1 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:10,200 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:21,600 field apparel welcome back to Crimson Cask ale and klaviyo 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,800 here. It's Thursday. 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,700 The 22nd of September, it's officially fall. 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,000 I'm officially on the road to seasonal affective disorder as I 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,300 think I woke up and it was like maybe 52 outside it's going to 7 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:38,300 be like 43 tomorrow. This is not funny, Mike. 8 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:41,600 I don't need laughter here. This is a serious serious thing. 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,800 But yes, that we had our way like 95 degrees here in 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Bloomington on Wednesday. And I think that might be the 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:55,700 last time we get above 80 until May perhaps so Not good. 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,400 But anyway, we're not here to talk about my problems with the 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,800 weather. We're here to talk about IU 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,300 football and we've got Mike Petrie joining us. 15 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:07,100 If you've been following the podcast for any length of time, 16 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:10,700 you've heard from Mike and Mike, it's good to see you and hear 17 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:11,900 you again. How are you doing? 18 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:16,000 I'm doing well. And yeah, I think we're not here 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,700 to talk about your problems with whether we're here to talk about 20 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:21,600 how you footballs problems of richest with the weather. 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 But over all of which there are are either many depending on who 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,100 you ask or none and we should just not like there's no 23 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:29,800 problems at all and everything is great. 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,000 So we'll see who's right on that as we move into this game here, 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,300 but before we do that quickly, just a reminder that we are part 26 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:41,000 of the back home network here, Crimson cast and the back home 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,300 network is brought to you by home-field apparel our 28 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:48,000 presenting sponsor your place to go for some tremendously soft 29 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,100 gear, some tremendously, awesome, vintage designs, Mike, 30 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:55,600 I don't know if you saw this. 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I was thinking about this. 52 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:05,300 I remember when we were in school, I you in Cincinnati had 53 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:09,500 a series then and it seemed kind of out of place because, you 54 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:13,300 know, back then all anybody paid attention to were like the big 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,900 conferences and Cincinnati might as well have been like a 56 00:03:16,908 --> 00:03:20,300 division 2 team for all. We knew at that point and even 57 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:23,000 cam Cameron's teams were able to handle. 58 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:25,600 Dole Cincinnati in both of the games that they played. 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,000 If my memory serves me correctly, this you battle. 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,400 So you've had a long history with the city, obviously, but 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,100 also with you see and, you know, it's interesting because I don't 62 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:41,800 think many people have much of a memory of you see, prior to Luke 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,100 fickle, doing what he's done over the last few years, most 64 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:48,400 people, fortunately miss the Tommy tuberville era, and most 65 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,800 of the previous eras before that what was your like, what was it 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,400 like kind of being around. Found the you see program, you 67 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,600 know kind of observing what they were doing and we do. 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,700 What were they like in for instance like the 80s early 90s? 69 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:08,500 Well it it was to put it bluntly a trash Heap, set on fire and 70 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:13,600 burning into the atmosphere in the 80s. 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:19,399 The the football program would compete and I use compete rather 72 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:26,500 rather liberally here. With 10th state to be the 107th 73 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:32,400 ranked team in division. One at the time there were 117 s 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,200 in division one. They went back-to-back years, I 75 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,400 saw, I was just looking through, kind of the House of Horrors 76 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,600 that was their athletic department back in the 80s. 77 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:48,800 They went back-to-back years. One year went one and ten and 78 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,600 one year went one night and one the only time Was against 79 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,600 Rutgers now which also shows how far they've come. 80 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,500 I guess. Yeah. 81 00:05:00,100 --> 00:05:07,100 Maybe and, you know, and the basketball team I think that 82 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,500 people kind of have a feeling that anybody who's been a fan of 83 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,700 basketball, the last 30 years, like Cincinnati's pretty much 84 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:18,700 always been there, but the program that Bob Huggins picked 85 00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:23,000 up in the late 80s again wasn't absolute. 