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to have some awesome guests 
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got Griffin Gonzales in his 
First, I guess, official IU, 

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post-graduation, podcast, 
welcome to the show. 

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Good to see you, man. 
That makes me feel old you are, 

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I appreciate that. 
You are very old awfully. 

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Sorry. 
Yeah, excited to be here. 

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You know, enjoying the last 
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for as long as possible, got one
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So where you headed after this 
Louisville, Kentucky WDRB Sports

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and excited to see some 
different basketball cultures 

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down in that state. 
I heard there's some other stuff

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going on, so there's a few of 
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Absolutely, well Griffin. 
Appreciate you joining us. 

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We're going to have some IU 
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little bit later Miller cop 
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Anthony wheel joining us, Jordan
Geronimo joining us as well, but

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we wanted to chat for a little 
bit about just some things going

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on with IU Sports and what to 
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middle of summer at this point. 
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quiet because we're starting to 
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We had our first press 
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ago or yesterday is race. 
Thompson was on Zoom talking 

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about some of the new Chalmers 
for IU men's basketball and of 

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course football getting ramped 
up and ready to start fall Camp 

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That season starts in a couple 
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Just a lot under the surface 
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Happening, what is it that 
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out of the end of the 20 22 
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next year? 
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football because that's the 
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Indiana, football, obviously, 
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I mean, there's stuff you can 
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of the latter there, but I think
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Indiana football. 
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positive point of view, here is 
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there's a lot of new faces, 
there's a lot of new offenses. 

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From what I'm hearing guys are 
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They really love the offense, 
they're putting in and there's a

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reason there wasn't a spring 
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wanted to kind of keep some of 
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And I think that's Buzz That's 
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I think we've for the past few 
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been the opposite of what I'm 
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So the fact that players and 
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program are getting excited 
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Usually there's some by in 
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I mean last time I've heard 
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was you know two years ago where
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So I think this is a really 
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It's my saying they're going to 
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Big Ten, you know, no, probably 
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It's going to be tough rise. 
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find some momentum there. 
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compared to last year. 
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you've got what the 5th ranked 
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coming in and, you know, how 
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have immediate Impact versus 
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That's still a nice number. 
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isn't used to having, you know, 
the you got Connor Basile at 

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the presumptive starter at 
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So you've got some peace. 
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I think some guys at the skill 
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things that are going to be 
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The flip side is it's the 
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as we saw ESPN with their fpi. 
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schedule of anybody and it is 
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That's essentially what I use 
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Big 10 East, we're here in all 
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away, but they're not going away
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So you've still got the Full 
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have to go against the Ohio. 
State's the Michigan's the Penn 

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State's the Michigan State's. 
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the schedule early for football 
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I mean, there's a, there's an 
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where they win, six or seven 
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season. 
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momentum as much as momentum. 
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on the wrong foot, never really 
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We've seen Seasons where the 
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with IU or with other teams. 
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to watch that transpire. 
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football to me? 
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You can't just go get a bunch of
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even in this year of the 
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that's getting you have to build
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You have to build a winning 
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winning recruiting base. 
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recruiting class, they're 
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It's just going to take time for
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you can do. 
While those guys get in is show 

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them how the program works show 
that, you know, you're not, I 

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love this saying it's you can 
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but at the end of the day you 
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Way, there's still six wins on 
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tough to schedule of this, you 
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saying. 
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history, okay? 
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complain and class, he's like, 
don't tell me how rough the 

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water is, just bring in the boat
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a horse to water but you're not 
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Yeah, so, well, it's interesting
as a whole lot of roster, change

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this value, team with 27 
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offseason. 
And so, so, large imats a 

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quarter of the roster. 
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interesting to see if that I 
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of the cultural by in that we 
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A lot to get excited about. 
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presumptive, Big 10, favorite 
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to talk about that with an IU 
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I mean, yeah. 
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offseason when I went into that 
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first or second rated team in 
the conference but it's not, you

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know, there were so many 
questions about who was going to

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come back off of last year's 
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to look like and then where they
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additional pieces? 
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the important pieces? 
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They also added some really 
intriguing pieces so it's just a

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lot of Buzz around IU 
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It feels like maybe I mean it 
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the middle of the Green Arrow. 
I mean, is this not the best 

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case scenario for year to begin 
to Mike, what's the time he did?

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That think that's the biggest 
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back, you know, as a media 
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this. 
Exactly what Indiana wanted here

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but this higher, they wanted to 
get somebody who bought into the

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culture bought into the program.
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guys they had. 
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difference from this roster last
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excited about. 
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come together, seeing what 
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obviously new guys come in and 
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But I think the success of this 
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over how much did the good guys 
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Prove, how much better are they 
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How much more they buying in, 
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excited. 
Figure out later today, and so 

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much about the end of the 
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really what has created as much 
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I mean, yes, obviously had 
getting people back and bring a 

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new faces in. 
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team showed in the Big Ten 
Tournament, especially, and that

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spark that, I think people have 
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on for several years. 
Now it just it suddenly looked 

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like it, materialized. 
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season, you watch some of those 
early year games and is kind of 

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like a bunch of guys, kind of 
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first-year roster. 
You know how you don't really 

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know how to play together and 
then you must, but you go to the

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end of the year, you go to those
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that. 
Michigan that, you know, last 10

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minutes of that Michigan game 
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Illinois. 
Game that team finely, meshed 

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and it looked like it was more 
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They knew what to get from each 
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When and when a Team figures 
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they're on, figuring out in 
March is key but also figuring 

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out in general is Great recipe 
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I think that's what Indiana is 
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see that with a lot of teams, I 
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in the national title game that 
team looked completely lost for 

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half the season. 
It took them a while to really 

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put the pieces together. 
Iowa State and Miami who both 

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They didn't have great regular 
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it in the field. 
Mara our Miami barely made it 

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into the field but they put it 
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Now obviously the next step is 
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longer? 
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everybody's really excited about
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Steam because it their all the 
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And so, yeah, we're going to 
talk with the guys here in a 

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And just get a sense of what the
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as we get ready to do that. 
Just a reminder that we are here

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helping to support. 
Who's your ticket project? 

