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Hi folks, welcome back to 
Crimson cast. 

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I mean it's only been by only 
done like three podcasts today 

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but I'm so excited to join with 
my partner. 

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Gala news, give me the eye roll 
Galen what's up, man? 

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Hey, you know, I'm sorry that 
you've been so burdened The only

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record three podcasts in a day. 
I mean, do we need? 

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You have health insurance from 
this job. 

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Come on, man. 
You're fine. 

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The Crimson cast Blue Cross 
plan. 

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It's great. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, we'll talk about it at our
next HR meeting know, I just, I 

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wanted to talk to you and I 
figured the easiest way, was a 

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podcast to includes both of us 
have been doing for a while, but

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we're also joined by my old 
Crimson cash. 

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Friend, James James, who knows 
just what man hey everybody, 

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how's it going? 
I figured I'd get it on the old.

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Fast action here again, like you
and Galen have all the fun. 

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No. 
Well, let's let's talk. 

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This is going to be more like, 
Crimson cash or maybe even like 

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Crimson cast after dark because 
I wish we're all on Zoom. 

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James's background is the 
Mandalay Bay. 

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It's just fantastic. 
I feel like we're gonna get 

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three other backgrounds as this 
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We're here to talk odds. 
We're here to talk gambling. 

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We're here to talk about the 
NCAA tournament but I want to 

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start with. 
I think it's fun. 

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It's talked about the odds for 
the IU basketball, coaching 

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search and I'm going to pull 
that up and James and I were 

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just talking. 
They have not updated those 

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correct. 
So it's still with be line at 

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the top of the list. 
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Yeah, they haven't updated him 
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couldn't find anywhere. 
I could actually Bet On It. 

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So, I'm going to pull that up 
now. 

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Fantastic podcasting, just 
pulling it up now. 

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So it was be line, plus 300 G at
Bayside, be Line, Drew beard, 

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and the I love all for its plus 
700. 

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This is from its from the 
William Sportsbook like is this 

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how these are these odds from 
today? 

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Like really like offered still 
plus 700, you have, they read a 

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paper lately. 
I mean, Rick pitino's ahead of 

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Brad Stevens. 
Well, these are all these are 

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all three days old though and 
there's no updated. 

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There's nothing. 
There's no new updated. 

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Odds less. 
We can't find him. 

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So weird updated today. 
Who would will be almost hit 

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one? 
If we're updating today? 

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I think probably, I think be 
lines probably still at plus 

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300. 
I think really well, here's why 

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from, from a wedding In 
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It seems like the safest of The 
Hires there's no buyout 

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involved. 
It's a coach that is very 

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available right now have their 
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from an outsider's perspective, 
it feels like the safest bet 

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you're not counting on. 
I you to have to pay 5 plus 

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million dollars or a huge 
buyout. 

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Or both, if you Pat on belie, I 
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probably what was the original. 
It was Scott drew at 350. 

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I mean, if I was a sports book, 
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that's a sucker's bet. 
Because if you know anything 

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about IU, they're not going to. 
They're not hiring Scott dry be 

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really shocked if they hired 
Scott. 

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Do I think all of that was 
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and a little bit of other Buzz 
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you know? 
So I would stay away from that 

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one. 
Probably keep it up there. 

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I'd probably bump geared up to 
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I That one's got a little more 
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It certainly seems to be some 
mutual interest there from his 

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comments yesterday. 
I think Stephens. 

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Probably, I mean in the original
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Got if you've been able to get 
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have Jesus fuck. 
Just retire. 

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They're like, just hit the 
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probably get it. 
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because it's still a long shot, 
but it's not a 5. 

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It's not, you know, it's not a 
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in the ballpark than it was 
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What about Thad Matta? 
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plus twelve hundred. 
So this is interesting with Mota

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one of the things about this 
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That's fascinating, is that 
there's there's no nobody knows 

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anything like IU has a lid on 
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This is this is like trying to 
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They no one's getting in. 
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you've got leaks coming out from
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agents, spilling the beans to 
reporters so they can get their 

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dude, a higher contract. 
Now that's happening right now. 

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So we haven't heard a lot from 
about Mata, maybe Matas like the

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super secret candidate. 
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maybe he's not a candidate at 
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Either way, I'd bump him up to 
probably plus 900. 

