1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:10,040 Perfect. All right, You're listening to 2 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,000 the Back Home Network presented by Home Field Apparel. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,520 All right, folks, welcome back to Crimson Cast Scott here with 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,400 you. I'm excited to get to our guest, 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Connor. We'll get to him in one second. 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,280 We're going to be quick because he's got a shorter timeline 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,000 today and I like to talk, but I definitely want to give a shout 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,920 out to our friends over at home Field Apparel. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,880 They have all the best everything you want to wear. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,240 They got the bomber jackets that came out with just a a new like 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,120 kind of just prize pack that you get like a jacket, you get a 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,680 sweatshirt. 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I I was wondering if that would 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,640 come up because we were I I don't want to be the the I told 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,080 you so guy here, but I mean it was it was really you being 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,600 optimistic too. Didn't didn't we throw around a 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,000 nine and 110 and O scenario into this week? 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Can we talked in August. That was, that was always that 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,240 we joke about. It's my fever dream on the 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,600 podcast. Like I, you know, we, I, I 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,400 predicted eight wins and I saw a path like I was like, it could 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,560 be 10 and O, but it's just, you know, from where we've come from 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,320 and just being an IU fan for many years, that that just 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,400 seemed like lightning was going to strike me if I said that too 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,520 loudly. I, I, I'm totally with you. 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,600 There have been so many moments this year just just traveling 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,920 around. I'm doing games where people 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,760 want to talk Indiana football in places where you wouldn't expect 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,720 it. You know, I've, I've had a 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,479 chance to jump around in the Big 12 a little bit on top of the 41 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:11,400 Big 10 stuff this year. And you know, I'm, I'm in, in 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Boulder, Co or Tucson, AZ and people just can't stop talking 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,960 about Indiana football. And it's it's not just in the 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Big 10 cities, which I think is is really, really cool and a 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,080 long list of surreal moments for people like yourself, I'm sure 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,920 where where you get to talk about your football team. 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,600 Oh, it's been a while, but you know, being favored for these 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,080 games, having back-to-back weeks of big noon Sunday and game day 49 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,800 just coming in and then there's talk of like, ah, maybe big noon 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,360 Sunday will come back for the Michigan game. 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,960 It's like the fact that it's coming twice as wild. 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Let's start with this. You know, we're we're taping 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,280 this right before the Ohio State game last weekend. 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,680 Indiana still able to make news on an off week. 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,560 They extend signetti, which I think is obviously the right 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,280 thing to do. I'm just curious your thoughts 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,120 on the extension. But more importantly, do you do 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,840 you think from what you've seen and what you've heard around, 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 you know, around the league, do you think this is something 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,240 sustainable or just going to be one of those? 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,720 We look back and it's like, oh man, they they jumped on that 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,120 too early. I mean, everything that Coach 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Signetti has said so far has been true, right? 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:25,400 No matter no matter how unexpected or outlandish it 65 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,960 seemed at the time, whether it was his comments right after he 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,240 got hired saying I'm going to be right back here in Indianapolis 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,920 leading our team here next year. You're one, you're one win away 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 from that as we look into this weekend. 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,440 I appreciate that. I appreciate you giving no 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,400 credence to Purdue. Also, like as an IU fan, I 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,520 appreciate you just saying that that one win and like Purdue is 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,480 kind of a given. I I. 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's not a 74 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,800 give. I I didn't mean to frame it that 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,000 way, but. I know you're a Big 10 guy, 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,520 everyone commit every game but. Highly unlikely, right? 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,400 And yeah, you know, tiebreaker scenarios. 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Ohio State's game against Michigan, should they win it, 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Yes, but. But that's not a given either. 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,400 So it it could get really crazy the final two weeks. 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,920 But I I'm fairly confident that you win this week. 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,519 You're going to the Big 10 championship game if you're 83 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:20,480 Indiana. Yeah. 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 I would agree, but but do I think it's sustainable? 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,560 Yeah. I I, I really do. 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,400 And, and what I wondered my first reaction to the news, the 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,680 extension was, OK, this deal gets done now the, the money 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,880 sign is big with $8 million. Will this deal have to be 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,560 renegotiated in a couple of weeks if certain things happen 90 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,440 That that was my first reaction was you, you, you do this at 10 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,440 and O do you have to do it again? 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,200 If an Ohio State win happens, then a Purdue win happens, and 93 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,160 then say an Oregon win happens. I love where your head's at. 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,960 I don't, I don't think that's out of the question. 95 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,560 And I'm not saying all those things will happen, but the the 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,000 scenario is there of it. It might not be the the last 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,120 contract talk for Kurt Signetti in in the next month or so. 