1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,560 You're listening. To the back home network. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:22,040 Presented by Home Field Apparel Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,000 GAIL and Clavio joining you. It is Saturday morning, April 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,440 12th. Happy Masters weekend to those 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:36,360 who celebrate Indiana. We got a lot going on here in 6 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,280 terms of weather if you've been around the state. 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,160 Over the course of the last couple of weeks, we've had 8 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:42,600 storms, we've had. We had a freeze warning last 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,440 night, just a it's April in Indiana, and one day you walk 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,120 out and you're like, wow, it's spring, this is delightful. 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,160 And the next day you walk. Out. 12 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:52,440 It's like, well. Winter's back again. 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,640 So if you've lived in this state for any period of time, you know 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,240 exactly what I'm talking about. Short show today. 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Not a huge number of updates. We'll talk some IU football, 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,400 we'll talk some IU basketball, we'll talk some college sports 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,720 stuff in general, but let's just go ahead and dive into it. 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,280 First, just a reminder were brought to you by Home Field 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Apparel, a place to go for the finest in college. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Fashions the softest, fabrics the coolest. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Designs and home field, of course, with some championship 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,640 swag. 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All right, let's dive in. 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,760 We'll talk a little IU football 1st and we'll move over to 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,960 basketball as. There hasn't been a flood of new 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,480 news on basketball yet, but we do have a couple of things that 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,360 we can bring to you. First off, let's talk about IU 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,320 football. We saw Kurt. 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Signetti come out and talk on. I guess this would have been 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,240 Thursday and he was not. Happy if you go back. 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,640 And and look at his comments. He was displeased. 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,120 With the lack of juice. In practice on Thursday, the 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,080 lack of effort and it's funny like you can always if you 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,520 followed Nick Saban's. Career or if you follow some of 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,800 these other really successful football coaches, they always 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,040 talk almost to the point where. They get made fun of about, you 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,520 know, essentially taking every opportunity to. 70 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,120 To get as good as. You can on a day by day basis. 71 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,480 It's very unusual. For IU to have a. 72 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Coach that talks in that parlance, but that's what 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,320 they've gotten. Kurt Signetti and and he he came 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,960 out and said, you know, I think today, this was on Thursday. 75 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,480 I think today we squandered an opportunity to improve as much 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,360 as possible. Probably not mentally prepared 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,760 to come out and do what it takes. 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,680 To have a successful practice. And improve as much as. 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,040 Possible. You know this is it. 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Also, you know if there's many other. 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Situations we've seen in. College sports, if you read 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,399 about it at all. This is the kind of of talk you 83 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,920 want to see out of your coach, especially at this time of year 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,320 where there's very. Little at stake. 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,320 There's very little going on but this. 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,960 Is where a lot of the material improvements can start to happen 87 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,200 in terms of execution, understanding the playbook, 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,840 understanding how to. Work with each other so I I 89 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,400 think for a lot of. IU fans, you know if you haven't 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,720 seen the clip from Signete. Go seek it out. 91 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:41,880 It was. It kind of. 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,960 It brought a smile to my. Face like here we. 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Are in the middle. Of April. 94 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,320 And you've got a coach that's trying to push the team forward 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,960 to be better and that's refreshing. 96 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,640 I'm glad. To see that that's occurring. 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,800 There was an interesting set of interviews with the incoming 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,120 running backs and of. Course Caleb Black, who? 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,800 Stuck around from last year and, you know, Black was asked about 100 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,880 how the running back room compares to last year and noted 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,120 like he didn't see there being any kind of a drop off. 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,680 That they brought in some really heavy hitters who are. 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,040 Bringing it. As he put it to every practice 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,520 and so you like to. See that and hear that? 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:21,720 As with. Everything. 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,920 It's hard to necessarily. Take what you're. 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Hearing in these media availabilities and translate it 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,400 into any kind of tangible expectation at this point, 109 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,560 everybody thinks they're going to be good. 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,400 Every fan base and and every team thinks they're going to be 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,960 good going in the next year in some way, shape or form. 112 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,400 I think for Indiana, you know what you want to see and what 113 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,800 you want to. Hear is this idea that hey, we 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,520 got a. Long way to. 115 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Go to get. To the level that we want to get 116 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,120 to and that last year is over. And as we wind our way through 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,360 spring practice, getting ready for the spring game coming up on 118 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,280 Thursday of this upcoming week, I think a lot. 119 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:01,920 Of it for IU. Really just comes down to 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,440 maintaining that mentality that. There's a lot of work. 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Left to be done and what are you doing to try to get yourself to 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,440 the point where you can really? Compete. 