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How you doing, man? 

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Good. 
Good. 

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Thanks. 
Thanks for having me on. 

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It's starting to gear up for 
towards March. 

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So good time here. 
Yeah, I don't want that point 

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That's like six weeks or 
selection Sunday, and you're 

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starting to look at the Big Ten 
and it's like, wow, like that 

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means we're, you know, four and 
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Absolutely. 

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It's sneaking up. 
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I want to start here. 
You know, we're kind of Midway 

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point of the Big Ten season and 
obviously we'll kind of focus on

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Indiana some points. 
But who, who are you most 

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disappointed with is, you look 
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surprised with the most? 
I think that from the 

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disappointing side of things, I 
think it has to be Michigan. 

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Yeah. 
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preseason. 
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They look loaded. 
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talking about Devonte Jones, who
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big Ten's best recruiting class,
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It was the nation's best 
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And then Hunter Dickinson, who 
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last year, looked primed. 
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absolutely a bubble team. 
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either way as far as whether 
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you know, tomorrow was selection
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definitely been the most 
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The second to them, I would say,
Maryland which has been just 

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kind of a mess on and off the 
court this year from a positive 

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standpoint. 
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been has been one of the teams 
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positive way because, you know, 
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transition obviously, but I 
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sure what to expect bringing a 
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for the most part. 
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getting a lot better results 
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is just Fortune worth for the 
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but I think they have been a 
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overachieving team, Michigan 
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I was one of the ones who kind 
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going to be about lot better 
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But I think just from the fact 
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that have positively surprised 
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well. 
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Let's talk about Indiana first 
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I'm sure want to talk about. 

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So curious to get your thoughts 
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perspective. 
I agree. 

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I mean, it's been, it's been 
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I've been trying to tell people 
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Those are kind of my, we're kind
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that I had for us this year kind
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making the tournament to me. 
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most impressive is the defense 
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Are we look at the conference, 
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We're one of the top. 
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You're seeing that start to 
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What do you see kind of in the 
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you've been impressed with? 
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curious, your thoughts. 
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want to rehash the past, but 
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so ready to get rid of Archie. 
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We haven't talked to you, 
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Like, did you think this was the
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Were you skeptical on it and 
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seeing out of Woodson so far? 
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I think the defense has been 
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it really, it seems like it's 
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Hasma up to 16th now. 
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But yeah, I think it's that. 
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Going back to, you know, arching
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He they gave them, I don't know 
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year because they probably would
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tournament out been canceled. 
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maybe with an asterisk on there.
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Indiana basketball and but it 
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And a lot of these games will go
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It's not a higher that I was 
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really really long history of 
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of great players. 
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it was a calculated risk so far,
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well. 
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This will be his last year. 
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or I never can keep track of the
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or Junior like, everyone just 
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Yeah, it's a mess. 
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how he's done this year? 
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but Yeah, I mean, I think 
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They're dangerous and really, 
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always felt like Archie Miller, 
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just from the three-point line. 
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deep and this year, like they're
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better, which is really speaks 
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performance across the board 
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So impressive job so far. 
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most are you fans us agree. 
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You mentioned that you at 20:20 
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It is tough because we've always
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We would like all your archenemy
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asterisk, like you probably 
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the trouble with that is, I 
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credit had we would have been 
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It would have been By the skin 
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point five and three in the Big 
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11. 
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joke, we won the Big Ten 
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We play the last game. 
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would be Nebraska co-champs. 
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dollar, we won the game. 
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They had you. 
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game wins the tournament. 
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but yes, it's gonna be you're 
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But if the defense is really a 
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the the Archie Miller thing is 
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defensive guys as a Collide, you
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work. 
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never willfully. 
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the, the NBA draft is always a 
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coaches is odd because Archie, 
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than I'll ever know. 
He has a system, but it dating 

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like his teams were tough. 
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That's what those dating teams 
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tournament. 
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They The guys who got the 
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didn't translate Indiana. 
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that works and doesn't, you 
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example, you guys coming from 
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it's like, Chris holtmann is 
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State and works there. 
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why Archie couldn't get it done.
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As some guys are able to do it 
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It doesn't, it doesn't seem to 
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which is why I'm happy Indiana. 
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You know, we're going to go with
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Hot young Prospect. 
Like, let's try some different. 

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Let's get a guy with some NBA 
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The Indiana ties, who cares, but
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interesting. 
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predict like, who, who's going 
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It's going to come in and do 
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And I think it's a fair point 
and well-timed here to with what

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has happened with Louisville. 
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guy that was just destined for, 
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We built, you know, did really, 
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wonder because you get to 
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recruit different guys than you 
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I know he built a great program 
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They have a national 
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I know the banner came down, but
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championship in modern history 
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They don't know how to work with
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Those high-level guys, the 
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to be playing in the NBA later 
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Talent. 
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continue the success and he hits
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some of those guys. 
It'll be interesting to see how 

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he Works with them versus 
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Archie Miller who got their 
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unheralded, guys, who you know, 
blow up or develop when they get

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there. 
So, yeah, I think that's an 

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interesting point and I may be 
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encouraging for Hoosier fans. 
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you mentioned kind of the 
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is, that is what it has felt 
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know, there was, you know, I 
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stuff, but, you know, I don't 
get to did two of the weeds of 

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Indiana history, but it is, it 
does feel like we're in a, in a 

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nice spot with Woodson, who a 
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here, and seems to be able to 
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And, you know, again, we're 
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you know, you're starting to see
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And that that's always been, you
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Purdue because Matt, I'm curious
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Painter has done a fantastic job
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the last 20 years of the success
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But you do kind of see the 
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lot of Talent with Indiana's 
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It the the dumps. 
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know, Robbie Hummel and each one
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Mine, Indiana, the state of 
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really recruiting and the ones 
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doing well. 
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Indiana guys. 
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kind of come in and start me on 
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That was always, the thing is, 
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It does feel like Woodson, might
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after you know guys and you know
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every single top 25. 
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those connections. 
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this in Indiana feel like that's
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the best Midwest guys, and you 
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You're going to do two things 
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you're also going to hurt your 
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you know, Purdue Ohio State 
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the talent, Indiana. 
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Art, I think to me, one of the 
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hear about, you know, for 
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know, when's the Big Ten going 
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again? 
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depending on how you count the 
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I don't count it as a Big Ten 
title in the earth. 

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You know that, you know, I 
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No, it's Michigan. 
Michigan, State won. 

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The last one. 
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It's because the what I consider
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Indiana and that that's why I 
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Just because I'm on this 
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I really feel like Indiana is 
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It's better than anybody else in
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Just in terms of national 
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able to break through is because
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mess for a lot of, a lot of the 
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As we say here, we've been in 
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Like we've just been out the 
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Are you go? 
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couple good years sprinkled in 
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But because you need, if you're 
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Championship, unless you're 
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your Yukon or something like 
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elite level. 
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and you got to have it mixed 
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players here and there's really 
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Big Ten that I feel like 
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go out and get those types of 
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talking year in and year out 
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the league, you know, Maryland, 
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Michigan, State's done it, where
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two years in a row where they've
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one of the few where you can 
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recruit. 
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these Wilderness years. 
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good prospects. 
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feel like that is is one of the 
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of the big talking points when 
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league was that you know, the 
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to all this new talent and these
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And and the like and for me, 
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Ten and the Midwest already have
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talent. 
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Indiana, you mentioned 
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I have a lot of great players. 
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great players. 
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midwest to build a great team 
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Yeah, if Woodson can sort of 
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the de facto of Target for a lot
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and Indiana, maybe even parts of
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That's that's for sure. 
Now, I will use this. 

