1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,000 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Gayla Clavio joining you. It is the 18th of June, almost 4 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,680 summertime officially as we're heading towards the longest day 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,040 of the year, and we had some extra time today. 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,440 We had a meeting cancelled, so I put out a call for some 7 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,560 impromptu podcast questions and here we are. 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,760 So we're going to tackle a few items that you find folks out in 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,480 social media land have sent our direction. 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,200 Had these number of questions about IE football, had a couple 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 about basketball, had a lot of alcohol related questions. 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,400 I guess everybody's minds are on the weekend, which I'm with you 13 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,640 folks 100%. 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They're already off to a great 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:41,560 start. 3 ladies signed for 2026 and you know, folks in this era, 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,120 that's all happening at least in part through NIL. 63 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,520 You know, yes, vision, yes, the program's going in the right 64 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 location, but at the end of the day, you got to have the NIL 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 support. This event is an awesome way to 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,680 do that. Go to in 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,680 forindiana.com/volleyball and you'll see some registration 68 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,760 options for the event. On the 27th, $275 gets you on 69 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,640 the course for the golf event. 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All right, let's dive into the 84 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:05,000 questions that you had out there today and, you know, let me 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,760 tackle a couple of of larger scale questions, then we'll get 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,320 to some of the fun ones a little bit later on. 87 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,640 So first of all, a a good question here, I think from Adam 88 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,720 Cabe, who of course is, is a regular in terms of, of being on 89 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,640 our Twitter. And he asked a question which 90 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,480 I'm going to pop on screen here. Hopefully you can see this given 91 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,840 for those of you watching on the video. 92 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:30,680 By the way, if you want to watch these podcasts on video, most of 93 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,440 them are on Spotify on video as well as just audio. 94 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,440 If you want to listen that way, but also on the back home 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,360 network YouTube channel, join the over 6400 people that are on 96 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,120 that Channel and get not just this content, but all the back 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,600 home network content in visual form. 98 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,520 So. Adam asks. 99 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Given the successes at all previous stops for Coach Sig and 100 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 the addition of difference making players, what do you 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,240 think lends the national pundits assuming IU only gets 1:00 to 102 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,800 4:00? Wins next season vibes alone 103 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 won't do it, but this team really seems to be heading to 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,520 five to eight wins in my honest opinion. 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,520 So, Adam, it's a great question. And I think it's one of those 106 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,040 situations where we have to balance in the minds of the 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,000 pundits, in the minds of the people who are trying to keep 108 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,880 track of college football. Couple of things. 109 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,200 First of all, most punditry in college football is pretty 110 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,280 static in nature most of the time. 111 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,200 There's there's teams at the beginning of every year. 112 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,360 If you go back and go through the last 10 to 15 years, there's 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,760 teams that have amazing seasons that nobody saw coming. 114 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,560 And there's teams that have bad seasons who were supposed to be 115 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,720 good that no one saw that coming either, you know, And I think to 116 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,760 a large degree, even with all of the numbers that are in the game 117 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,000 right now and, and the way that that you can quantify a lot that 118 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,160 goes on with college football, realistically speaking, most of 119 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,560 the time you're going to be gravitating towards the programs 120 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,240 that have demonstrated success, particularly under coaches that 121 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,640 have demonstrated success there. So that's two strikes already 122 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,720 against IU, you know if. And, and I, I think this goes 123 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,880 both ways. I mean, everybody remembers how 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,240 high the pundits were, relatively speaking, on IU going 125 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,480 into the 2021 season because the information that you had going 126 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,480 into that season was, well, gosh, Indiana's got their 127 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,720 starting quarterback. Back. 128 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 They've got all these various pieces offensively that look 129 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,960 good. The defense we assume will be 130 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,400 good because they've got a defensive minded coach. 131 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,840 They seem to make the right moves in the portal and we're 132 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 going to assume the players are going to develop what nobody 133 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,280 anticipated. Well, there were several things 134 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 that season, obviously, you know, you know, why, why did 135 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Indiana get rated 16th? Why were IU fans upset about 136 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,400 that? They felt like IU should have 137 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 been rated higher. But nobody anticipated Michael 138 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Pennix not being ready. Nobody anticipated the huge void 139 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,560 in offensive ability that came from losing, you know, the 140 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 offensive coordinator from the previous year, Caitlyn de Boer. 141 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 And, you know, all those things kind of collide, but that it 142 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,840 wasn't like people looked at that in the preseason and said, 143 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,240 oh, IU is going to suck. You know, IU was ranked 16th 144 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,760 going into that season. And clearly they were not 145 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,360 anywhere close to that good. So I think what's going on with 146 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Cignetti, yes, people acknowledge that Cignetti is has 147 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,720 been successful, but. You can look at Cignetti 148 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,600 successes and you can say, well, there's a difference between 149 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,440 winning at Elon or winning at James Madison versus winning at 150 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,280 a Big 10 school, especially arguably the worst football 151 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,960 school in the Big 10 in terms of overall history and reputation 152 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,919 and things like that. I mean, Indiana hasn't been the 153 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,080 the worst in the conference over the last 10 years if you take 154 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,000 everything on aggregate, but they're certainly not in the top 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 half and. You can even apply that to the 156 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,960 players. Yes, you've got difference 157 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,680 making players that are coming up, but most of those players 158 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:00,880 are coming from the lowest level of FBS. 159 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,120 And while they were certainly impressive at James Madison or 160 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,120 some of the other places, and then, you know, granted you've 161 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,720 had some power conference players sprinkled in, at the end 162 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,560 of the day, it's hard to look at that and immediately say, well, 163 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,640 of course Indiana's going to rise up to, you know, five to 164 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,800 eight wins when you're coming off of, you know, consecutive 165 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,080 seasons, essentially where three consecutive seasons where you 166 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,120 just didn't measure up all things considered. 