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,720 No, it's true. I mean, he he would have 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,200 unbelievable leverage. And then you go into the college 100 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,280 Bowl playoff. It's like, all right, if that 101 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,760 happens there, do you keep, you know, increasing the number? 102 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,560 I mean, I, I said this before on our our kind of reaction pod. 103 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,240 I, I, I, I think everything is sustainable based on what I'm 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,360 seeing also. But even if it's not, I think 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,960 this is a good contract because it gets Indiana back in the 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,640 phylum where it needs to be of paying coaches and assistants a 107 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 level that is commensurate with where they want to be. 108 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,720 And so I, I think it's going to work out. 109 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,360 But either way, like you needed someone to drag you across the 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,960 four to $8 million line a year. And this is no better person to 111 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,480 do it than Singh Daddy. Sure, sure. 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,200 Yeah. And, and I think the, you know, 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,440 just in the, the context of the big 10, you, you fear, you know, 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 some of the contracts that have have gone out from some other 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,520 schools in the league. And, and I'm turning out the 116 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,400 same way without, without naming names, I think this is a 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,280 different deal. I I really do. 118 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 But I love that, he said. You know, I'm, I'm in a budding 119 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,120 superpower. Why would I go anywhere? 120 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,480 I know it's it's the the the amount of hubris, but then the 121 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,320 ability to back it up is is unbelievable. 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,720 I'm curious. So you're you're going all over 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,760 the place. You said you're talking to 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,360 people and it's kind of like I use the the the topic people 125 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,920 want to talk about. You know, what are you hearing 126 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,160 about this? That because again, you know, 127 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,240 we're we're I'm very in intimate. 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,680 This is an Indiana podcast like this is my team. 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,800 I look at this and you know, I want to get your thoughts on 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,440 this. I I view it as very much like 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,800 this seems I really can't think of an analogy of where this has 132 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,600 happened somewhere else. You've seen schools like 133 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,720 Wisconsin or Kansas State that have not been, I mean we're 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,800 talking Wisconsin pre Barry Alvarez like that. 135 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:03,000 We're not traditionally football powers and slowly build their 136 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,120 way up, but it's a two or three-year process. 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,000 You even see the sometimes in basketball, like what Nate Oates 138 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,280 is doing in Alabama where he takes a program that's kind of 139 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,000 just dead in the water and then turns it into something. 140 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,320 But it doesn't happen in one year. 141 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Like it just doesn't happen in one year. 142 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,960 And especially not in football. Football while things are 143 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,120 changing and I know it's a new world out there, you still look 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,520 at the top 25. It's still the majority of the 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,200 blue blood powers. I'm just curious if you know, 146 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,200 you're hearing people talk about just how unusual this is, if 147 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,120 they're able to parse, is it literally just signeti? 148 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Is this just unbelievable flash in the pan? 149 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Like what what you're hearing with that and if there's any 150 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,080 explanation outside of just the guy's a hell of a coach and has 151 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,280 a lot of diamonds in the rough that was able to make this 152 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,240 happen. Yeah, I mean, I, I think the 153 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,680 swings are greater. Like that's a conversation I've 154 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,280 had a lot throughout the season. It's just, you know, being at 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Washington this past week, I, I had their Friday night game 156 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,480 against UCLA and that was a big topic of conversation with Jed 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Fish is just that, you know, he, he's got to be one of the only 158 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,280 people that's ever taken over an O and 12 program like you did at 159 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Arizona and then taken over a 12 and O program like you did at 160 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,720 Washington. And in just the, the, the, the 161 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,320 mood swings and the, the ability to, you know, like Kurt Signetti 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,080 has done bringing a new roster right away. 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,800 You know, I, I don't know if I'm adding anything new to that 164 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,720 conversation. I think a lot of your fans 165 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,640 understand that, but that's that's what's kind of cool and 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,240 also unfortunate. And in some ways, like in 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Washington's case where they lost basically their entire 168 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,240 team, only three starters came back and they go from, you know, 169 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,640 national championship game to to six and five, which I think is 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,200 still a big accomplishment for all that they lost. 171 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,440 But but I I think that's just kind of where we're at. 172 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:02,880 And it it leads to, you know, a lesser known brand in the 173 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,160 football space like Indiana being able to do this. 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,960 But yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's been 175 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,480 talked about a ton. This is just kind of what Kurt 176 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,440 Signetti has done, right? Yeah, I don't. 177 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,440 Think it's, I don't think it's been it's, it hasn't been in the 178 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,280 mainstream, but but now it is. And there's no secret about it, 179 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,480 Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm assuming this is 180 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,040 the case like for for the big 10 network of which you you work. 181 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,320 So I'll ask this kind of gingerly. 