position? 273 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,080 Where they're like, OK, now you're going on the road and 274 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,560 you're playing a team that you've beaten already, which 275 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,320 that's. Difficult and you beat. 276 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Them pretty handily. We we've seen this time and time 277 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,120 again, not just with Indiana but with other teams. 278 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,000 It's hard to get. Up for a team that you've 279 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,080 already handled. For the most part earlier. 280 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,040 On in the season. And you just kind of factor in 281 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,920 like Indiana's defense? Was was pretty good. 282 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Against that, in that Wisconsin game. 283 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,440 I mean, it wasn't. Exemplary, they allowed 1.11. 284 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Points per possession. But Indiana scored better. 285 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,200 And so ultimately for Indiana. They need to take the same. 286 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Number of threes or more that. They took in that. 287 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Wisconsin game as a. Minimum. 288 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,800 They took fourteen in that game. Indiana has not. 289 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,920 Shot well on the. Rd. 290 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,960 You know, can they put themselves in a position where 291 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,760 they're scoring enough points that Maryland just can't keep 292 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,840 up? Because that's essentially been 293 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,040 Maryland's MO for most of the season. 294 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,440 I'm really curious to see what the team's mentality looks like 295 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,840 and how they handle this, because I am. 296 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,440 I'm. I'm still unconvinced that this 297 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Indiana team is. Like, really got it. 298 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Figured out and and yet I want to see them continue. 299 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,840 To build back towards. A team that is dangerous to play 300 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,040 on a nightly basis, which they kind of lost. 301 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 There for large sections of February, so we'll. 302 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,440 See what happens and. I think, I say. 303 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,800 That every time I'm previewing a game, and it's true, we will. 304 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,520 See what? Happens. 305 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,360 I have no clue, no, no vibe off of this game. 306 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:56,760 I'm I'm not even sure who they'll favor. 307 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,680 I'm. Assuming that Maryland will. 308 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:00,720 Be a pretty. Decent favorite. 309 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,680 Just because that's what the advanced statistics are saying 310 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,320 right now, you know. But this is where it's 311 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,000 interesting. Because if you look at. 312 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:08,720 Ken. Palm. 313 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,680 It's projecting Maryland. As an 8 point favorite in this 314 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,480 game, which that's pretty. Wild. 315 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Considering Indiana's already beaten Maryland. 316 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,400 By 12 at home. That's a huge swing, but it's 317 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,360 indicative of how bad Indiana has played. 318 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,040 And how Maryland has been closer than I think people realize. 319 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,760 To being a functional team and. You know all you have. 320 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,720 To do is just kind of. This is where the. 321 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Advanced statistics. Will tell a tale. 322 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Sometimes that the record does not. 323 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,080 You know, despite both. Indiana and Maryland having 324 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,880 essentially the same record, 15 and 13 for Indiana, 15 and 14 325 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,680 for Maryland. Maryland is 48th in adjusted 326 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,440 efficiency. So they're that means they're 327 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,960 48th in Kenpalm and Indiana is 101st. 328 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,640 And you know if you look at Maryland from a. 329 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,120 Statistical perspective. We've talked about this a little 330 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,040 bit. The luck. 331 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Statistic If you follow Ken Palm a lot, a lot of people don't. 332 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Understand what that means. The luck statistic basically 333 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,840 says. Given the statistical profile. 334 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Of how you have played so far, your record is either above or 335 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,480 below that based upon what we would. 336 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Expect it to be from your performance in Indiana's case. 337 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,840 They are considered one of the luckiest. 338 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Teams in college. Basketball. 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,240 They're. 18th in the country in the luck statistic, which means 340 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,280 that the statistics say Indiana's record should actually 341 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,640 be. Worse than it is. 342 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,680 And and yet Indiana's won some extra games. 343 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,520 Maryland's the exact opposite. Maryland's luck statistic is 300 344 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,600 and. 60th in college basketball, which is. 345 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,920 I mean, there's only 360. Two teams in college basketball. 346 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,000 This year that gives. You an idea of. 347 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,280 How well Maryland has played despite. 348 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Not having the wins to show for it, that should be concerning 349 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,120 and that's why it's an 8 point gap on Ken Palm, so Indiana. 350 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,520 You know they need to try to bottle whatever emotion. 351 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,280 They had and whatever focus they had in that Wisconsin game try 352 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,640 to apply it to this one and. You know, play better defense. 