1
00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,000
You're listening to the back 
home network presented by home 

2
00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:22,800
field apparel. 
Welcome as Crimson Cask ale and 

3
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,100
Claudio Scott Caulfield back 
with you. 

4
00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:27,500
Once again, here it is. 
March. 

5
00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,800
Happy March Scott the This used 
to be the Most Wonderful Time of

6
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,600
the Year, man, what happened to 
us? 

7
00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:36,300
But no, the weather is nice 
outside. 

8
00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,400
You've got tournament play going
on. 

9
00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600
The women are in the Big Ten 
Tournament right now. 

10
00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000
They actually knocked off 
Rutgers yesterday and they've 

11
00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,800
got a date with Maryland. 
Again. 

12
00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,600
It's very important today. 
So there's good basketball being

13
00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,700
played. 
Just not by the men's team right

14
00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:55,500
now. 
And so we're going to talk about

15
00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:59,100
that will talk about the big 
loss to Rutgers this past 

16
00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:02,500
Wednesday. 
And we will also discuss the 

17
00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:05,600
overall situation with the men's
basketball team and kind of 

18
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,900
figure out where things go from 
here before we get started, like

19
00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:12,800
to mention that home field 
apparel is a presenting. 

20
00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,500
Sponsor of crimson cast, as well
as the whole back home network. 

21
00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000
You can then adjust have had a 
friends-and-family sale here 

22
00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,200
recently. 
They've always got these little 

23
00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,800
sales that are popping up and 
they continue to add great 

24
00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:27,600
merchandise to the overall 
collection. 

25
00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:29,700
They've been doing some really 
nice basketball. 

26
00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:31,900
Hands here lately. 
They had to pull a few weeks 

27
00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:35,100
ago. 
They had Kansas this week. 

28
00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:36,800
And that's going to be a lot of 
fun. 

29
00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600
Kansas Scott. 
I feel like is one of those 

30
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,300
basketball brands that you can 
be an IU fan and root for Kansas

31
00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:45,900
and not feel like you're doing 
anything wrong. 

32
00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,500
Like, if you're rooting for 
Kentucky. 

33
00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:49,400
It's like, what on Earth is 
wrong with you? 

34
00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,200
If you're rooting for North 
Carolina or Duke. 

35
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,600
It's like, wow, you're a 
sellout, we do. 

36
00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,800
But Kansas is like every year 
they have a legitimate chance at

37
00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800
winning a national title and you
don't feel that. 

38
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,500
Thought that far off from the 
Indiana brand overall. 

39
00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:04,600
They're like, you know, the 
Adidas partner that doesn't 

40
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,600
mind, you know, the cheating and
so forth. 

41
00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,500
So I guess we can just kind of 
salute them and buy shirts from 

42
00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:15,100
home field, apparel featuring 
The Kansas Jayhawks, but many 

43
00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:20,300
other options out there and you 
can use the code home, Home2, 

44
00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:22,800
get a discount on your first 
purchase. 

45
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,900
So again, check out home field 
apparel.com and you'll find many

46
00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:28,800
things there that you will 
enjoy. 

47
00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,400
So go and check them out. 
If you haven't already Scott, 

48
00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,100
hi, how you doing? 
Yeah, then we play Kansas next 

49
00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:36,400
year. 
So it's kind of messed up to is 

50
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400
like, now, we can't really be a 
Kansas fan next year. 

51
00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,500
It's too bad. 
Yes. 

52
00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,400
I know the, you know, actually 
playing teams makes it harder. 

53
00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:45,800
Yes. 
Yeah, playing good teams. 

54
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,200
Is it as a novelty? 
I'm good, man. 

55
00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,200
It's that this is very, very 
select. 

56
00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,600
Few. 
Like one of my very good 

57
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,000
friends, Teddy out in l.a. 
Who listens to the pot of a 

58
00:02:54,008 --> 00:02:57,800
group with a friend named Rose. 
We went to Kings Island his kids

59
00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,800
or high school kids. 
I remember we did, they grow. 

60
00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,900
Beast and she had never been on 
a roller coaster. 

61
00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:05,100
We hit the first downhill, we go
down and then we like hit the 

62
00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:08,300
clink and starts going up again.
And she's like, we gotta do it 

63
00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:11,500
again. 
Like, it's been here for years, 

64
00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:15,000
but it's like, that's how I feel
with this pod is like, we gotta 

65
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,500
do it again, have to do this 
again. 

66
00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,100
I will prefer those listening in
the car with young kids. 

67
00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,800
I'm getting very close to like 
getting rid of the Scott doesn't

68
00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,300
curse moratorium. 
So just be be prepared. 

69
00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:29,300
Have the mute button, ready to 
rock and roll. 

70
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,700
I feel like cursing is somewhat 
needed after a game like this. 

71
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,200
I love how I love Allah. 
Oh, this is somehow a burden on 

72
00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,100
you. 
And yet, I'm the one. 

73
00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,000
I'm the one that has to go in 
and put all the Beeps in. 

74
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,200
I'm the one that has to produce 
the podcast. 

75
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,700
So your big burden is, oh my 
brain feels better because I 

76
00:03:48,700 --> 00:03:51,000
used a bad word. 
Whereas it's like, oh great. 

77
00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,200
Let's create 30 more minutes of 
work for Galen while he produces

78
00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,000
this thing. 
So I please unburden yourself, 

79
00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,500
sir. 
As it should be. 

80
00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,000
Thank you. 
I appreciate it. 

81
00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000
Here's my question for you. 
We'll talk about the game. 

82
00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:06,800
I just I got to know because for
me, it was laughing. 

83
00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:08,900
My answer was I just had to 
laugh. 

84
00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000
You were, you were sitting at 
happened. 

85
00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,500
Kind of right in front of you? 
What were your thoughts, and 

86
00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:16,500
feelings as Ron Harper jr. 
Dropped his nuts on the 

87
00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,600
assembly. 
Hall floor. 

88
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,600
I mean, did you buy? 
Did you see the Run Harper jr. 

89
00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:24,300
Like licensed sweatshirt with 
him doing that? 

90
00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:26,600
They're just serious and go 
right. 

91
00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,000
Go right now, too. 
Twitter go to run our for 

92
00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,700
juniors, Twitter and you you're 
gonna if you go to run, Harbor 

93
00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:39,100
Juniors, Twitter, he's actually 
already like this was yesterday.

94
00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,000
He's got a who's your daddy 
hoodie? 

95
00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,900
And a t-shirt collection. 
That's available that he's 

96
00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:54,400
selling, which commemorates him 
carrying his package along the 

97
00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,200
assembly hall floor after 
hitting that three and I I 

98
00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,400
haven't ordered one yet. 
I'm considering it. 

99
00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,400
It seems like a great holiday 
gift that you might be able to 

100
00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,900
give to somebody. 
Yeah, it's it was I say this, 

101
00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:11,400
I'm looking at it now guys why 
it's wild, isn't it? 

102
00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:14,400
That is not a sponsor for the 
podcast. 

103
00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,100
Got to say, we're not, we're not
fans of this. 

104
00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:20,400
I will say, it's interesting, 
like I this is the kind of n IL 

105
00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,100
I respect because not only does 
he have a, who's your daddy 

106
00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,800
package delivery, but I guess 
we'll call it that. 

107
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,300
That t-shirt, but on the same 
merch page, he's got a down, 

108
00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:38,200
goes number 1 shirt of him 
beating, Purdue with that last 

109
00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,700
second shot. 
This is, well done this whole 

110
00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:43,200
thing. 
I'm actually I'm pretty 

111
00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,200
impressed with how this has been
set up. 

112
00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,700
So, anyway, my thoughts it's 
funny. 

113
00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,200
I earlier on, I think probably 
at that seven minute, Mark when 

114
00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,200
Indiana was going through there 
now, traditional offensive death

115
00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,800
spiral in the second half. 
I said to myself. 

116
00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,500
I'm really concerned about the 
prospects of being up by two at 

117
00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:07,200
the end of the game with Ron 
Harper, jr. 

118
00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,500
And Geo Baker on the other team.
And so when Stewart hits the 

119
00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:15,700
three, finally and Indiana ties 
it up and Rutgers inbounds it 

120
00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:17,300
and it goes to write to Ron 
Harper, jr. 

121
00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:20,000
And they've got one guy 
defending Ron Harper jr. 

122
00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:22,000
I'm like, he's gonna hit the 
shot because that wasn't even a 

123
00:06:22,008 --> 00:06:24,800
question. 
It was just like, how much time 

124
00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,100
will be left after he hits this 
shot, and Sure enough. 

125
00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:32,500
It it went that way. 
It was very predictable. 

126
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:39,000
And it was I have to say, you 
never like to see players like 

127
00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,800
celebrating in in that manner, 
in your home gym, but he 

128
00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,100
deserved it. 
He that he hit the shot and 

129
00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:47,500
there's not a whole lot. 
You can do about it at this 

130
00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:48,900
point. 
Yeah. 

131
00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:51,300
I mean, you know, he hit the 
shot. 

132
00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,400
He won the game. 
He took down, I you he took down

133
00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,800
Purdue. 
He owns the state of Indiana, 

134
00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,100
but I will say watching him the 
second half. 