167 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,240 And so it's a safe pick if you pick Indiana 17th or 18th in the 168 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,960 conference because it's a brand new coaching staff. 169 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,520 And look, as as much as I think IU fans and and media people, my 170 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,360 and I include myself in this, have bought into this idea that 171 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,480 IU is going to be good at least like bowl eligible good this 172 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,680 year. There's a real chance that it 173 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:52,920 doesn't translate. You know, there's a real chance 174 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,480 that that, you know, the team is still a mess and that the 175 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,000 offense isn't sorted and that the defense can't contribute at 176 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,080 the level that it needs to. All of that is possible. 177 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,960 I, I tend to think that between the relative softness of the 178 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,000 schedule, the uncertainty of some of the teams and elsewhere 179 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,200 in the Big 10, the workmanlike approach that Signetti and his 180 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,120 staff are taking with their players, I tend to think that 181 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,000 they're going to be better by a pretty significant margin than 182 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,520 what a lot of pundits are projecting. 183 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,800 But I understand why the pundits are projecting what they're 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,080 projecting. And so I, I would actually 185 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,320 embrace this if I were you all, I would just say, you know what, 186 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,800 let the people who's you know, who are supposed to be keeping 187 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,040 track of this stuff, let them say IU is going to be bad. 188 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,000 It'll be that much more rewarding when IU is good. 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,720 And if IU does end up kind of falling short of the 190 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,600 expectations of the fan base has you can always fall back on. 191 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Well, all right, it's a little bit of a longer Rd. than 192 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:54,520 everybody thought that it might. Be because again, I you know 193 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,680 what I would remind the one thing last thing I'll say on 194 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:01,960 this is it's not basketball. You know, it is very hard to 195 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,960 take a bad team and turn them into a bowl eligible team in one 196 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,000 year. That wasn't what happened under 197 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,720 Kevin Wilson, you know, and I and I think. 198 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,160 Even with, you know, I mean, Tom Allen did not inherit a bad 199 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,400 team. I thought he inherited a pretty 200 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,520 good team and kind of treaded water for a couple of years 201 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,360 before they kind of punched through in that 2019 season and 202 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,240 got bowl eligible. But you know that that's that's 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,000 where sometimes it does go longer than we would like it to. 204 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,320 And it's why I'm still in my mind hedging my bets in terms of 205 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,480 like, not trying to be overly optimistic with this IU team. 206 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Because at the end of it all, it's not a you you're, you're 207 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,640 getting overly excited about IU football, sets you, sets you up 208 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,400 for disappointment, sets you up for thinking, well, gosh, are we 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,080 over rating the coaching staff? Are we over rating the players? 210 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,800 When you realistically what you should be approaching it with, I 211 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:03,080 think is a mentality of it's hard to get that many guys going 212 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,160 in the right direction. It's hard to change a culture 213 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,160 overnight. And even with a bunch of 214 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,640 winnable games, we've all seen in college football that even 215 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,440 the most winnable games might not be things you come away 216 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,840 with. I mean, Indiana won that game 217 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,880 last. Year against. 218 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Wisconsin at home, which fits into that category where it's 219 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,760 like, should Wisconsin have lost that game? 220 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Absolutely not. But they did against an inferior 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,960 opponent, so. You know, that's the kind of 222 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,160 thing you got to think about and that's I think we're all that's 223 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,560 coming from. So we'll see. 224 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,720 Question from Patrick. Felts need all the IU football 225 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,880 uniform thoughts. So for those of you who missed 226 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,360 this announcement yesterday, this was kind of greeted with 227 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,560 with some interesting mixtures of things as there was a leak 228 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:53,200 off of Tavin Jackson's web. I think it was a Snapchat. 229 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,560 And then IU actually released the the the jerseys that they're 230 00:12:57,560 --> 00:12:59,760 going to be using at least the home jerseys for next year. 231 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,400 I'm going to call them up here on the on the video screen, you 232 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,120 can kind of see them. It's a little bit of a smaller 233 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,320 picture, but there we go. So you can see like for those 234 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,840 who haven't seen these jerseys, I'll I'll try to remember to put 235 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,760 a link in the sub stack for those of you who haven't seen 236 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,560 these. This is interesting, you know, 237 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,200 from the standpoint of. The, the, the, the lettering's a 238 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,480 lot bigger. The number on the front looks a 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,840 lot bigger. It's a really simple design and 240 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,080 it's, it's not a bad design. It's not like I wouldn't call it 241 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,600 eye-catching or anything like that in terms of, you know, 242 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,080 being something that we're going to remember for the rest of our 243 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,480 lives. The 2024 uniforms, Probably not 244 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,360 our friend IU Artifacts noted that he's getting some 1964 245 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,480 season vibes because that was the first year that Indiana 246 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,440 appeared on the front of the football uniforms that the 247 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,120 actual. Word Indiana and I can kind of 248 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,600 see it when I look at that picture. 