1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,000 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:25,200 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson. 3 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Cast, folks. Galen Clavio. 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Joining you solo on the 5th of April of 2024. 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,120 It's good to have you folks back with us. 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Again and looking. Forward to chatting a little bit 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,200 this morning. Relatively short podcast, Couple 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,480 of things. Not a whole. 9 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,520 Lot of IU content, although we're going to start off with 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,560 something very important. In the IU universe. 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,520 First of all, couple. Of business items. 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Just a reminder, we are part of the back home network. 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Be sure to check. 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So again, go to. 71 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Crimsoncast.substack.com consider. 72 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Being. Part of the community. 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Also an. Interesting programming note for 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 those of you I don't know where. You get your podcast. 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,920 I know from looking at the numbers, most of you are getting 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,400 your podcasts from Apple. Which is fine, no problems, but. 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,920 If you haven't been on. Spotify podcasts yet? 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,080 I would. Recommend checking it out. 79 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Because they've actually enabled. 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Video on a lot of their podcasts, which I think is. 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Fascinating. And it's. 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Something that I. Honestly believe could help. 83 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Spotify get a little bit further ahead in the. 84 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Podcast Game for. For those of you who don't know. 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,920 The background of. Of how this all? 86 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Works. Spotify has been trying to do 87 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,440 podcast. They've really tried to become 88 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,680 the. Podcast place they've. 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Had some controversy over that at times. 90 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,480 But you know, they have their own. 91 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,320 App A. Lot of people have the app, one 92 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,279 of the things that they've started. 93 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,600 Doing is. Actually showcasing video. 94 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,720 When a podcast is. Uploaded directly to Spotify. 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,840 And I think. That's really fascinating 96 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:26,920 because. It it opens up some interesting. 97 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Vistas in terms of. You know the. 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Visual aspects of podcast I think are becoming more and more 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,240 popular. I actually found this out. 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,280 Because I've been watching and listening to a podcast from a 101 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,480 former student of mine, Carly. Well, I. 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Know her as Carly Mirada, but she's an anchor in Wisconsin. 103 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,280 A sports anchor in. Wisconsin. 104 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:45,680 Also play by play. Broadcaster up. 105 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,400 There, she and her family started a podcast called The 106 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Dinner Table. And I Was. 107 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,680 I called it up the other day and boom is video on Spotify. 108 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,680 It's like this is. Awesome. 109 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,720 And so this. Episode right Now if you go to 110 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Spotify and check it out, you might see the video that we 111 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,960 recorded. I've also got this up on YouTube 112 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,840 so you don't have to go over to Spotify, but check it out if 113 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,200 you're on Spotify if you're thinking about Spotify as a 114 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,240 podcast venue. It might be interesting. 115 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Anyway, wanted to start off two things I want to talk about 116 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,120 today. The first A big congratulations 117 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,880 to Sarah Scalia. Again, ESPN, that's. 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Sarah Scalia They really. Seem to struggle. 119 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,440 With her name at times. For winning the women's 3 point 120 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 shooting. Contest yesterday. 121 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:27,800 I'm going to try something here that I haven't. 122 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Done in a while. Which is actually, since we're 123 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,000 trying to do video, I'm going to try to play her her final round 124 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,600 here and get this rolling over here in the. 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,120 Background just great. Shooting performance by by. 126 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Sarah as she. Ends up. 127 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,080 Winning on the last rack on the women's. 128 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Side and had a, you know, 16 threes dropped in the. 129 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,920 Overall Championship KC. Tamanaga ends up winning. 130 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,200 With a couple of balls to spare, but just a. 131 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Tremendous performance by Sarah. And we're just, we're proud of 132 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,920 her without question, for what she was able to accomplish there 133 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 and you know, watching her throughout the course of the 134 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,520 year. Has been just. 135 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,120 A real joy for IU basketball. Fans and and seeing. 