1 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,300 And welcome back to Crimson cast Galen klaviyo, Scott Caulfield 2 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:20,200 joining you. It is Friday, the 17th of 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,600 February as Indiana, fully into the last six to eight weeks of 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,600 its season here, which is hard to believe. 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,700 It's been a season that is flown by the Hoosiers with a 6 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:35,900 disappointing loss in more ways than one earlier on this week. 7 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:38,500 We're going to talk about that. We'll also talk a little bit 8 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:41,300 about what's coming up in the next couple of games. 9 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:45,400 Some very important games for this IU men's team as they try 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,400 to get themselves in a better position, not just for the Big 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,700 Ten Tournament, but also the NCAA tournament Scott. 12 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:51,100 Good to see you. How you doing today? 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,900 I'm doing great, man. Great to see you too. 14 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:54,500 We're in the, we're in the great. 15 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:56,400 Run a sports, talk about it every year this time. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,900 It's like you have the NFL playoffs? 17 00:00:57,900 --> 00:00:59,800 Yeah, you have the college playoffs. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 The NFL playoffs wrapping up your the Super Bowl. 19 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:05,200 It's like those of us who are into college. 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,900 Basketball is not a surprise, but it feels like that. 21 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,300 Everybody wakes up at the oh, there's like three weeks left. 22 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,000 And then it's college basketball, you know? 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,900 The tournament time for the conferences and then there's the 24 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:15,600 real tournament and then it goes right in for me. 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,300 It's like those in the Masters and goes right into any car 26 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:20,800 opens up and then the Indy 500 and then it's like, so I love 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,000 this stretch for here till May. Yeah. 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,600 No, it's great. I always talk about. 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,500 This is my favorite time of year sports-wise from from basically 30 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:31,000 the end of the Super Bowl. All the way through to the Indy 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,100 500. It's just like to me, like all 32 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:35,600 my favorite but almost all my favorite events happened in that 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,500 span, which is cool. 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So, first of all, before we get 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,800 started, I do want to say this, if you haven't watched the eiu, 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,600 women's team play, you need to watch the IU Women's team play. 64 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:19,300 And, and I just one of those things where I know there's a 65 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:22,800 portion of our listening audience, that just hasn't put 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 the women's team in their regular rotation of viewing, but 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,600 they're on TV, essentially all the time now, and they just keep 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,700 just smothering. The opponents that they're 69 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:34,400 facing that her top 25. They did that last night at home 70 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,200 against Michigan. Just smothered them in the 71 00:03:37,208 --> 00:03:39,700 second quarter and then pretty much kept them at Bay the whole 72 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:43,900 rest of the game. It's one of the most like, well, 73 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:47,200 put together teams I've seen in a while men's or women's 74 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,000 basketball. They've got a dominant post 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 presence in Mackenzie homes. They have all of these shooters 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 on the outside, they've got freshmen that are contributing, 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,100 they've got fifth-year seniors that are contributing. 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,800 It's a really fun team to watch and they're heading. 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,700 The a really fascinating stretch of games here. 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,500 As they're going to be taken on Iowa, on the road College 81 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,900 GameDay is going to be in Iowa City for that game. 82 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,700 They got to go to Maryland, they got Purdue at home this upcoming 83 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:13,300 weekend and then they got the Big Ten tournament and then the 84 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:16,500 NCAA tournament where right now the projected to be a number 85 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:19,399 one, overall seed not overall but it's the number one seed. 86 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:21,300 South Carolina is the number one overall seed. 87 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:23,900 But again if you haven't watched the team you need to catch. 88 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:26,600 At least, just catch a game, watch the whole thing. 89 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:28,900 I think you'll be surprised at what you see if you haven't been 90 00:04:28,900 --> 00:04:31,300 watching them regularly. Lee and for those most of you in 91 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:33,200 the audience that have been watching them regularly, you 92 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,900 know exactly what I'm talking about now and I'm one of those 93 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:37,400 people. I watched you in the last two 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,600 tournament runs. I've been watching 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,100 intermittently but I made a point of viewing the IU Iowa 96 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:45,400 game a couple weeks ago we can half ago and we sat with my kids 97 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,600 and watch that dinner and it was awesome. 98 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:51,200 It was fun to the point that James our friend of crimson 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,500 cash. I need if he's listening he's 100 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:55,600 got to help me out. I started being like I want to 101 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:57,000 like I want to bet on these games. 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,500 Like how do you like and I've dug through FanDuel And points 103 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:03,500 bet they don't have lines on women's basketball is able to 104 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:06,500 find, but I was like, this is like, Indiana is a great bet. 105 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:08,400 I wonder what the line is. I'm like, the Indiana Michigan 106 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,800 game. I dug around, could not find us 107 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,500 a James are listening. If anybody knows where the line 108 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,600 is, is James, it's true. Yes, I will. 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,000 We've got him on that and hopefully, he can come up with 110 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,200 some thoughts for us, but the women in action, again, again, 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,600 this weekend and This is a game that you I don't even think you 112 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,600 can buy tickets for at this point. 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,900 Like they've sold out all the general admission, and I think 114 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:36,900 the get in price is it's like significance like 50 bucks or 115 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:38,600 something like that. I might be more than that. 116 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:44,700 So that's great for people. But, you know, noon on noon on 117 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:47,100 Sunday on Big Ten Network, if you're not going to go in 118 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:50,700 person, Indiana hosting Purdue, they have a chance for the 119 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:54,300 season sweep and can clinch the crimson and Gold Cup or 120 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:55,400 whatever. They're calling it now. 121 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:57,200 Between the two schools and basketball. 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Because that would be at least three wins for Indiana against 123 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,700 Purdue overall. Anyway, let's talk about the 124 00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:10,500 men's team as they fell on the road at Northwestern by 2 and 125 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:15,000 drop their record overall on the season to 18 and 8 9 and 6 in 126 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,600 conference. Drop them back into. 127 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:20,100 What at the at the moment is a three-way tie for third, but 128 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:24,600 Indiana is actually in last place in that mix I believe 129 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,900 because they have, they lost a Maryland and they've already 130 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:31,800 lost one game to Iowa. So Indiana right now. 131 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:35,400 Out of a double by but there's still a lot of games left to be 132 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,700 played. Let's talk about the 133 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:41,200 Northwestern game. First Scott as you know I had a 134 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,700 premonition before the game that this was going to be a problem. 135 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:46,100 A lot of people felt the opposite. 136 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:48,400 They were like you know I feel good about this I you knows what 137 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 they're walking into they're gonna be able to handle 138 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,900 Northwestern and that just isn't how it worked at all. 139 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:58,300 Northwestern able to Parlay, you know what had been a relatively 140 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:04,900 close game to start into a Very decisive, 2:38 run. 141 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:14,100 That took the score from 10:48. I u-233 215 Northwestern and you 142 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,300 know, it was one of those situations where we've seen 143 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:20,400 Indiana. Do this earlier on this season. 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,600 We saw it against Kansas. We saw it against a couple other 145 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,800 teams, starting and Northwestern. 146 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,400 The first time, these two teams play and it just, it was 147 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,500 unfortunate because we've seen it over and over again. 148 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:33,800 This team just gets into these Six where everything starts 149 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,500 going wrong, their offense, doesn't work than their defense 150 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:38,700 breaks down. And they just, they can't seem 151 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,600 to stem the tide. And, in this case, that's what 152 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,100 happened they made. I thought a really Gallant 153 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:45,800 effort to come back in the second half. 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,600 They have the game tied up at the end. 155 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:52,800 Really questionable non-call at the end of the game that allowed 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,700 buoy to somehow. I guess just use his, his 157 00:07:56,700 --> 00:08:01,500 telepathic powers to move Trey, Galloway out of the way, created 158 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:05,300 a lot of Space, yeah, created a significant amount of space gods 159 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,800 and and so Indiana ends up losing the game. 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,600 You could feel good about the comeback. 161 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,900 And certainly, I think that is something that this IU team has 162 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:18,000 not historically done, but you have to feel pretty disappointed 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,800 in the way that it transpired to even get to that point. 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,200 In our last couple of losses, it will be lost to Northwestern. 165 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:31,800 They went on a 2:38 run are lost to Maryland before that, Mare 166 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,900 Went on a 13-2 to run in the first half our loss to Penn 167 00:08:35,900 --> 00:08:38,000 State. I would there wasn't a major and 168 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,600 I would say the game was an 85 266 run for pain stays in the 169 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,000 whole game was a run but you go back to the Iowa game that was a 170 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,400 ton of runs but Iowa had an 11-0 run in the first half on a 14-2 171 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,700 run in the second half of the you go to the Northwestern game 172 00:08:51,700 --> 00:08:55,800 in Assembly Hall, Northwestern had a 13-2 run in the first half 173 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,400 and a 12-2 run in the second half. 