249 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 I overall, I'll be, I'll be honest. 250 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,720 Like I know a lot of people that complaints about the uniforms 251 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,880 last year. I don't get like 2 jacked one 252 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,800 way or the other about the uniforms. 253 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,880 You know, what I would really like is like a clean brand that 254 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:19,360 is pleasant to look at that isn't too derivative and is, you 255 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,560 know, it is kind of faithful to the overall branding that I use 256 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,680 had in in, you know, across most of its sports. 257 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,280 And so when I looked at them, I was like, well, all right, I was 258 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,840 initially a little bit negative on the design itself. 259 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,640 I was like, I wish that they had done a little bit more with it, 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,520 but the more I look at it, I was like, it's a really 261 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,320 straightforward design. It it doesn't take a lot of 262 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,160 risks, but it also doesn't put IU in a particularly bad light 263 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,320 in terms of of how it comes across. 264 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,240 So it's all right. You know, I'd give them a, I'd 265 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,600 give them AB minus. I guess in execution. 266 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,480 I think there's a lot of room for improvement. 267 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,000 And I think a lot of the people who reacted negatively to the 268 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,160 reveal yesterday, as it were, a lot of that negativity is a 269 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,760 built up kind of frustration over the lack of innovative 270 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,480 ideas with IU football uniforms since the Kevin Wilson era. 271 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,480 And I think a lot of that's been by design. 272 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,560 I can kind of see Kurt Cignetti not really wanting a lot of 273 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,800 really flashy stuff as far as the uniform itself is concerned. 274 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,440 But maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong on that. 275 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,360 I know Tom Allen certainly seemed to want a very 276 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,880 straightforward look compared to what Kevin Wilson was interested 277 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,720 in. You know, so I'm curious to see 278 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,680 how this look evolves over time. But for 2024, I think what 279 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,960 they've got is fine. We had a couple of other quick 280 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,840 questions in terms of of the football side of things. 281 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,080 We we'll get a lot of tailgate questions, which I love. 282 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,000 And I think it's I I'm going to try to tackle a couple of these. 283 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,840 First of all, Al Forno, good to see you again on Twitter. 284 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Al, outside of the Rose Bowl, which new Big 10 stadium or game 285 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,640 day experience do you recommend checking out? 286 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,560 So of the other three, Oregon, Washington and USC, I've only 287 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,960 been to one and it's Oregon and I, I actually really highly 288 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,000 recommend checking out Austin Stadium. 289 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,400 It's a really cool design. It's a smaller stadium and most 290 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,080 of these, most of the West Coast stadiums that aren't the 291 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Coliseum or the Rose Bowl, I think they're smaller than you 292 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,560 might anticipate them being. But I remember I went for it was 293 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,240 it was Oregon, Portland State, like it was, it was not that 294 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,320 important of a game. So it was. 295 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Easy to get tickets. It was raining and Gray, 296 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,360 shockingly, but it was cool. Like walked around the whole 297 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,120 stadium a couple of times. There's like an overhang area. 298 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,800 The vibe was cool and it was neat 'cause it was like, this is 299 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,080 where Oregon does all of their, their magic stuff. 300 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,160 And I thought it was really cool. 301 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,760 I, I am unquestionably the most interested in going to 302 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Washington to watch a game. That whole scene has always 303 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,920 looked really fascinating, like going all the way back to, I 304 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,080 remember watching, you know, Huskies football back in the 80s 305 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,440 and 90s when and they won a national title and, and we're a 306 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,720 real national player. So that's the one I'm most 307 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 interested in. I I'm certain. 308 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,400 I will go to the game at USC when they play out there. 309 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,720 I have no clue what to expect with that. 310 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,040 But yeah, I think Washington is the one I would like to go see 311 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,440 that I haven't yet, but I would absolutely recommend when 312 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Indiana plays at Oregon, go check. 313 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,359 That one out, 'cause I think that'll be a really cool one if 314 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,440 you haven't been up there before. 315 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,240 Plus, Eugene's just a kind of a fascinating place. 316 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,319 It is in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking, in the 317 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:30,400 drive from Portland to Eugene. That's some wild landscape going 318 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,440 down the road, man. I mean, this is some moonscape 319 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,840 stuff going on out there. Like it just kind of feels, 320 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,160 especially if you grew up in the Midwest and you spent most of 321 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,800 your time in the Midwest, it kind of feels like you're on 322 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,800 another planet or another celestial body. 323 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,920 So that would be the one I would I would recommend going and 324 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:51,320 checking out our let's see. We had a question regarding this 325 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,600 is from from Hoosier beer guy. Assuming some on field success 326 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,040 occurs in the sig era, what are some improvements you'd expect 327 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,080 to see to the game day experience slash stadium slash 328 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,000 facilities slash program to become a more serious football 329 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,880 school? I think first and foremost, get 330 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,920 rid of pass outs. Stop letting people leave the 331 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,800 stadium. I mean, I, I don't know how you 332 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,200 instill a sense of seriousness around a football program if 333 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,240 you're just allow people to leave whenever they want. 334 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,600 I know that that's been historically how it's operated. 