1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,800 You're listening to the back home network, presented by home 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:22,200 field, apparel, welcome back to Crimson Cask ale 3 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,000 and Claudia Scott Caulfield joining you. 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,400 It is Sunday morning February 26th and the Indiana Hoosiers 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,900 have swept the Purdue Boilermakers for the 20 22, 23 6 00:00:31,900 --> 00:00:37,800 season, a huge win for IU. Last night as they knock off the 7 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,300 Boilermakers and just completely change the entire framing of the 8 00:00:42,308 --> 00:00:44,700 Season. All in one Fell Swoop, we're 9 00:00:44,708 --> 00:00:48,900 going to talk about that extensively here today Scott. 10 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:53,200 I'm it was funny like the game ended last night and I'm sitting 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,500 next to my wife about 30 minutes after the game. 12 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,500 I'm just kind of checking, you know, texts and tweets and 13 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:02,200 everything and I look at her as like, I'm sorry you like why? 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,400 And I'm like I was prepared for a whole different range of 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,900 emotion than what? Actually feeling right now, it's 16 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:12,600 gonna act, just just a tremendous tremendous 17 00:01:13,300 --> 00:01:15,800 performance by this IU team. We're going to delve into it. 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,900 Scott, how are you doing? How did you process everything? 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,700 Similarly, ya know, and by the way, I go off of Martha mock 20 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:25,200 lady on Twitter. This is a mop. 21 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:27,200 It's not a sweep, we'll call this a mop. 22 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:31,300 Yeah, I watched it last night, my wife and I watched it at the 23 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:33,400 house, we were gonna have some friends over who didn't show. 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,700 And then we let my youngest my ten-year-old. 25 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:36,900 Like I want to say it. Watch the game. 26 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:40,000 It's like, I remember thinking, like, okay, isn't he normally 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,300 goes Valley, 8:30? It's like, all right. 28 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:43,500 Like you're little, you know, we'll keep it close then by the 29 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:45,100 middle of the second half, it can put him to bed. 30 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:46,900 You want 10 minutes to go? And then he stayed up for the 31 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:49,600 whole thing to have. And now it's like, you know, 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,300 just to see the good luck charm, much see if you stay up for all 33 00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:53,900 games. But no, I similarly like after 34 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:56,800 the game I'm like just reading Twitter and like texting a 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,100 couple people and just it's like I can't it. 36 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:01,300 I needed some time to kind of come down. 37 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:05,200 That was that was awesome. Unexpected awesome. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,199 And Lot of takeaways I want takeaways with performances with 39 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:12,100 players where we can put things in the historical context. 40 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:15,400 So yeah, I was I really wanted to call you but I'm like, 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,500 there's enough meat on this bone. 42 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:18,700 Let's save it all for the pods you and I have not talked. 43 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:21,000 So let's let's do it. Yeah, fresh is best when it 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 comes to podcasting as we know here at Crimson cast before we 45 00:02:24,008 --> 00:02:27,200 get started, reminder, we are part of the back home network 46 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,300 assembly. Call the Crimson cast women's 47 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:33,100 basketball show, do the work podcast bracket racket. 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,400 A bunch of different shows. 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They were six and a half Point 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Underdog, according to the point spread or five and a half, it 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,500 was kind of hovering between those anyway. 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,300 Not a lot of people felt like Indiana had a chance to win this 86 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:32,400 game. Myself included, I thought 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,100 Indiana could win the game. I certainly didn't think it was 88 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:38,000 off the cards, but it Been a decade since I you would want in 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,600 Mackay and while they won earlier on this season, you had 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,000 to expect that Purdue coming into this game with a chance to 91 00:04:47,008 --> 00:04:49,600 clinch. The Big Ten title with a chance 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,400 to get revenge for IU, kind of interrupting their momentum 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,800 earlier this month. That all of that would come 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,900 together in a way that would be difficult for IU to face you add 95 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:06,100 in what we didn't know before the game. 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,700 Did, which was that Trace Jackson? 97 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:10,900 Davis would have one of his worst statistical games in the 98 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:14,700 entire season, really? Since, like last year's Illinois 99 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:18,200 game at home or last year's Purdue game at home. 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,000 And if you told me that before the game, I would have been 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,800 like, well this is really, really going to be not just a 102 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:26,800 difficult game. It's going to almost certainly 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,000 be a loss and yet Indiana behind one of the greatest individual 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,700 performances that I've seen somebody put out in Indiana, 105 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:37,900 uniform, especially on the road. Road and especially in Mackey 106 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:41,600 Arena somehow manages, to keep it closed in the first half, 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,800 change strategies at halftime jump out, get a lead and Never 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,300 Surrender the lead. I mean, everybody, I think 109 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:53,000 myself included here was expecting the other shoe to drop 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,700 in that second half and it just never did Indiana managed to 111 00:05:56,700 --> 00:06:01,200 keep a pretty good margin almost the entire set second half of 112 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,300 the second half. I guess you could say and they 113 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:06,000 end up ultimately winning by eight points. 114 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:08,900 For you, you know, coming into this game. 115 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Did you think that there was a chance? 116 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,300 Indiana was going to win this? I mean, did you? 117 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:15,900 I mean clearly there was a chance but did it feel realistic 118 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,600 at all to you before the game tipped? 119 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:23,300 No, no. I mean I had been saying, I 120 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:26,100 think I said it, you partially on this podcast to you like, you 121 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,600 know, the goal here is you lose the game at Michigan State. 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,100 You lose the game at Purdue, you got to win the next two home 123 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:33,200 games, then you're probably locked into a for see that it 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,200 just didn't seem realistic. And I was mentally preparing 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,900 myself to be like just okay with it with a Beatdown, you know, 126 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:43,300 just, let's keep it within 10 or 12, it's not get injured. 127 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:46,000 And it's not just break, any kind of spirit. 128 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:49,500 I didn't see Any path to Victory. 129 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:53,200 You know what's funny is, I love these like, you know, let's say 130 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,600 things that are all true and you know, it's like in 10 15, 20 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,500 years, you know, we can be telling our grandkids about, you 132 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:03,200 know, the four years of Trace Jackson Davis will say, you 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,100 know, it's he was a great player and he was, and as statistical 134 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:09,200 anomalies and he put up huge games, and then they'll say, oh, 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,300 during that time there are some big wins against Purdue like 136 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:13,600 yeah. You know, there was two guys who 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,800 had huge games and those wins against Purdue. 138 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:18,600 It's like, oh well, why don't like well what Is Rob finna. 139 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,500 See who the other one was jailed Hood. 140 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:23,300 Feels like oh the guy killed in the NBA. 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,400 It's like it's it is wild at have two of the last three wins 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,000 against Purdue Trace Jackson. Davis was a nonentity, I don't 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 think we ever would have thought that for either of those games. 144 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:37,900 Well, I will say real quick, I don't not, and he was a non. 145 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:41,000 I will say he was a nonentity in the home game last year that the 146 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,500 Rob Fantasy game, I would not call him a nonentity in this 147 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:44,300 game. I mean his. 148 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,200 But anyway, go on statistically. If I if you said like did to 149 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,000 your point, I'll say it better your the way you said. 150 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:53,700 If you say isn't of 10 points today, the car let's over like I 151 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:56,500 was texting a buddy who was skiing, who wasn't watching the 152 00:07:56,500 --> 00:08:00,200 game and I was, you know, it's like I could feel was putting up 153 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,000 a game and like we're about to win and Jackson. 154 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Davis has 10 points. He's like what? 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Like, none of like none of this makes sense. 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,100 Yeah, so yeah, I know it's no document. 157 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:12,400 And what's really interesting is, he had a bad game, but this 158 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,600 goes to we'll talk about shallow hoods Ruffino. 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,100 My feeling ready to get to him. You know, the other thing I was 160 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:20,000 thinking about this morning, Is this does go to, you know, 161 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,700 people have been us rightfully. So kind of, you know, freaked 162 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:28,000 out about Woodson's ability to make changes or adjustments, you 163 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,200 know. Obviously Trace Jackson Davis 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,500 either wasn't having it. A great gamer, you know, didn't 165 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:35,100 see. But it's like, we didn't push 166 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:38,500 everything through him and have him go for for 20 from the field 167 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:40,299 before we realized he doesn't have it. 168 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,100 Like we basically came in with a different game plan and we 169 00:08:44,108 --> 00:08:46,600 change game plans throughout the game defensively. 170 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,100 We were trapped. EET then we weren't you know so 171 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:53,200 I don't want to get it lost that Woodson has had some great 172 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,900 adjustments with this but no, it was a great. 173 00:08:56,900 --> 00:09:00,000 I mean just an amazing win. It kind of does change the 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,800 trajectory of the season for us like I want to get into 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,200 bracketing, talk about, you know, does this raise our 176 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,600 ceiling? I think it's also funny. 177 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,900 This might just drop Purdue off the one lighting, they are 178 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:15,700 starting to struggle. It's it's just great to win at 179 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:17,600 Mackey. It's great to take, you know, 180 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 they'll end Winning their Big Ten title, that's fine. 181 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:23,200 It's great to take this away from them. 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,300 You know I love to see people. It is fun than to troll, you 183 00:09:26,308 --> 00:09:28,600 know like hammer and rails and go on some of their sites and 184 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,700 see them you know bitching about fouls and it's like you guys 185 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:35,400 shot like 12 more free throws and eating you know, everything 186 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,800 is called for you guys. 12 more free throws. 187 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,300 I mean let's let's not. Let's not, let's not cut it 188 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:44,600 short, pretty shot, 21 more free throws than Indiana did last 189 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,200 night. Now there was a comment on 190 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,900 Twitter from JV 10 we've all been curious at times regarding 191 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:53,500 Woody's sub pattern but this game is seemed every string. 192 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,400 He pulled was the right one. Maybe the best in IU. 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,600 Basketball team has executed a game plan as a complete unit 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,700 since I mean look I think honestly the Purdue game at home 195 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:08,100 in at the beginning of February was another great game plan and 196 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:10,000 it really does. I think you hit on a key Point 197 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,800 here that shouldn't get lost. Woodson has revealed himself as 198 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,200 a coach that is able to set up a game plan. 199 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,300 His players to buy into it. Most of the time, it doesn't 200 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:22,700 happen every time. But it doesn't really happen 201 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:25,400 every time with any coach, you know, Bill self struggles to 202 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,000 have his team execute. They almost lost to West 203 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,900 Virginia this weekend, you know. But I think about the difference 204 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:35,400 between the two games and Trace Jackson Davis is kind of a great 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,100 avatar for the different approaches that Indiana has 206 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:40,600 taken to trying to beat Purdue in that first game. 207 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,600 They let Zack Ed score, pretty much at will he had 33 points 208 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,400 and 18 rebounds on 15 of 19. A shooting Trace Jackson Davis 209 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,100 almost matched him, blow for blow in that game. 210 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:56,800 Trace had, 27 points, excuse me, 25 points. 