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It is Wednesday the 25th of 

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September or last Wednesday of 
September 2024. 

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I'm not gonna be sad from a a 
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September's ending, but it's 
been a great month for IU 

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football so far and that's what 
we're here to talk about. 

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Today we got Taylor Lehman back 
from bite sized bison. 

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Great to see you, Taylor, how 
are you doing? 

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I'm good Galen. 
I'm I'm a Tigers fan so like 

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nothing can touch me right now. 
I'm Brian like I am on cloud 9. 

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I have never been this dialed 
into baseball in September and 

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like since in my adult life, I 
am ready. 

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I mean, back, back from the 
dead. 

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I it's really remarkable stuff. 
Good for them, good for you 

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guys. 
I love it. 

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It's we'll we'll see what 
happens in the play offs. 

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These runs tend to carry, which 
you know, you keep your fingers 

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crossed, obviously, but but 
good. 

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That's it's tough. 
I I'm a Reds fan. 

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So you know, baseball was over 
in June like it always is. 

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So yeah, anyway, we're going to 
talk IU football and looking 

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forward to doing so. 
We got some questions from you 

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We're going to preview the 

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I just got a heavyweight shirt. 
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almost too well. 
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We are on sub stack here. 
crimsoncast.substack.com is 

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ours. 
What's yours, Taylor? 

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Mine is bite size 
bison.substack.com. 

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That's right and. 
I was not ready for that cute. 

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I normally I know I have Taylor,
it reads, But that's what I'm 

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here. 
I'm trying to mess things up a 

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little bit for him. 
But if you were on, if you were 

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on bite sized Bison you, which 
you should be, you would be able

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to access great things like 
Taylor's game day roundup from 

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the Charlotte game earlier on 
this week. 

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The, the, the recap of that 
game, the preview of the game 

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coming up versus the Maryland 
Terrapins and just all kinds of 

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delightful statistical stuff 
with either. 

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Actually, if you, if you 
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should subscribe to the other 
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You know, on Crimson Cast, 
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You can also subscribe to bite 
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recommend doing. 
It's the place to go to find out

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information statistically about 
IU football that you're just not

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getting anywhere else. 
And that one you can find if you

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The number of people that 
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It's it's really, it's like it's
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It's like we are like a Venn 
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people get in the middle of our 
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It's delightful. 
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the IT actually shows us that 
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looked at it a couple of times. 
I'm like, oh wow, yeah, alright.

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I like this. 
Anybody who's listening to 

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and I'm assuming vice versa. 
It's basically like I, I always 

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think of it like we have two 
tree houses and they're in trees

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right next to each other and, 
and if you get LED into one, you

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get LED into the other. 
And I'm excited that we've got 

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people playing in both tree 
houses simultaneously. 

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So head over to subset drop A. 
Board between them or something?

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Yeah. 
Occasionally like a rope swing 

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or something like that. 
You know, we got, we got a lot 

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of options between the tree 
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All right, Taylor, let's talk IU
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And I guess maybe let's start by
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on the Charlotte game. 
I think most people have read at

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least some aspect of your 
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But as you've looked through all
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on the game and some of the 
performances, I guess what stuck

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out to you the most for Indiana 
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Yeah, yeah. 
The first thing that comes to 

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mind, simply because it's going 
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and in the Maryland preview, is 
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middle 8 minutes. 
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emphasis of cursive Nettie. 
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approaching the middle 8, that's
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had, you know, pulled up in 
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It was 17 to 14. 
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including myself, are like, OK, 
this is this is where like IU 

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down to earth. 
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They they got the ball. 
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mark until until halftime and 
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again before halftime and and 
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It was 38 to 14 by the end of 
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And so that that is what the 
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you use it appropriately, when 
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Not all of it is always in the 
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A lot of it is due to chance. 
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of that situation. 
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get the ball to start the third 
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increase some of the risk that 
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But yeah, that was the biggest 
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off the top of my head. 
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things that, you know, I'm not a
lot of people have not been that

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familiar with the middle 8, 
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first half, first 4 minutes in 
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I mean it. 
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other side. 
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UCLA game given that, you know, 
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at the end of the first half. 
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field goal in the 1st 4 minutes 
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But you know, there is this like
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that occurs at at the pro level 
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about that being key. 
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that, that possession exchange 
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you're if you're able to finish 
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then you get that second-half. 
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And it completely changes the 
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So yeah, that was definitely a 
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Yeah, I, I would say I've had a 
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I also podcasted about the game 
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You know, the the one other 
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It's just like I've been really 
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much more flexible the run and 
blocking seems to be for this IU

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team, how well they're able to 
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people, not just lineman, but 
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receivers and how many options 
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ball, including Curtis Rourke, 
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and you, you watched the 
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can always, I was talking about 
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One of the things you can tell 
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emphasize to the broadcasters, 
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blurt that out in the 1st 5 
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And they were talking like, you 
know, they're really telling 

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Curtis Rourke he needs to run 
more, you know, because there's 

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like openings there. 
They're like, you know, 810 

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yards and and sure enough, he 
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It'll be interesting in this 
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And, you know, this is not to 
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all, but, you know, given what 
the Maryland defense, in 

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particular their defensive line 
looks like they are best able to

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do. 
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opportunities for not just 
Curtis Rourke to to move the 

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chains with his legs, but it 
feels like the running game in 

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general for IU could be a real 
handful for that Maryland 

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defense to deal with and and 
something they really haven't 

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faced so far this season. 
Yeah, yeah, it's it's really 

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interesting actually, Galen, 
cause the the more that I dig 

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into to this this Maryland team,
the more I kind of realized the 

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the only real weapon they have 
is their pass rush. 

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Even the even the even the 
defensive line doesn't 

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necessarily work in run defense,
but they are they have two top 

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ten in the Big 10 anyway, two 
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And so if, if, if the offensive 
line holds off that pass rush, 

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the the pass game could 
certainly get going. 