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,480 At the level you need to. You know, we'll we'll obviously 124 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,520 talk a. Lot more about schedule and 125 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,760 roster and what not later on in the summer. 126 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,240 But you know. So much of this ends up coming 127 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,840 down to this. Idea of you know. 128 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:26,440 What is the sense of urgency? There was a nice piece by Pete 129 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:33,240 de Premio on iuhoosiers.com. Regarded, you know, it really 130 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 talked about like. Needing the sense of urgency and 131 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,400 practice, you know there's there's a. 132 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,480 Real. They're just the. 133 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,600 Wind mantra from this team. Is. 134 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,920 I think it'll be an interesting one to see how it translates out 135 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,720 onto the field. This year is going to be a 136 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,720 little different than last year. You know, it almost felt like 137 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,120 last year's team. You. 138 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,640 You felt like they might have some potential, and then things 139 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,680 started to roll for them. But they snuck up on some people 140 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,120 in terms of, wow, is Indiana actually this good? 141 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Then you'd play them. It's like, oh. 142 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,680 Yeah, they are actually this good. 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:09,080 So ultimately as as Signeti. Pointed out in an earlier press 144 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,360 availability, You know, I don't see any glaring. 145 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Holes out there, he said. But he also said. 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Like do we have any groups that are? 147 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Ready to compete? For the Super Bowl right now, I 148 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,040 don't see that. Either I see a. 149 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Work in progress, like every team in America right now. 150 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 So ultimately you. Got to integrate the new pieces 151 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 and there's a lot of new pieces that are going to have to play 152 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,760 well from. The word go as you do have. 153 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,960 A more challenging schedule in the way it's laid out than what 154 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,760 you had last. Year, you've got that early. 155 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,720 Game against. Illinois, you've got those Rd. 156 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,040 Games against Iowa and Oregon? You got that road game against 157 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,840 Penn State. Later on, so you know. 158 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,000 The one thing that is is. Pretty clear overall. 159 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Is Signetti is still grinding and this team is starting to 160 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,360 figure things out. As far as what they are. 161 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Expected to be and the idea that Signetti goes in and has a bit. 162 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Of a blow. Up with them at a. 163 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Practice about a week. Before the spring game, clearly 164 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,080 not accidental. And this is, you know, there's a 165 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,240 mentality there that's nice, but it's also to some. 166 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Degree The. Kind of thing you expect from 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,680 coaches if you've watched coaches enough, if things are 168 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,560 going. Well, you have to create. 169 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Some adversity or some kind of a a negative reaction? 170 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Because you got to give. Your players something to play. 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Against. As they're going through the 172 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,200 practice and going through trying to. 173 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Figure out what they're supposed. 174 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,960 To be avoiding complacency, something that we hear about 175 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,440 over and over again in sports and certainly for a team like 176 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,039 Indiana going into last year, you don't have very much at all 177 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,440 to be complacent. About this year you could. 178 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,280 I mean, you go. To the College Football Playoff. 179 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,600 And you're celebrating the greatest season in team history 180 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,680 in terms of regular season. A. 181 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:58,800 Lot of it ends up getting to you in a negative way if you don't 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,680 have something to point to to say. 183 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:02,480 We have to get. Better off of that and. 184 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,600 It's what we've heard out. Of this team and the coaching. 185 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Staff over the course of. Some of the availabilities this 186 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,000 spring, this idea that, yeah, we had a great season, but two. 187 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Out of our last three games, you know we're not. 188 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Good. Like we didn't. 189 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Play to anywhere close to. Our, our level and we've, we've 190 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,080 got to fix that. We've seen some rankings of 191 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,200 different players in the Big 10 that have. 192 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Popped up lately as we're. Starting to see some preliminary 193 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,560 media for next year as rosters are mostly set. 194 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,320 Not completely, as we'll talk about in a minute, but. 195 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,520 You know Elijah. Serrat I think I saw. 196 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,880 Him on a list the other day as like the. 197 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,960 Second best returning receiver in the Big 10 they're. 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Probably right. I mean serrat. 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,440 Had a a great season last season, 53 catches and you know 200 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,200 but. I think you're also. 201 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Sleeping on Omar Cooper at this point and Omar Cooper junior 202 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,240 with with almost as many touchdowns last year as Sarat 203 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,400 wasn't targeted quite as much. You do really wonder, the more 204 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,960 you learn about Curtis Work's injury, how much that might 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,600 have. Affected his ability to equally 206 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,920 target both sides of the field. And it's going to be fascinating 207 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,840 with Mendoza under center, what Indiana's approach. 208 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Is with the wide receiver. Core. 