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You punched your repeat visit on
the podcast, anytime you want 

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and send those. 
And of things. 

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No II agree with you? 
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you're I think Michigan state is
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the class of the Big Ten for 20 
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And they've it's kind of 
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another title because they've 
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punching, their ticket getting 
the final four. 

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I think they've been able to do 
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But I agree with what you said 
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you'll pisses off all the 
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I know who are produced France, 
but you know, I look at them as 

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again, they've had a fantastic 
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And they've had really good 
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You're just starting to see it. 
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this narrative a little bit, but
it's always been that, you know,

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they've been consistent. 
They've been fantastic. 

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But it's like a car. 
Doesn't have that like, six 

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gear. 
Like they can do that. 

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But like you look at again, you 
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us. 
All they want. 

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But you know, we we've out in 
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year we kind of put together in 
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going a little run, would come 
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Ranked 1 in the country. 
It's like once we figure our 

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shit out. 
We get things running like 

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Indiana's, got a 6 gear or we 
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level. 
It's like we're now an elite top

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level program and it does, it 
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that in a recruiting. 
But I'm with you. 

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I don't feel like other teams in
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kind of just steady Eddie. 
And again, it feels like Purdue 

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is just doesn't like have that 
ability to get that next level 

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gear. 
Like Illinois can do it. 

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Sometimes then they just fall 
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know, and so I If you kissing 
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it that way. 
But yeah, I don't know. 

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Yeah, it's it'll be it'll be fun
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as somebody who covers the Big 
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It's nice to have Indiana back 
to playing at a top 25. 

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Ish level may be better. 
I mean, even that Purdue Indiana

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game like it's so fun watching 
those games. 

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So it's fun and hopefully 
they're here for a bit way more 

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fun than watching that, that 
Michigan game. 

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But you mentioned And teams not 
winning the title. 

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Like that was a game. 
I want your take on this, they 

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want to talk about Big Ten 
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I'm curious your thoughts on it 
because it's Indiana fans. 

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It drives me nuts and I watched 
that game and, you know, the 

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game against Purdue wasn't, it 
was an example, we ended up 

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winning, but you know, and I 
know that Edie is a, is a 

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handful. 
But you have traced Jackson, 

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Dave's out there. 
Who's one of the top players in 

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the Big Ten? 
And I'm not saying they need to 

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have, like, you'll start 
treatment. 

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It's like, do you really owe 
Jackson Davis? 

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Average is 1.9 fouls a game for 
his career. 

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He hasn't had 4,000 a game in, 
like two years. 

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And so, then he gets four 
thousand nine minutes. 

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Now. 
I know he's coming off an 

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injury. 
He's not as fast like I know 

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that Edie is a handful but you 
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called so erratically. 
So often it feels like the refs 

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are such a part of the game and 
yet they have such little 

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control and then you have these 
things where like, you know, a 

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great player just get three or 
four 1,000 ended up working out.

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Alright, for Indiana, in that 
case. 

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Because fantasy went, what 
Bonkers? 

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But I've always felt like part 
of the problem in the tournament

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is that the Big Ten officiating 
is so bad. 

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And so unclear that when they 
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start to like look around like, 
you know, Purdue's going to be 

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like, why are we get these fouls
called media? 

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It's like oh, yeah because we're
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like you're just going to have a
team like Kentucky just bum-rush

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you like. 
I'm I'm curious what your 

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thought is in that, you know, 
looking at the whole the league 

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is a whole. 
I've been ranting about it for 

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years. 
I feel like the Big Ten 

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officiating has And as you said 
erratic and I think really, 

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really Divergent from what you 
see out of postseason. 

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And I think to me an example to 
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Michigan's teams under John 
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perform in one way for it seemed
like it took almost 45 years for

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them to finally break through in
the big tent there in the 

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tournament. 
I think the year they made the 

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final four were Trey Burke. 
It was that your with Cody? 

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Zeller you were mentioning 
earlier. 

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Yep. 
I want to say they were like fit

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the fifth seed, in the Big Ten 
tournament and it really felt 

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like they got to the NCAA 
tournament there like any, we 

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can play our style of 
basketball. 

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Now, you know, we're not playing
with the Big Ten reps on our 

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back. 
So it was I feel like that 

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that's an example and you know 
the other night Michigan plays 

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Northwestern not a super high 
profile game, but I think there 

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were forty six fouls in that 
game. 

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It was just utterly unwatchable 
for its egg. 

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It's and I'm hoping they will 
improve it at some point. 

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I'm doubtful. 
It'll happen. 

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But, you know, fingers crossed. 
They at least make it a little 

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closer to what we see. 
Nationally. 

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It does. 
Make you understand why? 

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Fran mccaffery wigs out. 
Every third game is like I do 

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get it. 
Like why you're gonna check 

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every third game? 
Haven't seen the chair recently.

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So he's making some progress. 
Haven't seen it yet. 

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I will, I gotta say this that 
game where we played them. 

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He so effectively. 
He used the T like, you know, 

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the game was kind of in flux and
we start to make a little Run. 

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The game was getting a little 
nutty and then McCaffrey just 

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went nuts. 
Got a tea and then the way the 

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refs called the game completely 
changed and it got kind of ugly 

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and I mean Iowa played it to 
their style and ended up 

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winning, but you could it was a 
moment where I'm like, oh man, 

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like I hate saying the frame 
McCaffrey like out coach 

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Woodson, but damn he played he 
played the rest and played all 

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of that, you know to good 
effect, which is never fun. 

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So absolutely. 
All right. 

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Go ahead. 
Good. 

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So looking at the Big Ten as a 
whole, I am just going to start 

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with this. 
It's annoying because they've 

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always been good and they always
end up being good. 

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But to me, it's like I think 
this is Michigan. 

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State's like I know you just had
the power rankings that you put 

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up on the BT Powerhouse site. 
People are kind of looking, you 

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know, who's it's kind of an odd 
spot, because nobody really 

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seems to have an upper leg at 
winning the Big Ten title. 

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But I look at it. 
I think Michigan State's got an 

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inside leg. 
And I look at it. 

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Just because their next few 
games, they have Maryland 

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Rutgers on the road. 
Like, that's nice. 

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They have Wisconsin and Indiana 
at home. 

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You possible Wednesday at Penn 
State on the road. 

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Like they're three of the next 
row. 

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Games are Maryland Rutgers and 
Penn State. 

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That's pretty good. 
If northwestern's not involved 

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as well. 
They're home to Illinois. 

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I mean at Iowa and then, you 
know home to Purdue. 

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They could theoretically with 
all those games up until that 

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Purdue game. 
They play in East Lansing, which

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could put them at Tetum to in 
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If you give them a lost 
somewhere in there, but I don't 

448
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,000
know, I look at that when you 
look at everyone else's 

449
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,200
schedule, like obviously you 
have what the Illinois, 

450
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,700
Wisconsin game is kind of going 
to depend on where those teams 

451
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,300
laying out. 
I just, I look at Michigan. 

