1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,000 You're listening to the Back Home network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:22,480 Field apparel. How you doing folks? 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,080 Back at it again here on Crimson Cast, I'm Galen Clavio got Scott 4 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:31,680 Caulfield with us and it is the 17th of September a Sunday as we 5 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,760 are here to recap Indiana's loss this past weekend to the 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,560 Louisville Cardinals up in Lucas Oil Stadium by the square of 21 7 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,880 to 14. We're going to talk about the 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,360 game. We're going to talk about 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,400 personnel or talk about some things we liked and didn't like 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,910 and we'll see where the conversation goes. 11 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:51,670 Scott, good to see you. How you doing today? 12 00:00:52,030 --> 00:00:53,150 I'm doing great, man. How you doing? 13 00:00:53,150 --> 00:00:54,950 Good to see you. Happy Sunday and start to cool 14 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:55,710 off. We're getting there. 15 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:57,870 You're getting there. I'm. 16 00:00:57,910 --> 00:01:00,670 I'm leaving where I want to be and you're getting to where you 17 00:01:00,670 --> 00:01:03,150 want to be. So I the yeah, the cool. 18 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:07,590 It's I I we had a little party yesterday on on our deck with 19 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:11,630 some folks over to watch the game and we actually had to move 20 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:15,870 inside because we got attacked by a squadron of bees that would 21 00:01:15,870 --> 00:01:18,070 not leave us alone. Which was kind of a shame 22 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:20,610 because I was looking forward to watching the game outside. 23 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,130 But that's a great example of why, you know like the changing 24 00:01:25,130 --> 00:01:27,170 seasons and like being outside in general. 25 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:29,930 I think you're kind of highly overrated in and of themselves. 26 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:31,810 I don't know if the bees have any idea of getting getting 27 00:01:31,810 --> 00:01:34,530 cooler, but I'm going to go and blame that on them because I've 28 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:37,970 sat outside on the deck most of the last month and they haven't 29 00:01:37,970 --> 00:01:40,650 come and attacked us so. I do have to say this the the 30 00:01:40,650 --> 00:01:43,170 Venn diagram of the amount of time I talk about the weather 31 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:45,650 versus the amount we talked to start the podcast is like way 32 00:01:45,690 --> 00:01:46,490 out of kilter. I know. 33 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:48,730 Well I I talk to you all the time. 34 00:01:48,730 --> 00:01:52,010 We never never yeah we this is a crutch we need to get off 35 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:54,250 because I think people think we're way more into the weather 36 00:01:54,250 --> 00:01:55,650 than we are. It's a good it's actually it's a 37 00:01:55,650 --> 00:01:57,450 great point. Well it's good though we're you 38 00:01:57,450 --> 00:01:59,810 know we're we're throwing some subterfuge up so people don't 39 00:01:59,810 --> 00:02:01,850 know where we're coming from. But yeah no I think Scott and I 40 00:02:01,850 --> 00:02:03,490 have ever talked about the weather other than on the 41 00:02:03,490 --> 00:02:07,570 podcast but we always come back. I just, I think honestly it's a 42 00:02:07,570 --> 00:02:10,490 distraction mechanism because it's almost always during 43 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:12,410 football season that we talk about the weather. 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,880 So I don't think it's us and I don't think the weather is to 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,440 blame. I think it's actually I U 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,680 football. So we'll get to that. 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,360 But first of all just a reminder folks that we are brought to you 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,120 by home field apparel, your place to go for the finest in 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,640 college fashions, the softest fabrics, the the coolest 50 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:31,200 designs. 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They're going to the graduate in 63 00:03:05,610 --> 00:03:08,530 if you want to go to Ann Arbor on in like 5 days in September 64 00:03:08,530 --> 00:03:11,850 22nd and then October 20th, they will be at the Bloomington 65 00:03:11,850 --> 00:03:15,610 Graduate from 4:00 to 8:00 on October 20th and 7:00 AM to 66 00:03:15,610 --> 00:03:20,650 12:00 PM to noon as we call it on October 21st, 7:00 AM. 67 00:03:20,650 --> 00:03:23,290 Man Connor's getting up early and maybe they'll do like a 68 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:26,410 bacon shirt, Like a bacon and eggs, you know, special shirt. 69 00:03:26,570 --> 00:03:29,210 I think this is where you need interns. 70 00:03:29,490 --> 00:03:30,370 Right. This is this. 71 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:34,770 You have a 7:00 AM merch shop opening you it. 72 00:03:34,770 --> 00:03:38,410 That's like, hey, intern, this is this is your time to shine 73 00:03:38,410 --> 00:03:41,490 Intern, right. Yeah. 74 00:03:41,490 --> 00:03:44,450 You know, this is it's not it's not all just kind of, you know, 75 00:03:44,450 --> 00:03:46,890 sitting there at 3:00 in the afternoon and then people walk 76 00:03:46,890 --> 00:03:48,890 in and, you know, pay you money for shirts. 77 00:03:48,890 --> 00:03:51,450 You got to get up with this the crack of dawn there. 78 00:03:51,450 --> 00:03:53,730 But now that'd be great. They've been down I think once 79 00:03:53,730 --> 00:03:56,520 before for a little pop up at the Graduate. 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,360 If you haven't been to the Graduate, it is at Grant, not 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Grant at Lincoln and Kirkwood and that'll be a great time to 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,280 go at 4:00 to 8:00 on that Friday. 83 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,880 I think it's for Friday leading in. 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,920 I mean the streets will still be closed. 85 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Kirkwood is pedestrian traffic only for the most part until 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,360 October 31st, So head down there. 87 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,880 Check out the home field apparel shop in the Graduate on 88 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,950 Homecoming weekend both before and both Friday and before the 89 00:04:25,950 --> 00:04:28,510 game it sounds like. Anyway, Scott, let's go ahead 90 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:32,910 and dive into this Indiana loses to Louisville 21 to 14. 91 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:36,390 God, there's a lot to unpack with this king. 92 00:04:36,670 --> 00:04:41,310 And again, I remember when we started doing our initial 93 00:04:41,550 --> 00:04:45,750 preview podcasts for I U football, we talked about how, 94 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:50,310 you know, a lot of the the talk around I U and the way that 95 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:54,070 people discuss I U you it's like a Rorschach test. 96 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:56,670 You can kind of read into it whatever you want to. 97 00:04:56,670 --> 00:04:59,310 And we were talking about that with the offseason and with some 98 00:04:59,310 --> 00:05:01,830 of the changes that had been made where some people would 99 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:05,350 interpret them if they were, you know, pro Tom Allen. 100 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:08,710 And and you know, really believed in his tenure that all 101 00:05:08,710 --> 00:05:10,910 these things were, you know, showing that there was a renewed 102 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:13,830 commitment to the the the program and the team and the 103 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:15,950 things were turning around. And the people who felt the 104 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:18,790 opposite would just say, well, this is more of the same and 105 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:21,640 it's not going to work out. I feel like this Louisville, 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,680 Indiana game is going to be a lot of the same kind of talk 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:30,720 because on the one hand, Indiana played horribly for 30 minutes, 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,800 like some of the worst football that I've seen them play in 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,240 terms of just, you know, not making plays when it mattered 110 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,000 and letting the other team make plays. 111 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,920 Then on the flip side, Indiana made a great comeback in the 112 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,640 second-half, one that any I U fan would be proud of. 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,800 They got themselves back in the game. 114 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,840 They did it through some trickeration. 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 They did it through good solid play. 116 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,640 They had a couple of big plays themselves and and really looked 117 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,680 like a team that belonged on the field with what it appeared to 118 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,320 be, an overwhelmingly more athletic team that they were 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,560 playing against in the first half. 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Then you have the ending offensive sequence which just 121 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,240 kind of erased all of the other 28 minutes or so of goodwill or 122 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,280 you know that have been generated in that second-half. 123 00:06:15,690 --> 00:06:17,290 And that's really what a lot of people, I think have been 124 00:06:17,290 --> 00:06:19,330 focusing on since the game ended. 125 00:06:19,730 --> 00:06:22,290 A lot of positives and a lot of negatives to take out of this 126 00:06:22,290 --> 00:06:23,410 one. Scott, where do you want to 127 00:06:23,410 --> 00:06:26,290 begin and? Then you also forgot, after that 128 00:06:26,290 --> 00:06:29,610 there was the, you know, the the discussion I want to get to 129 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:30,650 later. We're going to put a pin in 130 00:06:30,650 --> 00:06:34,090 this, but the the the game kind of ends with a whimper because 131 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:36,130 we don't have any timeouts to stop things. 132 00:06:36,130 --> 00:06:37,970 We have to kind of let it go, but let's put a pin in that. 133 00:06:37,970 --> 00:06:42,450 I want to come back to timeouts. My I'm going to leave this to 134 00:06:42,450 --> 00:06:45,390 the like. The thing that I was taking 135 00:06:45,390 --> 00:06:49,230 notes on during the game is just how you know, for those who play 136 00:06:49,230 --> 00:06:51,750 poker, it's not always having the best hand. 137 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:54,350 It's also like the stack is also how much money you have is a 138 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:56,870 big, you know, big part of it. So if you if you're playing 139 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:59,150 against somebody who has you know a lot more money than you, 140 00:06:59,430 --> 00:07:01,830 they can just go in on a bunch of hands and put you in really 141 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:03,750 tough situations. And I was thinking like. 142 00:07:04,030 --> 00:07:07,670 This unfortunately, is like a situation I U Football gets 143 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:11,270 itself in way too often where they have these in my mind or 144 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:13,910 like these are really must drives for the offense and the 145 00:07:13,910 --> 00:07:15,750 defense. But they're happening like in 146 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:18,150 the second quarter or early in the third quarter, Like they're 147 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:19,870 happening really early in the game. 148 00:07:19,870 --> 00:07:23,550 Like I've marked, you know, after Louisville goes up 14 to 149 00:07:23,550 --> 00:07:26,510 nothing. I was like we are next time we 150 00:07:26,510 --> 00:07:29,070 had the ball. Like this is really a must drive 151 00:07:29,070 --> 00:07:32,420 for us to do something. They ended up with third and 26 152 00:07:32,420 --> 00:07:34,540 and didn't do anything. And I guess I was wrong because 153 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:37,060 they still had a chance to get back in the game. 154 00:07:37,060 --> 00:07:40,420 But the rest of the third quarter, it felt like we were 155 00:07:40,420 --> 00:07:42,580 just in these, you know, the defense, we got a hold here. 156 00:07:42,580 --> 00:07:45,860 The offense has to do something. And I I think that just puts a 157 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:48,860 stress on the team. And it's it's bothersome that in 158 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:52,100 these games where you know, Louisville is not Michigan, Penn 159 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:55,860 State or Ohio State, it feels like too often in these games 160 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:58,380 against similar matched opponents, it's like we're put 161 00:07:58,380 --> 00:08:01,790 short stacked. Really early in the game and it 162 00:08:01,790 --> 00:08:04,070 feels like we can't have anything else go wrong. 