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Welcome back to Crimson casts 
Gaelic labios got Caulfield 

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joining. 
You it is Monday March. 6th in 

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the night, we're doing some 
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Crimson casting here. 
There's Cast after dark. 

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So what you all tuned in for 
anyway, we were going to podcast

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yesterday, but Scott was still 
dealing with the emotional 

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trauma of having to sit through 
that entire game in person. 

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So, we decided to give him 24 
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him to the, yeah, yeah. 
Well, you know why actions, 

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really? 
It's more for the audience. 

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It's not for you. 
I because I, you know, we care 

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about our audience and we just 
want to make sure that they're 

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not exposed to unfiltered Scott 
because that's not me, it's 

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right. 
Yeah that all on my laps yes. 

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So but anyway well we're going 
to talk IU IU finishes with a 

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double by and is in the Big Ten 
Tournament is the three seed. 

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We're going to talk about how 
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We're going to talk about the 
process and we're going to talk 

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about the Big Ten Tournament as 
that starts pretty soon. 

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I you not going to plead a 
Friday night, but the Big Ten 

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Tournament itself starts on 
Wednesday. 

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So we're not that far away. 
It is Conference tournament 

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season and Scott, I'm excited. 
I've already got to see, 

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Louisiana. 
Knock off South Alabama. 

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I'm watching Furman about to get
in by knocking off Chattanooga. 

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Youngstown States, getting 
obliterated about 20 miles away 

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from where you're sitting right 
now. 

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It's the time of the year, man. 
That's the Time of the Season. 

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I'm excited about it. 
How are you doing? 

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I'm doing great. 
I'm doing great. 

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Yeah, I know and it starts in 
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tomorrow is a biggie starts, 
right? 

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Yeah. 
No ACC I believe well maybe the 

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Big East might but I know you 
might hear a see. 

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There might be one big East game
but I know the ACC like the the 

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crap end of ACC like, you know, 
Boston College is playing on 

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Tuesday and you know that like 
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College, like we can always 
count on Boston cop. 

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I don't think there's been a 
year where they haven't been in 

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one of those three Tuesday 
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They're always terrible. 
And they're always fascinating 

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at the same time the next two 
weeks are just awesome. 

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Like this is kind of like my 
Christmas Eve, it's fantastic. 

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And the only thing that's it's 
so amazing. 

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The only the only bad part about
it is like too much like in In 

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two weeks that first Monday 
were, it's like, wow, there's no

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basketball on at 2:00, like it's
like we're back to know like 

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Price is Right is back all of 
which I love, but it's like you 

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go the next two weeks or you're 
just like I can turn on any 

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channel at any time and there's 
an elimination or a almost 

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elimination game going on, or 
actually all elimination games 

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is fantastic and just basketball
wall-to-wall. 

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Yeah. 
So it's I'm I love this time of 

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year, it's just it's great. 
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So we are we got to be Alden it.
Like, and we need to be in the 

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right now. 
That's it's yeah, honestly, I 

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was talking with the exact 
singer. 

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Who does the bracket racket 
podcast with me? 

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Occasionally and we're yeah, 
he's a Yukon guy. 

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I'm an Indiana guy. 
It's this time of year is so 

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much better when you actually 
got a good team that is in the 

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mix that isn't like hanging on 
by his fingernails, trying to 

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get into the field like not 
having to all of this stuff 

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about like what can I you get to
the three or could they drop to 

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a five? 
I'm like, There have been years 

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when I would have like, you 
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for like a 10 seed. 
You know, to be in this position

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early years where I've had like 
it's feel so dirty when you're 

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like nit Bracketology and it's 
about it's like this is almost 

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like, you know, Silk Road. 
Like I'm not sure this is I 

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should be doing this on my work 
computer. 

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I, it's I it's one of those, 
it's one of those things that's 

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like the I love the guy that 
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is I own father. 
A lot of them. 

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It's not like a slow. 
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I mean I think it's like three. 
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be. 
I forget what the guys name is. 

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I follow him on Twitter and he 
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That I mean it's like he was 
updating last night because he's

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like well, you know, I think 
Nebraska you know, not be an 

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outside shot of getting in and 
stalking about how Eastern 

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Washington getting upset in the 
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a spot to go west for somebody 
else. 

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I mean I love that but God I'm 
glad I'm not in that 

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conversation right now is an IU 
fan. 

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I mean goodness. 
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So anyway, first of all, before 
we get launched here, just to 

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remind her that home field 
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doing the work, the community. 

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All of that stuff. 
You can certainly Avail yourself

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of the community. 
You should check it out, but you

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Again that's Home2 And Scott as 
we know this is home Fields, 

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time to shine. 
They put all kinds of cool stuff

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out. 
They just dropped another hat 

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that has the whole Yukon fan 
base of flitter. 

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Which is, I mean that's not a 
hard fan base to set a flitter 

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but there's other, you know, I 
don't even know what they're 

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planning. 
They don't tell me, they just, I

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think their whole thing is, 
let's put stuff out on Twitter 

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and let's have Galen and Scott 
react because they're probably 

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going to love it. 
And then we do, it's great stuff

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all the way around, and I keep 
seeing teams. 

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That I know I'm from home field 
that are winning games in their 

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conference tournaments it's just
getting me more excited for 

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March. 
Yep well you just bought USC 

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stuff, right? 
I did about it buddy u.s. see 

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who gets a future. 
I know Big Ten but I you heard 

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my moral dilemma when I 
purchased that but I feel like 

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you know it's kind I could just 
buy a red Indiana hoodie but 

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it's like well there's times 
when I don't necessarily always 

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want to like sport the script or
whatever, you know, I need to, 

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you know, shake it up a little 
bit just for variety's sake. 

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So yeah. 
I was I was just searching. 

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You know there's already five 
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Yeah. 
And you know random selection 

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home field has I didn't check 
all of them, they have Drake. 

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So looking at Drake like just 
obviously random, they have a 

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great Drake real a shirt a 
really good drink, Bulldog 

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hoodie. 
So yeah and as teams fill in 

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there will be more and more home
field teams to pick from. 

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So get a drake shirt, get a 
drake shirt, the Bulldogs if you

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and if you can if you can tell 
us without looking where Drake 

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is geographically, you get a 
special A prize. 

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I can't tell you what it is, but
you get a special price anyway, 

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let's dive in let's talk, IU 
basketball. 

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So the Hoosiers they finish 12 
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finish eighth and to at home, 
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This is an IU team that, you 
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as they closed out the season as
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And at one point had a winning 
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were leading by 27 to 13 with 
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left in the first half and 
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19-2 to run and gradually built 
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they were up, what was it? 
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to forty two. 
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12-point Mark and Scott, I don't
know what it was like in the 

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arena, but I can tell you at, 
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It was not Pleasantville. 
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like the sum of all fears of IU,
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of those games where it feels 
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first, Iowa game, where it felt 
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And then everything went 
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seen them do this and it seems 
highly unlikely they're going to

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pull themselves out of it and 
what was it like in the moment 

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for you? 
It got really tense, you know, 

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like it that's well Assembly 
Hall really, you know, it kind 

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of lost its Mojo with the team. 
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started the second half as 
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mission started, pounding it 
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And then I'm with, as you drink 
watch time and they had another 

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friend out of the front Factory 
buddy day and he's ambitious. 

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He's a Michigan grad and I have 
some good stories of what he was

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saying in a sec, but like I said
this and it's like, you know, 

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100 Dickinson, hit a three and 
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the three sign down and he's II 
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I kind of, I mean he's fun to 
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like he just He cracks me up 
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way anyway, but I was saying 
like, you can't let Hunter 

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Dickinson get going and then 
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going and then, you know, jet 
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And this is why Michigan's scary
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a couple other people before the
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the most talented team in the 
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And it's also one of maybe the 
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have, you know, bump get buff 
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Howard is kind of that. 
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hundred tickets seems like the 
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You can pop out and hit threes, 
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across the board. 
It's a lot of talent, but I was,

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I was getting nervous because we
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malaise mode and we were just 
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But, you know, we, you have to 
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They just kind of put themselves
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know, for as much as sometimes 
people are like, you know, Trace

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isn't a leader and he does isn't
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who's going to yell and scream 
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You could see it where he was 
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I need the ball and when Hunter 
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like I'm taking this over and 
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He's like I'm going to score and
like and then you can see his 

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defense pick up. 
You definitely saw it with race 

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Thompson and my buddy, Danny 
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it gets within that? 
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he's like we will not close this
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Like, we do not have the ability
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will be I said it before he's 
like there's going to be four or

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five end of game situations that
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enough you know Michigan had 
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win the game. 
Indiana played really good 

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defense on some of those the 
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They just threw the things 
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But you know, Indiana came up. 
And I read later, you know where

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race Thompson said, like, you 
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game and you definitely saw it 
with his defense, you know, 

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getting some huge steals down 
the end and I'm 4. 

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A variety of reasons I'm happy 
but I'm also just really happy 

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that we won because race did so 
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that game. 
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If we had lost based on the fact
that he missed a couple free 

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throws because he did do so much
and you really just miss those 

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free throws because he was 
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But it's like it was it was 
agonizing and then it's got 

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close. 
It was like we you know but yeah

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those are it got tight but I 
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like they got fired up and it 
was a it was a very, very fun 

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atmosphere. 
Glad to hear that, it was 

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miserable to watch on 
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It will, I mean I you know, 
here's the thing, I wish I said 

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I think I said this before, like
in the in the podcast we did 

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before like it'd be great if I 
you it just some point would 

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just do something easy for 
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Do it easy for themselves, do it
easy for the fans, like don't 

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don't surrender a 14-point lead 
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deficit. 
Don't forget how to play 

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defense. 
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that this is one of those games 
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this season, and and this kind 
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we've watched in real-time with 
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there's no question that we've 
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Even last year, this team lose 
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fundamental flaws in the way 
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from a personal perspective, is 
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contributions? 
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where this team still gets the 
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inopportune times? 
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it's one thing to talk about and
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has proven that they can fight 
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in the moment in that type of a 
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that had to be exhausted playing
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you know, having played in an 
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for Michigan to look Lively. 
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the table to play for senior 
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guess it was senior late 
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Big Ten Tournament after 
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in their favor, leading up to 
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strong. 
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like, yeah, we're no, we're 
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this team surrender leads 
before, but that one felt 

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particularly bad because it felt
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became too big for them. 
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underachieved significantly this
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coaching Acumen. 
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what Howard tends to do with 
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the way that they did and 
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you know, a 26-point run in 
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Michigan. 
It's really disappointing. 

