1 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:10,200 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:21,300 field apparel, welcome back to Crimson, Cask ale and clavius 3 00:00:21,300 --> 00:00:25,600 got Caulfield joining. You it is the 27th of November. 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,700 So we head into basketball season, full force. 5 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:34,400 Scott, the IU Hoosiers, men's basketball, team at 6 and 0 on 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,000 the season. And we're going to talk about 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 what we saw in the last week, kind of an odd week largely 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 because of the holidays. And also, we're going to talk 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,700 about what's coming up is Indiana really at the point now, 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,900 where the rubber hits the road from a scheduling perspective 11 00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:52,700 and a lot to look forward to a lot of questions. 12 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:57,000 But also a lot of, really fascinating aspects of this IU 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 team to uncover, Scott, first of all, good, See you. 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,300 How you doing? I'm doing great. 15 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:05,700 It's this is I often joke. We got into this to do 16 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:08,800 basketball podcasting. I feel like we do our are the 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 amount of football podcasting we do with the amount of interest. 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,300 I'm having a football seems to be way out of whack so it's nice 19 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:17,400 to now be staring down the barrel of nothing but basketball 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,100 podcast. So let's go. 21 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:23,900 I'm well, I'm with you on that. It's, it's going to be a 22 00:01:23,908 --> 00:01:27,200 fascinating, fascinating winter, and spring before we get to 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,500 that. 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The most recent one was a pretty 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,200 comprehensive Victory. I you defeats Jackson State by 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,700 39. Points. 54 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,300 And then prior to that, they had a bit of a stodgy game in that 55 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,600 day, right? Before Thanksgiving as they 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,400 played Little Rock, they ended up winning that game, 87, 268, 57 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:13,200 some concerns erupted from some segments of the fanbase about, 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,400 you know, they didn't play well against Little Rock this and 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,200 that you, but that largely went away in that Jackson State game 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,000 at least in the second half as the Hoosiers. 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,800 You know, while they didn't blow out, Jackson State in the first 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,900 half, they definitely did in the second half outscoring them, 63 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:32,900 9:41 and The first 10 minutes of the second half and then 2713 64 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:38,500 over the final quarter of play, a big game for tomorrow Bates. 65 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:42,800 In that one he scores 22 points against Jackson State and goes 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,400 for 45 from 2446, from 34 assists. 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 I mean, really as about as complete a game, as we've seen 68 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:53,700 from Tamar Bates in an Indiana uniform albeit against really 69 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:56,700 week competition, but you got to tip your hat to him. 70 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:00,800 He comes in and really gets more minutes than All, but one of the 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,100 starters, I mean, Gentle Touch of pheno ended up playing more 72 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,900 tomorrow Bates, played 24 minutes in that game and I'm 73 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:07,600 really started to look comfortable Scott. 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,200 I thought in an Indiana uniform, that's a really key player for 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,400 this Indiana team to get going, get some confidence in, 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,399 especially in his offensive game because, you know, you're going 77 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:21,200 to have games. As we've seen, were jailed 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,600 Cioppino isn't hitting or Xavier Johnson's in foul trouble. 79 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:29,000 And you know, having a guy like Tamar Bates who's a you know, 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,400 five star. Are you know top recruit guide 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,300 it people were really excited about to have him really start 82 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:36,700 to emerge and feel confident in what he's doing. 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Would be key. You know the next step is just 84 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,000 getting him to do it against better competition than 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,500 Indiana's played thus far. Yeah, I mean, I hear all that. 86 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:48,000 It's tough to be like he's emerging like it's one game 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,600 against Jackson State. Jackson state is where they rank 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,100 now, you know, the three hundred and first team in can pom in the 89 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:59,400 country. And so, you know, I think it's 90 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,200 great. Agree. 91 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,400 If that version of Tamar Bates can play in spurts in bigger 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,500 games than in, you know, even just regular Big 10 games that's 93 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:12,600 going to raise the ceiling of this team but I need to see it 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,300 in a with a little more regularity and I know it's not 95 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:18,400 your sign up, but it's like that's that's the only thing is 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,400 that that's where we need to pump the brakes a little bit. 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Like I got to Goodwin's. We looked really good. 98 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,200 We did one of them without you. No. 99 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Trace Jackson Davis. But you know, I'm getting 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,200 excited now because now it's like All right. 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Now, we kind of get to take our toys out to play like now we're 102 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,300 going to play against Real opponents. 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,200 We're going to play them in a variety of settings. 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,500 You were playing at home. We're playing a neutral site for 105 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:41,900 playing a true Road game. You know, now we get to see how 106 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:44,600 this fits up and now I think we get to see if you tomorrow. 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,400 Bates has a similar performance to that against North Carolina, 108 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:50,800 you know. Now it's like all right maybe we 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,800 can plug this into other games throughout the year. 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,100 But there's also I mean there's also like, you know, last year 111 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:58,000 you had robbed fantasy, do it once against Purdue and then 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,700 never do it again. Well, So I don't I mean okay I 113 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,400 don't know if I totally agree with that because yes, obviously 114 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,900 be great if tomorrow Bates scored, 22 points against North 115 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,900 Carolina. But I think the big thing for 116 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:11,900 me, you know, there's certain things. 117 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:16,600 I think that you can take out of playing games against these 118 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,000 sorts of opponents, which is, how are you taking care of the 119 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,800 basketball? How are you playing defense 120 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,600 defense was a bit suspect against Xavier for tomorrow 121 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,900 Bates. And certainly that is a bit of a 122 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:28,400 concern against better competition. 123 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Especially teams that can punish View from outside. 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,800 But you know, the big thing that I noticed with Tamar Bates, when 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,000 you dig into the statistics is the following. 126 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,500 I mean, last year he was among Indiana's, most inefficient 127 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:42,800 offensive players. He he turned the ball over way 128 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,300 too much, he didn't really do anything. 129 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:48,800 In terms of generating assists, his shooting was really bad, 130 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,100 and, and just in general, he kind of took a bunch of things 131 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:57,200 off the table last year, now this year, and yes, it's early, 132 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,600 but it's not that early Indiana's through essentially, 133 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:02,000 Fifth of their season. I'm going to play 31 regular 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 season games. They're already through six of 135 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,600 them and you look at it, he's shooting 39% from three on 18 136 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,100 shots which is not insignificant for, you know, six games, that's 137 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:18,100 three threes a game, he's shooting 79 percent from two, 138 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:19,800 which is among the best to point field goal. 139 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,500 Percentages in the country it's top 25 and his assistant 140 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:27,300 turnover rate is almost one-to-one at this point and 141 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:32,300 that is that is big because ultimately Mately even if that's 142 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:35,500 not even, even if you're not going to get volume of numbers, 143 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:38,900 if you can have Tamar Bates eliminating, a lot of the 144 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:42,800 mistakes and a lot of the poor shooting that we saw basically 145 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,900 through the entire year last year from him, even if it's only 146 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:50,600 happening right now, in games against minnows, I think it's a 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,100 good sign because he's a lot more likely to make passes take 148 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:57,500 shots. Do the kinds of things that are 149 00:07:57,500 --> 00:07:59,700 needed from a guy that's in the second unit. 150 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:01,700 And really needs to play as hard out there. 