86 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,000 Abject disaster. I look back. 87 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,900 There was a year. They went 3 and 25 and their 88 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:34,500 winds were two of the Winds. I don't think even counted 89 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:38,900 because one was Eastern Kentucky by two points and another one 90 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:42,100 was Northern Kentucky who was definitely a division to school 91 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:48,200 at that time. And then in a time that was 92 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,400 reminiscent or I guess much like Mike Davis, help is on the Way, 93 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:59,000 there was a very much. Ballyhooed freshman class that 94 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,500 everybody was very excited about in the program and it was going 95 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:07,500 to set the program back on the right side of the line and the 96 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:10,000 entire freshman class was declared ineligible. 97 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:15,900 So I mean just no matter what you were trying to do at that 98 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,600 time, they couldn't do it. Right? 99 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,300 Nippert Stadium which is one of the great really cool venue and 100 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,500 I think they've done a lot of great things with that recently. 101 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:30,800 During the 80s. It was essentially condemned and 102 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,500 University of Cincinnati which couldn't draw enough to fill 103 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:40,000 that stadium was instead playing off campus at Riverfront 104 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,100 stadium. And when you can't sell a 10,000 105 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:49,200 seat Stadium, heard, you know, it 15 to 20,000 seat Stadium, it 106 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,700 doesn't look very good when you then go to a fifty thousand seat 107 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:56,000 stadium. So yeah. 108 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 I mean, Everything that could go wrong. 109 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Did go wrong. And then from about the 90s, 110 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,900 they used the basketball program, kind of got that back 111 00:07:06,900 --> 00:07:12,700 into a prominence and use that to move themselves up and 112 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:17,500 they've basically, been coming up against, you know, against 113 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:22,000 the odds, and against some stacked debts for the last 25 to 114 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,700 30 years. Yeah, it's interesting because, 115 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:29,700 you know, the Cincinnati program it's just kind of always around 116 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:32,100 at this. And, you know, I mean, I think 117 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:35,500 they deserve a great deal of credit for, you know, finally 118 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:39,900 breaking through and making the playoff as, you know, a group of 119 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:41,500 five team. But the fact that they're in the 120 00:07:41,508 --> 00:07:46,100 group of five and say, Louisville for instance, is in 121 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:50,100 the ACC, it kind of makes you scratch your head a little bit 122 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:52,300 because those those things don't feel like they should 123 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:55,400 necessarily be that way. People forget Cincinnati was in 124 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,700 the Big East for a pretty long period of time. 125 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:02,400 You know what a decade I yes or close to it a little under a 126 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,800 decade and you know and they had some pretty good teams, you 127 00:08:05,808 --> 00:08:07,200 know, Blaine Butch Jones had them. 128 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Ranked Brian Kelly obviously was there and and had them in the 129 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,700 top 15 somewhat regularly. I think what they were even, you 130 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:18,800 know, top five at one point under Kelly but they, You know, 131 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,100 despite going to the Orange Bowl, going to the Sugar Bowl, 132 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,600 they weirdly they feel like on their outside looking in at this 133 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,800 point even even with all of that recent history, Yeah, I mean, I 134 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:37,600 think that they are probably not top of Mind in terms of non 135 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,900 power. Five Conference teams that are I 136 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:47,000 think even Boise State probably gets more attention as being the 137 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,300 nation's darling to a certain extent, you know, BYU and Notre. 138 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:58,900 Dame are other non power, five teams that Have more cash a I 139 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:03,100 guess and are just don't have the next deck stacked against 140 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:08,100 them you mentioned, the Big East that was a huge move for 141 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,200 Cincinnati. They really thought they had 142 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,300 arrived. They had become a power 5 team 143 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 and, you know, five years after that happened. 144 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:21,000 Oops. The ACC goes, the Raiden and 145 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,000 pulls out three of the, I guess, three of them. 146 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Most Minute that the time, Big East schools and the Big East 147 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,700 says, oh well, we're just going to become a basketball 148 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:39,200 conference now and set the football playing members adrift 149 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,700 at that point. And yeah, even now they are 150 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:50,600 going to become a Power five Conference team again, I think 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,300 2024, 2025 whenever all that happens, I think I think they've 152 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:58,000 gotten out early now, so it'll be 20. 