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They did fight their way back 
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seniors that play the most that 
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So I mean you know Miller cop 
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but managed to hit you know a 
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have been a three but ended up 
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never changed it on television. 
Until it was like it wasn't even

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mentioned that it because like I
remember going into a one of the

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free-throw setups and it's like 
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I look up and I you had a 
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what what happened? 
But cop you hit a couple of key.

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Shots down the stretch cop had 
seven rebounds. 

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He made some defensive hustle 
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Indiana, get back into it, you 
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Trace Jackson Davis, you know, 
another twenty seven and nine 

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and six. 
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right. 
Thompson, as you said. 

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I mean, he made so many key 
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he missed the four free throws. 
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the end of not quite at the end 
of regulation, but whatever that

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was. 
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key steals, he made some key 
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hustle plays and you know, it's 
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the one hand you can ask 
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take getting down 12 after 
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Team to kick everybody back into
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Like why, why did that have to 
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But the fact that they did 
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get themselves back into it 
really was heartening and it 

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shows a continued development 
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It's just it is such a kick in 
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well and then just stop playing 
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multiple occasions, you know, 
over the last month or so and it

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does to I think a large degree 
make you wonder like Like why 

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does that have to be part of 
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But on the flip side? 
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are at this point and I think 
the next time we see them play a

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really dominant game from start 
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that Purdue game at Purdue and 
you're like why can't that be 

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the norm as opposed to being the
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answer with this particular 
roster. 

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Well to answer your question of 
like what why does this the 

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malaises kind of happen? 
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what you said, it's a 
combination of all. 

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Those things. 
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need to belabor it because we 
talked about it all year and 

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it's obviously not changing. 
But, you know, this is something

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that will need to be looked at 
in the offseason and kind of 

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moving forward is, you know, 
most of these runs with other 

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teams like I mentioned you know,
it was a couple twos here and 

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there but then like then 
Dickinson hit a three and then 

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you know they stopped us and 
like jet Howard hits a three. 

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It's like normally these runs 
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hitting threes and then we just 
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And, you know, we only met 8530 
we shot 15 but you know part of 

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what stops these runs but is you
know, you papa three, it's like,

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you know, you're down by 10, you
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five, you hit a three, you know,
it's now eight like that's how I

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know kidding. 
So math works but you know with 

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a Scott has been doing 
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He's really what I wanted to 
show this off for the audience. 

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Sorry go ahead. 
We're a three threes can just 

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kind of Kickstart things and 
really you know, help stem the 

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tide and we just don't do that. 
And like you mentioned Purdue 

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game. 
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of Threes that game but it's 
like everything's running at Top

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Notch for that game and you got 
jail,' know having a great game 

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from, you know, mid-range and so
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But, you know, this is when 
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12 in the first half, we don't 
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eight more points like that. 
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going to take us, probably three
to four minutes to get there and

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that gives the other team time. 
And so it's a flaw with this 

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team that again, we can get off 
of it now. 

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But like, that's I think that's 
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even we get leads, other teams, 
come back is because other teams

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start just firing threes. 
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down that we saw against Iowa, 
it's not in our DNA. 

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And so it allows us I think to 
be susceptible to not being able

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to push leads a little bit more 
than they should and giving that

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opening for other teams and it 
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and it makes it harder for us to
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But you know, 22 I use credit 
they stem the tide and they claw

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Had their way back in this game.
But like I said, that's 

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something. 
I'd love to see a little bit 

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change next year where we can 
just start firing a couple more 

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threes because that it just it 
makes such a difference. 

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And I will say, I mean the other
the other factor is just the 

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near total lack of Normal 
offensive contributions coming 

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off, the bench is a real problem
and it's funny because it was 

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both the problem and the 
solution in this game against 

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Michigan. 
You know? 

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I mean tomorrow Bates had a 
really bad first half Malik 

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renew you contributed a little 
bit but didn't really make up 

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for the points that were sitting
on the bench. 

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And then Kayla Banks actually I 
thought gave a pretty good 

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defensive ever. 
He I think he ended up being 

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like a plus 10 in the game, 
despite not scoring a point. 

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And it was largely because I 
mean, he was often times in 

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there, when Dickinson wasn't in 
there, which kind of correlated.

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But, you know, we've talked 
about this a lot like IU is a 

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team that essentially only has 
about five and a half players 

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and you never know who the half 
player is and especially with 

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Jordan Geronimo seemingly out. 
Indefinitely with this injury 

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that I'm assuming is the same 
injury he had before, it's hard 

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to say and with the Mercurial 
nature of Tamar Bates on off, 

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And sand with Malik renew 
struggling with foul trouble. 

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I mean Kayla Banks emerging in 
the rotations, been in the Sessa

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T, not a strategic decision that
I think Woodson would have made.

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So I think that certainly 
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It's just tough though because 
the when you think about the way

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that the team has been 
constructed that's its you can't

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really avoid it and it's one of 
its. 

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One of the things that makes the
Xavier Johnson absence so keenly

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felt Out. 
And then, when you have a game 

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like this one, where Trey 
Galloway, who's been such a 

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steady performer down, the 
stretch, has, you know, probably

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his worst game of the season, 
fouls out after only playing 25 

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minutes that just that just, you
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So, you know, from my 
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frustrating in the moment. 
You step back, you get some 

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perspective and you're like, 
look, this is just how this team

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is, and despite their tendency, 
to do this. 

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They've won, they won 12 out of 
20 games in the conference, they

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won 21 games in the regular, 
Season. 

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And I think at the even without 
Xavier Johnson, being out for a 

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century, the entire Big Ten 
season. 

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If you had given that 2 IU fans,
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they probably would have said 
we'll take that, you know, a 

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double by in the Big Ten 
tournament and being able to 

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outlast teams like Michigan or 
some of the other teams at IU is

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outlasted here over the last 
month. 

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Those are good accomplishments 
by and large, Indiana ends up, 

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finishing the season, you know, 
winning what they want to 11 and

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4. 
In their last 15 games in the 

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Big Ten. 
And that's a, that's a hell of 

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an accomplishment for a team 
that is down a senior starter 

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and doesn't have much bench 
depth. 

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And I mean, I mean, I would say 
this and I've had one of my 

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friends, tell me this all year 
cats. 

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This is kind of grown was like 8
and 1 or whatever. 

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It's like, you know, 11 for hard
stop. 

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I'll take that at any point in 
any Big Ten season. 

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Yeah, I'm like that, that is a 
great 15-game stretch. 

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I think that needs to be kind of
remembered talk about. 

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Like I am not. 
To go through it now but I mean 

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I don't know the last maybe 2016
they had a pretty good run but 

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you know there's only been a 
couple of times in the last 20 

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years we've had an 11 and 4 run.
Yeah. 

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That's that is not nothing. 
Yeah. 

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I mean that very good run and I 
would say almost any year going 

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into the year if you said hey 
we're going to go 11 and 4 and a

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15-game stretch in the Big Ten. 
I think, unless we just have a 

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number one ranked team I'm 
taking that so that that needs 

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to be really like just 
highlighted Solutely. 

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I mean, you know, the, you know,
the 2013 team I think, you know,

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they finished the year on a. 
No, I think they were what were 

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they 10, and 3 in their last 14 
games? 

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You know? 
And so and they were and if you 

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add the two previous, they ended
up finishing 11 and for the 2016

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team when did had a better run. 
Certainly, but that was the, you

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know, those are the only couple 
of years where you've seen 

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Indiana even win more than 11. 
Games in the conference. 

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I mean, even that 2012 team only
won 11 games in the conference. 

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So I'm looking at 2009 it. 
So yeah, no, let's not do that. 

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No, no 2009 didn't happen. 
Remember. 

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We decided that. 
But no. 

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So look this puts on you in an 
interesting position because now

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they enter the Big Ten 
Tournament. 

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I don't think you can say 
anything. 

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But for e and the game just have
to say less. 

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It's I've always said it, I 
stand by it. 

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Had Gordon. 
Hayward shot gone down. 

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Yeah, Duke best game. 
They best shot in the history of

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basketball. 
This is not at that level but 

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man, what a way to end his 
career if that Trace 3 had gone 

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down and that was really close. 
Like that was damn near as like 

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Gordon Hayward shot. 
Close. 

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You know, I had a bet with 
somebody the beginning of the 

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year like Trace, you know, 
wouldn't hit a 3-2 win a game. 

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And he had these videos like 
this to a tray that kind of a 

442
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joke. 
I was like, I'm cashing that if 

443
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,900
that gone in like I'm cashing 
that that would have just just 

444
00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:20,100
want to say like that's one of 
those. 

445
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,100
We always talk about the old 
Depot dunk. 

446
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,900
That was missed or, you know, 
the Galway dunk that would have 

447
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:27,200
blown the roof off Mackey like 
that that missed shot is going 

448
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,300
to. 
I'm going to remember that for a

449
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:31,700
while like his first made three 
this season and that would have 

450
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,800
been just a hell of a way to end
it. 

451
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,200
I do have to mention that it is 
interesting because that ends up

452
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,200
being, you know, it's funny that
did not. 

453
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:44,500
I don't think that made it onto 
the official stat sheet. 

454
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,300
I'm looking at it right now. 
Ken Palm still doesn't have a 

455
00:23:47,308 --> 00:23:51,000
mate at a three-point attempt 
from Tres Jackson, Davis, So did

456
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,400
that just get missed in the post
game box score? 

457
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,300
Now, I'm starting to wonder 
because it was it was a lot of 

458
00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:00,400
he turned and shot in point 
seven seconds so that which I 

459
00:24:00,408 --> 00:24:02,300
wasn't sure with Posse, you know
what the Yeah. 

460
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:05,100
The official box does not have a
three-point attempt for Trace 

461
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,000
Dragon. 
Davis at all, maybe they said it

462
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,600
wouldn't have counted. 
I don't know, I guess, but it, 

463
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000
he got it off. 
I mean, it was clearly out of 

464
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,100
his hand, with two tenths of a 
second left, so maybe they did 

465
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,800
waive it up. 
That's fascinating, but no, your

466
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,400
it. 
And you know what? 