151 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,700 That these are the little things that I look for where I'm like, 152 00:08:04,900 --> 00:08:07,600 okay, there's something to build off of there, you know? 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,200 And, and just extrapolating off of that. 154 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,200 It feels like he's more into being a college basketball, like 155 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,300 regular this year than he was prepared to be last year, not 156 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:19,800 just at this time, but throughout the course of the 157 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,300 season, I agree with that and we can get off the microscope into 158 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:27,400 our baits, but it's like, yeah. The the flip side to that is in 159 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,500 the one game against A legitimate opponent on the road. 160 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:34,000 He had 12 minutes of 0, offensive rating, in three, 161 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,700 personal fouls, unquestionably. I'm so psyched. 162 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,900 And that was a week ago, so I hear all that. 163 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:43,200 I want to see him do well, but it's like in the one real test, 164 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,300 he didn't do awesome. So, that's where again, this 165 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:49,200 next week and a half. These next two or three weeks 166 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,300 are going to be fun for me. Because now you're going to have 167 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,500 one, two, three, four, five, five games where you going to 168 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:59,700 get a nice sample size to see what he does, is he could have 169 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:02,700 They're stinker in there. But if he has progression some 170 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:05,700 of those games, I think we'll be able, we'll know more after 171 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,800 December 17th. You look across the rest of the 172 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,200 roster and there's a lot of really promising signs for this 173 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Indiana team that I think everybody should keep in mind. 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,600 I mean, first of all, the three-point shooting this year 175 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,000 and again through some not great competition. 176 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:26,000 But three point shooting does tend to somewhat travel a little 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,800 bit better. It's a little more independent 178 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,600 of defensive effort on the opposition. 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,300 I mean, you know, last year Indiana had their best 180 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:36,000 three-point shooting season in a while and they finished 33.3 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,300 percent from three. That was 200 in the nation this 182 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:40,400 year. Through the first fifth of the 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Season. Indiana is 38.3 percent from 184 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,700 three which is 37th in the country. 185 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,300 And that's that's a really good sign you. 186 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:53,900 Take several of the players that people have had questions about 187 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:55,900 in terms of their ability to hit from outside. 188 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,100 Xavier Johnson through 6 games is 8. 12 from three, shooting 189 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:06,300 67% from the three-point line Miller cop through 6 games is 13 190 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:09,800 for 25 from three. He's shooting, 52% Tamar Bates. 191 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Who I mentioned is shooting 39% from three, and, you know, even 192 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,000 George Geronimo, he's taken six, he's made two of them. 193 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,500 That's a 33 percent, Mark, I look at that and I say to 194 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:23,600 myself. Yeah. 195 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,300 Okay. You haven't gotten three-point 196 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:26,800 shooting of? No, Doubt of race, Thompson. 197 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,700 Jay Levine has been a little bit questionable, little bit. 198 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,500 Pointing from long range. But the fact that Indiana is 199 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:35,500 getting a higher level of three-point shooting already, 200 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,700 even if it's not at the volume that some people would like to 201 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:40,100 see. That's where you get that one or 202 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:42,900 two possession difference based upon some of the results last 203 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:45,100 year. And again, I think the fact that 204 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:47,200 you're see, I mean, I don't expect Miller cop to shoot 52 205 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,600 percent from three for the season. 206 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,000 I don't expect Xavier Johnson to shoot that well from three for 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,000 the season, but they didn't need to shoot 45 or 50 percent 13. 208 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,600 They needed to shoot like 38 percent from three and they both 209 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,200 look like that as well with. In range and that is a big game 210 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,600 changer for what Indiana can do offensively. 211 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,200 If that carries through the rest of the season, that's been the 212 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,400 issue with this team for five years is they just don't have 213 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,300 that three-point shooting and you see it, it just it the 214 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:19,000 ability to push things forward and you know extend leads and 215 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,600 get little runs that is really the missing link for this team. 216 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,400 I think you're hitting on it because we have a given and it's 217 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,500 just there, which is if we're not hitting We are still one of 218 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,700 the most efficient scoring teams in the country. 219 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:37,400 Just I'll be at it to with Tres Jackson, Davis with Malik renew 220 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:40,100 with, you know, a little bit of Ray stops and like, just our 221 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:43,600 front line down there is probably the most efficient 222 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,800 scoring big men in the country. Like when you put all three of 223 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,000 them together and I was thinking about this too, you know, I 224 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,800 think Jalen Hood should be no, has shown a lot of talent. 225 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,100 He's shown that he belongs as a college player, but it was 226 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:58,700 interesting to start the year. All the talk was you've got is 227 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:01,200 the one and done like this. Is this guy, is you here for a 228 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 year and it's like having watched five or six games again 229 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:08,700 against different competition. I come away being like I think 230 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:10,300 hoods Ruffino will be here next year. 231 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:12,000 I think Malik renew could be gone next. 232 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,500 You like watching this is like renew. 233 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:18,300 Looks like he he's at a different level in a positive 234 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:20,400 way you're already seeing like he's nationally. 235 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,500 Ranked for offensive rebounding, defensive rebounding, you know, 236 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:28,600 blocks and steals that he is doing so many things and it 237 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,200 feels like he has so Much room to grow. 238 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:36,200 I've just been so impressed by him and it really provides this 239 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,100 kind of like you have those years where it's like, you know, 240 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:40,500 Purdue became the, you know, the Cradle quarterback. 241 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:42,000 So you know, Penn State linebacker you. 242 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,200 It feels like we're, you know, Frontline, Frontline, University 243 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,800 or your power forward University. 244 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,800 It's like betray sex and Davis with race Thompson down renew. 245 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,100 It's like, we have this great, this great power line that we 246 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:56,300 have. I mean, I yeah, I agree with the 247 00:12:56,300 --> 00:12:59,600 last part, I don't think renew is a danger to leave. 248 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,600 After one year because we'll have less things between those 249 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,400 two. Well, well I think you know what 250 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,600 I mean? Hold, your fee. 251 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,900 No, is still old more likely candidate. 252 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,800 I mean, he's still in second round mock drafts, you know, so 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,500 it's but there's a couple of things at play. 254 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,800 And we're really early on all this obviously. 255 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,800 But one of the things to keep in mind is that there are a lot of 256 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,400 players that are like Malik renew. 257 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:26,900 There's a lot of 6 67 to 69 guys who have that skill set, you 258 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:29,400 know, but he's not a he's not a lights out, outside shooter. 259 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:33,300 He's certainly more physical. We'll have to see how he 260 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,100 measures up in the Big Ten, because from a physicality 261 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:38,300 perspective, I think he'll be able to handle himself, but we 262 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:40,500 haven't really seen him against that level of competition. 263 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:42,400 It'll be really fascinating watching him. 264 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,300 In this, next run of games against North Carolina's 265 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:48,400 interior against Rutgers interior on the road. 266 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,400 So on and so forth. But also you've got an IL, 267 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,700 you've got g-league, it's a lot harder for a player. 268 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:59,200 Like, Malik renew, who doesn't come in heralded to work your 269 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,400 way up. Uh, draft boards. 