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,400 And to your point that this is something that, you know, yes, 175 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,600 they made A comeback and they they solved, it looks like 176 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,100 they've solved some of the problems of being slow to make 177 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:09,300 adjustments. Where in the first half, we 178 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:13,000 looked basically inept on offense, they made some changes. 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,900 They got the trace, the ball in different areas, where able to 180 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:19,700 make a comeback. But it's like you you dug 181 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:23,800 yourself too deep of a hole and you can't just give up a what 182 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,900 you know, 2:38 run. You have to stop it at some 183 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:31,300 point there you can't go six and a half minutes of game time 184 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:35,100 without Or and this is a problem that has plagued this team 185 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,200 honestly predates. Mike Woodson much like three 186 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,800 point shooting and free throws, I'm not sure how we shake out of 187 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,100 it. We seem to have shook an out of 188 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:45,700 the free-throw, shooting issues in the three-point shooting 189 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:48,600 issues. This giving up runs in losses, 190 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,400 is something that we've got to figure out. 191 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,300 Whether it's just calling all the time outs, whether it's, you 192 00:09:55,308 --> 00:09:59,900 know, being even quicker to make adjustments, I don't know. 193 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:01,700 And obviously, the team is working on it too, but those 194 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:05,300 Those these runs are crippling the ability to win these games 195 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:06,800 because in the second half they played great. 196 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,300 The second half they played really well. 197 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:10,200 The only thing that I would say that I was kind of looking at 198 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,800 that. I do think, you know, they were 199 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,500 winning coming the back on the heels of, you know, Trace 200 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:18,800 Jackson Davis and Calum Hood, should be no. 201 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,700 But it is, you know, it just Bears. 202 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:25,300 Note that at the 8 Minute, Mark in the eight minutes to go in 203 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:28,000 the game. Race Thompson made a layup after 204 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,500 that. Nobody else scored excited for 205 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:33,300 trace and Jalen Hood. Zaffino And they are your two 206 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:34,700 best players. You're going to lean on them and 207 00:10:34,708 --> 00:10:38,900 a comeback but again it comes back to like somebody else needs 208 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,900 to step up at some point and help these guys out. 209 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,600 You can't have eight nine minutes stretches where two 210 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,200 people are, the only people scoring the bass while other 211 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,900 people are doing things. But it's like, other people have 212 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:53,600 to help out in those stretches. And if even one of those guys 213 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,900 other guys on the team had scored here or there, maybe you 214 00:10:56,900 --> 00:11:01,300 do turn that loss into a victory but it's it's again, it's 215 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:04,300 another One of these games we're going to look at this season 216 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:08,800 and, you know, in a weird way with Purdue slowly coming back 217 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,100 to the pack, there's a world where had you won this game? 218 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:14,600 It's like, well, if you went out, you coat. 219 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,600 When the Big Ten, like it's there, it's probably going to be 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,500 harder now, and you're now falling into that morass of the 221 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:23,900 third fourth place, tiebreak, you know, 18 tiebreak to figure 222 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:27,200 out who gets the spot in the Big Ten tournament and it's just, 223 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:30,200 you look at this as a couple of games this year where these runs 224 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,400 have crippled the team and it's like this is all Most turning 225 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,900 into like, man, what could have been a really good season? 226 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:38,700 Your kind of it's not the sky's not falling Is Not a Bad season 227 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:41,500 but it's like you're you're digging yourself these holes 228 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:43,700 that you don't need to do. And you've got to find a way to 229 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,600 get out of it. You're kind of missing some 230 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,600 opportunities to really further where you are as a team. 231 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Yeah, I think it's not look at it a little bit, the opposite. 232 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:56,500 Okay. I come at at it and essentially 233 00:11:56,500 --> 00:12:01,400 end up with the same conclusion, which is that you're gonna 234 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,900 expect, I think you have to expect these sorts of things to 235 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:07,100 happen. If you are going to go out and 236 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:12,100 lean on Trace Jackson Davis to put up a 20 and 15 every single 237 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,300 time. It is an unsustainable 238 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:17,300 trajectory. And you know, I mean, Trace, I 239 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:20,900 think is really grown into a leadership role. 240 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,100 He was asked to afterwards after the Northwestern game, and he 241 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:26,100 basically put the blame on himself as like, I wasn't ready 242 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:30,500 to play and it's like, you know, that's, he's, I'm shocked. 243 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:32,400 He's been admirable, I'm shocked. 244 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,900 He's been ready to play and half of these games, because of how 245 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,700 much he's being asked to do and that has to change the same 246 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:43,800 thing with Jalen Hurd chafee. No, I mean, you know, he is 247 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,300 playing 38, 39 minutes, he has to, because we're getting 248 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:53,300 nothing out of any bench depth with the guards, especially in 249 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:59,000 Road games and even in some home games, and I just don't know how 250 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,600 sustainable that's going to be other people have to step up. 251 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,300 I mean ultimately you know, there's a bunch of different 252 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:08,300 things you can look at from the Northwestern game and say well 253 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:10,800 if this had gone differently or that had gone differently maybe 254 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,100 India Indiana wins the game. I don't really believe in doing 255 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:16,200 that because as we've talked about on this podcast before 256 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,800 games are a Continuum. You can't like take one basket 257 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,000 away and put another Basket in and suddenly have the rest of 258 00:13:23,008 --> 00:13:27,500 the the outcome be the same, but I do believe in this idea that 259 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,200 You know, you have to look at the performances and you have to 260 00:13:31,208 --> 00:13:35,500 say to yourself, you know, how is it that Indiana can only rely 261 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:40,500 on two players to regularly contribute and then just hope 262 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:44,700 that somebody else shows up and and why is it that those players 263 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:47,700 who Indiana needs to show up struggle so much in Road 264 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:50,700 situations? You know, it's it's not just 265 00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:55,100 that Miller cop didn't hit the shots that were open to him in 266 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:57,900 the game. It was also that he was We've 267 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:00,300 lost on defense for large, portions of the game because 268 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:02,100 Northwestern was putting him in a really tough spot. 269 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:06,000 And look, I thought, you know, tomorrow, Bates is another one, 270 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,800 where it's like, how is it that Bates has been? 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:14,000 So incapable of doing anything of note, in terms of offense on 272 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,800 the road and especially in a game like that, where he's got a 273 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,100 lot of athletic advantages. A lot of it comes down to mental 274 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:23,800 preparedness, and Malik renew honestly falls into the same 275 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,500 category where he's had a much better last. 276 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,100 Last six weeks than he had a month of December. 277 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,200 But the reality is the last couple of games. 278 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,500 He's been really having trouble staying on the floor, you know, 279 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:40,400 his foul situation and just kind of this positions, he's a lot of 280 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,900 stuff to get put into, haven't really worked out. 281 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,600 Now, you're going to get that with younger players and at 282 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,500 least not so much with cop but certainly with Bates and renew, 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,400 it's a big ask for them to go out and perform all the time, 284 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:58,100 but the broader point is that Indiana does not have Enough 285 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:02,200 consistency out of people other than trace and general Hood fee. 286 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,900 Know when one of those guys has an on-off half, not even an off 287 00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:12,700 game, it almost sinks I you from the get-go and that is 288 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:16,800 concerning, you know it's really what puts a it's why you know 289 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:19,600 normally you look at a team like Indiana the way that they 290 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 performed over the last four to six weeks and you say to 291 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,900 yourself that's a team that's trending in the right direction. 292 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:27,600 They're winning a lot of games but then you can also look Look 293 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,300 at it and say one thing goes wrong with this team. 294 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:33,600 In terms of those two guys performing and you kind of have 295 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,700 to throw the game out. Like it's not really 296 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:37,600 sustainable. Well that's going to happen. 297 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,900 Like the tournament is all about. 298 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:40,400 We're going to take out your best player. 299 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:42,900 What else can you do at this point? 300 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,700 Indiana doesn't seem to have a good answer to that because 301 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:51,200 people just do not appear to be able to step up three-point 302 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,800 shooting just disappears, so quickly because our guys are not 303 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,500 ready to shoot when they get the ball. 304 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:59,400 A lot of the things that That you could be using to try to 305 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,700 spread things out and take some of the burden off just aren't 306 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:05,400 happening and that does concern. Me it finally came home to roost 307 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,900 essentially in the Northwestern game. 308 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Yeah, I'm in the other way to look at this trend is, you know 309 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,700 this this run that Indiana has been on of going, you know, 310 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:18,100 five, six seven, oh eight of eight, you know eight and two in 311 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:21,100 a 10 game span could also just be viewed as like art you had 312 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:24,900 traced Jackson Davis just playing at an unbelievably Elite 313 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:27,500 level. That he's is not sustainable for 314 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,100 20 more, you know, 15 more games and you have jail hitch. 