182 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,200 You you got, I mean, there's always the thought like in the 183 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,320 NBA, it's like, oh, they want to have the Lakers and the Celtics. 184 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,640 They want to have their brands in there. 185 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,600 And like, it's always kind of a wink, wink, like, all right, 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Like when the Pacers were playing this the Knicks this 187 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,040 last year in the playoffs, like, man, they got to beat the rest 188 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,000 too because the the NBA wants the Knicks in the Eastern 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Conference finals. Whether it's true or not. 190 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,200 Is this something where, you know, the is the Big 10 overall 191 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,080 like happy with something like this as a media piece? 192 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Or is it like, we just rather continue to have Ohio State, 193 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Penn State year over year? Is do you think there's like 194 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,160 actual excitement of like, hey, we we're excited to the idea of 195 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,640 like a budding superpower, as insane as that sounds, We'll 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,320 come to that in our preview next year. 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,840 But it it is this something that, you know, as a Big 10 198 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,200 network from the media perspective, it's like this is 199 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,600 this is good because it's more storylines or would they rather 200 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 just continue to have, you know, the same blue bloods going at it 201 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,120 year in, year out? Yeah, obviously not a, this is 202 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,760 not a reflection of anything internal with the conference, 203 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,840 you know, because I'm not in those meetings. 204 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,280 But personally, I I think it's a really good thing just from 205 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,120 telling the story of the league. You know, you have the 206 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,440 traditional powers of Ohio State and Penn State that are in 207 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,920 playoff contention, are in the top five as of this past week's 208 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,160 College Football Playoff rankings and should be again 209 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,320 this week. You know, having 4/4 of the five 210 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,280 top 4/4 of the top five teams is a really good thing. 211 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,800 But the variety of those teams, you have one of the new members, 212 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,200 Oregon, you have two of the traditional powers in the 213 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,760 league, Penn State and Ohio State. 214 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 And then you have this budding story of Indiana. 215 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,320 I think it's it's something that me as a member of the media, I 216 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,600 mean, I'm, I'm eating it up getting to cover the league 217 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,480 because you have you have kind of three or four different 218 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,120 stories of these teams and how they got to this place with the 219 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,800 recent history. We're we're we're our next game 220 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,480 is Ohio State that there's two ways to look at this. 221 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,960 I'm curious how you would frame it because for me, I've been 222 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,120 saying for a while, like I'm, I'm slightly annoyed that it 223 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,200 does feel like the perception is, you know, Indiana's played a 224 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,600 soft schedule, which I have my thoughts on that. 225 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,880 But whatever it's it's, you know, for the most part we've 226 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 had we haven't played, you know, the top five teams in the 227 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,920 country. That's fine, But it does feel a 228 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,880 little bit unfair to be like, all right, well, this is our 229 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,280 test to see if we're good, if we can keep up with Ohio State. 230 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,080 It's like we won three games last year, we've won nine games 231 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,920 over the last three years. Like how the hell is it our bar 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,960 to go to Columbus and keep up with Ohio State? 233 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,440 Like they've had year over? That's Penn State's job, that's 234 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,200 Michigan, that's not our job, that's not our bar to cross. 235 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,600 Like why is that our Rubicon that we got to go over? 236 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,280 On the flip side, I do also understand the argument if they 237 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,200 go in there and just if we get boat raced, there is a world 238 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,720 where it's like, well, this is you're trying to make the 239 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 College Football Playoff. Like this is the big boys and 240 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,440 the big boys can't go and lay a complete dud on the road in 241 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Columbus. So I I see both sides, but I 242 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,560 come into it a little bit defensive. 243 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:31,680 Like how on earth do do we have to compete and or beat Ohio 244 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,640 State to to somehow legitimize what we've done this year? 245 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,480 It's it's got to be confusing as a fan, right, Right. 246 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Like that's that's kind of what you're getting at is you're, I 247 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,400 mean, you're not used to this. No, you're not. 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:52,000 But but the reality is, I mean, I mean, first go win the game 249 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,200 and you're in the playoff and. I mean, go win the game. 250 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,040 We've, I hate to say that cuz I mean, we just, we don't go into 251 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Ohio State when it's not something we've ever done. 252 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,280 You win that game, You're not just in the playoff. 253 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,640 You, I think you have a real conversation to be like, we're 254 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,800 the number one team in the country. 255 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Cuz two teams have a win over Ohio State at that point, Oregon 256 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,920 and us and ours is on the road. I would say we're the number one 257 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,320 team in the country. But anyway, go ahead. 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,960 I can't, I can't go that far down the rabbit hole of of 259 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,080 happiness, I don't think. Yes, yeah, I, I just had this 260 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,680 top of mind. By the way, I'm, I'm actually 261 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,640 covering the Indiana basketball game on Thursday. 262 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,920 So I have Indiana football and basketball crossover in my mind. 263 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,320 But 1987, last time that Indiana beat Ohio State in football, 264 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:39,280 yes, Mike Woodson was in the NBA as a player. 