270 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,700 When there's better options in the g-league, or there's better 271 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:06,200 options that are playing overseas, which is good for 272 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,800 Indiana. Because to be able to bring 273 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,700 players of the athletic caliber and talent of Jalen Hood Ruffino 274 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:15,600 and Malik were new in, and not have them leave immediately to 275 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,000 some degree, that's been one of the big elements that's been 276 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 missing out of IU basketball for the last. 277 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:22,000 I don't know ten years essentially. 278 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,300 So that, anyway, moving on, the other things that have stuck out 279 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:31,700 to me, this far, From Indiana, especially as it relates to the 280 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:33,900 broader landscape of college basketball. 281 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:37,000 Is that this is a pretty balanced team and, you know, 282 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,900 even more so than we thought, we spent a lot of time in the 283 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:44,100 preseason asking does this. Indiana team have what it takes 284 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:47,800 to elevate their offensive, efficiency into the top 30. 285 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:52,700 Last year, as we talked about Indiana was 95th in the nation 286 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:55,700 in offensive, efficiency. And that was barely enough to 287 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:58,700 get them into the NCAA tournament, the previous year. 288 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:01,200 Here they were 70th and offensive efficiency. 289 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,300 The previous year, they were 65th and so they have been for a 290 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:08,300 while a team, a program where the offense is simply not 291 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:12,700 measured up this year again, early, but they are 15 in the 292 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:16,000 nation and offensive efficiency, their 14th and defensive 293 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,100 efficiency, which also represents a step forward again 294 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,200 early, but still a step forward when you look around the 295 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,300 landscape at the kind of, you know, the mishmash of by games. 296 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:32,400 And neutral site tournaments that other teams of cobbled 297 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,900 together, you see, a lot of teams whose weight is on one 298 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:40,600 foot or the other foot and Indiana is one of the few where 299 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,800 they're playing both sides about equally. 300 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,100 I mean, you look at Arizona, who India is going to play in a 301 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:47,800 couple of weeks, that's the top-rated offense in the 302 00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:50,300 country, from an efficiency perspective, their 50th 303 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,300 defensively the ago, the other direction like Tennessee is 48th 304 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:58,500 in the country on offense, their second and defense. 305 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,700 And you know, whether you look at Ken Palm or Indiana's 15th 306 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:05,000 and 14th, or whether you look at, you know, torvik, where 307 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Indiana, because that takes more of the current Year's statistics 308 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,600 into play is twentieth and twenty second either way, I 309 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,900 think it's really exciting to see a really balanced Indiana 310 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:17,100 team. Who's able to rely on both sides 311 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:19,300 of the ball and is an over-reliance on one of the 312 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:21,400 other. That's a that's kind of a rarity 313 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:23,900 when it comes to IU basketball, in general, even had a whole 314 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:27,500 team whole lot of teams that have felt balanced in both 315 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:30,100 phases of play. That's a great point. 316 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:33,100 And then, you know, you're looking around the larger 317 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,800 landscape. These look at the Big Ten. 318 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:37,600 Hold on. One second. 319 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:41,900 Yeah, give me five minutes. All right? 320 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,300 More like 90. Okay, wow. 321 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Yeah, that was just a just Scott. 322 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:52,300 Just absolutely refusing to get back down in the post by his 323 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:53,400 kids. That's awesome. 324 00:16:54,700 --> 00:16:56,800 Yeah. No, I'm a pro. 325 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,300 I'm not, I need to buy one of those like, you know, on are 326 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:02,100 lights and put on my phone, like, I'm sure I'm sure you're 327 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:03,900 getting having, your kids are see the all they're like, oh no, 328 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,300 we couldn't possibly bother Daddy because the, yeah, you 329 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,500 know, it's so Kevin. I want, I can't think like that 330 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:09,500 Trump's all. No, no. 331 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:13,000 Your the That you made is I'm looking at just in the Big Ten 332 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,900 you know / do you have some teams have better offenses and 333 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,900 you have some T's a better defense has but Purdue as a 334 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:20,599 seventh ranked offense. But the thirty eighth ranked 335 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:25,000 defense have Ohio state with the fifth offense 63rd defense Iowa 336 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,300 with the six offense. But 68th defense. 337 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:30,400 You have Northwestern with the 8th, ranked defense, but the 338 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,800 151st offense. So your point is valid in that 339 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,000 when you look across the Big Ten landscape, you know, Michigan 340 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 state is, 26 offense, 35th defense or there. 341 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:43,000 They're kind of on even footing but both of those are lower than 342 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,600 where Indiana is like Indiana. Would you look at that doesn't 343 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,700 have the best offense in the Big Ten does not the best defense 344 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:50,500 and again we don't know the full competition of everybody what 345 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:52,300 they played. But your point is valid within 346 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:56,300 the Big Ten, we look to have the most balanced team and it's just 347 00:17:56,308 --> 00:18:02,300 I mean you know this doesn't predict success but definitely 348 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:06,100 when you have one of those that's not in the top 50 in can 349 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:09,100 Palm, you're going to have issues with either your defense 350 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:12,000 or offense. Mele teams, you know, I don't 351 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,600 expect us to finish the season in the top 20 in both. 352 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,900 But if we're somewhere in this range in that top 20 range in 353 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:21,800 both offense and defense, that's the harbinger of a team that's 354 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,900 going to have a very successful year, one would hope. 355 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,500 And certainly we're going to learn a lot about how this team 356 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:32,500 handles things over the course of the next couple of weeks. 357 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:36,000 And you know, when you look at this schedule it's a really it's 358 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,900 a fascinating set of games because I don't know that Any of 359 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:45,700 them with the possible exception of Nebraska at home are games 360 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,600 where you could definitively say that, you know, how things are 361 00:18:48,608 --> 00:18:51,000 going to go. I mean, North Carolina, went 362 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,800 from looking like, they were to be the number one team in the 363 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,900 country, coming into the game against Indiana to. 364 00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:00,500 I don't even think they've looked like a top 20 team, thus 365 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,900 far, I mean, they have really struggled they, I was saying all 366 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:05,400 the way up at, like we win Xavier. 367 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,800 We have a great matchup. Like I didn't think North 368 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,300 Carolina would be the one who wouldn't right and bring it to 369 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:11,500 that game, but yeah. We're we might be ranked higher 370 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:13,500 than them in that game. Well, what's interesting about 371 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:14,800 this? North Carolina team is they're 372 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,500 just not playing defense. I mean their 50th in the country 373 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:19,300 thus far in defensive efficiency. 374 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,200 They're not turning opponents over and they're you know, 375 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,800 they're essentially the kind of weirdly offensively this North 376 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,200 Carolina team, looks a little bit like Indiana did last year 377 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,100 where they're not hitting threes they're doing almost all of 378 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:36,600 their damage on the inside and they're doing a lot of 379 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,600 individuals stuff. Like they're they're not there's 380 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,500 not a lot of Cysts being doled out. 381 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,600 And you look at what it North Carolina is done thus far on the 382 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,000 season. They struggled a bit against 383 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,900 Wilmington. They struggled a bit against 384 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:51,300 Charleston, they struggled a lot against Gardner-Webb. 385 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,300 They, they won by sick, 14, 16 points against James Madison. 386 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:57,900 And then they really struggled with Portland. 387 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,700 Now, with against Iowa State, I actually thought they played 388 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:04,600 fairly well and they got a bit unlucky because they ran into a 389 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,600 player, this was kind of like, you know, that that Legendary 390 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,600 game against was it Rob Wilson. Was it Rob Wilson for Wisconsin? 