1 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,160 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:49,320 Field Apparel. Welcome back to the Back Home 3 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Network Emergency podcast series. 4 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,840 I feel like we've been doing a lot of these this summer, 5 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 gentlemen, and that's a good thing. 6 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,280 We need as many emergency podcasts as possible, especially 7 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,000 with AIU men's basketball. We could use some klaxons and 8 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,200 and some alarm bells going off all over the place as we find 9 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,280 that IU has now landed their first recruit for the 2026 10 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:21,080 class, Prince Alexander Moody, announcing about three hours ago 11 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,840 that he is committed to Indiana men's basketball. 12 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,840 We're going to talk about it. We've got Mike Wiemuth and Bob 13 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Moats from XS and Joe's. I'm Galen Clavio from Crimson 14 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Cast amongst other shows on the platform. 15 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,000 And we are happy to have you folks joining us here on a 16 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,800 Friday night at 8:40 PM. And guys, this was one of those 17 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,720 that we kind of heard it was one of two commitments that Indiana 18 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,520 could potentially have landed. They were in the final 4/4, but 19 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,720 they land this one and you both have had a chance to to see 20 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Prince Alexander Moody a little bit and and do some scouting on 21 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,920 us. We wanted to get your thoughts 22 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,120 on things. First of all, just quick 23 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 reminder to everybody. 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Prince Alexander Moody's 644 44 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,360 star shooting guard chooses Indiana over a variety of power 45 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,800 conference schools. Michigan State, Georgetown, 46 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State, Mississippi State, among others. 47 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,320 Mike, let me start with you, I guess a little bit. 48 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Give us an overview of who Prince Alexander Moody is, what 49 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 his game is like, so on and so forth. 50 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Sure, yes, the quick and dirty sort of rundown on him. 51 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:38,280 He's a fast rising shooter attacker playing for the number 52 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,560 one AU team in the country right now. 53 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Team Takeover is the number one team ranked in in the EYBL at at 54 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,360 this stage. He also plays with for Bishop 55 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,000 McNamara for high school. And McNamara plays in the 56 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Washington Catholic Athletic Conference, which is, you know, 57 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,760 like one of the most elite conferences in the country, 58 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,240 especially on the East Coast. That's where you see like 59 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,440 DeMatha, Bishop O'Connell, St. Paul, the 6th, Archbishop 60 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Carroll, just like a lot of the the elite, you know, like magnet 61 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,760 schools that you see like in the, the DMV area to describe 62 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,040 him a little bit more specifically. 63 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,040 Yeah, he's a a, he's AI would say his shooting is definitely 64 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,200 the part that's starting to make his stock rise. 65 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,200 If you looked at his stats, let's say like a year or two 66 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,600 ago, he was a shooter in terms of making attempts. 67 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,600 He just was not that great at making them. 68 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,680 You see a lot of his stat lines where he would go like one for 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,360 seven one night and two for 8 the next and maybe occasionally 70 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,480 get like a, you know, a three for six or a four for 8:00. 71 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,720 But he was pretty safely like in the low 30s in terms of his 72 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,600 numbers. Now you've seen lately he's 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,960 definitely starting to rise in terms of his just his 74 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,320 efficiency. I mean, he's still shooting 75 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,480 about like, you know, 7-8 threes a game, but now he's like more 76 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,560 consistently making four or five a game. 77 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,440 And so, and also his three third percentage is also kind of like, 78 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,480 you know, spiked up. I think he's like safely above 79 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 80% now. So like when you're doing 80 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,000 scouting on players in terms of their shooting and how it like 81 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,960 transitions into college, you definitely see a correlation of 82 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,520 those kids that can shoot like 38% and above from three with 83 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 some volume. And also like, you know, safe 84 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,040 80% and above those the kids that you definitely feel pretty 85 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,080 confident you're going to be able to transition to college 86 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,520 and be able to be like pretty efficient shooters from deep. 87 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,160 So that's the shooting part. Good defender. 88 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,520 He's got great length. I've not seen his actual 89 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,480 wingspan. They haven't published that on 90 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:51,240 him yet, but just eyeballing him he looks like he's a decent +45, 91 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,840 at least in terms of his wingspan. 