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If you're not familiar, you can 
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the website. 
They've got the placards out 

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here, alumni and fans donating 
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Get people who couldn't 
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games out to basketball games. 
It's an awesome. 

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For it that really started in 
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donate opportunity here today. 
It's switchyard. 

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A lot of people from taking 
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food and beverage sales, going 
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So we appreciate them being out 

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here for four hours and being a 
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And we enjoy being a part of it 
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Awesome, man, who's your Tinker 
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Obviously, such a cool 
organization. 

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You know, the reason I picked my
career path as because I saw 

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guys at Assembly Hall, doing 
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So the fact that we're giving 
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Any, that opportunity to go have

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Such a cool part of what, who's 
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excited to see what we can do 
today. 

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It's a great point. 
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And back here with our first 
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Gonzalez. 
Joining me, we got another cop 

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with us on the podcast, Miller 
back for a second season here in

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the cream and Crimson. 
Thanks for joining us. 

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How you doing? 
I'm doing. 

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Well, thanks for having me. 
Absolutely. 

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So let's first of all, I'm 
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What is the offseason life of an
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What have you been up to the 
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Well, you know, right after the 
season is about like mentally 

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and physically letting your body
recover You know, throughout the

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season, there's so many ups and 
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So to where you know, at the end
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take a press, you know, get away
from the game a little bit and, 

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you know, get your body right 
because there's so many, you 

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know, you put so many miles on 
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that you just have to recover 
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normal level. 
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rampant. 
It back up again and get the 

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body back, used to playing and 
jumping and running and 

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shooting, and all that stuff. 
So, you know, now we're starting

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workouts and they've been Really
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Okay, so galen's going to ask 
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I'm going to ask a more 
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You got a dog this officer, how 
house the dogs dad life treating

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you. 
This is a Gracie Barra this. 

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Yes. 
What's it been like? 

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I mean puppy life. 
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Father's Day is tomorrow. 
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I don't think she knows what 
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myself to something. 
But now it's been good. 

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It's something that I wanted to 
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season was kind of a perfect 
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something. 
I don't really have many hobbies

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besides basketball. 
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outside the game to, you know, 
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guess, but it's been great. 
It's been very good. 

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I gotta say intelligent move not
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season. 
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You need all the extra time. 
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to speed as just like a 
functioning member of society. 

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Absolutely Believe me, 
absolutely. 

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For sure one of the Hobbies you 
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really impressive through your 
first year. 

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I mean, you're very active on 
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terms of just creating content 
in general. 

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Where did that come from with 
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I don't know. 
I just, I've always felt 

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comfortable in front of the 
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know, with n IL and stuff, you 
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gave me a just an excuse to kind
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without the intent to make any 
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It was just, I just think it's 
something that people. 

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Don't see often and you know, I 
want to give people the, you 

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know, some insight into, you 
know, what, it's like to you 

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know, be you know me or be in a 
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what we do, what we kind of 
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stuff like that. 
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different perspective to where, 
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you don't really see the 
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And so it's that stuff that I 
think it's really interesting 

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and kind of makes it makes up 
who we are as people and then 

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players as well. 
So it's been fun and, you know, 

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there's there's a lot of 
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towards it, but at the end of 
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me and I like it, I do it. 
How do you develop that? 

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I mean, where that come from. 
Just pick up, what Go Pro one 

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day and say go for it? 
No, I had no idea. 

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Just did a start with my phone. 
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you know, I was like, you know, 
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locker room. 
It's like, hey guys, like just 

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like I'm going to be filming 
some stuff like just doing this 

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for like this video. 
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right. 
And it was kind of information 

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loves the yeah yeah it was weird
for me at first because I was a 

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very comfortable like doing it 
around everybody else. 

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But then at the end of the day, 
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started to kind of be be more 
fun and everybody got involved 

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with it. 
So it's been good though. 

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So good, what you know, as 
you've as you thought about 

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like, what are you trying to 
document? 

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I know you want to get behind 
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what do you feel like people 
need to know about the 

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day-to-day that they don't 
already? 

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Dino that they're not getting 
through like reading articles or

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watching interviews. 
Yeah, I just think that the, the

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dynamic between everybody on the
team. 

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It's something that, you know, 
you don't see often and you 

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don't see, you know, in in 
different different teams around

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the country and stuff. 
You know, you see some 

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interviews and stuff here and 
there, but it doesn't really 

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like I let you into the life and
into the mind of like, you know,

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player and a teammate. 
And, you know, let somebody 

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really open up there's a 
mentality to this and some 

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people, Just want to document 
things from their perspective. 

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If you're pretty interactive on 
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last week? 
Or a few weeks ago, you had 

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gotten invited on social to go 
to a graduation party, ever some

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Bloomington North student and 
you showed up and so like how 

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did what led to that and what 
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Like for you? 
Well yeah I got a I got a flurry

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of you know DMS on Instagram 
about about just coming to a 

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grad Party come with a grand 
Party come to grab party and 

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they all have like the Flyer and
stuff. 

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And so I told myself I was like,
all right, I'm not doing 

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anything today. 
If it's over 15 minutes, I'm not

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going but if it is if it's under
I'm going and it was like 

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twelve. 
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and I just responded and I drove
up and just literally walked up.

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I had no idea who they were and 
so but end up being a really fun

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and a good time. 
But the only problem was is that

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I got probably another 30 
messages about other grad 

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parties to go to. 
So I couldn't, I feel bad. 

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I couldn't go to all of them, 
but You know, it was fun. 