163 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:08,790 And then when you know like the the low snap to Jackson during 164 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:11,150 that drive that I'm talking about kind of killed that drive 165 00:08:11,190 --> 00:08:13,110 and it. It sucks but it's like and it's 166 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:15,590 one mistake. So it's like people can make one 167 00:08:15,590 --> 00:08:17,870 mistake. The trouble is when you've 168 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:20,670 pushed it to this point where like every drive is now really a 169 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:24,590 high leverage Dr. you don't have the ability to make mistakes and 170 00:08:24,590 --> 00:08:27,870 still be in the game yet we know Indiana's going to make mistakes 171 00:08:27,870 --> 00:08:30,910 so it's kind of not it's more maybe a little more like you 172 00:08:30,910 --> 00:08:33,789 know high level than this game. But it felt like that's was one 173 00:08:33,789 --> 00:08:36,630 of the issues with this game is you get to a point where you're 174 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:40,750 just back against the wall for so much of the game that you 175 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:43,070 know again that 4th and. Phone call wasn't awesome, but 176 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:47,830 it's like that's kind of a symptom of having like pressure 177 00:08:47,830 --> 00:08:50,350 on you for 48 minutes when Louisville kind of doesn't. 178 00:08:50,350 --> 00:08:52,870 So yeah, it's high level take on the game, no. 179 00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:55,350 And I think it's it's an interesting one because in 180 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:58,710 addition to what you just described, Indiana has a 181 00:08:58,710 --> 00:09:03,710 tendency to they'll get right up to the precipice and we've seen 182 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:06,430 this over and over under Allen. They'll get, they'll come back, 183 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:09,110 they'll get right up to the precipice of being able to 184 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:12,540 completely square the game or even take control of the game. 185 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:17,020 And then they're almost like a spent force at that point. 186 00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:20,620 You know they they can't push it over the heat and you know you 187 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:22,260 think about it like Indiana came back. 188 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:26,900 They they get the touchdown on the the drive that's immediately 189 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:29,860 succeeded the onside kick in this game and then they get 190 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:34,060 another touchdown and you know the all the momentum is in their 191 00:09:34,060 --> 00:09:37,070 favor. And then essentially you know 192 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:40,030 Indiana then allows an 8 play drive which was granted only 20 193 00:09:40,030 --> 00:09:42,030 yards. But it's like man you get a if 194 00:09:42,030 --> 00:09:44,230 you could even can just buckle down and get a three and out 195 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:47,470 there you really feel like maybe the momentum does ride. 196 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:50,590 But as often happens, Indiana spends a lot of time digging 197 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:54,110 itself out of holes, digging itself out of its mistakes. 198 00:09:54,430 --> 00:09:57,470 And then by the time they get to the point where they need to get 199 00:09:57,470 --> 00:10:00,100 a push, they can't quite get there. 200 00:10:00,140 --> 00:10:03,580 And I, it's kind of honestly, watching this game in a lot of 201 00:10:03,580 --> 00:10:07,060 ways, reminded me of many of the games I U played against Purdue 202 00:10:07,220 --> 00:10:10,500 when Braun was coaching there. We know where none of those 203 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:14,660 games, except for I think one of them has been blowouts. 204 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:18,860 But with the exception of the game up in West Lafayette in 205 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:24,090 2019, which almost went the way I just described, Indiana has 206 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:27,010 always struggled to get over the hump because adjustments get 207 00:10:27,010 --> 00:10:29,930 made on the other end and Indiana can't overcome the 208 00:10:29,930 --> 00:10:31,690 mistakes that they've made. And I think you bring up a 209 00:10:31,690 --> 00:10:33,890 really good point. I mean, this is really through 210 00:10:33,890 --> 00:10:37,690 three games now. This team, I think we've 211 00:10:37,690 --> 00:10:39,290 established the following things. 212 00:10:39,530 --> 00:10:43,330 This team does have talent on the roster, like this is not a 213 00:10:43,450 --> 00:10:47,710 bereft team of talent, and they're clearly still to some 214 00:10:47,710 --> 00:10:49,350 degree learning how to play with each other. 215 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:53,270 But this is also very much like a lot of the Allen coach teams 216 00:10:53,270 --> 00:10:57,790 that Indiana's had in that they really hurt themselves in a 217 00:10:57,790 --> 00:11:00,510 variety of ways in that that are controllable. 218 00:11:00,630 --> 00:11:04,910 And whether that is penalties at inopportune times, whether that 219 00:11:04,910 --> 00:11:08,510 is poor strategy on play calling, whether that is missed 220 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:13,570 assignments, You know, again as you said to some degree, you 221 00:11:13,570 --> 00:11:18,330 know it's you could you, you can't pick any one play or any 222 00:11:18,330 --> 00:11:22,330 one penalty and point to that and say that's why Indiana lost 223 00:11:22,330 --> 00:11:25,450 that game. But what you can do most of the 224 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:29,730 time is look at the collective like accrual of things that 225 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:33,290 Indiana does in these games and realize that, well, yeah, I 226 00:11:33,290 --> 00:11:35,930 know, you know, I can't blame this play or that play, but I 227 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:40,770 can blame in collection the 15 or 20 times that it happened in 228 00:11:40,770 --> 00:11:42,930 the course of the game. And that generally ends up being 229 00:11:42,930 --> 00:11:45,250 the difference. I mean, this is what's irritated 230 00:11:45,250 --> 00:11:50,210 me about a lot of I use games is that, you know, Indiana hasn't 231 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:54,290 been untalented, but Indiana has struggled with a coherent plan 232 00:11:54,290 --> 00:11:57,730 and the execution of that plan on on more occasions than we can 233 00:11:57,730 --> 00:12:01,210 count. And so it takes a performance 234 00:12:01,210 --> 00:12:04,170 against a team like Louisville from my perspective, which 235 00:12:04,330 --> 00:12:06,570 again, there's a lot of positives which I want to get to 236 00:12:06,570 --> 00:12:10,210 here in a second. But it it, you know, you end up 237 00:12:10,210 --> 00:12:13,290 looking at it as if it's cast in the exact same light as all of 238 00:12:13,290 --> 00:12:16,370 the other times. We've seen a similar formula to 239 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:20,130 this result in Indiana losing a winnable game against an 240 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:22,330 opponent that perhaps people didn't think they'd be able to 241 00:12:22,330 --> 00:12:24,650 compete against when the ball was kicked. 242 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:27,050 And so that's kind of my high level take on it. 243 00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:31,100 And it's just, it's frustrating, but it's frustrating in the same 244 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:34,580 way that like, you know, the utility company continuing to 245 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:37,660 bill you for something that you turned off 10 years ago is it's 246 00:12:37,660 --> 00:12:40,460 like it's frustrating and there's like literally nothing 247 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:43,140 that can be done about it, it feels like, because nothing ever 248 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:46,020 changes year after year. It's there you go. 249 00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:47,100 There's our tagline for next year. 250 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:48,860 I U Football. We're like Citizens Energy or 251 00:12:49,180 --> 00:12:51,900 like water. Alright, Do you want to go 252 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:54,420 positive and then negative or negative and then positive? 253 00:12:54,460 --> 00:12:57,620 I want to hit the positives first because positive and this. 254 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,360 I will probably say this 12 more times. 255 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,160 I will stop bringing up the Ohio State game, but this is a 256 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,040 positive. Give it up to Alan, the coaching 257 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,200 staff, the players like this shows why sometimes being 258 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,960 aggressive is really helpful. And that's what was so like. 259 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,080 Then last thing about Ohio, it's so bothersome about the Ohio 260 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,800 State game is it just seemed like they were just. 261 00:13:16,220 --> 00:13:18,940 Waiting to be put out of their misery coming out of the start 262 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:21,260 of the second-half. I mean, I mean sorry out of 263 00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:23,180 halftime. The onside kick was great. 264 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:25,140 Like that's a great call. I love it and it goose the 265 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:28,660 offense and then you have a three play drive kicked off by 266 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:32,340 like a 35 yard pass play like you're being super aggressive. 267 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:34,540 I think the team rallies around that. 268 00:13:34,780 --> 00:13:37,500 You have kind of, you know that they kind of get into this 269 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:40,260 passing offense, much more aggressive offense. 270 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,200 And just by doing a couple of plays like that, you really see 271 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,760 it kind of kick Indiana into gear and they looked like the 272 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,400 aggressive team, the team that was going for it, Louisville 273 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,080 looked like they were on their heels. 274 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,200 Even to the point that, you know, we call that, you know, 275 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,760 the play that looks similar to like the the Colts punt play 276 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,640 where it's like you have everybody on one side of the 277 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,800 field. It didn't end up doing much, but 278 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,080 I did kind of like that. I like that. 279 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 I think it really goosed the offense and got things going. 280 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,880 So in a positive note, a lot of credit to that cuz I think you 281 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,680 kind of needed something to kind of kick, you know, lack a better 282 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,240 term, kick this whole team in the ass, like hey, play the 283 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,960 football game and so a lot of kudos to that. 284 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,440 I love starting out with that. Yeah. 285 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,720 No, I agree. I think this is where what 286 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,880 happened at the end of the game is maybe not the best 287 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,890 representation I know. I U does this where they start 288 00:14:32,890 --> 00:14:35,450 getting like that they what works is kind of being 289 00:14:35,450 --> 00:14:37,650 aggressive and they get super conservative at the end. 290 00:14:37,650 --> 00:14:39,290 I was just I was trying to stay positive. 291 00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:42,130 But no, but it's it's the case. I mean what's fascinating about 292 00:14:42,130 --> 00:14:46,090 it is that you know I I think that in the second-half for the 293 00:14:46,090 --> 00:14:51,650 1st 26 minutes I U looked really good on offense. 294 00:14:51,650 --> 00:14:54,430 I mean they they, you know, if you look at the statistics, you 295 00:14:54,430 --> 00:14:58,070 know, 299 yards through the air and you know, I think 2/3 of 296 00:14:58,070 --> 00:14:59,710 that happened in the second-half. 297 00:14:59,710 --> 00:15:02,070 They didn't look great running the ball, but they figured out 298 00:15:02,070 --> 00:15:05,910 ways at key moments to try to move the ball on the ground. 299 00:15:06,110 --> 00:15:09,150 But they really did leverage the passing game effectively and 300 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:11,590 there were some clever plays that were called that were 301 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:15,670 really confusing. Louisville and I think Walt Bell 302 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:18,070 and the offensive staff deserve a lot of credit for that 303 00:15:18,070 --> 00:15:22,430 particular segment of time. And this is kind of the duality 304 00:15:22,430 --> 00:15:24,750 of I U Football. Is that on for, you know, 305 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:28,150 unfortunately. But I think realistically you 306 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:30,990 can't just hang your hat on those 27 minutes and say, see, 307 00:15:30,990 --> 00:15:34,230 we're doing what we're supposed to do because the other 33 308 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:35,910 minutes of the game just worn up the stuff. 309 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:37,910 But we're going to hold off talking about that because 310 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:39,710 that's obviously not in the positives category. 311 00:15:39,870 --> 00:15:44,030 Now, tied directly into that, Scott is another positive that 312 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:46,790 has a negative side to it, which is it appears Indiana has a 313 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:49,350 quarterback. I mean Taven Jackson. 314 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,800 I've been watching I U. Football for a long time and 315 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,400 very few players have come in and within a short period of 316 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,320 time established both the pocket presence and a general mental 317 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 approach to the game where they don't look freaked out. 318 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,840 They're not constantly looking to run. 319 00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:10,070 I mean, this was what made Michael Panic such an intriguing 320 00:16:10,070 --> 00:16:14,310 quarterback when he was here. It, to some degree, is what made 321 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:16,950 Peyton Ramsey look like he was potentially going to be the 322 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:18,910 future when he first got here. And there's been a couple of 323 00:16:18,910 --> 00:16:21,710 others like that. But you know, for a guy who 324 00:16:22,070 --> 00:16:25,710 didn't win the starting job in the offseason and barely played 325 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:30,020 at Tennessee, you know it really does feel like Indiana's found a 326 00:16:30,020 --> 00:16:34,140 bit of a gem here in that given. I mean, you could look at the 327 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:36,180 pass blocking grades, they were terrible. 