7 rebounds, one 211 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,500 assist and five blocks in this game. 212 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,900 It, you know, clearly Purdue had decided, we are not going to let 213 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:08,100 Trace Jackson Davis beat us. And so yes, Jackson Davis 214 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:11,300 finishes with 10 points and eight rebounds, but he had seven 215 00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:14,800 assists, he had one assist in the first game and I thought, 216 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,400 especially in the second half once, I use Shooters settled 217 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,200 down a little bit. And once I think they got a 218 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:26,000 better sense of the flow of things Jackson Davis is passing 219 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:30,200 kept generating opportunities for teammates and that's what 220 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,200 we've been asking for most of the season. 221 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,200 And, and for a variety of reasons, the stew kind of worked 222 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,300 perfectly against Purdue, because Purdue was so set on 223 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:42,700 over-committing to playing defense against race tax and 224 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:46,400 Davis and Indiana and Mike Woodson found a way to adjust 225 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 what they were doing now. They were able to do that 226 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,800 because they got a transcend Transcendent performance out of 227 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,800 jail and Hood. Shafi know, I've watched you and 228 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,800 I have both, we've watched IU basketball for a long time. 229 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,800 I grew up in the West Lafayette area unfortunately you know as 230 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,700 an IU fan in Purdue country I've seen a lot of IU Purdue games. 231 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:12,100 I was at the game in 2012 where I you kind of surprisingly one 232 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:15,000 that was the game that kind of felt like it really pushed I you 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,800 over the hump en route to the tournament that year. 234 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,100 Was there in 2013, when I you blooper do out and swept them. 235 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,800 You know, I think about all of the games that I've seen. 236 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,000 I you play in Mackay, there haven't been a lot of Victories, 237 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,700 I cannot for the life of me and I'm sure there was someone that 238 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:32,500 I'm forgetting. I cannot remember a player. 239 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:36,100 Let alone, a freshman, have the kind of game that Jalen Hood 240 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:38,300 Ruffino had for Indiana in Mackey Arena. 241 00:12:38,300 --> 00:12:41,200 I mean, Matt Painter, who's seen more IU /, do games and I have 242 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,200 essentially kind of said the same thing in the postgame press 243 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,500 conference, you just don't see fresh one coming in and doing 244 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:50,300 that. I don't I mean you can't even 245 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:52,500 imagine what I you would have been without Jalen Hurd 246 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:55,300 chiffino's performance because there wouldn't have been a 247 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:56,600 performant. Like there would have been a 248 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,400 game essentially if I you hadn't gotten what they got out of him, 249 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:05,300 but for him to come out play that level 35 points and you 250 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:07,700 know, just he became the offense, he only had two 251 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:11,300 assists, the whole game, you know, Trey Galloway ended up 252 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:14,000 kind of becoming the point guard because Jalen is Ruffino was 253 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,400 scoring so much. I mean, how do you try to wrap 254 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,000 your head around? Around the kind of performance 255 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,200 that he turned to in yesterday for Indiana. 256 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,300 It's all the things you said and, you know, first off, I 257 00:13:25,308 --> 00:13:28,000 would love if we get to know, like, what is Trey, Galloway's 258 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,500 middle name. I need more three name, guys. 259 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:32,000 Now, like with jlidgett Vito and Trace Jackson Davis. 260 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,900 Like, by the way, whoever we recruit just like, if you got 261 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:35,300 three Nate, like, I don't think we go. 262 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:38,000 It's by the way. It's Trey Alan Galloway. 263 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,900 There we go. So that if one of them, you get 264 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:43,800 it to Jeremy gray be like, hey, I want to go three names for the 265 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,900 end, the Iowa game and just, let's start every one of the 266 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:47,800 teams. Can we talk? 267 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,500 Can we talk tray into a hyphen is the big question. 268 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:56,900 Oh hope-filled. Where's The Hyphen hyphen? 269 00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,900 Sure, definitely has to have it, I will say, aye, I'll give Doug, 270 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,900 give Jimmy Jackson's credit last night. 271 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:06,400 You know, he came up at some point during the broadcast for, 272 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,800 you know, Jess is just hitting shots which, that's perfect. 273 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:13,800 You know, is as much as people were failing at workshopping 274 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,200 nicknames for Jay, Leno Cioppino. 275 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,700 That's about as perfect as you get. 276 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:20,200 But no, I mean, look, when you look at that go ahead, yes, 277 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:23,600 yeah, having you You've joked about this all year about, you 278 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,600 know, Trace Jackson Davis, stat line being from the 70s, you 279 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,600 know, again, Jan Hooks, Fino had a stat line. 280 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,700 That was very 70s. That's like I was getting 281 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:33,400 texting, a friend who wasn't watching my, he has like, you 282 00:14:33,408 --> 00:14:36,700 know, he's putting up 33 points, the time he had ended up with 35 283 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,400 my God, you see, hit a bunch of Threes like, no, he's 13 from 22 284 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,500 from the field. I mean, mid-range game just 285 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:44,000 unbelievable. You know? 286 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,500 Well, and it's, it's go ahead. Someone was asking last night, I 287 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:51,200 can't find the tweet. I wish I could about, you know 288 00:14:51,208 --> 00:14:52,500 why? Out of people, criticize, jail 289 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:56,700 and Ruffino shot, selection for a while ourselves included. 290 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:58,500 Like, why are you pulling up with the old some of the 291 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:01,100 mid-range shots? And look, I just want to again, 292 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,900 I want to State. Statistically speaking, the 293 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:08,400 mid-range J is a terrible shot. It is, it is lower efficiency 294 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,400 than a layup and it doesn't score as many points per 295 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,400 possession. Is a three. 296 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:13,000 That's why people don't take them. 297 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:16,700 Jalen Hurd Ruffino is rapidly. Become the exception, like the 298 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:19,400 lone exception to the rule, about not hit, not taking 299 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,300 mid-range J's because he's clearly. 300 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:25,000 With them, he clearly feels like I can make this. 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,300 And yes, there have been games where he hasn't made them. 302 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,700 But to some degree with a player like this, you're going to take 303 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:33,900 the good with the bad, there's going to be some hot spells and 304 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:36,700 cold spells, and when you get this type of a performance, it's 305 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:38,200 like, well, that's why you do that. 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,400 And for him to show up on the biggest stage and just take 307 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,700 shots that Purdue was not willing to defend and make them 308 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:46,500 that completely changes the complexion of a basketball game. 309 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:49,700 No completely agree. And it's similar to why, you 310 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:51,300 know like Zaki these are great players. 311 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Like, he's taking twos but there's such high efficiency 312 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,800 twos, jail hitch. If he knows mid-range is now, 313 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,100 you know, high efficiency, at that level and it adds so much 314 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:04,800 more to this team's game because he does a lot of it off the 315 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,300 pick-and-roll where if he's, that efficient hitting twos. 316 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:11,300 And then you have a trace Jackson, Davis on the, on the 317 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:14,000 other side of the Roll, who's that efficient on the post? 318 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,600 It really is no way to stop that. 319 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,300 And you saw it last night that they will produce was like, 320 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:19,600 alright, we're just gonna, you know, we're going to pull back 321 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,700 and defend the post and give him the Rains like okay, that he's 322 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:24,800 going to get hot. You know, I go back to what I 323 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,400 saw in the mission after the Michigan State game and I don't 324 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,000 think we had a pot. So but as a couple different 325 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,300 times, you know, that Michigan State game, one thing that I saw 326 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:37,300 that I really liked out of jail of the Cioppino is, he came down 327 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:40,000 and he shot an air ball. And the whole crowd was chanting 328 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,800 airball airball airball whatever this is. 329 00:16:41,808 --> 00:16:44,400 And that's an East Lansing. Also a very tough place to play 330 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:47,600 immediately. Next possession came down, 331 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,200 little curl, hit a shot. It's like, okay, this dude's got 332 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,800 something. This guy's not scared of the 333 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,400 pressure. He's gonna go at it and he's 334 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,900 able to take it and you saw it last night, it was like on 335 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:01,800 display. He was the most poised person on 336 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,800 the court. He was the person who looked the 337 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,700 most unflappable mowing at times Purdue looked more shook. 338 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:10,200 Just by the in vo they were almost overhyped. 339 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,400 And no I mean the thing that I wanted to get to is he hasn't 340 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,200 put together the full season resume yet we still have time 341 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:22,500 but But, you know, unfortunately, I, you just 342 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:26,400 hasn't had enough one and dones to really make a list up. 343 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,200 But I mean, to me, it's like you were talking about the, the, you 344 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,300 know, the performances you seen against Purdue. 345 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:35,900 I think about, you know, who are the best one and dones, we've 346 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:36,800 had it. Indiana. 347 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,200 And it's like, Eric Gordon has always been at the top of that 348 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,900 list and I think Eric Gordon had probably a better full overall 349 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,900 statistical season. But when you factor in the 350 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:49,400 injuries and the factor in some of these high-level performances 351 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,600 and the That we still have the end of the season, where you 352 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,800 basically at this point near Gordon season was kind of like 353 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,600 done based on factors outside of his control. 354 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,600 You know, this he jail had Speedo could end being the best 355 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,500 one and done Indiana's ever. Had an unfortunate a short list 356 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:08,600 but you know he's the best one and done you know maybe the 357 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,600 question is have we have we seen in the Big Ten in a number of 358 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,300 years but the fact that he's that high on my Indiana list is 359 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:17,500 about I was trying to think, like it simmer airport. 360 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:19,300 That's right, you know, question for you, I don't know who else 361 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:20,300 you would have. Of there. 362 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:22,800 Well there I mean there just aren't many to choose from 363 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,200 obviously I mean, even Isaiah Thomas wasn't a one and done 364 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,800 because that didn't really exist during that time period. 365 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,300 I mean I was thinking about it from a slightly different 366 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:37,800 perspective which is I can't remember a freshman or really a 367 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,200 player who was quite looked quite like and played quite like 368 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Jalen Hurd Jiffy no in Indiana history Gordon's the one that 369 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,000 you think about because I mean clearly it's like NBA ready, you 370 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,300 know needed a little bit of I did develop but once they got 371 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:54,300 going it was like, whoa, you know? 372 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:59,000 But with Gordon was like even though he was clearly a superior 373 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,500 basketball player from what Indiana had been used to really 374 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:06,100 for that last 15 years, he you saw something in him that you 375 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:08,600 was reminiscent of previous players, you know? 376 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 The it wasn't like completely out of left field. 