467
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:21,800
Irritates me. 
Not just at that barely missed 

468
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,100
because that you're right, that 
would have been. 

469
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:26,100
That would have been an all-time
IU basketball shot. 

470
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:29,200
It would have been a reverse 
reverse Plavix, I think we would

471
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,200
call that. 
But the if you think about it 

472
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,700
that's the second one of those 
this year that Indiana's barely 

473
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:39,100
missed because you know, had one
at Northwestern correct you 

474
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,800
know. 
Maybe he hits that if they don't

475
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800
shoot off the damn confetti 
cannons you know while the game 

476
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,100
still going that should have 
still been a technical foul. 

477
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:49,100
Anyway, I'm not still dwelling 
on that at all, but no. 

478
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:52,100
Yeah that's Look at just a 
couple of the things to note. 

479
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:55,700
I mean tomorrow Bates, deserves 
credit as rough as his stretch 

480
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:59,600
has been. 
You know, if you look back over 

481
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,100
the course of the last gosh, you
have to go the two threes. 

482
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:08,600
He hit in the Michigan game. 
Where the first two threes he 

483
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,200
had hit the first three. 
He'd hit since February 7th at 

484
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,900
home versus Rutgers where he hit
13 and he had. 

485
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,300
So he had gone one, two, three, 
four, five, six, seven games. 

486
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:24,300
Without hitting a Three-pointer.
And he ended up settling down 

487
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,500
after what was kind of a jumpy 
first half. 

488
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:30,000
We've been critical of Tamar, 
but that was a game. 

489
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Indiana had to have him show up,
especially when Galloway, got 

490
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,100
that foul and he did and I've 
been critical of them because I 

491
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,800
feel like he's at Poston bees 
deserve the criticism. 

492
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,400
It's not. 
Yeah. 

493
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,200
Isn't it unfair? 
It's not that he's not hitting 

494
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,500
shots like he at he actively 
takes things away and this is 

495
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:47,100
where like when he came in there
that was crunch time and it was 

496
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,400
45 minutes to go. 
He played the rest of the game. 

497
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,700
He played all Although over time
and I can't think of a play down

498
00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:55,900
the stretch where it's like, man
tomorrow, you know, screwed up 

499
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:58,500
on defense or took that away. 
The, he he played exactly the 

500
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:00,900
role that you need him to play 
which is don't take anything off

501
00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:03,600
the table. 
And just be a, you know, be part

502
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
of the team and feed the right 
guys on offense. 

503
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,600
And it's it is frustrating cause
you're like man like you did it 

504
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,500
basically for 10-12 minutes in 
massive crunch time. 

505
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:17,700
Why can't you do it for five 
minutes in the middle of the 

506
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:19,900
middle of the game but maybe 
maybe this unlocks. 

507
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:22,700
It, we're now he's like hey 
that's that's what I need to do.

508
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,500
And I need to kind of calm it 
down but no all credit to him 

509
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,300
and we needed that because it 
was crunch time, it was over 

510
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,200
time. 
Yeah. 

511
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,800
And and just I have to say, 
sitting with my buddy Danny it's

512
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,000
like tough. 
Not to make fun of it, but it 

513
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:38,000
there was a part where it's like
all of these end of game 

514
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600
situations and like I felt 
really comfortable knowing that 

515
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,100
a we were going to have good 
defense again. 

516
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,300
Again we've been saying this a 
lot here at the end of the 

517
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,400
season like all credit to 
Woodson for changing of Defense 

518
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,900
bringing Most of to Dickinson 
bringing it at different angles,

519
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,600
but also, like there is a bit of
a Checkers chess. 

520
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,700
Think you're. 
It's like, I don't and I'm never

521
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:01,600
the one who's like, I'm smarter 
than these guys are. 

522
00:27:01,608 --> 00:27:03,200
These guys know what they're 
doing, but there are times 

523
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,300
you're watching. 
Howard and Michigan at the end 

524
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:07,900
of games, like, I don't know 
what you guys are running. 

525
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:10,600
I really don't know what the 
plan here is, and it doesn't 

526
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,800
look like anybody really knows 
or has a plan. 

527
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,900
Well, I mean, it's like, it felt
very comforting knowing, like 

528
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,200
they're running end of game 
situations. 

529
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,200
I agree. 
You know, it's fascinating to me

530
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,400
because the same thing happened 
in the game against Indiana up 

531
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,000
at Ann Arbor and you know and 
yet somehow they beat, what was 

532
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,500
it? 
Wisconsin a couple of days ago, 

533
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:35,900
you know, when Wisconsin screwed
up at the end. 

534
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:38,100
So it's because Danny was 
telling me he's like, dude, like

535
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,600
Illinois, the game against you 
guys like Virginia. 

536
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,900
He's reading all things we've 
he's like we've had the final 

537
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,100
shot like in eight games this 
year and we've lost all of them.

538
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:50,600
Well and look and for IU fans 
who always felt like You know, 

539
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,100
that was their lot in life with 
Archie Miller and Tom. 

540
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:57,100
Crane, if we're being honest, 
it's like to have a coach like 

541
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,500
Woodson and you can criticize 
Woodson for whatever you want to

542
00:28:00,508 --> 00:28:04,700
criticize him on. 
But his end of game strategies 

543
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:08,200
have been pretty damn good. 
Over the course of the two 

544
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200
seasons that we've had em. 
I mean, there's been a couple of

545
00:28:10,208 --> 00:28:13,100
games where things have gotten 
messed up, but I mean, you look 

546
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,000
back over the course of IU 
season, like, you know, they 

547
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,700
almost beat Northwestern at 
Northwestern and it literally 

548
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,600
took Bowie. 
Like committing like assault on 

549
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,100
Trey, Galloway to get open for 
the shot, that they made their 

550
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Mist, the missed shot. 
Thanks to the confetti cannon, 

551
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,500
right? 
That. 

552
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:33,400
Yeah, you know, and I mean, I 
mean, I've honestly memory, hold

553
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,700
the end of the game at Iowa. 
So I actually have no 

554
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:39,000
recollection about how that 
ended, but the overall, like, if

555
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,300
I use going to lose its 
generally by a pretty 

556
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,800
significant margin and they do a
really good job in these any 

557
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200
game situation, and you can go 
back like the game at Michigan. 

558
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,100
Absolutely. 
Qualifies the game at home 

559
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:49,900
versus Illinois. 
The game at home. 

560
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:54,400
Purdue the game at home versus 
Rutgers the game at Minnesota 

561
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,000
which people took for granted 
that, you know that like you 

562
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,900
should have blown out, Minnesota
member how people were 

563
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:00,900
complaining about that and then 
you turn around and it's like, 

564
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,500
well, gosh Rutgers plots that 
Minnesota and Wisconsin almost 

565
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,400
lost at Minnesota that ended up 
being a pretty good win over. 

566
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,100
Also. 
Yes, game is a beer. 

567
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,200
The game is Xavier. 
Yeah, I was there is another 

568
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,900
good example. 
So my hat tip to Mike Woodson 

569
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,900
and and I think you see the 
difference there between what 

570
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:22,000
he's been able to do and what 
What Michigan is one of the more

571
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,300
inexplicable teams to me in the 
conference because their numbers

572
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,400
aren't that bad, they do certain
things really well, but they've 

573
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,300
lost some truly inexplicable 
games this year against teams, 

574
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:34,900
that they shouldn't have lost 
to. 

575
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:37,600
And they've also against teams 
that they're about equal with 

576
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,200
they've struggled in a lot of 
those as well. 

577
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,200
So, anyway, so Big Ten 
Tournament. 

578
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,600
As you know, I you Has a few 
days off, which is great. 

579
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,900
You know, they play on Sunday. 
They don't have to play again 

580
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,500
till Friday and they don't play 
till the end of the day on 

581
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:56,400
Friday and they match up against
what we don't know yet, who 

582
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,500
will, they play? 
But one thing I want to say 

583
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:03,100
there was a fascinating stat 
floating around that, someone 

584
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,800
dredged back up. 
Again from the college 

585
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,800
basketball subreddit and it had 
the Big Ten standings from the 

586
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
day after Indiana loss to Penn 
State. 

587
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:19,700
And it fall into one and four 
and you know what's fascinating 

588
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:23,300
and I think worth remembering 
about this IU team and for those

589
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:31,700
who don't know this stat, at 
that point, I you had a combined

590
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,700
roughly 6 percent chance of 
getting the double by bad at of 

591
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,000
0.3 percent chance of winning. 
The conference is 0.8 percent 

592
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
chance of finishing second, a 
1.8 percent chance of finishing 

593
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,500
third in a three point, three 
percent chance of finishing. 

594
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
In forth. 
So Indiana, managed to grab the 

595
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,700
1.8 percent chance, from that 
point being one in four, got 

596
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:55,500
themselves into the double by. 
And, you know, you look around 

597
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:59,100
at the other teams in that mix, 
like, Rutgers had the injury. 

598
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:03,700
But at the time they had about a
70% chance of getting a double 

599
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:07,400
by Ohio State, who has two and 
two at the time and was playing 

600
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,200
really well. 
Had an even higher percentage. 

601
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,700
Chance of getting a double by, I
believe there was actually about

602
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:15,200
it right around the same. 
So just kind of a name. 

603
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,700
Something to notice in something
to remember, when you talk 

604
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,800
about, the way this season went 
from, where it started to where 

605
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,900
it finished, you got to really 
like what Indiana was able to 

606
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,400
do, again, despite the injury 
issues that they were facing. 

607
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,300
So one thing for the Big Ten 
Tournament, I was thinking about

608
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,900
this this morning when you look 
at kind of our half of the the 

609
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,100
bracket but I think this goes 
for almost any team out there 

610
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,500
and I can kind of make the 
argument for any other team. 

611
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:44,000
I do think this breaks really 
well for us based on where teams

612
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,300
kind of feelings are at and Fan 
bases. 

613
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:50,400
Because, you know, I think these
are going to be damn near home. 

614
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,400
You know, it's not an indie, 
they're going to be home games. 