135
00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,800
Laughs. 
I would whisper I brought my 

136
00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,200
buddy and neighbor Robert down 
to the game. 

137
00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,000
We're so they're talking. 
It's like I've not seen a high 

138
00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,300
level player kind of meander 
that much during a game. 

139
00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:11,200
Like, Ron Harper jr. 
Looked at times disinterested 

140
00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,200
looked like he wasn't running 
because he wasn't, and I was 

141
00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,400
saying, like, I don't know why, 
like, they were running his own.

142
00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,200
I was kind of joking. 
I wonder if they're running his 

143
00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,400
own just because Ron Harper 
Geno's want to run and play 

144
00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,700
man-to-man defense, but it's 
like go at him like move the 

145
00:07:24,707 --> 00:07:28,100
ball to that side of the zone 
and just pound the ball against.

146
00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:30,600
Like double team him make him 
move on offense. 

147
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,400
Like he was, he was his offense,
is kind of like, I'm just going 

148
00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,500
to stand here and wait for an 
open three. 

149
00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:39,400
And I'm going to crush every 
open three. 

150
00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,800
But it was a bizarre game to 
watch, but it's something it's 

151
00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,100
on, I you to take advantage of 
that and they did none of that. 

152
00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:52,700
It is also, you know, we've had 
discussions back and forth like 

153
00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:56,300
it is just, I'm kind of 
scattershot stuff. 

154
00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:59,800
It's like there is so much out. 
Alpha and Xavier Johnson, which 

155
00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,500
is great, but it like it just 
shines out to a point where it's

156
00:08:02,508 --> 00:08:04,700
like, this guy is such an 
outlier on this team. 

157
00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:08,300
In a positive way that he just 
does so much. 

158
00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:11,000
You know, my moment where I'm 
like, the season's over was 

159
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,900
where I was. 
I just saw Xavier push Milady. 

160
00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:15,500
Okay. 
The into the, into the bench. 

161
00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:16,600
I didn't see the punch 
afterwards. 

162
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,500
I was just like, that's the end 
of the season, but I'm thinking 

163
00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:24,400
like that only happens because 
I, again, I'm not on the team. 

164
00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,600
Obviously, you're big big 
surprise here, but it's like 

165
00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,600
you're just watching. 
It's like Xavier. 

166
00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,800
You wonder if he's feels like, 
I'm the only guy doing anything 

167
00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,900
like, I've got to make 
something. 

168
00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:36,000
He's the only one who felt like,
who you can see acting like, 

169
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000
this is the end of our season 
that we've got to do something 

170
00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,000
and it's like, all right. 
I'm just gonna put like, I'm 

171
00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,799
just going for the ball doing 
whatever. 

172
00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:46,800
I mean to me. 
Xavier cemented a spot in my 

173
00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:48,900
kind of IU fan. 
I was like that guy's just 

174
00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:52,200
busting his ass hard at the 
entire game, but it is. 

175
00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,300
It's wild seeing it against some
of the other players where I 

176
00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,300
know they're trying another 
busting hard, but it just 

177
00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:59,200
doesn't it. 
Is show the same way. 

178
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,600
But on defense mean, Xavier is 
just all over the place. 

179
00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,400
It is anyway, that that play to 
was also a kind of a wild end of

180
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,100
the game. 
Yeah. 

181
00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:10,400
It was one of those things where
that whole last minute was just 

182
00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:16,400
crazy and it was one of those 
games where I you had the 

183
00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,600
opportunity to kind of salted 
away at the end of the first 

184
00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,400
half beginning of the second 
half and of course, they didn't.

185
00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:26,300
And you just felt like the 
trajectory of the game was going

186
00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:28,600
to be kind of like the Purdue 
game where it's like, Anna's got

187
00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,200
this lead. 
They let it get away. 

188
00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,400
And then they're either going to
have to make a play or a couple 

189
00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,500
of plays down the stretch or 
they're going to end up losing. 

190
00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:40,700
Well, you know the Purdue game. 
We kind of got the first half of

191
00:09:40,700 --> 00:09:43,800
that equation and unfortunately 
in this Rutgers game we get the 

192
00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,200
second half of the equation but 
it was it was a very odd game in

193
00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,100
a lot of ways in that it was a 
game where Rutgers look like. 

194
00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:54,700
They were going to really have 
trouble maintaining any 

195
00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:57,900
semblance of a normal offensive 
structure and then all of a 

196
00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:00,600
sudden and they started hitting 
shots because Indiana was doing 

197
00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,300
a poor job of guarding them. 
There were a lot of confusing 

198
00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:06,000
decisions made as far as leaving
Ron Harper jr. 

199
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,100
On switches and what you ended 
up with was a game where you got

200
00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:15,500
dominated essentially by, I 
would say, two guys Harper jr. 

201
00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:22,200
With 19 points, and he shot 548 
from three, but also all marui 

202
00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:27,000
with 12, rebounds and 13 points.
And and there I you just didn't 

203
00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,300
have an answer. 
In the paint that was trying as 

204
00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:33,000
hard. 
And I think what your point is 

205
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,800
well-taken, like you looked at 
Xavier Johnson and Johnson did 

206
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,900
not have a great offensive game,
you know, he but he was at least

207
00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:43,500
trying to do some things and 
this was the fourth straight 

208
00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:44,700
game. 
Where he scored in double 

209
00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:47,400
figures. 
It was, you know, it was not a 

210
00:10:47,408 --> 00:10:49,200
great game from a turnover 
perspective. 

211
00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,900
But a lot of that was his 
teammates not doing a lot to 

212
00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:56,900
help him out in a lot of 
stretches. 

213
00:10:56,900 --> 00:11:03,600
And It just to me, I guess, 
across the board outside of 

214
00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,000
Xavier Johnson. 
You looked at the contributions 

215
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,100
that I you made for the totality
of the game. 

216
00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,400
And it's really hard to point to
anybody and say, wow, that 

217
00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,000
players effort and energy level 
really stood out, you know, 

218
00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:18,700
offensively Parker Stewart and 
Miller cop essentially no. 

219
00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:20,700
Showed again. 
I do think Parker Stewart 

220
00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:23,200
deserves some credit. 
He had a couple of decent 

221
00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,400
defensive possessions, and 
obviously, even though he missed

222
00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,900
a few leading up to You did hit 
the shot that tied the game that

223
00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:32,600
kind of got lost in the shuffle 
there, but he does deserve 

224
00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,600
credit for continuing to put 
shots up, Miller. 

225
00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,400
Cop just was essentially a 
no-show offensively for most of 

226
00:11:39,408 --> 00:11:43,200
the game and then, you know, it 
was confusing because race 

227
00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,700
Thompson was kind of his steady 
overall, self wasn't exemplary, 

228
00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:50,900
but certainly, you know, yes, he
made some mistakes on defense, 

229
00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:52,900
but he had the toughest 
defensive assignment. 

230
00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,500
And then Trace Jackson, Davis 
had an awesome first half and 

231
00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,700
you're like, hey, this is great.
You're seeing traced. 

232
00:11:57,900 --> 00:12:00,700
Jackson Davis, like come out of 
this funk that he's been in and 

233
00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:04,500
then he just essentially didn't 
show up in second half again. 

234
00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:07,500
I mean, it would like was was 
getting double-teamed, you know,

235
00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:11,500
certainly Rutgers was making it 
difficult, but a, there was no 

236
00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:15,100
adaptation by race or by Trace 
Jackson, Davis to try to get out

237
00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:16,800
of where he was at, and do 
something different. 

238
00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:19,100
And there was no adaptation by 
Mike Woodson to try to do 

239
00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:22,100
something different, because 
they obviously made a concerted 

240
00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:24,300
effort to take J Stax and Davis 
away. 

241
00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,700
And so it's, I would love to 
know how many touches he had in 

242
00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:31,400
the Can have yeah, like, I don't
know, but we're talking about 

243
00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,400
that. 
The game is like, I don't know. 

244
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,900
He scored like, what? 
Two points. 

245
00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,200
I think it was for, but but, you
know, the two of those were free

246
00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,900
throws. 
Yeah, it's it was, it was one of

247
00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:42,500
those games and we've seen a lot
of these very left and 10 

248
00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,300
touches, probably. 
I mean, I, it may be more or 

249
00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,700
less than that, but it was 
another one of the games that 

250
00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:51,600
we've seen out of Trace Jackson 
Davis down, the stretch. 

251
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,900
We're opposing defenses, are 
just like, look, you're not 

252
00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:57,700
going to beat us with the 
relatively Limited. 

253
00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,400
Limited arsenal of moves that 
you've got, you know, you if we 

254
00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,900
are not able to take it away in 
the first half and that's our 

255
00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:08,500
primary thing to worry about 
will just focus on taking it 

256
00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:12,900
away in the second half and dare
somebody else to beat us and I 

257
00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:15,900
you just hasn't been able to 
because even, you know, Xavier 

258
00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:19,500
Johnson, like ultimately, he 
either is able to spot up and 

259
00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:23,500
shoot from three or he finds 
lanes and drives to the basket. 

260
00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:29,600
Well, teams, I think have found 
that In many cases, they're able

261
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,000
when they're doubling the post 
on Trace Jackson. 