377 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:13,900 I really can't come up with an analog for Jalen. 378 00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:17,700 Atrophy no I mean a guy you know a 65 point guard with the kind 379 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:22,100 of handles that he's got who can I shoot who has no conscience 380 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:28,700 you know who's able to write you know and yes he's you know he's 381 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:30,200 a freshman. He's struggling at times 382 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,700 defensively. He struggles at times with games 383 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:35,400 where he's not shooting the ball particularly well but when he's 384 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,100 on he's about as talented, a guard. 385 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,700 As I think I use had that is clearly like engineered 386 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:45,700 physically for the NBA mean, Yogi Ferrell grew into a really 387 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:48,700 good guard who's gotten some time in the NBA, but there's 388 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:51,100 those are two. So Totally different types of 389 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:53,700 players. And, you know, I just, I can't 390 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,800 remember a guy kind of out-of-the-box quite as ready 391 00:19:57,100 --> 00:20:00,400 for these types of moments. And it's a weird thing for an IU 392 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,600 fan to think about because, you know what, you hear over and 393 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,900 over again, this whole idea about the NCAA tournaments, 394 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:08,400 like, it's, you know, you got to have a guard that can go get you 395 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,100 a bucket in crunch time because it's something you can't scheme 396 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:13,700 for, and that's essentially what. 397 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:17,000 Jail,', no, did, or should I say, Jordan hood, cheffy. 398 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,800 No, as they mentioned on the broadcast, it It's what he did 399 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,800 in this game. It Purdue schemed, frankly 400 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,400 brilliantly. They absolutely smothered. 401 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:29,500 Trace Jackson Davis every time he tried to get the ball, like 402 00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:33,900 it was a on steroids version of what Michigan state did to tjd. 403 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:38,000 And the game earlier this week and gentlemen, Jaffe. 404 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,600 No was able to step up and do something that Purdue could not 405 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,400 scheme against, which was, I am going to drive. 406 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,000 I'm going to go to the opposite hand, I'm going to pull up. 407 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,200 I'm going to take shots when you try to stop the pull up, I'm 408 00:20:48,208 --> 00:20:49,800 going to drive by you and Lay It Up. 409 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:54,700 And everybody, I mean if you go back and watch the tape you'll 410 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,000 see Purdue players like purposefully not. 411 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,900 Trying to jump in because they're expecting him to pass 412 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,100 the ball to trace Jackson Davis because they're thinking there's 413 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:07,100 no way this guy is going to hit these shots and he did. 414 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,500 Now we've seen games where he didn't and you can look at this 415 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,200 and you could say, well there was some luck involved but 416 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,100 there's luck involved in every basketball game. 417 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,300 The fact that you have a guy who goes out scores 23 in the first 418 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:18,900 half on the road at a notoriously, difficult place to 419 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:22,000 place it on the second team. That's beaten Purdue in Mackey 420 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Arena and unlike that Rutgers game which was I mean, producer 421 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,100 21 that they kind of lost it. The Very end. 422 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,600 This one. I you seize control of, with 423 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,400 about 14 minutes left in the second half and it was by that 424 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,600 point. Jay, Leno, trophy know, it kind 425 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,000 of morphed out of the I have to score every possession role and 426 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 was able to draw Defenders off of other players and that's what 427 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,300 made it. So fascinating, was that, that 428 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:47,100 metamorphosis in his game mate and he still scored down the 429 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:49,900 stretch, he had that beautiful teardrop on the Baseline that 430 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:52,000 put into the backup. I liked, and I think with about 431 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,800 three minutes to go, he was able to do that when he needed to, 432 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,300 but it wasn't like he had to do it every possession and it's 433 00:21:57,300 --> 00:21:59,300 that. Combination of physical gifts 434 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,600 and his mental Acumen in situations like this. 435 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,000 That I find just hard to get my head wrapped around as an IU 436 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,200 fan. I love it, it's just not 437 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,800 something we see very often here, know when you hit on 438 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,300 something that is so true. That the dichotomy of his game 439 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:17,400 between the two halves because in the first half I think he had 440 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,900 like twenty three twenty four point or 27 and he had he had 441 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:23,400 probably 23 and 23 in the first half I believe. 442 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,300 Yeah. And I'm a thinking, like, God, 443 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:27,700 is he gonna go for 40 or 42? Because at that point say, He's 444 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:30,400 the only thing working in the offense but then your point it's 445 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,400 like it's dead on in the second half. 446 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,200 He's taking, what's coming to him, they're playing him 447 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,500 differently and he's getting other guys shots and were 448 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,600 rotating the ball, all the way around me a couple of times. 449 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,400 We had great rotations where you put your fee know, either drew 450 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,600 the defense to him and got Miller, Capo wide open three or 451 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,800 he drew it to one side. Then we just rotate it three 452 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,300 passes around to, you know, Trey Galloway in the quarter know, 453 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,900 the fact that he changed his game in the second half and 454 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:57,900 still was able to kind of manage the offense even with not A ton 455 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,900 of assist for kind of moving things around and kind of having 456 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:05,300 a bunch of hockey assist. It was, it was amazing to watch 457 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:06,000 it, you know? Yes. 458 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,400 He, you're gonna look back and be like, oh, there's that one 459 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,100 and 12 against Maryland. You know, he's a volume shooter 460 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,600 and that's you know that's what makes him a great NBA Prospect 461 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,500 and make some a great player. And this, you know, I don't want 462 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:22,100 to get too crazy but it does you're going to go back and 463 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:25,700 relook and and I'm as guilty of anybody of, you know, getting a 464 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:29,400 little bit too caught up in the moment but But you know seeing 465 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,600 him Blossom like this and you can see this coming, you know, 466 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,200 that he's had games, you know, he went eight for 14 against 467 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,100 Purdue in the the last time they played for 16 points and we had 468 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:44,800 21 points against Michigan. The he's had this, he's had some 469 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,800 moments where it's like not at this level but he's had some 470 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,200 really good moments but this does I think kind of reframe the 471 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,400 season a bit where we had that stretch we lost three or four 472 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,100 you know losing to Rutgers Arizona Kansas And being 473 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:01,500 Nebraska and you and I were there at the Arizona game and 474 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,000 it's like, you know, we're there the night before I had heard 475 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,900 from a friend that you know, Hood feel is not going to play 476 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,100 again. It's like, all right, well, 477 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,500 least we have tjg. It's like you tell me that now 478 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,700 like, hey, you tell me tomorrow gets I we don't you know, 479 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:15,000 Channel his fee. No I most of the Jordan thanks 480 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,700 to you. Hey girl. 481 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,000 You know it's like you'd be like wow that's a really we may not 482 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,700 win and so you look back it's like all right. 483 00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:24,700 Well of course we lost three or four you know Sheila Jaffe do is 484 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:27,500 out. It does reframe this. 485 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,600 The season a little bit. And yeah, it was it was also the 486 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,900 other thing that I really enjoyed seeing, you know, is 487 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,200 that hopefully at some point we'll see that, you know, if we 488 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,500 get Xavier Johnson back but all you can go off of as, you know, 489 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:47,100 bench reactions and what you're seeing on TV but nobody looked 490 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,200 happier for Hood, sophina than Xavier Johnson on the bench like 491 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Xavier Johnson was going bananas, looked like he looks so 492 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,500 engaged. So excited will see it's all 493 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:58,000 different when guys get on the Work. 494 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,300 But it does feel like if we get him back it's going to be an 495 00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:02,900 additive. It's not going to be like oh now 496 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,800 we have two alpha dogs fighting for who's in charge of this 497 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,700 team. It does feel like you know, the 498 00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:12,300 that that may not be an issue if we ever get Xavier back but I 499 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,100 don't want to dwell on Xavier because he's, you know, we don't 500 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:15,700 know. Yeah. 501 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:18,900 But yeah. Anyway that's what we'll talk 502 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,600 about that scenario a little bit later on is we did have some 503 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,200 questions about it so we'll tackle that a couple of the 504 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,000 things that are worth noting. First of all, I mentioned the 505 00:25:28,008 --> 00:25:30,500 game plan a little bit earlier from Mike Woodson. 506 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:34,400 I think one of the things about this game that may get lost in 507 00:25:34,408 --> 00:25:38,100 the shuffle that was really obvious to me as it was going 508 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:41,300 on. Was Indiana, completely changed 509 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:45,500 their defensive approach on Zack Ed to start the second half and 510 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,800 it completely flummoxed. Purdue for the exact six or 511 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,500 seven minutes that I you needed it to in order to take control 512 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:53,300 of the game. You know, in that first half, 513 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:56,000 they kind of left racetracks and Davis or whoever was in the post 514 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,700 on an island. Trying to deal with Zach Ed. 515 00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:02,900 And he had a tremendously efficient and dominant, first 516 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:05,300 half of offensively. And then like, as soon as the 517 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:08,800 second half rolled around Indiana, just starts jamming him 518 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,400 in the post. They there they have double 519 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,400 teamed him constantly and Purdue didn't really know what to do. 520 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,300 They didn't know who to throw the ball to, they didn't know 521 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,900 who should take shots. They could not get the ball into 522 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:20,300 eating. I'll eventually they managed to 523 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:23,000 figure out ways to do so. But by that point the damage had 524 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,900 been done and you know I really think that Mike Woodson deserves 525 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:29,100 a tremendous Amount of credit for the patient's. 526 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:33,000 It was kind of a risk because if I, you hadn't gotten the game 527 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 that they've gotten out of jail and Ruffino in the first half 528 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,000 and they've been down by like ten as opposed to four at the 529 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,900 end of the first half. I don't know if that strategy 530 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:46,200 ends up working but because they played as evenly as they did, it 531 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,100 allowed them the ability to essentially spring a trap on 532 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,400 Purdue the Purdue couldn't get out of in time and by the time 533 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,100 they did Indiana knew what they were doing and it was getting 534 00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,000 good contributions from all over the Floor. 535 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,300 So that to me, you think about all the little nuances? 