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,160 I don't expect Indiana to have the same approach offensively 210 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,240 necessarily. That they had last. 211 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,560 Season, especially with the change up in the offensive 212 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:25,640 coaching personnel with Chandler Whitmer coming in to replace 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Tino Sinceri as the COC and quarterbacks coach. 214 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,360 How that affects the play? Calling and how that affects the 215 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,960 way that Mike Shanahan decides to go about the offense is going 216 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,360 to be really interesting. And then of course. 217 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Obviously, how effective could. Indiana's offensive line be as 218 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 they reconstitute themselves with some new personnel also. 219 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 So we'll see what happens with the spring game. 220 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,480 I didn't want to give everybody a little. 221 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Bit of a weather update as far as the. 222 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,880 Spring game is concerned. Hopefully you're going to be 223 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,240 able to make it down, obviously moving the game from. 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Saturday to Thursday hurt. In some ways, but probably 225 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,160 helped in some other ways in terms of maybe you can't get 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,360 down here on Easter weekend, which is what it was going to 227 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,200 be, but you can get down here on a Thursday evening, I'll say if 228 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,320 you're in Indianapolis and you can make it down. 229 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,320 It's a pretty quick drive. You know, you can get from 230 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,200 Zionsville to Bloomington, like downtown Bloomington in an hour 231 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,120 now thanks to the Interstate. So don't if you haven't been 232 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,440 back to Bloomington in a little bit but you'd like to come down 233 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,360 and check the game out on Thursday, it's not going to be 234 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,240 that long as they're only going to play, I think a simulated 235 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,600 half. But I would try to get down 236 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,920 there and and see what's going on with this team. 237 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,560 It should be a lot of fun. I'm going to be there in some. 238 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,760 Capacity, we'll see what? Happens with everything in terms 239 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,320 of who's playing and and what they end up doing. 240 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:46,760 We also got to keep an eye on the weather as it's going to be 241 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,480 pretty wet that day, supposed to have rain probability throughout 242 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 the day, although in the evening it's not supposed to be raining 243 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,600 and. It looks like. 244 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,400 You know, the rain probability drops pretty significantly, so 245 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,800 hopefully. We get at least. 246 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,480 A dry period during the game. Itself, but hopefully we'll see. 247 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,400 You down here for the spring game Should be a lot of fun. 248 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,680 I'm looking forward to seeing this team back in uniform for 249 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:13,360 the first time in what will essentially be four months since 250 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,080 the last time we saw them up in South Bend. 251 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,200 So we'll it's nice because that that ends up. 252 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,720 Being kind of the marker and you get past that marker and you 253 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:23,640 realize. We're only. 254 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,480 Four months essentially at that. Point little over. 255 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,680 Four months away from. The start of the regular. 256 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:30,840 Season and that is certainly exciting. 257 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,920 As we're really looking. Forward to seeing what IE 258 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,520 football does in year 2 of the Curt Dignity era. 259 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Let's go ahead and jump over to basketball on the. 260 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Indiana side real quick, not a whole. 261 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,480 Lot of. Additional news from what? 262 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,120 We talked about before. When we. 263 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Discussed all of this of. Course I I think. 264 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,520 It was after the last podcast I. Did I was on a trip so I'm I'm a 265 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,280 little bit behind, but they signed Reed. 266 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,560 Bailey, the 6:10. Forward from Davidson Reed 267 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,440 Bailey Interesting film. You should go check this out if 268 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,760 you haven't yet. Bailey averaged 18 points, 269 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,200 almost 19.6 rebounds 4. Assists in about. 33 minutes a 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,560 game at Davidson and was an All Atlantic 10 first team 271 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,160 selection. Really looks like an intriguing. 272 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Prospect. Definitely a guy who is. 273 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,840 Not a banger in the paint, more a player that you know, shifts 274 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,440 and moves. Almost like a point forward. 275 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,480 In some ways, in terms. Of the way he distributes. 276 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,960 The basketball, at least in the way Davidson was using him. 277 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,440 And if you've watched enough? Film of what Devries is like to 278 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,720 do. Offensively, you can see him 279 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,000 fitting in potentially in terms of of how Indiana would want to 280 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 go about running their offense. Not entirely certain on the 281 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,920 defensive front as you know Bailey certainly not the most 282 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,800 physically imposing of individuals and average less 283 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,240 than one block shot a game. So obviously just one piece in 284 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,480 in part. Of a larger puzzle. 285 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,640 That Indiana's trying to put together, but a nice piece to 286 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,000 have and and certainly I think a piece that's going to slide in 287 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,400 well. To this particular system so you 288 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,440 look at Reed Bailey you you've. Added him now to. 289 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,040 A roster that has Tucker Devries, who? 290 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,120 It's funny, like, you know, for a lot of people, they are. 291 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Looking at what Indiana's done so far in the portal and. 292 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Underwhelmed because of the lack of numbers and I've heard a lot 293 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,600 like where are the top level? Players and I think. 294 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,560 We forget Tucker Devries, one of the best shooters in the portal. 