136 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Her. You know, come. 137 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,800 In as a transfer and just kind of sink right in. 138 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,040 To the overall culture of IU. Women's basketball and. 139 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,560 Just a great accomplishment for her. 140 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,880 I don't know. Everybody was really excited 141 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,560 about that. Watching last night? 142 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:27,760 So congratulations to her. And I got to say, ESPN got to do 143 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,680 a bit better, not. Just the name pronunciation 144 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,160 issues, but the broadcast of the the final rounds. 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,440 Of that. 3 point shooting contest. 146 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 It kind of felt like the broadcasters were like 147 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,640 broadcasting. The 3rd hole of. 148 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Some random golf tournament as opposed to something that was 149 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,520 that exciting. So would like to see that pick 150 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,560 up a little bit, but what are you going to do anyway? 151 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,320 Also, Congrats to Casey. Tomanaga, a great performance by 152 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,520 him obviously and he was a great. 153 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,920 Competitor throughout the course of. 154 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Not just the season. But that as well. 155 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Also, tough luck. For the Indiana State. 156 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Sycamores last night as. They had a 7. 157 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,280 Point lead and then blew it at the very end. 158 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,320 Seton Hall ends up. Winning the NIT championship, 159 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,480 Just a crusher. I feel so. 160 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Bad for all the Indiana State fans that were hoping for. 161 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,880 You know a post season title of some sort and after the. 162 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Season that that team had. You really feel like they they. 163 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Earned something more than they ended up getting. 164 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,440 But still I mean. For a for a program that's been 165 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,760 down as much as that program has. 166 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,080 It's great to watch. Them have this type of season 167 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,640 and you know, obviously everything's going. 168 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,120 To change. It looks like Josh Schertz is. 169 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,800 Going to head to Saint Louis after this. 170 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Which I don't blame him. You know six years, $12 million 171 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,800 contract and and a. Higher caliber of league. 172 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,960 And so she had. To do as a head coach, if is 173 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,840 move up, so we'll see what happens. 174 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,680 With Indiana State, hopefully they can hire somebody up and 175 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,480 coming who can really help to make a difference and and keep 176 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,880 that program. Up in the upper reaches of the 177 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Missouri Valley, 'cause it Really. 178 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Belongs there. As far as I'm. 179 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Concerned like that's. It's one of those. 180 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Programs and. Ball State's kind. 181 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,120 Of in the same. Boat it's like. 182 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,120 You'd really just. You feel like they should be 183 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,640 better, you know, at that. Level at that mid major level 184 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,520 and. Whether it's budgetary issues. 185 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Or whether it's administrative. Issues. 186 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Both have had trouble. You know, Indiana states had 187 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,680 less trouble, I'd argue, than Ball State. 188 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,280 In terms of. Keeping themselves afloat. 189 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,640 But it means so much to fans. And it really does help, but 190 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,280 this is one of the. Things I talk about all the time 191 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,440 in sports. This idea that you are 192 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,240 ultimately. Looking at a circumstance. 193 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,080 Where sports? Are not a distraction. 194 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Sports help to galvanized your community. 195 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,559 Both the university community and the broader community sports 196 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,640 help to bring your alumni back. They increase alumni donations. 197 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,240 They get people fired up about being. 198 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Associated with the school. This is something that, 199 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,360 honestly, I feel Indiana at times has not been. 200 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,560 It's not been a lesson Indiana has necessarily learned. 201 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,960 You know we've had. Administrations that felt like. 202 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,960 Sports took. Away from the academic mission, 203 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 I've always felt that was an unfortunate interpretation of 204 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,640 how sports can operate in these spaces. 205 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,360 You know. Yes. 206 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,240 Are sports different? From what happens in the 207 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,200 classroom, of course, I say that as a person who teaches at 208 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Indiana and you know, has been a professor here for 15 years. 209 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,120 But. That doesn't mean that they're. 210 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Bad and there's a. Lot of things that. 211 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,880 That sports do that. Tie into the overall community 212 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,320 mission of a university and it is important. 213 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:31,560 You may not, you know some people don't want it to be 214 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:33,280 important to fans. They don't want it to be 215 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,960 important to alums. But it's important that your 216 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,400 sports teams are competitive, that they embody a certain. 