536 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,700 Somebody mentioned the substitutions earlier, even 537 00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:08,100 that, I mean, you know, for Woodson, to be able to manage 538 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:12,200 the number of players he had with so many fouls because of 539 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,400 the just bizarrely one-sided calls that were coming 540 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,800 throughout the course of that game and they have nobody foul 541 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,900 out, you know, be able to keep a rotation of post players in 542 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,400 there that could defend ET and still be able to play the kind. 543 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,500 Of physical defense that they needed in order to, you know, do 544 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,800 something against EDI and the second half I think is probably 545 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,900 one of the more underrated things about this win for 546 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,700 Indiana. And it's something that frankly, 547 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,800 that kind of did that kind of matchup that kind of strategy 548 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,800 that kind of adjustment at halftime. 549 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,300 We didn't see for several years with IU basketball and it's 550 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:51,000 almost again, kind of like the Jalen Jiffy. 551 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,700 No. Think it's kind of jarring to 552 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,500 see it all of the sudden because it's like something that we had 553 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:57,400 just forgotten could exist with IU basketball. 554 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,300 Ball. I almost don't want to talk 555 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:01,400 about other people, besides jail Hood your feet. 556 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,000 Oh but I will this was a game. I had a really good friend of 557 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,500 mine Teddy on the west coast who texted me and he's like you guys 558 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:10,300 are just way too hard on Trey Galway and maybe so he had a 559 00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:12,600 really good game. But I think it's a fair point 560 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,700 that a lot of the role players. Yeah. 561 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:17,400 In this game. You know that you and I have 562 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,600 been I think again rightfully kind of complaining about that. 563 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,100 They all provided exactly what you need. 564 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,700 I mean Kayla Banks maybe didn't have it but that's a freshman 565 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,100 two minutes who cares, you know. Like Like, You Know, Tamar 566 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,600 Bates, who we I've been on a little bit, you know, he came in 567 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,400 gave you 11 minutes and didn't take anything off the table and 568 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,000 really that's all you need of these guys to do. 569 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,200 But they were adding things, especially defensively. 570 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,100 The other thing that I really like to see defensively. 571 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,900 You saw it a lot in the second half. 572 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,700 They were still pressuring Purdue but they were kind of 573 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:49,700 taking a step back and they were tipping a lot of those passes 574 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:53,300 going into the post, they were being very active hands, hands 575 00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:56,800 up, always jumping and they had two or three that I can result 576 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,700 in like to see. Holes where they just they were, 577 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,500 you know, be able to hit the ball before it even got into the 578 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:04,300 post. And so you just had an entire 579 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:07,000 team that was locked in. And I think this is all we've 580 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,500 been asking for from our, our bench is, can you just come in 581 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,100 and not take anything off the table? 582 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,600 I don't, you know, we don't need to Barbados to come in and go 583 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400 546 from 3B awesome. But it's like, I'm not expecting 584 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,200 that, but we got out of Tomorrow. 585 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,700 Bates was exactly what I've been looking for is great, defensive 586 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:25,700 play, and just not kind of taking things off the table by 587 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:28,600 pushing things offensively. And I think that was great, you 588 00:29:28,608 --> 00:29:33,300 know, Malik were new headache at a really good game didn't foul 589 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,000 out, but I think he provided the minutes that needed to happen 590 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,700 now. So, I, it's man. 591 00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:41,500 I mean, it's just such a great wind when it Mackey, doesn't 592 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,700 happen enough but it and the team kept their composure, I 593 00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:50,900 will say this, you know, the one thing that is there and it's, 594 00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,500 you know, it's concerning but it's also that Purdue is one of 595 00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:57,400 the better hustle and, you know, rebounding teams out there and 596 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,900 Offensive rebounding teams. There is a couple minutes couple 597 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:05,100 moments there in the second half with you know 7 45 minutes to go 598 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600 one-possession in particular where they're like off the 599 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800 approve. Got like five offensive rebounds 600 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,600 but they did produ missed a lot of Threes that I feel like could 601 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,100 have could have brought that game back a little bit or at 602 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,900 least made it a little bit tighter than ended up being. 603 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,600 And we dodged a couple of bullets where we gave Purdue 604 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,100 extra chances. But again, I I think that's 605 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,700 that's good. Phil room stuff, it's good stuff 606 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,700 that you can work on. I can't say it's like wasn't 607 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:33,800 good effort because they were putting out effort all over the 608 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 place and it did a little bit of a homer should. 609 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,400 It did feel like just a lot of the bounces were going, always 610 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,100 straight to Purdue guys and not a lot of teams you're going to 611 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:47,300 face maybe one more time with Purdue in the Big Ten 612 00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:48,400 Tournament. Like not a lot of teams are 613 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,300 going to have a dude who's 74, who's just Elite? 614 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,200 It getting offensive rebounds and so you know, I'm willing to 615 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,100 talk some of that up but I will say that We gave Purdue a lot of 616 00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,100 extra bullets to put themselves back in the game. 617 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,900 They just didn't convert on those, as well. 618 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:06,000 Look, I think it's important to keep in mind that you're still 619 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,100 going up against a 74 guy, who's very good at rebounding. 620 00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:13,800 I mean, Purdue is really staked, maybe, maybe, you know, in 621 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,700 error, they've really staked their success, to being able to 622 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,700 get shots up and get offensive rebounds off those shots to the 623 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:24,700 exclusion of a lot else. And so, you know, I get what 624 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,400 you're saying, but I also think overall, There were going to be 625 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,500 some things that I you had to sacrifice in this game and they 626 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,600 sacrifice the right things. And that's where I think 627 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,000 Woodson, really shined through. In terms of, they didn't try to 628 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,700 force the ball to trace Jackson Davis. 629 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:41,500 When it was clear, that it wasn't working, the couple of 630 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:46,400 times they did in the first half, he was not having a great 631 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,600 experience and the pivot that they made in the second half. 632 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,700 And the idea that, you know, you could play different ways. 633 00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:55,600 I mean, honestly, this is a little bit of what we've been 634 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,300 hoping Indiana would do like that. 635 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:04,400 Last night, we've we've been concerned so much about I use on 636 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,500 like or inflexibility, I guess you could say. 637 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:10,700 In that everything seemed to be running through Trace Jackson 638 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:14,200 Davis at all times offensively and that ultimately is one of 639 00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:17,500 those things that you don't want to be like that because if it 640 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:22,100 breaks down suddenly, you don't have a second option. 641 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,500 And that's honestly it's funny like if I'm Purdue I'm coming 642 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:30,100 out of this game and I'm A lot more concerned about that than I 643 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,200 am Indiana. Because Indiana just went on the 644 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,900 road beat, Purdue with a significantly below average. 645 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,300 You know, point total from Tres Jackson Davis. 646 00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:43,700 Now he contributed another ways, he grabbed some rebounds in the 647 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:46,100 second half, he had some great passes that led directly to 648 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:49,200 baskets. But this is the versatility that 649 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,300 I think the the projection before the season that said 650 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,400 Indiana was a big ten title favorite, it could be a 651 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,500 contender for the What you saw in that game last night, is why 652 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,500 people said that because it was like, well here you have and 653 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:05,000 this is even without Xavier Johnson. 654 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,900 You've got an All-American candidate in the post. 655 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,500 You've got one or two guards, who can handle the ball, shoot 656 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:17,100 the ball, and pass the ball, and you've got role players who can 657 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:18,800 knock shots down. And you know you mentioned the 658 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,100 tree Galloway thing earlier. Yes we've been harsh Entre 659 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,500 Galloway and the whole Supporting Cast at times 660 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,300 Galloway, maybe more than others perhaps. 661 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,800 Unfairly but Galloway has really blossomed over the course of 662 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,900 this month. Really? 663 00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:34,100 Just last month and a half. Woodson mentioned in the press 664 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,600 conference himself and I think what you're finally seeing out 665 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,700 of Galloway is a guy that's getting over or gotten over the 666 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:42,900 hump. He knows he has to shoot some 667 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,300 games when he's open, he needs to take shots. 668 00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:48,200 He was, he was looking for shots from the perimeter. 669 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,700 He wasn't just automatically deciding to drive in. 670 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,500 You want players that are confident enough to do that. 671 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:57,000 And also, you want players, who can jump into passing Lanes, he 672 00:33:57,008 --> 00:34:00,500 had that Great disruption in the second half of, I think it was 673 00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:03,400 an entry pass from Newman that he intercepted and was able to 674 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,200 take down the floor. And and, you know, they scored. 675 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,600 He had that great interception and lob to trace Jackson, Davis 676 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,500 that put Jason Davis in double figures and kind of ice the game 677 00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:17,100 like Galloway. Now to me is a far different 678 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,800 player than Galloway at the beginning of January was. 679 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,300 And again, I feel like you don't get that tray Galloway without 680 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:26,900 the Xavier Johnson injury, because you don't have Trey 681 00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:31,500 Galloway, we having to play 30 to 35 minutes of game having to 682 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:34,900 go out and grind against Big Ten competition night in and night 683 00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:36,300 out. And I think the same thing with 684 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,199 Jalen Jaffe. No, I don't think you see this. 685 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,699 Jalen Hurd chafee know without him being forced into a role 686 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:44,800 where I mean played 40 minutes last night on the road at 687 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,900 Mackey. This is a kid who. 688 00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:50,900 Yeah, he's probably got the legs for it, but when you see so many 689 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:55,600 freshmen wilting down the stretch Purdue's backcourt, you 690 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,800 know this season. To watch Caleb Noe Trevino 691 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,000 going. The opposite direction is a 692 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,500 testament. First of all to how well he has 693 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:09,900 matured as a player and be Mike Woodson's faith in him to mature 694 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,400 as a player. And you can say that Woodson 695 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,100 didn't really have much of a choice here. 696 00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:16,700 But I really think as much as people lament like Bates, not 697 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:20,600 being more of a contributor or you know, Geronimo not being 698 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,700 more of a contributor realistically the you know the 699 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,100 little bar has been raised so high now What we expect out of 700 00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,800 jail, met Ruffino, and Trey Galloway. 701 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,200 And a lot of that is because they have seized the moment, and 702 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,900 it doesn't show up in absolutely every game. 703 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,600 But as we talked about on this podcast, not every team is going 704 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,400 to win every game, down the stretch, and you're going to 705 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,100 have a Michigan State on the road, every once in a while, but 706 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:45,600 you're also going to have games like this. 707 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,000 So I want to go back and just really quickly, like I miss said 708 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000 something at the start of the pot, I didn't mean that Trace 709 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,700 Jackson. Davis was like a nonentity. 