92 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,800 And I also say his handle is definitely, I know they list him 93 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,200 as a point guard. I and Bob and I have kind of 94 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,560 talked about this. I think he's like a natural, 95 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,280 natural point guard. I think he can be, maybe he 96 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,360 develops a little bit better as time goes on. 97 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,640 I think he's definitely like, let's say a backup point guard, 98 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,640 but more like a guy you put off the ball and can do some like 99 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,320 secondary ball handling. But I I definitely see him being 100 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,120 a really effective guy. You you swing the ball to either 101 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,840 takes a quick shot or just, you know, attacks the clothes out. 102 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,800 The kind of guy that you know, Bob and I've been, you know, 103 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,120 begging you to recruit more of over the last, you know, 104 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,960 several. Years Andrew Nemhardt model of 105 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,720 guard. The way the Pacers use them, I'm 106 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,080 guessing. Exactly And and I will I will 107 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,000 make my, you know, one use of my 1 Baylor reference per week 108 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,200 right now. But yes, the Baylor 2021 kind of 109 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,000 guards you saw, he definitely kind of fits into that model, 110 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,560 so. Yeah, Bob, what? 111 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,760 What else We got on on Prince Alexander Moody and this 112 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,440 recruitment. Are you surprised that he ends 113 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,280 up landing here as he was? He was offered by Maryland, 114 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:12,160 which is in his backyard. Illinois was in on him as well. 115 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,000 We mentioned Michigan State and Georgetown. 116 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,960 You know, this is the type of player that IU once recruited 117 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,840 and got and then didn't for a long time and seems to now be 118 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,880 going after in earnest again. And and here's their first 119 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,920 success with it. I think First off, you know, 120 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,960 looking at this from how it fits into an overall picture of 121 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,360 recruiting, we're looking at a kid that was that that's coming 122 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,840 from the East Coast. The DMV. 123 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Again, one of the one of the main hotspots and might be the 124 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,920 first one to tell you kind of, you know, as you kind of go 125 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,240 along and go along along along this corridor, it's that eastern 126 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,960 most part where you want to be very involved and you want to 127 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,360 make sure you're you're, you're, you're, you're there, which is 128 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,480 the code back to the Kenny Johnson kit. 129 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,600 You know, you look at the programs that we're recruiting 130 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,800 him that we were going, that IU was going up against. 131 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,440 That's this is the sort of player that you know, I you, I, 132 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,120 you, I, you has been needing to get and has not really gotten in 133 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,160 the bulk that they needed to over the last over the last 134 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,200 really two decades. Explains why you have certain 135 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,440 like, wait, wait, you have power forwards playing your three 136 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,560 spot, for lack of a better term. Now that you have him, you know, 137 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Prince, Prince Alexander Moody, he fits a, a, a profile that 138 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,200 we're seeing with Darren Devries as well. 139 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,120 What we're seeing with him is we're seeing a, you know, he's 140 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,039 he's getting a couple leads, getting a couple bigs, but he's 141 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:42,080 really filling that middle with six, four to 6-8 guys who can 142 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,760 shoot the ball and drive the ball. 143 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,640 As Mike said. And you know, I was watching it, 144 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,320 you know, but what the film I watched on him, he's being at 145 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,360 his and his high school program is being used as a point guard 146 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,440 for Team Takeover. He's more that off guard kind of 147 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,000 small wing position. He's not. 148 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,720 And, and this is, this is not a knock. 149 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,160 This is a knock on, not really a knock on a player. 150 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,640 It's just kind of where you are developmentally. 151 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,680 So many times players at this stage of their development, 152 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,120 they've been asked to score their whole lives. 153 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,720 And what they're looking to do coming off the screen or when 154 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,520 they get the ball is immediately look to score. 155 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,520 And the good thing about about Moody is that he hits, you know, 156 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,960 when he hits the lane, he's he's landing in two feet. 157 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,520 He is looking for a shot going and elevating to the college 158 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,480 game. He once he attacks those close 159 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,880 outs, he's going to see and learn better how to deliver the 160 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,480 pass in the right location to the right spot off the read. 161 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,760 He reads well enough to attack the close out at the right time 162 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,600 currently, which is a good sign. He he makes the right decision 163 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,680 there. He can also get his own shot on 164 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:45,040 the perimeter. We're talking about that with 165 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,920 the last recruit, the the kid from Serbia that we just talked 166 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,240 about very similar where he can kind of get his own shot in 167 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,120 those in those areas and, and, and kind of figure out when to 168 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,440 do that. But I think from from that 169 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,560 standpoint, you know, this is again the sort of player that 170 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:05,840 you need an entire roster of, you know, a AA98 or nine players 171 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,920 like this to fill in with a couple points