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Yeah, you still have isolated 
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This is from couple days ago, 
five 1400 that seems about, 

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right? 
I don't know if I'd go higher or

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lower than that Phi seems and 
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that, plus fifteen hundred, I 
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Muscle Man's probably more like 
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don't understand the Dana Altman
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sports book or something like 
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That makes very little sense. 
We've heard nothing about him, 

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you know, I think you'd probably
have to throw a couple of the IU

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related candidates in at some it
somewhere here. 

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Like I think, you know, Mike 
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go somewhere, I don't know who's
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that that there would be a 
reasonable thing that people bet

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on. 
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love that. 
He's on there. 

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I love he's above Brad Stevens, 
but that's a great. 

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It's a great just just, just a 
name on there. 

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It's fantastic. 
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who I would put my money on for 
the coaching search. 

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And I told him I wouldn't put 
any money on it. 

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I think it's pretty much all 
suckers bets at this point. 

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I think, you know, nothing to 
really base it on. 

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bet on this I would throw money 
on Stephens muscleman and beer. 

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I think you're going to be okay 
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I mean, I would probably head 
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think you've got some 
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think any of that group probably
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hard time seeing eye, you not 
hiring from that particular 

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group. 
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you on in a while but I don't 
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The arch are all that. 
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who do you think is going to be 
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Well, my dream is Brad, stevens,
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I think, either one of those 
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hires, I don't know, I would, I 
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potato think, because they do I 
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And that's all I really care 
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This point, so it baby, when 
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remember, I think our Dream 
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was actually Rick Majerus who 
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right? 
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Rick Majerus being in 
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patina was a candidate then and 
it's funny to think it's like 20

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years later. 
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it's gonna happen, but 20 years 
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Could you imagine if we had to I
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at one point is his buyout at 
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Like that would be 12 million. 
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to buy him out like 10 to 12 
million dollars, I'd be nuts. 

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But the odds on that Pitino 
being the coach, you would have 

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to put down too much to make 
your money back as the donor. 

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So yeah. 
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that. 
Like, if you're the donor who's 

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made this pole, like you should 
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go to Dolson, you're like hey 
man here's my five million 

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dollars for the next coach and 
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throw it on the if it really is 
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you'd be doing pretty good 
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Grand on Stevens. 
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Dolson to go higher Stevens. 
It so, come on guys, show up 

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with baseball bats, plus your 
kneecaps. 

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Is this all legal now? 
It's all good government. 

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Run that by the time they get to
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with a baseball bat. 
That's no, I want to ask James, 

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we're heading into the 
tournament itself here from a, 

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let's move off the IU coaching 
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a little bit about some of the 
what's the best values. 

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You're seeing here in the first 
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tournament does anything stick 
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Well, my biggest advice is play 
the promos. 

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So every site has promos and 
they've got a bunch of them so 

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that's your best place to start 
on anything. 

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One example, I think it was 
DraftKings like a promo was if 

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Purdue wins one game you get 
$300. 

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Like I don't know if that's 
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Like how did bet on do? 
Is it absolutely it is. 

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But see the thing is a lot of 
times those are only for new 

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people but they're running ones 
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during this time span So you're 
getting a lot more out there 

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than normal for people who 
already have accounts with the 

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sports books. 
So play your promos whichever 

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ones are at, I posted a Twitter 
at the Crimson cast 260, some of

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the you know, some of the more 
popular sports books and what 

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promos they were running. 
I've got a free $45 coming 

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tonight on Michigan State 
because I've got Michigan State 

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plus 100 and some points. 
Is $50 the max bet on that one. 

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I'm doing that. 
That is correct. 

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Yes. 
But hey, ended up being a free 

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$45 for you. 
So that, you know, that's my 

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advice. 
I see some good value on some of

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the props out there. 
DraftKings had 112 seed to be 25

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at - 125 odds. 
I snatched that up. 

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I think stay away from a lot of 
like future bets and really 

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watch things in game would be 
the other. 

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Advice that I'd have so like, 
you know, maybe you know, a 

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team, you know, that's favor 
gets down 10 minutes into the 

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game, 20 minutes to the game. 
Those lines, really fluctuate, 

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and you can get some really good
value there. 