335 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,560 But I would argue that for the majority of attendees for IU 336 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 football, many of whom just have tickets because they're trying 337 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,880 to get priority points for basketball, you know, treating 338 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,280 it like something that you don't have to make much of an 339 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,640 investment in from a time perspective or a fanship 340 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,560 perspective is a mistake. And I think especially for. 341 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,680 Students. Giving them the option of 342 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,640 leaving and and potentially coming back, even though I know 343 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,120 a lot of them don't just doesn't seem like a lot of it makes a 344 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:51,760 lot of sense. So get rid of the pass outs. 345 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,520 I think first and foremost, I know this will probably not be 346 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:03,840 received well, but I think I think there's a place and you 347 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,440 know, you need to have a good role for the marching 100 and. 348 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,280 What you do, I think a more logical balance needs to be 349 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,400 struck. Between what role the marching 350 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:20,240 hundreds playing in the the in game like during play or do you 351 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,680 know during drive stuff versus what happens with the Pai just. 352 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,480 You know as. As much as we have a lot of 353 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,040 traditionalists in the football audience, and I understand where 354 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,360 you're coming from on this, and we have a lot of marching 100 355 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,880 adherents out there. And so this is not intended to 356 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,280 be a criticism, but more of a reality. 357 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,080 I feel like, you know, the, the, the atmosphere that you need to 358 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,800 create an intimidating environment in college football 359 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,440 really cannot be achieved with a marching band. 360 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,800 It, it just doesn't have the same vibe. 361 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,080 And, and I think younger fans, especially, I think players, I, 362 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,560 I think that there's a general and, and I, I include the 363 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,080 opposing teams players in this as well. 364 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 You, you need to have something that creates a sense of 365 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,280 foreboding from an atmospheric perspective within the stadium. 366 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 That's kind of. The direction I'd like to see 367 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 things go, I think there's been some strides made in the last 368 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,040 couple of years on that and some of it is really, you know, maybe 369 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,160 as much about modernizing. Some of the stuff that that the 370 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,680 the band is doing within the confines of the game day 371 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,720 atmosphere, you know, I think the overall, the overall video 372 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,840 board production could definitely get better. 373 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,760 That's, you know, it was, it was kind of a revelation when I you 374 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,560 started regularly doing video board shows. 375 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,520 What about 12/13/14 years ago? I think that you could use a 376 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,280 reset there, certainly. And then I think just in general 377 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,680 scale, like the scale of services within the stadium that 378 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,800 they've been slowly doing upgrades there's Suppose we're 379 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,320 going to do a whole deep dive into what the changes are going 380 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,360 to be in the football stadium at some point this summer. 381 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,120 We're going to try to get a couple people on who can speak 382 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:01,280 more directly to that. But you know that they're adding 383 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,240 more food options. There's supposed to be some 384 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,640 really cool new food options in the North End zone, which is 385 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,920 great to hear, especially since that's where my tickets are 386 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560 going to be now. I think putting the students up 387 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,800 in the North End zone, curving around onto the east side of the 388 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,440 stadium is an interesting approach. 389 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,200 I'm curious to see how that plays out and I think that's 390 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,240 going to be helpful. But look, I I've said this for 391 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,400 years, like the biggest adjustment that you could make 392 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,520 to the game day experience is putting a competitive product 393 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,400 out on the field. In big 10 play and making it so 394 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,280 that it is compelling to watch the team play football. 395 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,720 You know, I feel like a lot of the strides and this didn't get 396 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,280 talked about as much I think as it should have during the time, 397 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,120 but I think a lot of the strides that IU made in terms of their 398 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:49,720 overall game day atmosphere in the latter stages of the Kevin 399 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,880 Wilson era and and even into the. 400 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,320 The the first few years of the Tom Allen era, a lot of it was 401 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,400 really because the team was competitive in a lot of those 402 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,000 games, like you didn't feel like. 403 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,520 You were going and the game was going to be over at halftime. 404 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,800 But I but I also think beyond that, you know, figuring out a 405 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:12,160 way to continue to get people engaged, you know, making sure 406 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,840 that you've got the right kind of atmospherics to support the 407 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,880 crowd, doing what you want them to do at key moments in games. 408 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,760 I think that that's really key. It's a very different sort of 409 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,800 setup and experience than Assembly Hall because Assembly 410 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Hall even today, even with the lack of relative success over 411 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,360 the course of the last, I don't know, 20 years or so 412 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,480 consistently still knows when to get loud. 413 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,240 And it still achieves A level of, of, of, you know, the kind 414 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,560 of intimidation that you just, you rarely ever come close to in 415 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,680 Memorial Stadium. But that would be some of the 416 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,360 things I would talk about there, I think. 417 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,280 And I think it's going to be a work in progress. 418 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,600 And I think as with anything, the crowd's going to feed off 419 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,440 the team. And then in in response to that, 420 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,480 the team can feed off the crowd. But if this is not a, this is 421 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,040 absolutely the egg has to be laid first by the team. 422 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,760 That has the Hatch. Before the crowd's really going 423 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,240 to be able to learn to get into things. 424 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,360 And I think that's that's going to be the key element there. 425 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,520 So let's switch gears to basketball real quick. 