and a couple bigs 172 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,320 and you've got yourself a roster that that can compete at at a 173 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,520 high level. Mike, it's an interesting thing 174 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,720 is I've looked at his rankings and where he sits. 175 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,480 There's a real delta in terms of how the recruiting services have 176 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,280 looked at him. I mean, I've seen him as low as 177 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,880 170th in one set as a three star. 178 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,320 He's 104th, I think with Rivals as a four-star. 179 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Like is there a good explanation for that variance in terms of 180 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,080 how he's being scattered, especially when you consider the 181 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,760 programs that had offers in for him? 182 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,680 Like it's clearly a guy that a lot of really good programs are 183 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,400 trying to get. But it is interesting and, and I 184 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,720 maybe you have an explanation on this, why there's not quite the 185 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,440 same level of consistent evaluation from the scouting 186 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,360 services. Yeah. 187 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,160 I mean, yeah, we could do a whole pot on that alone, but. 188 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,400 But don't we? Don't we have a whole show that 189 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,920 does this? I don't know, I. 190 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Haven't heard there's. A show called Nexus. 191 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,920 And Joe's secrets unlocking by or What's the tagline, Bob? 192 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Decoding the way the winning formula in college basketball. 193 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Yeah. Yeah, well, if you trust those 194 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,080 guys, I mean, be careful. I I wouldn't, yeah. 195 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,000 No. So, yeah, you'll, you'll get 196 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,760 variances between the services just because the some of it is 197 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,480 just timing, because the updates come at different times. 198 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 And so kid like, you know, pops up a little bit. 199 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,800 The service that does the most recent update is going to have a 200 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,000 high-ranking for the kid, you know, versus the one that's 201 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,680 still like lagging. Also, you have to kind of 202 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:48,560 consider that he plays again with, he plays with some really 203 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,240 good talent around him on his high school team. 204 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:56,640 Kaden Samuels is the wing forward at McNamara. 205 00:11:56,680 --> 00:12:02,040 He is probably maybe the most, maybe the second or third most 206 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,760 skilled wing in in the whole class. 207 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,480 He's like a top 20 recruit for 2026. 208 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:15,440 And Samuels is also on Team Takeover along with Jordan 209 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Smith, who is another recruit you may be hearing about up in 210 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,320 the future for IU And hopefully, hopefully a lot. 211 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Jordan Smith's probably the most exciting guard in college or 212 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,520 high school basketball this year. 213 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,280 I, I don't want to do a scouting report, but just easy for IU 214 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,880 fans. The kind of vision he he's like 215 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Eric Gordon with dreadlocks. I mean, the kid is just like 216 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,360 built explosive. Like, I mean, literally like 217 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,200 chin on rim, kind of like elevation and just, you know, 218 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,320 skilled but very aggressive. He's going to be a great player. 219 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,840 I mean, and so he's playing with those kids already. 220 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,720 All right. So there's there's always going 221 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,840 to be some variance in terms of the ratings in terms of when 222 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,760 you're playing with kids that are that you know, like just 223 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,840 surrounded with talents like OK, is is this kid this good? 224 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,360 Because he is like the third option on this team versus is 225 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,200 he, you know, or is he really contributing what we think we 226 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,280 could if you took those good players away from him. 227 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,480 So there's a variety of reasons. We're going to get some ranking 228 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,480 variance. I will say this personally, 229 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:32,480 just, you know, doing my own sort of like basic rankings if I 230 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,880 were categorizing him just based upon, you know, what his scout 231 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,560 is, from what I see, he kind of aligns with about a 70 to 90 232 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:46,480 kid. Which was where he was about a 233 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,640 year ago. And Mike mentioned the shooting 234 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,920 issues that he was having. And you know, sometimes, you 235 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,960 know, kids when they're growing, I mean kids, they, it, it, 236 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,720 they're, sometimes they're, they're shot changes their body, 237 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,840 their body changes. They put on more weight, they 238 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,560 put on more muscle. They're they're they're 239 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,360 maturing. And so sometimes you see a 240 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,800 little bit of a wall and they're shooting where, OK, they were 241 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,960 maybe hitting at a better clip when they were 413 or 14 and 15. 