217 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,480 You know set of characteristics that the culture that surrounds. 218 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,600 Your team can can get a hold. Of and and be proud of. 219 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,120 And when that doesn't happen, you get a lot of people that are 220 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,800 discontented and that ends up negatively affecting donations. 221 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,760 It ends up negatively affecting your public perception and and 222 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,280 the way that. People think about your school. 223 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,200 And for a place like Indiana State, I think it's vitally 224 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,240 important because as higher education becomes more of a 225 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,080 questionable proposition in the minds. 226 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,560 Of certain people as. Fewer. 227 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:13,200 People are going to. College as fewer people are 228 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,720 looking as like. Where am I putting my money? 229 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,720 Why would I want to donate it to that university? 230 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Having. Successful sports teams 231 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,600 provides. Pride. 232 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,440 And it provides an incentive for people to continue to get. 233 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Involved at times when? Perhaps they would question. 234 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Why they were getting involved and so. 235 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,720 I think it's opened a lot of people. 236 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,240 'S eyes in Terre Haute I know from talking with with both 237 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,600 friends of mine. Who who work? 238 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,440 At the university, work in the community. 239 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,080 I think it's helped. To kind of open people's eyes 240 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,000 to. The idea that. 241 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,480 You know, between what Indiana State's done with basketball and 242 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,120 what they've done. With baseball last year. 243 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,240 These are things that can help you. 244 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,560 They don't have to be things that are viewed as distractions 245 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,240 or or. You know, contrary to the 246 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,040 overall. Mission of the University. 247 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,440 So, so again, hopefully. In the end, state can build on 248 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,440 this and and even with the. Departure of the coach. 249 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,960 They can find a way to maintain, you know, competitiveness and 250 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,720 relevance over the course of the next 5 to 10 years. 251 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,720 Let's switch. Gears I wanted to talk a little 252 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,680 bit about. A story that came out a. 253 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:14,520 Couple of days ago. And it was this story by. 254 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Andrew Marchand and Stuart Mandel from The Athletic 255 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,960 regarding. This Super League idea. 256 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,320 In college football. And I got a lot of emails. 257 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,240 I got a lot of texts about this. People are like. 258 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,400 You know, Galen, what is going on here? 259 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Is this is this the end of the collegiate? 260 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Model as we know it and. Certainly the way the. 261 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,640 Story is framed. You would think, oh, this is 262 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,640 going to happen and it, you know, this is going to be a real 263 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,520 problem, but I think there's some. 264 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Key. Issues with the way. 265 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,960 That this has been. Presented that that probably. 266 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,280 Are going to keep. It from ever being something 267 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,920 that we. Have to worry about, so let's. 268 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Start off by talking. About, you know. 269 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,120 What this Super League? Looks like, yeah, I think I've 270 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,480 got. It up here on screen for those 271 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,360 of you. Who are? 272 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Watching the video. But I'm going to just read a 273 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,240 couple of. Paragraphs here the current. 274 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,680 CST, which is the The CST is the is what they're. 275 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,760 Calling college sports tomorrow. Which that you want to talk? 276 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,280 About a dumb. Name for something. 277 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,040 I don't know that I that somebody put like serial. 278 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,000 There hadn't been 3. Or 4. 279 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,200 Focus groups that put college. Sports tomorrow together as the 280 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,960 name of this project. Just come on, we can do better 281 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,160 than that. Anyway, the current CST outline 282 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,680 would create a system that would have. 283 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,280 The top seventy programs, of which Indiana is 1. 284 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,720 All members of the five. Former major conferences, plus 285 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Notre Dame and new ACC member SMU as permanent members. 286 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,880 But would encompass all 130 plus. 287 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,160 FBS Universities, The Perpetual Members would be in 710 team 288 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,920 divisions within an eighth division of teams. 289 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,760 That would be promoted from the 2nd. 290 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,560 Tier and that second tier would essentially. 291 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,560 Comprise the 50 teams. That are. 292 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Leftover, essentially that. Are in the group. 