315 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:33,100 Be no coming into himself but also he's also been, you know, 316 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,900 had up and down but playing really well. 317 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:36,500 And that's that's the concerning thing too. 318 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:38,800 Is that Or right. When you get to the tournament, 319 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,400 one of these guys is going to be taken out, what I'm truly going 320 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,700 to have foul trouble in the game, and it's like, we don't 321 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,600 have the ability to deal with either of them being out and 322 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,400 it's not even, you know, I don't pick on guys here but it's not 323 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,400 even like that, you know, tomorrow Bates doesn't score 17 324 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,600 like he did against Michigan State. 325 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,700 It's just can you come in and just give some serviceable 326 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:02,200 minutes like make smart plays on authentic, not actively, take 327 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,600 things away. And that's the problem is, you 328 00:17:03,608 --> 00:17:06,200 know, he played 17 minutes when we can renew played eleven, 329 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:10,200 they're not These are all intertwined that the reason that 330 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,599 jail has your feet. Oh, and Trace Jackson. 331 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,099 Davis are basically playing 39 and 40 minutes of game. 332 00:17:14,099 --> 00:17:16,700 Is that what's it doesn't have anybody else to go to? 333 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Like even though tomorrow Bates isn't, you know, even he's, he's 334 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,000 scoring 0 in that game. Had a zero offensive rating was 335 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,099 like, he made a lot of mistakes and he took it out of the 336 00:17:25,099 --> 00:17:26,700 offense, he's having trouble on defense. 337 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:29,600 And yeah, he's still young, but it's like he's almost a junior, 338 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,700 like he's almost done with the sophomore year, like, we're 339 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:35,200 getting pretty close to the cement is getting drier and 340 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,900 harder with, you know, tomorrow Bates. 341 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:41,300 It's like You should at least be able to come in and be a Annette 342 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:44,500 - Annette you know neutral and not be a negative. 343 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:49,000 So that's also causing problems is that you know Geronimo played 344 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,100 four minutes and always coming back from you know a little bit 345 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:52,900 of an injury we wouldn't know because we don't get to know 346 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:57,400 that information but you know it's like that's the other 347 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,000 issue. Is this not even the guys aren't 348 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,700 coming in and like you know he's not hitting 3 or 4 from 3. 349 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:03,700 It's like you're just you're coming in and being such a 350 00:18:03,708 --> 00:18:06,400 Negative that your everything has to end. 351 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,600 Not only You know, is jail,'. No and Trace Jackson Davis 352 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,200 playing 40 minutes. They're doing everything. 353 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,300 Like it's not. Like they're getting you LeBron 354 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:16,700 where they can take a couple plays off. 355 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:21,300 It's like everything. Those are 40 hard minutes every 356 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,900 single game and I am getting concerned that I just don't 357 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,000 think it's sustainable. It's definitely doesn't feel 358 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,900 like it's going to be sustainable when you get into 359 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:32,400 Big Ten Tournament where you're playing you know 23 games and 360 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,000 two or three days and the NCAA tournament where you're playing 361 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,100 two games in a weekend so hopefully Two or three times in 362 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:40,300 a row. I mean, ya know, and and not to 363 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:46,000 pick on Bates, but he has scored 11 points total in the last five 364 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,100 games that Indiana has played. I mean, you know, 0 against 365 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:52,800 Northwestern 0, against Michigan, 6 against Rutgers 366 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,200 three against Purdue to against Maryland. 367 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,200 And if you want to throw the previous two in, he scored seven 368 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,900 against Ohio State and 0 against Minnesota. 369 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,500 Yes. Oh yeah. 370 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:04,800 I just added up he scored 18 since he scored is that he 371 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,700 scored 17 against Michigan State in all the games, That he scored 372 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:10,200 18 points and keep in mind, the two games before Michigan State, 373 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,700 he scored zero points against Illinois and zero points against 374 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:17,100 Wisconsin. Like this is, I think everybody 375 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:20,300 has this image in their head that the tomorrow Bates that we 376 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:22,900 saw against Michigan, state is The Tomorrow baits that exists. 377 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:25,800 But in reality, it's the tomorrow Bates we saw against 378 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,900 Northwestern who isn't performing on offense and is 379 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:32,100 getting consistently lost on defense and look. 380 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:35,400 I've talked about this a lot with some friends of mine on 381 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,300 text threads and so forth. And and realistically, this is 382 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:41,600 what happens when you lose your starting point guard. 383 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:45,200 You know, that because because you shouldn't be having to rely 384 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 on to more Bates, four minutes at this point because he's just 385 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,700 not able to contribute consistently tray. 386 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:52,900 Galloway should be in the tomorrow Bates role, where he's 387 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:56,500 coming off, the bench, spelling, Xavier Johnson, and Jalen, Hurd 388 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,100 Jaffe. No, in equal measure. 389 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:01,800 And then when you need to bring in Bates for a few minutes, to 390 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,100 maybe hoist up a couple of Threes, you know, maybe play 391 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:08,400 some replacement level defense. That's fine in Ed, you had to 392 00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:12,000 you know, you've been pressed into a situation where despite 393 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,200 scoring? So few points you've played him 394 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:20,300 2222, 2710 1725, 19, 9, 17, and 17 minutes. 395 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:24,600 Like, this is your primary sub in the. 396 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,700 Backcourt Off the Bench and Indiana. 397 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,900 Doesn't have anybody else that they can really put in? 398 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:33,900 I've been Fielding a lot of people ask me like, we're just 399 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,300 simply Place EJ gun. Why is it? 400 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:37,100 CJ gutting gun? Getting more minutes. 401 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 And you know what I'll say to that is two things. 402 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,900 A you know, Woodson's drop some breadcrumbs about his 403 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:47,000 substitution approaches. And one of the things that he 404 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,500 noted, like we asked, why didn't we see Caleb Banks against 405 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,900 Michigan and and Woodson confirmed something that I had 406 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:58,500 assumed which is that Woodson doesn't want to put his freshman 407 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:02,000 in high pressure, high leverage situations on the road because 408 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,100 he doesn't think that they're ready to handle those. 409 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,500 And he's probably, right and you and I have talked a lot about 410 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:10,800 how You don't want to ruin a freshman psyche by throwing them 411 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,800 into the fire and making them perform and having them fail. 412 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,300 You know, with the problem with CJ gun is both that like he's 413 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:21,900 not ready to contribute in those spots. 414 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:25,300 But it's also how ineffective he's been offensively. 415 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:28,700 Like, as bad as Bates was in that stretch that I just laid 416 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:32,500 out on the season. Bates is still, you know, got an 417 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:37,100 offensive rating of 112 essentially Siege a gun in a 418 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,100 Juror number of minutes than Christian Lander. 419 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:41,800 Had last year, has a worse offensive rating than Christian 420 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,700 Lander had in Lander. If you'll recall like, when he 421 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:49,000 was in the game, people were like, wow, like what, what is 422 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,400 the thought process behind? Even playing him because he's 423 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,200 unable to contribute anything. Now you know gun, I understand 424 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,500 people are excited about playing him but he just he's had 425 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:02,100 opportunities and has done nothing offensively and you 426 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:06,100 cannot put in a player who's a zero threat offensively in Big 427 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,900 Ten play especially. A freshman who probably doesn't 428 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:12,000 understand what you're supposed to do on defense systematically 429 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,200 as far as the teams concerned. So as much as I'd love to see, 430 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,700 you know someone else get a shot because Banks has struggled so 431 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,900 much with performance. The reality is there's really 432 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:26,600 nobody else right now and Woodson's having to make do 433 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,400 with, what is very, uh, nydia situation from a backcourt 434 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,400 perspective. And this is 100% agree with all 435 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,500 of this and this is, I feel like we're pairing each other. 436 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:38,900 This is Thing that, you know, this is kind of what happens 437 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:42,100 when you have years and years of kind of piss-poor recruiting and 438 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:46,600 neglect on the the overall roster is, you know, Christian 439 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Lander was a perfect pull. I was thinking of him as well, 440 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,000 you know, last year, a lot of talking, let's put a pin, put 441 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,500 him in a 5-star it's like, well, just goes on the bench, doesn't 442 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:54,900 mean he's good. It's like, he's probably on the 443 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:57,400 bench for a reason. And yeah, sometimes, guys come 444 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,800 off the bench, you're like, wow, I'd love to see him play more, 445 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,000 but every time Lander came in, it didn't look great. 446 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,100 And now, you look at his numbers at Western Kentucky, and it's 447 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,000 like kind of confirmed what we all knew. 448 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:11,800 And I'm not, I'm not pissing on CJ gun or, you know, Banks, but 449 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,800 it it I have trusted Woodson that he sees those things in 450 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,600 practice and that they could do things. 