328 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:40,580 I mean, Indiana pass block grade in this game was 45.4 on Pro 329 00:16:40,580 --> 00:16:43,140 Football Focus, which that ain't it folks. 330 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:49,050 And yet with that, Taven Jackson manages to complete 2434 passes 331 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:51,330 for 299 yards, get the touchdown. 332 00:16:51,570 --> 00:16:55,370 The interception was not entirely his faults, you know, 333 00:16:55,370 --> 00:16:58,010 it was something that really shared with the the receiver. 334 00:16:58,130 --> 00:17:02,770 But man, you know Taven Jackson. That's something to get excited 335 00:17:02,770 --> 00:17:04,690 about. I think for I, U, and and you 336 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:07,650 know for all the the questions about the quarterback position, 337 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:10,530 they do seem like they're going to be set there as long as they 338 00:17:10,770 --> 00:17:14,970 utilize him properly. Yes, trying to stay positive 339 00:17:14,970 --> 00:17:16,890 because like there there's a tinge of negative. 340 00:17:16,890 --> 00:17:19,609 But yes, everything you say is 100% right. 341 00:17:19,849 --> 00:17:22,530 He he looks great. I mean some of his passes are a 342 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:24,730 little bit high. That can be worked out. 343 00:17:24,730 --> 00:17:26,490 That could be adrenaline just getting used to it. 344 00:17:26,490 --> 00:17:28,810 Maybe it's not enough snaps by not being the starter to start 345 00:17:28,810 --> 00:17:31,050 the year. But you know he looks really 346 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,810 good. The other thing is I wrote this 347 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:36,090 in my notes he looks really good as a pocket passer. 348 00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:40,090 He looks doesn't look as great running a triple option which 349 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:41,650 not like. I just have to get to this point 350 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:45,810 like. I, you and I are podcasters. 351 00:17:46,090 --> 00:17:47,610 Like, I don't know more about football. 352 00:17:47,610 --> 00:17:50,730 I'm not watching practice. But like, I remember in 2021, 353 00:17:51,010 --> 00:17:53,650 after that first game at Iowa, it's like Pennix isn't ready. 354 00:17:53,650 --> 00:17:55,970 Like, how did anybody on the staff think he was ready? 355 00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:58,810 I can see he's not ready. As I'm watching this game 356 00:17:58,810 --> 00:18:01,770 yesterday, I look at this and it's like Jackson looks like a 357 00:18:01,770 --> 00:18:04,650 quarterback who can play really good in the pocket. 358 00:18:04,810 --> 00:18:07,690 He doesn't look like a guy who can run the triple option with 359 00:18:07,930 --> 00:18:09,210 Fine, not. Everybody. 360 00:18:09,570 --> 00:18:12,640 But it makes me wonder. Why were we going into this year 361 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,440 running a triple option? Why do we run so much triple 362 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,320 option against Ohio? It's like that does not look 363 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,400 like that's what he's good at, which is fine. 364 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Like I'm also not good at like driving Indy cars. 365 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,920 I don't do that on a weekend basis. 366 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,080 Like I that's where I get frustrated. 367 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,720 But no, Jackson looks really good. 368 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,040 His numbers look really good. And what I like about him is he 369 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,720 has in this respect not so much the running as Payton Ramsey, 370 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,440 but with Payton Ramsey, you know, he got a lot of, you know, 371 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,710 a lot of completions. At a short yardage but could 372 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:44,030 still hit a longer shot when needed. 373 00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:47,030 And you see what with Haven Jackson like he's 24 for 34. 374 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:48,390 Really good completion percentage. 375 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:51,510 A lot of that is kind of shorter passes but he's making those 376 00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:53,950 completions which we didn't see counter base lack do as much 377 00:18:53,950 --> 00:18:57,470 last year but he's also able to hit Jay Lucas for 30 yards when 378 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,430 need be. So no, I I agree. 379 00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:02,990 I just hope that now the staff fees like this is a guy who 380 00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:06,150 needs more time and practice running as a quarterback, not 381 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:09,430 doing, you know a triple option or being a dual threat 382 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:11,550 quarterback. Yeah, I know. 383 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:13,230 I mean all of what you said there. 384 00:19:13,230 --> 00:19:15,550 I mean I want to, I want to circle back to that a little 385 00:19:15,550 --> 00:19:18,550 bit. But it's It is fascinating 386 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:25,390 watching I U playing this kind of a game and having what 387 00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:29,430 Indiana's doing on offense be what logically they should be 388 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:31,390 doing. But having it be so 389 00:19:31,390 --> 00:19:35,390 diametrically opposed to what the coaching staff has indicated 390 00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:38,700 that they want to be doing, that's a hard thing to get my 391 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:39,980 head wrapped around. This is. 392 00:19:40,340 --> 00:19:42,060 Where like I just have to jump in. 393 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:44,740 Like this is where our season previews are always so hard. 394 00:19:44,740 --> 00:19:47,060 Cuz I feel like this happens every year where it's like you 395 00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:49,700 and I are doing our preview. We've been told we're running a 396 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:52,220 wishbone or we're running a, you know, a triple option and then 397 00:19:52,220 --> 00:19:53,460 it's like by game three it's like. 398 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:55,530 Yeah, we're not doing that because that's not what this 399 00:19:55,530 --> 00:19:57,490 team does. Like that's where the previews 400 00:19:57,490 --> 00:20:00,010 so hard because like, I feel like year after year you and I 401 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:01,530 are told one thing. It's like, hey, we're going to 402 00:20:01,530 --> 00:20:03,410 be running like we're not going to, we're never going to punt 403 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:05,330 all year and then all of a sudden we're punting on 3rd down 404 00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:07,170 every play. It's like this anyway. 405 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:08,890 This just it's but that's where we're at. 406 00:20:09,050 --> 00:20:13,610 I also positively, if you don't mind, I just like he's electric, 407 00:20:13,610 --> 00:20:16,130 like Jalen Lucas is so good. Like I know, we've been saying 408 00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:18,470 on all of these pods. You know you do with Taylor and 409 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:20,630 it's like it's true, like we just got to find wise. 410 00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:24,590 They find ways to get him the ball in space, but he is just 411 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:27,190 electric whatever he touches the ball. 412 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:30,910 Now it's true and look, I mean Lucas was such a huge part of 413 00:20:30,910 --> 00:20:33,870 the offense and you hope that that would be the case and that 414 00:20:33,870 --> 00:20:37,350 was what we were asking for. And look, I think the coaching 415 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:41,310 staff clearly did realize that he ends up with the most touches 416 00:20:41,310 --> 00:20:45,480 of any non quarterback. On I use roster 10 catches for 417 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,560 98 yards 8 carries for 29 yards which is a separate thing but 418 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 you know it's clear that for Indiana and the fact that 419 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,040 they're the offensive line is is still not good. 420 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,160 I I think I can go ahead and officially say that Scott the 421 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,000 the the grading in both passing and running is not good in the 422 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,960 yardage and running has been terrible but. 423 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:08,500 Lucas is such a great safety valve and as we talked about in 424 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:12,020 the preseason, getting him into space in the situations where 425 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,940 you're basically using the short pass as the run, that appears to 426 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:19,300 be one of the big keys to Indiana's offense being able to 427 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:22,660 do what they need to do, You know, Another positive that I'd 428 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:26,780 like to point out is that after a shaky start to things, I 429 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:30,220 thought the defense played pretty well down the stretch. 430 00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:32,460 You know, Aaron Casey had another big game. 431 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:34,980 I had two sacks, had three tackles for loss. 432 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:37,020 Those were things we talked about in the pregame podcast. 433 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:40,220 Indiana was going to have to create some havoc plays. 434 00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:43,980 You know, Louis Moore had a I had a pretty good game overall 435 00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:46,940 and and certainly made a lot of tackles for you had the most 436 00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:50,740 solo tackles on the roster and look, Noah Pierre, who's you 437 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:54,100 know, been somewhat derided, you know, in the past for some of 438 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:56,100 his play I thought was pretty good. 439 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:59,380 He came up with some key breakups of passes that 440 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:01,220 otherwise probably would have been long completions or 441 00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:03,540 touchdowns. You know, so there were there 442 00:22:03,540 --> 00:22:06,140 were individual elements with the defensive players where it 443 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:09,940 does appear that they're they're melding into a unit that knows 444 00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:11,780 what they're doing. And what was interesting I think 445 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,620 was the adaptation that was made in the second-half. 446 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:20,260 You know it Louisville looked so athletically superior to Indiana 447 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:24,660 in the first half that I think I legitimately felt like it could 448 00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:28,180 be a 40 or 45 point loss. I mean it. 449 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,900 They just look like I use defense could not keep up and. 450 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:35,450 Yet when you know after they score on that offensive or that 451 00:22:35,450 --> 00:22:39,050 onside kick, you look at what they were able to do against 452 00:22:39,050 --> 00:22:41,410 Louisville for most of the second-half. 453 00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:46,090 They force A5 play 13 yard drive, They intercept Louisville 454 00:22:46,090 --> 00:22:49,690 on a three play 8 yard drive, they force A8 play 20 yard drive 455 00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:53,050 that results in a punt and then they force A5 play 18 yard 456 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:55,010 drive. I mean, up until that drive at 457 00:22:55,010 --> 00:22:58,770 the very end of the game, they had Louisville completely under 458 00:22:58,770 --> 00:23:03,290 wraps in that second-half and. That that's really encouraging, 459 00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:07,290 both in terms of the individual play and in terms of the overall 460 00:23:07,290 --> 00:23:10,770 collective play that the defense, you know, was able to 461 00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:12,290 do. So I like that. 462 00:23:12,290 --> 00:23:15,770 I mean, the one thing you're you got to ask yourself about, and 463 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,610 it's clearly something that actually got even addressed in 464 00:23:18,610 --> 00:23:22,090 the postgame press conference, is like, why did it take 1/2 for 465 00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:24,930 Indiana to figure out how to defend Louisville schematically? 466 00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:27,810 You know, I know. I mean, clearly there is a 467 00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:30,210 difference in athleticism between the two teams, but. 468 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:33,950 Indiana looked just a bit unprepared in that first half on 469 00:23:33,950 --> 00:23:36,070 both sides of the ball, but defensively, especially for them 470 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:39,390 To put in such a good performance where they shut out 471 00:23:39,390 --> 00:23:42,310 Louisville in the second-half, it just makes you wonder why 472 00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:44,270 they couldn't have done that from the beginning. 