391 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,100 That Indiana played against in the 2012, Big Ten Tournament, 392 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,700 where you just like, scored 35 points and hadn't done anything, 393 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:20,600 like Caleb grill, for Iowa State in this game. 394 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,500 I mean, this is a guy in Caleb Grill who is, you know, not his 395 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:32,600 previous season high this year was 11 points and he had hit for 396 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,700 total 3s All Season. He hit seven in that game 397 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:38,700 against North Carolina on the day after Thanksgiving. 398 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:42,800 And but you know, All that said, it's not the North Carolina is 399 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,500 an untalented team, but they just not look, tremendously 400 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:48,400 impressive. Thus far, and this was always a 401 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,200 question mark with this North Carolina team because they 402 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,700 weren't that good last year either. 403 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:59,100 And they essentially got hot at the right time, you know, they 404 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:03,400 were 18 and 8 and 10 and 5 after losing to Pitt on the 16th of 405 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,700 February last year. And we're in real danger of not 406 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:08,800 making the NCAA tournament and then went on a big run at the 407 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,700 end of the season. And in a big run in the NCAA 408 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:13,900 tournament, that's what led them to the ranking that they had. 409 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:17,100 But they were they were a flawed team last year. 410 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,500 They look like a flawed team this year. 411 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:22,100 I think this game looks a lot more winnable for Indiana than 412 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:26,400 it did when the ratings came out in the schedule came out and 413 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,100 everybody's like, ooh this could be a fascinating one at this 414 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:31,700 point. I'll be disappointed in Indiana. 415 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:35,800 If they don't win this game and cover the Ken Palm spread which 416 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,200 right now is Five Points because I think right now, looking at 417 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,800 the statistics, Looking at the Players involved, I think 418 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,200 Indiana's and objectively better team and when you add in, what 419 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,500 should be the Assembly Hall advantage that day? 420 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,500 It would be a disappointment at this stage of Indiana didn't 421 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:53,100 come away with a victory. Yep, II agree. 422 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,800 You look at beyond that and then it's like, you know, the game at 423 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Rutgers, you get a tough, you get a tough first game at 424 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,300 Rucker, they really do it's not nothing is a must-win in 425 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:07,000 December but you know Rutgers is a team that, you know, 34th and 426 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,100 Ken Palm but we pull them up real quick. 427 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:12,600 They They're one of the again the defense really good at 21st 428 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,000 with our offense 106 in the country but that's a game where, 429 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,000 you know, if you're going to compete for a Big Ten title, you 430 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,300 kind of have to win those games at Rutgers because there's going 431 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:28,800 to be tough games against Illinois against Michigan State. 432 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,900 You know that that's one of those games where it's not easy, 433 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:34,800 it's not a given, but those kind of midweek, you know, midweek at 434 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,500 Rutgers. Those are the games that teams 435 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:38,900 that win the Big 10 win. It just sucks. 436 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:42,800 It comes as the very First game of the season of The Big Ten 437 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,500 season, but it's like that is that's a big game. 438 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:48,600 Like that's a big game and like I do think if you're going to 439 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,000 win the Big Ten, starting off to an do is, you know, one in one 440 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 is okay, but 2 and 0 is really where you need to be. 441 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000 So you're you're in the spot where I'm with you, like the 442 00:22:58,008 --> 00:23:01,100 North Carolina game. Now feels like a game that we 443 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,800 should win with the home team, but you went with the home crowd 444 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,000 but then it's like going into those Rutgers Nebraska games. 445 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,600 It's like I'm kind of looking at. 446 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,900 Like I'd love to see a 3 and 0 stretch over the next. 447 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,700 Well, the big thing for Indiana with this game being on the 448 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:16,600 road, is, you know, the what happened with Indiana a lot last 449 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,400 year in the games that they played poorly in on the road was 450 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,900 that their offense, basically abandoned them, you know, it 451 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:28,200 happened in, you know, it happened in the in several of 452 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200 the games that we saw Indiana, struggle in where they just 453 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,400 weren't able to score. Efficiently enough to give 454 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,700 themselves a chance and sometimes that even came and 455 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,800 went in the game itself. I mean, the there was the second 456 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,300 half of the Wisconsin game. Sure, which I know everybody 457 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,300 remembers with not so fond. Recollections was a case of 458 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,900 that. So this is the kind of game that 459 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:52,000 Indiana if they are. As you said a legitimate 460 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,500 Contender for the Big Ten title, this is the kind of game that 461 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,600 you have to win. Rutgers is clearly still getting 462 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000 their feet under them. You know, they're playing very 463 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,600 good defense. There they are the best 3-point 464 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,300 defensive team in the country which I think could hurt a bunch 465 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:08,400 of teams. Ironically, I don't think it 466 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,300 hurts Indiana nearly as much. Because Indiana doesn't have to 467 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:14,400 be reliant on three in order to be successful. 468 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:17,600 It also might be that because, I mean, Rutgers has played a bunch 469 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,100 of really bad three-point shooting teams thus far. 470 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:23,000 They have not had a murderer's row from a scheduling 471 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,500 perspective, you know? But look Rutgers is head 472 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:28,300 Indiana's number over the course of the last few years. 473 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:32,200 You know, Steve pikul, I think is an excellent coach and even 474 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,600 without the name, brand players that we are used to seeing you 475 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,300 know whether it's Ron Harper, jr. 476 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:42,700 Or Geo Baker. This is a team that's going to 477 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:46,300 play a very compact style, a very energetic style and 478 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:47,800 Indiana's. Watch these games get away from 479 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600 them before. So it's like, that is quite a 480 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,600 double whammy in a week to have to go from what will, if it goes 481 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,500 right? Be a huge emotional high at 482 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,400 North Carolina. I'm all that to some degree. 483 00:24:57,408 --> 00:25:01,100 I'm really glad from the perspective of The Narrative of 484 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:05,600 Indiana season that North Carolina is assuredly, not going 485 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,000 to go into that game as the number one team because now it's 486 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 it's just going to be a game against a good opponent. 487 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,100 It's not going to be Indiana beat the number one team at home 488 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,600 assuming that they win. And now you gotta come down off 489 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,100 that emotional high and go on the road and play it Rutgers a 490 00:25:21,108 --> 00:25:23,600 place where you haven't played well now, it's like, okay, maybe 491 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,200 they're going to beat the 8th ranked team in the country. 492 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,500 Well, that's still good but that, that you don't feel if 493 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,400 you're if Woodson and I think Woodson's very good at this, if 494 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,400 Woodson's doing his job, your team doesn't walk out of that 495 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,200 win. If they beat North Carolina 496 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,500 thinking, wow, we really accomplished Something, you know 497 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:44,300 they're not this is not like, I don't know like you know going 498 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,200 into halftime with the 7-3 lead your. 499 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,100 This is just like okay check that off. 500 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,300 That was another challenge. Let's move on to the next one 501 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,800 because we got more work to do. That's a great. 502 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,900 That's a, that's a great point and you saw it a little bit 503 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:59,700 being different circumstance to be saw it last year, you know, 504 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:02,000 where they beat Purdue at home and then turned around and just 505 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 had an absolute cut against Michigan. 