353 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,560 You know that. Still keeps coming back to me as 354 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,560 the primary thing, the effort on. 355 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Defense against. Wisconsin was better than it had 356 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,840 been for the previous four games. 357 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 They've got to figure out a way to make it even better than that 358 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,760 if they're going to have a chance against Maryland on 359 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Sunday, so hopefully they'll be able to do that. 360 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,680 I wanted to bring up something else, so I'm going to transition 361 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,400 to. A kind of a broader scale. 362 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:39,320 Topic It's March 1st of 2024. This is, you know, it feels like 363 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,000 deja vu for IU fans because after a couple of years of at 364 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,760 least being in. The tournament picture IU now 365 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,640 finds itself. Back out of the. 366 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Tournament picture decisively this time, you know. 367 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,880 In the Archie Miller era, yeah, obviously the COVID year. 368 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Indiana was kind of in the mix and was probably going to make 369 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,160 the NCAA tournament. And then the tournament got. 370 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,839 Cancelled the previous year. That that 2019 year Indiana was 371 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:06,000 in the mix. They were. 372 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,560 They were borderline, but they were clearly close. 373 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,800 They were one of the first four teams out of the tournament 374 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,680 because. They were a one seed in the NIT 375 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,119 and. And then in the. 376 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,400 Previous. Year they They really weren't in 377 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,119 the mix. But they were. 378 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Kind of. They were on. 379 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,240 At least the the peripheral bubble to you know to kind of 380 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,599 early as you. You know you got into the 381 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:26,560 middle. Part of February. 382 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,200 That team was nine and seven in the conference, 16 and 12. 383 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,040 They were on a four-game winning streak and you thought, well, 384 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,080 gosh, if they win their last two games against. 385 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,400 Nebraska and Ohio State. You know, they'd be 18 and 12:00 386 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 and 11:00 and 7:00. They might make it and that 387 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,840 didn't happen. And my. 388 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,400 Point in all that? Is this is another March where 389 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:50,920 IU as a program and IU fans are on the sideline and it's. 390 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,840 It stinks. It's, it's. 391 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,640 Really hard. And it's sad, you know, I think 392 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,640 if you're an IU fan or if you're someone that that cares about 393 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,080 the program. To watch this. 394 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Being the you know. Again, kind of where? 395 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Indiana's AT and. Obviously there's a twist. 396 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,920 This time around, which? Is that there's a. 397 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Tremendous amount of. For those of you who are not. 398 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Terminally online, like some of us, there's a. 399 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,440 Lot of conversation going on right now, obviously about the 400 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,520 program about you know what's what's the disposition of Mike 401 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,960 Woodson, you know there's been a lot. 402 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Of those. Types of conversations being had 403 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,560 and. You know, I advise everybody to 404 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,480 go. Listen to the state of the. 405 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,200 Program. Podcast that assembly. 406 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,440 Call Did. The last two podcasts that we 407 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,320 did. The one that Scott and I did and 408 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,760 then the one that we had Tony Adrania on, we hit a lot of 409 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,320 those topics. We we're not going to go over 410 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,160 that again. I just. 411 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:52,000 I guess to me, I think it's it's it's important to communicate. 412 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,280 How sad. All of this feels because it 413 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,400 just, you know, IU. Fans and. 414 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,760 IU as a program overall it just every. 415 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,320 Time there feels like there's some kind of momentum. 416 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,640 It's like something drops out of the sky to just. 417 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Stop it in its. Tracks that has gotten so old 418 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,680 for so many people and. When I talk with. 419 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,280 Fans obviously living in Bloomington, I talk. 420 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,040 With a ton of people about IU basketball. 421 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,400 Specifically, and it's at a point now. 422 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,640 Where it just feels like people. Are throwing their hands up and 423 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,000 they're like I. I don't know why. 424 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,600 I'm bothering to care and it's not to. 425 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,200 The point where people. Don't care because if they. 426 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Didn't care, they just. Wouldn't bring it up. 427 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,880 People bringing up IU basketball. 428 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,480 And talking about the issues, it's like. 429 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,160 They clearly still care if you go out of your way to say. 430 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,360 How much you don't care about something, you still care about 431 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,320 something. And and I don't think people are 432 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,880 even there quite to that point. Yet. 433 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,800 But I think there's just a level of exasperation that after a 434 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,640 couple of years of what looked like positive. 435 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Progress. It's been this tremendous 436 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,720 regression and this, you know, increasingly kind of feels like 437 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,920 the norm. Not the exception. 