710 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:55,300 I just meant like, statistically, from a point 711 00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,600 perspective, you look at that, that was Kind of my joke but I 712 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,000 reading some of the produce stuff it's like they were 713 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,500 taking, you know, the oh this this is Player of the Year 714 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:06,700 likely CT, just showed why he's Player of the Year and in a 715 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:09,600 weird way it's like I'm kind of like, actually I think this 716 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,500 shows my Trace Jackson. I know I thought there were 717 00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:14,200 things like it's like, this is probably why he might be player 718 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,200 of the year because he had a game where he still affected. 719 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,900 He had seven assists. He still was effective when he 720 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,200 wasn't scoring, I don't CED be able to do that. 721 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,700 Anyway, that's all. No, I I agree with that. 722 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,300 I think that I saw that same. I think it was Jared just the 723 00:36:28,308 --> 00:36:31,700 lightest from one of the radio stations in Lafayette. 724 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:35,600 And, you know, it really does illustrate the dichotomy, like, 725 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,000 you know, Ed is clearly an excellent player and as an 726 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,100 efficient score, and he is essentially the sun around, 727 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:46,300 which Purdue basketball orbits. But when things broke down, and 728 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:49,200 when ET couldn't score Edie had nowhere to go with the 729 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,100 basketball. Like, he really he could, he 730 00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:54,100 can't pass effectively out and I don't blame him. 731 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,200 He's not really, he's a receiver. 732 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,500 Like you have to feed feeds a key D because he has to eat on 733 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:01,600 his own what race tracks and Davis. 734 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,700 Had a bad game. Offensive ly from a shooting 735 00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:07,100 perspective but he generated like 16 points off of assists. 736 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:11,000 I mean, and this is a guy who's not doing it from the high post. 737 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:16,600 He's doing it from the Baseline, you know, that is a the 738 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,300 pick-and-roll that Indiana started to run there in the 739 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,400 second. Half that Beautiful Exchange off 740 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,600 the pick-and-roll between tjd and Trey Galloway that led to 741 00:37:25,607 --> 00:37:29,400 the trace Jackson Davis lately. That to me, that doesn't happen 742 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,100 without Trace Jackson Davis, being such a threat to pass the 743 00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:35,000 basketball because you now have to respect him in a couple of 744 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,400 different ways and, you know, you don't quite have to do that 745 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,700 with Zach Edie. Clearly, you can't, you can't 746 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:45,600 game plan around his rebounding ability but you can game plan 747 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,100 around him not being able to get good receptions in the post and 748 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,800 not be able to get good shots up. 749 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,500 And so, I do think that from a value perspective, you can use 750 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,000 Trace tracks and Davis and several ways. 751 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,500 I still think he's going to win. A or the year because that's how 752 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:02,000 the media work on these things. But I don't think that last 753 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,700 night demonstrated anything of the sort when it comes to like 754 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,500 the relative strengths of the two players. 755 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,700 So when you were talking about you know Trey Galloway and the 756 00:38:09,707 --> 00:38:13,500 growth, totally agree with, we're seeing the growth in jail 757 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,300 and the Chaffee know this this taking the lens out just a bit. 758 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,100 It's almost been like the theme for our podcast, this season of 759 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,800 you know as Indiana fans were not used to X. 760 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,600 It's like we're not used to this right? 761 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,200 Used to Fresh. Coming in like this, like we're 762 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,100 not used to this, we're not used to it. 763 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,700 You know, seeing this I think the other thing that maybe you 764 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:37,200 know, we're not used to is we're turning into the profile of a 765 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,200 team that does well, in March, which is, we're way different 766 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,700 than we were in January. Like we've grown were different 767 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,300 and you go back and look at that. 768 00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:48,300 Again, the Rucker is Arizona, Kansas stretch, like this is not 769 00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:51,600 even close to the same team we had then and this is also 770 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,700 something that we just haven't had historically as Indiana fans 771 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:58,000 in the last 10-15 years is normally If we look back 772 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,900 lamenting lie at like, you know, the North Carolina game this 773 00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:02,500 year, like oh man, remember we were good. 774 00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:04,900 Like now we're just, you know, puttering down the stretch, you 775 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,000 know, trying to grab any Eddie, hope to get something going in 776 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,200 March. And we're just falling apart or 777 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,700 different this year. Like, this is, this is what 778 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,600 Michigan state has done for 20, 22 years, maybe not this year 779 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,200 with, after the loss, to Iowa, but we'll see. 780 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,200 But you also a Michigan state has built their bread and butter 781 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,600 on for 20 years is they start off, they get their ass kicked, 782 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,900 they have some issues, they struggle They and then by the 783 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:31,200 end of March, in Michigan, State's case for like, wow, 784 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,000 they're going to win the Big Ten and be like a two-seat, like 785 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,500 they're going to plow through March, and plus the tournament, 786 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,300 and there are a way different team than we. 787 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,700 I remember seeing them in January and we're doing that, 788 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,900 and it's really cool to see. And we're seeing guys grow into 789 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:47,900 roles and we're coming more Dynamic and it as Indiana, it's 790 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:51,400 awesome to be that team where it's like, yeah, we're evolving 791 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,400 and some of the mistakes and lessons that we took in December 792 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,500 and January are actually leading Eating toward us winning and 793 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,400 I'll just emphasize this point with this. 794 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,000 I had another friend of mine just say you know. 795 00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,000 Hey man. Like you guys went nine and two 796 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,600 in the you know at a stretch in the Big Ten that we've now gone 797 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,800 ten and three, not as great sounding but still good. 798 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,800 He's like dude, I will take nine and two in the Big Ten at any 799 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,300 point. Any like I don't care any kind 800 00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,600 of you know, well this happened that you're playing this guy's. 801 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,900 It doesn't matter. Like you went nine and two in an 802 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,800 11-game stretch, the Big Ten, we've now, gone ten and three in 803 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,400 the 13 game stretch, like we Are changing and becoming a better 804 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,300 team at the right time. Unlike you know any other year 805 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,700 this we're talking about you know where does Hood Fino fit. 806 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,500 Well when's the last time that we had a team that was really 807 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,700 peaking at this moment because I think of like you know last year 808 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,800 they turned it on for 36 hours. Like that was a team that was 809 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,900 DOA going into the Big Ten Tournament turned it on. 810 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000 You know, I think if the number one, you know, the maybe that's 811 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,300 the that year is Yogi Ferrell, they won the Big Ten, they were 812 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:57,800 definitely coming on that year. Even the, the 13 season where 813 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,900 they're ranked one of the country. 814 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,500 I think we all kind of agree like this team felt like it was 815 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,300 starting to run on fumes near the end. 816 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,400 You'll maybe the 2012 year but that was more the end of March 817 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,900 like I can't think of a year. I mean its history, we've turned 818 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:13,400 it on like this I would say I think 2012 is the answer, you 819 00:41:13,408 --> 00:41:14,900 know? Because if you people remember 820 00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:17,400 as we've talked about, they were five and six in the Big Ten and 821 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,700 then they won all. But one of their remaining games 822 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:24,700 in conference down the stretch and I mean because I mean all of 823 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,600 them were a little different. I would actually argue like Team 824 00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,100 that team was playing fine. They won some big games at the 825 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,700 end but they were kind of at the same level all year 2016. 826 00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:38,100 They clearly one out there but then they lost in the Big Ten 827 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,200 Tournament. I mean it wasn't like they were 828 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,700 you know on our on a constant upswing. 829 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,800 Yeah there's a different energy. Now, I will warn, you know, 90 830 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,400 warns the wrong word but I will I will caution everybody to pump 831 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600 the brakes a little because this is still a team that's lost two 832 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,600 out of their last four. They did lose on the road at 833 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,000 Michigan State. You're going to have that. 834 00:41:57,100 --> 00:42:01,400 That as great as Jalen Hood pheno played in the game last 835 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,800 night. He's also had games recently 836 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,800 where at least offensively he struggled from you know shooting 837 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,400 the basketball you know as great as Trey Galloway played last 838 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,800 night. He's had games where he 839 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,500 struggled. But I think what's important 840 00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:19,200 right now is that it feels and looks I think body language more 841 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600 than anything else. Like this team has a different 842 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,900 vibe about it than what we are used to seeing at this time of 843 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:28,100 year. And you know, I look at that 844 00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,700 most is in the play of guys like Miller cop, like cop looks far 845 00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,800 more engaged now on the floor than I think I've ever seen him 846 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,100 as an IU basketball player has been that way for a few games, 847 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,200 you know. He still has some defensive 848 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,200 lapses but he's taking shots, he's hitting shots. 849 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,000 I look at Trey Galloway. I see the same thing. 850 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,900 Jalen atrophy, no always looks the same. 851 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,200 You know, he always looks like he's just kind of locked in and 852 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,700 just going possession by possession, you know? 853 00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:57,000 But it does feel like there is a certain energy that surrounds 854 00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:01,800 This team that feels different. Now, this is still a team that I 855 00:43:01,808 --> 00:43:05,200 think is very susceptible to bad shooting games. 856 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,000 It's still a team that if they don't have the defensive 857 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,300 intensity up as happened in that Michigan State game, they can 858 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:15,300 lose ground quickly but the fact again that they have one, you 859 00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:18,000 know, as many games as they won they were one in four in the Big 860 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,600 Ten the morning of the 12th of January. 861 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,000 They're 11 and seven right now to have gone tendon 3 over the 862 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,900 course of these last 13 games. And to be projected to win both 863 00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:31,500 of their remaining games by 6. They need to win both of those 864 00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:35,100 games for a variety of reasons that does make you think gosh, 865 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,600 this is a team that even with those speed bumps at 866 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,900 Northwestern and Michigan state is hitting on the right 867 00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:44,100 cylinders on the right days, they're not hitting on all 868 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:45,400 cylinders. When this team has on all 869 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,200 cylinders. Like, if you get, if you get 25 870 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,000 out of traced, 25 and 10 out of Trace, Jackson Davis, and you 871 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,400 get 16, 16 and 9 out of. Yeah, they are. 872 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,800 They have all of the pieces. Has the question for Indiana is? 873 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,400 Will those pieces actually come together at the right time? 874 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,200 I really think that getting out of February, getting out of the 875 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,900 Big Ten. Could be the best thing for this 876 00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:14,000 team because they are so hard for teams that have scouted them 877 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,700 in-depth to defend and play against. 