94. 153 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,900 But you know, as you talked about all summer, it's really 154 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:08,000 not the power 5 anymore. It's the Big Ten, the SEC and 155 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,300 kind of everybody else. Yeah, fending for themselves and 156 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:14,500 seeing if there's going to be some more consolidation. 157 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:17,100 So every time they've made a big step up. 158 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,000 Thank King. Okay, well, this this is it we 159 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,800 finally arrived kind of the floor drops out from under them 160 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,300 again. They do seem to be kind of an 161 00:10:26,308 --> 00:10:29,200 interesting incubator of coaches, which I think is a 162 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,400 fascinating thing about the program. 163 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,900 We mentioned. Brabus e, Brian Kelly and Butch 164 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:36,300 Jones and Luke fickle seems like at some point. 165 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:39,500 He'll go to a bigger program at this. 166 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:42,800 I don't know you've gone 13 and one you've made the playoff. 167 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,300 I don't know exactly like what you do after that or what you're 168 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:52,000 waiting for, but it is a marked at Mark, dantonio was also the 169 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,400 head coach at you see it's And we're going to just forget the 170 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,300 Tommy tuberville exist. I think that's best for 171 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:02,700 everybody, but but it is it's fascinating that this has become 172 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:07,200 a big launching off point and that it doesn't. 173 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,900 I mean, you know, despite all of these kind of back-and-forth 174 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:14,400 sorts of things, like this program has not been down for 175 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,800 more than a couple of years in a row really since what Rick 176 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,300 Minter left and you know that was 20 years ago at this point. 177 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Yeah. Well if you're looking for a 178 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,100 reason for Or that I think the best explanation I've come up 179 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:31,700 with, is that I decided I was going now. 180 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:33,600 I grew up, I was a big Cincinnati fan. 181 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,300 My parents raised me correctly. They were graduates in 61, and 182 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:40,900 64 and 1962. So, they were there. 183 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:43,700 When they won two national championships in basketball, 184 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:48,200 over Ohio State, who refused to play them in anything for 30 185 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:54,400 years. But you know, so there I was as 186 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,000 big of you. If and as you can imagine and 187 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:02,100 then I decided to come to Indiana in 1996 and we've seen 188 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:06,200 how the fortunes of both schools have kind of diverged since 189 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,300 then. So if Indiana fans are looking 190 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:11,900 for a reason to someone to blame, that would probably be 191 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:15,200 nice. I mean, the number of people 192 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:19,000 that probably need to be blamed for IU, footballs fortunes 193 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,300 really long. I'm gonna put you kind of like 194 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:24,100 two-thirds of the way back in line, not over it out of it, but 195 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:25,100 I'll put you in there. R. 196 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:28,900 Let's talk about this current Cincinnati team, you know, they 197 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:33,900 stumble in their first game against Arkansas, it wasn't a 198 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:37,500 bad loss, by any means, you're on the road, an SEC opponent, 199 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:40,400 they only lose by seven. They didn't play particularly 200 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,200 well in the game, but they still manage to keep it relatively 201 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 close. And, you know, then they blow 202 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,000 out Kennesaw State and then they have kind of a weird game last 203 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,300 week at Miami of Ohio, they Trail early and they come back. 204 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,200 They went Road. Comfortably, but maybe not as 205 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,200 comfortably as people might have. 206 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,800 I know, I certainly bet on Cincinnati, and they did not 207 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,200 cover. So, that was, that was 208 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,800 disappointing to say the least. But, you know, obviously a 209 00:13:05,808 --> 00:13:09,200 different team than last year. A lot of players from that team 210 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:12,900 are they're gone or there in the NFL or something like that. 211 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:17,500 So what does this vintage of Cincinnati football have going 212 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,300 for it? You know what is it? 213 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:21,400 What are the primary things are the primary people that you 214 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,500 would say I you fans would be looking for in this game. 215 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:32,400 I think that what they have more than anything is a culture and 216 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:38,300 the culture is that Luke fickle hasn't left the game against 217 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:42,200 Miami is always a weird one. You know that's that is Miami of 218 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,700 Ohio Super Bowl. They are playing for. 219 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,100 I think the victreebel is the oldest Trophy. 