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Yeah. 
And you talk about a little bit 

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ago about those highs and lows 
right for social media. 

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Obviously the graduation party 
being a high, but in season, 

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when things aren't looking. 
So great, there's a lot of lows 

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when you put yourself out there 
that much, just about that 

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mentality, what kind of mindset 
to you have to have midseason 

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when you're like, okay, I still 
want to create content but man, 

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sometimes that negative feedback
can be, you know. 

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Well, there's there's definitely
a balance to it. 

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And so, during the season two, 
what I do is I just I really am.

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Now I'm not focused on it at 
all. 

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I'm what I do is kind of 
front-load and in terms of, you 

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know, filming and that that type
of deal. 

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So, you know, during the season 
is I'm really hands off, you 

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know? 
But at the same time, you know, 

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there are, you know, moments 
where you know, you're thinking 

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yourself like all like, I should
probably, you know, what are 

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people going to think but then, 
you know, I there have been 

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those thoughts but but they 
always you know, subside because

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at the end of the day it's like 
we practice, you know. 

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During the season for hours on, 
on, on a day. 

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What are you going to do for the
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the day? 
Just like sit in your seat, just

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sitting there staring at the 
wall. 

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It's like, no, no one's going to
do that. 

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So, you know, it's not for me to
do, it's fun for me. 

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And you know, at the end of the 
day I like doing it. 

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I'm going to keep doing it. 
You're entering your fifth year 

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as a college, basketball player.
How is your perspective on being

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a college basketball player 
changed from your freshman year?

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Year to now. 
And what's your, what's your 

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mentality on it? 
Coming into, you know, what 

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would I guess for your final 
season man? 

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It's it's wild because because 
as I've always had a connection 

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Indiana from, you know, 
beginning my freshman year 

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because it was the first game, 
the first Big Ten game I ever 

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played, was at Indiana. 
It was the first game I started 

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to as a freshman and it was 
surreal and and I, you know it 

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that was the moment I fell in 
love with like Indiana 

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basketball and in the Fans and 
Assembly Hall and all of it. 

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And it was it was so loud. 
I could remember today. 

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I couldn't hear myself think. 
And, you know, I remember 

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leaving, you know, that plate 
assembly and just thinking like,

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wow. 
Like I would like to play their 

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little more and, you know, but 
you know, my mentality is a 

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freshman, it's just, you know, 
play as hard as you can and just

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learn and learn, and learn, and 
get better. 

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And, you know, now it's about Do
with it, especially with the 

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team we have now coming back. 
You know, I've got a perspective

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of, you know, for years under my
belt of being on a team and then

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being on it, you know, another 
team and seeing how different 

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things work to where, you know, 
at the end of the day, it's 

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about winning and it's about 
winning a Big, Ten title and a 

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national title and that's it. 
And that's in. 

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However, however I can help is, 
is my goal really, and that 

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leadership mindset. 
You kind of speak on a little 

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bit is certainly something. 
You're going to be taking up 

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this This year, what kind of 
prep work if you done this 

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offseason kind of getting ready 
at lead. 

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A lot of team with a lot of 
younger guys who might not have 

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as much college basketball 
experience, as you? 

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Yeah, well, a lot of its, you 
know, college is, you know, 

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there is a transition, but, you 
know, the games, the games, are 

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you all practices are so hard in
terms of, you know, when we play

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against each other and where we 
compete that, you know, you 

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know, the younger guys are in 
the freshmen are going to be 

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ready in terms of the basketball
in terms of Playing and 

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guarding, and all that stuff, 
just because they've been 

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playing against us for, you 
know, a couple months but the 

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you know, the biggest thing is 
learning when you know what 

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coach what he wants, you know, 
them to do terms of Defense in 

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terms of offense, in terms of, 
you know, positioning talking 

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habits. 
That's the stuff that, you know,

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will separate. 
I think, you know, young, you 

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know, freshmen who are good to, 
you know, Young The Freshmen who

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don't play like freshmen that 
makes sense. 

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Is there something you're most 
excited about for this upcoming?

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I mean obviously you're trying 
to compete for a Big Ten title 

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but is there something about the
team in particular? 

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That's got you the most Juiced 
right at this point. 

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I you know, I'm not sure. 
I think I'm really excited for a

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non-conference schedule. 
I think it's wild noncom. 

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Yeah. 
So I think that's going to be 

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something that's really fun and 
you know there's still some 

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games up in the air but that's 
something that there were were 

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clearly you know, a team that I 
want to play and no, we're not, 

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as you know, it's you as people 
have seen, you know, we're not 

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going to back down from any 
challenges and so you know it's 

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going to be exciting to get that
going. 

445
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Well, I know a lot of people 
looking forward to it. 

446
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,200
I'm looking forward to seeing 
you back on the court. 

447
00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:20,800
We really appreciate you taking 
the time to talk with us today 

448
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,700
and wish you the best of luck 
throughout. 

449
00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:27,200
Not just dog fatherhood but also
the rest of the offseason at 

450
00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,200
Leading Edge of the Year. 
Thank you very much, I 

451
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,100
appreciate it. 
Thank you very much. 

452
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,400
Mister cop everybody joining us 
on the podcast. 

453
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,800
We'll be back in just a minute 
with our next guest here at 

454
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,800
switchyard Brewing Company. 
Stick with us. 

455
00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:49,200
All right, back here at 
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456
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Hoosier ticket project. 

457
00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:53,900
Hopefully you had a chance to 
join us. 

458
00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:55,300
If you're listening to this, 
after the fact. 

459
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:57,200
Thank you. 
Dave, we got Jordan Geronimo 

460
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,600
joining us here on this segment 
of the pot. 

461
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,800
Jordan, get a happy from this 
Earth. 

462
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,500
Are you doing here? 
And when you doing really good, 

463
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:05,300
welcome back. 
Thank you, hello. 

464
00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:10,300
So let's talk a little bit about
your I guess. 