615
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,500
He's look at our side of the 
bracket like Minnesota Nebraska,

616
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:56,100
and they're not coming there. 
None of my friends are showing 

617
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:57,900
up, Maryland. 
They're not flying across the 

618
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,900
right thing in a huge contingent
to Chicago. 

619
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:03,900
For this maybe Illinois if they 
win, and then beat Northwestern 

620
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:07,800
and then see us in the semis, 
but I mean, Illinois has been 

621
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,400
sco's. 
So schizophrenic, I see their 

622
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,600
fans kind of being half in and 
then we outdrew North Western 

623
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600
and Northwestern. 
So I, you know, I know there's 

624
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Chicago's Big Ten Team but we're
going to draw them like I see us

625
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,200
having a much larger fan 
contingent of anybody on our 

626
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,500
side even if you look at the 
other side of the bracket it's 

627
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,300
like Michigan Rutgers or just 
trying to get in you know, 

628
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,800
Purdue fans will probably be 
there. 

629
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,700
But there's also a bit of like 
man that this last year again 

630
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:35,400
like you know and Michigan State
probably is there but like, they

631
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
don't travel as much. 
I just I can see all of this 

632
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,600
being a really good pseudo. 
Home crowd for Indiana. 

633
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,400
Just feels like there's a lot of
reasons for other fan bases too 

634
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,000
kind of check out or not. 
Make the trip all the way to 

635
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,300
Chicago. 
So just just throwing that out 

636
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,200
there just a thought experiment.
It does feel like it should be a

637
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
very partisan crowd for the 
Hoosiers. 

638
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Most of these games and that's 
mattered so much in Prior. 

639
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,900
Big Ten turn. 
I've got to get all these stats 

640
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:02,800
out of the way Scott because we 
don't mention them. 

641
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,800
I know you're like we're all 
going through treatment 

642
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,300
detecting, the growing 3 and 3. 
So like dude we're oh and 

643
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,700
everything. 
And every I want to I just want 

644
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:11,700
to see the good at I want. 
No there's not. 

645
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:13,600
I want to recap what Indiana's 
done. 

646
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,900
No. 
Look If we don't what mr. 

647
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:22,200
T say, hey if we don't do this 
we won't be able to speak it out

648
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,500
of existence. 
That's the best My Philosophy. 

649
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,700
So I just want to get some 
numbers out of the way so you 

650
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,700
can hear them and then if 
somebody tries to print them, 

651
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,300
you won't have to read them 
later on but Indiana in the Big 

652
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:38,000
Ten Tournament. 
Has the second-worst winning 

653
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,100
percentage of any team that was 
in the Big Ten when the Big Ten 

654
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,300
Tournament started, which was 
1998. 

655
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:48,200
So this is fascinating to me. 
Indiana 15 and 24 in the Big Ten

656
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,100
Tournament. 
That's a thirty eight and a half

657
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:55,100
percent winning percentage. 
The only original 11 team from 

658
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,000
1998 that has a worse. 
Winning percentage is 

659
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,300
Northwestern who's got a 28.6% 
winning percentage, 

660
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,300
northwestern's 10 and 25 in 
that. 

661
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:12,300
Span Indiana. 
So in the end of 15 and 24 and 

662
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,699
Penn State is 17 to 24. 
So Penn State of all teams, 

663
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:19,600
actually has a better winning 
percentage in the Big Ten 

664
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:26,000
Tournament than I, you does, I 
you with obviously one runner-up

665
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
and zero championship 
appearance, is the only other 

666
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
teams that have that poor of a 
record, other than Northwestern 

667
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,800
who has neither Penn State has 
zero chance, Chips. 

668
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,000
And one runner-up, Minnesota has
zero championships and won 

669
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,300
runner-up, so that's it. 
Now, one thing I will note is 

670
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:46,800
that, as bad as Indiana's been 
Purdue has almost been as bad in

671
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,300
terms of total win percentage. 
I just want to throw that in 

672
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,600
produce win percentage only 42%.
They're 16 and 23 all time. 

673
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,699
They do have one championship in
for runners up so they can be 

674
00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:58,800
Tucson. 
That but overall Purdue has not 

675
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,500
performed much better than I, 
you know, outside of those teams

676
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,500
just mentioned every other 
Original Big, Ten Tito air quote

677
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:07,700
original has a championship 
because, yeah, I'm just going 

678
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:09,200
think. 
Michigan state has won Michigan.

679
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400
State has six Ohio state has for
Illinois. 

680
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,000
Has three Wisconsin, has three 
Iowa has three. 

681
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,100
Michigan. 
Has to Purdue has one Minnesota,

682
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,100
Penn State, Indiana Rutgers, 
Nebraska Marilyn, Northwestern. 

683
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:22,400
All have zero. 
Wow. 

684
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,200
We need what we? 
So what you need to do, when 

685
00:35:25,207 --> 00:35:28,400
you're a professor in this 
subject, we need to dig up some 

686
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,700
records and like maybe there is 
a random tournament in like 1904

687
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:36,100
and 05 where University of I was
part of it and so we can get 

688
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:40,400
them under slotted under us. 
No, actually there was a 1907 

689
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,700
Big Ten, Tournament Universe 
Chicago, went 0 and 3 so they're

690
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:49,200
actually worse than we are. 
Yeah that you know that's 

691
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200
probably not a I've looked back.
There's nothing equivalent that 

692
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,000
I can point to sadly find 
playing at a YMCA gym or 

693
00:35:55,008 --> 00:35:57,200
something couple other thing. 
Couple other things to note 

694
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,900
about the three seed and I was 
really I was hedging hard for 

695
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:05,900
not getting the three. 
A seed because the three seed 

696
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:09,400
has been, you know, if the Big 
Ten Tournament is terrible for 

697
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,900
IU, the three seed is especially
terrible because the three times

698
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,800
I use been a three seed, prior 
to this are as follows, okay? 

699
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,900
The first was 1999, it was the 
second Big Ten Tournament. 

700
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,900
I, you had played pretty well 
that year. 

701
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:25,400
They were in a three-way tie for
second behind Michigan state. 

702
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,800
They're the three seed. 
They had the late game. 

703
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,900
I remember this very clearly 
because this was still the 

704
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:33,600
United Center and my girlfriend 
at the time had we had bought, 

705
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,300
she had got me tickets. 
It's to IU or to the Indiana 

706
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,500
Pacers Golden State Warriors 
game, which was going on up at 

707
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:42,400
Market square Arena, which is, 
that was still where the Pacers 

708
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,100
replying. 
So, Golden State suck times, 

709
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,000
like, oh, this is great. 
We'll go see the Pacers win, and

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000
then we'll cut back in time for 
the second half of the eye. 

711
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,700
You get well, Golden State, 
blows the Pacers out by like 20,

712
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,200
get in the car turn on, you 
know, Don Fisher and Indiana's. 

713
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,300
The three seed, keep in mind, 
they're playing Illinois. 

714
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:02,200
Who was the worst team in the 
Big Ten that year, and Illinois 

715
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600
is just made that run. 
Ting. 

716
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,900
Aye you at the end of the first 
half and I you ends up losing 

717
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:13,700
211 seated, Illinois by a score 
of 82 to 66 that was brutal. 

718
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,000
Not only T made it all the way 
to the championship game that 

719
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,400
year, they ended up missing, or 
losing out to Michigan State and

720
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,600
they didn't make the tournament.
So that was the first time. 

721
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,500
Indiana was the three seed. 
The second time that Indiana was

722
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:29,600
a three seed happened in 2007, 
and that's why you broke up with

723
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,600
a girlfriend, right? 
Yeah. 

724
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,800
Just what your bad bad bad 
night? 

725
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,700
No, the In time, Indiana was a 
three seed he had to jump 

726
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:41,400
forward to 2007 that was K. 
Samson's first-year Indiana 

727
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:44,100
three seed who do they play in 
the second round? 

728
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:48,800
Illinois, the 6 seed who had 
beaten Penn State in that was an

729
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,200
Indiana team that, you know, was
very sound, but that struggles 

730
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,100
with scoring, they end up 
getting taken to overtime in 

731
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:59,000
that game and Illinois ends up 
winning 50. 8250 for in 

732
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,800
overtime. 
The, the next and final time 

733
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,400
that Indiana has been the three 
seed was the very next season, 

734
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:11,000
which was, of course, you know, 
Calvin Sampson had been forced 

735
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,600
quit. 
Dan, dokic is coaching the team.

736
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,500
Indiana has stumbled down the 
stretch, they are the three 

737
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,600
seed. 
Who do they play Minnesota? 

738
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,300
What happens in that game? 
Was not hofstetter. 

739
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,200
That was that? 
That was the Blake, ha Farber 

740
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,000
shot farmer. 
Yes, so, that's the legacy of 

741
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000
IU, is a three seed in the Big 
Ten Tournament. 

742
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,000
I just and again that's it's 
emblematic of Indiana struggles 

743
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,600
over. 
All the history of the Big, Ten 

744
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,500
Tournament Indiana's made one 
final that was 2001 when they 

745
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:43,900
lost to Iowa with Dean Oliver 
and and Steve Alford is the head

746
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:48,400
coach they've made wrecker. 
Yeah, they've made five semi 

747
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,000
finals total or suit I6 
actually. 01 02 03. 

748
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,100
Had a nice run there under Mike 
Davis. 

749
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:59,300
Of course, 2006, again under 
Mike Davis, Iram, 2013, when 

750
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,400
they lost in the second round in
Wisconsin. 

751
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,400
And then last year people, that 
was there. 

752
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,500
That was there. 
Most recent semi-final 

753
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:09,600
appearance. 
So all that said, the one nice 

754
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,800
thing is that, you know, they 
get an extra day of rest and I 

755
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,800
would not like to be Maryland, 
sitting there likely having to 

756
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,300
play Nebraska in the second 
round. 

757
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:25,100
Nebraska has been red-hot in the
Big Ten and they are going to 

758
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,800
play against Minnesota in the 
first game and probably win that

759
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,500
watch them lose. 
But I mean, I probably win that 

760
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,300
game on Wednesday. 
That's a team that could 

761
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:34,500
absolutely beat Maryland, on a 
neutral floor, either way in He 

762
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:39,700
gets to play either Nebraska or 
Minnesota or Maryland on Friday 

763
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:46,000
night at about nine ish eastern 
time and it's nice to not have 

764
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,900
to worry too much about it, you 
know, overall and I say that for

765
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:53,400
a couple of reasons one, you 
know, if you're playing Maryland

766
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,000
and you lose the game it really,
it doesn't harm you much. 