438 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,080 When it comes to IU, because it's been that way since 439 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:08,920 essential. Really. 440 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,080 For the last. Decade, I mean. 441 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,040 You know, you think about the way if you're. 442 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,120 Old enough to remember. How you felt coming off that 443 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:18,920 2013 season and then that 2014 fourteen season dropping out of 444 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,560 the sky in Indiana, missing the tournament. 445 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,240 You know, that felt like a. Speed. 446 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,040 Bump, but you know. Momentarily, you thought. 447 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,160 OK. Maybe things will be fine. 448 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,440 And then the next year wasn't very good and then the year 449 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,400 after that obviously was was. Surprising and very good. 450 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,960 But then the next. Year after that. 451 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,200 The wheels fall off, then you're into a. 452 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,520 Coaching change? Then it's you like you're 453 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,840 waiting for things to. Get going. 454 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,440 And then they never get going under Miller. 455 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,280 So I look at this and it's like another instance of people 456 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,240 trying to get excited about the program. 457 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,280 People getting fully invested. You know, people. 458 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,360 Traveling to go watch the team and not only. 459 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Are they not? Seeing IU. 460 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Perform the way that. You you know that any fan would 461 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:04,680 hope that their team would perform, but now you've watched 462 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,920 another kind of deevolution of the. 463 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Program over the course of. You know, mid January. 464 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,120 To the end of. February, and now you're out of 465 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,840 the tournament. Picture again and. 466 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,160 It's not a good. Spot. 467 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,720 You know, I mean, you've got, obviously there's been a lot of 468 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,400 chatter about recruiting situations. 469 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,920 There's been a lot of chat. I mean there. 470 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,040 We've talked on this podcast about the lack. 471 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Of clear targets or clear recruiting? 472 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,480 You know developments for Indiana. 473 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,920 They're going into an offseason with with a single. 474 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Player currently committed. They're going to have to hit the 475 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,560 portal. Very heavy. 476 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,960 And there's some contradictions in going that direction. 477 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,400 When you think about the things that have been said during the 478 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,240 course of this season about why this season isn't going well. 479 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,720 It's just a very. Daunting thing if you're really 480 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,280 paying attention as an IU fan and it's not putting anybody in 481 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,320 a. Good mindset it's not. 482 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Really putting anybody in a good light, you know and and. 483 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,920 It's now we're back. To once again people getting mad 484 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,400 at each other. For one thing, or. 485 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Another. Whether that is? 486 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Fans blaming other fans. For not being. 487 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,280 Supportive enough or for on the flip side? 488 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,320 Not caring enough. About the trajectory of the 489 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240 program. To to be concerned about things 490 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,600 you've got. You know all these reports that 491 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,040 are coming in, and a lot of them are anonymously sourced, so it's 492 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,440 hard to say how true or how false they are about infighting. 493 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Within the IU basketball family, not the, not the people like 494 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,320 obviously on the coaching staff, but like in the broader alumni 495 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,160 base, I mean it's. Just. 496 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Over and over again it. Just kind of feels like IU 497 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,480 basketball is Is this ever revolving soap opera? 498 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,680 I'm not. I don't think I'm breaking news 499 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,600 to. Anybody in this? 500 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,040 In this audience about it and I don't think anybody knows what's 501 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,120 going to actually happen. I and I think. 502 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,360 It's still a very. Good chance that nothing you 503 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,280 know. Unusual or untoward happens. 504 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,800 That. That, Yeah, you just go into the 505 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,000 offseason. With the status quo and try to 506 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,480 rebuild as. Best you can based upon what's 507 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,480 out. There in the portal. 508 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,920 That's a bit. Daunting given how? 509 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,280 Difficult It's been for. Teams with a lot of. 510 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,000 Portal players to to put that group together and have them. 511 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,240 Play coherently. I think for a lot of IU. 512 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,360 Fans, It's like, what? Can we just get the season over 513 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:33,600 at this point? Can we just stop? 514 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Talking about it and thinking about it and can. 515 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,120 We instead just kind of move on to to football for it, which is 516 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,360 of all things. It's wild. 517 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,880 I love it. Obviously, I mean we've. 518 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,440 We've supported football here on Crimson. 519 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,800 Cast for a long. Time and talked. 