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But yeah, like you were saying, 
the the rushing attack, there 

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are going to be opportunities 
there that statistically seems 

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haven't necessarily broken 
anything wide open against 

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against Maryland on the ground. 
But the success rate, the 

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consistent meeting of 
expectation in certain running 

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scenarios that is happening for 
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So the run game seems like it 
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It seems like Maryland really 
sells out for the pass rush. 

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And you know, and, and, and if 
you don't back that up 

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fundamentally kind of like the 
way IU does from their defensive

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line standpoint, then you can 
really find yourself in a in a 

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predicament, especially if 
you're giving up the yardage on 

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the ground. 
Yeah, it's, it's going to be 

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fascinating to watch. 
And, you know, as we kind of 

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dive into this, this Maryland 
game overall, you know, the, 

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the, the thing that strikes me, 
I guess is Maryland, they're not

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clearly have talent and they 
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pretty good idea of what they 
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without, you know, looking at 
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versus Michigan State, a team 
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a few question marks about and 
say, well, that that really 

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looks like a problem that they 
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You know, what what occurred in 
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know, it feels to some degree 
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offensively on some poor 
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played defense nearly as well as
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similar competition. 
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some kind of other shoe to drop 
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It may get tougher in this game.
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Maryland and say, well, this is 
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Like, they're not, they're not. 
They're certainly not in the 

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upper echelon. 
They may not even be in the 

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second echelon. 
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do they actually fall in terms 
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even given the lack of 
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you can't just pat Maryland on 
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to a bowl last year and Indiana 
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So we're going to consider you 
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people seem to be doing. 
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numbers between these two teams,
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better team on paper. 
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a high floor, low ceiling type 
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kind of like an average Big 10 
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The the, the Billy Edwards has 
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he has played so far. 
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have some weapons and but I 
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I don't think the talent is as 
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we've seen from from the team 
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systems don't exploit their 
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But yeah, when you when you look
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they've been graded from PFF, 
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side, it hasn't been that hasn't
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the secondary. 
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think about offensive line, 
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thing that I always look at with
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offensive line. 
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really unserious. 
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that. 
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left guard is one of their 
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so far this season. 
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transferred in this offseason 
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line and the only one who's 
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offensive lineman as their left 
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like Indiana, that is where you 
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well schemed passing attack, 
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with, with Caitlin de Boer, you 
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mean Indiana's going to walk in 
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and if they're not taking 
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could, you know, Maryland could 
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Indiana could have real 
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I did. 
There was a question from one of

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That was from Derek Fields, who 
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But he asked was Signetti is 
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game and his presser as it 
seemed from his comments on last

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year's game that is coming out 
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the Hoosiers weren't ready to 
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Should we see a Chris Hoosiers 
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where he, you know, kind of went
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he watched a lot of Maryland 
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It kind of does feel like 
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this game for Kurt Signetti 
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takes Maryland seriously and I 
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really being a barometer for 
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into this middle portion of the 
schedule. 

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Yeah, and I, I think he's right.
You know, I think Galen, I think

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you and I had that game marked 
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about this is kind of like their
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This is when we figure out how 
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especially given the 
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It's a little more regular now 
instead of going out to LA to 

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play UCLA. 
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think it's fair to to assess it 
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But also the sharpness with 
which Signeti is kind of talking

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this week, I've also noticed is 
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what it has been in the past. 
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too, is just wanted to create 
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into a Big 10 schedule. 
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it's more than just Signetti. 
It's when he's saying that he 

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would be surprised if his 
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play this game a lot. 
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have player driven culture and 
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take on the the personality of 
their head coach. 

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Jim Harbaugh was really good at 
that at Michigan, even though it

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all seemed kind of delusional. 
It was it was it was all 

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planned. 
And you know, they're doing the 

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weird tribute to him when he 
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whatever. 
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just like a good locker room 
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they want to win the 
championship. 

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So, you know, I think I think 
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is that the leaders in this 
locker room are are also leading

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the culture and they also like 
the players. 

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The players aren't only 
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They have their own thoughts 
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And they understand that and 
they see these things. 

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They see that Maryland is kind 
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like the barometer and and they 
they won't make that point too. 

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So I think that all kind of runs
together I guess. 

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I mean, last year, you know, you
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was the Maryland game that that 
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the coffin of the season for 
IUI. 

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Mean, you know, that the the 
Akron game was bad and Indiana 

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won that one, and then they had 
to travel to Maryland. 

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They lose 44 to 17 in that game 
and and really from there it was

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just like everything unraveled 
and, you know, the previous year

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they lose to Maryland at home 38
to 33. 

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You know, that was that looked 
like maybe the last that game 

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and the Rutgers game, the 
following. 

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Like it's like you if they if 
they'd won those two games, they

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would have gone to a bowl if 
everything else had stayed pat. 

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But they didn't, you know. 
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also beat them 3835 the previous
year. 

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You know, so this is 3 game, 
three days, three years in a row

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Maryland has beaten Indiana. 
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Tiger Valloa is the quarterback 
And you know, I think a good 

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influx of talent from Mike 
Loxley combined with Indiana 

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going downhill, it just to me, 
it feels like internally maybe 

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this game is very important 
because, you know, the UCLA game

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was important in as much as that
was a big game on the road 

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against the Big 10 opponent. 
You get off to A1 and O start in

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the conference. 
But this is like, OK, we didn't 

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know UCLA. 
We know Maryland. 

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We owe Maryland after this past 
three seasons. 

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And I'm sure for Signetti, he 
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and even the, the part about 
Billy Edwards, I think it was, 

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you know, being a quarterback 
they had recruited at, I don't 

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know if it was Elon or JMU. 
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think as a coach, it's like, 
well, that we didn't, we didn't 

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work with that guy. 
I want to be able to, to 

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demonstrate that we've got the 
superior quarterback. 