767
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,700
If you win the game, that's 
great. 

768
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:59,400
You move on. 
You might get to play 

769
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,700
Northwestern who's been more 
snake-bitten in this competition

770
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,400
than Indiana has historically. 
Yeah. 

771
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:07,100
And if you don't play them, 
you're probably playing Illinois

772
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,000
or Penn State. 
Both of which I think Indiana 

773
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,100
can probably beat on a neutral 
floor but you don't have to. 

774
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,300
And I think that's the one other
thing about the Big Ten 

775
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:18,100
tournament this year. 
It's like One of the things that

776
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,900
people need to understand about 
the way the tournament is 

777
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,900
selected is that they don't just
wait till Sunday morning of 

778
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:26,800
bracket reveal day and just do 
the whole field at that point. 

779
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,000
That would be, there's no time 
there's voting and there's like,

780
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
huge lists and they got a place 
teams. 

781
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:35,500
So they start seeding the field 
and placing teams in those top 

782
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,600
seven, eight seed lines on like 
Thursday and Friday. 

783
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,900
And by Friday night, they 
normally got like the top half 

784
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,400
of the field done. 
They may be done with that 

785
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,000
before Indiana's done playing 
their game on. 

786
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,700
They night. 
So at this point Indiana's, 

787
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,900
pretty much got their cards on 
the table and, you know, even if

788
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,400
honestly, even if Nebraska were 
to beat them, I think it'd be 

789
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,200
too late to harm Indiana and I 
don't think Indiana would be 

790
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,600
necessarily improving their 
seating location in the NCAA 

791
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,300
tournament even if they win. 
So this ends up just being kind 

792
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:09,600
of bonus games that Indiana 
could possibly go out and win 

793
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,100
but they're not like critical 
games for Indiana, trying to get

794
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,700
into the field and that I think 
is an important thing 

795
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,000
psychologically for this team. 
Yeah. 

796
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:21,400
Yeah, and I also look at, you 
know, again, just personally the

797
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,400
teams that I wanted to stay away
from were Michigan State, 

798
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Purdue. 
I just think they're both 

799
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,500
physical teams. 
I think Michigan state has some 

800
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:31,400
real hot shooting with Walker, 
like they just scared, and I was

801
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,500
really worried of getting in the
45 and just having to play 

802
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:35,800
Michigan State in the first 
year. 

803
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,600
We were the four and we played 
there were the five and we 

804
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200
played them first round with 
that really well like being in 

805
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Michigan like having a Michigan 
State Purdue back-to-back games.

806
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Like that's a those are tough 40
minutes games I think for me, 

807
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,100
Just broke about as well as you 
possibly could ask for that 

808
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:51,800
between Maryland. 
Nebraska Minnesota. 

809
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,600
I think that's a very winnable 
game and then, you know, either 

810
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,400
Illinois, Northwestern like I'm 
not overly terrified of either 

811
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,800
of those teams and that kind of 
gets you into the finals 

812
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,000
without, you know, Michigan, 
Iowa, Purdue, Michigan, State or

813
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,200
the teams that I think have the 
best kind of chance against this

814
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,500
Indiana team and matchup as well
with us as we can. 

815
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,100
I think we match up actually 
best with Purdue, it's just more

816
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,400
the physicality and I just kind 
of Would rather just leave it 

817
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,500
at, you know, to a know this 
year. 

818
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:23,200
So II, like all the teams that 
are half of the bracket, I think

819
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,500
we match up well, with them and 
even if we lose, it's not going 

820
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:30,000
to be an overly physical game 
philosophically speaking. 

821
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:34,300
I can't really decide what I 
want out of this Big Ten 

822
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,200
Tournament because I guess like,
here's the thing is because it 

823
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,600
is clear to me, I know what I 
don't want, I don't want to go 

824
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,600
on for well, three steep that. 
That's that would be nice. 

825
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:51,200
Yes, it is clear that IU has The
talent to both lose inexplicably

826
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,200
and win games against great 
competition. 

827
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,400
I mean, it it's really just who 
knows, like you really don't 

828
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,400
know until not even till the 
game starts. 

829
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,100
If you don't know to the last 
five minutes in most cases over 

830
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:04,700
him as the game starts. 
And it's like, oh, they're good 

831
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,000
though, they're not. 
So I don't know. 

832
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
I really I've been thinking 
about this like what we'll 

833
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,100
actually get this team ready for
great question. 

834
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:20,000
The NCAA tournament like What 
what psychological what would be

835
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,700
better? 
Is it? 

836
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,200
Because I do a lot of people 
like oh just lose the first game

837
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,200
because it's not really going to
help your seating or hurt your 

838
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,100
seating and then you get extra 
rest and I don't know if that's 

839
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:33,000
the best for this team. 
I feel like this team thrives 

840
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:38,700
when it believes in itself and 
as much as rest is important, 

841
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:42,600
they're going to get five days 
of rest before they play on 

842
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,100
Friday and they're going to get 
you know, for three and a half 

843
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:49,300
four. 
Maybe four and a half days of 

844
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,000
rest before they play their next
game. 

845
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,000
And as long as nobody gets 
injured knock on wood, you know,

846
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,400
would it be better for them to 
go out and beat a Maryland team?

847
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:03,700
That beat them pretty soundly 
earlier in the year, would it be

848
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:08,000
good in the second round to 
either beat a Northwestern team 

849
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,500
that barely beat them in the 
previous two games on a neutral 

850
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:13,900
floor or beat in Illinois? 
Team? 

851
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,300
That's, you know, gotten hot 
would how what psychological 

852
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,300
Pack would it have on this team 
to finally win a trophy of some 

853
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,200
sort? 
When the Big Ten tournament for 

854
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,000
the first time in school 
history, when put something put 

855
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,100
a banner up, you know, even 
though it's the least important 

856
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,700
of the banners. 
It's like the you know the 

857
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:35,600
league cup of heart banners to 
get it is, right? 

858
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:38,200
I mean it feels like a demon 
that could get slayed and I 

859
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,200
don't know. 
I don't feel like that outcome 

860
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,900
would have a negative impact on 
playing in the NCAA tournament 

861
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:47,300
because I think you know we 
talked about this I think it 

862
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:51,500
would make Use with you or with 
somebody else but this team 

863
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:55,700
really does act and talk like 
it's on a mission like they've 

864
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,600
got stuff they want to 
accomplish and we talked about 

865
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,600
last year how that Wyoming Game 
was kind of the mission 

866
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
accomplished of the season and 
they you know it's like what we 

867
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,300
don't have anything left that we
had we do that was a goal per se

868
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,700
that we really thought we could 
reach here. 

869
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,200
It feels like their sights are 
higher than just winning a game 

870
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,700
in the NCAA tournament. 
And I do Wonder from the And 

871
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:19,700
point of how they're going to 
approach this game. 

872
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,500
This the series of games 
psychologically, if it wouldn't 

873
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,800
be better if they had a better 
launch pad emotionally than just

874
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,500
going out and doubting 
themselves again because they 

875
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,100
lost in the first round of the, 
of the Big Ten Tournament. 

876
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,400
I agree with all that. 
I also like, hey, do you have 

877
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,200
like, you know, the, you know, 
like the the, the Alzheimer's 

878
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Club, you know, like Jo like a 
trace Jackson, Davis. 

879
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,100
You know, if they win the Big 
Ten Tournament walking in. 

880
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:45,200
It's like there's Jared Jeffries
and it's like, hey, I went to a 

881
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,500
final four is like, Yeah, final 
400 Well, done that. 

882
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:51,900
I want a Big Ten Tournament 
title and everyone's like, oh, 

883
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000
he feels like I did. 
Number one team in the country 

884
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,300
is like, yeah, g. 
Get a Big Ten Tournament title. 

885
00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:59,300
Like I want three games in that 
sucker. 

886
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:00,300
What you got? 
Yeah. 

887
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,200
Now there is funny. 
It's like you he we've been 

888
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,600
talking about his legacy. 
It's like that's, he gets 

889
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,200
something. 
No one else has. 

890
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,400
Yeah, that's got no, I I agree 
with you and I think for this 

891
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,600
team, you know, that they're not
fragile. 

892
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,400
That's not the right word. 
But they are definitely a little

893
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,700
finicky at times I'll say. 
And, you know, sometimes things 

894
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:25,400
get them down and takes them a 
little longer to get up off the 

895
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,600
mat. 
And I agree with you, like I 

896
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,000
don't like the idea of them, you
know, beating Michigan having 

897
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,800
that moment. 
Like all right. 

898
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Well, you know, I was in the 
rearview mirror and then if they

899
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,400
just lay an egg against 
Maryland, then do they spend the

900
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,800
next, you know, talk about rest.
Do they spend the next seven 

901
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,400
days just stewing on that and 
that, and that becomes also, 

902
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:48,300
that's a tough spot. 
Would sit in the car. 

903
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:49,700
What do you do? 
Do you rip them? 

904
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:51,400
Do you not like that? 
I don't know. 

905
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,900
Do not know the answer there. 
Yeah, but now you're sitting 

906
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,500
eight days, just stewing on that
loss. 

907
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:59,000
That could feed. 
I'm with you. 

908
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,500
There is something to kind of be
like, hey man, let's just win 

909
00:47:02,508 --> 00:47:05,200
them all. 
Got like we have, we have a, we 

910
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,100
have a relatively easy path to 
the championship. 

911
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:11,300
So to speak, you know, we're not
going to see Michigan State. 

912
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:12,900
We're not going to be pretty 
Roxy Iowa. 

913
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,800
You know, let's get to the 
championship and then figure it 

914
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,400
out and then let's just keep 
winning. 

915
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,700
Like let's let's just, we only 
got, you know what? 

916
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,400
Six seven eight, nine. 
We got nine more games, let's 

917
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,400
win them all, it's funny because
a lot of people are like, well, 

918
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,100
if you, if you make it to the 
championship game in the Big Ten

919
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,400
Tournament, then you're not 
going to be arrested and all of 

920
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,600
this and it's like, that's not 
really how it's worked. 