465
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200
The, the way that the season 
ended off for you and then the, 

466
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,900
the offseason for you. 
So, you know, there's a little 

467
00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:19,300
bit of an up and down year, but 
you had a really strong finish. 

468
00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,400
You had the injury in the Big 
Ten Tournament. 

469
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,700
Your will, your overall just 
feelings and Impressions coming 

470
00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,200
off of this year? 
And you know, what did you feel 

471
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,900
like you were able to accomplish
on your list of things that you 

472
00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:33,400
wanted to get done? 
Ending the season last year? 

473
00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:36,600
My pound. 
My compass was like, really, I 

474
00:22:36,608 --> 00:22:38,600
like an all-time high. 
I guess I would say just, you 

475
00:22:38,608 --> 00:22:43,000
know, being able to help my And 
however I can that's always a 

476
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,600
great feeling and so just being 
able to end the season knowing 

477
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:53,300
that I helped my team you know 
just go farther it's a great 

478
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:56,300
feeling you don't mean like 
making a run in the in the Big 

479
00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:59,500
Ten tournament and be able to 
play in March Madness like it's 

480
00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:03,500
a feeling that the I used to 
like feel myself to just, you 

481
00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:06,300
know, keep working out in the 
summer because you know, I don't

482
00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,000
be back there. 
On me back, making it runs in a 

483
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,400
tournament stuff. 
So It's a great feeling so I'm 

484
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,500
just trying to use that to, you 
know, motivate me to keep being 

485
00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:15,900
better. 
You could really see the 

486
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,500
confidence growing you there 
towards the end of the season. 

487
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,200
We what, how does that feel for 
somebody? 

488
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,400
And I've had this experience 
myself, I think in the past 

489
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,600
where it's like, you're not 
feeling confident, you're 

490
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,700
questioning what you're doing, 
as a basketball player on a big 

491
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:31,400
stage constantly. 
Like what does that mentality? 

492
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,700
Like, when you suddenly start to
feel like the pieces are coming 

493
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:36,300
together. 
If it was great, it was amazing.

494
00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:38,200
I mean, I got my teammates in 
the cooking stuff. 

495
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,100
Always, you know, just pushing a
positive. 

496
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Common storage me. 
You know, I mean, it's it's a 

497
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,400
great feeling when I have, you 
know, a program like it's beyond

498
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,300
my back to, you know, help me do
good. 

499
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:53,100
So, as far as summer workouts 
go, I think a lot of people, you

500
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,300
know are confused about what is 
different from the summer versus

501
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:59,000
the season. 
When does that change, I guess 

502
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,500
for you? 
What's been the biggest thing 

503
00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:02,600
this Summer that you guys have 
been working on you individually

504
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,400
a bit working on that. 
You're excited to implement in 

505
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,800
your game next season? 
Yep. 

506
00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:09,500
Um, just working on, like my 
guard skills really because, you

507
00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:13,800
know, So I guess it was knowing 
that I'm trying to be a 32 this 

508
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,000
year when I play. 
So I can expand my role as a 

509
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,300
player, as a basketball player 
and this offseason I'm just 

510
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:25,800
working on tying ago, my handle 
reading situations, you know, 

511
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,700
which I'm going to be in because
I'm be playing to three and 

512
00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:30,400
that's really all. 
I'm kind of trying to work on. 

513
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,700
Of course, my jump shot, not 
that kind of stuff. 

514
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:36,400
But um, Yeah, that's actually 
much. 

515
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,900
So in the offseason when you're 
trying to emphasize those sorts 

516
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,300
of things and you working on 
your game on your own like how 

517
00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:46,700
do you measure your own progress
internally, you know who are you

518
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,600
relying on to try to give you 
the feedback that you feel like 

519
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,200
you need to take that next step.
Um I'm sorry to like watch like 

520
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,600
a lot of film just a practice of
with my coach coach Kenya which 

521
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,000
answer me and him be watching 
film of you know the practices 

522
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,100
that we had and like I'm 
learning anything. 

523
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,300
I used to do that. 
I shouldn't be doing is learning

524
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:11,800
about the new, I guess. 
Role as a guard as a three-man 

525
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,400
just him teaching me and stuff 
like that. 

526
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800
And just showing me like, how do
you know do certain things? 

527
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,600
As a guard is really helpful and
I keep that as like, you know, I

528
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:26,000
guess, As like a reminder, like 
what happened next time. 

529
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800
So I don't do this and do this 
yummy? 

530
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,600
Yeah. 
So now it's always an 

531
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600
interesting process try. 
And I know we do this as like 

532
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,200
broadcasters, even like you got 
to go back and watch what you're

533
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,600
doing and what you did wrong. 
It's always interesting trying 

534
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600
to implement that because you 
get, you have to think about it.

535
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,300
But you also don't have time to 
think about that. 

536
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:46,600
It has to be this like natural 
organic thing that just occurs. 

537
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,300
Exactly. 
And that is a big transition for

538
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:50,900
a lot of people. 
I think, especially in 

539
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:52,300
athletics. 
It's because there's just 

540
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,100
there's so much of it just has 
to become ingrained in your 

541
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,100
mentality. 
All right, what? 

542
00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:01,200
So outside of the basketball, 
like what do you do in the 

543
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,300
offseason for fun? 
Like, what have you been doing 

544
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:06,500
to try to just kind of as Miller
was saying, kind of reset, going

545
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:10,800
into this next year. 
Um, look at mother said, I don't

546
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,500
have a lot of hobbies, so I will
see, just got an Xbox, like, a 

547
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,700
couple months ago. 
So I've gone the video game a 

548
00:26:17,708 --> 00:26:19,200
lot. 
What do you been playing lately?

549
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:22,400
I put about a fortnight nice 
guy. 

550
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Trash it for a night but it's 
fun. 