506 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,300 And so I do think that's something that you have about 507 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:08,200 the same kind of it's a Wednesday to Saturday, turn 508 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,900 around. Yeah. 509 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:11,100 Now, Course, that was home and home. 510 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,700 This will be home in the road. May, I think that also helps a 511 00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:17,200 little bit to that, you know, no matter how that I think your 512 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,700 point is is a great point about the number one team. 513 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:23,300 But I do also think is also nice having that game on the road 514 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:27,100 where you beat North Carolina, if you beat North Carolina, 515 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,900 it'll be a big win, but there's kind of a nice like alright, 516 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:31,600 let's leave all that here. We're gonna pack up, get on a 517 00:26:31,608 --> 00:26:34,700 plane, and go to New Jersey versus staying in Bloomington, 518 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:38,100 and kind of reveling in it. I think being on the road for 519 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:41,600 that helps Helps as well. But then you come home and it's 520 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,200 like then there's, you know this again, this is a Nebraska team 521 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,200 that you got to beat, but I have no concern about that. 522 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,700 I mean, they've shown against some of these, you know, the 523 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,500 thing that I take away from some of these games against the 524 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,100 Little Rock's and Morehead State's is this team has shown 525 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,200 even without Jackson Davis, which was nice like they can 526 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,600 handle and take care of bad opponents, which I know seems 527 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,100 like a given, but that was something even under the Archie 528 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,600 error, like the, some of these games against Bad opponents was 529 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,400 touch and go into Ooh, the middle of the second half where 530 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,500 it's like why is this still? You know, the other team hit a 531 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,700 couple threes and it's like suddenly a six-point game like 532 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:18,300 what why are we still screwing around with this. 533 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,500 Like this team has shown an ability to basically put these 534 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:24,100 games Out Of Reach at a point in. 535 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,100 You know, late in the first half Row in the second half for I'm 536 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,600 I'd be shocked if you know Nebraska. 537 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,400 Keeps that really close in the second half? 538 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:33,100 Yeah. No. 539 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:36,400 I mean and look I don't want to overstate it too much because 540 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,300 you know they did they put away Jackson State last year. 541 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,800 They went by Big of a margin, the difference was like last 542 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,300 year, you know, in those games. Indiana is last year in the, in 543 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:47,900 the by games, to start the season. 544 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:49,500 I'm going to take the st. John's game out of it, because 545 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,700 that was a Gavotte game and that was a much closer one, but 546 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,500 Indiana, scored sixty, eight, against Eastern Michigan, 85 547 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:58,700 against Northern Illinois, 76 against louisiana-lafayette, 70 548 00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:02,100 against Jackson, State and 90 against Marshall. 549 00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,200 But they had to, again, that game because Marshall was just 550 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,700 going nuts from outside this year. 551 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:11,700 They've scored 88 101, 86 87 and Significant difference in terms 552 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:13,700 of Indiana's ability to put points on the board. 553 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:14,900 And this kind of goes back to my tomorrow. 554 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:17,200 Bates Point earlier. It's like, I do think that will 555 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,000 carry because I think it demonstrates how much better 556 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Indiana's offense is functionally, like, 557 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,600 structurally, even versus what it was last year, let alone 558 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,400 previous years. Anyway, you move forward. 559 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,100 I mean, Nebraska really doesn't look like that much of a 560 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,800 challenge right now. And maybe that's, you know, that 561 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800 might be frightening to think about. 562 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:44,600 But Nebraska's, got 3 wins. None of whom are against teams 563 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,300 that are ranked higher than 306th in Ken pom and, you know, 564 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,800 they lost by 20 to st. John's, they lost by 13 to 565 00:28:52,808 --> 00:28:55,000 Oklahoma, they lost by 12 to Memphis. 566 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,900 They are glacial on offense. They really don't do very much. 567 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:01,100 Well, at all in any phase of the game. 568 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,400 That's the kind of game, but your point where you're like a 569 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,300 little bit nervous, like, yeah, this is where I think for IU 570 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:08,800 fans. This is kind of like coming out 571 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,600 of a bad relationship. Like, I know it's bad timing 572 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,400 because Ohio state is lost. When you look at Ohio State 573 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,100 football fans, like they just go into everything like we should 574 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:19,400 win by two touchdowns and there does come a point where you 575 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,400 know, kind of as act as if like I don't want to get 576 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,000 overconfident but if we're going to be back to that program, I 577 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,500 remember you. And I grew up in the mid-90s. 578 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:30,300 Like this was the version of a Wisconsin game at home. 579 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:32,900 It's like Wisconsin was a dead in the water basketball program 580 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:34,500 in the early 90s? Yes, kids. 581 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:35,800 Look it up. They didn't often always were 582 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800 good. It's like I never was concerned 583 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,500 about playing Wisconsin, in Northwestern, it's like, well, 584 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,900 that's That's like playing Jackson State like, you know, 585 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:45,600 we'll put them away and I don't want to be overconfident a fan, 586 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,500 but I do think, you know, if we keep on saying is if we're going 587 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,800 to be a team competing for a Big Ten title and we're going to do 588 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,700 that year in year out, there does come some arrogance with 589 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,600 that. It also means that you just you 590 00:29:56,608 --> 00:29:59,000 don't win a Big Ten title losing home games in Nebraska. 591 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,700 And so it's like this is if that's what we're going to be 592 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,500 then you kind of have to look at this as like all right that's a 593 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,500 w. We're moving on. 594 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,100 Not not to piss on your point. No. 595 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,300 I mean, but I understand where you're coming from. 596 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,700 I feel the same. Same thing, but it's like, we 597 00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,800 almost need to move past that, but my point was actually going 598 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,300 to be that, this feels like the kind of game that Indiana can 599 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:20,100 cruise through try different things. 600 00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,500 Reset a little bit rest, some players in advance of Arizona. 601 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,500 Now, some in the past, we have seen those types of games. 602 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:30,900 Not work out, but Nebraska looks singularly, unsuited to being 603 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,600 competitive in that kind of a game at this point. 604 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,700 And that, that's going to be a really fascinating thing to 605 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,000 watch. And it's interesting because 606 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,600 like, that's Lee, that's Northwest Nebraska's. 607 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,100 First game, first Big Ten game because they play that 608 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,900 Wednesday. And then they have to go back 609 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:52,200 home to play pro do on Saturday, but proceeding that they've got 610 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,300 Creighton on the road. So, it's, it's a tough 611 00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:00,600 turnaround for that Nebraska team in general, because they 612 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,900 mean they've got Florida State today. 613 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:06,000 They've got Boston College on Wednesday in the ACC, Big Ten 614 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 challenge at home and then they're at Creighton and then at 615 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,300 Indiana they may be a no. Mental shape to do anything, let 616 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,900 alone physical shape. When that game rolls around the 617 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:16,800 last two games. I wanted to tackle since we're 618 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 kind of, this is like the second fifth of the season. 619 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,000 The the second 20%, you got Arizona and you've got Kansas. 620 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,400 And I think most people myself included went into the season 621 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,400 thinking, well they got a real shot against Arizona. 622 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,100 And the Kansas game is going to be a bridge too far flip and it 623 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,700 feels wet and I don't and I don't think Indiana doesn't have 624 00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:39,800 a shot against Arizona but I am incredibly. 