262
00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,600
Davis to just as easily. 
Take away. 

263
00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,400
The driving lanes that Xavier 
Johnson has been utilizing and 

264
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,900
then it's like now, what. 
So it was it was a real good 

265
00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:43,300
summation of most of the 
offensive issues that this 

266
00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:46,700
Indiana team has had over the 
course of the Season or at least

267
00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:48,800
over the course of the second 
half of the season. 

268
00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:52,800
And unfortunately for Indiana, 
it happened in a game that they 

269
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,000
just could not afford to have 
this type of a performance in. 

270
00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,800
Hey, look, I mean, one of the 
things in this game that I think

271
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,000
is interesting. 
Indiana's played pretty well. 

272
00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000
Overall this season against slow
tempo teams. 

273
00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:09,700
And then these games were, there
hasn't been a huge amount of 

274
00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:11,200
possessions. 
Indiana's. 

275
00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,600
Defense is generally been able 
to make the deal the difference.

276
00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,300
In this one. 
They allowed over a point per 

277
00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:19,700
possession to Rutgers and there 
just weren't that many 

278
00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:21,800
possessions in this game 
overall. 

279
00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:26,100
And that's that's I think that 
was probably the biggest problem

280
00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:29,600
like this game plan. 
Probably should have resulted in

281
00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,500
a narrow victory for Indiana. 
All Things Considered. 

282
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,600
But in this case, you had Ron 
Harper jr. 

283
00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,400
On the other team who not only 
wasn't afraid to take those 

284
00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,100
shots at the end. 
But knew that he could make 

285
00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:41,300
them. 
And I think everybody had an 

286
00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:44,400
idea that he could make them. 
And so the whole plan of just 

287
00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,700
like well, it's grind, this out 
ends up, not working because you

288
00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:50,600
come up against an opponent 
who's shown several times this 

289
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,200
season now that they're able to 
win those types of games? 

290
00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,500
Where his Indiana isn't always 
able to Yeah, I mean and 

291
00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:02,500
sometimes you know, the simplest
answer just is the answer where 

292
00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:07,700
I mean you go six from 21 43. 
It's just like, that's just not 

293
00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:08,900
good enough. 
You just can't do it. 

294
00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:10,500
And a lot of those were wide 
open looks. 

295
00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:13,000
I mean, I was thinking this in 
the Minnesota game that, you 

296
00:15:13,008 --> 00:15:16,100
know, we had Minnesota dead to 
rights and they came back and I 

297
00:15:16,108 --> 00:15:18,800
was thinking that whatever were 
down 10 on the road. 

298
00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,100
It feels weird on 10. 
It's like, it feels like it's 

299
00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:23,500
just over. 
Why can't we come back and say? 

300
00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,600
Oh, yeah, because Minnesota to 
started hitting Three and we 

301
00:15:25,608 --> 00:15:28,600
just we don't do that. 
Like the games that we do that 

302
00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,300
were rough. 
Rob, fantasy went nuts hitting 

303
00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:33,800
threes. 
We we almost we beat Purdue like

304
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,700
the game were Parker Stewart 
went like, you know, 648 from 

305
00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:39,200
three. 
We, you know, damn near beat 

306
00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,100
Syracuse in a, you know, a 
hundred and ten point double 

307
00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:46,400
overtime game, you know, why did
Rutgers come kind of storming 

308
00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,400
back in the second half because 
they were hitting threes. 

309
00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:53,200
It really is tough at its. 
I mean, I hate the, you know, 

310
00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,800
you gotta hit open threes, but 
you just got to Well, like it 

311
00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,800
was the first Parker Stewart 
Miss. 

312
00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,700
I like, you know, we're talking 
about it. 

313
00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:02,500
Like Woodson was going to take 
some crap. 

314
00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,900
It's like, he ran a great play. 
Like, Parker Stewart, had a wide

315
00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:08,300
open three, top of the key, and 
he Mission at some point, a lot 

316
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:11,400
of those threes were wide open. 
They were good place to get 

317
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,600
threes. 
And we just, we've got to be 

318
00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,100
able to shoot better. 
We've got to be able to make 

319
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:19,300
threes. 
And it, this is why this team is

320
00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:21,300
flawed and is always going to 
have this problem. 

321
00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:25,600
This year is I mean teams that 
just start hitting threes. 

322
00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:28,000
We can't compete. 
We just can't and like teams can

323
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,700
come back. 
Teams, construct leads. 

324
00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,300
We don't have that ability to 
come back and or stretch leads 

325
00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:35,500
because outside of two or three 
games this year. 

326
00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:37,800
We're just not a consistent. 
Three-point shooting team. 

327
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,500
Yeah. 
No, it's I think the biggest 

328
00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:44,600
problem you got two people in 
the starting lineup, who just, 

329
00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,300
they're there to hit shots. 
You mean Stewart and copper 

330
00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:49,800
there to hit shots and they're 
just not hitting shots. 

331
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,800
And then it's not I'm not even 
looking at it as a criticism. 

332
00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:56,200
It's just a reality. 
Like this group of players has 

333
00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,500
not shown an ability to hit the 
shots that they're supposed to 

334
00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,700
hit. 
And unfortunately for Indiana, 

335
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,300
there's really nobody else on 
the bench who can come in and do

336
00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:11,400
those things without taking a 
big chunk of Defense off the 

337
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,900
table. 
And so you end up with People 

338
00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:17,599
say well, why are like, this was
a game where? 

339
00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:20,200
Yes, you probably should have 
had Geronimo in the game. 

340
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,099
You probably should have had 
Tomorrow Bates in the game, but 

341
00:17:24,099 --> 00:17:29,400
they've been worse offensively 
than cop and Stewart have been 

342
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,100
and so it's not even a matter of
well Woodson should have sat 

343
00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:36,600
those two guys down because yes 
in a vacuum, he should have but 

344
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,200
you're not bringing in anybody 
that's going that shown the 

345
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,100
ability to do any better over 
all over. 

346
00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:45,500
The the course of the season. 
And at least the course of this 

347
00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:48,000
last couple of weeks worth of 
games. 

348
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,900
And you know, what's 
interesting, is when you talk 

349
00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:57,500
about three, pointers in 
particular, since the Penn State

350
00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:01,100
game Indiana in all of their 
games. 

351
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:07,300
They hit six. 3s. 3, 3, 4, 3 is 
5. 3 is 5 3, 6. 3 is 5 3 is 10 

352
00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:11,100
threes against Minnesota and 
then back to 6 against Rutgers 

353
00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:14,700
and when you look at what their 
opponents have done in, Many of 

354
00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:18,600
those games they just as you 
said, been outscored from the 

355
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,400
ark and it's just what you know,
this was a relatively consistent

356
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,100
thing that I you was able to 
rely on in several games. 

357
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:30,600
They've certainly Fallen apart 
in a lot of their their losses 

358
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,600
or the close games that they've 
had from three. 

359
00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:39,500
And what I guess is really 
problematic is In the starting 

360
00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:43,600
lineup right now, the way it has
to be a situation where you've 

361
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,700
got outside shooting opening up 
the lane. 

362
00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,200
It's really the only way that 
this particular approach works 

363
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,500
and when that's not happening, 
it just makes it so much easier 

364
00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:56,000
on the opponent's and Indiana. 
Just has no second options. 

365
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,100
In terms of trying to generate 
offense, that, you know, they 

366
00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:02,900
don't get to the Lane 
particularly well and they don't

367
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,700
use athleticism to put 
themselves in positions where 

368
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,500
they're getting a Tremendous 
number of foul shots or, you 

369
00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:13,000
know, being a or able to convert
a tremendous number of foul 

370
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,800
shots. 
So I do worry about, I guess the

371
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,000
overall prognosis for the 
remainder of the season because 

372
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,800
what we're seeing out of this 
Indiana team right now is 

373
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,900
essentially what they've been 
doing for the last month and a 

374
00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:31,600
half. 
I think the Hope was that the 

375
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,100
games against Maryland Minnesota
had awoken them and gotten them 

376
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:38,500
out of this slump that they'd 
been in but Essentially. 

377
00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:41,300
No, I think what the Rutgers 
game showed us was that this is 

378
00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,900
a team that is essentially 
kneecapped offensively. 

379
00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:46,400
I don't know. 
I don't think there's a way to 

380
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,300
fix it because they're not going
to play anything, but good teams

381
00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:54,600
from this point forward and good
teams have shown, they can shut 

382
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,500
Indiana's offense down and at 
that point, the biggest 

383
00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:01,200
Advantage Indiana's had, which 
has been their defense becomes 

384
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,800
much less of an advantage, 
because they simply can't keep 

385
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,000
up with the scoring of the 
opposition. 

386
00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:13,400
Yeah, I mean if you go basically
this calendar year Mike, I was 

387
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,800
going to take it from the Purdue
game, you know, from the Purdue 

388
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,700
win. 
We've only beaten three teams, 

389
00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:22,200
Maryland, Minnesota Penn State, 
all who are sub 80 and Ken pom. 

390
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,100
So you look at that. 
It's like, alright, this team 

391
00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,500
hasn't shown ability to beat 
anybody. 