265 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,240 So I mean, like you said it, it just doesn't happen. 266 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,760 I think it's, what is it, 29 in a row that that the Buckeyes 267 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,560 have won against Indiana. And I think I I should pull. 268 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,720 I think it's like 68 was the last time we won in Columbus, 269 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,600 and it's been quite a while because 87 was a memorial state 270 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,560 also the last time IU won a national championship in 271 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,320 basketball. So you have a lot of a lot of 272 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,440 connections there. But yeah. 273 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Yeah, I, I think I want to say it was Earl. 274 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Bruce was the head coach at Ohio State at that time. 275 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 He said it was the darkest day that he's been a part of. 276 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,080 But Ryan Day might get fired if they lose the Indiana and then 277 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,760 they go to lose the Michigan. Like he will get fired. 278 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,640 That'll be it. Yeah, I but, but they if they if 279 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,640 they lose, yeah, if they, if they lose this game, I don't 280 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,440 think they're they're out. But if they if they did lose 281 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,160 this game and the next game, then then yeah. 282 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,920 It'd get really hot. It'd get hot on the sea. 283 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Anyway you would, yes. How, how do you how do you frame 284 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,880 this game for Indiana going into it? 285 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:44,000 You know, I the, the biggest comparison piece for me is what 286 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Ohio State did against Penn State, right? 287 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:52,160 So you look at that game, I think Curtis Rourke will take 288 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,880 more chances than Drew Aller did the Penn State quarterback. 289 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,360 And you also look at Ohio State's game against Oregon and 290 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,280 kind of try to piece it together with matchups and, and I think 291 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,400 Elijah Sarat and Omar Cooper can beat you in the deep passing 292 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,160 game more than anyone Penn State has. 293 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,520 And when you look at that parallel to the Oregon game, Tez 294 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Johnson and Evan Stewart had a great night for Oregon. 295 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,720 I mean, those guys combined for over 200 yards against Ohio 296 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,040 State secondary. Stewart was especially good. 297 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,400 And it might have been a third guy, Tray, Sean Holden, We'll 298 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,080 never know because he got ejected for spitting. 299 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,760 But I'm really interested to see that match up. 300 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,600 I think if Indiana can can make will Howard a thrower, you got a 301 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,600 really good chance. I thought Howard did a really 302 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,680 good job against Penn State. The number, the number wasn't 303 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,080 big, but he unlocked some things with the quarterback run. 304 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,960 And again, that the net number wasn't huge as far as his 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,320 rushing yards because of sacks, but some some timely runs in 306 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,160 that game. So I think if you can make him 307 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,640 one-dimensional, you you can load up a little bit more on the 308 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,200 running backs for Ohio State and, and you, you got a really 309 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 good shot to stay in this game and have a chance at the end. 310 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Yeah, I mean, it is funny. I saw Ohio State send out some 311 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,120 some funny things about like they they had a funny tweet or 312 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,920 the Instagram post about like they they showed the stadium at 313 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,440 night with the lights on, like, hey, we we can do this too. 314 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,040 I think they're getting tired of noon games, which does vague 315 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,120 like this seems like this would be a great night time NBC game. 316 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,800 It I'm, I'm curious why it's at noon because I think, you know, 317 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,680 you guys bid on the game like they they get together every 318 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,720 week and kind of bid on it. That's where the time come from. 319 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,440 I guess it's just because you have USC and UCLA and that has 320 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 to be a night slot and maybe that's going to kind of muck 321 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,600 things up. But it does feel like this could 322 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,640 have been, you know, the the CBS game. 323 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,280 I don't know. It's just, it's an odd noon 324 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,480 game, but it is on Fox, which is, you know, one of the major 325 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,680 partners of the Big 10. Yeah, yeah. 326 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,240 The, the, the big news slide will be Gus, Gus, Joel and Jenny 327 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,160 and I, I think it's going to feel big. 328 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:10,920 I, I really do. And if if we were looking at the 329 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,560 schedule, like if we could go back when you and I had our 330 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,960 conversation in August and pick out the biggest game of this 331 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,000 week in college football, I, I think we would have probably bet 332 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:27,680 on Alabama, Oklahoma, yeah, maybe Texas, Auburn. 333 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,480 Wisconsin, northern Nebraska or USUCLA could have been like the 334 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,880 biggest game in the Big 10. Yeah. 335 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Right, right, or even in the Big 12, maybe like Iowa State, Utah, 336 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,480 but this this is the one, this is the one. 337 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,680 And I think I, I think our crew at Fox is going to put on a 338 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,840 really good show and I think the the game will, will kind of 339 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,760 match what, what is a top five match up? 340 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,880 I, I, I really, really can't wait. 341 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,320 I, I have I have a Friday night game. 342 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,960 I'm actually doubling up and have a Saturday game, but not 343 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,520 till till 7:00 Eastern Time. So I get to kind of kick back, 344 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,720 get it kind of get to kick back and and just enjoy this one as 345 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,320 as a college football fan. So it's I got. 346 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,920 To ask you like as a broadcaster, if you're if you're 347 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,000 doing this game, like if you're Gus Johnson, do you do you load 348 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 up a couple of like, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to have 349 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,840 a if Indiana wins line, like do do you load some things in your 350 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,440 head ready to go? So you're like Indiana, do you 351 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,760 do you load stuff up? Because I felt like when, when 352 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,440 we beat Nebraska and he was on the call, he had a couple of 353 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,440 those. Like they one was like, you 354 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,440 know, he said, they said they haven't played anybody. 