451 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:20,300 He's shown with Jaylin Hood, Ruffino and Malik were new. 452 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,600 If you're a freshman and you have the skills to play, he's 453 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,400 going to play. So it's not like, I'm not going 454 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,300 to play freshman, so he's not going to play freshman who 455 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,100 aren't ready? And I just think this is, you 456 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:31,800 know, the backend of our bench, we just don't have guys who can 457 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,300 come in and solve this and so it's got to be those middle 458 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,000 level guys. Like, that's where we're at and 459 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:40,700 And even, you know, for those we're getting really close to 460 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:44,000 whenever you know the we don't know, but it seems like we're 461 00:23:44,008 --> 00:23:47,300 getting close to the Xavier Johnson coming back. 462 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:51,000 I would urge everyone to also just take a deep breath on that 463 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,400 because who knows what? I hope he's 100%. 464 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,300 I hope he comes back at, you know, full for strength but 465 00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:02,600 normally, I see that in the NBA, you don't normally see that in 466 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,300 college. It's just isn't something that 467 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:07,400 you normally see where a guy, you see kind of what race Doing 468 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,400 a guy comes back and it's like man, he's like 60% or 70% of 469 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,100 what he what he was and it's like in if anything I'm more 470 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,700 impressed. That race is kind of playing 471 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:19,700 through it and I'm just want everyone to take a pump the 472 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:22,800 brakes, if Xavier comes in the next couple games, like all 473 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,900 right, you know, and then he doesn't look 100%. 474 00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:27,500 It's like the guys coming off of a major injury, he probably 475 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,300 should be done for the year. He's gutting it through to come 476 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:33,200 back. Well, yeah, and it's it's going 477 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,000 to be really interesting. There's a really neat piece. 478 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:42,400 Peace that you can find if you search the 1980 season, it was 479 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,600 an excerpt from a book that Terry Hutchins and Tom Brew. 480 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,500 Wrote about the missing banners, is the name of the book and 481 00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:53,200 there's an excerpt on one of the SI or on the SI site, for 482 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,900 Indiana from that particular subchapter where they're talking 483 00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:58,500 about the 80 team. And one of the things about the 484 00:24:58,508 --> 00:25:01,900 1980 team that people have forgotten is that Mike Woodson 485 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:06,200 was the star of that team. Had a freshman Isaiah Thomas on 486 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,000 that team. You had buh. 487 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,700 Carter is a senior Woodson right around the same time that Xavier 488 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:15,600 Johnson. Got injured in the 79-80. 489 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,100 Season suffered a herniated disc in his back, he was out for six 490 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,100 weeks. He had surgery, he comes back 491 00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:26,600 way before he's ready in the middle of February and he guts 492 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200 it out. I mean Woodson played incredibly 493 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800 he actually won Big Ten player of the year that year. 494 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:35,800 I'm Gabe slate or something, six of the 18, he won Big Ten Player 495 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,000 of the Year playing. A third of the conference 496 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,300 season. It's one of the most patently 497 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:43,100 absurd things that a player is accomplished and because it 498 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:44,300 wasn't like, they just gave it to him. 499 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:47,700 Like he was that valuable for Indiana in that stretch. 500 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:51,400 But one of the interesting things about that that chapter 501 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,400 is that it talks about how Woodson came back to early. 502 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,600 Like he just physically, he wasn't able to practice, it was 503 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,900 one of those where he would just go out and play in the games and 504 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:04,100 he really wasn't able to do anything else and you know, 505 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:07,000 night to some degree, like regretted bringing him back. 506 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Too early because he just wasn't physically there. 507 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,600 I have to think that the way that Mike Woodson is handling, 508 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,400 the situation would save your Johnson. 509 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,900 He's got that in the back of his head. 510 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,600 I mean there's literally it's almost a perfect analog. 511 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,900 The injuries happened at almost the same time of year. 512 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,800 You know Xavier has been out slightly longer now than Woodson 513 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,700 was but I don't think that that's accidental. 514 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,200 All that said I think you hit the nail on the head like the 515 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,600 idea that you're going to just insert Johnson back in the 516 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,000 lineup and get like 30 35 minutes. 517 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:41,200 It's is kind of a pipe dream, can you get 10 to 15 really 518 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,800 good? Operational minutes out of him. 519 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,100 Maybe you know, what is this conditioning going to look like? 520 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,300 How Rusty's you going to be so much of his game was like not 521 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,700 just the physical aggressiveness that he brought to the table in 522 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:55,700 the passing but also the ability to drive and shoot and and hit 523 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:59,100 shots at a pretty efficient clip, you know, that's hard to 524 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,800 get back when you haven't played competitively in two months. 525 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,200 And so to some degree, it's like, I don't know that we'll 526 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,000 ever see what this Team would have fully looked like, and 527 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,800 that's a shame, but even within that, I think, looking at what 528 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,100 Indiana's got to do moving forward in terms of trying to 529 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:22,100 figure out how to play this group, they've got right now is 530 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,800 about all that they can count on in terms of what they're going 531 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,900 to be able to perform with. And this is where like Trace 532 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:30,300 Jackson, Davis is performing at superhuman levels. 533 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:32,700 Jalen who Jaffe no, has performed at levels that have 534 00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,300 taken him from not even being mentioned in the NBA draft 535 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:38,800 conversation to Lee, he's gotten to get will not Lee's first 536 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,900 round pick. I've seen him starting to get 537 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:42,700 mocked as a lottery pick. I mean, that's how much his 538 00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,700 stock has risen and rightfully. So, you know, I mean, as we've 539 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:50,900 talked about, like this is, this is a rare physical Talent, a 66 540 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,900 point guard who can like essentially create we're 541 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,600 watching Jail, who Jaffe know, right now out of necessity, 542 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,000 create baskets out of thin air and like Romeo Langford, kind of 543 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,500 did that, but that's about the last player we've seen be able 544 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:07,900 to do that. It's Swallow. 545 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,900 Yes, the full perimeter defensive stop. 546 00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:14,800 Yes, and so. So this is where I would, you 547 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,100 know, on the one hand, I think this team has got a lot of fight 548 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:22,000 in them and for all the people that were jumping on them at 549 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,300 halftime of that Northwestern game and like it's the same old 550 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:26,400 Indiana. They suck on the road one thing. 551 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,100 I'd like, you all to note. Everybody sucks on the road. 552 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:33,100 This year, there was a stat. I saw Scott the other day, the 553 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:36,300 top four teams in the Big East like Marquette Providence, 554 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Xavier and I forget who the fourth team is Creighton. 555 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,500 I think they are 32 and 0 at home in conference play. 556 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,100 None of them have lost at home in conference play. 557 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,900 That is that's nuts that. And what that tells you look 558 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:52,000 what happened to Purdue last night, Purdue? 559 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,600 I mean, you might as well just go ahead and like pick out the 560 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:01,200 burial plot on their season. You know, gladly after that game 561 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 because what that did I mean, people lose you know, when 562 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,500 Purdue lost at Indiana. It was like well Indiana's, a 563 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:09,000 good team. I think Marilyn is actually a 564 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,800 good team, but to get annihilated on the road like 565 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,700 that. Hey, it'll cause a lot of people 566 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:16,800 to stop taking Purdue as seriously as they have. 567 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,100 But be, I think it illustrates how hard it is for teams to 568 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,300 perform on the road. It's not just Indiana. 569 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,400 It's pretty much everybody in college basketball. 570 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,700 Nobody's able to win away from home. 571 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:33,400 How that translates into neutral Court environments where you 572 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,500 can't lean on the officials as a crutch. 573 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:36,900 I mean, everybody been Indiana's. 574 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,500 To do that, we're like you can build your defense around, how 575 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,000 somebody's going to call your game at home, but a lot of those 576 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,500 teams are going to lose that Advantage. 577 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,100 I mean if Indiana were to play Northwestern in the Big Ten 578 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,900 Tournament, I don't think that they lose for a third time 579 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,400 because I don't think the game gets refereed the same way. 580 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,800 If Purdue plays Maryland on a neutral Court, you know, I don't 581 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,000 know necessarily that it would get called the way they got 582 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 called in College Park. So but I also think it's a 583 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,600 mental thing as much as anything else. 584 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200 And so, I look at this, I you team and I say yes. 585 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,200 They're struggling on the road. So it was everybody else and the 586 00:30:11,208 --> 00:30:13,500 fact that they came back and almost won that game. 587 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 I'm far happier about that than I would have been if they had 588 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,400 just allowed themselves to get obliterated down the stretch, 589 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,700 like, Purdue did. And so I so I'm not too panicked 590 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,300 about it, but I do think that this Indiana team, they have to 591 00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:32,200 try to figure out how to get people to contribute more 592 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,200 consistently because regardless of where they're playing home or 593 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,700 away, that will ultimately be This team's undoing is one of 594 00:30:38,708 --> 00:30:42,700 those days where cochinos going, you know, to for 13 from the 595 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,200 field. And Trace Jackson Davis is 596 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,100 handcuffed by the opposition's defense. 