551
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:31,500
I play a lot of war zone and 
hopefully I'm trying to get 

552
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:34,100
Smash Bros because Smash Bros is
my favorite favorite game. 

553
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,600
Growing up the song? 
Yeah just saw no 2K notes. 

554
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,900
Okay because when I was younger,
I see rage a lot actually engage

555
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:43,000
Roxy. 
Okay, that's fair. 

556
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,100
That's gonna get that game. 
That's awesome girl. 

557
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:49,400
What's what? 
If I could ask this JG a win? 

558
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,500
Did it kind of hit you seeing 
the team? 

559
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:53,800
You guys? 
As had last year. 

560
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,600
When did it hit you? 
When you realize the potential 

561
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,300
this team would have this coming
year? 

562
00:26:58,300 --> 00:26:59,800
Was it? 
When Ray said he was coming 

563
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,300
back, was it when TJ D said he 
was coming back when it was all 

564
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,000
the changes going on in the Big 
10. 

565
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,600
When did you guys sit back and 
say like oh my gosh, we're going

566
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,000
to be one of the better teams in
the Big Ten next year. 

567
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:14,100
That's a good question. 
I mean once I mean, I guess when

568
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:16,100
you trace came back which was 
like the final piece of the you 

569
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,300
know, the puzzle we had like I 
feel like we was going to be a 

570
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:23,400
really dangerous team, you know?
I mean like we play a lot of 

571
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,200
pick up this team and like just 
seeing a play, you know, I feel 

572
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,100
like the potential we have is 
going to be crazy like Are you 

573
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,200
have like that much to say about
it? 

574
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
But yeah like he's not nice to 
say you know? 

575
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,500
I mean like you guys are see 
later on in the future during 

576
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:42,500
the season but this team is 
really talented and we can do a 

577
00:27:42,508 --> 00:27:44,800
lot of good things. 
Well, there's obviously a lot of

578
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,300
excitement about the team right 
now. 

579
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:49,900
And it's interesting because, 
you know, is Miller talked about

580
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
experiencing the Assembly Hall 
crowd for the first time, as 

581
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,700
somebody playing for a different
team and then coming in and 

582
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:59,100
being a part of that. 
You've seen a lot of basketball 

583
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,700
in your lifetime, and you 
playing a lot of different 

584
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:01,700
venues. 
Like, what? 

585
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,300
What's In your impression. 
Over the first few years here 

586
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:08,600
your career of playing an 
assembly hall man with a 

587
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,100
recorder playing you know I mean
like me like I'm like a battery 

588
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,700
when I play, you know me like I 
love the energy, I get from the 

589
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,700
crowd, you know, I mean like I 
feed off the energy from the 

590
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,600
crowd and when you have all 
these guys you know roaring and 

591
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,900
cheering for, you got change for
me. 

592
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,300
It gives me that extra boost to 
do. 

593
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:25,800
You know what I got to do on the
court. 

594
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,700
So I love playing on the court. 
It's is there anywhere that 

595
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:32,000
you've played elsewhere, that 
has come close to Assembly Hall?

596
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:35,400
No, not even close. 
Do you have a different venue 

597
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,100
that you love to go visit even 
because it's just fun to play 

598
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:46,800
in, um, Such a special night 
special. 

599
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,100
It's an interesting Arena 
because it's like sunken. 

600
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,300
Yeah, everybody's kind of on top
of you and it's really bright 

601
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:08,100
and those fans get into it. 
I've broadcast a couple of games

602
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:09,300
there. 
It's like it's a different kind 

603
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,600
of environment unless you're a 
lot of players like Minnesota 

604
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200
too, because it's the elevator 
core and I'm like that, I'm 

605
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,300
getting like it because like I 
feel like really self-conscious 

606
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:18,600
when I was on the edge. 
Yeah. 

607
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,800
I don't like that. 
I've hated that thing for years.

608
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,000
It's awful. 
I'm glad you feel this. 

609
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,300
A what I am curious just in 
general, I know because you're 

610
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,900
growing like it's clear your 
game has grown so much. 

611
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,600
From when you first got here, is
there a player at the NBA level 

612
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,300
that you're trying to pattern 
yourself after I get is there 

613
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:37,300
some or pieces of individual 
players games that you're like 

614
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,400
would say that's what I would 
like to be or that's what I'm 

615
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:45,600
growing towards. 
Um I guess I would say like, 

616
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,100
when I was like in high school 
and like, coming out high school

617
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,500
and like, even like in beginning
of my freshman season and stuff.

618
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,600
Even now, actually, I was 
looking at DeAndre Hunter, he 

619
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,900
graduated from UVA play for 
Atlanta, Hawks. 

620
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:03,900
I just love this game, you know?
I mean I feel like the stuff 

621
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,200
that he's doing at the NBA level
was like a something that I can 

622
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,800
do if I really just put myself 
in that position. 

623
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,400
So I like his game a lot. 
So I'm watching a lot. 

624
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,400
He was a tremendous guy to wash 
when he was at UVA. 

625
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,600
Absolutely. 
And yeah. 

626
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,000
That's that's a good. 
That's a good shout. 

627
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600
I like that. 
Well Jordan really appreciate 

628
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,300
you taking the time to join us. 
Always a pleasure to talk with 

629
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,100
you and we wish you the best of 
luck for the rest of the 

630
00:30:25,108 --> 00:30:26,500
offseason. 
Thank you next year. 

631
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,300
Thanks, Jordan Geronimo, ladies 
and gentlemen. 

632
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,100
We'll take another short break. 
We'll be back with our final 

633
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,700
guest of the podcast, stick with
us. 

634
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:43,200
All right, back here, 
switchyard, our final player 

635
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,100
guest of the day. 
The talent Wrangler himself 

636
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,100
here. 
Anthony Leo, appreciate you 

637
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,800
joining us, Anthony. 
Thanks for getting all of us 

638
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,700
together and no problem. 
So first of all did you try the 

639
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,400
breakfast? 
Pizza. 