355 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Well, they're playing someone today or something like, so do 356 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,000 do you load stuff into your head like that? 357 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,880 Like for both ways. I mean, you, you have, you have 358 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,480 thoughts going in with him obviously of, you know, here's a 359 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,920 theme, here's a theme, you know, here's kind of what's being said 360 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,160 externally and internally about Indiana and Ohio State. 361 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,280 But I'm, this is just my personal preference. 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,680 I don't, I don't really like to script much even even like our, 363 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,520 our opens, like our two minutes where we come on camera to start 364 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,680 the game. I have bullet points and stuff 365 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,040 to kind of set the scene, but I don't know, I I feel like it's 366 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,920 just more natural and I'm one with the game. 367 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,960 Yeah, you, you the fan. If if I'm just kind of reacting. 368 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,360 So I don't know that's that's a really good question. 369 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:25,520 Like if you were to sit me in the seat right now and say 370 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:32,920 Indiana wins in overtime on Curtis Rourke, run to the pylon 371 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,760 where he reaches and happens to touch the pylon. 372 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Oh. That's got to be a Penix 373 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,160 throwback, yeah. You, you got, you got what I was 374 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,840 getting at like like if something like that happens, of 375 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,400 course you got to you got to reference the Penix play from a 376 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,080 couple years ago, but that would be. 377 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,760 I mean, I got it. I hope it happens. 378 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,480 I hope, I hope we look back on this podcast in like 140 hours 379 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,400 and be like, Oh my God, Connor, you called it. 380 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 That would be, I mean that that's the thing, the thing that 381 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:05,080 I do love about Signeti is, and I've, I've wondered this before 382 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,080 and I forget his name, there's the, the high school coach in 383 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,240 Oklahoma who just doesn't punt. Like he's goes for it on 4th. 384 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,040 All this is, this is like 12 years old now, but he won like 3 385 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,120 or 4 state titles in a row. And I, I'm also a basketball 386 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:20,560 fan. I, I think basketball has become 387 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,800 very progressive and like, hey, let's just try a bunch of new 388 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,960 ideas. What if we shoot a bunch of 389 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,920 threes? Like let's just go to the 390 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,880 corners, like in a fast break, let's give up, not do the layup 391 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,080 and shoot for a three. It it does feel like football 392 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,840 has never had that as kind of a mentality. 393 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,800 It's always very, hey, you punt 4th and 1:00. 394 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,600 You got to punt, you got to give up the ball like a minute to go 395 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,040 in the the end of the second-half. 396 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,960 Like, yeah, we're just going to go to go to halftime and you 397 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,520 don't want to risk it. It it does. 398 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,160 I really enjoy what Signeti does where he just he's always going 399 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,440 for it. Like he's going to go for it on 400 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,160 4th. He go for it goes around 4th and 401 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,000 like 4th and seven on his own 32. 402 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,960 You know, to your point, if it's an overtime game and we have the 403 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,440 ball first, I think there's a world where, I mean, I think no 404 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,960 matter when we get the ball, I think we're going for 2:00 on 405 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,000 that first try. It's and I, I love that 406 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,080 aggressiveness and I think it always, I think it does help us 407 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,960 to put the other team on their heels. 408 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 And I think it helps our defense because the other team's offense 409 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,480 is always struggling because they're like, we got to score 410 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 every single time because Indiana is just going to keep 411 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,600 pushing and keep going for it all the time. 412 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Yeah, yeah, it's, it's an interesting parallel, right, 413 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,040 'cause the Detroit Lions have become known for that with Dan 414 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,720 Campbell the past couple years and they have a similar story to 415 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,520 tell that Indiana does. So it's, it's interesting to 416 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,920 see, you know, franchise that hasn't won in a while, Indiana 417 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,080 hasn't won in a while. You have these aggressive head 418 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:46,240 coaches and and I think the the challenge, I don't know if I'm 419 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,240 sure Kurt Signetti wouldn't say it this way, but I I think the 420 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,840 challenge will be say you win this game, how long can you kind 421 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,920 of keep that house money mentality of we haven't been 422 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,280 here before. Let's keep being the team that 423 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,560 goes for it. 4th and two and minus territory. 424 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Yeah, and, and I I would expect that to continue because Kurt 425 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Zignetti is is shown that he's willing to do that over and over 426 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,240 again. But I think it also helps that, 427 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,240 you know, you've you've got the best run defense in the Big 10. 