597 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,400 Well, like you say, we don't play the tournaments not played 598 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,500 on the road, so that's good. As we leave the Northwestern 599 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,500 game and just talking about Road games, I just, I want to 600 00:30:55,508 --> 00:30:58,400 mention, you know, it's College, I'm not offended. 601 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,200 I'm not clutching my pearls but you know, I've always been 602 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,800 bugged. It's just a bit of a tangent. 603 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,700 You know this this goes into kind of the eye you Or the now 604 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:11,900 complex or the coldest back, you know, whenever you know, there's 605 00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:14,300 two curse words from the IU student section and immediately, 606 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:16,100 you should be Chuck crab. That's Jeremy, grab my picking 607 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,500 on them, but they immediately come out. 608 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,100 It's like, you know, just a reminder that you can, you know, 609 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,900 technical foul could be called of a home crowd for language. 610 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,300 Whatever. It's like, I always tell my dad 611 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,200 would tell you whoever in the game with, like, the first time, 612 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,100 that's called to be the first time I see, I've never seen that 613 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,200 called. And yet, we're at the 614 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,100 Northwestern, you know, the game in Northwestern just non-stop. 615 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:37,000 Fuck you Miller just fuck you Miller. 616 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,200 From the crowd to the point, huh? 617 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,300 Moans like joking, like you man. It's not a fan of Miller here. 618 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:44,200 It's like I mean you can hear it through the TV just fuck you 619 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,700 Miller over and over again. Again, they're college kids, I'm 620 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:51,300 not clutching my pearls, I don't care college, kids can do that, 621 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800 but it does. I would just say to the IU brass 622 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000 like, can we like, not a technical was called, like 623 00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,900 wasn't called, but it just sit down I'm gonna tangent to 624 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:06,600 another tangent. We do need to stop having 625 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,500 nightmares. And Mike Woodson bench 626 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,900 technicals called on this team, three that and then Xavier 627 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,300 Johnson that check called on him. 628 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,100 Yep. When he was injured. 629 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,700 Like, so there's there's three assistant coaches like that's 630 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,400 and it's something I noticed when you were at the Rutgers 631 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,800 game like Rosemont is like, way the hell out there, like, he is 632 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,900 way past woods and he's on the court. 633 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,500 It's like, I appreciate the enthusiasm. 634 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,100 I appreciate you guys getting pissed. 635 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,700 Like don't like well. Okay, hold on. 636 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:36,000 I'm gonna push back on that a little bit because I will say 637 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,300 this, the The bench technicals that have been called. 638 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:42,800 First of all, I don't think I've seen a bench technical that 639 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,700 wasn't like obvious and egregious called on anybody else 640 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:47,900 this year. Except I you and in all of the 641 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:52,100 cases officials, have gone searching for something to call 642 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,500 a technical and Indiana's bench for happened with the Xavier 643 00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,800 Johnson thing where, you know, there was no reason for the 644 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,900 official even be over there. There was one, I think it was 645 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,400 maybe it might have been Iowa. Might have been somebody else 646 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,600 where they went into the bench and that might have been the 647 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,900 Saviour. This one actually now that I'm 648 00:33:07,908 --> 00:33:10,400 thinking about, they went into the bench and started arguing 649 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,400 with people. The one against Northwestern. 650 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,800 They're not even yelling at Sirota or scrote. 651 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,100 Oh, on the call. He should have just left it 652 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:18,700 alone. The Baseline official. 653 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:21,200 Blew the call. There was no reason for that 654 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Tech to be called now, you're right. 655 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:26,300 You know, there's clearly a Target on the backs of the 656 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:28,900 Indiana coaching staff. So, you've got to take that into 657 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:33,100 consideration, well, but see the problem is a like I don't think 658 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,900 that you should have to take it into consideration when it's 659 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,900 it's so out of character with how the rest of the games are 660 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:44,300 being called and be look, I've seen that bench get upset about 661 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,000 a variety of things that nothing happened. 662 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 It's the inconsistency, with which things are being applied 663 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,300 from game to game. That's the thing that gets me. 664 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400 It's, you know, again, as someone pointed out, Fran 665 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,200 mccaffery walked across the middle court, walked into the 666 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,900 Indiana huddle and they didn't call a technical foul on him, a 667 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:05,700 coach out of his box on the opposite side of the floor, but 668 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:09,300 they're going to call. Bench technical during a play. 669 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,500 That is clearly a missed call. We're not even yelling at the 670 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,100 official that signals the technical. 671 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,100 I mean, give me a break when, and the woods and Tech was also. 672 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:21,000 Like, it's like, he just gently, like, tap water. 673 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,100 The refs are was like, like, you can't touch the rep. 674 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,400 It's like, what back? Well, okay, first a camp like 675 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,500 this. So minimum it is, it's a, it's 676 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:30,400 minimal and be, and look what's in deserve the tech. 677 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,000 But when if you watch the replay, he what he's reacting to 678 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,400 is scrote. Oh, turns away and And sticks 679 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,800 his arm out almost like he's like trying to like visibly. 680 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,300 Like I'm going to ignore you. I'm going to stick my arm out 681 00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:46,000 like that. I mean, you next time you're in 682 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,100 an argument with somebody and they turn around and stick their 683 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:51,400 arm out in front of you, see what you see, what you 684 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,199 involuntarily do physically. Well, that's why Booboo we 685 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,400 pushed off with the Army realize. 686 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,900 Yeah. Sorry, the way we do things like 687 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,500 this is how we get Guys open Surah, is this not being called 688 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,100 tonight. I mean, look, ultimately, the 689 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,300 officiate I was talking with with someone that's, there's 690 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:08,300 definitely a Target on Indiana. This and well, here's the thing 691 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,800 there is but it's also I think it's actually worse than that. 692 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:15,900 I think that this is probably the worst. 693 00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:19,700 I've seen Big Ten officiating, overall in years and look, We 694 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:23,200 complain about it on and off sometimes that's playful rather 695 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,200 than serious. Sometimes it's more serious. 696 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,700 But I've watched probably 75 to 80%, of all the games that have 697 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:33,000 been played in the Big Ten this year, not just Indiana games, 698 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,200 like, all of them. One of the things I think, you 699 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,900 know, when people criticize the refs, everybody assumes that it 700 00:35:37,908 --> 00:35:41,500 comes from a bike solely, a position of particle 701 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,200 Partisanship like my team's getting screwed it out at all. 702 00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,700 I'll be honest. Like, I have, you know, I get 703 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:52,000 upset when when I you gets bad calls against them but there's 704 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,800 plenty of calls that are unfavorable for. 705 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,800 I you that I'm like, that's actually a legitimate call. 706 00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:01,700 But when I watch this conference refereeing, take place across 707 00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,900 the board last night's game against Maryland. 708 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,000 Purdue, you know, you know, watch we do, we'll watch 709 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,100 Michigan, Michigan State. There was a Michigan, Michigan 710 00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:12,500 State earlier on this. Year there was a double 711 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:16,400 technical called and it was the same crew that had had trouble 712 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,300 in the Iowa. Indiana game that had happened, 713 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:19,600 like the day. Previously. 714 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,100 This is not something that's isolated Indiana. 715 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,000 And if you go to like the college basketball subreddit, 716 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,900 which if you like college basketball actually go. 717 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:30,200 It's one of the few nice corners of the internet where you can, 718 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,200 like, talk college basketball with people that aren't like 719 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,400 insane. That's the all the Big Ten 720 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,600 schools except for Rutgers in Northwestern talk about how bad 721 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,400 the officiating is. Is and given the murderball 722 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,300 style that both of those teams play. 723 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:47,400 Of course, they want it officiated badly because they 724 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,900 tend to benefit from these things. 725 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:54,900 So all that said, you know, the best way I you can handle things 726 00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,800 right now is just get out of conference play. 727 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:03,000 Get into the NCAA tournament because you'll I think that the 728 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,400 way the NCAA tournament is generally refereed will favor 729 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,500 Indiana a lot more because there will be some actual protection 730 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,600 given to trace Jackson Davis. And Jalen Hood. 731 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,500 Fino, as opposed to what is essentially allowed to happen 732 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,900 right now, which is you can do whatever we want. 733 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:21,400 With those guys physically without any repercussions, 734 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:27,800 totally agreed. The frustrating thing is by 735 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,300 getting down so much to Northwestern you lose an 736 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,800 opportunity to win that game, and it does feel like our 737 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,800 opportunity to get a three seed in the NCAA tournament is just 738 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,300 slipping through our fingers and we're kind of stuck in that 45 739 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,800 category. Because I as I look at it like 740 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,800 to go to your earlier point, you know Road games really hard, 741 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,100 Michigan State and Purdue or also really hard Road games 742 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,000 above and beyond that. So you know you're hoping to go 743 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,100 3 and 2 and your last five and you know where that sits you in 744 00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,200 Big Ten Tournament, who knows? Well but you know, look, here's 745 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,100 the thing. I don't know, I don't think 746 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:07,700 there's a huge difference between going one and one in the 747 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:12,200 Big Ten Tournament, where you win a 512 or six, In game and 748 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,100 then lose in the second round versus going one-on-one. 749 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:19,200 Where you're a double by and you lose in the second round. 