640
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,400
Yeah I did. 
That's crazy. 

641
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,900
There's really not so it's 
awesome. 

642
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:59,200
I don't even really like 
breakfast pizza and I was like 

643
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,900
that. 
Be one of the top five pizzas 

644
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:02,600
I've ever had. 
So, wow. 

645
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,500
I know a lot of pizzas don't 
have a lot of flowers. 

646
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,000
So, Anthony. 
Let's first of all, you tweet a 

647
00:31:10,008 --> 00:31:13,200
lot about Camp here recently. 
So how's that been going? 

648
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,000
What's that experience? 
Been like there's awesome, we 

649
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
just got through the first 
session, there's another session

650
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,100
next week, but it's been really 
good to just be able to interact

651
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:24,400
with the kids and hang out with 
the kids because I remember when

652
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,500
I was in the same position, they
were at Camp, trying to compete 

653
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,300
and press people. 
When game Ames all the type of 

654
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:34,000
stuff and just have fun. 
So it's it's been really fun but

655
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,100
it's made for some really long 
long days because we we lived 

656
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:40,600
before it and then there's camp 
all day and then we have 

657
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,200
practice after it. 
So it's it makes for a long days

658
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,500
but I just I mean it's honestly 
so worth it because I the kids 

659
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:48,800
are just so happy so I just try 
to keep getting it. 

660
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Yeah. 
It makes such a great 

661
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,600
impression. 
I mean I remember being very 

662
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,900
young and being a camps like 
that and it's it's weird as a 

663
00:31:55,908 --> 00:31:58,600
kid and I'm sure you had the 
same experience because you know

664
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,200
you see these guys on Floor and 
stands or on TV and it's almost 

665
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400
like they're not real and then 
boom. 

666
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,200
It's like well they're standing 
three feet in front of you, tell

667
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,500
me how to dribble a basketball. 
Now, you're that guy and you 

668
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,600
know that what is that like that
transition is got to be just 

669
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000
kind of weird if you sit back 
and think about it for a little.

670
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,800
Yeah. 
Very I like as they're doing the

671
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,100
drills. 
I'm remembering like I was in 

672
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,800
the same spot so that's why when
I'm interacting with the mice 

673
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,600
try to be as normal as I am as I
can and just show them like 

674
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,800
we're not anything crazy 
special. 

675
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,200
We're just normal guys. 
That work hard and I try to make

676
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,400
them have fun. 
What's, what is the experience, 

677
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,400
like, especially with those 
kids, you talked about your 

678
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,700
experience? 
You had how much more does that?

679
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,200
Give that experience to the 
camps? 

680
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,900
And just remembering that you 
were once in that position? 

681
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,300
And we're going to know 
sometimes. 

682
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,400
A lot of guys can see that. 
That's kind of like a, this 

683
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,700
gonna be another long one. 
But like, do you try to re 

684
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,000
encourage them? 
Be like, no guys, this is a 

685
00:32:51,008 --> 00:32:53,100
legit thing. 
Like, these kids were me one day

686
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,100
and now I'm here to try to 
encourage them that way. 

687
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,500
Yeah, 100%. 
And I try to lead with my 

688
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,700
actions in the way that I'm 20 
kids and I think it makes my 

689
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,500
teammates a little more 
comfortable to go out there and 

690
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:05,900
just be goofy with the kids 
because that's what they want to

691
00:33:05,908 --> 00:33:08,100
see. 
So and as for you you know these

692
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,400
guys are just here for the 
summer away from home. 

693
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,000
You're not away from home, 
you're here. 

694
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,100
What's your summer in 
Bloomington? 

695
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,900
Look like what do you hang out 
with high school, buddies? 

696
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:17,300
Do you still just stick around? 
I you. 

697
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:21,200
What do you do? 
Little bit of both always get my

698
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,500
basketball stuff, done each day 
but then I'll either go to the 

699
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:28,800
lake or I've been playing a lot 
of Uecker and cornholes so it's 

700
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,500
just you might Be from Indiana 
said corn hole. 

701
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,400
So that was the start. 
There was what did it for me? 

702
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,700
That's hilarious. 
You know, so what we ask the 

703
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:44,000
other two guys, like, what's 
been your offseason Focus as as 

704
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800
far as development and training 
and practices concerned mostly 

705
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
just being able to handle the 
ball, more comfort with the ball

706
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,300
and creating stuff on my own as 
as we've gone through practicing

707
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:57,900
stuff, I've I've been playing a 
lot of point guard right now 

708
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,100
because some guys aren't like 
Obviously trays out right now, 

709
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:04,300
stuff like that. 
So I've been playing point guard

710
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:07,200
and I think it's helped me a lot
with, with my ball handling, 

711
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,400
stuff like that. 
And there's a mall. 

712
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,100
So when we scrimmage, my team is
me and the Freshman. 

713
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:15,500
So it's, it's actually been such
a blessing because it's making 

714
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,800
me so much better as a leader 
and as a competitor because I'm 

715
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,900
I got, you know, get them up to 
speed. 

716
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,600
So we were able to compete with 
the guys. 

717
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,800
So it's been fun and I've just 
been really try to improve my 

718
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,199
ball handling stuff like that. 
How are those younger guys 

719
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,600
coming along and which one? 
Have you been most impressed 

720
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,199
with so far getting play with 
them every day? 

721
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
They're coming along really well
as much as you could expect for 

722
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,600
freshman, I mean, we're only in 
week two. 

723
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,000
So there they got a lot to learn
but they're committed and they 

724
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,600
got their minds set on the right
thing. 

725
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,800
So they're definitely on the 
right path. 

726
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,300
But I think I'd probably say I'm
most most impressed so far with 

727
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:52,199
Malik do to Beast. 
He's an animal really. 