220 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:54,700 West of the Allegheny Mountains it is you know a very historic, 221 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:57,000 right? Re but obviously one, that's 222 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,800 become very much one-sided to the point where Cincinnati kind 223 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,200 of keeps talking about. Well, are we going to keep 224 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,400 playing this really do? We need to keep playing this 225 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,000 and, you know, they haven't they haven't said that out loud but 226 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:16,200 you know there's enough murmurs of like How often do we have to 227 00:14:16,208 --> 00:14:21,300 win this game, by 40 points? You know, that it becomes that 228 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:24,000 much more of a Super Bowl for Miami, right? 229 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,000 So that result I think is a little bit, you can't kind of 230 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,900 throw that out. Ultimately I you know from a 231 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:39,800 Personnel standpoint, I think that in a lot of ways, this is 232 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:46,600 the team. As opposed to a mediocre or an 233 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,900 underperforming, Big Ten school. I think the next two weeks are 234 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:57,400 going to be really interesting for Indiana because the recruits 235 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,100 that that Cincinnati is getting our nut of the Vintage that 236 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,200 Indiana is going to get physically, dominated. 237 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,600 I think, even when you saw last year, Which was by far the best 238 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,900 Cincinnati team. You know, that had has been 239 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:16,600 around and at least, you know, at least 12 15 years and 240 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,600 probably longer than that, that was a team. 241 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,300 Indiana could play with ya in a year when Indiana was not at its 242 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:27,700 best. I think this year's Indiana team 243 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:30,500 is better. I think this year's Cincinnati 244 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:37,600 team is obviously not quite to that level. but, It's an 245 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,100 execution thing that is going to keep in the keep Cincinnati. 246 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,900 Well, ahead of Indiana at this point, they're not going to 247 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:50,100 physically dominate Indiana. But in some ways because of 248 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:55,000 that, in the end, I might be able to keep up with Cincinnati 249 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:58,200 more so than, you know, I think everybody kind of pins their 250 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,500 hopes to Nebraska Nebraska should honestly, just they've 251 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:07,300 got the caliber of athlete and a caliber of player that they 252 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:11,200 should be able to run Indiana off the off the field. 253 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:14,800 The fact that they don't is whether coach got fired, but, 254 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:17,300 you know it it's a game like this. 255 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:21,700 I think that Indiana will hang around. 256 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:25,100 A lot longer than people would expect. 257 00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:29,600 Yeah, it's interesting because the, we know when the, when the 258 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,100 numbers came in on this game from a wagering perspective and 259 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:36,600 I do think there's some value in looking at that because it's a 260 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,000 lot of people think that numbers don't matter at all. 261 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,800 But it's a, it's normally a pretty good gauge of the 262 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,100 perceived quality level of both opponents. 263 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:48,300 And you know, it started off at like I think Cincinnati was at 264 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:50,500 eight and a half Point favorite in the blue and all the way to 265 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:53,100 18 and a half. It's and it's settled back down 266 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:59,500 now to wear it Cincinnati by 16 and a half points you know 267 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:05,700 that's you know it's I mean it's roughly equivalent I guess two 268 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,599 more or less where the game kind of ended up last year, was a 269 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,700 14-point game last year. So, you know, even with some of 270 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:14,500 the losses you could see the argument for Cincinnati, being 271 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,300 that good. But I think your point is well 272 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:19,000 taken. Like if you look at the grading 273 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,800 of Cincinnati players so far on the season, Like they really 274 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,800 struggled against the athleticism of Arkansas. 275 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,200 They couldn't block, you know, they really couldn't tackle. 276 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,100 They really struggled in coverage against really Speedy 277 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:33,400 players. They played much better. 