473 00:23:44,270 --> 00:23:47,230 And again it's one of those things that goes back to the 474 00:23:47,230 --> 00:23:50,390 death by 1000 cuts model of I U. Football. 475 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:52,740 Well it's it let's staying positive. 476 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:56,100 I mean this so many times we we kind of you know get annoyed at 477 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,300 the coaching staff of IU for not making halftime adjustments 478 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,820 especially against a coach like Brahm at Purdue. 479 00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:05,460 You know, this is 1 where again, he came out aggressive with the 480 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:07,460 onside kick. The defense played better in the 481 00:24:07,460 --> 00:24:08,780 second-half. You know, this is 1 where I'd 482 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:11,300 say we we made the halftime adjustments that got us back 483 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:14,020 into the game. It's just this is kind of the 484 00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:17,460 whack, A mole problem with I U. Football is it'd be awesome if 485 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:20,620 we had the the right game plan to start the game and the 486 00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:22,860 halftime adjustments put together so you actually have a 487 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,500 coherent game plan. It's like, I feel like next week 488 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:28,340 we might start out great and then you know or against 489 00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:30,540 Maryland, you know, Akron might not be like Maryland's, like we 490 00:24:30,540 --> 00:24:32,740 might start out great and then not have the half. 491 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:34,620 It's like we either great and don't have the halftime 492 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:37,860 adjustments or we kind of don't have everything set up right. 493 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:40,620 You get down 21, nothing. It's like, oh, again, now it's 494 00:24:40,620 --> 00:24:43,580 time to kind of kick in. But from a positive note, you 495 00:24:43,580 --> 00:24:46,100 know it. If you had to grade this out, no 496 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:49,220 question Indiana came. Had the much better halftime 497 00:24:49,220 --> 00:24:54,820 adjustments than Louisville did. Yeah, I mean it's this is one of 498 00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:58,110 the things we've asked. A lot about over the course of 499 00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:00,670 time is, you know, why is it that Indiana struggles so much? 500 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:02,910 We even talked about it I think in the pregame where it's like I 501 00:25:02,910 --> 00:25:05,910 was more concerned about Indiana playing Louisville close in the 502 00:25:05,910 --> 00:25:09,550 first half. And then you know being out 503 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:11,310 adjusted going into the second-half. 504 00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:14,350 So this was a nice reversal that unfortunately had the exact same 505 00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:19,590 outcome as we're used to, you know, but like Spiderman wears, 506 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:22,390 like, yeah, Spiderman one or Spiderman two different villain, 507 00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,990 but hey, Spiderman Go wins. Indiana's first and second-half 508 00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:27,110 is pointing at each other angrily in an alley. 509 00:25:28,550 --> 00:25:31,670 Yeah. So yeah, look, this is. 510 00:25:32,150 --> 00:25:35,150 So now I guess we have to talk about the the end of the game, I 511 00:25:35,150 --> 00:25:37,270 mean. The the last. 512 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:39,390 Yeah, go ahead. Sorry, go ahead. 513 00:25:39,550 --> 00:25:40,790 You sure? Yes. 514 00:25:45,150 --> 00:25:49,590 I I look at things and I say, you know that last, the last 515 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:53,070 drive that Indiana has, it was, it was an interesting one. 516 00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:56,950 They they get the ball at their own 10 yard line. 517 00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:59,910 You know, this was, and this was part of this weird sequence that 518 00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:03,070 happened where you know, Indiana got the ball back after stopping 519 00:26:03,070 --> 00:26:05,280 Louisville and they just, you know, they threw. 2 520 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,440 incompletions and then a pass that was the route didn't get to 521 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,880 the sticks and then they did a good job of stopping Louisville 522 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,480 after they picked up a first out and Indiana then puts together a 523 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,200 really, really nice drive And it was a it was a mix of things but 524 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,400 it you know most of the big gainers getting down the field 525 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,500 were. Based upon the passing game and 526 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:33,300 he had a nice 12 yard run early in the down early in the 527 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:35,780 sequence, but Indiana really got through the middle of the field 528 00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:38,780 with the pass to camper, the pass to Lucas, the pass 529 00:26:38,780 --> 00:26:43,380 interference call. So they get down to the five 530 00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:47,740 yard line and then they do the following the false start which 531 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:50,620 pushes them back to the 10 And that's what that happens. 532 00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:53,900 Believe it or not, with six minutes and 14 seconds left in 533 00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,660 the game, it feels like they were down there, you know, in 534 00:26:56,660 --> 00:26:59,990 the red zone. At the death basically of the 535 00:26:59,990 --> 00:27:02,870 game, but it was 6-6 minutes and 15 seconds left of the game. 536 00:27:03,030 --> 00:27:07,910 So they false start, then they run the ball to Lucas for three 537 00:27:07,910 --> 00:27:11,750 yards, then they hand the ball off again, loss of a yard. 538 00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:14,830 Then they attempt to pass but end up that. 539 00:27:14,830 --> 00:27:18,190 That forces the Jackson run where he is, I think rightfully 540 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:20,910 ruled down at about the half yard line. 541 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,290 And then they run like everyone had. 542 00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:26,010 It's like, it's immediately like, Oh my God, like Michael 543 00:27:26,010 --> 00:27:28,850 Pennick Junior. I mean, it's like, except for 544 00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:30,650 the fact it's not Memorial Stadium, it's not against a good 545 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:33,050 team. It's like like it did have a lot 546 00:27:33,050 --> 00:27:35,890 of the Michael Pennicks Junior, the shades of that play. 547 00:27:35,890 --> 00:27:39,650 Anyway, go ahead. Then on the flip side of things, 548 00:27:39,650 --> 00:27:42,130 you know we're not the flip side but the the tail end of that 549 00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:45,050 sequence. They on 1/4 and and goal at the 550 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:48,430 one. Run a an incredibly slow running 551 00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:51,470 run play but the only after calling a timeout from the 552 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:54,110 sidelines so they could have extra time to talk about what 553 00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:57,830 they were going to do and predictably that gets stuffed 554 00:27:58,150 --> 00:28:01,710 And it just you mentioned this earlier on it's more frustrating 555 00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:04,350 than anything else because you know I don't think that it's 556 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:11,070 fair to trash the overall play calling of of Walt Bell and the 557 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:16,340 offensive staff when. They managed to get 90 or 89 558 00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:20,420 yards down the field in that drive and had a potential, you 559 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:23,740 know, played at 4 plays really to tie the game up. 560 00:28:24,020 --> 00:28:27,940 But the mentality when Indiana gets into these situations, as 561 00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:30,740 you mentioned earlier, it's like it completely changes for no 562 00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:33,700 good reason whatsoever. It's like they lose confidence 563 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:37,180 in the thing that got them there in the 1st place and. 564 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:41,180 It was just really frustrating that Indiana decided on three of 565 00:28:41,180 --> 00:28:43,300 those four plays that they're just going to kind of run into 566 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:45,820 the teeth of the Louisville defense when that hadn't worked 567 00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:48,220 all game. I mean, for the entire game, 568 00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:54,300 Indiana ended up with a grand total of 58 rushing yards on 27 569 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,620 attempts. That's 2.1 yards per attempt. 570 00:28:57,860 --> 00:29:01,980 And you know, figure of that 58 Henderson had rushed for 12 of 571 00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:06,760 them, you know, on in one run. And so you're really not talking 572 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,080 about an offensive approach, that it worked the whole game. 573 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360 So why when the game is on the line, is that what you default 574 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,760 to on three of the four plays? That doesn't make a whole lot of 575 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,640 sense. I mean this is this work where I 576 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,520 get really frustrated because like you know Alan in the 577 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,080 postgame is he, you know, he's asked about the 4th down play 578 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,640 and he says, well we don't second guess that, which OK, 579 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,200 whatever. But then he's like, man, you 580 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800 just gotta, you just gotta make the play and it's like Tom. 581 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,400 Your team hasn't effectively blocked for the run in those 582 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,520 sorts of situations the whole game. 583 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,480 Like why would you think that they suddenly would be able to? 584 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,080 I mean, this isn't a sports movie. 585 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680 Like it's not like the the guys are going to be on the sideline 586 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,400 and like reach in and grab some some inner depth of purpose that 587 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,120 didn't exist before that play. I mean the physics are involved 588 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,920 here and you know, so it just that that kind of thing. 589 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920 Especially when you, you know you look at the entire package 590 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,320 of things you don't you kind of throw away 2 downs you through 591 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,720 and and you also shoot yourself in the foot and you get a 592 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,320 penalty. You know for a false start which 593 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,600 you just can't have in that situation because it means 594 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,200 you've got 5 yards further to go. 595 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,840 You, you know you get to a point where you've got the 4th down. 596 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,240 You don't run out. Get your defense or get your 597 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920 offense set, see what the defense has to offer and then 598 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,440 call time out to see what you can do. 599 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,800 You're just like there's going to call time out, Okay? 600 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,600 The, the decision making process and the way that things happened 601 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,920 there I think are are more frustrating than the actual 602 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240 execution of the player, lack thereof. 603 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Because asking that asking are you at that point to do 604 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680 something that they hadn't really been able to do for 605 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,520 almost the entire game seemed fanciful. 606 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,200 And it's hard at that point from my perspective to be like Oh 607 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880 well they, you know they they did their the best that they 608 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800 could do because. There were a myriad of different 609 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840 things that could have been done there, all of which would have 610 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720 had a higher likelihood of succeeding than what they chose 611 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480 to do. It's just total side note. 612 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,800 I, it's funny you mentioned like the movie mentality because I've 613 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,960 made this joke in my seats hundreds of times over the last 614 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,870 like 10 years of football games. Like I've joked like, you know, 615 00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:12,150 all right when they make the movie of the Kevin Wilson era 616 00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:13,630 radio. When the military to lend it 617 00:31:13,630 --> 00:31:15,990 like this is the moment when the music starts to swell. 