452
00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,000
State has a pretty easy Runway, 
the next three weeks. 

453
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,400
Yeah. 
I mean, I, I tried, I threw this

454
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,200
in, when I did my power rankings
and I ended up dropping the 

455
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:38,900
state actually this week. 
Yeah. 

456
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:41,700
Like a nerd, right? 
Yeah, and I feel bad about it 

457
00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,900
because I was like, you know, 
they're combat, they just They 

458
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:47,200
beat Wisconsin like a week and a
half ago and they blew out 

459
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,700
Michigan over the weekend. 
So I was like man, I feel bad 

460
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:52,700
dropping them. 
But the top four, I really feel 

461
00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:55,900
like it's a it's a tear with 
with the top for you got Purdue,

462
00:22:55,900 --> 00:23:00,600
Illinois, Michigan State and 
Wisconsin, and I really feel 

463
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,800
like they're all really close 
one game slips here. 

464
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,600
There they move up and down. 
So it's bizarre because it's 

465
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,000
rare that we get all the way to 
February where you're like four 

466
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,300
deep depending on your view of 
Ohio State. 

467
00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,400
B5 deep. 
I think the Buckeyes are a 

468
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,800
little bit back from the top 
floor. 

469
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,900
But yeah, Michigan state has a 
pretty solid line up here. 

470
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:25,400
Moving forward. 
The thing that I found really 

471
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,500
interesting was T rank, which is
like the Ken pom. 

472
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,200
I don't want to call it a 
knockoff, but the Pepsi to Coke 

473
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:37,500
of do we Advanced analytics? 
We reference both them on this, 

474
00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:38,600
on this podcast. 
We locate. 

475
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,700
Okay. 
Well, good, good. 

476
00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:42,600
I know some people aren't as 
familiar with t rank but he does

477
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,500
a Big Ten title. 
Allods projection and he has 

478
00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:49,100
Purdue at 42 percent chance to 
get a share of the title, 

479
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,600
Michigan State, 20% chance, 
which I found just baffling 

480
00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:55,200
because of what you're saying, 
which is Michigan. 

481
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,600
State has a pretty manageable 
slate moving forward. 

482
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,100
I think part of it is the 
advanced stats just don't seem 

483
00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:04,900
to love the Spartans right now, 
for whatever reason and love, 

484
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:07,400
Purdue. 
I presume because there, they 

485
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,900
seemed generally tailored 
towards the offensive end and 

486
00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:12,600
obviously produce offense is 
fantastic. 

487
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,100
This year. 
Um, but yeah, I mean, if 

488
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,800
Michigan State can take care, 
this is one of these weeks where

489
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:20,600
you look at it. 
Michigan State. 

490
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,100
As you mentioned, they get 
Maryland tonight on the road and

491
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,500
then they get Rutgers on the 
road on Saturday, where these 

492
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:29,000
should be winds. 
And a lot of times this, these 

493
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,800
are the types of games. 
Where the Big Ten title is 

494
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,300
decided where it's some stupid 
road came. 

495
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,900
Have Phil gym or something where
you should win, you put in half 

496
00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:40,200
and effort and you end up 
losing. 

497
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:45,900
So, yeah, I mean, That Wisconsin
home game afterwards should be, 

498
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:49,600
it should be a fun one, but I 
really think Michigan State and 

499
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,500
Purdue are the teams to beat as 
far as getting a share of that 

500
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:57,600
title and it will be something 
if we got too late, February 22,

501
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,300
played and had the title online.
Yeah. 

502
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:04,400
I just I get I'm always a big. 
I look at the schedule and 

503
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Michigan State. 
Just has this great run coming 

504
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,900
up because again, they play 
Wisconsin. 

505
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:13,300
Who Wisconsin? 
Pretty good, too. 

506
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,500
So I think that could be a very 
tough game, but it's in East 

507
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:19,600
Lansing and then they owe the 
next game is Indiana. 

508
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,800
We just we have not shown an 
ability to play good 

509
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,400
competition. 
Well on the road, maybe 

510
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Maryland, but I don't know what 
Maryland's going on. 

511
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800
Yeah, I mean, Penn State. 
It's just they have a nice 

512
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,300
Runway. 
Right? 

513
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:33,200
Look at every other team. 
It's like they're either playing

514
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,200
each other or they have some 
tougher games in there. 

515
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,100
So, yeah, it's gonna be 
interesting. 

516
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,100
How many teams did you think? 
What? 

517
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,000
You Mission. 
Michigan earlier, which again? 

518
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:46,600
I agree. 
They've been down until they 

519
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,800
played us and they looked like 
that was exactly the moment. 

520
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,400
You're like. 
Oh, yeah. 

521
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600
This is why they were ranked 
like fourth in the country to 

522
00:25:52,608 --> 00:25:56,200
start the season. 
Like they had themselves a game 

523
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,900
and a half against us. 
Do you think they can pull it 

524
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:04,300
back up because they're kind of,
the reverse mean they have 

525
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,300
Nebraska at home tonight, which 
should be a win. 

526
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,700
But then, I mean, they're at 
Purdue at Penn State, which is, 

527
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,300
you know, that's not hard, but 
that's that's getting harder. 

528
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Order. 
But then home to Purdue again 

529
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,700
and then Ohio State and then, 
you know, Iowa, Wisconsin like 

530
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:22,900
they have a much tougher, really
do you, do you see them getting 

531
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:25,700
what they need to do to get back
into the NCAA tournament. 

532
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,500
I think Michigan is going to end
up making it, I think it's going

533
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,600
to be really tight. 
And I think they're going to be 

534
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,700
one of those teams where they're
going to come into the Big Ten 

535
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,300
tournament. 
They're probably going to be 

536
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,800
seated on the second day and 
they're probably going to have 

537
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,600
to win a game. 
If not to the the Most 

538
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,100
interesting thing that I think 
for the Wolverines moving 

539
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,500
forward is they had one of those
covid outbreaks, and they had to

540
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,500
adjourn their games against 
Purdue and Michigan State. 

541
00:26:52,508 --> 00:26:57,400
And the rescheduled, for you 
mentioned, they get Purdue at 

542
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400
home. 
It's the February 10th and then 

543
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,200
March 1st, they just added the 
Michigan State game, which a lot

544
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,500
of the schedule, guys, don't 
even have it on their sites yet.

545
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:10,100
But the game, those games are 
hard enough by themselves, but 

546
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:15,100
if you look at where they place 
them, It's like they play a game

547
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
day off. 
Play a game. 

548
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,000
Okay, off play a game. 
So it's really compressed the 

549
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000
last month of the Season, which 
I mean some teams seem to thrive

550
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000
on that. 
I'm a little skeptical of how 

551
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,600
Michigan's going to be 
performing once they get through

552
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,500
some of that. 
But I think Michigan. 

553
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:34,600
They've been playing better 
recently. 

554
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,200
I know they lost to Michigan 
State last Saturday, but I did, 

555
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,300
to me, they still won three out 
of four. 

556
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,200
I think they're trending up. 
I think that was it. 

557
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:47,500
Game, they probably were lost 
regardless and really if they 

558
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,600
can just win. 
You mentioned, that Penn State 

559
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,800
game on the road. 
That's going to be a really 

560
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,900
important one. 
Take care of some of those 

561
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:54,800
winnable games. 
I think they're going to be 

562
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,500
there when all said and done 
because their strength of 

563
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,800
schedule is really, really 
strong and it's going to remain 

564
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,000
strong with all these Big Ten 
teams. 