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I look at day one and you know I
think with Villanova having not 

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look good in the Big East 
tournament having lost probably 

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their best player to still be a 
seven-point favorite to me like 

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that's an interesting bit right 
there. 

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Like I think Winthrop was pretty
good. 

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Winthrop is like, yeah, I don't 
know, I don't know there any 

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other I'd like them to win 
anyway, but you're getting them 

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plus 7 as I look down. 
Like, I think that's the one 

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that I like, I would say, I know
Galen didn't ask me, but the 

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things that I would stay away 
from Artemiy. 

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The sucker bets are like the 
anything plus, 20 or 25 points. 

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A Houston is a 20-point favorite
tomorrow going through here, 

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like Illinois is 20 to 22 and a 
half and then we just seen it 

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where good teams can win but 
then struggle struggle along the

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way, then find a way to win. 
I would just I would not be 

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comfortable with anything over, 
you know, somebody having to 

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cover a spread more than like 
seven or eight points. 

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I just just that would that 
would scare the heck out of me 

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in the first round. 
One specific bet that I do love 

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is Syracuse. 
San Diego. 

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State is over under 139 and a 
half. 

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I definitely think that's going 
under the total. 

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Those are two defensive teams 
and we've seen what that 

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Syracuse is. 
The owners is done to other 

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teams over the past. 
I don't think there's gonna be a

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lot of points in that one. 
The other one up yet. 

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Sorry, go ahead. 
Another one that stuck out to 

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me. 
He was Colgate in Arkansas, you 

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know, I don't look at this, 
they're totally there to really 

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high scoring teams and they 
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number but towards the end of 
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less points. 
I just that's such a huge 

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number, take the under there. 
That's 160 and a half or 161 is 

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what I'm seeing. 
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because it opened it, a hundred,
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So it's gone up in some cases 
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of days ago. 
So that to me strikes me as a 

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game where people have talked 
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with track meet and we don't see
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there's teams that they have 
nerves, they come in, they're 

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not shooting as well. 
They're in an unfamiliar. 

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Building, that would be the 
other thing. 

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I would mention pay attention, 
if you're going to bed over 

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unders. 
Where is the game being played? 

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Assembly Hall Mackey. 
You know any of the smaller 

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venues Hinkle I guess you're 
gonna have some good shooting 

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performances because those are 
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You get a team in the Lucas Oil 
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a weird background where the 
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perception, fans percentages, 
they go down quite a bit there 

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and so if you've got a number 
you're looking at and you're a 

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little Sketch you out of that. 
Probably, maybe. 

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Look at the under there. 
If you've got the option. 

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What about the farmers Coliseum?
You know I've broadcast in that 

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building before now. 
But yes, it was. 

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I would count as a smaller 
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Sure, but yeah, I'm less worried
about that. 

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We saw basketball there last 
week. 

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I think it was the I think it 
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Horizon League was playing their
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the Mac. 
It was He's one of the two. 

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Anyway, the that it felt like 
normal games like there was 

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normal offense being played 
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about the farmers Coliseum, as I
am about Lucas Oil. 

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Good advice. 
I would also, you know, I love 

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playing the region winners and 
you can get some interesting 

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value. 
Their, you know, the the one 

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seeds are all like you know 
Baylor's plus 100 to win the 

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South Michigan's plus 175 
Illinois's plus 150 but you just

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drop down two or three seed 
lines and you get some pretty 

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good value. 
So if you look at like the 

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Midwest you're like look I think
you know I like Houston or let's

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say you're in the Houston like 
plus 350 s not bad I guess not a

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bad number to get there even if 
you're like Florida. 

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A plus 500 or Texas. 
Plus 550. 

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Like, you're getting a two, 
three or four seed, which has 

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pretty good odds of making the 
final make, you know, winning 

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their region, you're getting 
pretty good odds. 

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So I would say pick one or two 
regions where you just think you

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don't like the one seed and 
throw a little money on one of 

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those teams and kind of that 345
range. 

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You're going to get good value. 
I'll tell you the one, that's 

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the one that sticks out to me. 
There is Alabama, plus 390 that 

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that's a that's a two seed that 
Plays a fascinating and very 

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difficult to defend style of 
basketball. 

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They have Michigan's region. 
Do I have that memorized, a, our

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admissions reading? 
Yeah. 