618 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:19,230 Like it's like we'll have a drive against like Michigan. 619 00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:20,990 We're down 12. It's like this is the moment 620 00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:22,630 where we're going to make it never happen. 621 00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:26,790 So I I want it. You, you mentioned two things I 622 00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:30,990 want to hit on because if you go to the time, the drive before 623 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:33,750 that drive where we got down to the goal line, you mentioned it 624 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:37,070 for a second. What's funny is I had that drive 625 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:41,630 marked out because all the momentum, Louisville just 626 00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:42,910 punted. We have all the momentum. 627 00:31:42,910 --> 00:31:45,950 We come out and fall start to start that drive. 628 00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:48,910 It's first and 15, we run Jackson up the middle. 629 00:31:49,390 --> 00:31:51,630 It's second and 15. You have an incomplete pass 630 00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:54,310 almost picked off. And then then they they do go 631 00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:58,270 for it on A they get to 4th and three, they go for it. 632 00:31:58,270 --> 00:31:59,670 And I wrote that. I like the call. 633 00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:02,620 I was like the problem is you have a false start and you 634 00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:05,620 basically burned a first down. So now it's like you're you're 635 00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:09,140 running with three downs to get to like you you basically you 636 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:10,860 burned it down and you had a false start. 637 00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:13,260 It's funny I'd actually forgotten we got to the goal 638 00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:16,260 line we also false started but it's exactly what you said like 639 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:19,620 the the the problem. I don't like the play call. 640 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:22,540 I thought it was a bad play call but it's like it's compounded by 641 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:25,100 that you exactly you mentioned we false started and then you 642 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:28,420 burned another play before that that that first downplay where 643 00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:31,660 you just run up the middle. It's like we do this so often 644 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:34,060 and that's what's bothersome about these runs up the middle 645 00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:36,660 is it's like you're just throwing it down away and that's 646 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:40,780 what bothers me is you're doing those types of things and it's 647 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:43,900 it's even more compounding I'm I'm stealing your line from 648 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:45,740 Twitter or I'm calling it Twitter. 649 00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:48,140 I'm sorry high school friend that changed their name. 650 00:32:48,220 --> 00:32:50,700 It's like you were Twitter to me you're not X your Twitter. 651 00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:54,380 Like I think the next play that Louisville has their on, 652 00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:58,920 obviously like the the half yard line they run like they just run 653 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,280 an out with plumber. He gets like 9 yards and it's 654 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920 like hey, Louisville showing us what we should have done the 655 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,680 last play we had the ball. Yeah it's just it's it's 656 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,800 frustrating. It wasn't a great play but to me 657 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,640 it's it's like less about that play. 658 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,240 It's more about burning downs and fall starts and again 659 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,160 mistakes that hey man, we're gonna make mistakes. 660 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 We're not a well oiled machine on football. 661 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,560 But again, when everything is high leverage, the mistakes just 662 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,250 are a big deal and it is. I'll wrap with this like I the 663 00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:29,530 preview with you and Taylor, I think one of the questions was 664 00:33:29,530 --> 00:33:32,530 about like hey, how, you know, paraphrasing like how how are we 665 00:33:32,530 --> 00:33:35,810 gonna get penalties off of you know the second the, the. 666 00:33:36,170 --> 00:33:39,730 Special teams and it's like man we don't you know like kind of 667 00:33:39,730 --> 00:33:42,490 joking if it said it's not something we really work on and 668 00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:44,970 you know I know this question will come up it's like how are 669 00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:47,250 we going to get these you know these false start these silly 670 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:49,970 penalties out. It's like I this is a feature 671 00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:52,050 not a bug of this program. It's not even in. 672 00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:54,520 This is not even tore down. Like just since you and I have 673 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,960 been watching football except for maybe a couple years under 674 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,920 Mallory. Like this is just it just we're 675 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,840 not there yet. Like we're just not there as a 676 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,040 program. And so it's frustrating and we 677 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,600 can ask every year and I think it's worth asking, but it's like 678 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,040 I just don't think until we're able to demonstrate five or six 679 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,800 years of continuity and being good like you're always going to 680 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,080 have these penalties. But it's just it the problem 681 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080 start to compound and then you get there anyway. 682 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,800 No, look, I think ultimately what what makes it the most 683 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,449 frustrating? To me, yes, the penalty and it's 684 00:34:24,449 --> 00:34:27,090 funny because Indiana only committed 4 penalties that they 685 00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:29,889 actually got penalized for in the game but they all felt like 686 00:34:29,889 --> 00:34:35,690 they came at key moments and and that that it's it's it's that as 687 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:39,650 much as anything. But I'll also say the following 688 00:34:39,850 --> 00:34:43,690 my my biggest complaint about the play call at the end hey it 689 00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:46,690 was a terribly designed play. I mean if you go back and watch 690 00:34:46,690 --> 00:34:51,090 the Vikings Eagles game from Thursday night and if you look 691 00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:52,770 at. Think that's a team that had 692 00:34:52,770 --> 00:34:56,130 confidence in their offensive line, had a very tightly packed 693 00:34:56,130 --> 00:35:00,810 formation and really focused on shoving the quarterback into the 694 00:35:00,930 --> 00:35:02,770 line of scrimmage and over the goal line. 695 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:05,690 Indiana doesn't have that offensive line. 696 00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:11,130 So lining up the back 8 yards behind the line of scrimmage on 697 00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:14,290 a play where you have to gain a yard, I mean if you go back and 698 00:35:14,290 --> 00:35:18,170 look at the replay the the the top down replay. 699 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:23,530 Indiana, by the time Henderson gets the ball is like 3 yard 700 00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:25,250 line. Contact happens at the three. 701 00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:27,490 The ball was snapped at the half yard line. 702 00:35:27,490 --> 00:35:33,490 I mean, and and you know what's fascinating is as somebody 703 00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:35,690 pointed out, like nobody blocks the left side of the line. 704 00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:38,810 There's another still picture. The ball is snapped and there's 705 00:35:38,890 --> 00:35:41,970 three offensive lineman who still have their hands on the 706 00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:44,810 ground. And I say all that not to try to 707 00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:47,810 pick on the offensive line, but more. 708 00:35:48,970 --> 00:35:52,810 You know what frustrates me a lot in sports is when we see 709 00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:56,650 teams and coaches try to force their team or players to do 710 00:35:56,650 --> 00:35:58,690 something that they're not capable of doing. 711 00:35:59,290 --> 00:36:04,330 And that to me that whole sequence felt like, you know, I 712 00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:07,130 you deciding that they were going to run the ball in and and 713 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:10,090 you kind of, I mean you got that sense even in Allen's postgame 714 00:36:10,090 --> 00:36:13,210 explanation of the call and it's like your team doesn't do that 715 00:36:13,210 --> 00:36:17,910 well and it hasn't done it well. All game and it really hasn't 716 00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:20,870 done it well all season. What have you done? 717 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:24,310 Well, you've you've you've passed blocked a little bit, at 718 00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:26,590 least enough that you can get some short yardage stuff. 719 00:36:26,590 --> 00:36:28,710 You have a quarterback who has shown the ability to throw the 720 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:31,190 ball. You also had a formation that if 721 00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:34,950 you were thinking you know if if Jackson doesn't hand the ball 722 00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:37,470 off to Henderson and just bootlegs it. 723 00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:42,020 To the left, he he could have crawled on his hands and knees 724 00:36:42,020 --> 00:36:44,340 into the end zone without anybody being there. 725 00:36:44,340 --> 00:36:47,940 Louisville was so committed to stopping the run in the box. 726 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:51,020 And so all of that just frustrates me because we see it 727 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:53,900 over and over again with I U where they get into these 728 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,260 situations and not only do they go Uber conservative, but they 729 00:36:57,260 --> 00:37:01,380 also tend to try to force themselves to do something that 730 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:03,660 the other team is really good at stopping and has already 731 00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:07,460 demonstrated an ability to stop. There's rarely any innovation. 732 00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:11,060 In how they approach those situations and you know the the 733 00:37:11,060 --> 00:37:14,500 few times that there have been all kind of happened in 2019. 734 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:16,980 It felt like when there was a very different mentality about 735 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:21,220 how Indiana was calling the place And so that's that makes 736 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:23,620 the last thing I'll say about this game. 737 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:28,100 It makes it hard to effectively evaluate what to think coming 738 00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:31,460 out of this game. I said on that pregame podcast 739 00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:34,190 that. You know, a moral victory in in 740 00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:37,070 air quotes where Indiana plays Louisville tough for the whole 741 00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:39,710 game and loses by, like, you know, seven points or whatever 742 00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:43,670 at the end would not be bad. And I believe that. 743 00:37:43,830 --> 00:37:45,510 I believe that. I still believe that. 744 00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:49,550 But the manner in which it happened makes it hard to know 745 00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:52,550 exactly what to think. You know, I think only the most 746 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:56,970 foolish or uninitiated. Of of I, U fans, people that 747 00:37:56,970 --> 00:37:59,490 that that haven't been through this before would look at that 748 00:37:59,490 --> 00:38:01,530 and say see that's something that I use definitely going to 749 00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:02,730 build on. That's a game that they're going 750 00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:04,570 to get better from. Because we've seen these games 751 00:38:04,570 --> 00:38:09,290 so often in Allen's history, and we saw it with Wilson as well, 752 00:38:09,490 --> 00:38:13,970 where this type of game gets played and then nothing actually 753 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:17,250 grows out of it as you move forward, because it's. 754 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,260 You know, and this one I think is especially hard to parse out 755 00:38:20,260 --> 00:38:23,500 because what do you focus on? Do you focus on the fight in the 756 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,180 second-half and how well they played? 