426 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Any sports partisan says it feels let me actually pop this 427 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,240 up on screen. For those of you who would like 428 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,920 to see this in person, so. The question is for it feels 429 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,240 like every pre season, even back to Archie's early years, we 430 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,840 discussed how deep the roster is and how. 431 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Difficult it'll be to split out. Playing time, however, is there 432 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,200 actual objectivity to this upcoming rosters depth in terms 433 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,360 of both experience and potential contributions? 434 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,040 It's a great question. This is something that Scott 435 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,400 talks about all the time and and repeats like the same lament at 436 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,320 the end of every year. It's like, you know, every year 437 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,800 we, we tie ourselves up in knots talking about who's going to 438 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,360 play X1 number of minutes. How are they going to separate 439 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,520 these things out and then by the end of the year it doesn't 440 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000 really matter. And you know the so I, I think 441 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,760 when you get down to it, I think that this IU team does have a 442 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,400 hierarchy in terms of what we're what we should expect going into 443 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,480 the year. I think it's pretty 444 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,240 straightforward this year that when you when you look at the 445 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520 players that are here, when you look at the players that are 446 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,600 going to be incoming. You know, it really comes down 447 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,600 to Omar Ballo's going to get 25 to 27 minutes. 448 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560 Malik Renew's going to get about the same, maybe slightly more. 449 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,120 Trey Galloway's probably going to get about 26 to 30 minutes 450 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,360 off the bench or starting, I think either way. 451 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,560 But you know what, I think if he comes off the bench as a six 452 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,160 man, he'll still get more or less the same number of minutes. 453 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,480 Miles Rice is probably going to get a lot of minutes of point 454 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,760 guard. He played a ton of minutes last 455 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,240 year for for Washington State. And then I think the, you know, 456 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,480 Mackenzie Imbacco is probably a guy that, you know, gets a, a a 457 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,040 ton of minutes as well. I mean, he in his freshman year 458 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,160 played 67% of available minutes, 68% of available minutes, which 459 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,800 is a lot. I just saw. 460 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,640 I'll expect like that group plus Kane and Carlisle, plus probably 461 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Bryson Tucker. You know that would be. 462 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,520 That's probably where. You're, you know, if you, if you 463 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,160 think about the players that aren't going to get the most 464 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,880 minutes, I think that's probably the top of the pecking order. 465 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320 You know, the, the questions I have on this and we had another 466 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,680 question specifically about minutes, which which, you know, 467 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,920 it's hard to really meter out exactly what it looks like. 468 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,520 I am really curious to see like, you know, what is it? 469 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,160 What kind of a contribution are we going to see out of Luke 470 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,400 Goody? He played about half of the 471 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,400 available minutes at Illinois last year. 472 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Will we see him play as many this year? 473 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,880 Is it something where he comes in regularly off the bench and 474 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,160 plays a bunch or do his minutes kind of get ratcheted back a 475 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,760 little bit? Last year was the first year he 476 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,600 played that many minutes. He didn't really didn't play 477 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,280 very much at all his first two years. 478 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,080 And I think with him and potentially Trey Galloway and 479 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,280 potentially Bryson Tucker, you know, as as three pieces that 480 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,240 are going to have to pop in and really earn their minutes. 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,560 You know, I like that group feels like the group that's 482 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,080 going to get the most run. There are wild cards in that and 483 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,000 that, you know, naming namely what's Gabe Cups, what's Jakai 484 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,920 Newton and and what's Anthony Leal's overall contributions. 485 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,680 You know, I, I. Feel like those guys, it's going 486 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,560 to be tough for them to get on the floor regularly with the 487 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000 three guards that you've. Got in the mix. 488 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,600 But I could be wrong. On that, I mean, if Jakai 489 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Newton's bounced back and can provide that athleticism, I 490 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,560 could see him, you know, doing fairly well. 491 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,120 I, I feel like the, the, to go back to the core question here 492 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:57,800 that that sports partisan is asking, objectively speaking, it 493 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,720 feels like this is a pretty deep roster in terms of guys that you 494 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,880 wouldn't feel concerned about playing, You know, guys that you 495 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240 can go in and, and say, you know, we know we've seen a 496 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,640 season of Miles Rice. We know Miles Rice can play at a 497 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,920 really high level. You know, we've seen Luke Goody 498 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,400 now in the kind of role that you would like him to play here and 499 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,320 he was, you know, one of the top 100 best offensive efficiency 500 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,280 players in the whole country last year. 501 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720 You know, that's that's that only gets a mirage. 502 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,440 I think that, you know, even you know, Omar Balo, like we've seen 503 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Omar Balo play multiple years. We've seen him as IU fans. 504 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920 We saw him in Vegas and I. Feel like you can feel pretty 505 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,120 good about. What we know about those guys, I 506 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,080 feel like you can feel pretty good about what we know about 507 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Trey Galloway. I feel like what you saw to 508 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,880 Mackenzie and Baca, we can feel pretty good about that. 509 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,680 You know, I so I think the the wild cards are really the guys 510 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480 that we. We don't have a clear 511 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,280 understanding of what they can do. 512 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,720 And this is where, you know, this is where I would throw 513 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Bryce and Tucker, and we just don't know what he's going to 514 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,880 look like. He could be the breakthrough 515 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,160 star on this IU team, you know, Gabe Cups like what? 516 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,040 How does he respond to what happened last year? 517 