242 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,440 And when they're 615-1617, they kind of go through a process 243 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,320 where they're kind of re kind of re reforming or kind of their 244 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,960 bodies kind of rebuilding a little bit. 245 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,760 The other part of this, and this is I think the kind of the 246 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 critical thing is in this is like Mike and I do talk about a 247 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,920 little bit. It's I've always felt like, you 248 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,600 know, the recruiting, the recruiting industry and the way 249 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,960 they rank has just now began to start valuing shot creation and 250 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,400 shot making as a key skill. Because when you would go back 251 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,080 to the rankings, I would go over the last, you know, maybe 10 252 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,160 years ago, even five years ago, you saw a lot of talking about 253 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,440 handle talking about court vision, talking about past 254 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,840 delivery, talking about getting to the rim, that that sort of 255 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,960 blow by speed. Or they would talk about bigs 256 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,920 and their ability to playing over there up over the rim and 257 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,960 their ability to, you know, just to be athletically more gifted 258 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,880 or skills wise. Those were the skills that were 259 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,160 prioritized. And what we're finding now is a 260 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,920 lot of players I felt were undervalued, who were considered 261 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,560 to be shot creators and shot makers. 262 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,760 And you're beginning to see the rankings try to catch up with 263 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,720 that. Well, part of the problem with 264 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,040 that is now you when you when you look at a world where you 265 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,040 have weeds, bigs, everybody else, and now you're trying to 266 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,840 figure out how to evaluate everybody else, there's going to 267 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,520 be some disagreement. There's going to be some churn 268 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,240 trying to just say, well, is this kid, is this kid projecting 269 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,240 to be a 38% three-point shooter in college basketball at 270 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Division One or is he a 32 percent, 30% three-point 271 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,480 shooter? If I'm looking at a player that 272 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,800 this kid reminds me of, like how he could be utilized, think 273 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Jamaya Neil who played at Creighton this past year and he 274 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,200 was a sub 3330% three-point shooter in this time at Arizona 275 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,000 State, 65 wing player could get his own shot. 276 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,480 He got better at making assists his senior year, especially when 277 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,160 the Creighton system, and then he got his three-point shot over 278 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,480 30%. I feel like this kid is very 279 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,920 similar to Neil, except I think he's a better shooter from the 280 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,200 perimeter and definitely from the line. 281 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,680 Yeah. And again, it's kind of both 282 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,920 from let me start with the recruiting archetypes. 283 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,240 It does feel like there was kind of a a referendum against combo 284 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,600 guards in the eyes of the recruiting services for a while 285 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,000 and not knowing how to deal with them. 286 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,840 And now we're seeing the way that basketball has kind of 287 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,320 evolved over the last 10 years or so. 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 This is becoming an archetype that you want on your team, as 289 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,520 you guys have mentioned and and clearly the archetype that 290 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Darren Devries is looking for, as you mentioned, Mike, a bunch 291 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,600 of guys who are switchable defensively, who can do multiple 292 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,400 things offensively, who can be on ball or off ball. 293 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Yeah, you hope the shooting translates. 294 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,160 I've seen some people bring up like the EYBL numbers are not as 295 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,680 good as the high school numbers are. 296 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,840 But I think is is important to remember you're talking about 297 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,280 different roles being played as you go up in the collective 298 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,800 level of talent that you're playing with. 299 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Which is something that you're likely going to see for most 300 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,160 college players coming off their high school teams or their AAU 301 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,839 teams, where suddenly they're playing with a bunch of players 302 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:16,960 who are significantly better than the players they were 303 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,680 playing with and maybe significant better, 304 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:21,599 significantly better than they are, at least to start with. 305 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,280 But another kind, it does kind of feel like a developmental 306 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,359 piece. And we've heard a lot of people 307 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,240 talk about, I don't mean developmental in terms of like 308 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,440 going to need two or three years to get going, but a guy who can 309 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,040 grow and stick around for a while if he sees a, a, a, a 310 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,280 place for himself within the program and the ability to grow 311 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,320 his game. And as we've seen, you can't 312 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,840 just live in the transfer portal. 313 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,120 You're going to need to have guys who can stick around for a 314 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,400 few years. And especially with the way that 315 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,360 Debris set up the roster this year, you're going to need that 316 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:57,680 hand off next year of guys who can learn the system, get it 317 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,560 underway and then be a sustainable force as the roster 318 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,840 continues to coalesce and hopefully add some players that 319 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:09,040 may only be here for a season. Yeah, I, I think the, the idea 320 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,560 of grabbing kids that are actually showing that they're 321 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:18,040 improving in the moment is really key because you see so 322 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,440 often, you know, and then unfortunately I just been bitten 323 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,160 by this in the past where they will, they'll get a kid that 324 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,680 maybe had good, had good credentials, let's say their 325 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,520 junior year in high school, but maybe kind of just like leveled 326 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,120 off in their senior year. But we're, but they were still 327 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,560 kind of being viewed as, oh, wait a minute. 