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And Michigan, you know, Michigan
might be missing, a key player 

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in a lot. 
I think it was livers set of or 

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broke his foot, or at a stress 
fracture in his foot, I haven't 

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seen if he's going to play or 
not, but even if he's not 100%, 

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that's a tough Alabama team and 
that's pretty. 

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That's that, that to me, I 
actually had Alabama in my final

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four. 
Anyway, so that's one that I I 

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would seriously consider. 
And I would double down with 

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Alabama as just the national 
champion at plus sixteen 

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hundred. 
Like, if you're going to do 

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that, like bet ten percent, if 
you're going to get like 50 

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bucks on them to win the region,
throw another like 10 on them, 

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just to win it all just for the 
odds. 

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Yeah. 
Another thing you can look at is

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looking at like the conference, 
you know, as the which 

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conference will win the title. 
So if you're, you know, looking 

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to find some value in there, I 
think the big Ten's, actually 

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pretty good value there. 
I think. 

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There are four teams from the 
Big Ten that could legitimately 

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make a run in the tournament. 
So, if you think about it that 

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way, that's another place you 
can get some value. 

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I think, Yeah. 
Or is it just a certain? 

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I think I was gonna say the Big 
12 might be the other one to 

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look at just because you've got 
Kansas who's played better, 

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you've got Oklahoma state, who's
got the best player in the 

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tournament and you've got Texas 
who look really good at the end 

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of the season as well. 
Plus, Texas Tech who, you know, 

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by overall, we know my tender 
going on another run in this 

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tournament. 
So either of those conferences, 

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I like the big Ten's, probably 
got a better shot, you might be 

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able to get slightly better 
value with the big 12, the team 

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that stuck out to me again. 
It's a value play. 

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Not a I think they're going to 
win it all play. 

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But for, when you look at 
National Championship, you know,

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odds Michigan State at plus 
10,000. 

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I don't think they're going to 
win me. 

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They've got to play one game but
I will say it is 0. 

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Has these teams where you're 
like, they're not good. 

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And then every both y'all are 
shaking your head. 

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It's a value piece of, you know,
I like them. 

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Better than Wichita State Who 
currently is out at +10000 well,

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but it's good. 
That's a sucker's bet. 

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If I've ever seen one it's a bet
on his. 

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Oh, it's just a bet. 
I could, I'm it. 

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Save at 10,000 to one like, you 
get these teams with Israel, 

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where it's like, how the hell, 
are they in the sweet 16 and 

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then they are, then it's just 
like, oh, yeah, they're good. 

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I would, I would rather put that
money on like LSU who was in the

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SEC title game and and it looked
really good. 

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Unlike Michigan state, who's 
participating Lee was worse than

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Indiana this year and and just 
kind of happened to win some 

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games at the end to get into the
tournament. 

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I don't know. 
I know that even at ten thousand

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to one has like a long shot to 
me that that's that's not worth 

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the dollar you would lose on 
that bed. 

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Yeah that's gone money you got a
Maryland at plus 10,000? 

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I go on Monday that either. 
So if something's plus 10,000, 

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there's a reason it's plus 
10,000 because it's not going to

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happen. 
So probably right. 

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But come on no I am that I think
are notable just to think about 

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and I just mentioned Alabama it 
- 17 I think a lot of people are

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giving Iona too much credit 
because of Rick Pitino. 

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It's One thing to come out of 
covid hibernation as a team and 

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win the Metro Atlantic 
tournament. 

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It's another to face down the 
one of the best power Conference

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teams. 
I'd like Alabama to cover that 

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spread pretty easily. 
The other one, I'd keep an eye 

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on is Yukon. 
We're not sure what James bow 

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nights injury situation. 
Is least, I haven't seen 

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anything more recently. 
There - three on Maryland. 

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Maryland, obviously if you're a 
big ten fan is pretty straight. 

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Ikki. 
But Maryland is also a team that

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shown an ability to beat some 
good team. 

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So I think I kind of like 
Maryland in that as the underdog

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like Maryland as well. 
I also like Rutgers cone out, 

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the big tend to be Clemson. 
Is there a 10-7 as well, right? 