293 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Of five. And there would be a promotion 294 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,920 and relegation system where you could come out of that and then 295 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,960 if. You if you don't do well while 296 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,840 you're. Up in that top ten division. 297 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Probably two or three. Teams get dropped back down into 298 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,440 the. Pool and two or. 299 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,040 Three new teams. Come up. 300 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,040 So the idea is. Well, let's give that lower 301 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,960 division. Of teams An opportunity to 302 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,960 compete against the upper division of teams while not 303 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,240 threatening the. Place of the upper. 304 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Division teams. So you know. 305 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,040 Very, very European. Style approach, it also says 306 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,280 like the playoffs will not. Require a selection committee. 307 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,920 Because there'll be 8. Divisions. 308 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,280 So you have 8 division winners. And eight wild. 309 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Cards, which essentially means that in a A16 team playoff, 14 310 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,840 of the 16 teams would come out. Of the permanent FBS. 311 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Members and then everybody else would fall in below. 312 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,800 So there's a couple of different things that I think I need. 313 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,160 To talk about with this so first. 314 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,840 Of all the idea itself. Structurally is not that bad and 315 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,320 you know. I think a lot of people they 316 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,120 they look at. Conference realignment and 317 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,120 they've. Said, Well, why do we? 318 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,960 Need 16 team or 18 team? Conferences like what? 319 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,880 On Earth is going on there. The big. 10 used to have 10 320 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,480 teams. The PAC 10 used to have 10 321 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,520 teams. The ACC used to have nine teams, 322 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,720 believe it or not. You know, why are we going 323 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,440 bigger and bigger? So this does bring a little bit 324 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,240 more of a sense of normalcy and maybe geographical. 325 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,240 You know. Consistency to these different 326 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,400 divisions. I think that's the. 327 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,720 Idea. That's not bad. 328 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 And you know, certainly, I think if you were going to take this 329 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,680 from like a hey, we got to. Blow the whole thing up and 330 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,280 start over, which is kind. Of the premise. 331 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Of this thing. That's not a bad premise to 332 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,920 start. From it's like. 333 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,640 All right. Let's take all these programs 334 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,760 that through one. Means or another. 335 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Have brought themselves up to this high level. 336 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Of college football. Let's split them back down based 337 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,040 upon the. The the geography that exists of 338 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,320 those teams. Let's not. 339 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Worry about the original. Associations with the 340 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,600 conferences. And let's just set it up like. 341 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,320 That. That's not that bad. 342 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,840 And even the idea. Of no selection committee and 343 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,040 just have like an automatic bid and then a wild. 344 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Card out of each of those. Divisions. 345 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,440 That's also not bad. And then there's some fairness 346 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:13,880 there. It's like. 347 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,720 You. You should win your division, 348 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,920 but if you don't, well, you still got a chance to get into 349 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,520 the playoff. And in the playoff anything can 350 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,000 happen. So I don't hate all of that and 351 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 I like the 16 team playoff idea in general. 352 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 I think that makes sense. That's what they've used at the. 353 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,920 The FCS level for a while. The problem with this proposal 354 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,240 is. No one's going to support it in 355 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,880 college. Athletics because the. 356 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Power in college athletics. Is really with the? 357 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Conferences. And this is something that I 358 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,160 think if you read the article, one of the things that gets 359 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,960 noted. In the. 360 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Article is that there's a lot of problems with the. 361 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,520 Way that the. CST has decided to approach this 362 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:59,920 because you know the ultimately the CST seems to be trying to. 363 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,440 Approach it from the. Standpoint that this is. 364 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,440 About to go bankrupt and it needs saving. 365 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,600 And as a result, we got to blow up the current. 366 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,800 Power structure and we got to. Reconsolidate a power. 367 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Structure around something different. 368 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Which of course is run by the people that are proposing CST. 369 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Very convenient. But it's not a whole lot. 370 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Different from what happened in the 1990s. 371 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,840 When, you know college football used to just be this kind of 372 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,400 disassociated. Group of conferences. 