565
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:06,600
Like, I don't know if people 
realize this but in the net 

566
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:11,700
rankings there like late low, 
30s High 40s or so, which is 

567
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:15,900
pretty solid given. 
Their General consensus, which 

568
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,300
is that they're right on the 
edge of the tournament. 

569
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,700
I think if you get selection 
Sunday and they're like 35th or 

570
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,800
something than that, they're 
probably going to slide it. 

571
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,300
Yeah, not me their 30-second can
Palm right now, even though they

572
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:31,600
are like 10 and 84 in the Big 
Ten, but now I'm with you. 

573
00:28:31,608 --> 00:28:33,500
I think they're going to be 
really interesting to see 

574
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,100
because their schedule, like you
said is so compressed and you 

575
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,800
could even see that again with, 
you know, Indiana, you know, we 

576
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,000
have these little runs where 
it's like, We won the Purdue 

577
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,400
game, and then it's like three 
days later. 

578
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,800
You gotta go, play Michigan. 
And there's like, he's just 

579
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:50,200
like, obviously the team is 
going nuts there while, but it's

580
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,800
like three days turn around, you
got to do that. 

581
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200
And same thing with, you know, 
we have like a little stretch 

582
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,700
there. 
We had Ohio State Minnesota, 

583
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,600
Iowa, just like boom, Thursday 
Sunday, Thursday. 

584
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,200
She's like boom boom. 
Boom, just back to back to back.

585
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,400
So it's going to be interesting 
to see if that, you know, when 

586
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,300
that catches up to them, if it 
does. 

587
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,800
But you figure it'll catch up. 
Sometime in one of those almost 

588
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,700
back to backs or fit. 
Like you said, if they get to 

589
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:12,400
the Big Ten Tournament, they 
have to win a game and they're 

590
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,300
just so, So beat down like I 
would, definitely not expect 

591
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:16,800
them to make a run to the Big 
Ten Tournament. 

592
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,100
Just based on the fact they're 
going to have played probably 

593
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:21,700
like four more games and 
everybody else between now and 

594
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:24,400
then mmm. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

595
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,900
And I like I said, I'm 
interested to see but man that 

596
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,100
the last couple weeks of 
February going to be really 

597
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,800
tough for Michigan and we'll see
how they're bent. 

598
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,000
This is a time where, you know, 
I'm normally not high on benches

599
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,100
in college basketball. 
I think they're overrated for 

600
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,900
the most part but this is a time
where Michigan's probably gonna 

601
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,700
have to Lean on the bench a 
little bit and hope that it can 

602
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,600
get them through, you know, a 
game against Nebraska or Penn 

603
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Stater. 
Again. 

604
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,600
Some of the more winnable games 
on the Slate. 

605
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,700
Yeah, being a big tank. 
I'm just curious. 

606
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:58,800
We just played Maryland. 
What what happened with church? 

607
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,500
I think that was, I mean, we all
saw it, he was gone to 

608
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,300
beginning, it a very odd time to
let somebody go and then nothing

609
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:05,400
really hurts. 
All right, Danny man. 

610
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,300
He's coaching. 
Like, I'm just curious, you 

611
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,300
know, I, as I you fan of just 
kind of put my head down and 

612
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:14,600
focus on IU and worry about us, 
but What is going on there? 

613
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,400
Because you saw that story. 
It's like there's some there's 

614
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,800
more here than just he wants to 
leave early. 

615
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,200
It feels that way the timing and
everything, which is very 

616
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,900
bizarre. 
But I have I have not heard 

617
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:25,400
anything else. 
I also have not been seeking 

618
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,100
out, you know, Maryland 
basketball info. 

619
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,300
Yeah. 
I mean, it seems like there was 

620
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:33,500
some some split between him and 
some issues with some of the 

621
00:30:33,508 --> 00:30:38,800
coaches up to some questionable 
activities, outside the games to

622
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:46,900
put it lightly and I don't know.
He I'm I described him not to 

623
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:51,600
get too to In The Weeds on this 
but like a a year, a year ago. 

624
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,700
I described his tenure as akin 
to what Jim Harbaugh's was at 

625
00:30:55,708 --> 00:30:59,100
Michigan. 
If you're a football fan, just 

626
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,500
in the guise of, like, the teams
have been pretty good. 

627
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,300
They just never break through 
and do anything and it, really, 

628
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:10,300
I think created this just 
extreme frustration with the fan

629
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:14,000
base and the coaches and the 
players and it seemed like It 

630
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,900
just finally hit a Breaking 
Point. 

631
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,600
That's my read on it. 
At least and I think it will 

632
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,900
probably be good for all parties
in the long run. 

633
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,400
I'm I still I haven't seen. 
I don't know if it seems like 

634
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,700
they're almost acting. 
Like Manning is is going to be 

635
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,500
the head guy moving forward, but
I can't imagine that they're not

636
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:38,400
going to go out there and see 
who else is on the market, but 

637
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:42,000
they're in a fertile fertile, 
recruiting area. 

638
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,700
They have a die-hard fan. 
Fan base. 

639
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,700
So I mean, this should be a 
program capable of some big 

640
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:50,200
things and they really haven't 
done much with them. 

641
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,800
Couple, sweet 16s, but never 
felt like they were real. 

642
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,600
I mean, I know they won that Big
Ten title, but never never 

643
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,500
really felt like they were on 
the edge of anything great. 

644
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:07,300
I'd agree with that looking at 
just the bubble will come back 

645
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,400
to that whole on what will come 
back to the tournament a second.

646
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,300
I want to talk like 
all-conference players. 

647
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:12,500
I think it's interesting, you 
know. 

648
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,100
We're obviously looking at it 
through the guise of Trace 

649
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,100
Jackson Davis, who's no longer 
on, you know, Ken Palms All 

650
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:22,200
Conference team, which is just, 
you know, 11 barometer. 

651
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,400
Who do you see as the 
all-conference player this year?

652
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,700
Because Johnny Davis had his 
moment with Wisconsin, you know,

653
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,800
Jane IV has had that great shot 
for Purdue. 

654
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800
He's awesome. 
But you know, he's gonna play 

655
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,700
enough. 
Liddell has been good at Ohio 

656
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,200
State but he's had some 
no-shows. 

657
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,300
And then you know again, Tres 
Jackson Davis has been 

658
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,900
fantastic. 
But he's also a little bit 

659
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,200
one-dimensional which I have a 
question for you about that, 

660
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,100
also, but I'm curious. 
Where do you see kind of the Big

661
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,800
Ten Player of the Year shaking 
out. 

662
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,700
I mean, I think it's going to 
depend on the next month and I 

663
00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:02,400
know that's a little bit of a 
cop-out but just because like 

664
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,900
like you mentioned there's a 
good five, six seven guys, 

665
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:08,900
depending on how you, you know, 
view certain players that are 

666
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,700
really, really playing at a high
level to me. 

667
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,700
I would say. 
Liddell and Davis are the guys. 

668
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:20,000
I would be looking at the most 
for Player of the Year Liddell. 

669
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600
It just seems so consistent 
night in and night out. 