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They are. 
Yes, and that's a really, that's

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a tight spread if I'm not 
mistaken, that was like a point 

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and a half or something 
practically uptick them. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So there I like those especially

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in the first round because I've 
always see so many upsets every 

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year in the first round things 
that you wouldn't have 

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predicted, you know, games. 
Like, I mean, there's so many I 

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can't, I can't even name one of 
the top of my head but games 

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where you're just not going in 
thinking there's any issue if 

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you can find pick them's and you
like one of those teams from 

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what You saw or don't like the 
other team, like, jump on that 

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because those are kind of fun 
because it's just the outcome 

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that you're worried about as 
opposed to the spread. 

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And I do think particularly, if 
you're just getting started in 

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this, that can make it a little 
more entertaining or maybe, you 

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know, watch the start of the 
game and, you know, toss a live 

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bed in, that's another option to
go with. 

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You know, those pickups 
sometimes you might, you can 

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usually tell in the game of 
basketball, which teams playing 

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harder and that's usually the 
team that wins. 

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The game and that's usually 
pretty easy to tell. 

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So, you know, why? 
Betting can you saw with IU this

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year? 
I mean I made so much money live

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betting against the Hoosiers and
I hated doing it but I could 

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tell as soon as they go a minute
and a half without scoring, 

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boom, it's time to start looking
at the lines because they're 

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about to go five or six minutes 
without scoring. 

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I was going to ask. 
What's your income replacement 

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plan for not having Archie 
Miller coaching? 

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I you at this point like that 
that was a, that was You, you 

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you've got some trips planned 
based on all the Vets who made 

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well much like to have to wait 
and see. 

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DraftKings. 
Interesting props I want to run 

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by you guys. 
You can pick the winning State 

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and honestly Texas is under 
Texas as - 1134 because I guess 

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you're getting both Baylor and 
Houston and Texas and Texas and 

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Texas Tech but here's my other 
ones Washington Plus 2005 with I

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guess it's just all Yeah, 
Illinois plus, 600 Michigan, 

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plus 600, Florida, plus 1300, 
Ohio plus 1300 Iowa, +2000 West.

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Virginia 2000, Connecticut. 
3000, do you like any of those? 

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No. 
All right, let's do it. 

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But you're getting like Chicago 
Illinois. 

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There you go. 
Do you really think can win a 

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National Title? 
And if you think that just bet 

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that I think betting the state 
kind of unnecessarily, like 

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unless you really think two 
teams from the same state have a

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chance, a real chance of winning
the national title. 

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I would probably stay away from 
that. 

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Yeah, I mean, if you fill out 
your bracket, you've got Houston

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Texas, Texas Tech and Baylor in 
it. 

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Go ahead and take the Texas 
back, you know, I mean, Yeah, 

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one. 
And like, you know, I would also

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say this that, I think that if 
you really like a team, like, 

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let's just say you love Gonzaga 
and you think they're going to 

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win it all, you know, them to 
win. 

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The tournament is plus 200. 
Those odds aren't great like you

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can get Jalen Suggs to be the 
most outstanding player plus 900

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and so that I would, I would bet
that way if you like one of 

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those teams, it's really going 
to do well or that's it's got, 

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you know, rough odds. 
I would look at the statement 

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the state bet seem to be the 
same for Washington, but Like 

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all right, you know, the chance 
of Gonzaga wins, Jalen Suggs 

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being the best player is 
probably pretty high where it's 

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weird. 
Is Illinois, both Kofi caught. 

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By the way, Kofi cockburn. 
His name is cockburn people. 

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I know it's everyone wants to 
say Coburn, Kofi cockburn and I 

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you'd never get, you know, I you
they're both plus 900 to win. 

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Most outstanding players, you 
got to pick one of those. 

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I just pick Illinois at plus 
700. 

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Unless you're going to Parlay 
it, because why not, right? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, anything else. 

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And we got to wrap up here 
pretty soon. 

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We're just doing a little short.
Well, add more of these 

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throughout the course of the 
tournament but James, I guess 

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with you first anything in else 
that you've seen any props or 

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any games that you would tell 
people to maybe keep an eye on, 

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I just say if you're going to do
some parlays, be careful. 

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You don't like in Jamal on one 
team that you really Is going to

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win because that's the surest 
way. 

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They're not going to win, so 
just keep that in mind. 