750 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,400 I only, there's a big difference between that in terms of seating 751 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,400 like, because everybody is so equal, like, 1 through 10 in the 752 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,200 Big Ten in terms of rankings. It's not going to harm your your 753 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:30,400 your overall resume. But I mean the loss to 754 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,700 Northwestern didn't harm. I use resume. 755 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,200 They lost by exactly the points that they were predicted to lose 756 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,700 but they lost out to the prediction. 757 00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:38,000 Was they were going to lose by one. 758 00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:39,700 They do. They were not a statistical 759 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,100 outlier losing at 'The Western is a tier 1 loss. 760 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,300 It doesn't hurt at all. It would have been helpful but 761 00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:47,500 act look. But here's the thing. 762 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,000 And, you know, we had a bunch of Bracketology this week on on the 763 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,700 Crimson cast account. If you want to go back and 764 00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:55,700 listen to it, I look real coordinate, this stuff. 765 00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,100 Literally at all, no, no. That should give you as good of 766 00:38:58,107 --> 00:39:00,000 a sense as any like, we essentially recorded the same 767 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,500 type of podcast, see ya. But anyway, when you look at 768 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:07,500 Indiana, you know, they're favored by at least five and a 769 00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:11,000 half points via the computers in each of their last three home 770 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,200 games in. Noise, Iowa. 771 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,200 Michigan. Two of those teams are NCAA 772 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,300 tournament teams and if they can win those games and then, even 773 00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:21,800 if they lose, both the road games, neither of those games 774 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,800 are going to hurt you. I don't think seeding, wise, 775 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,300 there's going to be a tremendous amount of difference for Indiana 776 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:31,700 between finishing, the regular season, 21 and 10, and finishing 777 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:36,100 the regular season, like 20 and 9 or 22 and 9. 778 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,000 And a lot of it depends on what happens around you. 779 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 Because, you know, you're Already starting to see the 780 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Iowa, State's and the Kansas State start to lose games, and 781 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,600 those are teams you're in direct competition with, for seeding. 782 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,200 You've seen Xavier struggle, a little bit, with some things in 783 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,600 terms of, you know, they lost on the road at Marquette, who 784 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,700 knows? I will say this. 785 00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:03,200 I think whether Indiana is a three, four, five, six or even 786 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,900 seven seed in the NCAA tournament, there's not much 787 00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,900 difference. Because at the end of the day, 788 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,200 two things, a there is Because of the parity in college 789 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,900 basketball this year, there are liable to be multiple upsets of 790 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:20,900 top four seeds within the first, two rounds of the NCAA 791 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,000 tournament. You want to avoid being one of 792 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000 those, obviously. But if you look at the group of 793 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,700 teams that even as the two seeds, they have huge holes in 794 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,300 some aspect of what they do. You know playing Tennessee, it's 795 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,700 like, well, okay. That's a very heavy defensive 796 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:37,400 team but they struggle to score on offense. 797 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,100 That's not a team that I would be upset if Indiana had to face 798 00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,700 off against in the second round, or The or in the, you know, as a 799 00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:47,000 36 or even as a 27. So I'm, you know, it's great, 800 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,600 Prestige wise to say, hey, I you got a three seed, I'm not that 801 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,500 concerned about it because I think ultimately the experience 802 00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:58,900 and what Indiana's going to do is going to be less dictated by 803 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,700 the seating and farm were dictated by the matchups. 804 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,200 Because the matchups as we saw last year. 805 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,600 And I think we're going to see you again this year, going to be 806 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,500 everything IU has to draw a particular type of team. 807 00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:12,700 Just like anybody else does and That's really, what matters, 808 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:14,600 more than what the number is, by that team. 809 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,400 I agree with you to a point. I think sliding agree with you 810 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200 all the way to 6. I think sliding 27 would be 811 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,300 rough because then you are fundamentally playing a 2 seed 812 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:27,600 in the second round. There's a chance that they 813 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,500 losing two seats and started to lose more and more, but when you 814 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:32,900 look at who's on the two seed line now you know, Arizona is 815 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,700 one of those teams and I mean I think Indiana, I think I think a 816 00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:40,200 full-strength Indiana now has a much better shot against 817 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,900 Arizona. I mean because The, you know, 818 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,300 keep in mind when they played Arizona the first time, they 819 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:49,800 didn't have Jalen Hood Ruffino and they, they really were in a 820 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200 mode at that point where they were first starting to really 821 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,700 question what they were, and what they could do. 822 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:58,600 And that that funk lasted, basically until the Penn State 823 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,600 game, it lasted for like a solid month. 824 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,200 I'm not to their first of all, they wouldn't draw Arizona 825 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,200 because they've already played them, they would keep that until 826 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,800 a sweet 16 matchup, but the other teams in that mix, like, I 827 00:42:08,808 --> 00:42:11,400 think Texas is beatable. I think Tennessee's beatable. 828 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,200 Baylor, I'm a little bit concerned about, but Baylor can 829 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,600 be stymied, you're not going to draw Kansas because you've 830 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,400 already played them. You're not going to draw Arizona 831 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400 in the second round because you've already played them and 832 00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,400 Gonzaga. If they were to sneak in as like 833 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,900 a two or three. I'd feel pretty good about 834 00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:30,000 playing that team so I'm with you but I also think that 835 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,900 realistically outside of look Scott. 836 00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:37,100 Honestly the only thing I don't want to see Indiana matchup 837 00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:40,900 against in the tournament is Alabama like yeah because 838 00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:45,800 Alabama Um, I feel like is they're so athletic that it 839 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,700 would just present a whole different set of problems for 840 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,000 what I use used to playing. But even Alabama, I think would 841 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,300 be beatable for this IU team, if they played really good defense. 842 00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:56,500 As we saw Tennessee, do this past weekend when they knock 843 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,400 them off. I think that there's there's 844 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,300 very few teams in those top, three or four seed lines this 845 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,800 year, that terrify me the way that you we've seen teams 846 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,400 terrify Us in the past and the ones that do frankly by Kansas 847 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,500 Indiana's played already. Probably wouldn't face them 848 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:15,300 until the elite eight. Yeah, I hear you. 849 00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:18,000 I just, I would rather. I would rather stay at least to 850 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 a 6. I think that's 63 is a better 851 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,700 spot. I would also say something that 852 00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:24,900 I also would throw in Houston as a team that kind of worries me 853 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:26,100 from the athletic point of view. Yeah. 854 00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,800 The thing that the thing that I got from one thing that was 855 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,900 interesting, which podcast would Joe from 131 Sports? 856 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:34,300 Yesterday was just be kind of kicked around this idea. 857 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:36,800 That, you know, it might actually behoove. 858 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,000 Again, Indiana plays to win the games but dropping to a 5-line, 859 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400 might actually Ali, not be bad for Indiana because of your the 860 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,600 for you're going to get, basically, if you're the last 861 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,100 four seed, you're getting the last protected pod and that and 862 00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,300 at that point all, you know, Gonzaga can make everyone's 863 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,300 ready. Pick the every picked everything 864 00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,000 over, and you're kind of just stuck with whatever whereas if 865 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,600 you're a five seed you you might get a little more preference and 866 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,300 where you go and you might be able to go to Orlando or Albany 867 00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,200 or someplace. That might, that might work a 868 00:44:06,207 --> 00:44:08,400 little bit better for for fans to go to. 869 00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:10,500 I mean, it's going to be the same for the forces. 870 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,500 It is for the fives. Because, yeah, because gently 871 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,200 know, basically, the for is the way that ends up working out. 872 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,800 That's where, like, at this point, I've done enough 873 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,000 brackets. This cement this, the last 874 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,200 month, or so to say that right now, we're Indiana's at like, 875 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,600 for the first time. Things worked out in the last 876 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,800 bracket where I actuate Indiana in Columbus. 877 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,000 They were the last like geographically preferable first 878 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,800 second round matchup, but the rest of the time I've had their 879 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,600 had Indiana in Albany Albany or Do which, of course, as we know, 880 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,800 Florida is basically just Southern Indiana extended. 