670
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,000
I know he's had a couple games 
that weren't his best, but the 

671
00:33:26,008 --> 00:33:30,200
guy just keeps producing and 
Davis, obviously, went 

672
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,100
absolutely ballistic. 
I'm for a couple weeks there to 

673
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,900
start the new year and if he can
replicate anything close to that

674
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,500
here down the stretch. 
I think he will probably get the

675
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:46,700
nod. 
I'm Keegan Murray, Zach Edie 

676
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:49,200
treyvion Williams. 
I'm not quite as high on. 

677
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:53,400
I think all of them have some 
issues in their game, not to 

678
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,100
diminish their play because 
they've all been great, but I 

679
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,500
have them a little bit of a step
back. 

680
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,100
And yeah, Jackson Davis has got 
to be in the conversation as 

681
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,000
well. 
At least for all Big Ten. 

682
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,400
And then I would say, Kofi 
Colburn should be in the running

683
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,100
as well. 
But it seems like he's missing a

684
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:15,100
game every couple of weeks. 
So I'm I'll be curious to see if

685
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:19,000
you really has the full resume 
necessary to make the list at 

686
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,400
season's end. 
But obviously, when he's on the 

687
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,300
floor, he's a great player. 
No, he's good. 

688
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400
The thing with Johnny Davis is 
interesting is he probably feels

689
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,199
like he might win it. 
And it's a weird like almost 

690
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,600
anti new stats because his 
numbers are, and my dad got love

691
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,300
them. 
Is 90 gonna be 92 years old this

692
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:41,500
year, but he all he looks as it,
you know, points and rebounds 

693
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:45,199
like he's like, just locked in, 
you know, now. 1984 stat mode, 

694
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000
you know, Johnny Davis is 
awesome for those numbers, but 

695
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,600
you look at some he's almost 
Allen Iverson s like some of the

696
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,100
games will still put up like, 
you know, 14 minutes against 

697
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:55,900
Ohio State, but it's like 3 or 
13 shooting like, of all his 

698
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:58,100
offensive rating. 
Even in those times. 

699
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:02,500
He went ballistic, you know, 
four of the last six games. 

700
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:07,500
He has sub-100 offensive rating.
So, it is from an analytical 

701
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:10,100
point of view. 
It's like his numbers wall, 

702
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,400
pretty amazing. 
And by the way, watching him 

703
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,600
play, Indiana, You're like this 
guy's Transcendent. 

704
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,500
He is just at a different level.
So there's no debating that, but

705
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,400
also like the advanced stats 
aren't super kind to him either.

706
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:25,400
Yeah, I think part of that is 
just because Wisconsin, depends 

707
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
so much on them where they're 
just there for him. 

708
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,900
Throw him the ball, and hey, 
please save us, especially a 

709
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,400
month or so ago. 
Where it's since then it seems 

710
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,500
like the guys have picked up a 
little bit around him. 

711
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,400
I don't know if that's just 
development or they really he 

712
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,700
inspiring. 
Um, I don't know. 

713
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,800
But yeah, for the conference, 
like to 32% of possessions or 

714
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,100
through him. 
Yeah. 

715
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,900
Yeah. 
So, I mean, he's dominating the 

716
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:53,700
ball when it when he's on the 
floor and, you know, remaining 

717
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:55,800
pretty productive. 
I agree. 

718
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,800
I think he's Advanced numbers 
are a little bit weaker. 

719
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,500
I mean if you're looking at just
the raw box score totals, I 

720
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:06,500
think he's the easy pick your 
but I think if you analyze a 

721
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:10,800
little bit more, I like Liddell 
like his consistency, but you 

722
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,100
know of Davis can keep putting 
up. 

723
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,600
Mr. Numbers. 
Yeah, I would say he's probably 

724
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,900
the leader. 
Now. 

725
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,600
I agree with your dad's, take at
least 10, at least on that, but 

726
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:30,100
it'll be interesting to see just
because, I don't know if that 

727
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,300
Centric posted focus of him, 
dominating the ball so much is, 

728
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,000
he's gonna kind of hurt his 
stats as we move towards March. 

729
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,800
Yeah, it's all I will also say 
just you mention Zach ET. 

730
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000
I saw him in person for the 
first time. 

731
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,900
This year because obviously 
didn't see him last year and 

732
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:48,100
person. 
Um, it's wild at Purdue now has 

733
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:51,600
that like Michigan State always 
seem to four years have like, 

734
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:55,600
the the Draymond Green type 
look, just the 68 power for you.

735
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,500
Just gonna bust your ass inside,
and that's what they'd go. 

736
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:02,200
And now, it's like for new 
always has this just massive, 

737
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:04,200
massive big, white boy in the 
middle of yet. 

738
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Isaac Haas, you harms. 
And now Zack, ET is, I mean, 

739
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,900
he's all of 74, if not more, and
he's thick like he reminds Just 

740
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:18,200
body size of like Rik Smits like
just super thick like that is 

741
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,700
one of the biggest kids I've 
ever seen. 

742
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:21,600
Come through the Big Ten. 
Yeah. 

743
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,900
I mean if you can get a chance 
to see him in real life, it is 

744
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,700
quite it's not real tight. 
Yeah. 

745
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:31,000
Yeah, really, really physical. 
And, you know, I think the thing

746
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,100
he has on Isaac has and some of 
the other guys recently is he 

747
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,200
seems to play a lot faster below
and Around the Net at least I 

748
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,300
think so, but he liked a lot. 
Other big men, you know, but the

749
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,200
big issue I would have of Notch 
and him as Big Ten Player of the

750
00:37:47,207 --> 00:37:49,400
Year. 
Something is just the playing 

751
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,900
time, you know, versus some of 
these guys that are out there 

752
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:55,300
just all the time. 
He's played 44% of produce 

753
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:59,300
minutes, which isn't isn't crazy
for a big man, especially with 

754
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,500
Williams. 
They're playing with him up 

755
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:03,600
front. 
But to me, that's the thing 

756
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,700
where I'm like, I just have a 
hard time on principal saying 

757
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:08,600
this guy's the best player in 
the league and he didn't even 

758
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,900
play half the minutes. 
Well, that's true. 

759
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:14,300
And I think also that would be I
was a Purdue fan. 

760
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:17,500
This would be eating me away. 
As I'd be so nervous at how he 

761
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:21,100
does in the NCAA tournament 
cause I feel like he's a guy who

762
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,000
having watched him play. 
Now in person. 

763
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:27,100
You know, he you could call 
Travel every time he gets the 

764
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,300
ball. 
I don't think he travels but he 

765
00:38:28,308 --> 00:38:32,400
just he moves a little awkward. 
They me dude. 74 was huge. 

766
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,500
Yeah, but you could call foul 
every play and it's that like 

767
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,500
same problem where you know, you
could call a foul on him. 

768
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,000
You can call found the guy, you 
know playing defense on him and 

769
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,200
it feels like those types of 
Guys who are kind of big and 

770
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,700
unwieldy and tough to figure 
out. 

771
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,400
It feels like they're always not
called to help you out in the 

772
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,400
tournament. 
So I'd be worried about that but

773
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,200
it's it where they're here at 
like between him then Jaden IV. 

774
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,900
Who would Johnny Davis like two 
of the most explosive players in

775
00:39:00,908 --> 00:39:02,800
the Big Ten? 
That's where Purdue could be 

776
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,100
interesting. 
But again, Ivy has again, I'm 

777
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,600
going off of what I signing seen
him to other games. 