625 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,200 Fascinated by the matchup that is shaping up because clearly, 626 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,900 this Arizona team is really good. 627 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:50,300 Like they are, they are the third most efficient offense in 628 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:51,900 the country. They have the highest effective 629 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,600 field goal percentage, Indiana. Second by the way, an effective 630 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,800 field goal percentage. Its these are the top two teams 631 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,800 and effective field goal percentage, which for those of 632 00:31:58,808 --> 00:32:03,000 you who don't remember that is counting three point shots as 633 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,700 one and a half as opposed to one, you know, Arizona we're 634 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,000 goes real fast, they turn the ball over a bunch of And they 635 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,400 don't care, they're shooting. 45% from 360 7.4% from to, and 636 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,900 they have been a Marvel to watch especially over these last few 637 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:26,000 games. They end up winning in Maui and 638 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,000 they're you know I mean certainly you get you you're 639 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,500 impressed by how well they played against San Diego State, 640 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:34,900 who a lot of people think is a good team. 641 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,500 You're less impressed by the fact that gave up 93 points to 642 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:39,100 Cincinnati. Who's not very good. 643 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,800 You're less. That they let Creighton come 644 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,600 back at the end. Cratons, a good team. 645 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,300 I don't know what to expect out of an Indiana. 646 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:49,000 Arizona matchup on a neutral floor because it's like, does 647 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,100 Indiana's defense. Get overrun by a team that goes 648 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:55,000 that fast with the quality and caliber of athletes. 649 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,200 That Arizona has I mean, Arizona's got Omar below, who's 650 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,400 a 7-foot 260-pound guy, you know, that, you know, two 651 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,100 Bella's has played really well, he's 611 they've got good guards 652 00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,100 or does Indiana's defense fine. We put up an obstacle that 653 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:15,200 Arizona can't run around. I really that game might be 654 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,700 low-key shaping up to be one of the best non-conference matchups 655 00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:23,300 in all of college basketball, because of how diametrically 656 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,800 opposed, those two forces are Indiana's abilities on defense 657 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,600 and Arizona's ability to run the ball and score. 658 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,900 Yeah. And considering how teams have 659 00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:34,600 lost and where it's gone. I mean, that could be we could 660 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,400 both be ranked in the top five at that point. 661 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,500 Yeah. It could be like, you know, two 662 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,100 verses for matchup like this. This could One of the Premier 663 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:44,200 non-conference games. Yeah, because I mean Arizona, I 664 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,300 mean they've only got two games between now and then they play 665 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:48,900 Utah on the road, which probably gonna lose that angry, that big 666 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,600 of a challenge and they get cow at home Cal is the Nebraska of 667 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,000 the Pac-12, you know? So. 668 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800 And they're going to get a significant amount of rest. 669 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,900 They've got a whole week off, leading into that game. 670 00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:01,300 Whereas Indiana has to play against Nebraska where, you 671 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,100 know, we'll probably see a healthy dose of Caleb Banks. 672 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:07,600 And CJ gun, I'm guessing in that game but you know, but it's, it 673 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,900 is going to be a fascinating matchup and you're Right? 674 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,699 I mean if Indiana beats North Carolina and they beat Rutgers, 675 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:16,000 there's a real good shot at that point that they start getting 676 00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:19,300 full levels of respect from the voting public, not that it 677 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:20,600 matters. I mean, the rankings at this 678 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000 point don't matter that. It's just it's just window 679 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,699 dressing but that is a really exciting game now even more so 680 00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:30,199 than it was before now that we see how Arizona is actually 681 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,199 going to play and that their pieces mesh really well 682 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,699 together. Yeah, well and this goes back to 683 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,100 I'm so happy that we're doing this. 684 00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:40,500 I hope that we continue like I would have Up to seen us in a 685 00:34:40,507 --> 00:34:42,300 preseason tournament. I think that will come next 686 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:44,900 year, but this is something that you've always said, like, no 687 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,100 matter what happens that game, assuming we don't get, you know, 688 00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:52,300 just boat race by 30, that game a game against Arizona on a 689 00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:55,000 neutral site, that is going to hold up. 690 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,900 Well, when it comes, tournament time, honestly whether we win or 691 00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,400 lose like winning would be great, but even a close loss, 692 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,500 like that's a game that holds up so much better than a win 693 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,700 against Jackson State at home. Like having these games against 694 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,700 top, tier opponents, is just going to help. 695 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,800 Our resume so much more. So I'm I'm so happy, we're 696 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,500 getting that. And also, you know it helps 697 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,600 supercharge your program because if we both come into that 698 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,600 undefeated, the winner that game is going to get first place 699 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,500 votes. Again, doesn't matter like none 700 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,000 of this matters but it also doesn't hurt. 701 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:27,600 It doesn't hurt. If Indiana gets me. 702 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,700 Right. Third, and get some first-place 703 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:32,600 votes, like that stuff. I will go get just do a 180 704 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,300 right now. It doesn't matter. 705 00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:36,100 Like it does getting that kind of press is nice and it helps 706 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,900 you no matter what. I have a hard time seeing us, 707 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,700 you know? By the end of December, 17th. 708 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,800 We're going to have a loss or two. 709 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,400 I just yeah, even as much as good as I think Indiana is I 710 00:35:47,408 --> 00:35:50,000 have a hard time seeing us winning neutral site against 711 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,900 Arizona, going into Kansas and winning their but I'm with you. 712 00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:56,100 I think that Arizona game I'm super excited I'm going it's 713 00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:59,500 going to be a fun, you know, matchup. 714 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:03,700 And I also think it's a nice neutral Court game in that, it's 715 00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:05,600 going to be a fun fun Arena. I think you're going to have a 716 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,500 lot of Arizona fans there, so it might even be a pseudo Road game 717 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,000 in Arizona and Vegas. Really close but I think I'll be 718 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,900 a good Indiana contingent as well. 719 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:14,300 But yeah. No. 720 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,700 It's I'm with you. It's funny how that everyone's 721 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:20,000 kind of focusing on the North Carolina game is like that's 722 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200 going to be the premier matchup. And really, it looks like the 723 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,700 Indiana. Arizona matchup is going, is 724 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,200 going to be that. Well, and then I think you also 725 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000 have to take into account the last game that we'll talk about 726 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,200 before we wrap up, which is that Kansas game, which I think a lot 727 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,900 of people looked at that and said, well they're not going to 728 00:36:34,908 --> 00:36:38,200 go into, you know, Lawrence and beat Kansas. 729 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,500 And yet this Kansas seen us look. 730 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,800 Pretty good right now. In there they have the win over 731 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000 Duke Duke itself, does not look great. 732 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,900 They, they struggled against a pretty good NC State team in 733 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,300 Atlantis. They got taken to overtime and 734 00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:56,100 needed a wild, like, very improbable weigh in, at the 735 00:36:56,100 --> 00:37:00,100 buzzer in overtime to beat Wisconsin, and then they lose 736 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,700 decisively to Tennessee. They always score 60 or 50 737 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,100 points in that game, they lose by 14. 738 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600 This is a Kansas team that is does not look like previous. 739 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,700 Use of Kansas teams and of any size. 740 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,000 I mean, they're tallest player that gets regular minutes is 68 741 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,500 and that's Jalen Wilson. I mean, Grady dick is also 68 742 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:21,800 and he's largely on the perimeter. 743 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000 It's a relatively small team, they certainly got skilled 744 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000 players, but this is not a team that's played particularly great 745 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,600 offensively. They seem to go through a lot of 746 00:37:30,607 --> 00:37:33,600 dry spells. And you know, again, I'm not 747 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,400 predicting that Indiana is going to waltz in and win in Lawrence, 748 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,300 but if Indiana plays to their Potential. 