881 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,000 So, I'd rather have Orlando, then floor than Albany, but I'd 882 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,900 rather have Columbus, then both of them. 883 00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:56,800 And so that's where I think it's going to be interesting to watch 884 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,000 how things transpire look, ultimately went and wrote just 885 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,300 real quick. I do think that is going to be 886 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:07,400 probably a bigger Factor than even the seed line we get 887 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,500 because Indiana fans travel and we saw it with the game in 888 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,500 Dayton last year. Was obviously a pro Indiana 889 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,100 crowd, you know, you saw it. You you see it in these among 890 00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:20,800 you and I at the in the in Vegas for the Arizona game or just 891 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:26,000 shocked we're under any metrics. Arizona has at a better program 892 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,800 in Indiana over the last 25 years and that was 75%. 893 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,100 Indiana fans at that crowd. I mean, Indiana fans travel, 894 00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:39,200 they're hungry to travel and so if the location is anything 895 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,800 easily, travel a bull like outside of Sacramento. 896 00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:46,400 Sacramento, I think that that's going to be a bigger importance 897 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,700 to Indiana if we can pull a Columbus, or an Orlando, or some 898 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:51,700 place is easy to get to. I can see that becoming 899 00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:55,900 basically a home court neutral, site game for Indiana, which is 900 00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:57,400 going to be huge. Because, as we talked about 901 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,500 earlier, we played better with the fans behind us than we do in 902 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,900 a, you know, Road environment, destroy reminder that you know, 903 00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:08,400 Indiana does not seem to track where they play versus how they 904 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,000 do to advance. You know, when they were a You 905 00:46:12,008 --> 00:46:18,300 didn't join, they made the sweet 16 when they were a one seed in 906 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,800 Dayton, they made the sweet 16 when they were a five or four 907 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,400 seed, in San Diego, we lost the first round. 908 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,600 So, I was there with my dad but when they were but they went to 909 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,400 Portland, not this last time. But back in 2012 that well and 910 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,600 made the sweet 16. I mean it look I think it's as 911 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,200 much as it's easy to get caught up in where what really matters 912 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,300 is the matchups and it's like you know a lot of people I was 913 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:43,200 talking with Buddy today. They're like they're scared 914 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,800 about the 512 matchup and I'm like, you know, the last time 915 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000 Indiana went to the Sweet 16. They were a 5 seed, they drew 916 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,500 Chattanooga and beat them by 25. Now in that same tournament, 917 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,900 Purdue was a five seed and lost to Little Rock in double 918 00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:00,400 overtime. That was so long ago that Chris 919 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,700 beard was coaching Arkansas Little Rock. 920 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,200 So, it just goes to show. It's really more about the 921 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,700 matchups, and I'd rather be a five seed or a six seed playing 922 00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,200 the right team in the first Ground with the right match up 923 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,500 in the second round. Then be a four-seater. 924 00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:17,800 Three seed, and draw the wrong team in the first round. 925 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:20,100 Well, wild question here. Yeah. 926 00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:25,200 Just looking at looking at the sights I think I'm gonna go on a 927 00:47:25,207 --> 00:47:28,200 limb and all this some of us depend on flights but a lot of 928 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,800 these are drivable. I'm thinking that outside of us 929 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,000 going to Sacramento, I might be going I might be trying to go to 930 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,800 almost any other of those sites. Breaking news Birmingham. 931 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,500 Good. No you're you're Scott's going 932 00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,800 to travel, that's the breaking news, I travel all the time. 933 00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,500 So it's up there at birmingham's drivable, Cleo Columbus's 934 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:51,000 arrival. Like said, Orlando is easy to 935 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,200 get to Denver, super easy to get to, from Indy birmingham's, you 936 00:47:54,207 --> 00:47:57,300 know, albany's might be a little bit tough, but Des Moines is, is 937 00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:01,600 definitely travel a bowl. What are the ones my missing? 938 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:04,200 Greensboro? That's, that's dry. 939 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,100 That's a bit of a drive, but that's drivable I think. 940 00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:11,700 Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I mean that there's no. 941 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:13,400 Other ones I can think of right now. 942 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,600 They're all pretty. They're all reasonable 943 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,800 distances. If you assume that outside of 944 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,200 Sacramento or Albany but Albany isn't that bad either of you? 945 00:48:20,207 --> 00:48:23,000 Just get to the right. I mean, it's less time to fly to 946 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,700 Albany than it is to fly to Denver. 947 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,600 Yeah. So, you know, so I don't know. 948 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,100 It's ya know, it's an interesting spread of sites. 949 00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,100 It's it's actually really interesting this year if you 950 00:48:33,107 --> 00:48:36,100 take a broader, Bracketology view, like Houston has nowhere 951 00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:39,800 to go their closest first second round location is Birmingham, 952 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,700 you know? And there s close. 953 00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:44,500 Cyst is like Denver, like neither of the maybe Des Moines, 954 00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,600 not none of those are very actually closed. 955 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,000 So they do have we have a lot of places that are good to go. 956 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,900 We have a lot of places that are close to us or, you know, air 957 00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:55,700 quotes quotes to. It's the one thing that. 958 00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,200 I mean, if things were to break just right in Indiana, were to 959 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,500 somehow grab either a three or four seed in the South that 960 00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:07,000 would route into Louisville. And that that's like, that's 961 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,100 really what you want. If you can get past the first 962 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:13,000 and second round, that's where you have, I think What's Wild is 963 00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,000 all the other regions like Louisville would be amazing. 964 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,500 Kansas City is not bad. Oh, isn't that? 965 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:24,000 That's where we lost in a 93 to Kansas, right? 966 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:30,300 No, no, I don't believe that's right, but I'd have to go back 967 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,900 and double-check but I don't think that that you may be 968 00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:34,800 right, but I'm not totally sure that's right. 969 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,300 So Kansas City is not bad, you know, New York. 970 00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:40,400 That's kind of become Indiana east for a while and then the 971 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000 one that seems tough as Vegas. But as you and I lose you like 972 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,700 we were just in Vegas in December and it was a lot of IU 973 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:50,100 fans there. So it's the Regionals also break 974 00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:53,000 nicely for Indiana as well. It was st. 975 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,900 Louis. It wasn't Kansas City in 1993 976 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,700 talking about the game that's coming up tomorrow. 977 00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:03,300 Indiana taking on Illinois. So Illinois comes in and they've 978 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:07,000 had a weird season, you know, they it's funny as much as 979 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,800 Indiana had. You know that great stretch 980 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,000 where they won, eight out of ten. 981 00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,600 They what they 18 out of 10 are still technically in that 982 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,000 stretch Illinois had a stretch, where they won, seven out of 983 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000 eight. The one that they lost was the 984 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,500 80-65 home loss that they suffered at the hands of Indiana 985 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,700 and it's bizarre because you know you look at the rest of 986 00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:31,800 their their Big Ten schedule they've struggled on the road 987 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,300 some but not completely let they want it Nebraska by 26. 988 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,600 They wanted Minnesota by 28 they want it Wisconsin by 10 they 989 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,600 lost at Iowa by 2. They lost in Northwestern by 13, 990 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,000 they lost at Maryland by 5 and then they'll all jump in and 991 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,200 roll my eyes and look at other team schedules where it's like, 992 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,800 oh they played Wisconsin and Nebraska and Iowa State, and 993 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,100 they still have Minnesota and Northwestern or Minnesota, Ohio, 994 00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,400 State's, and everyone, everyone gets all these bad teams we 995 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,300 don't it out. Sorry anyway, Illinois is right 996 00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:04,900 now, as I mentioned there, they're either a four or a five 997 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:09,300 point Underdog, according to the computers in this game and 998 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,400 they're kind of the flip side of Indiana in Your Indiana's 999 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:20,300 offense is better than than Illinois's defense, just barely 1000 00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:23,000 and Indiana's. Defense is better than 1001 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,500 Illinois's offense just barely they both shoot the ball very 1002 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,600 well. Illinois, turns the ball over. 1003 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,400 More Illinois, does a better job of rebounding it on the 1004 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,500 offensive glass and Indiana and Illinois shoots the three much 1005 00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,200 worse than Indiana does. So this is going to be a really 1006 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,300 interesting game because this Illinois team is just, they're 1007 00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:43,200 very Mercurial. They Essentially suffered the 1008 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600 same fate at Penn State that Indiana suffered when they 1009 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,200 played them, you know, month and a half ago or a month ago. 1010 00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:51,600 I don't know what to expect out of this Illinois. 1011 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,600 Team they have nobody on the team shooting above 37 percent 1012 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,100 from three and they are essentially kind of in this 1013 00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,700 weird spot where they're relying. 1014 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:04,500 So heavily on Coleman Hawkins and Terrence Shannon to do so 1015 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:09,600 many things that it's that that's not a great spread as far 1016 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,300 as a team is concerned. I think. 