392
00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:29,300
It has to beat moving forward. 
Yeah, you know, just hasn't done

393
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,600
it, since January 20th. 
If you go to the beginning of 

394
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,500
the year, you know, it's week, 
two teams, Ohio, State and 

395
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,700
Purdue. 
But then you only add one more 

396
00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,100
team, we can be eaten as 
Nebraska. 

397
00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:43,800
You know, it's it is Bleak. 
But yeah, it's you know, you 

398
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,000
look at that, Maryland. 
Minnesota as like art, maybe 

399
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,500
they've woken up. 
Sadly could also be maybe. 

400
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:51,500
Maryland Minnesota has aren't 
that good and maybe we're just 

401
00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:53,700
we're just the tenth best team 
in the Big Ten and there they 

402
00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:56,400
12th in the 14th. 
Best team in the Big Ten and 

403
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,600
were able to beat teams at that 
level. 

404
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:03,000
Yeah, man. 
It's you know, I don't know if 

405
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,600
we want to go. 
I have a negative route and a 

406
00:21:04,608 --> 00:21:06,200
positive, right? 
We can go one or the other so 

407
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,300
you I kind of want to end on the
positive. 

408
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,200
Okay, I don't want to dwell on 
the negative. 

409
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,800
But I mean this is can I go 
bigger picture or like want to 

410
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,800
like get you you do what you 
want to go? 

411
00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:20,900
You're fine. 
Take us where you want to go. 

412
00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:24,600
It's fine. 
I mean, this is this is the 

413
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,700
thing that I really want to hit 
is just at a bigger picture and 

414
00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:31,200
this is the problem that really 
frustrated me in the Archie are 

415
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,500
and I probably never adequately 
set it correctly. 

416
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:37,700
I'm probably not going to 
Adequately, like push it out to 

417
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,400
now. 
But I wrote this down as an 

418
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,000
Indiana basketball fan, where I 
think Indiana is where we offer,

419
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,600
you know, we offer as a program,
the resources we put into it and

420
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,500
the fact that our athletic 
department, we sell ourselves as

421
00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:53,000
a historically, great. 
And, you know, good program and 

422
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000
we are a basketball school. 
This is what I think a four-year

423
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,900
run as a new coach to look like 
the first year. 

424
00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,000
You should make the NCAA 
tournament. 

425
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,800
The second year. 
You should be top five, Big Ten 

426
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,100
somewhere in that. 
Range and be in the NCAA 

427
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:10,600
tournament at a higher seat. 
The third year. 

428
00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:13,800
You should be in the top three 
in the Big Ten and pushing for 

429
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,100
that second weekend of the NCAA 
tournament. 

430
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,000
And by year for your at, you 
know, you're at peak level you 

431
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,800
are competing for Big Ten titles
and you're going to the final 

432
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,000
four. 
Now, it's funny. 

433
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,500
I'm talking to my friend Robert 
and the way down and he's, he's 

434
00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:28,500
like your well, but yeah, it's 
not always linear. 

435
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,300
It's like, yeah, like pet 
Michigan. 

436
00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:34,100
State could get bounced once as 
a 2 seed, but then like they 

437
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:35,400
come back in like, two years 
later. 

438
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,100
They're back up to that level. 
Like they're not myth like 

439
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:39,100
they're not having these ups and
downs and like by the way, you 

440
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:41,700
can have bad Seasons here or 
there if you had that nice run, 

441
00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,600
but that's kind of a four-year 
window. 

442
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,900
For me that what I'm very 
concerned about is what happened

443
00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:53,000
under Archie is by year for that
tea was not prepared to compete 

444
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,100
for a Big Ten title or a final 
four, but it's like, we were 

445
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,000
just as a fan basic. 
All we got to do is make the 

446
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,500
tournament to me. 
It's like, if you miss your 

447
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:04,300
year, one expectations year to 
expectations, don't change. 

448
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,800
You know, she don't get a five 
year plan or Six year plan or a 

449
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,000
seven-year plan. 
Now year, one and two. 

450
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,500
The expectations are kind of the
same. 

451
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:14,300
So, next year. 
I'm again, expecting top five, 

452
00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:16,600
Big Ten may or may not happen, 
but I'm still expecting NCAA 

453
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,200
tournament year. 3 is where it 
gets tough, where I expect a top

454
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,500
three and you're pushing for the
second weekend, and I'm worried 

455
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:26,400
that we're just going to push 
all of our expectations as a fan

456
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,500
base back, one more year and 
I'm, you know, this is where I 

457
00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:32,200
need you to kind of help me find
better corollaries, but you look

458
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,900
at like, Brad Underwood it, 
Illinois who took over? 

459
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,300
I don't think was a Better or 
Worse program? 

460
00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,500
I'm not sure they have more or 
less resources that us. 

461
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,000
I think they have less. 
I would have historically, have 

462
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,700
less to kind of pull from, you 
know, his first two years were a

463
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:45,800
little bit rougher than you 
want. 

464
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,600
But by year three, he was there 
by your for their fourth seat, 

465
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,100
4th ranked team in the country. 
It can be happening for years. 

466
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:55,400
So that is from a negative point
where I'm very concerned that I 

467
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,000
don't want to see that slide of 
expectations where by year three

468
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,100
or four, it's like, yes, in 
reality. 

469
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,000
This team has Archie's fourth 
year that team had no chance of 

470
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,900
making the Final Four. 
But to me, it's like that's not 

471
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:10,200
my problem. 
Like that is a your problem, 

472
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,300
kind of situation. 
And those are the Expectations 

473
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:16,100
by year for for Coach. 
So I just I'm just laying that 

474
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,500
out there. 
Now that my expectations are 

475
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:22,700
going to step up year over year,
even if you know, we look like 

476
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:25,200
we're going to be losing 80 
percent of our starting five. 

477
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,200
So that's I don't know. 
I want to get that out there. 

478
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,700
Okay. 
I mean look, I guess I take a 

479
00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:32,200
slightly different approach on 
this in that. 

480
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:40,200
The way that the program is set 
up is very much dependent on 

481
00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:47,300
what the coach is able to do in 
terms of selling a vision and 

482
00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:51,200
what the players that that coach
brings in are able to accomplish

483
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,100
within the confines of that 
vision. 

484
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:57,500
And I think that, you know, the,
when you look at IU, basketball 

485
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,600
over the course of this last 13,
14, 15 years. 

486
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:05,000
There's been a lot of support 
given to coaches while they're 

487
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,900
here. 
And the coaches have essentially

488
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,600
kind of backed themselves into 
Corners Koreans Corner, that he 

489
00:25:09,608 --> 00:25:13,000
backed himself into was just 
really sloppy recruiting 

490
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,400
practices. 
As he got further into his 

491
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,500
tenure. 
He's kept pulling players in 

492
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:22,200
that just did not have the 
capacity to be complete 

493
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,500
ballplayers. 
He, you know, players that were 

494
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:27,600
at a certain caliber of above 
and it up going elsewhere. 

495
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800
He was hard to play for for, for
several players. 

496
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:35,800
That ended up leading to issues 
as well Miller, you know, for 

497
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:42,200
whatever reason was incapable of
bringing in players that were 

498
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,500
able to rise to an occasion from
a personality perspective. 

499
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,300
And you know, the I think what 
you're seeing on this roster 

500
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:53,000
right now is still largely that 
now. 

501
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,100
Yes, you've got some new players
that have come in some of the 

502
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:59,100
transfers that Woodson brought 
in and I don't know that they've

503
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,900
necessarily worked out either 
in. 

504
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,300
Cases like Xavier Johnson. 
I think they have but in other 

505
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,500
cases they haven't now, what 
does all that mean? 

506
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,900
In terms of long-term prognosis 
for the program. 

507
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,800
I mean, the big issue for 
Indiana right now is that, you 

508
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,300
know, despite what look like a 
good foundation and despite 

509
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:20,700
certainly a lot of increases on 
the defensive side of the ball, 

510
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,200
which I think would some 
deserves credit for there. 

511
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,600
Really hasn't been much that 
look as looked different in 

512
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,600
terms of the output for this IU 
basketball team. 

513
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,300
It's hard for me to sit here and
just point the finger entirely 

514
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:39,800
Woodson, because you are dealing
with a roster of players that is

515
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,300
largely left over from the 
previous coaching staff, not 

516
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:45,400
completely. 
But, but largely, and you've got

517
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,300
pieces that plugged into that 
and guess what? 

518
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,600
They've largely taken on the 
culture that was already there. 

519
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,300
It's more to me. 
It's less a matter of like 

520
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,100
output as it is. 
What's the culture of the 

521
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:58,500
program, that's being 
constructed and does it actually

522
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:02,100
relate to. 
High level or at least mid-level

523
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,700
success. 
Both of which are things. 

524
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:07,100
Indiana hasn't really enjoyed 
over the course of the last 

525
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:10,000
seven, eight, nine years, and I 
don't know. 

526
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:13,200
I mean I was I was positive 
about it overall. 

527
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,600
About two months ago. 
I was like, wow, looks like 

528
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,200
Woodson's really gotten this 
team to buy into this idea that 

529
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,300
they can win these games that 
they can perform at high levels.

530
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:24,800
And now I'm not sure that that 
actually was the case. 