428 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Yeah. So you can you know, there's 429 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,880 there's also the strategy of that. 430 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600 It's not just a pay house money thing. 431 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,280 It's we can trust those guys to go stop the run. 432 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,160 So. One of the things of Signetti 433 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,080 that I've, I've been really impressed with is, you know, 434 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,920 throughout this year, you hear Urban Meyer on the Big Noon 435 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,200 Sunday show or Saturday show, like just glowing, talking about 436 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,560 like, I love watching film on this guy. 437 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,800 Like, I love what he's doing. Obviously Saban has a lot of 438 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,880 nice things to say about him. He was on Saban's staff. 439 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,200 So I I would kind of expect that. 440 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,960 But still, Saban also isn't like the Super, you know, kissing 441 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,160 coach's ass kind of guy. Like Saban keeps it close to the 442 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,880 vest. I'm I'm curious, are you 443 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,200 obviously when you're going into other games, you know, you're, 444 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,080 you're talking to coaches, you're not like, hey, let's talk 445 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,760 about signetti. When you're doing like a 446 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,920 Washington game, you're not doing that. 447 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,080 But have you heard any of that just in your circles pop up of, 448 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:13,720 you know, when teams have watched Indiana on tape and what 449 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,880 coaches are saying? Because to me, that's the part 450 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,760 that makes me the the happiest and makes me feel like it's the 451 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,600 most replicatable is this isn't just, you know, we've got a 452 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,120 couple good breaks or things are going good on vibes or we have 453 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,440 things kind of rolling. There's a lot of coaches out 454 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,360 there that I respect as good coaches who continually say, 455 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,400 man, when I watch tape, this team is is something different. 456 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720 I'm curious you've heard the same thing in your circles. 457 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Yeah, yeah. I mean, side conversations and 458 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,520 some of our meetings when we've covered the Big 10 this year of 459 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,480 a lot of comments of these guys are real. 460 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,240 You know, we we usually get time with head coach, offensive 461 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,040 coordinator, defensive coordinator and as as the the 462 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 bigger wins have started to stack up for Indiana, there's 463 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,080 there's there's been more of that in our meetings. 464 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Not nothing crazy, I would say because you know how coaches 465 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,400 right in in tunnel vision. But like when there's there's 466 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,560 been some crossover film, it's definitely come up of, you know, 467 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,440 hey, this isn't just some nice cute story like they are are 468 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,800 substantively impressive. And it's it's not just winning 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,560 the PR game with Indiana. It's you know, you you don't 470 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,400 just randomly hold Michigan State to 30 negative 36 yards 471 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,240 rushing like that. That doesn't just, yeah, that 472 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,120 doesn't just randomly happened with doing a couple of good 473 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:42,480 interviews and beating up on teams you should beat non 474 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,160 conference. Like there's there's substance 475 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,560 and legitimacy to what we're seeing. 476 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,760 I'll get you out of here on this. 477 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,280 I'm curious what I don't know how to ask this the right way. 478 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,200 Like I, I've been saying this for a while, but I think maybe 479 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,400 the question is like, you know what, at what point total does 480 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Indiana really put themselves in trouble with the College 481 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,360 Football Playoff? Like, I think they can lose at 482 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,240 Ohio State, beat Purdue and they're in the College Football 483 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,200 Playoff no matter what. But I think there does come a 484 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,920 point like if they lose, you know, 56 to nothing at Ohio 485 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,240 State, I think it gets a little bit more perilous. 486 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,720 But I, I still look at it as you know, and I, I, I will say these 487 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,800 things so you don't have to, but like, it is a business, you 488 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,160 know, this is run by the Big 10 in the SEC. 489 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,840 And so if the, if Indiana doesn't get in, there's not 490 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840 another Big 10 school that's going to get in. 491 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,160 And it's not like the Big 10 of the SEC is super excited about 492 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600 bringing other conferences. Like they want to stack this 493 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800 playoff with as many teams as they can from their conference. 494 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,480 It's also a conference football committee that's led by a 495 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,680 Michigan AD. So it's like there is politics 496 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,680 at play here where if Indiana does get in, you're talking 497 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,080 about like a, you know, is it Georgia? 498 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,360 Is it Tennessee? Like it's another SEC school or 499 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,400 an ACC school. So I and I also just think, you 500 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,640 know, even if the schedule is soft and they played an 501 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,320 underbelly of the Big 10, I, I think you're setting a really, 502 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,080 really interesting president to be like, Hey, A1 loss team in 503 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,840 the big 10 of the SEC that's not good enough to get into our 504 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,120 playoff. But other two or three loss 505 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,960 teams is. I I just, I, I think there's a 506 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,880 lot at play, but I'm just curious asking you like, is 507 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,680 there a way that Indiana loses at Ohio State? 508 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,200 If it's, you know, is there a point total? 509 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,840 Is there a an eye test that it's so bad it would invalidate them, 510 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800 even though everything I laid out there makes me feel like I 511 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,040 think they're getting in either way? 512 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,640 Yeah, I don't know if a number necessarily. 