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There's a lot of little things 
like that that sometimes can 

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factor into these and and 
granted, it's all under the 

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larger confines of we got to go 
win the game. 

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But if there's extra motivation 
to not just win it, but 

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demonstrate like we are the 
superior program now, certainly 

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I understand some of the 
comments a little bit better. 

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We also could be reading 
completely too much into it, 

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Taylor, I don't know. 
It also could be a DMV thing, 

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you know, coming from coming 
from JMU and it also, it also 

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could be that as well. 
I think, yeah, I think there's a

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lot of intersections of things, 
intersections of interest here 

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for for cursing Nettie. 
But yeah, like like you and 

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Scott had said on on your last 
episode. 

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This was always kind of the game
where it was like, you know, one

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or the other was going to was 
going to was was going to have 

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room in the Big 10 E. 
And and so there's there's like 

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a weird kind of short history 
here between these two programs.

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And yeah, I think, I think 
Indiana and Indiana fans really 

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want this one. 
Let's get to some other 

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questions that we got from the 
folks out in Cyberland. 

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So this is an interesting one 
from from Matt. 

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What stats or or statistical 
figure do you think is the 

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biggest fool's gold thus far due
to IU football's competition 

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level? 
Like is there something where 

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they look really good 
statistically that you're like 

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that may not be that may be 
statistical noise or that may 

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just be an artifact of playing 
teams that aren't very good. 

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Is there anything that sticks 
out to you like that? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
The, the PFF grades, the, the, 

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the overall PF grade, PFF 
grades, I think the, the 

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individual player PFF grades 
can, can, can be indicative of 

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performance, but those are not 
opponent adjusted. 

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And so you know, when, when 
you're looking at these 

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statistical previews that I put 
together, I always, I always go 

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through and like, oh, wow, you 
know, PFF overall, they have 

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Indiana as the third best team 
in the country. 

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It's like, OK, well, that it, 
it's, it's just execution and 

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the, the way that they grade 
them, those are just a 

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collection of grades. 
And in a micro sense that they 

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tried to then create a, a macro 
sense of the grades. 

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And it, it's basically, how did 
you execute what you wanted to 

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do against the opponents you 
had? 

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It's not opponent adjusted. 
So I think those, I think the, 

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the those PF grades are are kind
of some fool's gold, but there 

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are others too. 
I mean, I mean, really at this 

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point, anything that's not 
opponent adjusted right now is, 

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is, is pretty tough. 
Like like Indiana has the the 

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top offensive EPA per play and 
then the country and you know, 

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they have a great offense and 
they've been fantastic 

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offensively, but I don't know if
I would be ready to say that 

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they are the best offense in the
country right now. 

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So you know, opponent 
adjustments really important 

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really on in the season. 
So I I think that's kind of that

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that's, that's that's the way 
that I kind of approach it. 

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It's more of like a profile of 
what the team is versus how good

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they are. 
So OK. 

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I want, I want to stay on that 
for a second. 

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Ryan Kotter had a question. 
A lot of efficiency numbers I've

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seen are adjusted for opponent. 
How much can we actually read 

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into those given the relatively 
weak schedule? 

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And how well does adjusting for 
an opponent actually work? 

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So maybe tackle that first, 
like, you know, how does that 

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work? 
And then I want to come back to 

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something. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, I actually, I, I 
read a really good article a 

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while back about the how, how 
you build a statistical model to

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00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,320
account for opponent. 
And basically it just uses 

447
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,000
multivariate regression and 
statistical concepts that are 

448
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,920
like, it's not necessarily about
weak opponents. 

449
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,840
It's, it's more, it's somewhat 
of like the transitive property,

450
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:29,520
but how, how did you perform 
against them versus their 

451
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,960
averages against their other 
opponents? 

452
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,000
You know, so it, the, the 
example the article used was 

453
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,480
like if, if you allowed nine 
yards per carry to your 

454
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000
opponent, that seems really bad.
But then when you look at all 

455
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,920
the other games, they averaged 
10 yards per carry, it's like, 

456
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,360
OK, well, we, we did OK because 
it was only 9. 

457
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,960
So, you know, once you consider 
those residuals, then you can 

458
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,000
kind of get it kind of boosts 
your, your whatever metric 

459
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000
you're using. 
So I think, you know, 4 weeks 

460
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,280
into a season, I think it's 
pretty good for opponent 

461
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,320
adjustment. 
And, and you can see it that the

462
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,080
very first one that comes to 
mind is FIU, like Indiana, 

463
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,680
Indiana, you know, deconstructed
FIU and then FIU immediately 

464
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,640
came out and, and destroyed 
Central Michigan. 

465
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,880
And they, they've, you know, 
they've impressed some folks, 

466
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,480
but I don't think it as much as 
much as that that week two game.

467
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,000
But but when you consider the 
way that their opponents have 

468
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,200
played against their other their
other teams then and then how 

469
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,400
well Indiana performed against 
them, I think it they're, 

470
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,720
they're pretty accurate. 
And also like I saw recently 

471
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,280
that opponent adjusted EPA for 
play. 

472
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,280
Indiana's ranked 7th in the 
country right now. 

473
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,200
And so you see those and you're 
like, there's no way that can be

474
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,720
true. 
But it's mostly just in in 

475
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,960
comparison of how their 
opponents played against their 

476
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
the rest of their schedule. 
Yeah, I mean, we talk about this

477
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,160
a lot on the basketball front 
too. 

478
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,120
And it's it's a, it's a tough 
concept because we're not used 

479
00:24:55,120 --> 00:25:00,640
to thinking about the idea that 
it's how you perform against 

480
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,240
what the computer thinks the 
other team should do in an 

481
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,240
average game. 
That's essentially what you're 

482
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,120
talking about with the opponent 
adjustment. 