531
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,500
Now, you know, it's like, okay, 
was that just an Afterglow 

532
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,100
effect of having, you know, 
gotten some confidence having 

533
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,700
beaten a lot of lesser teams in 
the non-conference portion of 

534
00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,700
the season. 
Because if, you know, you can 

535
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,500
look at the season from the 
standpoint of how have they 

536
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:42,300
performed in games where it 
mattered and outside of the 

537
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:46,000
Ohio, State and Purdue. 
You games at home and I guess 

538
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,800
maybe the Notre Dame game. 
There's not a lot of games where

539
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
you can point to and say. 
Wow in that game where they were

540
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,700
taking on this team that was 
good or in this situation. 

541
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,200
That was tough. 
They succeeded, you know, Ken 

542
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,700
pom has this thing. 
If you pay for a subscription 

543
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:08,100
where they will rate games based
upon how difficult the the 

544
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:11,000
opponent and location 
combination were so that gives a

545
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400
tier 10 games and there's beats 
here games. 

546
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:19,500
Indiana's played in what's see, 
567 898 here games on the 

547
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,800
season. 
They've only won two of them. 

548
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
One of them was the Purdue game 
at home. 

549
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,100
And the other one was the game 
at Maryland, which I wouldn't 

550
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:28,900
exactly point to and say. 
Wow. 

551
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:32,300
What a huge accomplishment. 
You want it Marilyn, you know, 

552
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:35,000
the of the beads here games, 
which aren't quite as good. 

553
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,400
They've played one, two, three, 
four, five, six of those, and 

554
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,300
they've won half of them, but 
the three games that they've won

555
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,800
were the Notre Dame game on the 
road. 

556
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,300
At game Bridge, the Ohio State 
game at home. 

557
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:52,600
And then the Minnesota game on 
the road, and everything else 

558
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,900
has been a game that hasn't 
lived up to that caliber. 

559
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:57,400
Like they have largely beaten, 
the team's you would expect him 

560
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000
to be, they have largely lost to
the team's. 

561
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,900
You would expect them to lose 
to, and when you look at the 

562
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:05,300
overall resume of the Season, 
there's just not a whole lot to 

563
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:08,900
get excited about. 
And, and I, it's hard to say 

564
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:11,800
whether that is something that 
is going to change or not. 

565
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,700
I don't think we have enough 
evidence yet on the wood. 

566
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:17,100
Something I do think we've got 
some evidence that Woodson is 

567
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:20,200
still very much adapting to the 
concept of the college game in 

568
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,300
terms of, you know, who to leave
out on the floor, you know, how 

569
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:28,400
to call offense woods and seems 
like a guy who has coached at 

570
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,200
the NBA for a long time where 
it's like, well, you're a 

571
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200
professional you figure it out. 
This is definitely not a team of

572
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000
professionals that that is on 
this roster for IU. 

573
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,100
It's a team of college students 
as one would expect because it's

574
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:46,000
college basketball, but Will he 
have, will he be able to bring 

575
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,500
in the players that can play the
way that he wants to play and 

576
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,200
develop them enough? 
So that he can let things go on 

577
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,200
the floor? 
The way that he seems to want to

578
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:55,500
down the stretch and games? 
And I don't know the answer to 

579
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,000
that. 
I'm not terribly optimistic. 

580
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,100
But I do know that it doesn't 
seem to be working with this 

581
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,900
particular group. 
And I feel like at this point, 

582
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400
hate to say it, but it's 
probably too late this season to

583
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400
expect anything different from 
what we've already seen. 

584
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Like, there's more than enough 
evidence at this point. 

585
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:13,600
That would point to this just 
being unfortunately. 

586
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:15,600
Another kind of lost cause 
season. 

587
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200
Yeah, you have a tweet. 
You've used a couple times like 

588
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600
this is why we have trust 
issues, which is great in those 

589
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,400
in those in those losses, you 
know, Martha mop lady, patio, at

590
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,600
mop lady on Twitter, posted this
out, which is just mind-boggling

591
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,200
but the peak wind probability. 
And again, this is a Ken pom. 

592
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,100
It's that everywhere. 
But Ken Pon has it in a good 

593
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:40,100
spot, you know, pequin 
probability in our 11 losses. 

594
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:42,000
I'm going to run through this 
Syracuse. 

595
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,500
We had a peak win probability of
72%, Wisconsin, 97% Penn State 

596
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:51,100
74% Iowa, 75%. 
Those are all second half the 

597
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,900
Michigan. 
And Michigan, Illinois, don't 

598
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,500
count because those are first 
half, don't care. 

599
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:58,200
Northwestern 75%, second half, 
Michigan, State doesn't matter. 

600
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,700
We lost mean that was not there.
But then Wisconsin, 84, Ohio, 

601
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,800
State, 81, Rutgers 90. 
Those are all second half peak 

602
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,300
wind probabilities. 
Well over 70. 75 percent in all 

603
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:13,700
of those. 
It's mind-boggling that of that.

604
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:15,300
You have, you know, eight 
losses. 

605
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,600
I'm Three off the table because 
they were first half. 

606
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,700
And like you can't say, we 
really ever had a win 

607
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:23,100
probability against Michigan at 
home, but that's, that's a real 

608
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,600
problem, like it again to your 
point. 

609
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,100
Like that's where even if we 
play in the Big Ten tournament, 

610
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,700
we get to Purdue. 
I mean, I'll ask this fan, 

611
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,800
question to neiu Fan, listening 
to this. 

612
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,100
We come out against Purdue, and 
we play great and we have a 

613
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,000
eight point lead going into 
halftime. 

614
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:40,100
Is there anybody? 
Who's like, I'm, we're winning 

615
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,300
this game. 
Like, I have faith that IU is 

616
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,400
going to close this out. 
We go to the Big Ten tournament.

617
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,700
We get a fifteen. 
On Michigan in the second half. 

618
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:50,700
We're closing this out a book in
my second round. 

619
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,900
Big Ten tournament tickets, like
knowing this is where the trust 

620
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:57,500
issue comes in and it's it's not
just a coincidence. 

621
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,100
Like this is a pattern like this
is what, like, this is not a 

622
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:01,300
bug. 
It's a feature. 

623
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,500
This team just cannot close out 
hand on getting. 

624
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,200
I think it goes back to the 
three-point shooting. 

625
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,600
All all things were talking 
about, but it's, it's it makes 

626
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,600
for not a fun basketball viewing
experience because you're just 

627
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,800
waiting for your heart to be 
ripped out and even the times. 

628
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,300
It's not, it's the Minnesota 
games where you're like, damn, a

629
00:32:19,308 --> 00:32:21,200
10 point win. 
Would have been a lot more fun 

630
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,600
than what I just went through. 
Yeah. 

631
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,900
Now it's, it's really confusing.
It's one of those things where 

632
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,500
they should know better at this 
point. 

633
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:35,300
They should be able to carry on 
and capitalize on good first 

634
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:38,300
half's. 
But this is where I think the 

635
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,800
get out. 
The coaching difference was very

636
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,500
obvious in this Rutgers game, 
Steve pikul, I think is an 

637
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,700
excellent coach. 
I think I Said this last year, 

638
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,400
like if you lined up the game 
coaches, the guys who actually 

639
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,000
do the in-game coaching. 
He's probably top three in the 

640
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,400
conference. 
I'm actually surprised he's 

641
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,500
still at Rutgers and that a 
larger School hasn't snapped him

642
00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,800
up already because I really 
respect with that guys, able to 

643
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,100
do and they do keep in mind. 
This is a Rutgers team. 

644
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:05,500
That was really bad to start the
year. 

645
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:06,700
Lost. 
A lot of games that they 

646
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,600
shouldn't. 
This is not a team that should 

647
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,000
have gotten better. 
It's also a team that barely has

648
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,500
a bench like, go look at the 
minute distributions that 

649
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:16,600
they've had. 
I mean, it was I think all their

650
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,800
starters except one played 35, 
or more minutes in the game or 

651
00:33:19,808 --> 00:33:22,300
something like that. 
Like it was you know that when 

652
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:25,700
you look at IU and it's like, 
well depth probably shouldn't 

653
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:28,500
have been that big of a deal 
here because I use starters 

654
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:32,200
should have been able to match 
Rutgers starters and yet they 

655
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,800
just weren't over the course of 
the second half because Rutgers 

656
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,100
made adjustments, they made 
defensive adjustments. 

657
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,700
They figured out ways to get 
their Guys open and you just 

658
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:45,700
don't see either of those things
on a consistent basis in game. 

659
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Changing sorts of ways that 
Indiana needs to succeed. 

660
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,900
So, look, we've talked about 
this, a lot throughout the 

661
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,400
course of the year. 
And what's disappointing is that

662
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,700
when the problem started to crop
up and really, it was that 

663
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,400
Michigan game. 
I think that at home, where they

664
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,300
really started to crop up, it 
just is like, nothing's really 

665
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,699
changed, except Indiana getting 
worse in key situations in most 

666
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,500
of these games. 
Since then, that, you know, 

667
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,000
that's, that's the most 
disappointing thing to me and I 

668
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,900
think all the Hope that we had 
at the beginning of the year. 

669
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,300
The beginning of the Big Ten 
season was this team. 