728
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,699
I mean, the dude is strong, very
strong. 

729
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,400
And I've just been really 
impressed with him so far, one 

730
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,500
of the big things we know. 
You know, for years and years 

731
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,200
now is culture and, you know, 
people being on the same page 

732
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,700
with each other. 
Like from that perspective, how 

733
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:10,000
is this new group coming in and 
how they fit into the overall 

734
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,100
culture, the team that they're 
fitting in? 

735
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,600
Really well, I mean, we set, you
know, we kind of set a standard 

736
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,100
last year and then we talked 
during this offseason while 

737
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,700
there was a lot of moving pieces
with the groups that the group 

738
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:23,400
that was sticking around and we 
kind of you know, like 

739
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
established ourselves as what we
want to be and our identity. 

740
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800
So when the freshmen come in and
it's I mean they really don't 

741
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,900
have a choice at that point. 
Point. 

742
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,400
If everyone else is doing one 
certain thing doing one certain 

743
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,100
thing a certain way they have 
to, or else they're not going to

744
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,800
be able to make things work. 
So they're they're coming along 

745
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000
well and they're buying into it 
and I think it's going to come 

746
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,700
along. 
Well, some of that was really 

747
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:44,700
unique with you guys last year, 
especially towards the end of 

748
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:45,900
the year. 
You guys looked like you were 

749
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:47,700
having more fun playing 
together. 

750
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,500
How much of that is just a 
difference in like, you 

751
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,800
should've said culture, but how 
much of that is just like 

752
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,800
practicing having fun together, 
you know, hanging out having fun

753
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,600
together, playing games and 
having fun together, where does 

754
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,800
it? 
Humming most important. 

755
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000
And where do you guys kind of 
learn that does is it a natural 

756
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,700
thing? 
Is it like a hey, we're going to

757
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:07,300
focus more on this. 
What changed with that? 

758
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Honestly, it comes pretty 
naturally coach woods and always

759
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,700
talks about it in practice 
because we are our practices are

760
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:16,900
incredibly like competitive and 
a lot of smack talk but a lot of

761
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,300
competition at the same time. 
And guys are really competing 

762
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:21,900
and Coach woods and I says 
that's what it should be like 

763
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,700
because then once we get to 
games, you finally, get to take 

764
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:26,800
it out on somebody else, you 
know, you're beat yourselves up 

765
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,500
all week, but then one day you 
get to play against someone. 

766
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:31,800
Else and take it out on them. 
That's where the fun comes from.

767
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,500
So, I think that a lot of guys 
are noticing that, and that's 

768
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,600
kind of what people are, no sent
the end of the year and then you

769
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,500
get the momentum like we did at 
the end of the year. 

770
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,600
It just makes things a lot more 
fun, he talks about smack, I got

771
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,900
to ask that one, I got two down.
Who's cues? 

772
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:45,100
Running their mouth and 
practice. 

773
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,500
Who talks the most smack? 
To be honest, it might be me. 

774
00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:05,000
I'm probably probably top to 
that's Jordan, just gave the 

775
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,500
thumbs up on that before. 
What have you ever met anybody? 

776
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:13,100
With the same Vibe, the coach 
Woodson has around him like from

777
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,800
the outside. 
He just he's got this like cool 

778
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,300
factor that you just don't see 
in a lot of human beings. 

779
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,200
Let alone like people. 
Position. 

780
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Like like, what's that? 
Like being being around it all 

781
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,600
the time? 
Yeah, he's one of a kind. 

782
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,300
I mean, really, he truly is and 
like it's it's been amazing just

783
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:31,700
to get to know him, get closer 
with him because he truly loves 

784
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:34,200
all of us. 
And it's just it's, he's 

785
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,400
definitely one of a kind just 
because the way he carries 

786
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,100
himself and he he tells us all 
the time, but people don't 

787
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,500
realize that he is, he's 
literally the coach of Indiana 

788
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:47,000
just for Indiana like it. 
None of it is for his own good, 

789
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,800
not like money. 
All that type of stuff. 

790
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,900
He doesn't need any That either 
he's just here to win and build 

791
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:55,100
a culture and he treats us like 
his sons and it's he's one of a 

792
00:37:55,107 --> 00:37:57,200
kind of, for sure. 
So he talked about building that

793
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,700
culture. 
Obviously Woodson has a lot of 

794
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:01,300
history with this school, how 
much of that plays into it 

795
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,200
versus? 
How much of it is where he wants

796
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,400
to go? 
Where he wants to see this 

797
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,000
program. 
Go next a little bit of both. 

798
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,400
I mean, he obviously knows what 
it takes to be successful and he

799
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,900
obviously was coached by a 
pretty good coach. 

800
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:16,900
So, I mean, we, I think, at 
least, once every practice we 

801
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:20,200
stop and cook Hall and he points
up at the Big Ten, The Big Ten 

802
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,300
banners in the national 
championship game and she just 

803
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,200
talks about like, that's what 
we're working for. 

804
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,700
And I honestly think you might 
just said every day, so it's 

805
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:30,700
just being consistent with that.
And the way that we work, always

806
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:32,700
backs up what he wants us to 
accomplish. 

807
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000
We're obviously we're here with 
who's your ticket project, who's

808
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,300
doing their dine and donate and 
you from here and like do you 

809
00:38:38,308 --> 00:38:43,700
have a favorite game that you 
attended or watch with IU 

810
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,500
basketball when you were 
younger? 

811
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,200
Anything sticks out in your mind
or just an experience innocent 

812
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,100
with all that you've had not 
necessarily, I mean, 

813
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,400
unfortunately wasn't at the wash
shot game because I think I was 

814
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,500
at my own game as my important. 
Yeah. 

815
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:02,700
But that to, that guy was at 
that game. 

816
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:04,400
My game was the night of my 
bachelor party, really? 