778
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,500
That you've definitely that, I 
you gave he'd lost his mind 

779
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,000
there for a while, but then came
back. 

780
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,700
Can was determined but you could
definitely get him rattled like 

781
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,600
it's a produced, an interesting 
team for the tournament. 

782
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,900
In just that I could see them 
having a nice run. 

783
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:24,600
I can also see them getting 
upset just based on kind of 

784
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,400
funky and stubble, a calls. 
Yeah, and the other, the other 

785
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,600
thing too is there, they're 
gradually, becoming the offense 

786
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,600
again. 
Fantastic, Ken Palm has them as 

787
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,900
the best offense in the country.
I don't know if I see them as 

788
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:41,600
quite that great, but clearly a 
really, really good offensive 

789
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,000
team, but those defensive 
numbers. 

790
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:47,700
Is have been a little troubling.
They've had some games where 

791
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:52,700
they've performed pretty well, 
but they're given up a lot of 

792
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:55,600
decent looks and it's hard to 
win. 

793
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Six games in March, when you're 
barely a top 100 defensive unit.

794
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Somebody's going to get hot and 
roast you if you're playing like

795
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,700
that. 
So I am a little concerned as 

796
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:12,900
you said about them actually 
being able to make the final 

797
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,500
four. 
Or and pull host, hold up that 

798
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:19,700
trophy on a Monday night. 
Well, the thing that I would 

799
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:22,500
always say is like when you look
at Ken Palm, which is not the 

800
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:25,400
end, all be all, but it's a very
good place to look like you just

801
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,100
click on any team, you go to the
left side. 

802
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:30,900
Like there's the four factors 
for offense and defense, you 

803
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,900
know, any team that's winning a 
title or it's in the top ten. 

804
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,500
I don't like, seeing one of 
those four factors being bright 

805
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,700
red. 
There's Dida red and, you know, 

806
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:42,200
their turnover percentage on 
defense is the worst in the 

807
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,100
country or not. 339th. 
I mean it's really bad. 

808
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,800
You saw it against Indiana. 
We're a team that turns the ball

809
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,300
over. 
We're getting better and that 

810
00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:51,400
might have been kind of a 
turning point. 

811
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,600
But I mean, that's what kill you
Iowa. 

812
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,900
We have a 25 turnovers or 
something and that game we had 

813
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:59,000
three turnovers and you thought 
like that's what helped us win. 

814
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,600
The game is, we were just not 
turning the ball over and you 

815
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,000
look at like, other teams that 
you look at Gonzaga and all 

816
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
their stuff is green. 
Except for like a true over 

817
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,400
percentage is their 224th the 
country. 

818
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,000
It's like not, it's not green, 
but it's not bright Reds. 

819
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:16,400
That's where I do worry about 
Purdue having those high-level 

820
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,200
abilities. 
Plus I'm an Indiana fans of 

821
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,300
always looking at ways to shit 
on Purdue's. 

822
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:24,700
Oh fair enough. 
Yeah, but I I think they're a 

823
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:26,500
team. 
That's that's absolutely capable

824
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,200
of making some noise. 
I mean, they knocked off 

825
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,600
Villanova earlier. 
In the year. 

826
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,300
They beat you in, see they beat 
no, Illinois on the road in that

827
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:36,500
crazy game on Martin, Luther 
King day. 

828
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:40,600
But yeah, it's just and I think 
you can almost look at their 

829
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000
resume and see if they like they
win a few games. 

830
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:46,000
Ames and then they blow one. 
Well, if you blow one and it's 

831
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,700
like, yeah for winning six 
straight and March that's 

832
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,700
usually not the best site. 
So how many teams you think get 

833
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:55,100
in the tournament from the big 
town? 

834
00:41:56,300 --> 00:42:01,500
So I think to me there are good.
I have, I did a little write-up 

835
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,200
on in a week or so ago and 
obviously things have changed, 

836
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,500
but I think there are five teams
that are basically locks at this

837
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:09,400
point. 
If they aren't there going to be

838
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,000
in the next week or two, 
Illinois. 

839
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,200
I miss you. 
Us. 

840
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,200
You Purdue Wisconsin, I think 
those are all in real real, safe

841
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,300
bets. 
There's a chance to all of them 

842
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:22,300
could be for seeds higher 
depending on how things fall. 

843
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:24,800
I think they're all ranked in 
the top 20 right now. 

844
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,400
At least in the polls, Indiana, 
Iowa. 

845
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,400
I think at this point are very, 
very highly likely that they're 

846
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,000
going to make it. 
It would take some pretty epic 

847
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,500
collapses at this point to miss 
out, not ruling it out. 

848
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,400
We've seen, Iowa knows deaf hard
in the last month of the season,

849
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,700
but Pretty hard to see those 
teams missing without, you know,

850
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,700
Marie going down. 
Jackson Davis going down, 

851
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:53,600
something weird. 
And then I think Michigan is 

852
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,500
squarely on the bubble. 
As I said earlier. 

853
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,000
I think they're going to Edge 
it. 

854
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
If they ended up in the first 
four, I would not be surprised 

855
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,300
at all because I really feel 
like they're going to be 

856
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,700
somewhere around there barring, 
you know, a couple big upsets 

857
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:09,900
that are hard to project and 
then what's interesting is I 

858
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,500
feel like you have five teams 
that are all in this similar. 

859
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:18,700
Tear Maryland, Minnesota 
Northwestern, Penn State 

860
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,100
Rutgers. 
They all have things that you 

861
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:24,700
can like but they're all clearly
a couple steps out of the field 

862
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,100
at this point. 
I don't feel like any of them 

863
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:29,100
are going to make it because I 
think they're going to beat up 

864
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,900
on each other too much to 
actually get across the Finish 

865
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,100
Line. 
I mean, I was even saying this 

866
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,900
to someone last night. 
I felt like one of the big 

867
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,500
Ten's, biggest issues. 
The last couple of years has 

868
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:43,900
been there, like two teams. 
Too deep. 

869
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:48,700
We're like, they need a couple 
more body bags for the good 

870
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:51,800
teams to beat up on like Penn 
State taking down Iowa. 

871
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Last night. 
It's like Penn State's, probably

872
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
not going to make it in there 
and they're hurting Iowa's 

873
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,200
resume with a loss and credit to
Penn State Credit, you know, 

874
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,000
obviously go out there and give 
it your all, but I feel like 

875
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,900
those five teams. 
So I my answer is your point. 

876
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:11,500
Cut you off and I like your 
answer is, like from February 

877
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:14,000
17th on Penn State. 
His Minnesota, Maryland, 

878
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Northwestern and Nebraska. 
It's like they're very squarely 

879
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,700
all playing each other. 
Yeah. 

880
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:20,900
Yeah. 
So I mean if any of those five, 

881
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:24,900
you know can up their play, you 
know, 10 15 %, They're going to 

882
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:27,200
have a real solid shot at 
getting there. 

883
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,400
But I think like you said, it's 
going to be this round, robin 

884
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,600
thing. 
We're all going to knock each 

885
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,900
other off too much and maybe one
of them can Edge into the NIT, 

886
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:42,000
maybe two, but probably not. 
Who do you think Big Ten gets a 

887
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,700
one seed? 
I don't think so this year. 