295 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Came here and yes. He's here because his dad's 296 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,600 here. But. 297 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,560 That's still a very nice pick up for Indiana Connor Enwright. 298 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,120 The the guard from DePaul. Also in the mix. 299 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,520 And then a bunch of players that. 300 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Indiana's still waiting on and I know some people. 301 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Still getting nervous? We talked about this about 9 302 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,680 days ago. I would just say pump the brakes 303 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,920 a little. Bit we've still got. 304 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Plenty of time, a lot. Of the signings that we're 305 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,680 seeing last year that were really good. 306 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Didn't happen until later on in April and with the house 307 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,600 settlement not having been finalized. 308 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,000 The rush. Again, as I said. 309 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Last week, the rush that a lot of people. 310 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Thought there might be to get these deals signed. 311 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,360 Has lessened. Because it does not appear. 312 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,440 We are in imminent danger of getting a final ruling on that 313 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,440 settlement, and even if we did, I don't even know when it would. 314 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,800 Necessarily take effect so a lot of what you're. 315 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,400 Seeing right now, I think is players evaluating what their 316 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,200 possibilities are shopping themselves around. 317 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,600 We've seen a couple of instances already now. 318 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Where players have backed out or have utilized the. 319 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,520 Recruitment by one group of of teams. 320 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,440 As a way to get. Recruited by another group of 321 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,920 teams in the portal. Indiana's out there. 322 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,960 Essentially kind. Of swimming in the same. 323 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Waters that everybody else. Is at this point and. 324 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,960 The roster I think is. Slowly building. 325 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,080 There's some visits on campus this weekend and a lot of it now 326 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,960 just comes down to. Is there a fit? 327 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,120 A mutual fit between the two parties. 328 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,320 Can you? Close can you get the types of 329 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 players that you. Want knowing that? 330 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Well, hey, if you don't land a. Particular player There are many 331 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,360 other players out there that. Not just fit the statistical. 332 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,160 Profile but also fit the personality profile that you're. 333 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Looking for if you're daring debris? 334 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,920 So you'll see names. Pop up and this is. 335 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,320 As I think I talked about a couple of weeks ago, this is a 336 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,280 great time. To not be on social media and 337 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,800 not be on the message. Boards because what we're 338 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,800 seeing. Over and over again is a name 339 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,840 will get mentioned. Everybody rushes to watch. 340 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,080 Film you fall. In love with that player and 341 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,000 then the player. Goes somewhere else and and it 342 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,040 really just underlines. A core tenet of the portal, 343 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,400 which is that you don't know. And a lot of times the names 344 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,600 that are getting mentioned. These are leaks that are. 345 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,000 Coming from managers or, you know, assistant coaches? 346 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,680 That have relationships with journalists or agents a lot of. 347 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Times it's agents. Because they're trying to drum. 348 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,400 Up interest in in their. Player so these are almost 349 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,440 always rumors that are not. Attached to anything concrete, 350 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,720 they're they're half information or. 351 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,079 They're, you know, they're not necessarily fully. 352 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Something that you can count on, but the problem is the average 353 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,839 fan online gets really attached. Because they think, oh, this 354 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:20,640 player is going to come to IU or this player. 355 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,319 Is going to come to whatever institution and then they don't 356 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,760 and you get upset because you've now invested yourself in some 357 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,600 way, shape or form in that player being there. 358 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Even though there was no assurance necessarily that that 359 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,840 player. Was coming even in the. 360 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,120 The Truly. Donovan, you know, message. 361 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:41,480 Boards of the world where you'll get these very definitive. 362 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Statements like this player is. Going to this school the the hit 363 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,320 rate on. Those is not what you would 364 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,560 think that it is and one of the issues that you run into right 365 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,400 now is that. For a lot of players, this is 366 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,360 still open. Season in terms of figuring out 367 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:00,000 what their actual market. Value is teams are also. 368 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Trying to discover that as well, and teams are trying to balance 369 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:09,000 a certain degree of salary cap management for lack of a better 370 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,800 term. With the idea of hey. 371 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,240 We're going to go. Get this particular player and. 372 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,400 Again, what I would warn. People on is You've. 373 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Got to be cautious about what you are guessing. 374 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,480 A player is worth or how good a player? 375 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,120 May necessarily be or not. Be as we've seen over the course 376 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,760 of the last couple of years, you've had some players. 377 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,400 That have transferred from big program to big program that 378 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,720 everybody got excited about and they ended up not necessarily 379 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,360 panning out for the majority of the season. 380 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Maybe they would pan out late, but maybe not pan out at. 381 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,520 All we've also seen. Players that were only 382 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,920 marginally regarded because they came from smaller. 