878 00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,200 When you start to get into teams that haven't been able to do 879 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,400 that. I think that'll be something 880 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,100 that this Indiana team could potentially take advantage of. 881 00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,800 So yeah, so it's a bathtub. Wait, I was thinking of that, 882 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,400 you know, like I'm just going off, you know, hasn't updated 883 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,500 Bracketology but, you know, they play like Oral Roberts in the 884 00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:36,000 first round. Then a matchup against Iowa 885 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,700 state in the second or something like that. 886 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:39,100 Who can you know? I'm not saying it's right. 887 00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:42,300 But like, if you're Iowa State, how do you prep for this game? 888 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,100 I mean, obviously you do and, you know how to, but it's like 889 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,100 now, it's like we got to basically Double J. 890 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:48,500 Look at your feet. Oh, we got a double Trace 891 00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:49,900 Jackson daily. There's two, dudes. 892 00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,300 You got a double or we got to figure something out. 893 00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:53,700 Like, we can't on the pick-and-roll. 894 00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:55,800 Like what do we do? Because we got to be high and we 895 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,600 got to be low. And I think it's that you're 896 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,000 going to see a lot of teams in the tournament probably pick one 897 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,200 of the other and then it's like I can the other one be even 898 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,800 though I think we become a unbelievably hard team to scout 899 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,800 on like two days prep. Yeah. 900 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:16,300 Now that's 100% 100%. It's it is absolutely a it's a 901 00:45:16,308 --> 00:45:21,100 fascinating team to try to get your head wrapped around from a 902 00:45:21,107 --> 00:45:23,200 scouting perspective on short rest. 903 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,900 And you know the other thing about it is that I don't know. 904 00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:30,200 How many teams are going to be personnel-wise capable of 905 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,200 Defending Trace Jackson Davis, and all that he does and Jalen 906 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,600 Hurd chafee know and all that he does Point. 907 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,900 Yeah. And and again the key to 908 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:43,800 unlocking this team from an IU perspective, can they pass the 909 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,200 ball out to the three-point line and have guys take shots and to 910 00:45:46,207 --> 00:45:48,500 me, like one of the biggest changes that we've seen is that 911 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:52,700 Miller cop is actually catching and shooting, you know? 912 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:55,200 Yes, he missed a couple in the game versus Purdue but he also 913 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,100 hit a couple Trager. Always catching and shooting 914 00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,600 Jalen. Atrophy, no, can move to his 915 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,900 left, pull up and take a 3, like that threat. 916 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,600 Should when you're not playing a team with the guy that's 74 in, 917 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,800 the post, should open up even more opportunities for IU as 918 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,600 they move forward. It is really exciting to watch 919 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,400 all of that kind of coming together and I think ultimately 920 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:21,100 there's a feeling among IU fans like, you know, out last night 921 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:25,000 watching the game. It's kind of like the if you've 922 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,700 been out in a crowd, you know, What the vibe feels like when 923 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:32,300 the fans aren't confident in players doing certain things. 924 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,300 And I'm noticing even that's changing like the crowd reaction 925 00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:40,400 to Trey, Galloway shooting a three is no longer kind of like 926 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,800 that. Oh, it's more like there's an 927 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,100 anticipation there that's positive because you feel like 928 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,100 it's got a pretty good shot of going in and I feel that way 929 00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:49,900 about cop as well. Like it's almost to the point 930 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:52,000 where you're shocked when cop doesn't hit a three. 931 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,600 Yep and that is a big change from what it's been over the 932 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,700 course of his two seasons. Is here at IU. 933 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,200 We had a bunch of questions and comments from Twitter. 934 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,400 I wanted to get to before we wrap things up because we've 935 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,500 already gone, 47 minutes as we are want to do. 936 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,200 So, let's see, where shall We Begin? 937 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,000 So we had a bunch of questions about the Savior Johnson thing, 938 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,600 you know, because we still haven't seen Xavier Johnson. 939 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,400 A lot of people have rumored that, we might see him back in 940 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,200 this Tuesday game. So, we had a bunch of people who 941 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,300 wrote some version of this. I'll tell use the one from the 942 00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,100 balcony. How does Woodson ensure we 943 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,000 maintain continuity with ex back in the starting lineup. 944 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,600 He should start of healthy, but really curious to see how we get 945 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,500 through that period. So we talked about this a little 946 00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,800 bit on a previous podcast, Scott. 947 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,400 I mean, first of all, I think that the expectation, that X 948 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,300 would come back like fully formed and ready to play and 949 00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:51,700 start is probably far-fetched. I mean, this is a guy who has 950 00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:54,500 not played competitive basketball since mid-December, 951 00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:58,500 he's dealing with a broken foot. Put that is not something that 952 00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,700 you just come back from and be like, hey, I'm here. 953 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,500 It's it's going to be something that is going to take time for 954 00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,600 him to integrate back into the lineup. 955 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:13,200 You know, I guess my answer on this is that ultimately when you 956 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,800 look at the way that this team is now constructed, the ability 957 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:23,600 to have a player, come off the bench and be there, instead of 958 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,500 like the Tamar Bates minutes right now or be Love spell 959 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:29,900 Galloway for an extra few minutes so we can maintain a 960 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:32,900 level of intensity throughout the entire game or take some 961 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:34,200 pressure off a jail in a jiffy. No. 962 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,500 And let him get a little bit of rest. 963 00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:37,900 Like that's really what I think people should be expecting with 964 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,900 Xavier Johnson. I don't know right now that you 965 00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:43,400 mess with the starting lineup. I mean the hood should Fino 966 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,500 Galloway. Cop Thompson, Trace Jackson 967 00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:52,400 Davis line up with, you know, Malik renew coming in at times 968 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,400 in the post. Like that seems to be working. 969 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,800 Okay, offensively at least and What I worry about with, with X 970 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,000 is mostly like his stamina and his defensive abilities. 971 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,300 Like, I think offensively they'll be some instinctive this 972 00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,600 there, but trying to cut and do all the things you have to do. 973 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,900 It'll be interesting to see how much he can actually perform on 974 00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:15,000 the defensive end. I use kind of blessed right now 975 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,400 because if they get him back, they can use them in spurts. 976 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,800 They don't have to have them, come back and play a huge amount 977 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,300 of minutes. And I think that's probably the 978 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:25,200 wisest way to go about things. I don't know what are your 979 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,000 thoughts on this right now? I'm going to take your side a 980 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,400 little bit, unlike, you know, the pump, the brakes a little 981 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,300 bit on the optimism in that there's tons of minutes to go 982 00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:36,700 around. Like if he can provide 983 00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:39,000 something, it's like they're, you know, this game against 984 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,600 Purdue. We basically had five guys play. 985 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,300 Like tomorrow, Bates played, 11 minutes, Malik renew played 10 986 00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:45,700 Geronimo, played for Caleb Banks played to. 987 00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:50,000 So you had a rotation of seven guys, two of those playing 21 988 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,300 minutes combined. So there's if Xavier has 989 00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:56,200 something to provide, I'm actually not concerned at all 990 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,800 about where you fit, The rotation because there's a ton 991 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,400 of minutes out there to be grabbed. 992 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:07,000 I agree with you but just I will take the the counter just just 993 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,000 for fun, you know, the logic and putting him in the starting 994 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,800 lineup is as long as you can get, you know, Galloway. 995 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,400 So I think that would be the role he goes into understand 996 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,600 like hey man look you didn't do anything wrong but we're doing 997 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,500 this. You'll still probably get 35 998 00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,000 minutes. We're just going to deal. 999 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,600 We're going to Xavier is going to play eight minutes. 1000 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,200 We're just going to play too. At the start and then we'll 1001 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,800 spread them out. And we're just going to bring 1002 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200 him in because, you know, he's the starter and he earned it. 1003 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,100 And also this, you know if you can get trade to understand that 1004 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:36,600 you're still getting the same number of minutes, probably 1005 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000 still gonna close the game. I do think maybe it gives you an 1006 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,700 interesting wrinkle where you're moving those minutes around but 1007 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,000 all of that said you know it's I've been saying this for a 1008 00:50:47,008 --> 00:50:49,000 while you know people who think we're going to get a fully form 1009 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,200 Xavier Johnson, you know, don't expect that. 1010 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,900 I also think we're getting, you know, we haven't had any 1011 00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,000 information on this. I think we're getting to the 1012 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,900 point. Pretty close to Tuesday night 1013 00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:02,500 where I think if you don't see him playing Tuesday night, you 1014 00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:06,300 may not see him this year. Like this is as as just a guy 1015 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:08,500 watching from the sidelines. Like it feels like if you're 1016 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:11,100 going to bring him back and just give him some opportunities for 1017 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,800 some wins, you know, mentally and physically. 1018 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,200 It feels like this to game stretch would be perfect like 1019 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,900 you have two games there at home. 1020 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,900 The opponents are right, like it putting him then in the Big Ten 1021 00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,300 tournament in the NCAA tournament, those, those are now 1022 00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:26,500 way tougher putts. So it does feel like if he is 1023 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,000 going To play at any point this season. 1024 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,200 These next two are the perfect time to bring him in. 1025 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,100 At least, give them a couple of minutes. 1026 00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,100 Yeah, I know, I see that. I think you may not see him this 1027 00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:38,100 year. I agree. 1028 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:41,500 I think the fact we haven't seen him back yet, it's got to be an 1029 00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:43,900 indication that there's something about his medical 1030 00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:47,700 situation that isn't quite there and you don't want to rush him 1031 00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:51,100 back and you don't need to. I mean, you know, and look 1032 00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:52,800 Indiana's not getting this type of performance. 1033 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,500 Every game, and I think a lot of it is, can you get out of the 1034 00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,600 doldrums of February and if Come out. 1035 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,200 On the other side it's clear to me like what separates Indiana 1036 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,700 from being a second weekend team and something, a team that can 1037 00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:07,100 legitimately go deeper is that one extra piece, you know, 1038 00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:09,500 because they really don't have a lot of depth, they can kind of 1039 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:13,900 go six, if they get a good game out of Malik renew and that's 1040 00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:19,100 about it right now, you know, that's, that's unfortunate. 