513 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,800 I mean it, it can't be 56 to nothing like I would and and I 514 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,160 would be shocked if it was 56 to nothing. 515 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,120 The the score will matter. I will say they're there have 516 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,360 been a couple of things nationally that have helped 517 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,680 Indiana's case if they are a one loss team and then and they do 518 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,760 look respectable in this game, which I think they will. 519 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,800 The Big 12 the last couple weeks has helped BYU's loss this past 520 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000 weekend to Kansas. I think that means that the Big 521 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,160 12's probably going to be one team into the playoff. 522 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280 You know, Iowa State had been inside the top ten but lost two 523 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,760 games. So that takes away a potential 524 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800 bid steal. The SEC one is interesting. 525 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,480 I've, I've kind of mapped this out in my head of if you're not 526 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,600 you fan, you're, you're rooting as hard as you can for Texas. 527 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,520 I think because if, if Texas at 9:00 and 1:00, they beat A&M in 528 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,800 their final game, that's three losses for A&M. 529 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,160 They'd probably play another two loss team in the SEC title, give 530 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,440 them a third loss. And then you're, you're looking 531 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,840 at probably 2 SEC teams that you're comparing yourself 532 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,160 against, which will probably be, I would, I would guess Tennessee 533 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,840 or Alabama or, or Ole Miss who's still in that mix. 534 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,400 But, but I, I think if it's close, you, you look at the one 535 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160 loss versus the two loss. And there, there's your tie 536 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,480 break. But obviously it's not as simple 537 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560 as that with what we saw at Florida State last year. 538 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,680 And, and that's the, that's the thing. 539 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,720 If I were an IU fan, that would have me but a little bit nervous 540 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,360 because the committee did that last year and then we got a 541 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,920 great game at the Rose Bowl with Michigan and Alabama, the one 542 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,120 lost team that they let in. And that was kind of proof of 543 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,400 concept of see, we made the right choice. 544 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,600 We got a good game out of the selection we made. 545 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,000 But no. I agree. 546 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,600 And I think for Indiana, what's playing in their favor is, I 547 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,680 mean, if they if they beat Ohio State, this is all moot. 548 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,840 Like they're in that's, that's a huge win. 549 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,760 If they lose to Ohio State, I think what's playing in their 550 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,480 favor is they're kind of boxed out of getting into the Big 10 551 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400 title game, which I think helps them because I've said this for 552 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,880 a while, personal IU fan, it's like if they get in the Big 10 553 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,160 title game with one loss and they lose, they're probably out. 554 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480 Although I think that's BS because I think with a soft 555 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,160 schedule, Penn State could have the exact same profile and they 556 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080 would be in. But that's just my personal 557 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400 opinion on that. But I, I think that it puts them 558 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,960 in a good spot with a one loss. If they were to go to the Big 10 559 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960 title game and play Oregon and lose their I, I think that would 560 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,120 people be like, all right, well, there we go. 561 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,880 They played two teams. They can't win. 562 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 I'm not sure it'll be a valid, but it would be hard to to stop 563 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,520 that. So I, I think this is also 564 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,640 playing in Indiana's favor. But I also, you know, I, I think 565 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,280 I still think Indiana's really good. 566 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,240 I'm not sure they could go through a gauntlet in the 567 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,200 College Football Playoff beating Alabama and Georgia and Ohio 568 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,280 State and Oregon. You know, I know they don't play 569 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,200 that many games. Like they can't play that many. 570 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680 They're going to need some breaking to happen, right? 571 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,640 And I, I think this weekend is huge for them because I do think 572 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080 to get out of that first round, the, the types of teams are 573 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,720 looking to play, whether it's Tennessee or Alabama or Georgia, 574 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,040 those teams that are in that first round, I think Indiana has 575 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,080 a shot if they play them in Bloomington. 576 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960 I don't think they have a shot if they play them on the road. 577 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,240 I think going to Tennessee or Alabama or Georgia would be a 578 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120 bridge too far or that that's just, that's a really tough ask. 579 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,960 And I think that if they lose at Ohio State, how they lose is 580 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,600 going to dictate whether they probably are hosting a game or 581 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,080 not hosting a game, right? Right. 582 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,840 Yeah, yeah. No, that's that's a really good 583 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,080 point because latest projection, right, would be the 710 game in 584 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,480 Bloomington with Alabama. Yeah, and I'm, I'm with you 585 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,560 going to going to an SEC Rd. environment. 586 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,000 It's going to be a big ask. But also, Indiana's done a 587 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,800 million things this year where it's like, oh, they really did 588 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,120 that. That's that's totally fair. 589 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,760 And if they beat Ohio State, it's it's off the table. 590 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,520 Last thing, are you, are you scheduled to do any of those, 591 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,520 those College Football Playoff games? 592 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,480 I'm not. No, no, I'll. 593 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,560 I'll be full on basketball in December. 