278 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Obviously the last couple of weeks against more inferior 279 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,000 competition. If Indiana were to play well and 280 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,400 to the level of their talent, you know, I think you're right. 281 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,800 I think they could stick with them. 282 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,500 I do Wonder though how well we still don't know how this IU 283 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:52,900 team will travel this year like literally Figuratively. 284 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,400 And, you know, it's going up against in Cincinnati team that 285 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,500 beat them soundly last year, although didn't blow them out, 286 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,300 you know, Cincinnati's not going to be scared of playing a big 10 287 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:07,800 team at least not Indiana, maybe they'd be scared of playing 288 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,200 another Big Ten team, but but Indiana is not going to put a 289 00:18:10,208 --> 00:18:14,500 lot of fear into them. And while Indiana certainly has 290 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:21,200 some SEC light type of talent, you know, whether that's players 291 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,000 out of Data that they've recruited or players that have 292 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,200 transferred in from SEC or ACC programs. 293 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,300 It is one of those situations where they're facing, you know, 294 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:35,600 against the Cincinnati team that that really does know how to 295 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,700 play well, and probably has recalibrated after that Arkansas 296 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:41,800 game. So, I don't know. 297 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,600 We'll have to see how that goes, as you know, the IU. 298 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,700 Certainly hasn't graded a particularly well, in any of 299 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:50,600 their games either. And I do think that, you know, 300 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,800 when you look at the way that Cincinnati's grades have gone. 301 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,400 At least they are trending upward where his Indiana is, we 302 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,100 still don't know. Indiana might be a good team 303 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,300 that just hasn't shown it yet or they might be a little bit of 304 00:19:05,308 --> 00:19:09,200 Fools Gold just in terms of what they've been able to do against 305 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,500 the teams that they played. Which frankly hasn't been a 306 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:16,300 whole great deal thus far. So that's that's I think the 307 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:19,700 biggest question mark for me as we go into this game, is this 308 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:25,200 idea of you know how How does Indiana matchup against the team 309 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,600 that knows exactly what it's wanting to do and overall has 310 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,700 certainly been able to do it on a pretty consistent basis, Mike 311 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:38,700 the you know the Indiana certainly struggled, but one 312 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:40,500 against Illinois, they struggled. 313 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:44,100 But one against Western Kentucky, you know, the kind of 314 00:19:44,108 --> 00:19:48,800 picking up on on that. If it's, you know, when you look 315 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,300 at this Indiana, team's resilience and that's been the 316 00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:53,700 word that Of people have talked about Tom Allen's talked about 317 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,800 it quite a bit in his press conferences. 318 00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:00,800 We do you think belief is enough coupled with the talent 319 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,500 Indiana's, got to really be able to make a game of this and 320 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:06,100 potentially even walk in and win? 321 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:09,300 Or do you see that not really being something that bothers 322 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:11,900 Cincinnati after what they've been through the last couple of 323 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:16,800 years, I don't think that that bothers Cincinnati so much, but 324 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,400 what I think what Indiana has going for it is that this game 325 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:25,700 is a bigger opportunity for Indiana than it is for 326 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:29,600 Cincinnati. Especially you know, coming off 327 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,500 of last year, last year they came into Indiana, they were 328 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:37,000 looking to prove something they were playing a Big Ten team on 329 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 the road. It was a big 10 team that had 330 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,700 been knocked down a pig Maybe by Iowa but was still, you know, 331 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:47,700 came in the year with very high expectations. 332 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:54,900 Now we are kind of just another game on Cincinnati schedule and 333 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:58,300 I think that that's one thing that Indiana has going for it 334 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:02,700 because this is an opportunity to kind of wake up everybody to 335 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,500 what to the fact that this year is different than last year. 336 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:12,000 And I think that some of that belief, some of that confidence, 337 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:17,700 you know, is something that can build within a game and you get 338 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:21,400 to the second half of the game. And you've certainly seen many 339 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,700 opportunities where, again, if you get to a second half of a 340 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:29,900 game against Ohio, State or Michigan, and you know, 341 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:34,000 Indiana's hanging around but in hanging around in a game that 342 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,800 they don't necessarily belong in This is the Cincinnati team that 343 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,200 doesn't have that extra physical level that, you know, that we're 344 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,500 when Cincinnati or where Indiana's hanging around late in 345 00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:50,500 the game. They're not hanging on by their 346 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:53,700 fingernails against a physically superior team. 347 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,200 Yeah. And I think that that's the 348 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,600 biggest advantage that that Indiana has. 349 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,700 Yeah, it's going to be interesting. 