1041 00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:22,300 It's just kind of the brakes. And, you know, will I think 1042 00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:24,900 always kind of wonder what the potential of this ceiling. 1043 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,600 The ceiling of the Season could have been If you hadn't had the 1044 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:34,200 injury in the Kansas game, but at this stage the fact we 1045 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,700 haven't seen him. I think tells us that if we do 1046 00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,300 get him back and I hope we do, it's probably going to be 1047 00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:42,800 unlimited minutes and it's going to be a much different setup 1048 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,300 from what people are used to seeing. 1049 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,900 And I think Woodson of all, you know, of all the potential 1050 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:51,400 coaches, I think he understands that having been injured himself 1051 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,300 having, you know, managed rosters for as long as he's 1052 00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,600 managed them. It's it's Be tricky. 1053 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:03,000 But I also think that you can tell from X's comments on 1054 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,800 Twitter from his actions and reactions on the bench. 1055 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,500 Like he wants to get in and try to contribute somehow if he can 1056 00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:11,600 he will. I don't see this as being a 1057 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,800 chemistry issue. I really don't because I think, 1058 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,800 you know, if he doesn't quite realize that he will very 1059 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,900 quickly like there's some physical limitations on what 1060 00:53:19,908 --> 00:53:22,500 he's going to be able to do. And I think Woodson smart enough 1061 00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,900 to know and have enough control over things to say look we've 1062 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,300 Got something good going here. If I'm going to use you it's 1063 00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:31,400 going to be judiciously. And so I think a lot of the 1064 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,400 questions about where you play him and what he does. 1065 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,500 I think those are kind of probably going to be proven to 1066 00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:37,200 be Elementary after a little bit. 1067 00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:42,600 Let's see. We've got some other questions 1068 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,300 here. We had a bunch of questions on 1069 00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:46,700 these on the hook. If, you know, they had a lot of 1070 00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:49,800 questions about the Big Ten Tournament, Pat, Corbett asked 1071 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,100 what's the ideal draw for the Big Ten Tournament when the next 1072 00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:54,400 to. But how do we want the cards to 1073 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,700 fall? Do we care about Big Ten? 1074 00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:59,200 Tournament wins. Um, you know, Midwestern views 1075 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,100 asked, can you break down the top, four seed, race and tie 1076 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,200 Breakers and where I use stands if they'd beat Iowa Tuesday? 1077 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:09,200 So I'll be honest, I've joked. It's almost easier to project Us 1078 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,300 in the NCAA field. Now, where we fit in the Big Ten 1079 00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:14,400 tournament, it's a big mess. I mean, so I will say, I will 1080 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:20,300 say this, like, if all, if the home team's hold serve for the 1081 00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:23,600 most part today because you've got Maryland. 1082 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,900 Northwestern Michigan Wisconsin, Ohio State Illinois, Penn State, 1083 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,600 Hers, if Maryland, Michigan Penn State Alwyn and Illinois wins on 1084 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,800 the road and then Indiana wins at home versus Iowa and you know 1085 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,100 kind of the what you would expect. 1086 00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:42,400 The outcomes would be for the remaining games happen. 1087 00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:48,800 Essentially that would leave us in a situation if I've done my 1088 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,900 math correctly, where you would have Indiana. 1089 00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:55,400 Second overall in the conference Purdue would be first. 1090 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,400 Indiana, would be second Marilyn in Northwestern would be tied. 1091 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,100 And I believe that would mean that actually Illinois would be 1092 00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:07,100 tied in this scenario as well, but Maryland would get the three 1093 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,700 Northwestern will get the for Indiana. 1094 00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:10,300 We get the five. It's important to remember how 1095 00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:14,400 the Big Ten Tournament sets up, you know, one, two, three, and 1096 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,800 four get double Buys. So they don't play till 3:00 or 1097 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,900 4:00 till Friday. Ohio State in Nebraska and 1098 00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:24,100 Minnesota Wisconsin. A pretty much locked in to the 1099 00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:28,900 11 14 and 12 13 games. Then you've got, you know, 1100 00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:32,800 essentially five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten all playing 1101 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,200 on Thursday, if Indiana was the two seed. 1102 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,700 This is where you can't really project and I it's hard for me 1103 00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:40,800 to say, like what's the best scenario? 1104 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,200 So let me take this in a couple of different directions. 1105 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,900 First of all, do we care about Big Ten? 1106 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:48,800 Tournament wins, that was that's I think a nice overarching 1107 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,000 question. I think that what we care about 1108 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,800 more than anything else is can Indiana, whatever the game 1109 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,700 Outcome have something that doesn't harm their tournament 1110 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,100 chances first and foremost if they win these final two. 1111 00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,200 So if they go 12 and 8 or 13 and 7 in conference, I guess you 1112 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,900 guess it would be. Now obviously I think we we 1113 00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:10,400 really do need to win the final two. 1114 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,800 I agree. We're I'm kind of like I think 1115 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,300 all of the optimism and everything that I'm feeling is 1116 00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:17,800 kind of based on, maybe it is stupid assumption. 1117 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,200 Like, we're going to win the next. 1118 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,000 Yeah, I do think if we stumble in one of these next, to some of 1119 00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:25,600 my feelings will change a little bit, but it's based on like, 1120 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,900 wow, we're going to finish the Game on a three-game win because 1121 00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:31,100 with the way we play at home, yeah we just should win these 1122 00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:34,700 final two which sorry last thing I'll say this is where at the 1123 00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:38,400 beginning of the Season. We always look at the schedule 1124 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,200 is like man, that's a tough end. Way to end this. 1125 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,900 That's like we always need to remember. 1126 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:45,600 Like it really just depends on home on a way because you don't 1127 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,400 know what teams are going to be. It's like we were like, man, 1128 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,900 Ohio State. It's going to be a rough one in 1129 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,600 January. It's about wasn't they suck? 1130 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,500 You didn't know that. But like having the last two at 1131 00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,700 home is so nice when everyone else is kind of doing a 1132 00:56:55,707 --> 00:56:57,900 homeowner anyway. So it's But all the to be is 1133 00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:00,100 based on, we got to win the next two at home. 1134 00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:02,900 That really is imperative for everything else, especially to 1135 00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:07,400 we get to NCAA seating. So sorry to have won 11 games 1136 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,000 and had the last two at home against whoever, let alone to 1137 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,600 get two teams that are like smack dab in the middle of the, 1138 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,800 of the of the standings. That that's about as nice of a 1139 00:57:17,808 --> 00:57:20,200 setup as you could have. Anyway. 1140 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,800 So I look at it like this Indiana. 1141 00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:27,000 So I threw a scenario in and essentially, it was kind of Of 1142 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,300 hewing to what you would expect, all the games to be. 1143 00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:33,400 And in this scenario, Purdue would face the winner of 1144 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,500 Rutgers. Michigan, Northwestern would 1145 00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:37,400 face the winner of likely Illinois. 1146 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,300 Nebraska, Indiana would face the winner of Iowa Penn State and 1147 00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:43,500 Maryland would face the winner of like Michigan state 1148 00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:47,000 Wisconsin. So if Indiana were to, you know, 1149 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,900 beat Iowa on a neutral floor, that's a nice wind that's going 1150 00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:53,000 to help, but even if they lost to Iowa on a neutral floor, 1151 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,800 heaven forbid, that would never happen. 1152 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,800 I don't think that that would hurt Indiana. 1153 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,900 The only thing that really hurts. 1154 00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:00,400 Indiana. And the Big Ten Tournament from 1155 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000 a seating perspective is if they lose to a team that's either on 1156 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,900 the bubble or outside the NCAA tournament. 1157 00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:12,300 That said, if you were to win that 27 game and make it to 1158 00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:15,700 Saturday and you're playing, maybe Maryland, maybe Michigan 1159 00:58:15,700 --> 00:58:18,500 State. Like now you've essentially put 1160 00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:23,500 yourself in a spot where unless you get destroyed in that game, 1161 00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:26,400 you're probably not having an impact your seating one way or 1162 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,700 another. Do you know the at that stage? 1163 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,700 You're not going to prove anything to the committee that 1164 00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:36,600 you haven't already proven and you know, certainly they don't 1165 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,800 factor in tournament Conference tournament games quite as much 1166 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,700 for teams like Indiana because Indiana did what they had to do 1167 00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:45,700 last night. Like they won in one of the 1168 00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:47,900 toughest places to win in college basketball. 1169 00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:51,600 I mean, they're only the second team to win at Mackey this year. 1170 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,200 That is something that's going to matter more than almost 1171 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,800 anything they can do in the Big Ten Tournament. 1172 00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:01,600 So you know, I'm excited because Indiana has a legitimate shot if 1173 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,800 they win that first game to potentially win the Big Ten 1174 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,600 Tournament because I think being on the opposite side from Purdue 1175 00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:12,200 is going to give you an opportunity to play either 1176 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,600 Maryland or Northwestern teams. I think Indiana can beat on a 1177 00:59:15,607 --> 00:59:21,000 neutral floor, you know? That's, that's a great Pathway 1178 00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:25,000 to get yourself into a championship game. 1179 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,300 And even though the championship game, frankly, It wouldn't 1180 00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,100 matter from a seating perspective. 1181 00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:32,200 Because for those of you that don't know the tournament 1182 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,500 selection committee by the time, the Big Ten championship game 1183 00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:39,200 starts on Sunday, the brackets pretty much done like, they've 1184 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,200 they've seated this, the first eight or nine lines, they're not 1185 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,700 going to flip things around at that point. 1186 00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:47,000 It's not going to matter. Unless you've got a team that 1187 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,800 wouldn't make the tournament unless they won the game, then 1188 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,900 they'd have a contingency bracket that they would make 1189 00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,400 that would be a separate scenario that they'd have to go 1190 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,500 to. But in this case, since we've 1191 00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:58,300 never been there, Thought you could have said like for those 1192 00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,400 of you who don't know, the Big Ten championship game is 1193 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,000 actually played in hat in quarters. 1194 01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:03,700 So when do they play in an 8-foot goal? 1195 01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:06,300 It's like, you know, what could happen there is, like I could 1196 01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:09,000 play the Boise State blue Court like who knows that we don't 1197 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,600 know. My even they're one of my 1198 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:16,300 favorite stupid factoids about myself is that I broadcasted the 1199 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:20,700 only IU appearance in a Big Ten Tournament title game which was 1200 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:26,900 2001 when they played Iowa Iowa. It was me, John Cole. 1201 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,600 Wouter, Matt wrote a Walden, Brenda Stidham on that call. 1202 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:34,800 And that was, I mean, it's fascinating because, you know, 1203 01:00:34,808 --> 01:00:37,200 the tournament was only like four years old 5 years old, at 1204 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,800 that, he was 4 years old at that point. 1205 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,900 And it just, it was like, okay, well, this is interesting, we 1206 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:45,000 weren't sure about this Big Ten Tournament thing, but I'm sure 1207 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,900 we'll be back to this multiple occasions. 