520 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,080 About it, but the the number of people for whom the basketball 521 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,840 season has almost. Become a burden. 522 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,200 Down the stretch as opposed to. From an emotional perspective. 523 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,920 As opposed to being. Something that you're interested 524 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,600 in and celebrating is. It's it's the worst. 525 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,440 Kind. Of repeat. 526 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,920 Performance and it's. The worst kind of deja vu for 527 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,080 IU. Fans and you know I I keep 528 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,760 coming back to. This this core idea, which is. 529 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,240 At some point, it would be nice to just have a program that is 530 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,480 consistently good enough that people can feel good about it. 531 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,520 And it just feels like it's been forever for IU. 532 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,960 To get to that. Point There's no larger point to 533 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,840 this particular part of the podcast. 534 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,720 Other than a lament. That this. 535 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Is where Indiana finds. Itself yet again and I think. 536 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,480 Maybe on top of that? The biggest lament in all of it. 537 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,040 From my perspective, is the lack of clarity about what? 538 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Might make it better. If you're the type of. 539 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,280 Person who thinks that. Indiana needs to make a change. 540 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,320 There's no guarantee as we've. Seen now multiple times that a 541 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,440 change is going to make everything better. 542 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,760 And there's a chance. That a change could make things 543 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,880 worse. On the flip side, if you're the 544 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,680 type of. Person. 545 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,040 Who thinks that no change should be? 546 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,000 Made and and that any talk like. That is very premature. 547 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,400 As we talked about on the previous podcast, it's hard to 548 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,520 figure out OK, what take take where things are. 549 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,720 Currently at not right. Now like logistically what is 550 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,480 the route forward that? Allows things to get better and 551 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,040 I think that's that's a different kind of spot from 552 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760 where IU fans have been in the. Past. 553 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,080 You know, it felt like. By the end of Queen's time. 554 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,880 Most people felt very definitively like, yeah. 555 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,480 It's, it's. Time to move on. 556 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,320 Like the the the fire's gone out. 557 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,960 So to speak, the honeymoon. Period's over to. 558 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,160 Borrow a phrase from Ex's and Joes. 559 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,600 You know, with Archie, it absolutely felt that way. 560 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,240 And I don't know that everybody. I don't know. 561 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,200 I'm not sure, people. Felt that way, like New Year's. 562 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Day of 2021 with Archie but. The way that that. 563 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,680 Season. Devolved down the stretch. 564 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,160 You know it It. Became clear very quickly. 565 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760 That this was not going to work and you know that team finished 566 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,880 12 and 15 like. Even though I think. 567 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040 That firing. Was still a surprise to some 568 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,400 people. It. 569 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,360 Because IA lot of. People, myself included, thought 570 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:13,800 there would be another another year given people. 571 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Were ready to move on. This has been so sudden and on 572 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680 it and the the. The bottom. 573 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Dropping out of IU. Basketball. 574 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Just kind of. Felt like it it. 575 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,240 Came out of nowhere. There were some warning signs 576 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,800 earlier this season, but nothing that would have. 577 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Indicated that it would. Have gotten this. 578 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,000 Far off track. So it is. 579 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,480 It is kind of uncharted waters for Indiana because in. 580 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,880 In the last few instances it was like, well, there's a clear 581 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,640 break point. And here. 582 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,160 I don't think there's a clear break point in the. 583 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,040 Minds of a. Lot of people or even if there 584 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720 is. There's not any clear consensus 585 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,280 about how that goes down or what that might. 586 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Look like or. Or whether that would even be 587 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,640 the best thing to begin with. There's just a lot of of stuff. 588 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,680 And I. Look, I'm not. 589 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,920 There's. There's things that are that are 590 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,240 being covered. By a variety of. 591 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Different paid media. I'm not going to talk. 592 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,160 About those things. Specifically, I think that. 593 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,920 You should go. Find those things. 594 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,160 Yourself, if you're interested and and you know, really. 595 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Kind of soak all of it in. And try to make a judgement if 596 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,920 you're if you're interested in it and that. 597 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720 But if you're not, I can certainly understand that as 598 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,160 well, because at. The end of the day, what you're 599 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,920 dealing with is a. Situation where there's a. 600 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,000 Lot out there. And there's a lot. 601 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,680 Of of differing opinions. There's a lot of. 602 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Things being that that are being. 