383 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,480 Schools I I saw a. Thread on one of the message. 384 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Boards for IU where? Someone was lamenting the. 385 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,120 The list of. Players that Indiana look like 386 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:01,560 they were in for and there was some kind of comment. 387 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Like, you know, the IU is going to really regret having hired 388 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,760 this coach because. Clearly they're not in for very 389 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,520 many top. Level players or top level? 390 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,640 Athletes and and yet when you go around and you look. 391 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,160 At a lot of the really top level players. 392 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,960 For many of the top level teams that transferred in, a lot of 393 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,080 them came from. Smaller schools we've talked 394 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,080 about. Several of them on the. 395 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Show so you know it's. It's a mistake to automatically 396 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,800 assume that you know how good a player is going to. 397 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,360 Be or what type of? Of player Indiana is even 398 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,240 looking for in the first place. So. 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,120 Again, I'd counsel some patience. 400 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,720 There was some news from. This past week. 401 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,080 About Indiana making some moves finally, on the coaching staff 402 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,640 front, there was an announcement that. 403 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,320 It. Wasn't an official announcement 404 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,280 yet, but the Kenny Johnson is coming back. 405 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,520 That's an interesting 1. Kenny Johnson, of course, was on 406 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:02,000 the IU staff for many years under Tom Crean and then ended 407 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,240 up at. Louisville was. 408 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,320 Kind of part of that whole scandal down there and then. 409 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Was actually at Rhode. Island and then Georgetown. 410 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,320 Over the course of the last. Few years. 411 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:14,840 There was a lot of. Initial consternation from 412 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,280 certain circles about the Kenny Johnson signing and And yet when 413 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,920 I look at it and I got an e-mail from a from a couple. 414 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,240 Of folks like Wow. Indiana, you know, must be. 415 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,280 Really willing to go. In on the deep end in terms of 416 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,840 signing. Coaches who have. 417 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,840 Gotten in trouble with the NCAA? Before. 418 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,880 You know, and look, I I would caution people in terms of 419 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,840 thinking that way for a couple of reasons. 420 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,040 First of all, the the Louisville. 421 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,640 Situation with Kenny Johnson. What I would look at there is. 422 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,600 All of the things that Johnson ended up getting taken out on 423 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,680 that. Job for are things. 424 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,960 That I would caution you to read too much into in terms of the 425 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:02,760 current rules landscape of the NCAA. 426 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,960 And you know, ultimately, I think it's interesting that I 427 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,640 you and and Darren Devries. Look at this, at this. 428 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Particular potential hire and said this is a guy that we want, 429 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,800 Johnson opens. Up a lot of doors. 430 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Obviously in terms of the DMV. The you know the the DC area 431 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,920 basically. In terms of recruiting, where 432 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,120 Indiana has gotten some excellent players in the past, 433 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,440 you know, it's interesting I I find with IU fans that once a. 434 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Coach leaves. Rarely is there a situation 435 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,920 where people are really excited to see that. 436 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Person come back. There are a couple of. 437 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,960 Exceptions to that, obviously, but. 438 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,680 With the with. The Kenny Johnson news at the 439 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,000 end. Of it all like the the. 440 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,760 Majority of the things that IU fans would have looked 441 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,680 negatively at with Johnson are now not impermissible by NC. 442 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760 AA rules, so you're in a different. 443 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Era at this point and ultimately. 444 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960 As you have to go. Out and get players. 445 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:02,840 It's I, I saw somebody say like, why would you bring a guy in 446 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,720 whose primary staple is recruiting when recruiting isn't 447 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,400 that important? Recruiting is still incredibly 448 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,600 important. Like I, I, I, I'm fascinated by 449 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,040 the mentality that somehow recruiting is not an important 450 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,400 part of college basketball now. Because as we've talked. 451 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,080 About on the show many times. There is a a real. 452 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,280 Need to build relationships and that's. 453 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,560 Really what recruiting is all about when you think about the 454 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000 way that IU. Has gone about this in the past 455 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,880 and you look at the. Last eight years of. 456 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:38,440 Recruiting, it's been a pretty uninspiring approach from IU in 457 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,920 terms. Of the way that they have. 458 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,560 Built and sustained relationships. 459 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,480 You know, we saw throughout the Archie Miller era. 460 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,120 And throughout the Mike Woodson. Era that. 461 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,080 I you really struggled in this? Category and so I'm really. 462 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Fascinated to see what ends up happening here with with Kenny 463 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Johnson and whether he can. Rebuild. 464 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,320 Some of the old relationships that he had and how that plays 465 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,560 in to what Darren. Devries's overall. 466 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Mission is, we have heard. Quite a bit about, you know, the 467 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,080 idea that this is going to be a large. 468 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Staff and so you know Kenny Johnson is 1 member. 469 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Of that larger. Staff, I think could only be an 470 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,160 asset to Indiana in terms of what they want to do in terms of 471 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,720 talent acquisition. I'll also note this. 472 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,920 You know, Bob Knight of all people? 