594 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,040 OK. I, I'll obviously be following 595 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,560 very, very closely. So if if you want to chat during 596 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040 that time I'm I've always got an open line. 597 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,720 OK, yeah, no, if we make the College Football Playoff and we 598 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,560 are hosting a game or we get to the next level, I will we'll 599 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,680 reach out and have you back on because I think and and if I'm 600 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,680 telling you right now, clear your schedule, my friend. 601 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,120 If we win in overtime on any kind of a Curtis work roll out, 602 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,880 I'm having you on Monday morning. 603 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,440 I don't care what your schedule is, even just 5 minutes like 604 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,720 we're having you on and you're going to tell us every week 605 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,400 we're having you on so you can tell us what's going to happen. 606 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Because if that happens, it's like it's this is the Connor 607 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,600 Onion play. We're just you are now the good 608 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,320 luck charm for Crimson cast. I'm in and and by the way, if 609 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,280 Indiana is hosting a home playoff game and and I don't 610 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520 have basketball or something that day, I'm going to do 611 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,360 everything I can to be there because let's go. 612 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,920 As as you know, I did a ton of Hoosier games last year when 613 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,800 when times weren't as good. Yep. 614 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,520 And then I was I was in town actually calling volleyball 615 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920 right before the Washington game. 616 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,720 And just to see the stadium in the area around the stadium 617 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,960 transform just felt and looked like a totally different place 618 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,840 as it has on TV and for some of your fans that have have been 619 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,880 there for sold out crowds. So I I will do everything I can 620 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,160 if there's there's a home playoff game to get down there. 621 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,480 And if there is, you got to come. 622 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,040 We'll get together. We have a couple tailgates. 623 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440 You're you are all invited or you are invited to all of them. 624 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160 It has been one of the coolest things seeing you know, going to 625 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,320 being, you know, growing up in Bloomington start. 626 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000 You went to games in the 80's, the 90s moved away for a couple 627 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,800 years. That season ticket since O 9, 628 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,120 seeing that stadium full for an entire game against, you know, 629 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,320 Washington against Michigan is just unbelievable. 630 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840 And and and and it's full with IU fans because we've had full 631 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,000 games where you know, it's a lot of Ohio State fans or a lot of 632 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,760 Michigan fans. They'll come down just seeing 633 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,080 the excitement and the people and they're there and they're 634 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760 loud. It it's been so awesome. 635 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,480 And as I've said multiple times, you know, it's not like Michigan 636 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,560 is freaked out coming into Memorial Stadium with 55,000 637 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,800 people. Like they play at the Horseshoe, 638 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,120 They've won there. They played a national 639 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,160 championship game last year. Like it's not so much that it's 640 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,680 that I do think that our crowd buoys our team like for for us, 641 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,760 it builds us up. It's not that I think, again, 642 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Alabama coming in is going to be like, Oh my God, they play in 643 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,200 the SEC. This is going to be a small 644 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,600 arena for their small stadium for them. 645 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200 They're not going to be freaked out, but I do think it's 646 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,760 something that that you can see the attachment with the players. 647 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,640 They win games. They immediately run over the 648 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,520 student section. It is it has been my favorite 649 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,040 thing. And it's what I've been telling 650 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,040 people is like, you only get one right up the mountain. 651 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Because in future years it'll be it'll be the expectation or 652 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,120 they'll be something different. Like this is a such a unique 653 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,400 season because you, you, you only get one chance to go up the 654 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,760 mountain and then you're there and then things do change. 655 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,040 Yeah, it's not to compare Indiana football to The Beatles, 656 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:53,640 but but, but, you know, those guys always said like I was the 657 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,760 happiest time of my life was when we were creating and kind 658 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,320 of building what The Beatles were. 659 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,880 And I I think you got a really good point. 660 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,360 You only get one ride up the mountain. 661 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,040 And this is this has been really, really cool to watch. 662 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,280 So and. It could be even cooler on on 663 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,639 Saturday, but we'll we'll hopefully we'll be having maybe 664 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,520 some more highs coming up. Connor, it's been awesome having 665 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,280 you this season. Thanks for giving us your 666 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,880 thoughts thus far. And catch him on the the IU game 667 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,639 on Thursday, right? Yeah, I've got IU basketball on 668 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,600 Thursday and. You and humble. 669 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,480 Yeah, yeah. Me and Robbie Humble. 670 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,360 Let's go, all right, And then at some point we can do a 671 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,199 basketball preview as well, 'cause it looks like maybe we 672 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,040 can shoot, We'll see. Maybe, maybe we can get some 673 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,760 shooting. We'll see. 674 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,520 It's fun team to watch. Well, Connor, I appreciate it. 675 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,480 Catch him on Big 10 on Fox. I want to thank everybody for 676 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,159 listening. And as always for Crimson Cast, 677 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:44,800 this is Scott signing off.