1017 00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,500 This is a game that Indiana, I think you're hoping that they 1018 00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:18,000 come out upset at the way that things went against 1019 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,900 Northwestern. But also that they remember, 1020 00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:25,000 this is a team that they beat pretty handily back in in in 1021 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,200 early January mid-January. It's one of those games again 1022 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,600 where I think they you're probably not going to see 1023 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,800 Indiana run out and jump to a huge lead and to some degree. 1024 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,800 I don't think you want that like Indiana almost seems like it 1025 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,200 does better when it plays even for the first 10 minutes and 1026 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,400 then, Ouches things out over the second part of the first half, 1027 00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,500 but this is certainly a game where I think if you're going to 1028 00:52:48,508 --> 00:52:51,600 see the role players coming off the bench and contributing, this 1029 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,100 is a game where it has to happen. 1030 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:54,900 We got to give Trace tracks and Davis in jail hood. 1031 00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:58,000 You know. A little bit of a break and the 1032 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,200 more that you can get points from the group that we talked 1033 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,000 about from from Trey Galloway, who had a subpar game when he 1034 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,400 played at Northwestern to Tamar Bates to Malik renew the attack. 1035 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,300 That group of players has to Contribute. 1036 00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:15,600 Something I'll be curious, if we get Xavier Johnson in this game. 1037 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,800 I don't think we're going to, I think we'll probably have to 1038 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,000 wait till the Iowa game to get him back, but if he does come 1039 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,700 back and even play a little bit in this game, I'll be fascinated 1040 00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:26,400 to see what kind of a spark that might provide Indiana as well. 1041 00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:29,600 Yeah, I was kind of thinking this might be the Xavier back 1042 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,700 game but hearing you talk about the woods and thing is it's dead 1043 00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:35,500 on and I could see him holding it back. 1044 00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:38,200 I would come at this a little bit from a different angle that 1045 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,600 I do kind of hope that we can get out to a nice, you know. 1046 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,800 No jump to a lead and then I would love to see Woodson just 1047 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,200 do his best to get as much rest for Trace Jackson. 1048 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,300 Davis in general, the Cioppino as possible because like you 1049 00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:53,400 said role players always do better at home. 1050 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,400 Our role players are in a similar spot and I would if you 1051 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600 can get up, I like 9 or 10 points and then it's just like 1052 00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,300 sit one of those guys and it's like, roll the dice Malik renew, 1053 00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:03,800 like do something. It just like, if it works great, 1054 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,400 if it doesn't bring it back in and then play the tough, get you 1055 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:10,200 go from there. But I would, to me, obviously, 1056 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,600 we need to win the rest of our home. 1057 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,300 Games, but a secondary win would be. 1058 00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:18,500 If you could do it with both, Trace, Jalen or one of the two, 1059 00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:22,900 or both of them, playing 34 minutes, if you can get them, 1060 00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:25,200 you know, if you can shave five or six minutes off here or 1061 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,200 there, I think that's a secondary win. 1062 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000 That is almost as important as winning the home games. 1063 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,700 But I would say that we're at a point where we do really need to 1064 00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,800 finish off with home wins. So it's kind of like, however, 1065 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,600 you get it done, you've got to get it done and when your last 1066 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,600 three home games, but I do think getting those. 1067 00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:43,400 As from rest would be, would be helpful in. 1068 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,200 This is where the role players, you could step up and do that. 1069 00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:49,300 That'd be great that if you know, if jail and his fee no 1070 00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:52,300 sits down, it be great if tomorrow Bates and come in and 1071 00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,600 give you seven or eight quality minute, score seven or eight 1072 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,100 points. And at least keep the lead or 1073 00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:59,600 the game at the exact same level as when Jalen left. 1074 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,500 That allows Woodson to feel comfortable, giving Jalen, an 1075 00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:04,600 extra two minutes in the bench, where you maybe he wouldn't have 1076 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,600 before. Yeah, I totally agree. 1077 00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:12,500 I think ultimately the big thing for me Side of everything you 1078 00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:16,900 just said is can Indiana get their defense, you know, to a 1079 00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:21,200 point where it's you know, as efficient as it was against 1080 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,700 Illinois. The first time they held Ellen 1081 00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:26,600 oi under a point per possession in that game, which was was 1082 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,800 pretty unusual. And a, from an adjusted margin 1083 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,000 was one of the better defensive games of the Season. 1084 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,400 You know, offensively, I'd love to see Indiana. 1085 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,900 Get a little more untracked especially in terms of getting 1086 00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:42,300 more offensive rebounds. That is Ali something that 1087 00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:45,200 they've struggled with the last two games against Michigan and 1088 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,600 Northwestern for different reasons. 1089 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:53,400 I mean, Michigan, certainly capitalized on the fact that 1090 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,100 they have hundred Dickinson and a bunch of really athletic guys. 1091 00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:57,700 And there's Western capitalize on the fact that they were 1092 00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,700 allowed to essentially commit felonious assault in the post on 1093 00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:05,400 every shot attempt. So you know, getting those two 1094 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,200 things to me like you know ratcheting up the defensive 1095 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,600 pressure to make it difficult for Illinois to hit shots 1096 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,900 without fouling. And Indiana doing, at least 1097 00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:16,200 marginally better on the offensive glass. 1098 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,900 I think those are going to be two things that will, you know, 1099 00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:22,100 help Indiana to get to the margin of victory, that we'd 1100 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,800 like them to see in this game. It's a really important game for 1101 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,100 both teams. If Indiana wins this game, they, 1102 00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:32,800 you know, they'll be 10 and 6 in conference with some interesting 1103 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,500 results potentially that they'll be seeing elsewhere Maryland as 1104 00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:39,600 to travel to Nebraska this weekend Northwestern hosts Iowa. 1105 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,600 I'm fascinated to see what happens in that. 1106 00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:46,200 One, you know, either way, because Iowa, if they win, that 1107 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,700 game would be tied with Indiana. And if Northwestern wins that 1108 00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,900 game, they'd be a full game up on Indiana. 1109 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,800 So, there's a lot of intrigue Illinois. 1110 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,100 Like, if they lose that game, they're back to eight and seven 1111 00:56:57,700 --> 00:57:00,100 so winning this. This next game really is 1112 00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:02,400 Paramount for them. In terms of trying to ratchet 1113 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,500 their their, their seating opportunity. 1114 00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:07,700 I think both Indiana. Illinois are safely in the field 1115 00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:10,200 at this point, but Illinois, really needs to pick up a road 1116 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,400 win of value. To try to get themselves back 1117 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,300 into a better seating conversation in the currently. 1118 00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:20,100 Got could you imagine if I had told you in like January that, 1119 00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:22,300 you know, there's a, there's a world where Northwestern wins a 1120 00:57:22,308 --> 00:57:23,600 big 10. That's wild. 1121 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,600 I know. But you know what? 1122 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,400 It's exactly what the big Ten's always wanted. 1123 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,900 They wanted to reward a team that has very little actual 1124 00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:32,200 talent but just fouls on every possession. 1125 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,300 So it actually would be some. I would believe it from that 1126 00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,400 perspective, I just wouldn't have believed it with North. 1127 00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:37,800 I would have believed it with Rutgers. 1128 00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:40,200 I might not have believed it with Northwestern Buddhist 1129 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,600 didn't know, we had that they had it in them. 1130 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:43,400 Mmmmm so good for them. And what's great for them, that 1131 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,000 the Big Ten tournament in Chicago because they're 1132 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,400 Chicago's Big Ten team as they continue to tell us all the 1133 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,400 time. Even though that that's that 1134 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,100 crowd, sounded 70% Indiana fans even though as bad as Indiana's 1135 00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:57,000 been historically in the Big Ten Tournament, the one team that's 1136 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,100 played in every single one of them. 1137 00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:00,300 That's got a worst record is Northwestern. 1138 00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:04,700 So yeah, anyway, that'll wrap it up for us. 1139 00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:06,200 Yep. Good to talk with you. 1140 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,900 As always Scott and thanks to all you folks for tuning in as 1141 00:58:10,900 --> 00:58:13,300 we talked about Talk about Indiana, basketball, probably be 1142 00:58:13,308 --> 00:58:15,100 back on Sunday. Talk about what happened in the 1143 00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:18,700 Illinois game and set the upcoming week which is a big one 1144 00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:21,600 for Indiana. As after this Illinois game. 1145 00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:24,300 I got to travel to East Lansing on Tuesday to take on the 1146 00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:26,900 Spartans before traveling to Mackey Arena. 1147 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,100 Next Saturday, the 25th as they play their last Road, Big Ten 1148 00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:34,600 game of the season against the Purdue Boilermakers, my thanks 1149 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000 to all you folks for tuning in my, thanks to Scotts. 1150 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,100 Dog for barking at the last second, there wouldn't be a 1151 00:58:41,107 --> 00:58:44,900 crimson After that waffles, my thanks don't feel the Peril and 1152 00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:47,900 to our friends across the entire back home network, be sure to 1153 00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:52,200 tune into the women's college basketball show with Amanda 1154 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,700 Foster as the, the women, as we mentioned, play pro, do this 1155 00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:58,200 weekend. It's a tune into that and have a 1156 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,000 safe weekend. Hopefully, you get down here and 1157 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,900 are able to watch. I you beat the Illini, we'll be 1158 00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:04,500 back. We'll catch you folks on the 1159 00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,500 flip side, bring back the Bison. So on everybody.