817
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,300
Yeah. 
That was that was pretty wildly.

818
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:07,800
Very good. 
Now, all the way around. 

819
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,600
That's a good time to know, 
honestly. 

820
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Not, there's not really a game 
that sticks out to me. 

821
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,300
It's just kind of culmination of
everything, just being around 

822
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:17,400
there. 
Yeah, but I'd say one that was 

823
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,000
pretty cool was I was ER crew 
and Coach Knight came back in a 

824
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,300
bunch of his former players came
back and I was really cool just 

825
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:26,300
to see the way everybody came 
together like that. 

826
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:28,600
So I know we were talking a 
little bit with Miller about 

827
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,200
just how loud Assembly Hall. 
Gets in your few years here at 

828
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,100
IU. 
What is Mike? 

829
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,000
I'm going to take out Purdue 
guys because I feel like that's 

830
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,400
the go-ahead favorite. 
So what's the loudest and most 

831
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,600
fun environment you've got to 
play in front of it or something

832
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,200
whole besides Purdue besides 
Purdue That's tough. 

833
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,100
You can get back to Purdue game 
Griffin. 

834
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,400
What are you doing? 
Nothing, obviously, obviously 

835
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,500
that, but they all have steak. 
Amos was a good one too. 

836
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,100
The energy is crazy there so I 
probably say that awesome. 

837
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,100
Yeah, it's it's fun. 
It's been fun as somebody's been

838
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,400
to a lot of games with the time 
like watching it slowly ramp 

839
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,600
back up again I think that's 
really exciting to see ya. 

840
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:06,100
So what's the rest of the summer
look like for you? 

841
00:40:06,107 --> 00:40:09,800
Got Camp next week, obviously, 
and you got some stuff to work 

842
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,500
on but then, you know, as the, 
this is always a weird time 

843
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,300
because I Some of the attention 
shifts to like football practice

844
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:18,100
and people are paying attention 
that you guys are kind of under 

845
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,600
the radar until you get to, you 
know, Hoosier hysteria at the 

846
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,400
beginning of October. 
So what do you have to do now, 

847
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,100
what's the checklist between now
and then just keep on getting 

848
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,600
better every day working as hard
as we can every day as a team 

849
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,900
and just continuing to grow and 
get ready. 

850
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,300
But I think the most important 
thing for us is just going to be

851
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:40,500
to not let any of the noise or 
the hype that we might get in 

852
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,400
the preseason. 
You know, kind of get to our 

853
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,600
heads case, we having a 
conversation, anything yet as a 

854
00:40:44,607 --> 00:40:47,300
team and people are saying we 
could be this and we could be 

855
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,900
that. 
But if we're not working for 

856
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,200
right now, I'm just putting our 
heads down and grinding then 

857
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:53,500
it's not going to come to 
fruition. 

858
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,100
So I'd say that's probably the 
most important part and then 

859
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,100
just take care of academics and 
all that type of stuff. 

860
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,100
Awesome. 
Well we really appreciate you 

861
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,500
taking the time to join us 
today. 

862
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:06,300
It's been a lot of fun and we 
appreciate obviously Miller and 

863
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,000
Jordan joining us as well, but 
Anthony Leal here on the podcast

864
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,200
with this. 
Thank you so much. 

865
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,500
Well, we're going to go ahead 
and wrap up ourselves here 

866
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,100
Griffin. 
Any final thoughts before we 

867
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,200
wrap up. 
Hey, you know, we got three 

868
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200
great guys right there, I think 
IU basketball is in good hands 

869
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,300
for a couple years to come. 
And got a sighting, you're 

870
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:29,600
coming out. 
That's gonna be fun. 

871
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:33,000
It is the, the vibe is palpable 
and it really is. 

872
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,400
It's one of those where I don't 
know if we've quite had the vibe

873
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,500
around IU basketball like this 
for quite a while. 

874
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:41,600
So I'm excited to see what 
happens with it all and looking 

875
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,400
forward to getting a chance to 
talk about it. 

876
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,800
So just a reminder that we will 
be podcasting pretty regularly 

877
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,700
starting in August with football
and then we got basketball 

878
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:53,800
coming in right after that. 
So we'll be talking about all 

879
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,700
these things. 
You can catch Griffin on 

880
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,900
Louisville television. 
As he'll be down there, W drb, 

881
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,900
right? 
Already doing this stuff. 

882
00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:04,700
Part-time would be down there 
full time starting what July 

883
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:06,500
1st? 
All right, I go into H. 

884
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:09,000
Like, I click it. 
I get to clock in and two hours.

885
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,900
So, he took some time out of the
office to help out with this, 

886
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:15,100
but we will look forward. 
Chatting with you all of course,

887
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,500
be sure to check out assembly 
call as they'll be covering 

888
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,500
after every game and assembly 
called radio. 

889
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:23,100
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normally Mondays and Thursdays 

890
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:24,400
throughout the course of the 
Season. 

891
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:27,500
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folks here at switchyard Brewing

892
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Company, always awesome, hosts, 
tremendous food, tremendous 

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drinks, and they just do an 
awesome job with everything. 

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We're look forward to coming out
and doing some live shows later 

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on this year. 
So be sure to join us for that. 

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And again, our thanks to Hoosier
ticket project for allowing us. 

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The tag along today and all the 
awesome work that they're doing 

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trying to get people out to 
Assembly Hall and Memorial 

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Stadium. 
That haven't had the chance to 

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be there before. 
So thanks again to Anthony Leo 

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to Jordan Geronimo to Miller 
cop. 

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Thanks to driven, Gonzales is 
our co-host. 

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I'm Galen klaviyo. 
Will join you folks soon? 

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Be sure to keep tuned in. 
Subscribe to us on iTunes. 

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We'd love it. 
We'll catch you folks on the 

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flip side. 
So long everybody bring back the

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Bison.