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So you have three different 
three trained team parlays, but 

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you have Purdue and every one of
them you might want to rethink 

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that strategy. 
Just so one thing doesn't sink. 

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You there's a way to get plus 
odds on both sides of it. 

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So if you bet the dog to start 
and maybe they get ahead, you 

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can get plus odds on the former 
favorite. 

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So you win either way. 
Way. 

445
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So don't be afraid to have fun 
with it though. 

446
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,500
And small bets, there's nothing 
wrong with that. 

447
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:25,500
That's my advice for the opening
weekend. 

448
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,000
If you're watching a game 
console I've been on it, it's so

449
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,300
much more fun. 
Yeah, I would like advice. 

450
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,900
I love it. 
Yeah, I go back to I like 

451
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,400
galen's point, you know, Place 
some of the Arena's. 

452
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,900
I think you're going to get 
overs when they're playing an 

453
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:44,800
assembly hall on Mackey and 
Hinkle and probably unders, 

454
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,900
especially these early rounds 
and the larger. 

455
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,900
The larger venues, I will also 
do some cool prop still on 

456
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DraftKings. 
Like, I just threw some money on

457
00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,300
this number of been, I do it for
every conference but number of 

458
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:58,800
Big Ten teams that will advance 
to the round of 32 ÷ 6 .5 or 

459
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,300
under 6.5, of course, I took the
over because I'm a big Half. 

460
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:07,200
But I also like this one, I 
mean, it's - money, but you can 

461
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,200
basically either take Gonzaga 
and Baylor or the field to win 

462
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,200
the whole thing, Gonzaga and 
Baylor's, plus 115. 

463
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,100
The field is - 143, like I'm 
gonna throw some money on the 

464
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,200
field just because it's a little
more fun that way. 

465
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,700
But yeah, I always like look if 
you think a team is going to win

466
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:25,400
look and see if you can get 
their player for most 

467
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,700
outstanding or if you really 
like Gonzaga to win it all, 

468
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,100
instead of betting them to win 
it all plus 200, just Bet them 

469
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,600
every single round just just 
basically bet them all the way 

470
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,300
through and to James's point 
maybe use them as one of your 

471
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:42,100
parlays on a couple of different
things but yeah just be careful 

472
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:45,100
up there. 
Don't link everything to one 

473
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:47,500
team especially in the first or 
second round. 

474
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:51,700
I love it. 
Sounds great. 

475
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,900
This is I think we've given 
people a lot of good advice as 

476
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,600
they head into this. 
The the is this is this gambling

477
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,300
Christmas is this weekend? 
This is qualified. 

478
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:04,400
James actually, last week was my
favorite week of the year for 

479
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,400
gambling. 
The collet the conference 

480
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,600
tournament week is actually my 
favorite week, but this is a 

481
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,900
rubber one day right there. 
I mean, this is, you know, right

482
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:18,300
there, I'm very excited. 
Follow my Twitter, like I said 

483
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:23,800
earlier, Crimson cast to 60. 
And I will leave tweeting out 

484
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,700
some advice if you want to toss 
in what you think's going to 

485
00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:30,500
happen. 
That'd be great, I'll give you 

486
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,400
my assessment. 
So let's have fun. 

487
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,000
So James, here's what I want 
from you. 

488
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,300
Every day on your Twitter. 
I want a like a five team 

489
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:44,800
parlay, like, a five or a 16. 
Parlay just just every and I 

490
00:27:44,808 --> 00:27:47,300
maybe even like two of them. 
I want that, I want that, I want

491
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:49,400
the slip, I'll go, I'll go in on
it, too. 

492
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,000
But let's just see if we can 
just nail a couple of these 

493
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,900
parlays. 
You did it once this year in the

494
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:58,700
Crimson cash. 
You got every single team in the

495
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:01,300
Big Ten slate. 
It was awesome, except you 

496
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:03,300
didn't bet it correctly. 
So that wasn't as awesome for 

497
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:06,400
you, but let's get one of these.
Let's get one of these. 

498
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,200
Absolutely, I will definitely 
what's the number. 

499
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,800
What's the number? 
Because I'm in on it, like, is 

500
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,500
it five teams 16 like every day?
What should we do? 