483
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,000
And it, you know, it's, is it a 
perfect system? 

484
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,880
No, because you've got a bunch 
of factors like what if you're 

485
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,400
not playing an average game? 
What if you play a great game? 

486
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,440
And you know, now, I mean, even 
if like there's, there's 

487
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,360
technically ways that you can 
factor that in, but a lot of it 

488
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:31,320
ends up coming back to it's a 
way to try to establish over an 

489
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,480
entire statistical body of, of 
games, which is, you know, 

490
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,800
thousands of games in a, a 
college football season 10, you 

491
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,040
know, almost well, probably 
maybe 10s of thousands of games 

492
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,040
in the college basketball 
season. 

493
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760
I mean, there's a lot of games 
that you're dealing with. 

494
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:48,880
And so much of it comes down to 
this system does more often than

495
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,600
not, by about the midway point 
of the season, draw a fairly 

496
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,680
accurate picture of what each 
statistical area is doing 

497
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,240
relative to the expectations of 
the other teams and their 

498
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,160
statistical areas. 
That is a little too squishy for

499
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760
a lot of people who wouldn't 
just a straightforward, well, 

500
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,240
this team's better than that 
team. 

501
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,200
But I think there's the nuance 
there. 

502
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,800
But it it leads to some 
interesting things. 

503
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,360
You know, it's like you 
mentioned, yeah, Indiana's 

504
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,760
number one in the country in EPA
per play, which feels like 

505
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,680
perhaps fool's gold. 
But they're number one in 

506
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,080
success in pass, which I find I 
think more fascinating like 

507
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800
because that there's a whole 
bunch of other factors there 

508
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,280
besides just how good or bad 
your opponent is. 

509
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,480
And for Indiana to be #1 in that
after four weeks, for them to be

510
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,240
#1 in points per drive, for them
to be, you know, like they're, 

511
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,920
you know, and, and, and on the 
defensive side, Indiana's ninth 

512
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,240
in points per drive. 
I mean, even against bad 

513
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,200
competition, there are teams 
that are not doing what 

514
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,000
Indiana's doing statistically on
either side of the ball, which 

515
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520
was something that we tried to 
emphasize over the weekend. 

516
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Now, does that hold up as the 
competition gets harder? 

517
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,640
Maybe, maybe not. 
But that doesn't mean that the 

518
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
performance they've turned in so
far hasn't been really good. 

519
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,720
It might just mean there's other
factors that keep it from 

520
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520
continuing that way that doesn't
like erase what already 

521
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,840
occurred. 
And if there are alterations 

522
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,640
based on Indiana and 
outperforming as well, those 

523
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,280
will show up in the statistical 
analysis, but they won't 

524
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,520
completely erase what happened 
earlier, if that makes any 

525
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,520
sense. 
Yeah, it's it's very like very 

526
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960
much the way that people think 
of the SP plus model too is, is 

527
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,400
it pulls from the last, as 
you're closer to the, to the 

528
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920
beginning of this season, it 
pulls from the last season to 

529
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,920
create some sort of weighted, 
some sort of weight for each, 

530
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
for each team. 
So when when the team does 

531
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,120
really well against them, they 
have a weight to apply to, to 

532
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,040
that metric. 
And so it, it takes a while to 

533
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,720
respond. 
It also takes a while, like you 

534
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,040
were saying, Galen to, to get a 
full idea of how good each team 

535
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080
is, how much you should weight 
them and things like that. 

536
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,800
So, so yeah, it's, it's not, 
it's not perfect. 

537
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,680
It's, it's more perfect than 
than stats out of context. 

538
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520
And like you were saying, 
success rates are, are a great 

539
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,920
way to kind of measure a team in
terms of consistency. 

540
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,480
And, and we've seen plenty of 
passing success consistently 

541
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,080
from from IU this season. 
So that would make a lot of 

542
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,120
sense. 
But yeah, I think it's, it's a 

543
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,160
really good question. 
It's also one of those things 

544
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,520
where Indiana has been so 
impressive, especially 

545
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,720
offensively throughout these 
first four games, they they 

546
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,440
can't keep this trajectory up. 
So we're gonna see some, we're 

547
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,560
gonna see some downward trend at
some point of, of this, of this 

548
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,240
offense and even the defense, 
I'm sure. 

549
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,720
And that doesn't necessarily 
mean it's getting worse. 

550
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,120
It just means that, you know, 
the competition is just, you 

551
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,400
know, increasing. 
Question from Jamie Jordan, Do 

552
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,280
you have an unsung hero on both 
sides of the ball so far? 

553
00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Yeah, yeah, I have. 
So I Josh Sanguinetti is is 1 

554
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,520
and. 
A decade. 

555
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,880
Is he allowed to be on the sun? 
I know. 

556
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,600
I know, yeah, yeah. 
Actually, it's really funny 

557
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,240
because I'm going to name two 
people who have been on the team

558
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,720
forever. 
And then so Josh Sanguinetti on 

559
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,320
the defensive side, he's graded 
as the second best safety in the

560
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,960
Big 10 right now by PFFI think 
part of it is that he's just 

561
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,120
hasn't really like needed to be 
used that often because the the 

562
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560
defensive line has been so 
effective and the linebackers 

563
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,680
are out there too. 
But when he has gotten his 

564
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,200
opportunities, he he's played 
well. 

565
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,080
So which which has been 
impressive to me because I've 

566
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,720
never been really high on Josh 
Sanguinetti. 

567
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,600
So it's been nice to see that. 
But then on the offensive side, 

568
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Mike Kadic at at center, I 
think, you know, the way that 

569
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,920
that offensive line unit has 
come together has had a lot to 

570
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,200
do with Mike Kadic. 
He's graded as a top five center

571
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,320
in the Big 10 right now. 
And you know, I I can't say that

572
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,840
I was necessarily anticipating 
that when even when he came 

573
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,320
back, you know, I I was, I was 
happy to see that he came back 

574
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,720
because they needed some 
experience on this offensive 

575
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,040
line and especially the Big 10 
level. 