888
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:50,700
I think they have teams, you 
know, Purdue is obviously, I 

889
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:53,300
think has the strongest shot at 
it just because of the 

890
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,900
non-conference play. 
Although Wisconsin had a few 

891
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,400
nice winds as well, but I don't 
think so. 

892
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,900
Again, just because like, I 
think they're going to beat each

893
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:08,700
other a couple part times down 
the stretch, but I think you'll 

894
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,800
probably see. 
This is one of those years, you 

895
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,500
might see like two 2's or 
something. 

896
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:15,200
Yeah, and I think you're writing
because you could basically 

897
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,300
pencil in, you know, gonzaga's 
getting a one and probably 

898
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:20,800
Baylor's going to get the other 
one. 

899
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:23,700
But exactly your point. 
It goes our conferences that are

900
00:45:23,707 --> 00:45:27,600
just not as deep and maybe the 
same with Arizona, like Arizona 

901
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,900
might just be able to bang up on
a lot of bad teams. 

902
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,100
So, there you have three of the 
four there. 

903
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,800
If you had to put your stock on 
one big tents to win the title 

904
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,100
this year. 
This is the year, the Big Ten 

905
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:43,700
breaks the title, like, who do 
you think could make Final four 

906
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:46,000
and then also win a title. 
Oh, geez. 

907
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,100
I yeah, I mean, as I said 
before, I'm not a believer in 

908
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,400
Purdue actually making it all 
the way. 

909
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,900
I feel. 
Like the, let's talk more about 

910
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:57,800
that. 
Let's keep going. 

911
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,700
Yeah. 
I feel like I'm giving you guys 

912
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:05,600
all the great stuff today. 
The actually, I think Purdue has

913
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,000
the best shot to make the final 
four. 

914
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,200
It's just getting through those 
the six. 

915
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,600
I just, I can't see it. 
But I probably say Michigan 

916
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,600
State, even though, I'm, I don't
feel like this is the year of 

917
00:46:18,607 --> 00:46:21,900
the big Ten's going to break 
through and win it all. 

918
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,900
Although I want to say last 
year, the year before, I felt 

919
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:26,800
like they were, we finally set 
up. 

920
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,300
We were finally gonna break 
through and yeah, it happen. 

921
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:34,700
So who knows? 
But Michigan State, I think 

922
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:38,200
they're a really balanced team. 
I think they have a nice bench 

923
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,200
and I think they're a tough 
matchup. 

924
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,900
They can shoot get hot from 
three there. 

925
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:46,700
In the top 10 in three-point 
percentage this year, really, if

926
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:49,600
they can just fix some of those 
turnover problems, which have 

927
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,400
really been a problem with the 
last couple of years. 

928
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,500
So I'm not sure it's something 
they're going to be able to get 

929
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:57,800
under control. 
But if they can improve that 

930
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,200
even moderately, I think they'll
have a shot to make some real 

931
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,700
noise. 
Yeah. 

932
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:06,100
I know they're really balancing 
their off adjusted offense, is 

933
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,300
just a defense or both top, 30 
in the country and you just have

934
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:12,000
to, you know, is oh knows how to
coach teams to get, ready for 

935
00:47:12,008 --> 00:47:15,100
the tournament. 
It just does absolutely. 

936
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:19,000
I want a couple more things. 
One thing that I've been hitting

937
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000
on for a while curious your take
looking at things from a larger 

938
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Point. 
I've you know part of this is on

939
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,800
coaching part of this on the 
player. 

940
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:28,700
I don't know quite where it 
lands. 

941
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,400
I look at Trace Jackson Davis 
and he has been unworldly at 

942
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,300
Indiana. 
He's been fantastic. 

943
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,500
He's been great. 
His post defense this year. 

944
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:40,600
Has been amazing. 
You see the he's worked on with 

945
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,700
both hands. 
Like, he's now able to finish 

946
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:45,100
from both the left and the right
side, but his defense, he's 

947
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,200
blocking. 
A shots like in the post. 

948
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,100
He's Unstoppable. 
But I've said that I feel like I

949
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,800
wish he would have spent more 
time working on an outside shot.

950
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,200
I feel like that. 
I wish the team would have given

951
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,500
him more opportune. 
We see race Thompson is 

952
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:01,900
shooting, like sub 30 percent 
for us, but he's still taking 

953
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,400
you to one or two, three, 
averaging one or two, threes a 

954
00:48:04,408 --> 00:48:07,600
game. 
This All Leads up to, you know, 

955
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:12,000
Trace Jackson Davis is most 
likely going to leave the leaf. 

956
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,200
Leave, Indiana at the end of 
this year, right now. 

957
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,400
He's not Even projected as a 
second-round pick in the NBA 

958
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,000
draft. 
Now, as I would tell my dad 

959
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,200
again is 92, you know, it's like
he's like, well, who cares? 

960
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,500
You heard? 
It went IPO, your pure to play 

961
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:26,900
the Big Ten went, I was like, 
okay. 

962
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,100
Yes, but if I'm a young 
up-and-coming player, like 

963
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:32,400
players getting drafted from my 
school, really mad. 

964
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,400
Like, Calipari would always say 
this the biggest day of the 

965
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,500
year, is the NBA draft and we're
not. 

966
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,600
You India is not, we're not 
Kentucky, but I've just been 

967
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,000
saying for a while. 
I think it's not a great thing. 

968
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,400
If you have a talent like 
Jackson Davis, who is that good?

969
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,300
And you can't get him drafted in
the NBA. 

970
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:52,900
I think that's it's not good. 
Like I'm not saying it's like 

971
00:48:52,908 --> 00:48:54,200
the end of the world. 
It's not the end of the 

972
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,200
Woodson's doing great like but I
just think like that's not a 

973
00:48:57,207 --> 00:48:59,200
good thing. 
I feel like there needs, we 

974
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,400
should be focusing more as 
Indiana to get that done. 

975
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,400
I'm just curious your thoughts 
on this and somebody kind of 

976
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,000
from the outside seeing that or 
is it just hey, man, this is a 

977
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,700
kid who's really good at these 
things, but this is just not 

978
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:13,100
what the NBA wants, which I get.
But I don't know. 

979
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,500
I felt for a while, you've got 
to do. 

980
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,100
Things to get him. 
Drafted, because if I'm a young 

981
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,700
up-and-coming post player, it's 
like, well shit, man, there's no

982
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,000
way I'm going to be as good as 
Jack. 

983
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,700
The best you can do is be 
Jackson Davis in the post and if

984
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:28,000
Indiana can get him, drafted, 
why would I go? 

985
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600
There would be my counter. 
Yeah. 

986
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,300
I think that's a, that's a 
decent point. 

987
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:37,400
I to me, it's just one of those 
things where it's like, well, I 

988
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,300
mean, can he shoot? 
You know, I've I ask that 

989
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:44,200
because he attempted tempted, 
what? 

990
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,700
Two three-pointers. 
As I'm looking at his numbers 

991
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:48,600
right here, two three-pointers 
is entire career. 

992
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,600
So, and they both got the 
objects here. 

993
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,500
He hasn't, he hasn't he's only 
taken to. 