328 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,600 But you know, he was a top 50 kid when he was, you know, a 329 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,480 junior. But of course, you know, some of 330 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,760 those kids because they plateau out then they suddenly become 331 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,600 like more like a 150 kind of kid. 332 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:48,280 You see, like, you know, Moody's one of these kids that is 333 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,880 definitely like spiking up. He's again, his skill set again, 334 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,040 not just a shooting. I mean, his ability to like 335 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,160 create lateral separation. He's kind of developed even 336 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,120 better left hand that he's had before. 337 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,840 So you know, a lot of these facets of his game that you kind 338 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,360 of see that you need to have when you're going to, you know, 339 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,480 like upper tier college basketball. 340 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:13,520 He's he's starting to develop those, you know, and is going in 341 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240 the right direction versus them just plateauing out. 342 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,400 Kind of the same with, you know, with Devries going after Sammy 343 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,120 Jackson, even though IU lost him to VCU, he's another kid that 344 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:29,240 was, you know, like on the rise. So I, I think it's interesting 345 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,120 that it seems at least looking a lot of the offers that Devries 346 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:36,800 has made so far, a good chunk of those kids are definitely ones 347 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,560 that were on the rise. They're not the kids necessarily 348 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,440 that started at let's say like four or five and have just kind 349 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,400 of been like fluctuating, you know, the top 20. 350 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,440 He seems to be grabbing kids that have been actually showing 351 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,760 some degree of improvement, which is again, something that's 352 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,840 pretty predictive of what kids do when they get in college. 353 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,600 And something I think he's going to have to do in this cycle 354 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,520 because as we saw in football, like you're, you're starting 355 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,440 this cycle relatively fresh. Your staff is fresh. 356 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,920 You've yet to play a game at Indiana or coach a game at 357 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,120 Indiana. You're not going to probably nab 358 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:15,200 a whole lot of recruits for that 26 class that are already 359 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,040 recognized as being among the top players, at least not 360 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,640 initially, unless you can get a cluster of players that really 361 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,520 excite. Those guys, now you're kind of 362 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,680 cooking with gas in terms of what you can do with who you can 363 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,200 sign and who might be interested in you. 364 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,000 But I would imagine as they continue to forge relationships 365 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,200 and forge a reputation among high schoolers who are currently 366 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,960 freshmen sophomores, you're going to see more higher level 367 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,040 offers of guys that you've seen on this developmental curve. 368 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,840 But maybe you're already like clearly showing even higher 369 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,480 levels of potential moving forward. 370 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Bob, you, we, we were talking a little bit before about, you 371 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,800 know, Kenny Johnson and this DMV circuit. 372 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,720 I mean, this is an important thing to to bring back up. 373 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,840 As you know, I you really specifically went after a couple 374 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,600 of assistant coaches who had strong recruiting pedigrees, but 375 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Kenny Johnson's a special case. And, and we've, we've benefited 376 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,800 from some of Kenny Johnson's expertise in the past, but 377 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,440 explain to the folks like what makes him in this particular 378 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,920 area such an important piece to have on Indiana's bench? 379 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,120 He he has relationships with everybody in, in that area and 380 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:32,040 is, has been a fixture in this, in this scene for might we say 381 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,560 25 years. Yeah, even longer if you go 382 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,240 back, how long it's been. Involved in if we're really 383 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,160 going back here, we're talking the late 20th century sorts of 384 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,280 things where we are sort sort of sort of building here. 385 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,600 And I I think a lot of that is, you know, I, I believe he was 386 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,360 Victoria Oladipo. You know, when you get to it, 387 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,480 right guide to it that we the IU lands Victoria Oladipo because 388 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,120 and very similar kind of similar to what we were talking about 389 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:59,080 where you have a kid that, you know, projects to be, you know, 390 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:02,680 he Victoria Oladipo was not exactly ranked really high, but 391 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,440 they saw unlimited ceiling with the kid. 392 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,880 And he showed that as a college player and also showed it as an 393 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,880 NBA player as well that, you know, that was a sort of sort of 394 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,040 sort of player. And when you have those types of 395 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,760 connections, when you have the sort of information that and, 396 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,440 and just sort of experience that Kenny Johnson brings to the 397 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,120 table, what you're able to figure out is, OK, we know that 398 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,400 this kid right now hasn't developed this, but we're 399 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,000 seeing, but we're seeing that he is developing it right, Right. 