350 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:05,700 I mean, I and I am curious as much as I'm curious about what 351 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:09,100 Cincinnati looks like in this kind of A game like you said, 352 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:15,200 where they're, they're not going to take Indiana as seriously as 353 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:17,400 probably the wrong word, but it's kind of the only word I can 354 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,200 think of that, like the way they took them last year. 355 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:23,600 You know Cincinnati coming in ranked fourth but probably still 356 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,700 feeling like they needed to prove something on the national 357 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,800 stage. Indiana, everybody thought was 358 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,100 still good at that point last year, how right how quickly that 359 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:35,400 turned around? But that is going to be an 360 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,100 interesting Factor. You know, you've watched this 361 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:39,900 Your team through three games so far. 362 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,900 What has stuck out to you? Good or bad about the way that 363 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:48,700 they've played and the way that they've been in these games, I 364 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:52,800 think it's been that a lot of what has gone wrong is is 365 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,000 fixable, I think that's the only optimistic take you. 366 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:04,700 Can you can have from the three games and I think that when 367 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:08,600 you're talking about the bare minimum of level of success, For 368 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,800 a team, like Indiana in the Big Ten, which is the bare minimum 369 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,000 is get six wins. There's a path to that. 370 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,200 And I think they're going to have to steal a game or two that 371 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,700 they don't really deserve to win, but I think that that's 372 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:29,400 possible. You know, they've gotten lucky 373 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,900 certainly to win the games that they've to win all the games 374 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:37,500 that they won, they've certainly gotten themselves up to the 375 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:41,200 Cliff's Edge. Far more often than we'd like. 376 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,800 But I think that that does that winning those games, does it 377 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,500 gives you a certain sense of invincibility? 378 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:59,900 And I think that that is why especially this game, you know, 379 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:04,700 if you get to it, close to it to where it's closed at the end, 380 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:11,100 you've got a shot because You can tell yourself whether it's 381 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:15,000 right or wrong. We've been here before we, you 382 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,600 know, if we're down 14 points at the start of the fourth quarter, 383 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:23,700 we've done that and it's a better opponent obviously and 384 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,900 they'll have to execute much more sharply and they'll have to 385 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,500 play better to only be down, 14 points at the beginning of the 386 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:34,600 fourth quarter, but all of those things are things that they are 387 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,200 capable of doing. Yeah, now it's true. 388 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 I mean, it feels weird think about. 389 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,200 I you as, you know, underachieving or maybe just 390 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,200 not, not not not taking advantage of opportunities. 391 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200 But it's like, you don't, if you can come back and win at the 392 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,400 end, against Western, Kentucky or against Illinois. 393 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Clearly, like there's something there that you can take 394 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,100 advantage of and maybe elevate your game in something like 395 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,900 this. It's just weird to me, maybe. 396 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:04,700 Well, weirds the wrong word, but it is kind of its peculiar in a 397 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:09,800 way that I use to keep He woken up in the fourth quarter and 398 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,700 then that does concern me a bit because I think you can, you do 399 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:17,000 somewhat get away with that in a home game against a mid-level 400 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,100 competition. But even with what they've lost 401 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400 I think, you know, and the and even you can point to some of 402 00:25:22,408 --> 00:25:26,100 the talent disparity and and, you know, Cincinnati not having 403 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,600 like perhaps better Talent necessarily from a ratings 404 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,600 perspective than I you. But that's it's a real concern. 