749 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:43,900 I don't think that games off the table and you know, that's 750 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,900 another game where even if you lose it closely, there's it 751 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:49,600 doesn't hurt you. And I think it really helps you 752 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,600 to understand where you are from a measuring stick perspective 753 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,900 against a team like Kansas that's gonna have a big home 754 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:58,900 court advantage, but maybe isn't the world beaters. 755 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:01,300 We thought they were. It's weird that like Kansas 756 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:06,100 North Carolina and Gonzaga look like they may be the three most 757 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,100 over rated teams Kentucky to, I guess you could throw in there. 758 00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:13,500 But Indiana is going to play into of them and it, you know, 759 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,900 the even just out in the first month or so. 760 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,200 The way those teams have played have largely kind of changed the 761 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,300 perception of where they are in the pecking order. 762 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,500 And so it's the whole thing to me is very fascinating because 763 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,100 both North Carolina and Kansas could put it together down the 764 00:38:29,107 --> 00:38:31,000 stretch. But as of right now, I don't 765 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,700 feel like they're playing basketball quite at the caliber 766 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:34,900 that everybody thought they would. 767 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,000 Yep. No I agree. 768 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,600 Real quick going back to that. Arizona game is looking at. 769 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,900 The numbers didn't realize that Arizona is the number one, 770 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:45,600 ranked team and effective field goal percentage Indiana. 771 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,800 Second like it's a wild matchup of the first and second Crimson 772 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,800 cash would tell you to bet the over on that game. 773 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,200 Yeah. Well the over is probably going 774 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,900 to be like a hundred and sixty five points or something and you 775 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,000 know maybe not the team's never play. 776 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,300 Well and weird, neutral site games, but now I agree. 777 00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,800 This is, I've been excited for this stretch because this feels 778 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,300 like now we get to take our toys out. 779 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:12,400 We get to play with them, we get to see You know, has by all the 780 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,400 eye tests Trace Jackson, Davis has taken a step up and become 781 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,400 an even better player, but it's been against mostly subpar 782 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,100 opponents. Like now, it's like, is it's, 783 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:25,400 like, now being able to see it on a national scale and against 784 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,500 large component. And this is where I want 785 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,500 results, I want wins. But if we still look efficient, 786 00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:33,400 and we still look like, we're able to do what we want. 787 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,400 The offense, doesn't go through some of those swamps against 788 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,000 North Carolina, Arizona, Kansas. I feel really good about our 789 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200 chances. Is in the Big Ten, the question, 790 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,000 I'll ask you, I'm not totally concerned, but, you know, your 791 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,600 thoughts on Trace Jackson. Davis with the back, you know, 792 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,500 sitting out a game. I think for me, I'll answer my 793 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,500 own question. First, I am very happy they sat 794 00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:54,900 him against Jackson, Little Rock. 795 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:56,300 I think that was the right obviously. 796 00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:57,700 They know what they're doing, but I think that was the right 797 00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,200 move having him play against Jackson, State makes me feel 798 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,100 like, all right, he's ready to go. 799 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:05,100 And, you know, if nothing else jacket racetracks and Davis has 800 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,200 shown an ability to kind of be very durable. 801 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,400 I remember last year he had Like a funky leg injury against 802 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,300 Syracuse, that kind of affected him for a couple weeks, but he 803 00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:17,200 plowed through and played and so while he might be a little bit, 804 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,900 you know, in pain, I'm not concerned about his ability to 805 00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,200 play and I do think, you know, giving him that rest against 806 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,800 Jackson State there sometime between, you know, Jackson State 807 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,000 and North Carolina are a little rock and then some, you know, I 808 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,300 think that this, this stretch of breaks and having a game off 809 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,000 work really well for him. Yeah. 810 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,200 And I think it had to be that way. 811 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,600 I think he had to play at least a bit against Jackson State, 812 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,000 because if he does, You've gone essentially a week and a half 813 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,500 leading into the North Carolina game where he wouldn't apply it 814 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:49,100 at all and that wasn't going to do and I'm not concerned about 815 00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,700 it. I mean, I think if it was, there 816 00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,000 was a structural issue, we would have heard about it by now. 817 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,300 I think he's probably just sore. Yeah. 818 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:57,300 You know. And so you're going to get that 819 00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,400 and I'm more concerned about Trey Galloway situation because 820 00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:04,200 I think Galloway, you know, the injury situation there. 821 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,300 That's unfortunate because Galloway played so well in that 822 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:10,900 Xavier game defensively and as a tribute ER and setting everybody 823 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,900 else up. I feel like that's a player that 824 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:16,800 could really play a big role in these this next Spate of games 825 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200 coming up, and it was encouraging to see him out 826 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,500 shooting before the game against Jackson State without a brace 827 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,300 on, hopefully that will translate into him being back on 828 00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,500 the floor sooner rather than later. 829 00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,900 But no in his first race Jackson Davis is concerned. 830 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,000 I mean, I think the biggest thing that will be fascinating 831 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,100 to watch, I'm not expecting him to continue to shoot at a 76% 832 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:40,300 clip, which is currently doing. The one thing I'm really 833 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:44,600 fascinated about though, with him is the one number that jumps 834 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,400 out the most in terms of what he did last year, and the 835 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,800 Brilliance of the whole three years. 836 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,700 He's gonna die you versus now, is his offensive rebounding 837 00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,400 percentage right now. Is it like 21.7%? 838 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,300 It's one of the, like all modes, the third in the country right 839 00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,400 now. Now, granted, again, that's been 840 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,200 under that's been against a lot of subpar competition 841 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,500 athletically, but if getting offensive rebounds and using 842 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,400 those to convert into possession, That score points 843 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,300 can continue to be a major part of his game that that solves so 844 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:19,500 many issues that Indiana's had in the past in terms of how they 845 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:24,700 manage having to rely on shots, close to the basket. 846 00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:27,800 Two-point shots, is a such a huge element of their offense. 847 00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:30,700 We talked about last year. How Indiana is offensive 848 00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,700 rebounding? Percentage was subpar, because 849 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:35,200 it just wasn't something that they did. 850 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,400 They really weren't oriented around that this year. 851 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,200 It's a huge part of their offense there. 852 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200 B8 in the country in offensive rebounding percentage. 853 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,000 Thus far, and if Trace Jackson Davis can continue the clip that 854 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,100 he's on with offensive rebounding, in addition to race 855 00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,700 Thompson, and addition to Malik renew, that changes the equation 856 00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:55,600 again much. Like the three-point shooting 857 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,200 that we talked about at the beginning of the podcast 858 00:42:58,300 --> 00:42:59,800 changes, the equation offensively. 