400 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,600 At this point. We've seen that, you know, I 401 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,360 know I trust this coach to make this evaluation. 402 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,040 I trust these individuals who have seen them to make these 403 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,600 evaluations. I've seen them myself. 404 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,240 I see this kid as a as a definite high level target for 405 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,000 us. That's the sort of thing you get 406 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,920 out of the Rolodex. It's not just going into 24/7 or 407 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,400 on three and ESPN and going OK, well, we've triangulated these 408 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,680 and these are the 15 kids based on the rankings and the 409 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,040 positioning and that we need. What you're able to do then is 410 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,800 you're able to kind of again, it's like getting in on a stock 411 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,400 right before they announce a, you know, getting on a 412 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,120 pharmaceutical software. They announced they had the the 413 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480 the latest diabetes drug. You know, if you can, if you if 414 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,680 you know that you you're getting definite inside information and 415 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,440 that's what you're buying with an assistant coach. 416 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,520 When you're paying them that you're paying them, you're 417 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,600 paying for that experience and that sort of background that 418 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,400 you're not going to get just from maybe somebody that's kind. 419 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,280 Hi, I'm Skippy. I'm here. 420 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,800 I'm, I'm here in my first year. I'd like to know how, how do you 421 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,320 all play basketball in Baltimore? 422 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,480 That's different than how we do it in how we do it in Peoria, 423 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800 IL. It's like, yeah, now you get a 424 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,760 guy that actually, you know, has that street cred and it's fine. 425 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,880 It you know, that's, that's the business. 426 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,440 And now that we're kind of going now that the the, the transfer 427 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,640 market, transfer portal market is settling and we're beginning 428 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,880 to start seeing, OK, how do you rebuild your feeders or how do 429 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,760 you go back into your feeders? Having guys that know that that 430 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,240 are able to do both and Kenny Johns is one of them, it's 431 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,200 pretty critical. Yeah, it helps also that the, 432 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,280 the, the programs that you're dealing with are some most elite 433 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,520 in the country. I mean, we're talking about, you 434 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,640 know, Coach Johnson obviously mentioning that takeover is #1 435 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,240 on the EYBL circuit. Don't forget that Coach Clark 436 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,600 has a long history with MO Con Mocon's about probably the 5th 437 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,520 best AU squad in the country right now. 438 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,520 So, so. And when you're a first year 439 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,600 coach and you're probably not going to be able to have the 440 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,280 advantage of like the longevity relationships with recruits 441 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,760 because you're going to be losing out to guys who've been 442 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,400 on them since they're a freshman. 443 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,320 So what you have to rely on is the fact that, OK, I've got 444 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,200 assistants that can basically kind of move us towards the 445 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,440 front of the line, not as I guarantee commits, but it 446 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,800 definitely helps a lot in terms of your like conversion rate on 447 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,360 those kind of kids. And what we heard, you know, 448 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,800 what we know about Darren Devries is he's very much hands 449 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560 on at closing these. And that I think has been 450 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,680 critical as we've been, as we watch the whole portal unfold 451 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,640 and we're watching these recruitments. 452 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,520 We're, we're seeing, we're seeing a coordination and that 453 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,120 and, and activity from the whole, from the whole staff. 454 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,240 The assistant coach gets you in the door. 455 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,640 The head coach has to seal the deal. 456 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,200 And sometimes the assistant coach helps you do that too. 457 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,920 But for the most part, there's, there needs to be that 458 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,040 relationship with the head coach. 459 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,880 And I think he's showing how that that that he's, he's not 460 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960 only interested in doing it, but he relishes doing it. 461 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,320 Yeah, not a huge amount else to cover with this particular 462 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,040 commit. I mean all the the stats in the 463 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,600 video. I would recommend checking out a 464 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,800 a lot of good tweets out there right now and and some message 465 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,760 board and website coverage regarding Prince Alexander 466 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Moody. You know, I guess maybe we'll 467 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,000 wrap up with this gentleman in the rosters. 