994
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

995
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,500
So I mean, I don't know. 
I haven't watched him a ton of 

996
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:59,700
warm-ups or, you know, heard any
practice about how he shoots 

997
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:02,100
threes. 
But yeah, I mean, you'd like to 

998
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,600
see it. 
I think, an example, you look at

999
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,900
two guys in recent, Big, Ten 
history who really were nothing 

1000
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,900
from outside the arc and 
actually started developing 

1001
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:17,100
their agent, pain for Michigan 
State, a couple of Back never 

1002
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,800
became an elite three-point 
shooter, but you know what? 

1003
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,000
He had that wind up three. 
Where if he was left completely 

1004
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,100
wide open he'd bang it and he 
ended up being a decent draft 

1005
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:29,700
pick. 
I don't know if Jackson Davis 

1006
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:32,300
could ever be drafted that high 
because I think pain was was 

1007
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:36,500
significantly bigger off the top
of my head, but I think you're 

1008
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:39,100
seeing some of it with Hunter 
Dickinson to this year for 

1009
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:42,700
Michigan, where he's attempting 
threes, and he's hitting some 

1010
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:44,300
Accenture. 
Indiana fans. 

1011
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:49,300
Remember, Emma? 
A week ago or so so I agree. 

1012
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:52,900
I think that's something that 
you know Woodson and the staff 

1013
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:56,400
probably want to look at going 
forward to a certain extent. 

1014
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,500
I think they inherited a 
inherited. 

1015
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,500
Yeah, with with Jackson Davis, 
but to me, this is a almost a 

1016
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:08,000
broader issue of y. 
N IL is necessary. 

1017
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,000
And why guys like Jackson Davis 
should be able to cash in now at

1018
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,400
Indiana because the Dude is a 
bona fide star. 

1019
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,700
For the Hoosiers. 
He's an outstanding basketball 

1020
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,300
player. 
He's going to be an All-American

1021
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,800
consideration at season's end 
and he should be able to make 

1022
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,800
some money now where he's 
getting a ton of attention and 

1023
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,500
I'm sure he's got some stuff 
going on on that front, but it's

1024
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:33,200
nice at least he's going to get 
something here. 

1025
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,900
Where as you mention. 
I don't I don't think he's gonna

1026
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:39,300
get drafted. 
Maybe he figures out a way or 

1027
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,700
does something in the tournament
to justify it, but I'm, I agree 

1028
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,400
that I don't think he's gonna 
get drafted. 

1029
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:48,500
Which is unfortunate, it's wild.
And you think about, you know, 

1030
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,100
last year, Luke Garcia is like 
the best player of the Big Ten 

1031
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:53,500
and barely got drafted, but it's
it again. 

1032
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:56,000
It's nothing. 
I mean Garza's fantastic. 

1033
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,700
He's he was a great player, but 
it's like, just not the things. 

1034
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:02,600
This is probably another podcast
another time, but it's like the 

1035
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,800
the way that we're playing is 
not commensurate with the way 

1036
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,900
the MBA is played. 
And that could be something you 

1037
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:11,500
disagree with and maybe you 
don't like and you hate the NBA.

1038
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:15,400
But in the end it's like we live
in a world where the NBA exist. 

1039
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,800
MBA plays a certain way and you 
know, this is why, you know, got

1040
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,000
guys want to get to the NBA like
just to be like, well they'll at

1041
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,200
that sucks. 
And that's not the way we play. 

1042
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,100
It's like, okay, great. 
You're going to fall behind like

1043
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,700
I do think it is something the 
Big Ten needs to think about is 

1044
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:32,500
like two or three years in a 
row. 

1045
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,800
If your best one of your best 
players or your top player year 

1046
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,100
and year out is not even getting
a first round draft pick in the 

1047
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,700
NBA like something isn't right 
there. 

1048
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,500
You know. 
Mmm, Yeah. 

1049
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:45,400
No, I mean, I think I think 
that's a good point. 

1050
00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:49,600
Point and maybe to round it back
to you know, something I said 

1051
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,200
earlier. 
I think you could argue maybe 

1052
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,700
that's a factor in why the Big 
Ten isn't breaking through with 

1053
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,100
with national titles. 
Yeah. 

1054
00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:59,900
So well Thomas dude, it has been
it's been a pleasure. 

1055
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,100
This is fun. 
I'd love to do it like in a 

1056
00:53:02,107 --> 00:53:04,500
couple of weeks as we get closer
to the Big Ten tournament and we

1057
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,100
can start kind of putting those 
pieces together as I've, you 

1058
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:11,000
follow the big tent, you can let
our listeners know, I joke about

1059
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,300
it all the time. 
My understanding is, I mean, 

1060
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:17,300
we're Indiana fans, it says wild
to say But they play Big Ten 

1061
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:19,600
tournament games on Friday 
Saturday and Sunday, right? 

1062
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,500
Like I'm not aware of these 
games like I hear about it. 

1063
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,400
I've heard rumors this happens, 
but it does happen, right? 

1064
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,200
So there's, they do happen. 
Yeah, a lot of fun. 

1065
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,400
It's not just the game against 
Rutgers on Thursday that we lose

1066
00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:37,700
and then it's over it is it's 
wild. 

1067
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:41,100
I bet a lot of Big Ten fans 
would not be able to fully grasp

1068
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,400
it. 
Like for as you know, blue blood

1069
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,200
is Indiana. 
Feels like we are that, you 

1070
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,800
know, Ten tournaments been 
around what like 24 years now, 

1071
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,600
we've made the finals. 
Once once it's quite an 

1072
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,200
accomplishment in a certain way,
a certain way to consider an 

1073
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,600
accomplishment and be a 
last-place Illinois, team once 

1074
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:08,200
made the finals. 
Well, maybe maybe maybe, who 

1075
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,400
knows, maybe it's it'll be in 
Indianapolis. 

1076
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,500
So that's going to be in the, in
the dome, which is wild. 

1077
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,800
Like I don't know why they moved
it from game Bridge or Bankers 

1078
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,500
Life for those of you. 
No change, but to move it to 

1079
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:20,200
Lucas Oil is like, I are they 
going to play in the middle or 

1080
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,600
they going to cut it in half 
like it's going to suck either 

1081
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,200
way because you cut it in half. 
Those are never great venues, 

1082
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,100
but you play the middle, I got 
even worse because you're not 

1083
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:28,600
going to fill it. 
Hmm. 

1084
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Yeah, I'm assuming happening and
I would, I would think so. 

1085
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:37,300
I'm not sure I haven't read 
anything on that front yet. 

1086
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,300
I presume. 
Maybe it's some sort of wow, 

1087
00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:45,900
covid concern. 
I don't know but Who knows? 

1088
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:47,800
Well, we'll see. 
It'll be fun regardless. 

1089
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,900
No, I totally agree. 
We'll, definitely check out. 

1090
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:53,700
Thomas has stuff on Big, Ten 
Powerhouse. 

1091
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,000
BT Powerhouse.com Thomas. 
It has been awesome. 

1092
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Look to have you back as we get 
ready for the Big Ten 

1093
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,300
Tournament. 
Thank you so much for joining 

1094
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:02,200
us. 
Excellent. 

1095
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,900
Thanks for having me guys, 
having too good of a 

1096
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:06,700
conversation. 
There were Thomas to drop this 

1097
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:08,200
in. 
So apologized, it real quick. 

1098
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,800
Just make sure you check out our
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1099
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He's got his huge March Madness 

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1107
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1108
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,500
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1109
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1110
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:41,900
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