921
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,800
Like, if you go back to 2015, 
here's what the champion of the 

922
00:47:34,808 --> 00:47:38,300
Big Ten tournament did in the 
NCAA tournament. 

923
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:42,100
In 2015, Wisconsin one, they 
went to the title game and they 

924
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:45,600
lost obviously to Duke in that 
horrific, refereeing display, 

925
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:49,000
the next year. 
Michigan, 81, they were the two 

926
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
seed and they lost in the first 
round in Middle, Tennessee, 

927
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,300
State in 2017. 
Michigan. 

928
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:58,300
Kind of went on a surprise run 
as the eighth seed, they win the

929
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:01,800
Big Ten Tournament. 
There are seven seed in the NCAA

930
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,400
tournament and they make it to 
the Sweet 16 in 2018 Michigan 

931
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,900
wins. 
Again, goes on a run, makes it 

932
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:10,900
all the way to the title game 
and ends up losing to Villanova 

933
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,200
2019. 
Michigan state is the one seed 

934
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,500
wins. 
The Big Ten Tournament. 

935
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:18,400
Makes it all the way to the 
final four and Losses to Texas 

936
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,400
Tech. 
There was no tournament in 2020 

937
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,400
because of covid. 
Indiana is, you know I think 

938
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
data one that we should claim 
that Championship we were the 

939
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,100
highest seated we're gonna have 
the number one all-time be you 

940
00:48:29,107 --> 00:48:33,400
know NCAA tournament team in 76 
and put up, put up the 2020, 

941
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,400
Big, Ten title Banner like just 
let's see. 

942
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,600
What is anything Illinois in 
2021 wins as they were the 

943
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,000
number one seed in the Midwest? 
And of course, they lost in the 

944
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,500
second round to Loyola. 
And then last year, Iowa's, the 

945
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,800
5c goes on Ron beats Indiana in 
the semis beats Purdue in the 

946
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200
final and then loses in the 
first round to Richmond. 

947
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,900
So there's really no Rhyme or 
Reason. 

948
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:56,200
It's not like well if you make 
it to the title game, you're 

949
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,500
screwed because you're tired, 
but it's also not like you make 

950
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:03,700
it to the title game, or win the
title game and you use that as a

951
00:49:03,707 --> 00:49:07,300
catapult, it really does come 
down to less about what happens 

952
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:10,800
in the tournament and more about
where is your team at at that 

953
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,800
point in time and what are they 
going to do? 

954
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,800
I don't even know if it's 
necessarily situation where it's

955
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,400
like, well, how well were you 
playing coming into? 

956
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:19,200
Do it. 
I mean that Michigan team that 

957
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,600
was an eight seed. 
I mean that team at one point 

958
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,900
was they made a bit of a run 
towards the end of the year but 

959
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:27,300
they weren't anything special 
like they lost in Minnesota. 

960
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:30,400
They lost in Northwestern. 
They just happen to get hot at 

961
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,500
the right time. 
They make it to the Sweet 16, 

962
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,300
you know? 
That's you can do that. 

963
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:39,400
If you're an eye, you that that 
is playing well and taking, you 

964
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200
know, doing what they need to 
do, that's where it's going to 

965
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,600
be fascinating to watch. 
You know, I will say, the one 

966
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,800
thing I really want to see that 
I'm really fascinated about Not 

967
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,900
just with IU. 
But with everybody is like, 

968
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:54,300
first of all, what does I you 
look like on a neutral floor 

969
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,900
against other Big Ten teams 
because the Big Ten has been so 

970
00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:02,600
home dominant over the course of
this season that it's really 

971
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,800
been hard to get a good sense of
how much teams are actually good

972
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,400
and how much it's just team is 
relying on home, court advantage

973
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,400
or Road game disadvantage. 
Might be the better way of 

974
00:50:13,408 --> 00:50:15,300
putting it because there's been 
some inexplicable Road 

975
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:17,900
performances across the board. 
Now that Edinburgh That broke 

976
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:19,000
down a little bit. 
At the end of the year. 

977
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,100
You think about Indiana winning 
at Purdue. 

978
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,900
I will winning in Indiana, 
Nebraska winning at Iowa. 

979
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:27,900
Northwestern winning at Rutgers.
You know, like, there have been 

980
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,300
some weird quirks to the the 
system, but I am curious to see 

981
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:36,200
how that goes because I think 
Indiana could farewell, on a 

982
00:50:36,207 --> 00:50:39,500
neutral floor, if there were not
Big Ten referees with the Big 

983
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:41,900
Ten referees, I'm not as sure, 
but that is going to be 

984
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,900
something keeping an eye on the 
other thing I think is going to 

985
00:50:44,908 --> 00:50:50,100
be really fascinating to watch 
is You know do we see? 

986
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,200
I you you know, are they going 
to be? 

987
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:56,100
How does Jay Lamont Ruffino 
adjust to knowing that the 

988
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,000
spotlight is now going to be on 
him? 

989
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
You know as he preps to try to 
go to the NBA draft. 

990
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:03,700
How does tres Jackson, Davis 
respond. 

991
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,100
On the one hand, I think both of
those guys are cool enough 

992
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:09,100
customers that it's not going to
affect them. 

993
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,800
I think that especially now that
Trace Jackson Davis has been 

994
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,700
doing NCAA tournament the 
newness of that wears off. 

995
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,700
I am just curious to see 
everybody else perform. 

996
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,800
Forms especially Jalen Hurd 
Ruffino because you know he's 

997
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,800
had his normal kind of up and 
down games and I think of 

998
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Indiana is going to win more 
than a couple of games. 

999
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,900
In either of these tournaments, 
he's going to have to play with 

1000
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:31,700
more consistency and at a higher
level simultaneously, otherwise 

1001
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:33,600
it might be a pretty quick trip 
both times. 

1002
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:38,800
Yeah, I mean it's there's a 
world where I can see Indiana, 

1003
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,000
you know, getting to the finals 
and maybe winning the term. 

1004
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,800
It's also like that's 
unfortunately, it's like that 

1005
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,500
takes a level of consistency. 
We just haven't seen, you know, 

1006
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:52,200
on a game. 
Now, what's interesting here is,

1007
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,600
you know, we haven't seen that 
may be, it may be playing that 

1008
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,200
quickly, just back to back to 
back. 

1009
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,800
Like, it doesn't give you the 
time to kind of have that 

1010
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,800
letdown after the Purdue win and
come in unprepared against Iowa.

1011
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,700
Like Maybe this is just a, you 
know, but it's it's even tougher

1012
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:10,000
to agree with that because we 
look inconsistent, even within 

1013
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,600
games. 
Like it's not like we're great 

1014
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,000
one game. 
And then we're like, we're 

1015
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,200
Michigan was a perfect example, 
think we're great. 

1016
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,600
And then we're not and then we 
come on really strong at the 

1017
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,800
end. 
So I'm I just hope to see that. 

1018
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,100
We don't have one of those 
complete Collective Duds. 

1019
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,100
I think, as long as we can get 
out of the Big Ten tournament 

1020
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:33,900
without having an Iowa, you 
know, 15-point loss, I'm going 

1021
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,400
to feel A pretty good about our 
chances in the NCAA tournament. 

1022
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,600
I think that's fair. 
You know, and I think ultimately

1023
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,700
again I don't think it matters 
that much will talk about the 

1024
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:46,300
games. 
Obviously, as they happen we'll 

1025
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:49,100
do a preview podcast leading 
into that Friday game so that we

1026
00:52:49,107 --> 00:52:51,100
can talk about whoever it is 
going to be playing, but it's 

1027
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:52,900
going to look. 
I mean, ultimately I just wanted

1028
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:55,300
the Anna to have a good 
experience, nobody to get 

1029
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:59,600
injured and and, and get their 
heads, ready for tournament 

1030
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,100
play. 
Because I do think that this 

1031
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:04,300
Indiana team when their backs 
are against the wall. 

1032
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,000
As we saw in the Michigan, game 
responds, really well, Mike 

1033
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,200
Woodson's job. 
This week is getting this team 

1034
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,600
to realize that their backs were
against the wall, every game 

1035
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,000
from this point forward and like
they've got a they've got to 

1036
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,100
bring that energy and that 
intensity especially on the 

1037
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:21,400
defensive end for more of the 
game than they bring bringing it

1038
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,200
in all games, except that game 
at Purdue, that's going to be 

1039
00:53:25,207 --> 00:53:27,200
the difference between a season 
that people walk away. 

1040
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Really happy about a season that
people walk away kind of 

1041
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,700
scratching their head wondering.
What if I have two questions for

1042
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:34,800
you to wrap up. 
Go ahead, one is a bracket 

1043
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,700
racket question, but I'll bring 
it on here, they'll hang out, 

1044
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:39,600
the listen. 
No, but something we talked 

1045
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,200
about a lot in the crean era was
you know, the the non-conference

1046
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,300
scheduling not that the high 
level games weren't there. 

1047
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:50,900
But that a lot of the low level 
teams were in really, The 

1048
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:53,600
Bargain Basement. 
And that was always hurting our 

1049
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,300
seed line because we were 
playing your teams in the 300s. 

1050
00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:59,300
Question is I look at our 
schedule this year, you know, 

1051
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:03,200
you have, you know, Morehead 
State Bethune cookman your 252 

1052
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,700
346. 
You know, Miami Ohio, Little 

1053
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:09,000
Rock Jackson State or 267 323 
298. 

1054
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,900
Amusing can Palm numbers Ilan 
and Kennesaw State elon's 338 

1055
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:15,500
you can say it's better there 
129, I think they just made the 

1056
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:17,000
tournament they did. 
But every other team that I 

1057
00:54:17,008 --> 00:54:20,200
mentioned is, you know, your 
your the 250s you're in the 300s

1058
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,200
that reminiscent of crean era 
scheduling my question to you 

1059
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,400
for bracket bracket, like if we 
sub out some of you know, 

1060
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,000
Bethune-Cookman and Elon if we 
sold those teams out, Kennesaw 

1061
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,800
State type teams in that ranking
era is that was holding us back 

1062
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,000
from a three seed or is that 
hurting our numbers enough, like

1063
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,000
it does well under. 
Like I agree with it in the 

1064
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,700
Korean era but it seems like no 
one's been talking about it with

1065
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:48,500
this year's team that a lot of 
our bad teams we played were 

1066
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:52,300
really that. 
Well, it's a good question. 