473 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,560 Used to regularly bring in former head coaches or former 474 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,320 not so much former assistant coaches, but. 475 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,480 Former head coaches who were. Damaged. 476 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Goods and they would rehabilitate. 477 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,600 In his system, Nick Saban, as you'll note, often does the same 478 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,520 thing with Alabama. And you know a. 479 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Lot of it really is what? Is the environment that Indiana? 480 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,240 Is able to. Provide and when you think about 481 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840 the war chest Indiana's got with nil when you think. 482 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,120 About all these other factors. That Indiana will have in the 483 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,520 mix and you think? About the fact that. 484 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,880 As we move forward, Indiana's going to be in a position where 485 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 they can take advantage. Of a larger. 486 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,040 Than average amount of money in an era. 487 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Where you have to. Have people who know how to 488 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,160 build relationships and know how to get people to come to your 489 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,800 institution to play basketball. You want coaches with Kenny 490 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Johnson's resume on your staff? So I understand some trepidation 491 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,960 from certain IU fans, but this is one of those hires. 492 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080 I think that makes a lot of sense and I'm curious how they 493 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,360 fill. Out the rest of the staff. 494 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960 Another new hire for Indiana is Mike. 495 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,720 Bargain or bargain? I haven't. 496 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,040 I'll be honest, I haven't figured out exactly how to 497 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,560 pronounce the name yet, but. Coached at. 498 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Bradley in the Missouri Valley as associate head coach and 499 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,880 offensive coordinator and was a coach that this is an off. 500 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,640 The court roll. That he's been hired at. 501 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,520 That's according to the Indy Star coached with. 502 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,680 Darren Devries before they both work together at. 503 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Creighton under Dana Altman. So this is. 504 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Another coach that IU head coach Darren Devries has. 505 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,160 Some past history with so it'll be interesting to see how he 506 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,400 integrates and and what this off. 507 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,560 The court roll looks. Like I'm, I'm always fascinated. 508 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,880 With what exactly these roles are? 509 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,040 Going to look like overall. And how they all play out but. 510 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,560 I think for Indiana, the idea they're building a large staff 511 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040 and they're going to have both recruitment and player 512 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,920 development is a good thing, obviously. 513 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,840 And, and look, Mike Woodson had the same thing. 514 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280 So this. Group now includes. 515 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,800 Those two coaches alongside. Nick Norton, who came with 516 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,760 debris from West Virginia, and Drew Adams, who came from 517 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Cincinnati. So it'll be interesting to see 518 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,640 if anybody. Else. 519 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,960 Gets added to the mix and even though there hasn't been an 520 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,400 official announcement on this. I expect we're pretty close to 521 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,960 what? Indiana's going to end up with. 522 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,320 As far as their total setup of coaches and that can only help. 523 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,800 On the recruitment front, I don't think it's any coincidence 524 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 that right. Before these recruits that. 525 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,640 Are coming in this weekend to visit I US campus. 526 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,120 You've got this kind of unofficial announcement that 527 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:08,000 you've got 2 assistant coaches that are now completely in the 528 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,880 fold. So things are coming together. 529 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,040 For IU. And as we look around the 530 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,560 college landscape, you're still seeing guys hop into the portal. 531 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,240 I think there's another. 12 days left for where? 532 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Players can enter the portal. So a lot of things that are 533 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,280 going to be really fascinating to to watch here, I think over 534 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,280 the next week or two as Indiana starts to round their roster 535 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,000 into shape now that they have the coaching staff, it looks 536 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,440 like mostly squared away. Indiana's tried with some other 537 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,280 assistant coaches as well, you know. 538 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Unofficially, we heard there was a lot of. 539 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Back and forth over an assistant at one institution that had 540 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,920 coached with Darren Debris. Before looked like that coach. 541 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,120 Was going to come to IU and then their school. 542 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,800 Offered them a. Bunch of money and they ended up 543 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,840 sticking around and I think you're going to. 544 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,560 See a lot of this. Within the confines of the 545 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,160 college basketball landscape. Because everybody tries to 546 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,120 figure out what what is it? That we need to do to sustain 547 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,120 success. I think a lot of. 548 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,960 Schools that have the financial backing are just like what we 549 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,200 need to spend money and we'd rather keep. 550 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,160 A really good. Staff member in. 551 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Place obviously if the guy. 