373 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,920 There was no formal national championship and it was the 374 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,720 conferences in the 1990s that got. 375 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Together and said. We can do better than this. 376 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,400 We can make more money. We can consolidate power. 377 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,920 That's where the bowl. Alliance and then the Bowl. 378 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Coalition and then ultimately. The BCS. 379 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,640 And then ultimately ultimately. The College Football Playoff. 380 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Came from that. That is the entire conceit of 381 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,960 that. And as I've talked about on 382 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,200 this. Show before. 383 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,960 It's important to remember the NCAA doesn't make. 384 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Money directly. Off of college football 385 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,880 television the. Conferences and Notre Dame do. 386 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,000 And then that. Gets distributed down. 387 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,920 To individual teams and programs. 388 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,720 And So what you're. Looking at is a group of people 389 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,760 who's trying to argue that the system is. 390 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Broken and is going to go bankrupt. 391 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,359 That's not. Really the case? 392 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,440 That's where the the rhetoric. Around. 393 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,560 College sports, like everybody. 'S going to go. 394 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,200 Broke is is dumb because. When you go and actually look. 395 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,800 At the money, that's. Being used in college sports and 396 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,480 being made and generated through television contracts. 397 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,320 It's it's, you know, billions of dollars. 398 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Nobody's going broke. There's the the way that college 399 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 athletics works. Most of these conferences. 400 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,120 Are. You know their pass throughs. 401 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,800 And most of the teams have set their. 402 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,400 Budgets up so. That they're non profit 403 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,720 entities, so they're spending as. 404 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Much as they're taking. In because that. 405 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,160 Allows them to justify. The idea that nobody's making 406 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,920 money in. College athletics and so. 407 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,960 This is part of this larger. Issue of paying. 408 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Players, you know. Not controlling coach contracts 409 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,120 like all of those financial elements kind of feed in. 410 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,920 So the reason why all this ties back into the CST idea is that 411 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,320 even though the business might look like it's losing money, and 412 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,520 even though the business. Itself and the people who are 413 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,880 going in front of Congress, commissioners and coaches. 414 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Are saying we can't afford all of this? 415 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,640 Well, they can and the conferences know it. 416 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,640 And if the conferences were really in dire? 417 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Shape and if the. Schools were really in dire. 418 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Shape from a financial. Perspective. 419 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,280 They probably would. Have come up with. 420 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,560 This. Idea on their own, but they're 421 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,760 not. Instead what's. 422 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,640 Happening is the strongest. Conferences the SEC. 423 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040 In the Big 10. Are consolidating power. 424 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,760 By trying to grab. As many. 425 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Television properties as possible. 426 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,520 They're trying to. Edge out their competition. 427 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,200 Which in this case. Is the ACC. 428 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,120 The Big 12 and the Now. Former PAC 12 and they're 429 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,280 perfectly fine with. That set of circumstances. 430 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Because then they can dictate the terms the. 431 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Idea that the big. 10. The SEC And their television. 432 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,040 Partners, ESPN, Fox, NBC. Are going to be like, you know 433 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,840 what? You're right. 434 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,480 We should let somebody else run. This and make all the money. 435 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Is is pretty silly, the idea that that a there's money being 436 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,480 lost. Here and B. 437 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,720 That even if there was money being lost, that this group of 438 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,560 people would voluntarily cede control to other people. 439 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,360 Who so that they could make money off of. 440 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:20,760 It I think to me it's the greatest distillation of the 441 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,600 problem. Here. 442 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,160 Which is just that. College sports They're. 443 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,160 Trying to find a way to spend as little money as. 444 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Possible while making as much money as possible. 445 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,720 And they've argued that they're broke, but they're. 446 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Not and they know it and if you're paying attention. 447 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,240 You know it too, so. This will go nowhere. 448 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,520 This will not gain traction. There's no incentive for the SEC 449 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,000 in the Big 10 and ESPN and. Fox to yield any control over 450 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,440 the. Direction that college sports is 451 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,040 going right now. And look, it's not. 452 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Going in a great. Direction but. 453 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,360 The reality is there's there's no incentive. 