1067
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:56,300
I think, you know, look what I 
would say to people on the 

1068
00:54:56,300 --> 00:55:01,700
schedule is as follows Indiana. 
If you look at a fish, And see 

1069
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:05,700
margin played the 14th toughest 
schedule in the country this 

1070
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:08,100
year. 
And then they'll and now, that's

1071
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:12,000
because 20 of those 31 games 
came against Big, Ten teams. 

1072
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,700
And that's what you have to keep
in mind. 

1073
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:18,100
I mean, if you go back and look 
at crean era teams that they 

1074
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:23,300
don't look as good, you know, in
2014 that was the 58th toughest 

1075
00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:28,500
schedule 51st toughest schedule 
in 2015, 2016, Indiana played 

1076
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:33,900
the 65th toughest schedule. 
You know, even in the 2013 

1077
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,000
season, Indiana played the 17 
toughest schedule and in the 

1078
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,100
2012 season and played the 15th 
toughest. 

1079
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:42,300
So this this season's worth of 
teams that Indiana played 

1080
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:45,400
against was actually tougher by 
comparison. 

1081
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,200
Then what 2012 and 2013 played 
against. 

1082
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,100
I think my theory on this is as 
follows that yes, from a seating

1083
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:57,200
perspective, you might do 
slightly better if you raise the

1084
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,500
floor. 
But I don't think it matters 

1085
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,300
that much in terms of seating 
because what gets you high? 

1086
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,800
Higher in the seed list. 
As we see with the big 12 is 

1087
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,700
playing against quad one teams 
and beating them. 

1088
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:13,000
And all you're doing with your 
strength of schedule stuff by, 

1089
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,600
you know, eliminating the the 
250 to 350 teams and subbing in 

1090
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,700
150 to 250 teams is, you're 
bulking up the overall quality 

1091
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:24,500
of your schedule but you're not 
giving yourself the top end 

1092
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:27,000
games that you would need to 
compete. 

1093
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,600
And I think the big problem 
right now that what's holding 

1094
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:36,300
Indiana back is Two things, one.
If you look at Let's take a team

1095
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:39,200
like Marquette. 
They're relatively comparable to

1096
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,700
Indiana in terms of the winds 
that they've got told. 

1097
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:44,000
I mean they have six quad one 
wins Indiana's. 

1098
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,400
Got five, marquette's got five, 
quad 2 wins Indiana's got six. 

1099
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,300
What the difference is quite 
simply. 

1100
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:54,600
That India has got more losses 
than Marquette and that's why 

1101
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,600
Marquette is going to be seated 
higher than them. 

1102
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:01,000
If you look at a team like I'm 
trying to get another good 

1103
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,100
example here to give you well 
let's take Baylor. 

1104
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:05,900
Okay. 
Baylor You know, who's a 2 seed?

1105
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:10,200
And as Ben was knocking on the 1
seed or Baylor's, got 11 quad, 

1106
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,900
one wins and and of those 11 
quad one wins I think like seven

1107
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:17,000
or eight of them are Road in 
neutral. 

1108
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,000
And the problem is just a big 10
wasn't that strong, they weren't

1109
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,400
that top-heavy like the big 12 
was because the Big 12 

1110
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,200
collectively said we're going to
schedule stronger non-conference

1111
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,900
games. 
And that led to a situation in 

1112
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,500
the net where a lot of teams 
just like Oklahoma. 

1113
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:36,400
Who's frankly a pretty sucky 
team? 

1114
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,400
Yes, they blew Alabama out, but,
but on the whole for the season,

1115
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,200
they were pretty sucky but 
that's a tier 1 win, you know? 

1116
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,500
So I think that that's really 
what's holding you back, seating

1117
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:50,300
wise, if I, you would one, you 
know, any of the road games that

1118
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:55,700
they lost Maryland Penn State 
Rutgers Northwestern Iowa. 

1119
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,900
You know, if any of the ones 
that would have been like 

1120
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:02,800
halfway within shouting distance
or you know I mean that those 

1121
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,500
games would have been Quad one 
right there. 

1122
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,900
And that pushes you over the 
edge. 

1123
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:08,300
But Indiana, they played plenty 
of games. 

1124
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,300
They got you know this season 
was kind of weird because the 

1125
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:13,400
Big 12 had so many quad one 
wins. 

1126
00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:16,500
So you can either win a bunch of
games and have enough quad one 

1127
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:18,100
wins or you could just have a 
bunch of your wins. 

1128
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:20,600
Be quad, one wins and Indiana. 
Unfortunately had neither in 

1129
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,500
this case. 
Yeah, I'd still like to get out 

1130
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,600
of the 300 ranked. 
Well, I mean, I will say and if 

1131
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,400
I didn't want to get too much 
into scheduling philosophy, I I 

1132
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,100
agree with you. 
I also think that Mike Woodson 

1133
00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:36,800
We looked at this team and said,
this is a team that's gonna have

1134
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,500
to learn how to play differently
than they played last year 

1135
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:42,700
because I'm going to have 
essentially two point guards and

1136
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:45,000
a bunch of role players are 
going to try to figure out how 

1137
00:58:45,008 --> 00:58:46,600
to play in the very specific 
roles. 

1138
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,200
And I think he looked at it and 
said, I had a tinkerer and 

1139
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,000
experiment and get, guys 
comfortable. 

1140
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:54,000
I got a freshman that's going to
play a lot of minutes. 

1141
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:57,400
I don't want to put a situation 
where we're playing a bunch of, 

1142
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,800
like teams that can scare you. 
Because remember, you know, with

1143
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,800
no Xavier Johnson, and with a 
struggling jail and Hood pheno 

1144
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Indiana, I had really rough 
outings against Ilan and 

1145
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,500
Kennesaw State that Kennesaw 
State game was pretty close. 

1146
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,700
And that's the tricky part of 
playing. 

1147
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:16,900
Those sorts of teams is that 
they're not bad, you know? 

1148
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:18,800
I mean, Kennesaw State. 
He said they're going to NCAA 

1149
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,200
tournament, you know you want 
it. 

1150
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:23,800
Morehead State would have 
probably been an NCAA tournament

1151
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,800
team. 
I mean, they were the one seed 

1152
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,700
in the Ohio Valley, so that's 
where it does get a little bit 

1153
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:31,800
tricky as like, you got to 
schedule the right mid-level 

1154
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,400
teams as opposed to just 
scheduling ones that are 

1155
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,600
available. 
Horrible and you have to know 

1156
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,900
what your team needs. 
Ultimately in order to make it 

1157
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:41,800
work, that's fair. 
The other thing you mentioned is

1158
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Xavier Johnson, I think the last
question I think it's a good 

1159
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,700
time to mention it because will 
quickly get into Big Ten 

1160
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:47,900
tournament and still a 
tournament. 

1161
00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:53,200
Like I'm curious your thoughts 
on the call to let's first take 

1162
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,900
of discussion. 
Let's just assume you know that 

1163
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,800
we don't know his health and 
that he's not be if he's being 

1164
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,400
held back because he's not 
healthy. 

1165
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,200
Then obviously it's the right 
decision. 

1166
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,400
But let's say for sake of 
argument. 

1167
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:05,900
Sake. 
Let's just assume that maybe he 

1168
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:08,800
could have played, he could have
provided, you know, 5 or 10 

1169
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,300
minutes a game for the next 
three or four weeks two part 

1170
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:14,400
question. 
Like what do you like the 

1171
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,900
decision and then B being the 
Seer of seers with the 

1172
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:21,100
n-c-double-a? 
Do you think he gets the 

1173
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:27,500
exemption to play next year? 
Well, I mean, I'm, let's put it 

1174
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:30,600
this way. 
I don't think, I don't think I 

1175
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,700
you and Xavier Johnson. 
Specifically would have, you 

1176
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,600
know, put out that statement if 
they didn't feel pretty good 

1177
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,900
about getting a waiver. 
Yeah, you know, I've heard some 

1178
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:45,300
some fascinating things about 
that whole process that that 

1179
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:48,600
aren't really suitable for 
podcasting but it's an 

1180
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:56,100
interesting situation because I 
think ultimately I think Xavier 

1181
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,700
Johnson would have played if he 
was medically ready to play, you

1182
01:00:59,707 --> 01:01:03,200
know, and I think that 
ultimately if there's a question

1183
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,800
mark about whether his 
contributions would be available

1184
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,400
or if he was going to 
potentially injure himself, I 

1185
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,400
don't think they're just going 
to hold him out because I don't,

1186
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,500
I mean, look, Xavier Johnson's. 
How old is David, Johnson? 

1187
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:16,700
He's 24 or yeah. 
He's, he's he's not, he's not a 

1188
01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:19,900
spring chicken in college 
basketball leaders. 

1189
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:22,300
When is his birthday? 
10 1499. 

1190
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,400
Nine. 
So he will be 24 that, right? 

1191
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,800
Yeah, 23, 24, years old before 
the start of the upcoming 

1192
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,800
season. 
That's pretty old for a college 

1193
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,000
basketball player. 
It's not unheard of in the covid

1194
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,300
era or if you're BYU, but it's, 
you know, but it's one of those 

1195
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:41,900
things where it is unusual. 
I look, I'll say this. 

1196
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:46,700
When we didn't see Xavier 
Johnson back by mid-February, I 

1197
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:50,300
had a sneaking suspicion that we
might end up with not saying in 

1198
01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:53,400
back at all and, you know, Goes 
back to a lot of things we 

1199
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,900
talked about. 
Like you don't want to rush a 

1200
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:57,300
guy Mike. 
Woodson certainly has his own 

1201
01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:01,000
experience rushing back as part 
of the process, but I also think

1202
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,100
Johnson and his family likely 
had, you know, a lot of 

1203
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,000
conversations about what's 
really going to be best. 

1204
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,100
And if you have a chance at 
getting another year of college 

1205
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:14,000
basketball, particularly in an 
era where you can make upwards 

1206
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,000
of a million dollars as a 
college basketball player, know 

1207
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,200
you're going to lead a team like
Indiana, you know, you're going 

1208
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,500
to come in and be the starting 
point guard. 