576
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,280
And for him to come back and, 
and, and be the anchor the way 

577
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520
that he has been and play as 
well as he has. 

578
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,520
But I think that's huge for 
this, especially for just the 

579
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,080
offense and Curtis Roar. 
Yeah, I think, I think those two

580
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:27,200
are probably the for me. 
Jeremy Hood asks the following 

581
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,600
looking at the snap counts on 
bite sized Bison for our defense

582
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,160
against Charlotte, the starters 
in the secondary and linebacker 

583
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,440
positions played 76 percent or 
more of the snaps, which makes 

584
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,240
me nervous how these guys will 
hold up. 

585
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Basically asking if you guys 
have any concern on the depth of

586
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,360
the defense, particularly in the
secondary and linebacker 

587
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,760
positions as we move forward. 
I'll I'll let you handle this 

588
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,600
one. 
Not as much linebacker, but 

589
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,120
definitely secondary. 
This is definitely something 

590
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,680
that I'm concerned about this. 
This is probably my biggest 

591
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:04,880
concern for the team is, is how 
the, the contrast between the 

592
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,520
number of players who play in, 
in the more competitive games 

593
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,440
like in like in UCLA and, and 
also for some reason, and 

594
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,480
against Charlotte too, like that
they didn't get a ton of 

595
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,000
rotation. 
And, and yeah, I, I think it's 

596
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,760
concerning. 
I think, you know, at corner, I 

597
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,560
think they're actually a little 
bit better than I thought they 

598
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,760
would be. 
Jamari Sharp was pretty 

599
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,360
impressive against Charlotte, 
but I don't know about safety. 

600
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,880
So we haven't seen a ton of the 
guys behind them. 

601
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,720
And, and so, yeah, that is a 
concern and mostly just because 

602
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,960
of the the continued unknown 
variables with, with the 

603
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,240
defensive backfield, especially 
a safety that, you know, we 

604
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,200
talked about before the season 
started and since the starters 

605
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680
have gotten so many snaps, we 
don't really know exactly what 

606
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,400
is behind them. 
So yeah, yeah, I'm, I am 

607
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,160
concerned about that. 
Yeah, it's tough because like, 

608
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040
on the one hand, I think the 
secondary almost had to be 

609
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,280
reestablished and you know, you,
you had to get a pecking order 

610
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,760
out there. 
You had to get guys who knew 

611
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,720
what they were doing early on. 
I do wonder if, you know, 

612
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,880
especially in the next couple of
games and the the for reasons 

613
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,480
we'll talk about in a minute, 
the Maryland game may not be 

614
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440
that game, but definitely the 
Northwestern game. 

615
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,320
You may have the opportunity to 
rotate a couple of of of you 

616
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560
newer players and younger 
players and players that aren't 

617
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,080
playing as much. 
It would be nice to see. 

618
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680
Now, I will say it seems like 
Indiana has largely gotten by so

619
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,400
far through the first third of 
the season without any major 

620
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
injuries that I can think of. 
But it's actually been a 

621
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,960
remarkably injury free year, 
which is kind of an undersold 

622
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
part of what we've seen. 
I mean, given the amount of 

623
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,560
injuries IU has suffered the 
last few years, like something 

624
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,600
must have really changed with 
their strength and conditioning 

625
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640
program and the way that they 
were doing things. 

626
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,120
So Indiana has been lucky from 
that perspective. 

627
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200
And obviously if you can keep 
your guys out there and healthy,

628
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,320
that's the best way to handle 
this situation. 

629
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680
But I do wonder, like, do we 
start to see a little more 

630
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,120
rotation, a couple more snaps 
going to guys who who aren't in 

631
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,800
the starting line up simply as a
matter of necessity given that 

632
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,480
you're still got multiple, you 
know, many games left to play in

633
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,720
the season, at least nine. 
Yeah, yeah, no, I and, and, you 

634
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,400
know, even along the defensive 
line too, I think, you know, 

635
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120
defensive end is, is a, is a 
position that I don't think 

636
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,080
they're super deep in. 
And so, yeah, like you were 

637
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:41,720
saying, Galen, I mean, look at 
it's such a strange contrast 

638
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,520
between the offense and defense 
because the offense is just so 

639
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560
deep at every position. 
I mean, except for the offensive

640
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,280
line. 
But but like when you look at 

641
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,280
the defense and it's like, OK, 
well, they're, they're they're 

642
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,680
pretty deep at defensive tackle 
and, and I think they're, they 

643
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,160
have some depth at linebacker, 
but, but you get outside of that

644
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,080
and it's like, OK, that's a 
little shaky. 

645
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,840
But but yeah, I think I think 
you're right. 

646
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,920
I think we'll see exactly where 
that is at in in in the next 

647
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,159
couple of games. 
So we had a bunch. 

648
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Of the secondary is that in 
general? 

649
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:18,600
Sorry. 
You know, I am. 

650
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,080
I am too. 
Yeah. 

651
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,719
I mean, they've obviously 
they've got a great receiver 

652
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,800
they got to go up against. 
They've got a quarterback who's 

653
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,199
by far the most functional 
quarterback they'll have played 

654
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,280
so far. 
And I think you mentioned on one

655
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,920
of your statistical breakdowns, 
this is the highest rated 

656
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,600
quarterback that Indiana we'll 
maybe like we'll certainly will 

657
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,719
face has faced so far. 
Yeah. 

658
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040
I mean, you know, it's it's just
it'll be interesting to see how 

659
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,080
they handle a level of live 
competition in the passing game 

660
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,440
that they haven't had up to this
point. 