454 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,720 To change anything right? Now because it's not going in a 455 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,240 great. Direction for the traditional. 456 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,640 Aspects of college sports. But for these? 457 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,160 Upper echelon. Leagues. 458 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,280 I think they. Like the direction that things 459 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,680 are going because at the end of the day, the way things are 460 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,800 trending. They're the. 461 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Ones that are ultimately going to have the. 462 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Final say they're. Going to have the most control 463 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:14,040 and that's the way that they want it, and up to this point, 464 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,200 nobody's really been able to keep them from doing. 465 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,480 That so anyway. We'll talk. 466 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,240 More about this if there's more to talk about, I actually don't 467 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,560 expect. To see a whole lot more the one. 468 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Last thing I'll say if you're a fan of. 469 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,320 European football you'll recognize this, this whole Super 470 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,800 League idea that been that was floated in European football. 471 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,440 Is to some. Degree a battle between. 472 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,480 The domestic leagues and the individual brands within their 473 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,640 leagues that have. Equal or greater. 474 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,880 Market share so like. The Premier League clearly would 475 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,640 not want a Super League, because that would. 476 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Greatly diminish the Premier League, but the Premier League's 477 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,520 pretty powerful and the Premier League and the. 478 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Football Association of England was able to essentially stage a 479 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,160 populist revolt against the idea of a Super League. 480 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,640 But at the but the bedrock of that was the idea that, well, 481 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,040 the Premier League doesn't want to lose its financial place and 482 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,480 they've. Got some weight to throw around. 483 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Same thing with. The Champions League. 484 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Same thing with Serie. A La Liga the. 485 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,440 Bundesliga Like there's there's. A There's a lot. 486 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Of financial. Pressures here that are cast as 487 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,200 other things. But you know, realistically 488 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,720 speaking, what you're. Dealing with is power structure 489 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,560 against power structure. And in this case. 490 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,360 Much like as in the college. Football case, the existing 491 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,240 leagues or the? Existing conferences, that's 492 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,520 where the. Power structure is. 493 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,440 That's not. Going to go away. 494 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Just because a group. Of people comes in and says. 495 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,840 We need to. Have a better idea? 496 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,120 You might have a better idea. Unless it's coming from those 497 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,880 people, why would they give up? What? 498 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,160 They've already got so. The the last. 499 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,720 Last thing I'll say is Indiana should be counting its 500 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,800 blessings. That it joined the. 501 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Big 10 in 1900 and has been a member in good standing. 502 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Because either direction. They're being kind of. 503 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,200 Brought along for the ride. And this is, again, it's a 504 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,000 cautionary tale to some degree. It's why you you have to invest 505 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,720 in football like Indiana has this year. 506 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,120 It's why you have to invest in your. 507 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:10,960 Core sports like basketball. Because if you don't. 508 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840 You you start to lose. Relevance and. 509 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,240 You start to see these much larger brands really starting 510 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,240 to. To put themselves. 511 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,040 In a position where they can. Dictate your terms, so. 512 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,320 Glad Indiana is in this mix and and that either way either the 513 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,080 status. Quo or wherever we're heading 514 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,440 with the status quo or under. This new system, at least 515 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Indiana will be in the mix. I just hope Indiana could 516 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,240 continue to improve itself from a. 517 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,160 A competitive perspective? So that it can stay in the mix 518 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,200 as we move. Forward anyway. 519 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:39,600 That'll wrap things up for us here. 520 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,800 I hope you all. Have a great weekend. 521 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,160 Might have a podcast. Coming out over the. 522 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,520 Weekend we'll see. But if not, if you're in 523 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Bloomington or in Indianapolis, enjoy the eclipse. 524 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,280 If we. Don't talk to you before Monday. 525 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,160 Be safe. Be careful. 4 Crimson cast. 526 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,520 In the back home network, I'm Galen. 527 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,440 Clavio, we'll catch you folks on the flip side. 528 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,360 Bring back the bison. That's all everybody.