'S going to go be a head coach 552 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,440 somewhere. You're probably not going to 553 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,720 stop him from being able to do that. 554 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,720 We talked about that a bunch in football with Kaylin de Boer. 555 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,680 Like there were people that. Were arguing like why didn't I? 556 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,960 You offer him more money to stay rather than him taking the 557 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,280 Fresno State job. And it's like, there's a huge 558 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,960 difference between hey, someone wants to hire me as an assistant 559 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,920 somewhere else versus hey, someone wants to hire me as a 560 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,760 head coach and I get all that increased responsibility and and 561 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,680 prestige. So. 562 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,560 It's not a foregone conclusion, as it might have been in the 563 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,280 past, that if Indiana or Kentucky or Kansas or whomever 564 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280 comes calling. That you're going to leave your 565 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,320 role and go. Be an assistant coach somewhere 566 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,960 else. Especially if your. 567 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,560 Institution that you're currently at. 568 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,360 Is like, hey, we'll pay you whatever. 569 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,240 They're going to pay you maybe even more to stay here. 570 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,240 And at that point, if you're Indiana or Kentucky or Kansas or 571 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,680 whomever. You've got to think, well, how 572 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960 much do we really? Want to spend on this person and 573 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,240 are there similarly good options elsewhere and? 574 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,040 So, you know, much like the player situation. 575 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,120 That Indiana runs into. Sometimes it might. 576 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,320 Be that you could. Spend the money on the player, 577 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,320 but. Is it worth it after a certain? 578 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,920 Threshold and we've seen that in some of the things that are 579 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,800 going on in. College Sports. 580 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,640 Movement right now with. Players where you know, there 581 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,640 was there was a recent. Announcement about a new signing 582 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,880 or I don't even know if signing is the right word necessarily. 583 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840 But you know, there was. A. 584 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,680 A note that what? What was the name of the player 585 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,680 Rob Wright, who had been at Baylor, is signing at BYU and 586 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,080 there were other schools interested in? 587 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000 Rob Wright, but he's reportedly. Signing at BYU for three and a 588 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,880 half, $1,000,000 for this upcoming year. 589 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,520 Which is nuts, but that's the. Landscape you find yourself. 590 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,960 In If you've got a school that's willing to open up the. 591 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080 Pocketbook and go out. And and you know. 592 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Pay a lot of money for particular players. 593 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,520 They may not be like, no, I don't want the extra money, I'd 594 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,080 like to. Go to this this one school, you 595 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,440 know, at this point, I think for most of these players, you know, 596 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880 yes, you'd like to play on a a highly competitive. 597 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,040 Team but. You're often times going to a 598 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,960 school if they've got. A bunch of money that can be 599 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080 competitive and will be competitive, so why not just go 600 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,600 ahead and do? That as opposed. 601 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200 To Oh, I'm going to take less money to go to a. 602 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Supposedly more prestigious school. 603 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,600 I mean you. Look at what happened in. 604 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,640 The Elite 8 this. Year and or the Sweet 16 and 605 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960 some of the teams that were there, I mean the idea that 606 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Houston, which 10 years ago was not a major player really in 607 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,480 college. Basketball at all? 608 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120 They were an afterthought, like. Barely could get people. 609 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,440 To their games on campus. You know they accrued enough 610 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,680 talent over the course of time and and recruited smartly. 611 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080 And now have the nil. Money available. 612 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,120 That they became a destination. Just by steadily improving over 613 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,080 time. And this is where it's almost 614 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,360 like the new world order of college sports. 615 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,400 In as much. As you've you've got to take 616 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,240 into account this. Idea that it is not a. 617 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,200 Requirement that you go to one of the very. 618 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Top teams in college basketball. In order to be able. 619 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,560 To compete for a national. Title or or the latter? 620 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,800 Stages of a a tournament and and I I can't. 621 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,560 Kind of overstate this enough. Indiana does not have a lot of 622 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,440 built in market advantages right now. 623 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,600 Brand new coach. Not a lot of players on the 624 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,560 roster. And for a lot of. 625 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,240 Players, they're looking at the landscape. 626 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,640 And they're saying. Well, why accept less money to 627 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920 be part of one of those? Organizations if I've got a. 628 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,880 Smaller. Organization, smaller school 629 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,160 that's willing to pay me as much or more where I might shine a 630 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800 bit more and have more opportunities, you know and 631 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,320 again like. You go back four or five years. 632 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Florida not in particularly good shape from a record perspective, 633 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,640 you. You look at. 634 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,360 A A school like Tennessee. That's a That's a school. 635 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,040 That missed the tournament three years in a row between 2015 and 636 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,880 2017 and was going to miss the tournament probably in 2020. 637 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320 And yet they've built their. Roster into something where it's 638 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720 a destination location and and you know they were able to. 639 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Pull a guy like Dalton. Connect a couple of years. 640 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Ago or they were able to, you know, pull, you know, some of 641 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,000 the other. Players that have been out there 642 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,480 who was a Chaz Lanier, I think. Who played at North Florida for 643 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560 four years. Comes in and, and, you know, 644 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,960 chose Tennessee and, and ended up being one of the best players 645 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960 in the country. Auburn fits into that same 646 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960 category. Alabama from like six or seven 647 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,520 years ago fits into that category. 