757 00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:28,420 You could, but then what about the no show on both sides of the 758 00:38:28,420 --> 00:38:30,740 ball for 30 minutes in the first half? 759 00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:33,660 You could focus on the bad offensive play calling at the 760 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,020 end of the game for Indiana, but then what are you going to 761 00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:40,700 ignore the great play by by Jackson and by Lucas and and the 762 00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,020 overall contributions from the skill position players that we 763 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:44,860 saw for most of the rest of the second-half? 764 00:38:45,310 --> 00:38:48,030 You could focus on the defense not being able to stop anybody, 765 00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:50,110 but then you're going to ignore the fact that they did. 766 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:52,990 It's even the play calling in general. 767 00:38:52,990 --> 00:38:55,830 I mean it's just like it's so it's so Jekyll and Hyde. 768 00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:58,630 So I don't know what to make of this at this point. 769 00:38:58,630 --> 00:39:00,550 I don't know whether to feel ambivalent. 770 00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:02,470 I don't know whether to feel discouraged. 771 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:04,150 I don't know whether to feel encouraged. 772 00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:07,270 I do think that we, as we've learned more and more about the 773 00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:11,230 team, as I said at the top of this, they're not untalented. 774 00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:15,060 But I'm still not entirely sure that they are going to be much 775 00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:19,060 better than the three and nine record that I predicted at the 776 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:22,380 start of the year. Because this team has a 777 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:26,580 remarkable history of playing down to whatever level opponent 778 00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:28,580 they're playing and oftentimes just under. 779 00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:33,420 And that has not shown to be a winning formula thus far under 780 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:35,180 most of the time that Alan's been here. 781 00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:40,430 So we're nearing episode 1000. But I'm get I'm slowly getting 782 00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:42,070 better. I wanted to talk about timeouts. 783 00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:44,150 You should be proud of it instead of me just jamming it in 784 00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:46,510 on a 10 minute monologue where you're trying to cut me off In 785 00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:48,910 the beginning I've I've been patient and I've waited so I'm 786 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:51,070 I'm slowly getting better. I want the the last thing I want 787 00:39:51,070 --> 00:39:54,270 to talk about on this game is just the timeouts because as we 788 00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:58,590 mentioned after you don't get it on 4th down Louisville they have 789 00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:00,270 the ball. The game's over. 790 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:01,740 Like you don't have anymore timeouts. 791 00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:03,660 And this is. I'm going to get a little bit 792 00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:06,580 pissed here, but this is just like this has been going on for 793 00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:09,420 seven years. This absolute mismanagement of 794 00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:13,300 timeouts all of the time, as if they don't matter when you're 795 00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:16,540 when, when you're on a razor's edge and you're having these 796 00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:19,780 games that are really close, having the ability to get one 797 00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:22,580 more shot at the apple is a big deal. 798 00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:26,020 These these football coaches, all they ever talk about is you 799 00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:28,660 know how important possessions are and like you know we gotta 800 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:32,970 prized possessions and then you just piss away time outs, which 801 00:40:32,970 --> 00:40:36,330 is giving away a possession. So first half, this isn't the 802 00:40:36,410 --> 00:40:38,930 the end of the first quarter. We're still in the first 803 00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:40,250 quarter. We're on offense. 804 00:40:40,490 --> 00:40:44,530 We call two time outs in one effing series. 805 00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:48,250 On the first time out, we come out and we get no yards on the 806 00:40:48,250 --> 00:40:50,450 play. We run a second play, third 807 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:52,930 down, we come down. We have to call time out again. 808 00:40:53,090 --> 00:40:55,530 That results in us throwing an interception. 809 00:40:55,570 --> 00:41:00,990 Now this is where I get really retroactively pissed, because 810 00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:03,350 both those timeouts looks like Jackson was having a hard time 811 00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:05,830 getting the offense set. Louisville is moving some stuff 812 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:07,350 around. He comes up to the line and 813 00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:09,470 suddenly it's like we're the play clocks running down. 814 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:13,620 He's got to burn a timeout. That's in one world. 815 00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:15,180 It's fine. Like, I get retroactively pissed 816 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:17,580 because it's like, hey, maybe we don't screw around with this 817 00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:19,980 Jackson Sorosby thing so much the beginning of the year. 818 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,460 Maybe more reps at the beginning of the year. 819 00:41:22,660 --> 00:41:26,460 Let as the number one quarterback with this crew gets 820 00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:29,580 Jackson the ability to let me just, let's finish time out gets 821 00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:32,340 his ability to to see those things get ready for it. 822 00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:34,300 But so you have two timeouts in the first half and then the 823 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:38,700 second-half you have a timeout. It's a third and 14 play. 824 00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:42,410 There's a holding play which brings back a touchdown and then 825 00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:43,930 we just we call time out on defense. 826 00:41:43,930 --> 00:41:45,690 Well, everyone's kind of getting things figured out. 827 00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:48,130 We come out and we're immediately off sides. 828 00:41:48,290 --> 00:41:50,570 Like out of a timeout we come out, we're off sides, and then 829 00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:52,850 we have a timeout before that 4th down play. 830 00:41:52,850 --> 00:41:56,890 So we have 4 timeouts there. Our ending result is no gain, an 831 00:41:56,930 --> 00:42:00,330 interception on defense, we're off sides and then a two yard 832 00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,770 loss of the goal line. Like at some point, if you're 833 00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:06,290 gonna use timeouts, not at the end of the game, they need to 834 00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:09,290 provide a value for the team because right now it just looks 835 00:42:09,290 --> 00:42:13,250 like we're mismanaging. We're not ready or we come out 836 00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:16,690 and then we have an immediately another penalty that just 837 00:42:16,850 --> 00:42:19,530 negates everything. So, like, we've got to get this 838 00:42:19,530 --> 00:42:22,330 figured out because timeouts are important at the end of half and 839 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:25,530 end of games. So I think you hit upon an 840 00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:28,770 important point. I think that I was talking to 841 00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:31,770 somebody yesterday and they said accurately, it felt like Indiana 842 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:34,450 just kind of punted the first two games of the year. 843 00:42:35,110 --> 00:42:37,550 And treated them like an extension of practice. 844 00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:39,230 And they got the results that you would expected. 845 00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:41,670 They lost to Ohio State. They beat Indiana State. 846 00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:45,990 But your point about the lack of repetitions coming back to bite 847 00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:49,470 you, I really do think that there's an active question that 848 00:42:49,470 --> 00:42:51,470 needs to be asked. Like, you know, if you have 849 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:54,430 Tavin Jackson and the number one offensive unit out there and 850 00:42:54,430 --> 00:42:57,190 they're playing all the snaps against Ohio State. 851 00:42:57,580 --> 00:43:00,780 And they're playing most of the snaps against Indiana State. 852 00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:03,340 Are they better prepared for this game? 853 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:06,180 And I think, I mean I don't know how you could for all meet, we 854 00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:07,580 hear about the importance of practice. 855 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:11,940 For all, we hear about practice and repetitions, the idea that 856 00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:15,820 they would be not better prepared if that had been the 857 00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:17,820 approach. That's what I think has been 858 00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:21,740 most frustrating about the start of the year is like it's hard 859 00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:24,900 for me to believe that Taven Jackson just became. 860 00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:29,220 A quality quarterback that you could tell that he could make 861 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:33,460 throws and had moxie in the pocket that that just happened 862 00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:36,940 in the last week like that really stretches credulity. 863 00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:41,780 And so if if you're able to see that, rather than mess around 864 00:43:41,780 --> 00:43:44,660 with a quarterback competition that ended like everybody 865 00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:48,190 assumed that it would. You know, why don't you just 866 00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:50,270 say, look what is really important? 867 00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:53,910 We get 12 games, we're going to need to win six of them. 868 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:56,590 We have a brand new quarterback coming in. 869 00:43:56,630 --> 00:44:00,990 Why not just whoever it was? You pick a person based upon 870 00:44:00,990 --> 00:44:03,630 what you see in practice. You don't do these rotations 871 00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:07,550 because you have to get practice running plays against live 872 00:44:07,590 --> 00:44:10,990 opposition that aren't your own practice squad or your own 873 00:44:10,990 --> 00:44:13,070 defense. Like that is. 874 00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:16,270 Really frustrating and it really makes you wonder in a game like 875 00:44:16,270 --> 00:44:20,590 this where you had executional issues with with some aspects of 876 00:44:20,590 --> 00:44:24,110 the offense, you know, especially in the run game, it's 877 00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:26,750 like would more reps with him at quarterback. 878 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:29,590 Reading defenses mattered. I think it would have mattered 879 00:44:29,590 --> 00:44:32,750 in a positive way because those first two timeouts on that 880 00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:34,350 series, like, I don't blame Jackson. 881 00:44:34,350 --> 00:44:36,190 Like I blame the coaching staff because I you're. 882 00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:37,510 Going to, you're going to do that with it. 883 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:39,510 You're doing that with the software, you know, with a with 884 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:42,350 a young quarterback, you know and as much as we talked about 885 00:44:42,350 --> 00:44:44,670 while he's young and he's still. Starting Okay. 886 00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:47,230 There's no substitute for doing that in games. 887 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:50,030 And you know, yes, it stinks that Indiana had to start 888 00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:54,390 against Ohio State, but you could have still run plays 889 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:56,790 against Ohio State. You could have still figured out 890 00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:59,190 yo Okay. So we have to focus on specific 891 00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:02,190 areas, but only playing him for half of that game essentially, 892 00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:05,830 and then not getting the full amount of reps in the Indiana 893 00:45:05,830 --> 00:45:07,510 State game. It just seems very. 894 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:12,190 Counterintuitive, knowing that you have to get your quarterback 895 00:45:12,190 --> 00:45:14,750 up and running four games, like the Louisville game of the other 896 00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:19,270 thing, I'll say you know, within that confine, given that they 897 00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:22,190 didn't name Jackson the starter and they didn't have him play 898 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:25,990 all the snaps the first two, the offensive timeouts are a little 899 00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:28,150 more understandable. I don't like them. 900 00:45:28,490 --> 00:45:31,010 But the fact that they happen in the first half and the fact 901 00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:33,250 that, you know, even though they didn't have a good outcome 902 00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:35,570 initially, at least you are establishing at that point. 903 00:45:35,570 --> 00:45:37,650 OK, no. When you're not sure what to do, 904 00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:39,810 let's take a break and let's figure out what we're supposed 905 00:45:39,810 --> 00:45:40,610 to do. That's fine. 906 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:43,290 What irks me is the second-half timeouts. 