468 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,160 Looks like it's almost complete for this upcoming year with 469 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,840 wristage and we're still waiting to see what happens with that 470 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,440 last piece of the roster. This the first confirmed piece 471 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 for 26. How many more recruits would you 472 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,000 anticipate they're going to try to bring in in this cycle? 473 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,120 I mean, it's, it's, I know it's kind of tough to say because 474 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,840 obviously you're going to have portal options. 475 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,840 You're going to have guys that maybe initially you're thinking 476 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,640 you're only going to stick around for a year and, and maybe 477 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,080 we'll we'll stick around for a second year. 478 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,800 You'll have guys that'll transfer the roster's still a 479 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,520 little bit unsettled for 26. Do you do you have a sweet spot, 480 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,680 you know Cat and pending Mike that that you would like to see 481 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,800 IU aim for in terms of the class size that they would have for 482 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,040 26? Well, I, I think a lot of that's 483 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,880 probably, I mean, just functionally it's going to 484 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,680 depend upon like how many of the the kids they really want that 485 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240 they can get right. And the the rest is just going 486 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,360 to be, you know, OK, well, let's say they, I know they're going 487 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,440 to be going after heavy for Anthony Thompson. 488 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,880 Not the Anthony Thompson of football that you remember, but 489 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,080 an actual an actual basketball recruit out of Ohio who's who's 490 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,480 a fantastic talent that I know I use like going after pray yard. 491 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,000 Latrell Almond also is a kid I know that seems to freeze is 492 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,320 kind of focusing on. So there's going to be a core of 493 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,360 probably like a certain, I'm, let's say like 5 or 7 kids at 494 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,640 least that they're really going to like try to get some leverage 495 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,160 with if they get three or four of those, I mean, that'd be 496 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,640 awesome. I don't, I don't anticipate 497 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,040 they're going to be getting that many high school kids, but never 498 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,720 know. So, but is there a sweet spot? 499 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,040 The problem is, is that right now in the in the data research 500 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,760 I do, it's too new to know exactly like what the ratios 501 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 are, right? We've only had like, you know, 2 502 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,040 full seasons or so of like having like a full cycles of 503 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,000 recruiting classes going through at the same time as having the, 504 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,160 the portal active. Just from my perspective, I 505 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,520 think you need to have at least like a few high school kids, not 506 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,200 necessarily like a full like, you know, 7-8 in the past. 507 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760 You need to have at least a core of like, you know, 3 to 5. 508 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,400 They're kind of hanging around in the program that can actually 509 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,480 make a difference. So I think Moody's kind of one 510 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760 of those kids. Sicily, I think it's also a 511 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,960 pretty good upper tier kid that's probably going to make 512 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,160 some some waves once he develops a little bit more. 513 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,640 If you could just get like two or three more kids like that, 514 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,480 it's kind of like cycle them through because they're going to 515 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,600 lose some of them and there's no way you're going to retain all 516 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,920 of them. There's the portal's going to 517 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,080 chew you up on some of that. So I think if you can keep like, 518 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 you know, 3 to 5 high school kids that are kind of active 519 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,200 with you at all times, that is sort of like, I would say maybe 520 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,440 the most functional version of a sweet spot I guess you have for 521 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,360 that. I'd say 4. 522 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,000 I agree with Mike and I would say that, you know, I feel I'm, 523 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,680 you know, looking at this, I feel like they would need 524 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,120 they're looking at some they they have several bigs that 525 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,080 they're looking at. Like I could see them going 5 if 526 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520 they want to take two big projects, because I think it's 527 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,400 harder. It's much harder to find high 528 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,000 level quality ready to play big men in the portal than it is to 529 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280 find wings and even points and leads. 530 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 I do think there may be a point where they're, you know, they 531 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,440 they're looking at a few few lead guards. 532 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,080 I think Jordan Smith was still on the list right now that that 533 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,440 they they have an offer out for that's going to be one of those, 534 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480 you know, Royal Rumble type recruitments where you better 535 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,040 bring a chair and Miss Elizabeth if you're going to be 536 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,160 competitive and a but. And a checkbook now And a. 537 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,280 Ted Dibiase, we got to, we got to be the Ted Dibiase. 538 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840 We got to be the $1,000,000 man in the ring with that one. 539 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,760 But but it's also I think that's something that you know, you're 540 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,600 looking at definitely getting. So you're going to need to 541 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,680 replace Conaway with another lead. 542 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,720 Wristic may come come into that position. 