661
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,960
With several questions that were
something in the vein of what JD

662
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,920
Klein writes. 
The forecast is getting wetter 

663
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,360
by the day with the remnants of 
Hurricane Helen moving into the 

664
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,280
region on Friday night. 
How does the rain impact the two

665
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,720
teams? 
Who gets the advantage? 

666
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Jordan Bailey asks. 
If it's wet, does it favor the 

667
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,760
Hoosiers? 
Whoever, Stronger ground and 

668
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480
pound game. 
We had another question about 

669
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,240
weather that popped up somewhere
else in the feed. 

670
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,840
I can't find it right now, but a
lot of weather questions and and

671
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,200
a lot of questions about what it
would look like if this was 

672
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,760
maybe not a repeat of Virginia 
from whatever that year that was

673
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,800
2018, but certainly a very wet 
game. 

674
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,840
Who does that favor in your in 
your opinion and why? 

675
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,240
I mean, I think it favors 
Indiana. 

676
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,560
I think they're stronger in the 
trenches on both sides. 

677
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080
The the defensive line's not the
Maryland's defensive line's not 

678
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,120
super graded around defense. 
Indiana has the 7th best rushing

679
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,120
success in the country that 
Justice Ellison is actually 

680
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,080
graded as the, he has the 
highest rushing grade of all Big

681
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,280
10 running backs. 
And, and you know, he's just one

682
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,200
of four. 
And so I, I think when it comes 

683
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,160
to the, the running game, 
Indiana has the, the pretty 

684
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,960
obvious favor. 
But I, I, I do think that 

685
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Maryland can be sneaky on the 
ground. 

686
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,480
I, their offensive line is, is, 
you know, not good, but Roman 

687
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Hemby is extremely talented. 
I mean, that guy almost ran for 

688
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,880
1000 yards a couple of years 
ago. 

689
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,800
Like I, I have a hard time, you 
know, counting him out at all. 

690
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920
And I don't think he's getting a
lot of talk in this match 

691
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,320
because it's Ty Felton and and 
Billy Edwards. 

692
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,920
But Roman Hembi is a very 
talented runner. 

693
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,000
So if it gets into a running 
match, I I could see it being a 

694
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,760
little more competitive than 
people think it might be. 

695
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,000
But also at the same time, you 
know, Gabe and I, I don't think 

696
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,520
the rain really affects the the 
game as much as people think it 

697
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,160
does. 
You still see a lot of a lot of 

698
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160
rainy games turn into passing 
games. 

699
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,640
And so I think there might be 
more passing than people think 

700
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,000
there might be. 
I don't think you have to go all

701
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
the way to washing. 
So this has been an interesting 

702
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,320
thing. 
Now I'm gonna I'm gonna show the

703
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,880
people who are watching on 
YouTube a couple of different 

704
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,840
things here. 
You know, we've we've tried to 

705
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,440
integrate some more graphics 
into what we do here on on 

706
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Crimson cast. 
But let me start. 

707
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,520
JD Gebby was nice enough to send
us this this tweet which he 

708
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,560
which he started off with Boom. 
See everyone Saturday and you 

709
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,400
can see like first of all, it's 
got the remnants of Helen kind 

710
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,440
of stalling out and moving, 
taking a left turn at Nashville 

711
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,040
and then essentially hanging out
in the Paducah area for a while 

712
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,600
with Bloomington kind of being 
outside of the primary cone. 

713
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,520
So that would be, that'd be 
fine. 

714
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Like, you know, you wouldn't 
have a lot of of weather related

715
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,040
items there. 
But you know what I, what I do 

716
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,720
wonder not so much the rain, 
'cause I agree with you, I think

717
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:50,840
sometimes the rain is overrated 
in terms of what it does. 

718
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880
There's a lot of throwing that 
does happen in the rain. 

719
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,160
The accent, that's gonna be 
harder to run in the rain 

720
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,280
because you must get much less 
footing and you got a better 

721
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,880
advantage as a receiver than you
do as a running back because 

722
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,960
you're not cutting and, and the 
way that you are in a lot of 

723
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,800
cases. 
But the wind I think is gonna be

724
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,840
interesting 'cause if you look 
right now and, and this has 

725
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,840
changed every six hours, so this
could change tomorrow. 

726
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,080
But if you look at the afternoon
forecast on the 28th, when the 

727
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,440
game is wind gusts 613 miles an 
hour, that's actually gone down 

728
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,880
a little bit from what it was 
earlier where I think wind gusts

729
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,240
were closer to 20 to 25 miles an
hour. 

730
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,400
That can affect the passing 
game. 

731
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040
So I think if it's just rain, 
I'm with you. 

732
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,720
If it's rain and wind, all bets 
are off. 

733
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:37,800
But I do agree with you. 
I think that actually it, it 

734
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,280
favors Indiana for a variety of 
reasons. 

735
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:45,080
And you know, just just the, the
basic fact that you're, you 

736
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,560
know, you, you're playing at 
home and you're used to running 

737
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,840
the ball and you've run the ball
so effectively and you're used 

738
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,280
to scoring on the ground, 
whereas Maryland not quite as 

739
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,720
much. 
I think that those are some 

740
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:57,640
factors that go in Indiana's 
favor. 

741
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,640
Yeah, yeah. 
And and, you know, Maryland's, 

742
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Maryland's defense has been, you
know, OK, against as against 

743
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,480
running attacks, I think I was 
saying earlier, but but they do 

744
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,320
allow a lot of success on the 
ground. 

745
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,240
And so you know what, yeah, I 
think just introducing elements 

746
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,160
into into the game, I don't 
think that's going to make 

747
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Maryland's defense any better. 
So, so I, I think, yeah, like if

748
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,560
it, if it does turn into a, a 
windy like you're saying, Galen 

749
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,360
and which I didn't even think 
about was the wind, but the, the

750
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,000
windy, rainy competition. 
I do think India has a has a 

751
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,680
favor there. 
Yeah, our our buddy Hooperazzi 

752
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,960
asks. 
I want to see how you football 

753
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,880
win, but a part of me wants to 
see this team face adversity. 