907 00:45:43,930 --> 00:45:47,270 So you mentioned. The third and 14, they get 908 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:49,510 penalized or they though they get all time out because they 909 00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:51,870 only have 10 men on the field in that. 910 00:45:52,070 --> 00:45:55,590 It's like that's a fundamental, like very basic error. 911 00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:58,310 The after 1/3 is after a long play. 912 00:45:58,310 --> 00:46:00,790 Where it was it was called back. So you had this like long 913 00:46:00,790 --> 00:46:02,710 intermission. It wasn't like a quick Bang Bang 914 00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:04,070 play. And then as you mentioned you, 915 00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:06,630 you commit a penalty right afterwards. 916 00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:08,750 And and and that. That's really, really 917 00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:12,370 frustrating. But then the other one that 918 00:46:12,370 --> 00:46:14,730 really hurts me I talked about earlier is this idea that, you 919 00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:17,130 know when you're at the goal line, you have certain things 920 00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:19,530 that you can use to your advantages and offense. 921 00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:23,370 And one of them is you can force the defense to show you a look. 922 00:46:23,770 --> 00:46:25,130 And then you can make a decision. 923 00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:27,490 If you were just planning on going and taking a time out, 924 00:46:27,490 --> 00:46:29,930 fine. But you can motion people. 925 00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:32,170 You can see if they're just going to focus on the box. 926 00:46:32,170 --> 00:46:34,410 You can read the defense a little bit more. 927 00:46:35,090 --> 00:46:36,090 You know you can. You could. 928 00:46:36,690 --> 00:46:39,610 There's so many different things that you can do before you call 929 00:46:39,610 --> 00:46:41,690 a time out. Rather than just saying what we 930 00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:43,290 really need to just talk about this. 931 00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:47,130 It almost felt like they didn't know what they should be doing 932 00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:51,040 in that particular situation. And he got to know that and and 933 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,560 that's so that not only was the time out from the time that it 934 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,600 was taken irksome, but the fact that they felt compelled to do 935 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,120 it right up front because they they were, they were they seemed 936 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,760 unsure about they were supposed to do that is really problematic 937 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,400 as well. But again it fits in with a lot 938 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,400 of what we've seen historically. So it's again going back to kind 939 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,800 of what I started the segment on. 940 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,220 There are positives. That you can take out of this 941 00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:21,740 and and I'm really like a lot of the players that Indiana's got 942 00:47:21,740 --> 00:47:24,780 on their roster particularly the skill position players on 943 00:47:24,780 --> 00:47:28,620 offense and I really like Jackson and you know we we had a 944 00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:31,100 we had a strong suspicion the offensive line wasn't going to 945 00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,500 be good. Okay, We knew that already. 946 00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:38,300 But overall like I'm impressed by the players but the the 947 00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:41,340 structure that they're playing in is not doing a whole lot 948 00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:44,550 right now and. You know, you can look at the 949 00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:47,150 game and say, well, gosh, that's a Louisville team that'll 950 00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:51,110 probably win 8-9 games. You know, the fact that you came 951 00:47:51,110 --> 00:47:53,590 back and almost tied it in the end and maybe would have gone 952 00:47:53,590 --> 00:47:57,270 for two, I mean, that's great. But the flip side is I don't 953 00:47:57,270 --> 00:48:00,550 know how much of a lesson is going to get actually learned 954 00:48:00,550 --> 00:48:03,350 out of this because it looked an awful lot like things that we've 955 00:48:03,350 --> 00:48:07,030 seen before and very few lessons appeared to be learned from 956 00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:09,310 those situations either. So it's just going to be really 957 00:48:09,310 --> 00:48:11,960 interesting to see. What this means, and I still 958 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,320 don't know that we've necessarily grasped the bigger 959 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,640 truth of whatever this team is at this point. 960 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920 Now through three games, you know that that's we're not we're 961 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440 not any closer to it than we were before the game started. 962 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,340 Scott I don't think, no, I mean if there's ever and no will 963 00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:29,420 never be a Indiana football category on Jeopardy, that would 964 00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:31,740 be insane. But if there was a great, like, 965 00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:34,820 you know, $1000 double Jeopardy question would be, you know, if 966 00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:37,820 Jackson has, which we hope has a fantastic year this year, it's 967 00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:41,100 like hey, who is who is the game one starting quarterback for the 968 00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:43,700 2023 Indiana Hoosiers. You'd be like, oh that was that 969 00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,180 was Tavin Jackson's big breakout year. 970 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:46,340 It's like, no, that was Brendan Soros. 971 00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:51,900 Me like that was you know it's the I'll end with this that you 972 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:53,860 know I agree with you. I'm not sure. 973 00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:56,890 I think I have a feel for how this team is going to be. 974 00:48:56,890 --> 00:48:59,570 I think, I think I have a feel for him. 975 00:48:59,570 --> 00:49:01,090 I don't think this is like definitive. 976 00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:03,290 It was getting there when we're 21, nothing. 977 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:05,490 It's like, all right, this is, this is really going to be 978 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:07,890 rough. They they pick themselves up off 979 00:49:07,890 --> 00:49:10,730 the mat, but like you said, they kind of did and then at the very 980 00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:12,530 precipice of doing something they didn't. 981 00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:17,550 And so I'm not sure what we have here, but you know, I was 982 00:49:17,830 --> 00:49:20,390 talking with a friend the other day, you know that it's like 983 00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:22,310 we're not going to win the bit, You know, we're not going to be 984 00:49:22,310 --> 00:49:23,750 winning big 10s. We're not going to the football 985 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:25,070 playoffs. So it's like you're talking 986 00:49:25,070 --> 00:49:26,510 about, you know, do balls matter at all? 987 00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:29,550 I'm like, well, for us they do like they have balls have to 988 00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:31,310 matter because they don't like I don't know what we're doing here 989 00:49:31,310 --> 00:49:33,110 because we're not. We're not playing in that upper 990 00:49:33,110 --> 00:49:36,150 echelon where bowls matter and you know, trying to get, you 991 00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:40,000 know, if getting to a ball, to me as I think like a, that would 992 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,280 be a really nice benchmark for a season because if we're winning, 993 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,520 you know, three games or four games, it's kind of like then 994 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,920 we're just circling the drain. Like who cares, you know the 995 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,360 road now narrows like it's just like this was a game that it's 996 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,480 not like this means we can't make it to a bowl. 997 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,520 And we were very competitive and if you change a couple little 998 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,240 things we could win games like, you know, Maryland and Purdue 999 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,400 and Michigan State and Illinois coming up this year. 1000 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,880 But it's just it's it's frustrating at this point 1001 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,640 because the road is narrowing and it feels like we're always 1002 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,560 in that spot. Like like I started the you know 1003 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,920 my initial thought with the game is how we're always kind of 1004 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,920 getting our backs to the wall and we're short stacked. 1005 00:50:17,370 --> 00:50:19,530 It's like we get that way in a season 2 where the the road 1006 00:50:19,530 --> 00:50:22,290 starts narrowing. We're not even a September 18th 1007 00:50:22,290 --> 00:50:25,650 yet like in the road already you know the the the medians are 1008 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:28,130 already cut off by construction so to speak and we're getting 1009 00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:31,450 down to I see that the the the merge arrow for one lane coming 1010 00:50:31,450 --> 00:50:33,330 up. So it's like that's that's what 1011 00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:38,570 is frustrating but it's not all bad a lot of good things and I I 1012 00:50:38,890 --> 00:50:39,930 I'm with you Jackson's really good. 1013 00:50:39,930 --> 00:50:42,570 Lucas is good like on offense we have some we have at least a 1014 00:50:42,570 --> 00:50:44,730 pulse that I thought lat you know two weeks ago I'm not sure 1015 00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:46,410 we had. I'd like to say welcome to the 1016 00:50:46,410 --> 00:50:49,490 party, Bradley. Archer who, you know, I mean 1017 00:50:50,170 --> 00:50:52,530 grad transfer from Stanford tight end. 1018 00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:54,490 This was not a guy I was expecting to see a whole lot of, 1019 00:50:54,490 --> 00:50:58,090 made a couple of great catches in the game and and actually 1020 00:50:58,090 --> 00:51:02,690 ended up as Indiana's highest graded pass catcher right in 1021 00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:05,450 front of Jalen Lucas. So that's great. 1022 00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:07,850 I mean tight end has been a big question mark just because of 1023 00:51:07,850 --> 00:51:11,730 the the lack of experience at that position and the fact that 1024 00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:14,010 he was able to come in and provide a safety valve of sorts 1025 00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:16,250 and the Jackson was able to cite him and use them was great. 1026 00:51:17,890 --> 00:51:20,930 You know and and look I think the the receiving corps 1027 00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:25,130 continues to look pretty good overall despite the fact that 1028 00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:29,210 the the past blockings been kind of uneven from various people on 1029 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:34,490 the line. I I don't know I'm it's really I 1030 00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:37,370 see individual moments or individual efforts where I'm 1031 00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:39,530 like I this could add up to something. 1032 00:51:41,050 --> 00:51:44,850 And I still think that a lot of the games we highlighted in the 1033 00:51:45,250 --> 00:51:49,210 early, like in the preseason podcasts, those are still 1034 00:51:49,210 --> 00:51:51,530 leveraged games. I think Indiana at this point, I 1035 00:51:51,530 --> 00:51:54,650 can at least say, has shown that they're not going to be 1036 00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:57,090 incompetent to the point that they can't compete in those 1037 00:51:57,090 --> 00:51:59,130 games. You know, you look at obviously 1038 00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:01,290 Maryland coming up in a couple of weeks. 1039 00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:05,050 You look at Rutgers, you look at Illinois, you look at Michigan 1040 00:52:05,050 --> 00:52:08,370 State, Wisconsin, Purdue. I mean, there's that six teams 1041 00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:12,590 on the schedule right now. But I think Indiana has at least 1042 00:52:12,590 --> 00:52:15,310 a puncher's chance of beating. If you think about you know how 1043 00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:17,590 everything sets up and that's good. 1044 00:52:17,590 --> 00:52:19,910 I mean you know so I. So we have learned that at least 1045 00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:23,870 I guess what concerns me is more that when you look at this 1046 00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:31,050 Indiana team, their ability to. Seal the deal in games that are 1047 00:52:31,050 --> 00:52:34,130 close against teams like that. I'm just a little bit concerned 1048 00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:36,290 about. I mean, the one game Indiana was 1049 00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:40,530 favored by or favored in according to FPI, which is 1050 00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:44,330 ESPN's predictive statistic in the Big 10 going into the season 1051 00:52:44,330 --> 00:52:47,010 was the Rutgers game. And Rutgers has played well 1052 00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:50,730 enough now at 3 and O that Rutgers is now a slight favored 1053 00:52:50,730 --> 00:52:53,650 in that game according to FPI. And so that's what worries me. 1054 00:52:53,650 --> 00:52:57,270 It's like. We we as as observers and fans 1055 00:52:57,270 --> 00:53:01,190 and people watching this team as we often do in the in the 1056 00:53:01,190 --> 00:53:04,190 preseason for I, U Football, I think we get activated and 1057 00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:08,390 turned on by individual moments of good play by by players or by 1058 00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:10,030 position groups. And that's fine. 1059 00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:13,390 But a lot of people take that and then run with it and say see 1060 00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:14,990 Indiana will compete in the conference. 