648 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Texas Tech fits into that category. 649 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280 And they had that big dip post Chris Beard. 650 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,480 And and they've shot right back up again. 651 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,160 So my. Point is just simply, you know, 652 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,680 a lot of it comes. Down to resource management, and 653 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400 this is where if you're in Indiana, you want to get. 654 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,560 The best possible assemblage of. Talent, but you don't want to 655 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,680 significantly overpay. Even if you've got. 656 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,240 More money than everybody. Else, unless you feel like it's 657 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,640 going to give you such a competitive. 658 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,760 Advantage that you have to have that player and. 659 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,160 I just, I've yet to see people. That I use been in. 660 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,160 For where it's. Like if we don't get that 661 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,720 player, we simply can't compete. There's no other player like 662 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,480 them in the portal. Like that's where I I think for 663 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,160 Indiana you look. Around and, and this is where 664 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,560 people have got to remember there are a huge number of 665 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280 college basketball programs. There's a lot of really good 666 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,920 players. Some of those players are 667 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,400 playing at a level or two below in terms of school level where 668 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,080 their talent level is actually at. 669 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,560 And so that's what excites. Me about some of the names that 670 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840 have been on Indiana's list, even if they're from. 671 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,960 Smaller schools at this. Point again, and I'll keep 672 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,240 saying this, like you got to trust the talent evaluation that 673 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,800 Darren Devries and his staff are going through. 674 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,640 With some of these players. Much as we did with. 675 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,200 Football last year. When Indiana brought a bunch of 676 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,240 JMU players in. Some other players from some 677 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,680 smaller FBS schools, couple of SCS players, if you looked at it 678 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,960 and you said. Well, those players can't 679 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,240 compete at the highest. Level. 680 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,000 Well, you were wrong. Because they did. 681 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,800 So you you do have to, to some degree check a little bit of. 682 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600 What you know about plugging talent in and where talent comes 683 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,880 from at the door in this process. 684 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600 It doesn't. Necessarily mean that it's 100% 685 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,760 going to work. But I don't. 686 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Think that you can go into the process assuming that it's not 687 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,760 going to work. It's also. 688 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Just it's crazy out there. Right now, for those of you who 689 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,200 didn't see the news this morning, Tennessee announced 690 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400 that they're moving on from their starting quarterback. 691 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,720 Nico, I am Olivia or. However you pronounce his last 692 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,640 name. Doing my Scott impression this 693 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,920 morning but they announced that after he did not attend 694 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,400 practice. Submit nil contract discussions. 695 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,960 That they're like, sorry we're. Done. 696 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,760 You can assume perhaps he made an ultimatum. 697 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760 On an nil number. And they said, no thanks, we'll 698 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,760 move on. But this is the domino effect at 699 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,120 work. 'Cause if they're actually 700 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,320 moving on, and we'll see, maybe there'll be some kind of 701 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,639 reconciliation here. This might be Tennessee's 702 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,679 ultimatum right back, you know? Teams that are desperately. 703 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,080 Looking for a starting quarterback? 704 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,159 Well. There's one in the portal right 705 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,000 now. So now who's going to be willing 706 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,280 to pay? So again. 707 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,719 Whether you're talking about basketball. 708 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,719 Or whether you're talking about football, it's not simply a 709 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,840 matter. Of we're going to go get 710 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,199 players, there are other players that you can. 711 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,560 Probably get that may not cost you as much money and it does 712 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,360 matter how much money you're spending on those players in 713 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,560 terms of a collective. I'm very fascinated to see how 714 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,320 this. Plays out. 715 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,080 We're going to talk a lot more once we get that. 716 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,480 House finalized the House. Settlement finalized. 717 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,080 Just talk through. What some of the implications of 718 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,639 that are going to be and how it ends up playing out. 719 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,320 So we'll continue to update you. Over the course of the next 720 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,720 couple of weeks with IU Basketball News, roster, 721 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:04,000 editions, whatnot, emergency pods generally go over to 722 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,840 assembly call for those, but we'll try to give. 723 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,840 You some updated analysis as we find out more about the 724 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,880 different folks coming in to play basketball for Indiana. 725 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,760 Anyway, that's going to wrap. It up for us today. 726 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,280 Thanks for joining me. Relatively short show, but we'll 727 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,760 be back with more coming up soon. 728 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,440 For the back home network. And for Crimson Cast, I'm Galen 729 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,640 Clavia. We'll catch you folks on the 730 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000 flip side, thanks to our presenting sponsor, Home Field 731 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,160 Apparel. Stay never daunted. 732 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,960 Bring back the Bison. So long, everybody.