754
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Is anyone else interested in 
seeing in this team if this team

755
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,440
has moxie? 
I'm not. 

756
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,360
You know, to me, the greatest 
amount of moxie is never letting

757
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,800
anybody get close to you. 
Like that's that's moxie capital

758
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,520
M I'll take that any day of the 
week. 

759
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,760
I I don't want a close win. 
I want Indiana to win by a 

760
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,800
couple of touchdowns against 
everybody that they play and. 

761
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,240
I, you know, I, if we, if we get
to the point where we're 

762
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,760
complaining because Indiana's 
games are not close enough, 

763
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,840
because they're too good for 
their competition, you know, 

764
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,840
sign me up for whatever reality 
we find ourselves in with that. 

765
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,520
That sounds ideal. 
Yeah, yeah, Galen, I think they 

766
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,480
will win by two scorers. 
I think, you know, we might we 

767
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,840
might get into that later, but I
I think this, I think the I 

768
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,560
think, I think this, I don't, I 
don't think it's gonna be that. 

769
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,840
I don't think it's gonna be that
close. 

770
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,760
I, I, I just think this offense 
is just too good. 

771
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,640
And, and you know that I think 
the defense is going to I, I 

772
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,800
mean, honestly, I mean, if, if 
we want to talk about adversity,

773
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,200
I think this defense is just 
generally facing adversity this 

774
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,800
week with Ty Felton and, and I 
think that's their like their 

775
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,640
first real adversity of the 
season. 

776
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,600
And, and so that's, that's 
really what I'm interested in is

777
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,320
when Indiana's on the field 
defensively. 

778
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,080
But I still, I, I, I think 
Indiana is going to take care of

779
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,920
business. 
Let's let's explore that a 

780
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,560
little bit. 
Like, you know, if so, what is 

781
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Indiana hanging their hat on if 
they win this game decisively, 

782
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,280
like you're saying, like, what 
for? 

783
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,160
If we're casting that scenario 
forward, like, what was the game

784
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,280
like that caused Indiana to win 
by a couple of scores or better?

785
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,120
They didn't turn the ball over. 
You know, they're one of three 

786
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,520
teams that hasn't turned the 
ball over in FBS play. 

787
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680
And Maryland leads the Big 10 
and force turnovers. 

788
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,960
So, you know, one of those has 
to give. 

789
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,840
And and, you know, if any end, 
it doesn't turn the ball over. 

790
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,960
I think, I think, you know, it's
I don't think it'd be close 

791
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,320
because, you know, Mary, 
Maryland has relied on that. 

792
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:44,880
Yeah, I, I think they, I, I, if 
they, if they hold off 

793
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Maryland's pass rush, if, if the
offensive line holds off the 

794
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,360
pass rush, if Curtis Rourke 
isn't feeling too much pressure 

795
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160
and even when he is feeling 
pressure, he's been solid. 

796
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,680
But if he's not feeling too much
pressure, I don't think 

797
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,560
Maryland's defense is, is going 
to even be a speed bump for this

798
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,400
offense. 
Their secondary is just not very

799
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960
good and I don't think their 
linebackers can make up for that

800
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,160
play. 
So I think if there's solid pass

801
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,200
protection from the offensive 
line, I think and, and, and you 

802
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,680
know, we were just talking about
the elements. 

803
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,240
If, if it is a passing game, 
then I, I think that's, that's 

804
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,360
really where this game is 
decided. 

805
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,680
I don't. 
I don't think that the Maryland 

806
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,320
offense, even with Ty Felton, 
can keep up with this offense. 

807
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,640
Yeah, I look at it if I'm gonna 
take a pessimistic view, which I

808
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,200
almost feel like I'm 
contractually obligated to do as

809
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,600
an IU podcaster, like I think I 
signed that some at some point. 

810
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,920
But yeah, it, it feels like if 
you're looking for the route 

811
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,520
through which Indiana doesn't 
win this game, you know, a lot 

812
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000
of it is, you know, they, they 
turn the ball over a couple of 

813
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,560
times. 
Maryland does a really good job 

814
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520
of timing the offense early and 
then the defense just, you know,

815
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,800
can't, can't make the plays in 
the passing game that they need 

816
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,960
to. 
And, and look, all those things 

817
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,560
could happen again. 
This Maryland team has beaten 

818
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Indiana three years in a row, 
albeit two of those wins were 

819
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,640
not blowouts. 
They were close games. 

820
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,880
And those were bad. 
Those were really bad teams that

821
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,240
Indiana was fielding in 
2021-2022. 

822
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:15,400
So it's not like this has been a
decisive Maryland tilt over the 

823
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,520
last few years. 
But they, you know, it's, it's 

824
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,720
clearly a team that is not going
to be afraid of Indiana. 

825
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,200
They might be kind of curious 
about them at this point, but 

826
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,920
they're going to come in 
thinking what we won last time 

827
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,000
we were here and we beat them 
last year out in College Park. 

828
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,280
We can do it again. 
So it just, it's going to be 

829
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,800
interesting to me, you know, 
what Maryland's confidence 

830
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,840
levels look like and how their 
defense matches up early against

831
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,560
IUI. 
Will say the one other thing, 

832
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
you know, Indiana's offense had 
a bit of a slow start against 

833
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,240
Charlotte. 
Some of that I think was 

834
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:52,320
hangover from UCLA. 
Some of it was, you know, maybe 

835
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,160
just some bad luck on a couple 
of plays and some good plays by 

836
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,360
Charlotte early on. 
But you you would like to see 

837
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,800
Indiana's offense like really 
get off to a good start. 

838
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,600
To some degree. 
That's really what caused the 

839
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
game to go as well as it did 
against UCLA. 