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,200 That I don't entirely know. You know, it was a tough season 518 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,160 for Gabe Cubs. He got put in some situations, I 519 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,960 think that he wasn't ready for physically or just from a mental 520 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,440 approach to the game. How does he respond this off? 521 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480 Season and and just do his minutes get dialed way back. 522 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760 What happens there? And then with Jokai Newton, 523 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560 obviously it's the injury situation and and also then the 524 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960 adaptation to the college game. You know, Carlisle's the only 525 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,360 one I'm not 100% certain of, of the, of, you know, the projected 526 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,880 starters. You you could look at what he 527 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,960 did last year and you can say that, you know, efficiency wise, 528 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,840 he wasn't an efficient scorer at all. 529 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200 You know, he did a good job of of dishing out assists, 530 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840 relatively speaking. You know, but he didn't shoot 531 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280 the ball well and he didn't play a huge amount of minutes. 532 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,200 Actually, by percentage, played fewer minutes than. 533 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,000 You know, over the course of the season and and certainly played 534 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,120 in far fewer games than Luke Goody did and certainly less 535 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,000 than Trey Galloway. So does Galloway start there? 536 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,760 And is Carlisle a guy off the bench? 537 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,960 But still, it's nice to have a piece that you've seen for at 538 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,080 least a year, you know, at the power five level or whatever it 539 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,320 is now the the power two level. I just don't know if if 540 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,480 Carlisle's necessarily a guy that you can expect to play a 541 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080 huge number of minutes and then what happens with the remaining 542 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,800 aspects of the backcourt with that. 543 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,440 So to answer the macro question though, I really do feel like 544 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,680 there's a lot more tested depth and experience. 545 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280 I think the biggest question, and this kind of goes back, 546 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760 there's a really nice piece that Evan Mayakawa published today, 547 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240 which I'll also try to remember to put in the crim in the sub 548 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,360 stack about, you know, the key to winning in the portal era. 549 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,480 And a lot of it comes down to, you know, can you preference the 550 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,880 OR can you give preferential court time to the people on your 551 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,240 roster who are returning who already know the system? 552 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,680 But then that also leads to the larger question of how much do 553 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,440 the systems themselves need to change with IU because we've 554 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,520 seen, you know, offensively, this was not what you want to 555 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,280 see moving forward in the last couple of years. 556 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,200 I think with IU, it was a bit, you know, it was OK, but it was 557 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,800 largely Trace Jackson Davis two years ago. 558 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,800 And then this past year, it really was a struggle on offense 559 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,840 and defensively. I'd argue that we haven't seen 560 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,080 Indiana be where they want to be, you know, in either of the 561 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,160 last two seasons either. So how much, how much can these 562 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,760 new pieces adapt? And this is where maybe the idea 563 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:44,360 that you want to have that the carryover of the minutes, maybe 564 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,720 it's not as important with IU if they're having to change the way 565 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,920 that they're doing business on both ends of the floor. 566 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,320 So I do think objectively this is a much deeper team. 567 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960 I think it's. Objectively, in terms of top to 568 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,880 bottom like that, those top 8-9 spots on the roster, I think 569 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,520 it's a top three roster in the conference right now as far as 570 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,760 how that meters. Out. 571 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,840 I think we have a pretty good sense of how it's going to look 572 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,760 with the bigs and I think there's more questions the 573 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800 further away from the bigs that you get. 574 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,680 Simply in terms of just how everything gets allocated. 575 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:24,920 So let's let's real quick before we wrap up because we are we, we 576 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600 kind of answered the question with the with the Evan asked 577 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760 about the minutes. So hopefully he heard that. 578 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,880 So we appreciate Evan asking that question. 579 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,560 We did have a couple of questions regarding the the 580 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,760 tailgate scene. So someone asked, this is Zach 581 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Curry. Imagine this. 582 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,200 It's a sunny but chilly Saturday afternoon in October. 583 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,320 I don't like chilly afternoons in October. 584 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,200 Give me November for the chilly afternoons. 585 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,720 The Hoosiers of the home team kick off at 3:30. 586 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,720 Given the weather, what is on the menu at the tailgate? 587 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,200 Wow. So, yeah, I think by the time 588 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,680 you get to that time of year, you really need to try to pivot 589 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,040 to not just food that handles better in colder weather. 590 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,880 It's bad enough for an afternoon tailgate. 591 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280 I think it's different. Like for a morning tailgate, 592 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,640 that to me is perfect. Like breakfast sandwiches on the 593 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Blackstone griddle and Donuts that right there. 594 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Like you put that combo together, throw some coffee in, 595 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,200 throw some some hard Truth Hill cinnamon vodka into the mix. 596 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,640 I mean, you got a nice morning going right there for yourself. 597 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,520 You know, for an afternoon tailgate, I think it's a little 598 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,400 bit more complicated in as much as you've, you know, to me for 599 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,560 that, for a lunchtime tailgate, I'm probably doing like some 600 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,440 kind of of griddle based Philly cheese steak. 601 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840 I, I think that that really sounds good. 602 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,600 You'll get some seasoned, some seasoned steak, maybe some 603 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 chicken, get some cheese on there. 604 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,840 You'll get some homemade rolls and, and get those, you know, 605 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,360 properly buttered, get them toasted up on the griddle. 606 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,240 And I mean, I think you're good to go there. 