670
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,699
Looks like it's getting steadily
better. 

671
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,100
It looks like it's you know, you
know by the middle of January. 

672
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:32,000
This was a solid single digit 
team in the NCAA projections and

673
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,500
it is not now it is a team that 
is probably going to miss the 

674
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:37,900
NCAA tournament which are going 
to talk about here in a second. 

675
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:41,800
And as you know, to your point, 
you just can't feel confident 

676
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,000
about anything that this team 
does positive because you feel 

677
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,199
like the of is right around the 
corner. 

678
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,699
It's why people got so upset 
about that. 

679
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:52,699
Minnesota game, you know, for 
all the people that said, well, 

680
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:55,199
hey, we should just be happy 
that it was a road win and this 

681
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:56,500
and that. 
And it's like you're missing the

682
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,400
point here. 
That's not a good Minnesota team

683
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:06,900
and it just demonstrated 
Indiana's inability to embrace 

684
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,100
success, to put themselves in a 
position where, hey, we've done 

685
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,700
something good. 
Now, let's build off of it as 

686
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,600
opposed to. 
Hey, we've done something good. 

687
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:17,900
We can stop playing. 
Now, or we can stop adjusting 

688
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:19,800
what we're doing to what the 
opponent is doing. 

689
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,100
And that is probably the biggest
thing culture-wise that has to 

690
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,300
change long term. 
Because this is what we saw in 

691
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:30,100
the Archie Miller era, you know,
this has been a carbon copy of 

692
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:32,700
what we've seen out of Archie's 
teams. 

693
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,400
It's part of the DNA of this 
program. 

694
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,800
Now, it's just like you, you are
going to find a way. 

695
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,400
Even if you accomplish something
in the first half of games for 

696
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000
your opponent, to take that away
from you, and that is Is 

697
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600
definitely something that's 
disappointing. 

698
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,900
Anyway, let's go ahead and talk 
mention. 

699
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,400
Sorry, but the only thing that 
changes, the only thing that has

700
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,800
changed since that Michigan game
is when the opponents are Penn 

701
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,100
State, Maryland or or Minnesota.
That's when we can get with me. 

702
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:05,000
It is really, it becomes a team 
where if I was looking at this 

703
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600
just, you know, we were just 
talking about teams to make the 

704
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,100
tournament and your team's the 
Big Ten. 

705
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,000
If I didn't ever watch them. 
As looked at me like, oh, yeah, 

706
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,700
like they can, they can beat bad
teams. 

707
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,100
They can't beat anybody better 
than that. 

708
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:18,000
Like, that's that's what the 
Looks like since January well, 

709
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,200
carry some water for you because
I know we want to talk about 

710
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,500
March. 
So, you know, let's talk about 

711
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,700
also talking about March means 
we got to talk about our friend 

712
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,100
Ed fang over at the power rank. 
It's coming up now that he's 

713
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,600
gonna be publishing, his new 
bracket wisdom. 

714
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,400
You want to win your March 
Madness, pool Gala, and I do 

715
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,200
one. 
I don't know who normally wins 

716
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,500
seeing me and Galen, but I 
normally don't win. 

717
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,100
I'm terrible at actually picking
hooty-hoo win. 

718
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,700
So I'm looking forward to the 
bracket wisdom. 

719
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:43,900
I really am. 
Yeah, that's no. 

720
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:45,600
So, Ed Fang. 
He's going to write the book on.

721
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,000
How to win your pool, you want 
to do? 

722
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,200
It is daily podcast, Series. 
Bracket wisdom is going to start

723
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
back again on March 7th, and 
we'll get, you ready to crush 

724
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,100
your pool. 
Look at that. 

725
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,300
You're gonna crush your pool. 
You're gonna, you're gonna be 

726
00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,600
the Ron Harper jr. 
Of your pool, you're going to 

727
00:36:59,607 --> 00:37:02,900
make a T-shirt and you're just 
going to be able to carry those 

728
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,100
those babies down there. 
So, check out the bracket wisdom

729
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:09,300
series, which appears on the 
football analytics Show podcast.

730
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:13,200
And as friends of the power 
rank, you can hook up with them.

731
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,600
Just sign up for the power rank 
of power rank.com. 

732
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:20,800
AC the power rank.com AC its 
sports, betting advice with a 

733
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,500
PhD Edge. 
So you understand what you need 

734
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,300
to do to bet on analytical level
and you're ready for March? 

735
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:30,100
Galen is Indiana ready for 
March. 

736
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Well depends on what you mean by
that. 

737
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,100
Scott. 
So here's the thing. 

738
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:38,100
There's been a lot of work going
to the dark web and looking for 

739
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:41,100
an IT Bracketology again, like 
this is such a dirty feeling. 

740
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:44,700
I mean, you still grow looking 
for like, you know, illicit 

741
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:48,300
drugs and and IIT projections, I
mean there's a possibility that 

742
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,300
yes, you're going to have to do 
exactly that. 

743
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:54,900
Here's the thing and this has 
become as it often is unpopular 

744
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,300
of me to say but Indiana is not 
out of the NCAA tournament. 

745
00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:00,600
Playoff picture for a jury 
selection picture. 

746
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,900
They're just not. 
I know people want to bury them 

747
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,100
and look I'm disgusted. 
I'm very disappointed in how 

748
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,800
Indiana has played. 
I'm very disappointed in this 

749
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,600
string of losses. 
I am not, I can't in good 

750
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000
conscience. 
Look at Indiana's resume and 

751
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,700
say, Well, they're not going to 
make the NCAA tournament at this

752
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,900
point. 
I think it's become very 

753
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,100
fashionable to exclude them. 
But honestly, they're in a mix 

754
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:28,300
with a bunch of other teams that
could be switched around by one 

755
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,200
Victory. 
And so when I look at Indiana 

756
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,900
right now, what I see is this I 
see a team that if they go up 

757
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:38,800
and win at Purdue they're going 
to be in the NCAA tournament. 

758
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,500
Regardless, that is a Very to 
me, it's a very straightforward 

759
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:45,200
equation and and here's my 
rationale for that. 

760
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,100
If they win that game, they'll 
be 10 and 10 in the conference 

761
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,500
and they'll be 19 and 11 and 
they'll have a road win at 

762
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:57,200
Purdue which is considered a 
very good win. 

763
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,200
I mean, you know, I think 
Wisconsin's one at Purdue and 

764
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,000
that's the only team that's one.
There's your Indiana would 

765
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,800
become only the second team to 
win at Purdue All Season that 

766
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,000
carries a lot of weight. 
And I think for the NCAA 

767
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,300
tournament selection committee 
at this, Point. 

768
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:14,900
All they're looking for is a 
pulse from some of these teams 

769
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:18,100
that are on the bubble and 
whether it's at the close of the

770
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:21,800
regular season or in the 
conference tournament, if you 

771
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600
can show you can win games away 
from home, particularly against 

772
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,000
teams like Purdue that tells the
committee. 

773
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:30,500
If we put this team in the NCAA 
tournament, they're not going to

774
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,900
embarrass us or themselves. 
They're going to be able to play

775
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:38,100
well away from home, you know, 
Indiana's, what's going good for

776
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,100
Indiana right now, I guess is 
this is a, they still That game 

777
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,200
on the schedule and I know 
everybody's dreading it. 

778
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,300
I'm dreading it. 
I don't really want to watch it.

779
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,900
But reality is it's there and 
it's actually an opportunity for

780
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:51,800
Indiana if they can take 
advantage of it. 

781
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,200
The second thing that's really 
helping Indiana is that because 

782
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,600
of the way Indiana's lost these 
games, the power rankings like 

783
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,900
them, you know, the like torvik 
doesn't get used necessarily in 

784
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:08,100
the selection process, but they 
are still, I think 23rd in 

785
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:12,700
torvik, you know, Ken Palm does.
Is generally get looked at and 

786
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,200
even with the losses, their 
47th, and they're right in the 

787
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,100
mix, with other teams that are 
under consideration for at large

788
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,100
birds. 
Now, they're kind of at the 

789
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:25,300
bottom of that list, but like, 
an SMU, for instance is ten 

790
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:28,900
spots below. 
Indiana, Miami is 13 spots 

791
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:29,900
below. 
Indiana. 

792
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:34,000
VCU is below them, you know, 
there's a couple of other teams.

793
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,300
Creighton is 67th in can pop. 
So what Indiana's managed to 

794
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,600
accomplish in terms of how 
they've played. 

795
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,700
Holds up fairly. 
Well, if you look at the actual 

796
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,900
Power Rankings, but the flip 
side is their non-conference 

797
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:48,400
strength of schedule was 
horrible. 

798
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,500
And they just haven't won that 
many games. 

799
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:54,400
Like you said, the last time 
they beat a team that wasn't, 

800
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:58,900
you know, clearly going to miss 
the NCAA tournament, was when 

801
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:02,500
they beat Purdue. 
And that was January 20th, and 

802
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,500
you have to go all the way back 
to January, 6th to find the last

803
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:09,800
time before the Purdue game that
they beat a team that's going to

804
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
go to the NCAA. 
A tournament ultimately, the 

805
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,600
only wins they have against 
teams going to the NCAA 

806
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,100
tournament, for sure, right now 
our home game against Ohio, 

807
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,100
State and a home game against 
Purdue. 