405 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,800 If you're going on the road and facing a team that knows what 406 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,800 they're doing, When you're an Indiana team, that at least for 407 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,600 half of the game so far or half of each of the games, maybe has 408 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,400 shown that. It doesn't quite know what it's 409 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,200 doing. Yeah, there's a professionalism 410 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,200 that Luke fickle has brought to the, you see Team. 411 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:58,300 I think that the experience that Indiana has an incoming bag. 412 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,200 I think is is counterbalanced by the experience that you see has 413 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,700 in plain teams that it should be and, you know, it I guess if 414 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:13,000 there's anything that the AAC has been good for for Cincinnati 415 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,700 is that it's given them, a lot of experience on. 416 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,700 Here's what, here's how you put away in fear, you're sitting 417 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,100 here, you know, and here's what happens. 418 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,200 When here's what you do. When you're in a game that, you 419 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,300 know, with the team that you should be beating pretty 420 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:31,200 handily. And I think they probably feel 421 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,000 like they should beat Indiana handily. 422 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:38,800 But You know, there's the professionalism, that that Luke 423 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,400 fickle has brought, they're not going to take since take Indiana 424 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,000 lightly, right? But it's not the level of 425 00:26:45,008 --> 00:26:49,000 motivation they had. For, for the, for the IU fans, 426 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,100 that are heading down to nippert for this game. 427 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,100 What advice would you give them anything? 428 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,300 They need to be? Keeping an eye out for or 429 00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:57,500 anything. You would advise them to to get 430 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,900 into. Um, you know, the nippert 431 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 stadium is a really cool place to watch a game. 432 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,300 I think that they've refurbished it and it is, you know, just a 433 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,400 really cool old stadium. I think it's been open since 434 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:17,100 since the 20s to be honest. And just, you know, to take in 435 00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:21,600 the whole experience, they've made a much better experience 436 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:30,200 out of the whole game day around around. 437 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:36,100 The Bearcats as pretty much everybody has over the last 20 438 00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,500 years. It's become much more of a 439 00:27:37,508 --> 00:27:42,800 production, but it used to be again, going back to the bad old 440 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,900 days. Even when they got themselves 441 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:51,000 back into Nipper, it was get yourself to the, get yourself 442 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,700 into the stadium, get yourself out. 443 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,100 And hope that your car still has four tires on it. 444 00:27:55,500 --> 00:28:01,000 When you're leaving, you know, the area around nippert Stadium. 445 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,300 Is much better in terms of just an overall overall experience 446 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,000 got it? Yeah. 447 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,400 The Cincinnati Zoo is nearby. I notice that's that's I don't 448 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600 know if that's it. The William Howard Taft. 449 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200 National Historic Site is nearby. 450 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,200 I'm not sure if these are things. 451 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,900 People should be going to. But with your, if you're going, 452 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,600 where are you stopping to eat or drink before the game, where are 453 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:33,300 you Get yourself some Skyline Chili. 454 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,400 Oh my God, it's really funny. Actually and and I remember I 455 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,900 sent you a kind of a thing for the getae which is also another 456 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:46,100 Cincinnati. Yes, kind of delicacy and the 457 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:50,900 recipe says it's not much to look at but trust me. 458 00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:54,800 It tastes really good and I thought is there any Cincinnati 459 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,700 food specialty, that doesn't begin with that disclaimer it? 460 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:03,000 Look very good, but trust me, maybe maybe the beer which 461 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 probably doesn't count as a food item. 462 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,400 But, yeah, that's wow. That's quite a, that's quite an 463 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,900 advertised it. Well, you know, it should be an 464 00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:16,800 interesting game to say the least and I'm quite curious to 465 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,500 see how this plays out. I tend to think I kind of I'm 466 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:25,100 kind of in the same boat as you. I get the feeling I you is going 467 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,200 to stick around a bit. They might even have an early 468 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,000 lead. It does kind of feel like it's 469 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 got the Hallmarks of the game that I you could eventually get 470 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,900 kind of get ground down in, as Cincinnati, kind of figures out 471 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:40,100 what they need to do throughout the course of the game. 472 00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:43,000 But nothing would surprise me in this one, you know, I mean, I 473 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,400 could see, I could see how you getting blown out by 30. 