607 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,160 You've, you've really got a nice combo 'cause I think with, with 608 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,920 that temperature, especially for a lunchtime tailgate, you want 609 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,720 something that's going to be substantial 'cause you're 610 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,000 probably you people are going to be drinking during that time 611 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,280 period as well. And you want to make sure you 612 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,240 send people in where they don't have to buy something at the 613 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,400 concession stand. It's an option if they get 614 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,240 hungry later. But I always try to set 615 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,280 something up where people are going to leave the tailgate at 616 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880 least feeling like they got something substantial in their 617 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000 stomach, particularly for a lunchtime tailgate 'cause you're 618 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,160 probably, you've probably already pregamed a bit before 619 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640 you got there. As far as like what's the 620 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,000 beverage of choice? That's a borderline temperature, 621 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,120 like 4345°. I really, I find I don't really 622 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,480 like beer at that temperature. I like beer when it's a bit 623 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,560 warmer or I like a a darker beer when it's colder. 624 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,000 But like in the mid 40s, I'm probably leaning towards some 625 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,080 kind of a cocktail or mixed drink. 626 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,920 And again, something that I think doesn't require ice. 627 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,199 I got to think about what that would be though, because a lot 628 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,159 of it is about if you're, if you're tying it in with the 629 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,440 Philly cheese steak, beer's probably the best option there. 630 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,120 But I think you're probably going for an amber ale or a. 631 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000 Porter or something along those lines, something that could be 632 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,080 cool as opposed to ice cold, something that's going to 633 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,360 properly support the flavor profile of the Philly cheese 634 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,760 steak. That would that would be the 635 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,520 mixer. So I think a good a good. 636 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,280 Amber, I'm more of a Porter guy myself. 637 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,000 So I'm, I'm, you know, that's, that's a my Bach type of 638 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,639 situation as well or an Oktoberfest type of situation. 639 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,080 So like a, a good like a rogue dead guy or something like that. 640 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,000 I think pairs really well in that circumstance. 641 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,120 I had a couple other alcohol related questions. 642 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,280 So I guess I'll ask. I'll I'll answer. 643 00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:00,440 Those real quick before we wrap up the we had a question about 644 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,000 where'd it go here? Did all of those questions 645 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,760 disappear? Maybe maybe somebody took them 646 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,920 off. Well, someone asked me like my 647 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,800 top three mixed drinks, which my mixed drink tastes are all over 648 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,120 the place. So with no particular order, oh, 649 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640 sorry, this is Craig Davis asked us this top three cocktails 650 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,480 ranked. I guess I have to rank them. 651 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:28,000 So I think, you know, for #3 I'm probably going for a very, you 652 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,760 know, just the, just the, the classic bourbon and Coke, which 653 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520 I know a lot of people like, that's boring. 654 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,960 It's not really a mixed drink. It's, it actually is a perfect 655 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,880 mixed drink in a lot of ways. You know, particularly if you've 656 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,080 got like a mid grade or slightly lower bourbon or Scotch, either 657 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,440 one works really well. I think with Coca-Cola, I prefer 658 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,240 the Mexican Coke more and more now with this, with this 659 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:54,920 combination and it'll pair. This actually pairs well with 660 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,240 another question I got. I think you get some bullet rye. 661 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360 And Coke, that, that mixes really well together. 662 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,080 I'm gonna put that at #3 #2 this is a remnant of my time in the 663 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,080 South, particularly living in Memphis. 664 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,520 But I've always loved a hurricane. 665 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,240 Not really a drink you get a lot up here in Indiana, but a well 666 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,920 done hurricane to me encapsulates all the, the things 667 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,600 I like in, in a cocktail and then all that. 668 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,040 My top one is is a Manhattan, which to me I think is the kind 669 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,880 of the more it's it's it's a nice sophisticated jerk without 670 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,280 being pretentious. It's it's pretty straightforward 671 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,120 and I just like the flavors. I think it actually the 672 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,480 Manhattan. Is kind of underrated at a 673 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,560 tailgate setting, you know, you have to kind of premix it a 674 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,560 little bit. 'Cause it's hard to get the 675 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,200 ratios right necessarily in the field, but I think that's a good 676 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,480 option. So I would I would check that 677 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,240 out. On a related note, Craig asks 678 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,680 how many do you consume after IU football wins their eighth game 679 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,080 of the year? Enough that I'll probably lose 680 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,320 track of the actual number. It's I'm not, I, I'm not Craig. 681 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,720 I'm not doing it. I'm not getting down the pathway 682 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,320 of, of dreaming that big yet. But I appreciate the thought 683 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,480 process. Thank you. 684 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840 We did have a question and I'm, I'm trying to locate it here 685 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,120 'cause I want to give the person credit, but someone asked like, 686 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640 what are your, what are your top three bourbons? 687 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,120 I actually. Think they deleted the the oh. 688 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,560 No, there is. Darryl Frazier asked us. 689 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,000 What 3 bourbons do you really enjoy everyday? 690 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,320 Sipper 1 to share one for a special occasion. 691 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,320 So I mentioned Bullet earlier, not the rye, but the the the 692 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,720 rye. I guess the rye would work here 693 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,280 as well. I really enjoy that as a as a 694 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,160 sipping bourbon. It's kind of between that and 695 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,920 Four Roses right now. I really enjoy both of those as 696 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,920 options. I've kind of migrated away from. 697 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,240 I used to be a big Maker's Mark adhere and but but less and less 698 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,240 here lately. I'm probably not going to get I 699 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:56,200 I think that my my my one to share the it's a little on the 700 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,760 pricey side, but I if you have not had the hubers bourbons yet, 701 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,320 the double oak bourbon is outstanding. 