543 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,000 We're going to need some. You know, you're going to need 544 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200 at least a two to three leads and the roster going into next 545 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,320 year or high quality. So I mean, four or five is 546 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,320 probably about the number I would look at and you can pick 547 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,120 up the rest of the portal. But if you're looking at kind of 548 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,320 where he where where Devries is with this, with about 30 or so 549 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,440 offers out, we also have to realize it's June 27th. 550 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,280 One week from tonight is July 4th. 551 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,720 So happy Independence Day. But now we're getting to the 552 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,560 point where the fall visits for these seniors haven't really 553 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,120 happened yet. Those are going to be coming. 554 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,200 You know, we're not really even chalk into what you would call 555 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,840 heavy high school recruiting season going into that time from 556 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,680 mid August to the Thanksgiving break where you start seeing 557 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,320 visits followed by commitments. But no, I mean, I agree with 558 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,760 Mike that I, I do, I think it's really hard to tell. 559 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360 But I think at this point, if we come in, if we're, if we're 560 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,400 staying at Christmas and we have, you know, four or five 561 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,240 really good recruits that you know, and we're talking again, 562 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,120 couple, couple bigs, at least a lead and a couple and a couple 563 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,160 wings. I think we should feel pretty 564 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,400 good coming into this and then and getting Moody at this point 565 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,960 right now is a great start. It's a great start. 566 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,000 I can't emphasize that enough. And just to note, I think of the 567 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,640 four players in this class that had made officials, this was one 568 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,480 of them. And it was what a couple of days 569 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,160 ago you mentioned Latrell Allman made an official on I think June 570 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,480 17th and 18th, Suigo, the Luigi, Suigo the the Italian made an 571 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,440 official. So you still got a couple of 572 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,520 those active out there. And then you've got out this 573 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,680 whole list is Mike Radoff, who haven't really been set their 574 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,080 officials yet for fall. And you were expecting those to 575 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,400 kind of happen later on anyway as far as the decisions are 576 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,640 concerned. But good to get a fish into the 577 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,360 boat always. And especially a four-star, 578 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,680 especially someone that could be a table setter for maybe some of 579 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760 his teammates on on Team Takeover and certainly re 580 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,640 establishing A recruiting relationship with the DMV. 581 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440 Good for business regardless of where you're at in college 582 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,400 football, Kyle or Gork. Well, college football, but 583 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,920 definitely college basketball right now. 584 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,240 So certainly a good day for IU basketball. 585 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,600 Good day for IU football recruiting too. 586 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,320 We're going to try to talk about that this weekend. 587 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,400 But guys, any final thoughts before we wrap up? 588 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,960 Bob, you first. Just just just more to watch, 589 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,680 more to come. They're not. 590 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,920 They're not close to being done yet. 591 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Mike. Yeah, same. 592 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,400 And yeah, yeah, the summer circuit's kind of heating up. 593 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,520 So like Peach Jam and things like that are just around the 594 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,480 corner, So you can probably hear a lot of names, not just for 595 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560 this class, but, you know, for the next class. 596 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,240 So, you know, recruiting never ends. 597 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,920 That's right, we had almost 1500 people join us live on the 598 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600 various outlets and we really appreciate it. 599 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960 Thanks to all of you for taking the time on your Friday night. 600 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,240 If you watch this live and if you're watching this later, 601 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,520 hopefully you enjoyed it as Prince Alexander Moody recruits 602 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,240 from Maryland commits to Indiana University City. 603 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,800 Darren Devries's first high school commit and the first 604 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,240 commit of the 2026 class. Thanks to Mike and Bob for 605 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760 joining us on the show tonight and we will be back with more 606 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,960 back home network programming coming up soon. 607 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440 I will say I noticed earlier on in the chat, Terry said that 608 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,400 they did not get a notification when we went live. 609 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,520 You do have to go in to your subscriber options for the 610 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,000 channel and click on the full subscription option. 611 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,520 That'll give you notifications should pop up on your phone. 612 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,520 Certainly will pop up on on your YouTube, on your computer. 613 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,680 So sorry about that. But if you're subscribed to 614 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120 YouTube, please try checking that out, see if it'll work for 615 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440 your notifications wise. Anyway, for Mike, for Bob, I'm 616 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,720 GAIL and Clavio. We're going to wrap up for 617 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,400 tonight. Enjoy the weekend, folks. 618 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,320 We'll catch you on the flip side and so on, everybody.