474 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:48,700 I could also see them sticking around and, you know, having a 475 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:52,500 shot to win it at the end. It's, it's one of those. 476 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:56,800 It's a weird game to because a win in this game, kind of 477 00:29:56,808 --> 00:29:58,600 completely transforms. Indiana. 478 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,100 See, And as you mentioned your kind of alluded to earlier 479 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,000 because at that point it's like why you gosh it's now you got 480 00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:08,900 you got you know, Nebraska Marilyn Rutgers and Purdue and 481 00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:12,600 you only need two wins out of that those four to get to bowl 482 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,100 eligibility. Whereas if you lose the game, 483 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,000 you need three wins out of that group. 484 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,800 And and, you know, with a couple of those games being on the 485 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400 road, it seems somewhat less likely given how Indiana 486 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,700 normally plays on the road? But yeah, I mean, it clearly 487 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,900 Cincinnati not going back to the playoffs this year. 488 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,800 So I am interested to see how they perform, since they don't 489 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,200 have the, I mean they came in what rank fourth last year? 490 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,100 I think in that game, clearly, they knew they were playing for 491 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,100 something big. Maybe they don't feel like 492 00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,900 they're playing for stepping quite as big because quite 493 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:49,300 frankly, they're not well, well, yeah, not only, is there not the 494 00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:52,700 reward at the end? They are, you know, they're 495 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,900 there is no way they look at what it at playing Indiana, you 496 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:03,500 know in this As they did last year, you know, it's the way 497 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,600 that the decks again kind of going back to the same theme, I 498 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,500 am really glad that Cincinnati was able to make the playoff 499 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,300 plus here but it really would have been fitting if the fact 500 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:18,300 that's that Indiana tanks the way they did was the reason that 501 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:22,500 Cincinnati did not get ya get into the playoff that really 502 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:27,900 would have kind of cemented Cincinnati's. 503 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:32,400 Well Well, earned gripe against the whole college football 504 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,400 establishment. I mean, hey, if you can't 505 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,000 schedule properly seven years in advance and what are you even 506 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,300 doing right? Well, yeah, exactly. 507 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,500 Well Mike, anything else you'd like to touch on before we wrap 508 00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,500 up? No, I think that covers it. 509 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:48,800 Everybody should check out my Twitter thread on on here. 510 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,700 Cincinnati though that I haven't gotten blocked by nearly enough 511 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:54,900 people. So obviously not enough people 512 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:57,400 have read that. We definitely need to get Mike 513 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,700 blocked by as many of you as possible. 514 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:07,700 Sybil Mike, your Twitter account is, I am th e, MD P, I'm the mdp 515 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:14,400 and yes, he has a 13 tweet thread going about Cincinnati's 516 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,400 fight song that I highly highly recommend, and I think if you 517 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,200 get through all of that tweet at Mike, he might record himself 518 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,200 singing the song and you can listen to that before you block 519 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,400 him. And then Everybody will be 520 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,700 happy. Well, right if you get me 521 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:33,800 singing, I will definitely get Block. 522 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,500 There you go. That tape that that will and I 523 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:42,100 will deserve it Mike Mike Petrie once again joining us here in 524 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,900 Crimson cast. Mike always great to talk with 525 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:45,900 you. Good luck to you and thanks to 526 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:50,000 all you folks for listening in IU takes on Cincinnati on 527 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,800 National Television, 3:30 on ESPN2, we'll keep an eye out for 528 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,900 that and be watching that and probably have some commentary 529 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,400 during the game and Definitely have come Terry coming up on 530 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600 Sunday morning so be sure to tune back in for that. 531 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,700 Catch you folks on the flip side, bring back the Bison. 532 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,500 So long everybody.