603 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Played out in in a kind of a quasi. 604 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,480 Public, or at least you know public with. 605 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,440 Anonymity approach to things. That don't look good for the 606 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,200 basketball. Program don't look good. 607 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,680 For the university. But are to me a clear. 608 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,640 Indicator that there is. A real. 609 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,200 Behind the scenes. Battle going on about what 610 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,200 direction everything's going and. 611 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,600 It's going to be interesting. To see how it plays out. 612 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,560 My at this point my lone. Hope is that like just. 613 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560 Just get the program back on track somehow. 614 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Because after two years that we're pretty good. 615 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,440 You're back. To a season that. 616 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,240 Just does not live up. To anywhere close to. 617 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,920 Even like the average standard that most IU fans and certainly 618 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,360 I think IU administration would want the program to be in. 619 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,400 And yet the fans are still there. 620 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,000 You know, there's the joke about like the. 621 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,480 You know, the, the, the. Truly Donovan social media 622 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,280 account that has. Become very popular. 623 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,120 That has a lot of insider basketball news. 624 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,200 Has a. A paid Discord channel. 625 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,200 And there was. There was a post. 626 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,160 Today on on X. About. 627 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,480 The the amount of IU fans that have invaded that. 628 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,960 Space that are just all over the place. 629 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Like the number of IU fans that are out there that are. 630 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,160 Clearly, like, very heavily. Engaged and you know are are 631 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720 very passionate one way or another about where things are 632 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,320 AT is, is is pretty impressive for a program that frankly just 633 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,040 hasn't had much success at all over the last 20 years. 634 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,000 You know when you take things in totality, it's just it's the, 635 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,560 the. The people are still there, I. 636 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Guess would be the message that I would take. 637 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Out of that, the people are still there. 638 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,680 The fans are are waiting. And this? 639 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Season has played out. About as poorly as you you would 640 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560 hope it would for those people because. 641 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,960 There have not been a lot. Of actual highlights. 642 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,520 There's not been a lot of like terribly impressive games that, 643 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,600 you know, you get the ray of Sunshine game like you get 644 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,120 against Wisconsin, but that. Follows 4 games that I think 645 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,360 really had a lot of people completely turned. 646 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360 Off about the the trajectory of the program and way things were 647 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920 going, so. We will see what happens. 648 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,800 You know I I. I think to some. 649 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,320 Degree. A lot of people have gotten dug 650 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,440 in at this. Point about what? 651 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,880 Their. Attitudes are towards the 652 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,440 program and towards, you know, towards the the coaching. 653 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Of the. Program and and the the program 654 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,160 and roster management and and this is going to be a really 655 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,280 interesting thing. How does this season? 656 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,320 End. Do. 657 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,240 Do hearts and minds get changed one way or the other on either 658 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,080 side of that spectrum, and how does it end up playing out? 659 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,840 That is going to be a really interesting thing to watch. 660 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,400 But I also don't, I don't anticipate. 661 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,520 That many of you are going. To necessarily want to stick. 662 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,920 Around for all the. Gory details. 663 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,440 So anyway, we will see what happens as we move forward with 664 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,680 all of this. I hope you all. 665 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400 Have a wonderful weekend? Be sure to listen to the 666 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,200 Crimson. Cast women's. 667 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,720 Basketball show. Amanda. 668 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,400 Foster and Kevin Vera with some good. 669 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240 Insights on what we saw earlier this week against Northwestern. 670 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280 And what to expect on Senior Day? 671 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,320 As we will see. Mackenzie. 672 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,760 Holmes for the last. Time in Assembly Hall and maybe 673 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,920 among. Others we'll we'll. 674 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,560 We'll see. So anyway, check that podcast 675 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,960 out. It's on the Crimson cast feed. 676 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,560 I appreciate you all for indulging me a little bit here 677 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 on a Friday night. And I look forward to speaking 678 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,720 with you all again soon. We will have coverage after the 679 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,360 Maryland game and I would also advise everybody to tune into 680 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360 Assembly Call as they break. Things down immediately. 681 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,960 After the fact for the folks here at the. 682 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,400 Back home network. I'm Galen Clavio. 683 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Thanks for joining us. Bring back the Bison. 684 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:56,880 That's all everybody.