808
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,900
And I think if I'm the 
committee, I'm looking at that 

809
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,700
and I'm saying, you need to show
me more, like, if you'd won, if 

810
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,400
they won that game at Ohio 
State. 

811
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,200
I don't think we're having this 
conversation. 

812
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:33,200
If they'd won the game wanted at
one of the two Wisconsin games. 

813
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,500
If they won, one of the two 
Wisconsin games, if they'd won 

814
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,500
the game at Northwestern, you 
know, even though that wasn't 

815
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:41,100
necessarily, you know, that 
wasn't a Irwin. 

816
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,700
It's a road win and it they 
would already have guaranteed 

817
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:46,800
themselves a 500 record in 
conference. 

818
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,200
They've had so many missed 
opportunities down the stretch 

819
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,200
and now they're out of 
opportunities except for the 

820
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,300
Purdue game. 
If they lose that game. 

821
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Now, I do think they're going to
end up in a situation where 

822
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,200
they're going to have to beat 
Michigan and because that's now 

823
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,000
with Michigan. 
Losing the Iowa last night. 

824
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,300
That's almost certainly who 
they're going to play, and 

825
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,400
they're going to have to go out 
and beat Purdue or excuse me. 

826
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,700
Wisconsin in the 18-game the 
following day. 

827
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:15,900
I don't have faith in them 
beating Michigan. 

828
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,700
Let alone beating Michigan 
followed up by beating 

829
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:22,200
Wisconsin. 
So, you know, essentially the 

830
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,700
whole season at this point, 
really feels like it's riding on

831
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:28,400
this Purdue game because again, 
I'd love to I'd love to say 

832
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,000
look, we've got evidence that 
they can win on a neutral floor 

833
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,400
against good competition. 
I don't think we've got that at 

834
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,800
this point. 
So it's hard to, you know, given

835
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,500
not just the overall history of 
IU in the Big Ten Tournament, 

836
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,300
but also given Their history 
against the teams that they're 

837
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:46,000
going to have to play you. 
It's hard to look at that Big 

838
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,100
Ten Tournament match up and see 
anything other than a game. 

839
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,300
That looks a lot like the game. 
Indiana played against Michigan 

840
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:55,400
at home. 
A couple of months ago, which 

841
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,800
was not a very pretty exercise. 
I have one thought, two 

842
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,700
questions. 
First, it just kind of yes/no 

843
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:04,900
questions. 
If they beat Purdue at Purdue, 

844
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:07,700
do you think they're like, are 
they in hard stop? 

845
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:09,800
No matter what happens if they 
in the in the Big Ten 

846
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,800
Tournament, I think they They 
are I think a team that's coming

847
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,500
off a win in March at Purdue, 
which is one of the probably 

848
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:19,100
three or four toughest places to
play in the country. 

849
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:23,700
This year that pushes you to a 
500 record in conference gives 

850
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,900
you a season sweep against a 
team. 

851
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:30,100
That is at the worst. 
Probably a two seed that is 

852
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,700
going to be enough for the 
committee to say, you know in 

853
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,700
comparison to some of these 
other bubble teams. 

854
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,200
We feel like Indiana should be 
in the field. 

855
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,500
So that's I think that yes there
for their info. 

856
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:42,900
Stop. 
If they win on Saturday, if they

857
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:46,600
lose on Saturday. 
Do you think two wins is enough 

858
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,700
to get them in? 
I know where theoretically, you 

859
00:43:48,707 --> 00:43:51,400
know, theorizing, but like, do 
they, they be Michigan. 

860
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,900
They beat Wisconsin. 
The question is, obviously, is 

861
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:55,500
that enough? 
Yeah, that would be enough 

862
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:58,600
because, for this reason, they 
have a neutral Court win against

863
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,700
a prospective NCAA tournament 
team in Michigan. 

864
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,700
They have a neutral Court win 
against a minimum two seed in 

865
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:11,100
Wisconsin, who won the Big, Ten 
title outright and that would 

866
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,500
mean that theoretically that 
point they're 11 and 11 in 

867
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:19,300
overall conference play and even
if they go out and lose the next

868
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:23,000
game and you know, at that would
that would probably be against 

869
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,500
I'm not even sure who that game 
would be against at this point. 

870
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:31,100
I guess if you look at the seed 
calculations for whoever the 

871
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:32,700
four seed would be here, so 
would be either. 

872
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:36,500
So be Rutgers or Iowa, maybe 
which that's actually kind of a 

873
00:44:36,508 --> 00:44:39,200
winnable game. 
But even if they lost that game,

874
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,400
both of those teams are going to
the NCAA tournament. 

875
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,000
I think at this stage Rutgers is
the only one where the that win 

876
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,900
for them at Indiana. 
Should have put them in. 

877
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,300
They've got one more game at 
home against Penn State. 

878
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:55,600
They'll be 12 and 18. 
Conference, they'd be 18 and 12 

879
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,300
on the season. 
Even if they lost to Iowa. 

880
00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:00,600
I think they'd be in the NCAA 
tournament, given everything 

881
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,300
else that they've done. 
But yeah, for me, winning two 

882
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:07,000
games and then a loss against 
one of those teams in the 

883
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:10,900
semi-finals of the Big Ten, that
would be, that would not be a 

884
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:13,400
problem. 
I think Indiana would would, you

885
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,000
know, from that be able to get 
into the NCAA tournament? 

886
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,100
We talked about two wins in the 
Big Ten Tournament. 

887
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:23,900
Like it's no big deal when you 
know, I like I'm Trying to think

888
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:25,900
when was the last time? 
Indiana, won two games in the 

889
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:30,900
Big Ten tournament was a 2002. 
Well, I was talking with a 

890
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:33,800
friend this morning and it's 
like, it was like, do we need to

891
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,800
win two or three? 
You know, if we lose to Purdue 

892
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,600
when two or three, it's like 
we've made the Big Ten final. 

893
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,600
As many times. 
We made the final four in the 

894
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,700
last 20 years. 
So it's like those are kind of 

895
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:46,700
off the table. 
But here's my positive thought 

896
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,400
for IU fans. 
I can't believe I'm taking this 

897
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,500
side. 
I love it. 

898
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,500
You know, I remember talking to 
people at Bankers Life or game 

899
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:59,600
Bridge Field House going into 
that Notre Dame game and people 

900
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,400
were down because we just lost 
the Syracuse game, the Wisconsin

901
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,900
game and it's like, okay, but 
like if we win this game, like 

902
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,100
if they can beat Notre Dame, 
we're back on. 

903
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:09,700
We beat Notre Dame that people 
feel better. 

904
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,200
And then we lost Penn State. 
It's like, oh no, but they went 

905
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,600
out and beat Ohio State and if 
people were kind of really 

906
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,400
getting nervous after the Iowa 
lost than we beat Purdue. 

907
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,100
And probably myself a little bit
too much include. 

908
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,200
It's like, okay, this This is 
like that show that like, the 

909
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,500
faith, the leadership. 
And man. 

910
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:25,800
It's like, we didn't know, two 
days later. 

911
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,300
It's like, oh, shit, we're gonna
lose the Michigan. 

912
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,600
But the point is, and I was 
guilty of this, a little bit 

913
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,100
too. 
Right after the Rutgers game. 

914
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,800
You took a breath. 
And it's like, okay. 

915
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,200
We are not out of the NCAA 
tournament. 

916
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,500
I know we're all looking at this
game, at Purdue is an L. 

917
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,500
But it's the reason we were so -
after the Iowa game is, we are 

918
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:45,300
looking at, like, it's like, oh 
shit. 

919
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:47,400
We got a paper due and Mission, 
we're gonna lose back-to-back 

920
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,100
home games. 
Well, we didn't and this is the 

921
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,100
the flip side. 
I'd is, I'm not saying it's 

922
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:54,900
easy. 
My joke is always like hope is 

923
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,400
not a plan. 
But in this case, you got to 

924
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400
kind of hope that this team 
could do things that they 

925
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,800
haven't shown, they've been able
to do in two or three months, 

926
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,300
but like there are still out. 
There are still doors open like 

927
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:10,000
we are not having this podcast 
after a season-ending loss, go 

928
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
out and win a game like and like
but you said it, you said it 

929
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,700
fantastically a couple minutes 
ago that like they've kind of 

930
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,400
used up all their other options.
Like this is the last they 

931
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,400
backed themselves into a corner 
and this is not the Easiest one,

932
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,400
like, would have been much 
easier to just go ahead and, you

933
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,900
know, win that game at 
Wisconsin, where I give you a 20

934
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:28,800
point lead, like cash that one 
in or go ahead and beat at 

935
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,200
Northwest. 
There's a lot of easier ways to 

936
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,000
get there but you still got one 
left and, and that is the 

937
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,500
positive side of things. 
Is you go out and win this game,

938
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,600
you're in the NCAA tournament, 
and you've washed away a lot of 

939
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000
the sins. 
So to speak of the last two 

940
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,400
months, but you got to go do it 
but you can still do it. 

941
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,300
I mean, it's, it's not 
impossible. 