702 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,600 And again, it's a little on the pricier side, but I would 703 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800 absolutely recommend any of their bourbons on us. 704 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,880 I particularly love the double oak, but even the even the 705 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,320 regular one is it's just really well done. 706 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,800 And and I think, you know, obviously you've got the people 707 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,640 who are like you can't do bourbon unless it's like 708 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600 specifically from that particular area of Kentucky. 709 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,280 Fine, whatever you you don't have to try it. 710 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600 But for those who are willing to venture out a little bit, give 711 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,880 the hubers a try. I was blown away the first time 712 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,200 I had it, like how good it was. And I would absolutely recommend 713 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,960 it to everybody. And you never know, if you stop 714 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,800 by the tailgate this year, there might be a little bit of a 715 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,560 sample for you. And then as far as special 716 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,200 occasion, had this a few weeks ago and I would, I would highly 717 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,000 recommend that. It's actually on the allocation 718 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,800 list at Big Red and Bloomington, but Russell's Reserve Private 719 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,320 barrel select, highly recommend that. 720 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,280 It's I, I don't want to spoil the surprise, but it's under 721 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,480 $100 and it's, it's, I find it to be awesome. 722 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,960 That's exactly what I'm looking for in those circumstances. 723 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,520 One last question, we had recommended hope this is from 724 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,880 Jeff Dix recommended hotel for two nights in in in Bloomington 725 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,880 so and then a recommended lunch. Spot So you know, I'll say on 726 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640 the hotel front, I always recommend if. 727 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,480 If you as long as you don't want or need the traditional big ish 728 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,200 hotel experience. Try the Grant Street Inn and try 729 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,800 Showers in. They're normally pretty 730 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,800 reasonably priced. Their their location is amazing 731 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,760 and I think a lot of people forget about them when they come 732 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200 to Bloomington. Grant Street Inn is at 7th or 733 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,240 it's actually 6th and and Grant, so it's real close to Kirkwood. 734 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,360 And then Showers Inn is at like I think 9th and Washington or 735 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000 8th and Washington again. Really. 736 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,920 Really. Nice location and you're close 737 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,880 to everything. If those don't work out, I mean. 738 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,080 You know the the. The graduate is where most of 739 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,160 the people that I've had come in stay here lately. 740 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,280 That's probably also if if where you were looking at originally 741 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,280 was pricey, I think you know the graduate probably will be as 742 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,920 well, but. Again, you can't beat the 743 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,240 location, so I would recommend that. 744 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440 As far as recommended lunch spots in Bloomington right now 745 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,200 rattled off a few of these in previous podcasts, but just to 746 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,840 kind of, you know, take a. Little bit of a meandering tour 747 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,680 in downtown as far as where to stop in for lunch if you're 748 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,080 alone, like if you don't have somebody under 21, I still like 749 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,720 the the lunch like lunch at the tap is good lunch at Uptown and 750 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:42,160 you can have somebody who's under 21. 751 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,480 There is always, I think, a great experience. 752 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,360 I'd recommend trying out Da Vinci if you haven't been there. 753 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,160 Da Vinci's at basically third and Washington, so it's a little 754 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,320 off the. Beaten path from. 755 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,800 Kirkwood, but their lunch is awesome. 756 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,640 Austria Rago, as long as it's not a Monday, 'cause I think 757 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,680 they're closed on Mondays for lunch, but they have great 758 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,480 options all the way up and down the line. 759 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,240 Beware, Austria. The sandwiches are incredible, 760 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,800 but they're too big for lunch. By yourself. 761 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040 You could go in with a friend and share one of those 762 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,720 sandwiches and you'd both be stuffed. 763 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120 And then you know, I would probably also throw in 764 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,800 Brewberger, which just opened. So there's a Brewberger at 3rd 765 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,280 and Grant. So again, not too. 766 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,360 Far off the off the strip, but that's been a real welcome 767 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,880 addition to downtown. And then of course, the 768 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,440 regulars. Buffaloes is always a great 769 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,400 place to stop in for lunch. And if you haven't stopped into 770 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,000 Buffaloes and and tried the smash burgers, I would 771 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,520 absolutely check that out. For the more health conscious, 772 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,040 go to Ever Bowl, which the IU women's basketball program has 773 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,600 been promoting on on their Instagram. 774 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,280 I go there quite a bit. Ever Bowl is right above 775 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,400 Lenny's, where Lenny's is at now in Kirkwood. 776 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,560 And for a much lighter option, I think it's a really good one. 777 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,920 I always have enjoyed what they've had there. 778 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,800 So anyway, hopefully that was helpful, Jeff. 779 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,720 And if you've got any other questions, certainly send those 780 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,080 in and let us know. Anyway, way over time here. 781 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,800 So we're going to wrap up, but I really appreciate all you folks 782 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,320 tuning in. Appreciate everybody that asked 783 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,440 questions. I'm sorry I didn't get to. 784 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,160 All of them. I think we answered like 6 785 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,560 questions. It took 42 minutes. 786 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,200 That's the way it rolls here anyway. 787 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,720 We'll be back with more Crimson cast coming up soon and as we 788 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,120 get closer to the start of football season, we'll have 789 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,240 certainly more to talk about there as well as basketball for 790 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,000 the whole back home network. I'm Galen Clavio, thanks for 791 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,920 joining us, folks. We'll catch you. 792 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,680 Folks, on the flip side, bring back the bison. 793 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,840 That's all. Everybody, bye.