1209
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:24,400
Yeah. 
And and, you know that even if 

1210
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,300
he went elsewhere, and I don't 
think he would go elsewhere 

1211
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:27,800
because he's already got 
everything set up here. 

1212
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,500
But even if he were to say, you 
know what, I'm going to, I'm 

1213
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:30,800
going to transfer somewhere 
else. 

1214
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,900
This is a different era than 
what you would have before. 

1215
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:37,700
And I think without ni L, this 
is a no-brainer. 

1216
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:39,900
If he could play, he would play.
But if you couldn't play, he 

1217
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,700
would just be done. 
And I mean, the whole process of

1218
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:45,600
going back and trying to get a 
waiver, you know, that process 

1219
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,300
is largely there. 
I think because you can, you 

1220
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,800
can, you can make some Bank, you
can get, you can play another, 

1221
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,500
you're a basketball and Yo, I 
mean Xavier Johnson going to get

1222
01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:57,500
a real shot at the NBA. 
Probably not. 

1223
01:02:57,500 --> 01:02:59,300
Is he going to go overseas? 
I don't know. 

1224
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:01,300
I mean, I'm assuming he'll try 
to play for at least a couple of

1225
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:05,800
years, but if you can, like, why
not put yourself in a position 

1226
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,400
where you could come back and 
play again. 

1227
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:12,400
If you weren't actually able to 
come back and contribute and I 

1228
01:03:12,408 --> 01:03:16,000
look, I think he he likely had 
it in his mind that he was going

1229
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,100
to get right and be able to come
back and contribute and be up 

1230
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,500
and running and it would have 
been great if he was able to To 

1231
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:26,400
but it's I have to think that 
this was a decision that made a 

1232
01:03:26,408 --> 01:03:29,900
lot of sense all the way around 
in order for it to come out and 

1233
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:31,200
be made. 
And I'm just glad they made the 

1234
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,900
announcement, you know, before 
the game but I think it was 

1235
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:36,600
interesting. 
Because remember, the original 

1236
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,300
announcement, I think was that 
do I have this right? 

1237
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:40,900
That the original announcement 
was that he was going to go 

1238
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,700
through senior night and then 
yes. 

1239
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:45,600
And then he didn't go through 
senior night which that, that 

1240
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:47,900
old the whole timing and 
everything really is 

1241
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:49,200
interesting. 
And that's what makes me think 

1242
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,300
that the waiver is more likely 
than not because I can't imagine

1243
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,000
That he would have pulled out a 
senior night only to never get a

1244
01:03:56,008 --> 01:03:59,200
chance to like say anything to 
the crowd because the waiver 

1245
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,400
didn't go through again. 
Not I don't know what's going to

1246
01:04:02,408 --> 01:04:03,400
happen. 
I don't have any inside 

1247
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,900
information. 
I just think that sequence kind 

1248
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:08,900
of tells you that they feel 
pretty good about the process. 

1249
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:13,300
No, I agree and if you I 
obviously know nothing but you 

1250
01:04:13,308 --> 01:04:16,600
know he hasn't dressed since his
injury but then the Iowa game, 

1251
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,500
he was dressed and he was in a 
uniform. 

1252
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,800
Now he didn't play. 
But it's if at that point he 

1253
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,800
knew He's going for the medical 
Redshirt, you probably wouldn't 

1254
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,900
suit up. 
I mean, he wasn't even just 

1255
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:29,800
wearing his warm-ups like he was
at the Jersey like he just was 

1256
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,300
ready to rip off the candy 
stripes and go. 

1257
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,600
So like that was also odd that 
then he's back to street clothes

1258
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,700
after saying, I like this, I 
like detective Scott here, doing

1259
01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:44,500
doing some forensics. 
I needed. 

1260
01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:47,100
I hadn't thought about that, but
that's, that's a good Shout by 

1261
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:50,500
you, it's interesting. 
Yeah, no I agree and I think, 

1262
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:54,000
you know, from from Woodson's 
Did I think there's a lot, you 

1263
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,800
know, there's always a part 
where it's like, God, if you 

1264
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,700
could just get, you know, ten 
minutes of, you know, good 

1265
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:01,500
Xavier, good and healthy Xavier 
Johnson. 

1266
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:05,400
It brings so much this team. 
But, you know, you're asking a 

1267
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,600
lot and, you know, it's just, 
it's a long time to be off and 

1268
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,300
you're coming into high pressure
games. 

1269
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:13,600
And if you're Woodson is like, 
do I want to risk everything? 

1270
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,600
And this guy is, you know, risk,
another year of Xavier just on 

1271
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,500
what could be a game and a half 
or two games, when from a 

1272
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:24,200
program, Aim high level 
perspective. 

1273
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:27,400
This makes a lot of sense 
because now like it Shores up 

1274
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,100
basically a big question mark 
going into next season, you know

1275
01:05:30,107 --> 01:05:32,500
if well jail hit Ruffino and you
lose, you know, you're losing a 

1276
01:05:32,508 --> 01:05:35,500
little you know three starters 
and your point guard now it's 

1277
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:37,500
like all right. 
Well now we have a point guard, 

1278
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:40,000
that's one spot in the portal. 
We don't need to get because 

1279
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,200
there's gonna be a lot of 
question marks this team next 

1280
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,900
year. 
Now, you've kind of already you 

1281
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,300
theoretically gone into the 
portal and got somebody, you got

1282
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,100
save your jobs. 
Well and I think there's one 

1283
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:51,500
other important point and and 
you essentially brought it up 

1284
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:54,900
there already. 
But the portal just much like ni

1285
01:05:54,900 --> 01:06:00,500
L, the portal changes the whole 
equation because it's like, you 

1286
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:03,400
know, under normal circumstances
if I'm Xavier Johnson and I'm 

1287
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,000
looking at potentially coming 
back and playing it, I you for 

1288
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,100
another year. 
I'm like, really like no Trace 

1289
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:12,200
Jackson Davis. 
No, no miller cop, no race 

1290
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,200
Thompson. 
You have a very unsettled 

1291
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,300
frontcourt. 
You've, you're not going to 

1292
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:16,900
jail. 
Hit your fee. 

1293
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:17,900
No. 
So you're going to be alone in 

1294
01:06:17,908 --> 01:06:21,200
the backcourt with what with 
Trey Galloway was, you know, not

1295
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,100
a bad running mate. 
But there's not very much else 

1296
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:27,100
that's proven on this team, you 
know, I mean you've got some 

1297
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:30,200
interesting pieces that have 
done a few things this year and 

1298
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,500
Malik renew and Caleb Banks. 
You've got Tamar Bates who's 

1299
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,600
been a big question mark, you've
got CJ gun who's barely played, 

1300
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:44,100
but the portal means, I think I 
use going to be a big player in 

1301
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:46,000
the portal, this upcoming 
offseason. 

1302
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,600
I mean, I use got the money, 
they've got the cash a they, you

1303
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,200
know, they view their going to 
put to play. 

1304
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,700
Is potentially the first round 
of the NCAA tournament. 

1305
01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:57,700
Maybe one player in the lottery 
there, you know, they they 

1306
01:06:57,700 --> 01:07:01,300
finished in the probably going 
to finish in the top fifteen 

1307
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:04,300
sixteen, the polls there. 
The three seed in the Big Ten 

1308
01:07:04,300 --> 01:07:05,800
tournament. 
They're going to be a top four 

1309
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,900
seed unless something drastic 
that we don't know about has 

1310
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,400
happened with the selection 
committee. 

1311
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:15,100
I use got some juice right now 
and I use going to be a really 

1312
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,500
attractive destination for some 
top level players who are going 

1313
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:21,300
to be like, whoo playing time at
a program that matters 

1314
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:24,000
nationally again. 
N and then enter your point. 

1315
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,400
Like if you're Woodson to you're
hitting it, it's like now I also

1316
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,300
like I can sell. 
Hey, if you're a swing man, I 

1317
01:07:31,300 --> 01:07:33,300
got a point guard for you, but 
this is not theirs. 

1318
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:35,300
That's one question mark, we 
don't need. 

1319
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:39,000
So if I'm a, you know, I'm a 69 
Trio, portal guy. 

1320
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:41,200
It's like, back up. 
His Avery Johnson like that 

1321
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,600
dude. 
Knows how to run a big 10 team 

1322
01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:44,700
like I can go and like I know 
I'm gonna get the ball in the 

1323
01:07:44,707 --> 01:07:47,600
right spot. 
We'll see what happens. 

1324
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
But yeah, that would be my take 
on things and we'll see. 

1325
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,200
I mean, I'm really fascinated to
see how it all plays out and I 

1326
01:07:53,207 --> 01:07:57,200
hope he's back and I hope he 
gets the waiver and I and you 

1327
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,300
know, I'm not here. 
Yeah. 

1328
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,700
And I wasn't more power to and 
look and we'll say it's like 

1329
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:05,700
that's a guy when he's at his, 
Apex he is one of the top, 

1330
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,900
passers and assist man in the 
country. 

1331
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,100
And that's going to be 
attractive for somebody to come 

1332
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:14,400
in and want to play with. 
And and he would be the 

1333
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,800
Undisputed leader. 
Of the team, you know? 

1334
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,200
I mean that that is and that's 
something he really hasn't had 

1335
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,399
throughout his time in college 
and so it'll be interesting to 

1336
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,300
see what happens. 
Certainly anyway, alright, we 

1337
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:29,000
are going to wrap up. 
Thank you Scott as always look 

1338
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,600
forward to talking to you later 
in the week, we hope that 

1339
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,399
everybody out there in 
basketball and enjoys what 

1340
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:38,200
they're watching this week. 
Thanks to Folks at the back home

1341
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,000
network and thanks, don't feel 
apparel. 

1342
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,200
Thanks. 
Don't you folks, for listening 

1343
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,800
for Scott, I'm Galen. 
This is Crimson cast. 

1344
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,800
We will catch you folks on the 
flip side. 

1345
01:08:45,899 --> 01:08:50,399
Side IU plays Friday at nine 
ish, will podcast some time 

1346
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,200
before that to talk about their 
opponent. 

1347
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,300
Bring back the Bison. 
So long, everybody.