859 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,300 So anyway, well I completely agree and it gives you multiple 860 00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:05,900 outs like that's, that's if you're not able to, you're not 861 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,100 hit threes, you need offensive rebound but it's nice. 862 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,800 If the threes continue. To kind of scale up, we can see 863 00:43:10,808 --> 00:43:13,600 you too offensive rebound. Where the 8888 right country 864 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,500 team in the country in offensive, rebounding 865 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:18,400 percentage. And it does feel like that will 866 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,900 translate against better teams. Because like I said I just don't 867 00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:24,700 see a lot of teams. Having the same amount of 868 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:28,900 front-line skill and depth that we have with those three guys. 869 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,500 So it's exciting and it's fun. And again, I love the fact that 870 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600 it's all happening. I think there's, you know, the 871 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,700 tournaments are nice. It is kind of that weird like, 872 00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:43,200 you know, three games and three days on a neutral site, if 873 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,900 you're playing funky teams and there is something nice for it's 874 00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,900 like, you get a home game, you get a neutral site game, you get 875 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,500 a road game, like, you get three, you get a little bit of 876 00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:54,600 everything against top tier opponents, and you can kind of, 877 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,200 I think we're going to get a lot of information about this team 878 00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,400 and not to mention two, big ten games, we're gonna Farah? 879 00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:04,500 Yeah, I know there's a lot that we're going to learn really 880 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,700 quickly, and then it's like, you take a break because it's like, 881 00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:10,300 after December 17th, like I See you next year, like there's 882 00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:13,200 really well and for the stretch, it's like you get to nothing 883 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,500 games. It's like they were back on the 884 00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:15,300 5th. It's like you. 885 00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,600 This is a run to the 17th and then it's based on you have a 886 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,500 two and a half weeks off which is I think could be really 887 00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:23,700 helpful, especially if there's if there's a little Nicks and 888 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,600 cuts were just Galloway situation, maybe that gives it 889 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,400 time to turn around because you, you hit the ground running on 890 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,600 January 5th. You gotta go to Iowa and it 891 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,400 really doesn't slow down from there. 892 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,900 And so, as you as you look at this, I you team. 893 00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:39,700 I don't know what. Exactly. 894 00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:42,100 They're going to do over the next five games, you know, I 895 00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,800 think they absolutely they, you know, you go, I feel confident 896 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,600 counting, that Nebraska came as a win. 897 00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:49,700 So what do you do in the other four? 898 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,700 Can you go to and to is that successful? 899 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:55,100 Probably. Yeah, you know, if you go three 900 00:44:55,100 --> 00:45:00,000 in one, you know, if the one is the loss at Rutgers and you win 901 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,400 the other three, does that change your feeling versus? 902 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,800 If the one loss, is the Kansas game but the other three are 903 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,600 wins. And so this is where I think 904 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,300 that Xavier Game at the beginning or you know in the 905 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:15,500 third game was important because it means that Indiana is going 906 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:19,100 to step into a hostile environment against Rutgers 907 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,800 already having been in a very hostile environment. 908 00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,000 It means that they're going to step into play. 909 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,300 North Carolina at home knowing that, you know, they've already 910 00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:29,600 played a team that played Duke pretty tough. 911 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,800 I mean there, there's certainly things Indiana did last year 912 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,200 that you can point back to. They've been in some big games. 913 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,400 You know, it's no longer something that feels completely 914 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,000 foreign and now, It's a matter of how do you string results 915 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,200 together, and how to players string, good games together and 916 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,700 how to players bounce back? I mean, you know, Xavier 917 00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:51,500 Johnson, you know, doing what he does, Miller cop doing what he 918 00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:52,900 does. Tres Jackson Davis, being 919 00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:55,800 reliable race Thompson, they've done you know, everything 920 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,200 they've done this year in terms of efficiency in scoring. 921 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:00,500 And they've gotten kind of one good race Thompson game out of 922 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,700 the whole thing. And so that these are they've 923 00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,700 actually been good despite not really ever firing on all 924 00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:08,200 cylinders. And yes, it's been against 925 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,500 subpar. Even for the most part, with the 926 00:46:10,508 --> 00:46:13,500 exception of Xavier, but I do think that that will travel 927 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,400 fairly well as we've seen a lot of other teams who have had a 928 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,200 similar cupcake Laden schedule. Go out and play in these holiday 929 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,500 tournaments and look pretty good, you know, it like a lot of 930 00:46:25,508 --> 00:46:28,500 the stuff that was happening in those cupcake games actually did 931 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:31,200 carry over to when they played real competition. 932 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,300 So we'll see what happens. I'm excited should be fun. 933 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,400 We'll be down here for the North Carolina, game, walking around 934 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,300 and out and about. So if You all are coming down. 935 00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:44,100 You know, if you see us on the street wave say hi and same 936 00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,200 thing in the arena. Should be a good game. 937 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,100 Should be a little Assembly Hall. 938 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:52,000 Even with North Carolina, likely not coming in at number one. 939 00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:56,200 I think I you fans really get fired up for these games and I'm 940 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,900 looking forward to seeing what the atmosphere is like Agreed, I 941 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:03,300 still stand by my you can go and three against North Carolina, 942 00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:06,300 Arizona Kansas. I'm now looking at that, that 943 00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:09,400 Rutgers game is I don't want to put it must win but like to me 944 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,600 that's the most important thing. We have over the next couple 945 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,400 weeks is everything else won't stick with you, but I do feel 946 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,900 like when we get in the mid late, January, if we don't win 947 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:20,400 that game we're going to be looking back and kicking 948 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,500 ourselves like damn, like that's that would have been just nice 949 00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,400 to have that in our pocket as we're going for a Big Ten title, 950 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,000 at least the top three and Seed. I mean, we'll see, you know, at 951 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,900 this point I think IU basketball has earned a bit of the benefit 952 00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:36,100 of the doubt and there's a lot of doubt I mean there's still a 953 00:47:36,107 --> 00:47:39,500 lot of Doubt even on the national scene and you know you 954 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,300 look at what Purdue was able to do and has been able to do out 955 00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,500 west and they deserve a lot of credit. 956 00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:49,900 You know I would love to see Indiana pick up some wins here, 957 00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:54,300 that would bolster people's feelings about them both inside 958 00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:57,600 the fanbase and outside because I like everything I'm seeing 959 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,500 statistically, the Far out of this team, it feels like it's 960 00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:04,900 going to carry and travel. Well, both literally and 961 00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:08,000 figuratively is as the team goes through the next few weeks. 962 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,100 But we'll see, you know? Then we may find that they have 963 00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,800 to go back to the drawing board. And if that's the case that 964 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,800 disappointing. But that's also that's why you 965 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,400 play these games. That's why you you test yourself 966 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,000 at this time of the season. It's why you don't play Butler 967 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,100 every other year at game, you know, gain Bridge field house 968 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,700 because that's it's not the same type of test as what they're 969 00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:29,800 going to face. With the combo of North 970 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,300 Carolina, Arizona, and Kansas, not to mention throwing that 971 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,200 game at Rutgers in there. So, so, we'll see what happens. 972 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,300 But anyway, yeah, that'll wrap it up for us here. 973 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,500 We'll be back later in the week, so be sure to keep it tuned to 974 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:44,900 Crimson cast. Be sure to subscribe to Crimson 975 00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:48,000 cast. We are available on Apple or 976 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,300 available on Spotify were available on Stitcher. 977 00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,200 Several other places as well. I think we're available on 978 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,700 Amazon now. Also, Scott is always a pleasure 979 00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,300 looking forward to the upcoming week. 980 00:48:58,500 --> 00:48:59,700 Eek. Thanks to all you folks out 981 00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:01,800 there. Thanks to our friends in the 982 00:49:01,808 --> 00:49:03,800 back home network. Be sure to check out assembly 983 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,400 call after every men's basketball game. 984 00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:09,600 Our thanks to own field apparel for Scott, I'm Galen, this is 985 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,800 Crimson, cast will catch you folks on the flip side? 986 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,200 Bring back the Bison. So long, everybody.