840
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,400
You know, they, they, they get 
the touchdown on the 1st Dr. 

841
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,600
they force the turnover on the 
next play and then they score 

842
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
again and it's like, well, 
you're off and running at that 

843
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,160
point. 
And that's my big hope for IU is

844
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,520
that they, they get it rolling 
quickly. 

845
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,080
They establish themselves as the
lead team. 

846
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,240
They make, you know, Maryland 
play catch up essentially. 

847
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,160
That's, that's the most 
advantageous spot for this IU 

848
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,960
team to be in. 
I think that gives them a level 

849
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,000
of confidence in terms of, of 
being able to finish the game 

850
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,240
off. 
And, you know, we'll, we'll see 

851
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,080
what happens with all that, but 
those are kind of the things I'm

852
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,360
looking for as we go into it. 
Yeah. 

853
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,720
In conjunction with that, Galen,
I think something defensively 

854
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:47,040
that that might put that might 
leave Indiana vulnerable is if 

855
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,120
they do surrender anything on 
the ground like they did in 

856
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,760
Charlotte, they they had that 
Charlotte had the early rushing 

857
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,120
success. 
Obviously, I think that was 

858
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,840
schematic. 
I think Bryant Haynes fixed that

859
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,560
in the second-half. 
But if they have another 

860
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,640
performance like that against 
Roman Henby, that's going to be 

861
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,040
tough because Maryland already 
uses a lot of screens. 

862
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,560
And that is the way the offenses
have really been attacking this 

863
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,280
defense. 
And so and they've been 

864
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920
successful in the screen game. 
So if they're giving up screens,

865
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,320
they're successful plays on with
screens. 

866
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,840
If they're giving up, you know, 
yards on the ground that that's 

867
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,840
a lot of that's a lot of dynamic
to be allowing as a defense and 

868
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,760
and be able to cap it. 
So I think, you know, if, if, if

869
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,320
those two things happen, I think
it could be, it could be a close

870
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480
one. 
Yeah, especially if it happens 

871
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,200
without early offenses. 
It sounds like you were saying. 

872
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,160
Well, it should be a fascinating
1 and, and certainly I'm looking

873
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,760
forward to it. 
I, you know, the, it's been a 

874
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,320
real joy watching this IU team 
every week and, you know, every 

875
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,000
week I'm excited to see what 
they've got planned next. 

876
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,320
And you know, how everything 
plays out. 

877
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,800
I mean, clearly a lot, a lot to 
watch in this game. 

878
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,840
It'll be a fascinating, you 
know, you know, combination of 

879
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,400
events, not just these two teams
playing each other, but the 

880
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,280
potential for weather. 
We had a question from Jordan 

881
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,600
Bailey about like what are the 
effective tie downs for a 

882
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,120
canopy? 
I I think it's entirely 

883
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,480
dependent. 
I bought, there are some, there 

884
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520
are some weights I bought at 
Lowe's. 

885
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,480
They did a good job of weighing 
the canopy down for the FIU 

886
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,240
game, which weirdly had a a wind
issue, or maybe it was Western 

887
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:17,520
Illinois that the wind issues 
the way. 

888
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,120
Yeah, that was it. 
So those weights that slide over

889
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,320
the legs are a good move. 
But I will say, if it's really 

890
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,720
windy, don't put a canopy up. 
I'll always remember the Penn 

891
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:29,480
State. 
It was the, IT was actually the 

892
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,200
game that Pennix blew out his 
knee the first time there was a 

893
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,520
highwind warning that happened I
think about two hours before the

894
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,520
game. 
And it came through and it like 

895
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,920
massacred all of the canopies 
that were set up in the Memorial

896
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,400
Stadium tailgate area, including
mine, like, and mine was largely

897
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,960
massacred because my neighbor's 
canopy flew right into our 

898
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120
canopy and knocked the crock 
pots over like it was a huge 

899
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,400
mess. 
So my, my point is, if you're at

900
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,040
all concerned or not certain 
about the weighing down, you're 

901
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,920
almost better off standing in 
the rain because they fly in 

902
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,920
canopy and and highwind is, is 
no joke, folks. 

903
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,160
Yeah, you want to try to avoid 
that as much as possible. 

904
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,160
So does your insurance company. 
So just maybe keep that in mind.

905
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,800
But a lot of different things 
that are going to be happening 

906
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,280
around this game. 
Hopefully a big crowd. 

907
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Supposedly only about 4000 
tickets left for this game. 

908
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,640
So, you know, hopefully the 
weather cooperates. 

909
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,720
Might have a wet crowd, but it 
should be fun. 

910
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,080
It'll be warm outside at the 
very least and should be a 

911
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,880
really fascinating event. 
So Taylor, any final thoughts 

912
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,080
before we wrap up? 
No, no, Galen, you know, ready 

913
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,360
to watch the Detroit Tigers in 
the play offs, but yes. 

914
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,840
From the Tigers, I love it. 
It's great. 

915
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Yeah, I can't be distracted. 
Well, folks, we'll go ahead and 

916
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,520
wrap up then. 
Taylor, really appreciate the 

917
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,160
time as always and thanks to all
you folks for listening in. 

918
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,600
We'll be back. 
Actually, I don't know whether 

919
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,000
this is going to drop before or 
after, but check out Scott's 

920
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,600
interview with the folks from 
Punt John. 

921
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,240
Punt. 
We got them out of retirement. 

922
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,680
They're going to talk some IU 
football. 

923
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
So go check that show out and 
also check out our recap coming 

924
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,760
up on Sunday for Taylor Layman. 
I'm Galen Clavio, you're 

925
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,920
listening or watching the 
Crimson cast. 

926
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,400
We'll catch you folks. 
On the flip side, bring back the

927
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Bison. 
Stay never daunted. 

928
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,800
So long, everybody.