1061 00:53:14,990 --> 00:53:18,590 But we tend to not look at the statistical output as it 1062 00:53:18,590 --> 00:53:20,750 compares to the other teams that Indiana's going to be playing 1063 00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:22,550 and that's why we have predictive statistics. 1064 00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:26,470 Indiana will still probably be rated second worst in the 1065 00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:30,630 conference when the new SP Plus ratings come out because other 1066 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:33,110 teams have just played better than them. 1067 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:36,110 Maybe they'll be third best because maybe Michigan State 1068 00:53:36,110 --> 00:53:39,470 falls behind them. But if everything is pointed 1069 00:53:39,470 --> 00:53:41,110 towards, can Indiana get to a bowl? 1070 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:45,740 I do worry still about their ability to pick up the four wins 1071 00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:48,540 that they would need to against that group of six teams. 1072 00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:50,700 And by losing to Louisville, that's what you've essentially 1073 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:53,780 left yourself with on outside of a couple of years, we we're kind 1074 00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:57,340 of always in the we're either bad or it's like we're we're 1075 00:53:57,340 --> 00:53:59,260 good enough to be close in games. 1076 00:53:59,260 --> 00:54:02,820 But you know, being really close and it's like I don't want to 1077 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,780 get into moral victory talk, but being really close and then 1078 00:54:05,780 --> 00:54:08,100 winning a game, like those are two totally different worlds. 1079 00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:10,580 And you're right, we get to the precipice and then we can't win. 1080 00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:13,580 But it's it's not just one play like I think we've tried to 1081 00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:16,740 outline in this pod, like the the the ability to step over 1082 00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:19,980 that precipice and take a 21 to 14 loss to Louisville, which was 1083 00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:21,340 close. Like, yeah, that 4th down play, 1084 00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:24,620 everyone focuses on it. It's like it is the timeouts. 1085 00:54:24,620 --> 00:54:26,300 It's the, you know, the fall starts. 1086 00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:29,340 It's like 5 or 6 mistakes. You can't just pick one of them. 1087 00:54:29,540 --> 00:54:32,420 You got to clean all those up. And that's what takes a loss to 1088 00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:34,460 a win. And then to win all four of 1089 00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:36,380 those, you got to keep them cleaned up for all four or five 1090 00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:37,780 of those games. And that's something that just 1091 00:54:37,780 --> 00:54:41,100 historically Indiana has had a really hard time doing. 1092 00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:45,620 And that's why winning is tough because we've shown as a program 1093 00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:47,340 we can get really close. We have a bunch of like Matt 1094 00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:49,620 Zimmerman says, like we're like the king of moral victories and 1095 00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:52,060 you know we're defined by our close losses because those are 1096 00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:55,020 not that hard, hard to do. It's how do you take the next 1097 00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:57,500 step and then turn those all into W's. 1098 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,460 That is that is really, really hard. 1099 00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:03,140 It involves kind of solving not just one of the mistakes we 1100 00:55:03,140 --> 00:55:06,620 outline, but you kind of have to solve 80% of those mistakes to 1101 00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:10,020 turn a close loss into a what is just a close win. 1102 00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:13,060 And so I'm with you. I'm not sure if they are going 1103 00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:15,460 to be able to get all those things done, but I'm I'm with 1104 00:55:15,460 --> 00:55:18,500 you that the road is still there and it's it's I'm more 1105 00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:23,140 optimistic of four to five wins now than I was two weeks ago. 1106 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:27,820 But I'm also realistic that is probably going to get closer to 1107 00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:30,540 the 3-4 that you and I predicted at the beginning of the year. 1108 00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:33,940 I mean, you know, it's interesting because there's a 1109 00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:36,020 lot of toss up games on Indiana schedule. 1110 00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:40,740 I mean, the Indiana's of 91% favored against Akron Maryland. 1111 00:55:40,740 --> 00:55:43,060 Indiana is is only a 27% favorite. 1112 00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:45,940 And and honestly, as as Jekyll and Hyde as Maryland has looked, 1113 00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:48,260 their explosiveness on offense is pretty frightening. 1114 00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:50,550 So if you take that out, particularly since it's on the 1115 00:55:50,550 --> 00:55:53,830 road, you know the Indiana, Rutgers, I mean that's a very 1116 00:55:53,830 --> 00:55:56,990 even game. It's 5446 in terms of FPI 1117 00:55:56,990 --> 00:56:00,070 slightly in favor of Rutgers. The Wisconsin game is actually 1118 00:56:00,270 --> 00:56:02,870 Wisconsin has not looked that great so far this year. 1119 00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:07,150 That's 64% in favor of Wisconsin, 36% in favor of 1120 00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:09,550 Indiana. That's I mean that's that's a 1121 00:56:09,550 --> 00:56:11,830 better chance than they had at the beginning of the year. 1122 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,200 Illinois, it's 61% to 38% in favor of Illinois. 1123 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,720 Well that's closer than it was in Illinois has not looked very 1124 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:20,920 good. And Michigan State, Indiana is 1125 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,840 basically it's going to be too at that point. 1126 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,920 Yeah, I mean that's right. Yeah. 1127 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,680 Michigan State might not exist as a university at that stage, 1128 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,240 but that's a toss up right now. So, but it really ends up okay 1129 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:37,160 if if we exclude the Maryland game from the sample for the 1130 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,130 moment. And you look at those other five 1131 00:56:39,130 --> 00:56:42,010 games, it's like, can Indiana win four of those five? 1132 00:56:42,010 --> 00:56:44,490 And that has to be the destination. 1133 00:56:44,490 --> 00:56:47,610 I mean, I I think there might have been an argument that, you 1134 00:56:47,610 --> 00:56:50,290 know, 3:00 and 9:00 or 4:00 and 8:00 would have been acceptable 1135 00:56:50,290 --> 00:56:53,330 if Indiana didn't have an effective quarterback and if 1136 00:56:53,330 --> 00:56:55,530 Indiana didn't have the skill position players that they 1137 00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:58,250 clearly have and if they didn't have some of the defensive 1138 00:56:58,250 --> 00:57:01,890 personnel like Aaron Casey, like Andre Carter. 1139 00:57:01,890 --> 00:57:03,290 But they've got all those pieces. 1140 00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:08,470 So to me, this is a team. That should go to a bowl and I 1141 00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:12,190 don't want to hear about the Big 10 E because again, you've got 1142 00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:17,550 Maryland, Illinois, Michigan State, Purdue, Rutgers, you 1143 00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:21,510 know, all on the schedule and Wisconsin and you get Wisconsin 1144 00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:24,430 at home who's, you know, been not that great looking so far. 1145 00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:30,070 So you know, now I think maybe I adjust my expectation of what 1146 00:57:30,070 --> 00:57:33,110 the team should do up a little bit because they've shown that 1147 00:57:33,110 --> 00:57:36,030 they have a pulse. But in the back of my head, I'm 1148 00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:38,550 like, I don't think this is a whole lot different from what we 1149 00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:42,190 saw last year probably in terms of what the outcomes will be 1150 00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:45,470 because they still look like a team that's going to struggle to 1151 00:57:45,470 --> 00:57:49,030 close games out against teams that are roughly equal in 1152 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:52,390 strength. So anyway any final thoughts 1153 00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:55,110 before we wrap up Scott. No, no man. 1154 00:57:55,110 --> 00:57:57,910 I think you know we're I I probably won't be doing that the 1155 00:57:57,910 --> 00:58:02,190 preview on Akron with you but I I I stand by what I said with 1156 00:58:02,190 --> 00:58:06,590 Indiana State you know because I I say you just got to get a win. 1157 00:58:06,590 --> 00:58:09,030 Like I I know we kind of slightly disagreed you know very 1158 00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:11,430 minimally on that but you know if you look at Indiana State 1159 00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:14,230 like they played well they got some confidence what did it get 1160 00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:16,950 them coming out looking comatose against Louisville Like I'm not 1161 00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:19,510 sure how much. Like to me, we're back at the 1162 00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:21,550 point with Akron like style points don't matter. 1163 00:58:21,550 --> 00:58:23,710 Like get a W like really, really close. 1164 00:58:23,710 --> 00:58:25,910 Like having to do it in the last field goal probably wouldn't be 1165 00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:29,030 awesome, but I I don't think there's much you can take. 1166 00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:31,790 This team is showing that it's not like they're going to get a 1167 00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:33,830 bunch of confidence boost and then you know they might come 1168 00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:37,470 out DOA against Maryland. Like to me, Akron is just that 1169 00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:39,990 is a complete you've got to get a win in that game. 1170 00:58:40,990 --> 00:58:46,190 So that becomes the next task and that'll be a 730 kickoff for 1171 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:50,630 Indiana prime time hopefully on the actual Big 10 network, not 1172 00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:55,230 Big 10 network overflow one like the Louisville game was. 1173 00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:58,070 So we'll we'll keep an eye out for that. 1174 00:58:58,070 --> 00:58:59,990 Couple things real quick before we wrap up. 1175 00:59:00,470 --> 00:59:05,910 First, our condolences to. The I, U football family over 1176 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:09,630 the loss of Marty Clark. The Earlier this week Marty, 1177 00:59:09,790 --> 00:59:14,230 longtime football employee, passed away and Marty was 1178 00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:16,070 actually my neighbor. I think I mentioned this on a 1179 00:59:16,070 --> 00:59:18,750 podcast about a year ago. I was neighbor neighbors of 1180 00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:21,510 Marty for about 3 years. I had a couple of graduate 1181 00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:22,510 classes with him. Great. 1182 00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:27,110 You know, great guy to talk with and will certainly be missed and 1183 00:59:27,110 --> 00:59:29,780 I know that. His loss was was clearly felt 1184 00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:31,980 throughout the entire I U football community. 1185 00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:37,660 So we are condolences to his family and our best wishes with 1186 00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:41,260 them moving forward. The other thing I'll note is 1187 00:59:41,260 --> 00:59:46,140 that as we are moving into the next couple of months, we will 1188 00:59:46,140 --> 00:59:49,460 be ramping up basketball coverage alongside of football 1189 00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:51,180 coverage. 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No obligation beyond that. 1198 01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:21,450 Anyway, Scott, as always, a pleasure. 1199 01:00:21,490 --> 01:00:24,410 Looking forward to chatting with you again in the future and my 1200 01:00:24,410 --> 01:00:25,770 thanks to all you folks for listening in. 1201 01:00:25,770 --> 01:00:28,810 Our thanks to our friends at home field apparel and across 1202 01:00:28,810 --> 01:00:32,090 the entire back home network. Be sure to tune in throughout 1203 01:00:32,090 --> 01:00:34,130 the course of the week. We'll have preview podcasts 1204 01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:38,610 coming up for the Indiana Akron game as well as the weekly 1205 01:00:38,610 --> 01:00:41,810 Crimson Cash, which you should catch on Thursday nights, Friday 1206 01:00:41,810 --> 01:00:43,290 mornings. For Scott, I'm Galen, this is 1207 01:00:43,290 --> 01:00:44,330 Crimson Cash. We'll catch you folks. 1208 01:00:44,330 --> 01:00:46,170 On the flip side, bring back the Bison. 1209 01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:47,330 So everybody.