942
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Teams can go to Purdue. 
And when you look at from a Our 

943
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,100
point of view. 
That's the other thing that I 

944
00:47:53,107 --> 00:47:58,300
really hope to see is honestly 
outside of Purdue just hating IU

945
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,600
/. 
Do really has nothing to play 

946
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,800
for in this game. 
I mean, they're big 10 seed is 

947
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,200
set, you know, they, again, they
hate. 

948
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,100
I you, the fans have everything 
to be fired up for, but from a 

949
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,300
Purdue team that kind of locked 
in where they're gonna be. 

950
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,400
I mean, there are two seed in 
the NCAA tournament. 

951
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,400
They maybe have an outside shot 
at a one, but that's going to 

952
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600
happen in the Big Ten Tournament
not against. 

953
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,900
I you they don't. 
We have everything to play for. 

954
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,100
So when you look at it from a 
effort and like who's got more 

955
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,400
to play for kind of thing. 
And that's something that you 

956
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,400
look back at games. 
Like. 

957
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Oh, yeah, we'll make sense. 
Like they had everything to play

958
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,700
for like that should matter. 
So, that's the positive spin is 

959
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,700
like, you have everything to 
play for Purdue outside of just 

960
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:42,500
wanting to kick your butt, not 
getting swept by you. 

961
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,900
They don't really have much to 
play for so go win the gate like

962
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:50,000
you can still there, still it 
out, there still a door that 

963
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,700
says NCAA Tournament, it hasn't 
been boxed in like it's tougher.

964
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:56,600
It's a tougher door to open but 
it's there and that's the 

965
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,900
positive way as we still sit. 
Here were one win gets us in. 

966
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,500
I mean, we have a history of not
making those winds but let's 

967
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,700
like go get the win and I will 
say this team has done it in the

968
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,100
past where nobody really 
expected us to win that Ohio 

969
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,000
State game after a Penn State 
loss. 

970
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,300
We did it. 
Nobody expects us to win the 

971
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:14,700
Purdue game. 
We did it. 

972
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,400
Those are both Assembly Hall, 
fully aware of that. 

973
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,400
But like this is a little bit 
harder, it's Mackey. 

974
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
But Do it. 
Like, that's the positive spin. 

975
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,400
Is there still a very much a 
real shot at doing it? 

976
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,500
You just this team has to kind 
of step up and do it and they've

977
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:32,500
shown no ability. 
Overall. 

978
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:34,000
I mean the you? 
Yes, you're right. 

979
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,800
They did come back and beat Ohio
State and they, you know, but I 

980
00:49:36,808 --> 00:49:39,000
bet. 
And I get it, I get it. 

981
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:41,700
And look, I want to be 
optimistic. 

982
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:46,500
But I also it's funny. 
Like somebody asked me, you 

983
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:48,800
know, it was, I think it was an 
assembly call because I was on 

984
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,200
that after the Minnesota game 
and they were I can do as your 

985
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,300
heart rate come down. 
Yes. 

986
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:57,500
I'm all right and go up like I 
expect this and I'm at the point

987
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:01,800
where I want you to do well, but
this this vintage of IU 

988
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,100
basketball, you just expect that
they're going to come up short 

989
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:08,600
when it matters and I think they
deserve credit for beating 

990
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,700
Purdue this year. 
They needed to do that. 

991
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:14,000
I think the idea that they're 
going to find the internal 

992
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,500
fortitude that is frankly been 
lacking in this team and this 

993
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:21,700
program for several years now to
suddenly figure How to go up and

994
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:24,300
win in Mackay for the first time
in a decade. 

995
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,500
In this circumstance, even with 
Purdue technically not having. 

996
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,800
I mean I disagree that Purdue 
has nothing to play for. 

997
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,200
I think Purdue is there. 
They are playing for seeding, 

998
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,700
not in the Big Ten Tournament, 
but in the big dance at this 

999
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:40,900
stage and this is a 
disappointing, Purdue team. 

1000
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,000
I think it's actually kind of 
hilarious that a Purdue team 

1001
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,300
that's got the best offense in 
the NCAA that, you know, this 

1002
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:51,300
was their golden year when they 
had all of the pieces in place 

1003
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:55,000
and they have a lottery Pick and
they've got these Twin Towers. 

1004
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,800
Down low and they've got a great
outside shooter there. 

1005
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,000
They're in danger of like 
dropping off the to line in the 

1006
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,900
NCAA tournament. 
They're not going to win the Big

1007
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,700
Ten regular season. 
They're not probably the 

1008
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:08,700
favorite to win the Big Ten 
Tournament. 

1009
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,900
They have blown it. 
This is actually I think a kind 

1010
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:15,100
of a hilariously disappointing 
produces and now it's 

1011
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:18,000
significantly more successful 
than anything. 

1012
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,300
I you is done over the last nine
years. 

1013
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:24,400
So yeah, you know, so don't I'm 
speaking out of this purely out 

1014
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,400
of spite. 
As opposed to any, you know, 

1015
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,100
perceived feelings of moral 
superiority. 

1016
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:34,300
But, but I do think that this 
Purdue team as disappointing in 

1017
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,000
context, as this season has 
been, and the fact that they 

1018
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,600
have lost two straight games. 
Now, to close out the season and

1019
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,700
they've lost three of their last
six. 

1020
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:48,600
They're looking at this and 
they're saying, you think we're 

1021
00:51:48,607 --> 00:51:50,200
going to lose to Indiana at 
home. 

1022
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,500
No, you know, we want to finish 
14 and 6. 

1023
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,000
We want to get our 25th win of 
the regular. 

1024
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Season. 
We want to put ourselves in a 

1025
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,300
right mental set. 
As we go into the Big Ten 

1026
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:00,700
Tournament. 
I think they're going to come 

1027
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:04,000
out and be absolutely fired up. 
It's senior night at Mackey 

1028
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,100
Arena. 
It's, you know, you're talking, 

1029
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,700
you know, beating Indiana is not
going to when you any awards at 

1030
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:16,400
home at this point, but it's 
still it's a better win than it 

1031
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,400
would be a bad loss. 
And yeah, so as far as produce 

1032
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,900
concerned, they've got a lot to 
play for just doesn't, it's not 

1033
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,800
anything with seating. 
Just more pride and hey, let's 

1034
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,300
get the season back on track 
guys. 

1035
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:31,000
We're not going to lose three 
straight for the first time. 

1036
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,100
I mean, they lost two straight 
for the first time this season. 

1037
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:34,900
The idea that they're going to 
suddenly turn around and lose. 

1038
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,700
Three straight seems a little 
bit unlikely. 

1039
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:40,800
I mean, yeah. 
Yes. 

1040
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,400
I'm trying to take the positive 
attitude and then you can't just

1041
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,200
come back at a Visser. 
A me with facts and figures and 

1042
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,400
things things that are true. 
But yeah, it's, those are all 

1043
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,800
the real things. 
And yeah, if I'm betting, I've 

1044
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,800
been saying for a while, I'm 
taking Peru and whatever, 

1045
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,900
whatever, whatever line they 
have for news, probably going to

1046
00:52:56,908 --> 00:52:59,200
cover it and that's based on my 
feeling. 

1047
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,300
But again, it's like it's, you 
play the game and theoretically,

1048
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:06,800
you could win and it's get it 
done. 

1049
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:08,500
Yeah, that's kind of what it 
comes down to. 

1050
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,000
As you've, this team has put 
themselves in a spot where it's 

1051
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,700
like, this is the hardest. 
This is the hardest out for you 

1052
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:17,100
to figure out, but you did. 
That's what you got to do. 

1053
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,500
Yep. 
Anyway, that'll wrap it up for 

1054
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:21,400
us. 
Our thanks to the power rank. 

1055
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,200
Our thanks to home-field 
apparel, or presenting sponsor 

1056
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,400
and our thanks to all you folks 
for listening as Indiana heads 

1057
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,300
into march, with the same level 
of uncertainty that we are used 

1058
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:35,500
to seeing in March, as for yet. 
Another season. 

1059
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,300
If Indiana does make the 
tournament, they're going to 

1060
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:42,400
have To do some work in this 
month to actually get there and 

1061
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:46,300
all we can hope is that what 
we've seen is not an indication 

1062
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:49,100
of what we will see over the 
course of the last couple of 

1063
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:52,500
months. 
And so that'll that'll be our 

1064
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,200
big watch item here. 
Good luck to the Indiana women 

1065
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,500
as they try to secure home court
through the first couple of 

1066
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:02,100
rounds of the NCAA tournament. 
Big game against Maryland today.

1067
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,500
If you're listening on Friday as
we record this and hopefully for

1068
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:08,200
the women they can turn it 
around and get themselves. 

1069
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:11,800
Victory against an NCAA 
Tournament down team, and you 

1070
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,300
know, in Korea improve their 
seating capabilities as they 

1071
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:17,700
head into things. 
So, for Scott, I'm Galen. 

1072
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:19,800
Thanks for joining us here 
again, on Crimson cast. 

1073
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,300
And we will catch you folks on 
the flipside Hoosiers. 

1074
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:25,900
Play on Saturday versus Purdue 
will keep an eye out on that. 

1075
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:28,400
Will be back early next week. 
Bring back the Bison. 

1076
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,000
So long, everybody.