501
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:19,200
I've got a, I've already got a 
five Timur for tomorrow but it's

502
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,900
got one Saturday. 
A game. 

503
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,200
So that was to flout the rules 
then. 

504
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Let's do five, teamers. 
Alright, let's do five teamers 

505
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,500
on Saturday Sunday. 
I mean started, Friday, 

506
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,700
Saturday, got these days or 
screw me up 5T Burr on Friday 

507
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,300
Saturday. 
And then the go-to for a 

508
00:28:35,308 --> 00:28:38,000
delicious, bring it down every 
single round, like a 14, the 

509
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,100
next round of 32. 
Good three team and we'll just 

510
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,500
put it on Twitter. 
I'm Crimson cast, 317, he's 

511
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:47,800
Crimson cast to 60 and gaylen's,
just straight-up Crimson cast. 

512
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:54,500
The Godfather, The Godfather. 
I mean, it's so annoying with 

513
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:56,800
you all. 
It's, he gets the Godfather. 

514
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800
I'm like, Devonte greed of 
podcasting. 

515
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,800
Like, I just so got short shaft.
We got two nicknames. 

516
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,400
So all right well this was fun. 
Yeah, let's hop back on, maybe 

517
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000
in a week and see where we're at
and see how we did making some 

518
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,300
money. 
But I'm excited because this is,

519
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
I mean, I've been to Vegas a 
couple times for March Madness. 

520
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Back in the early 2000s, I will 
say this, as kind of my one side

521
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,400
story and then we'll wrap this 
up. 

522
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,200
I went with my current wife at 
the time. 

523
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200
A girl friend Marcie, and we 
were there for the NCAA 

524
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000
tournament, but we kind of 
walked around and they had a 

525
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,600
store in the MGM Grand, for The 
Wizard of Oz and frank Baum. 

526
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,200
Moms like grandson was there 
signing he had written some, you

527
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,600
know, adaptation of The Wizard 
of Oz and he was there, his 

528
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,600
grandson was there and he's like
signing books and like, oh, 

529
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,200
that's kind of cool. 
If the guy, you know, grandson 

530
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,700
the guy who what Wizard of Oz 
and I was like, hey, you know, 

531
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,300
like we bought a book on him to 
sign it and he's like oh you're 

532
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:55,100
from Indiana. 
Like you watch the Big Ten. 

533
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:56,900
Like I think I was gonna do 
against Drake and like just 

534
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,100
started immediately Hammer. 
Any questions of like, you think

535
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,900
I hit the over under and like, 
it's like, wow, this is Vegas. 

536
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:04,100
Like, I wanted to talk about the
Tin Man and the Scarecrow and 

537
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:07,300
you're like, Be on point totals 
for like Iowa, Drake or 

538
00:30:07,308 --> 00:30:09,900
whatever. 
So that was my fun Vegas thing 

539
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:14,700
but no, this is the long story. 
This is everybody's first time 

540
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,600
doing live betting with the 
tournament here in Indiana. 

541
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,400
Like I was able to do it in 
Vegas, but this is the first 

542
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,700
time I've ever going to be able 
to do it on my phone just 

543
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,100
watching the games here in 
Indiana. 

544
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:28,300
So it's great. 
It's actually better than being 

545
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:32,100
in Vegas because I mean the 
phone you get up to the second, 

546
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,600
you know, lines and Bets. 
And I mean, it's it's slick. 

547
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:40,300
This is going to be a blast 
blessing, James, you've always 

548
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:42,000
done this. 
You've swept me up a couple 

549
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,800
times than the football season. 
What app are you using now? 

550
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:53,000
I mostly use better MGM. 
I still use Draft Kings, but fan

551
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,100
do, I really only use when 
there's a, well, free money 

552
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,700
promo, like I'm getting tonight.
Yeah. 

553
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,400
All right. 
Well there he goes for for our 

554
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,500
advertisers. 
We take money from all of them 

555
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,100
but we definitely. 
Yes, Jamie Jamie Foxx, we will 

556
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,400
definitely have you on a draft 
that MGM. 

557
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,300
So, alright cool. 
Hey boys, it's been fun for 

558
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,700
podcasts coming. 
And thank you all for listening 

559
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,200
for James for Galen. 
This is Scott for Crimson cast 

560
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,600
signing,