1208 01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:50,900 And it's literally been 22 years since and then back it, but it 1209 01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:55,900 was in the United Center and it's certainly, it's is Within 1210 01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:58,600 Reach and it A great psychological thing. 1211 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,500 Although the flip side of it is given that those games, aren't 1212 01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:02,900 really going to matter that much. 1213 01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:05,800 You know, someone asked a question earlier on, like, do we 1214 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,100 want to win games in the Big Ten? 1215 01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,700 Tournament would be rather just rest racetracks and Davis's back 1216 01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:13,100 and I'm like, well that's a that's a legitimate question to 1217 01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:16,000 some degree, you know, you finally have a team that can win 1218 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,400 the Big Ten tournament and it's like, well, it may not matter 1219 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,500 because this team's got bigger fish to fry. 1220 01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:24,700 So to speak in terms of what they want to do in the big 1221 01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:26,500 tournament that comes up immediately afterwards. 1222 01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:27,900 But that's a essentially, the scenarios. 1223 01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:30,400 I mean right now to go back to the original question. 1224 01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:35,600 I would say there's the wind last night, put Indiana in a 1225 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,500 position where they're in really good shape. 1226 01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:40,600 If they take care of these final two games, to pick up the 2 1227 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,900 seed, in the Big Ten. Now, if Northwestern beats 1228 01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:47,100 Maryland today and that games at noon, so may already be over by 1229 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,500 the time you folks are watching this. 1230 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,900 That puts Northwestern in the driver's seat because 1231 01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:54,000 Northwestern unfortunately has the tiebreaker. 1232 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,800 But the thing is even if that happens. 1233 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,600 Indiana is going to be the three seed, which there's not much of 1234 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,400 a difference. It would not even in the teams 1235 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,600 and we're going to decide it for new and not even in the team's 1236 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,800 you're going to play. You're almost certainly. 1237 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,500 If you're in the two or the three, you're almost certainly 1238 01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:14,400 going to match up against Michigan State, Iowa, or 1239 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,100 Michigan, depending on how the other results fall. 1240 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,100 That's your group. That's the group. 1241 01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:20,900 That's kind of clustered around that five six. 1242 01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:24,500 Seven Rutgers could actually fall all the way to 8th, but you 1243 01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:26,600 might end up with Rutgers in that mix as well. 1244 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:29,900 I'm not really scared of any of those teams on a neutral floor. 1245 01:02:29,900 --> 01:02:32,800 I'd be scared of them on the road but I'm not that scared of 1246 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,200 them on a neutral floor. So that's that's what I would 1247 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,800 look at. I think Indiana last night. 1248 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,600 They it was so important for them to win that game because it 1249 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,700 really handed them back to steering wheel of how the rest 1250 01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:48,500 of the seasons going to go and I think they've earned it clearly 1251 01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:50,900 and it's really exciting to watch Indiana being in a 1252 01:02:50,908 --> 01:02:55,400 situation where that's the situation moving forward, a 1253 01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:00,000 couple of questions. That let's see. 1254 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,500 JB asked, obviously Jordan was Unreal. 1255 01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,100 I thought Galloway played extremely well in all facets. 1256 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,200 Jalen, yep. Sorry Jalen zero turnovers in 38 1257 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,100 minutes for Galloway. What would your grades be for 1258 01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:14,500 each player? Who logged minutes last night? 1259 01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:16,500 I'm not going to, I can't go through all of them, but look, I 1260 01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:20,400 think you look at the stat sheet from this day this team last 1261 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,500 night. Yeah, a lot of players with a 1262 01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:25,400 rating above seven and a half, I mean, look even race Thompson. 1263 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,800 Who clearly struggled offensively. 1264 01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:31,400 Ali gave Indiana five rebounds, you know, had a couple of 1265 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,100 important shots down the stretch, had those free throws 1266 01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:36,400 early. I had a big steel, didn't turn 1267 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,500 the ball over. You know, I wish you wouldn't 1268 01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:41,900 take threes, I've said that over and over again like like racist 1269 01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:44,300 three-point percentage is 10 to 22 percent. 1270 01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:46,300 That's just, that's not going to get the job done. 1271 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,700 But you know what? I felt was, you know, you look 1272 01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:52,900 at Trey Galloway, he was the most efficient player. 1273 01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:57,300 Barely for Indiana offensively, last night, 13 points, You know, 1274 01:03:57,300 --> 01:04:00,400 was 24/7 from to, but was 3 for 4 from three and five assists 1275 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,100 four, turnovers one steel. They don't win. 1276 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,900 I don't think without that performance from Trey Galloway 1277 01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:10,300 but I'll also say, like Miller cop, you know, you ended up 347 1278 01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:13,700 from three and put the ball on the floor drove in and hit a 1279 01:04:13,707 --> 01:04:15,300 couple of baskets. You know. 1280 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,800 We haven't seen that level of game from familiar cop so I was 1281 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,400 really excited to see that as well. 1282 01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:23,500 I mean the whole starting lineup really felt like they 1283 01:04:23,500 --> 01:04:26,800 contributed and honestly I didn't think that anybody from 1284 01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:31,500 The bench took anything off the the, the table either, you know, 1285 01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:34,600 it was, it was just a good all-around performance by this 1286 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,000 team. Let's say some other questions 1287 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,900 for you Alan Jenkins asked when the dust settles on the season. 1288 01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:44,200 Are we're going to look back at the Iowa, Penn State in 1289 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,100 Northwestern losses and think we could have won the Big Ten this 1290 01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:50,900 year, or were those scars needed for this team to build identity. 1291 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,100 I think, as I would go ahead, please. 1292 01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:55,500 Yeah, I would, I would say I've been thinking about that. 1293 01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:56,800 I think it's more the latter my thing. 1294 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,000 Back to like, this is a team that kind of was forged in the 1295 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,300 fire of January and came out a different team. 1296 01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:06,100 Like I think it's, you can't just take all the wins and then 1297 01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,800 say like the T we have now they could have gone back and done 1298 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,900 that. I, I look at it differently in 1299 01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:14,000 that to me. The next two were really where 1300 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,600 we can't stub our toe that if we lose one of the next two then 1301 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,300 it's gonna be like damn we really missed a shot to finish 1302 01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:21,300 the season on the right on the right foot. 1303 01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:23,100 I think it's easy to look back and say damn yeah. 1304 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,400 I mean that Iowa game was there for the taking you know that 1305 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,400 Northwestern game maybe B-but, you know, and I look more some 1306 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,800 of like the Northwestern game on the road that we just had 1307 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,000 February 15th. I think that's the one that I 1308 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,900 kind of look as act and that maybe we shouldn't have gotten 1309 01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:40,400 down as much. But I, I look at this very much 1310 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,200 that this is like, this was all part of the journey, I'm not 1311 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,800 sure we get to where we're at now without some of those 1312 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,300 struggles. And again, it's just like, this 1313 01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:50,500 is a different Journey than a lot of Indiana teams have had in 1314 01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:53,600 the past where we've learned from those mistakes that we've 1315 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,800 come out a different and better team and so, yeah. 1316 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,600 Me. I I don't think I'm gonna look 1317 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,100 back IMA look back at that. Yeah, that was a, we were not as 1318 01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,000 good of a team in January. Like we were a, much better team 1319 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,200 in March and like it had but like there's no world where like 1320 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,300 we just don't play games in January, if we don't lose those 1321 01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:09,800 games, I'm not sure we're good now. 1322 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,400 Yeah, I agree. I mean I think there's two 1323 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,600 things because it's a good question. 1324 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,400 I think a lot of people are going to ask the question. 1325 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,900 Part of it is I don't think that this team is as good as they are 1326 01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:26,800 right now without the losses, early in the Big Ten season. 1327 01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:29,700 Cuz it really did that Penn State loss in particular. 1328 01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:33,700 It really seemed to Galvanize the team and get them to focus 1329 01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:38,000 on what they needed to do. And you look, I think I don't 1330 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,700 think those losses. I maybe a couple of maybe one, 1331 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,500 maybe perhaps to happens. I don't think all three happen 1332 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:46,100 if you have a healthy Xavier Johnson, but if you have a 1333 01:06:46,107 --> 01:06:48,200 healthy Xavier Johnson, as we said, I don't think you see the 1334 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,900 development from some of the other players on this team. 1335 01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:54,800 I don't think that you're seeing quite the response. 1336 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,500 That the bunkering that Anna's been able to do defensively and 1337 01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:02,000 the different facets. They've had to uncover offensive 1338 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,600 ly. So I don't, I mean, you know, 1339 01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:09,300 maybe there's a scenario where, you know, X doesn't get injured. 1340 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,600 I, you know, gets traced Jackson. 1341 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,100 Davis back from injury. They win two of those three and 1342 01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:17,500 suddenly, they're in relief. Now, there's a lot of ifs, but 1343 01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:19,700 this team seems to really perform pretty well with their 1344 01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:23,800 backs against the wall and that stretch of losses that drop them 1345 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,600 to 1 and for put their backs against the wall, I think they 1346 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,200 need Did that I think that that was The Crucible that this 1347 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,100 team's identity had to be forged in. 1348 01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:35,400 And you think about how important that was compared to 1349 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,600 all the teams that I use had over the course of the last 1350 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,700 seven seasons, and how they haven't forged an identity, how 1351 01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:44,300 they've struggled to even know who they are. 1352 01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:48,700 At this point in the season, you know, the you needed this group 1353 01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:51,400 of personnel, you needed this coach and you needed that set of 1354 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,300 circumstances. I think so, I think ultimately 1355 01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:58,400 would love to Big Ten title. I just think ultimately at this 1356 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,400 point, it wasn't in the cards, you're going to have seasons 1357 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,900 like that, where the injuries don't play out properly. 1358 01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,500 And that's fine. And look, Purdue had a 1359 01:08:05,508 --> 01:08:09,400 transcended start to the Big Ten season and they certainly earned 1360 01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:13,700 the Big Ten title, I'm doing my best to reverse jinx this as 1361 01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:17,200 much as I can Scott. It's going to actually work but 1362 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,000 you know it is what it is. And and ultimately you know if 1363 01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:23,800 the biggest confounding factor is who the hell expected 1364 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,300 Northwestern to play this? Well, I mean, if if Drum plays 1365 01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:31,899 the way that everybody expects them to, you know, it's like but 1366 01:08:31,899 --> 01:08:34,600 even with that guessing game it's like Indiana would have two 1367 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,899 more wins. Purdue would have one more win 1368 01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:40,600 because they would have beaten Northwestern in Evanston and 1369 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,000 they would still be a game ahead with a couple of games to play. 1370 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,899 So look, I just don't think it was in the cards this year. 1371 01:08:44,899 --> 01:08:47,700 I think it would have been very difficult for Indiana. 1372 01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:52,200 Even at full strength to have gone 15 and 5 and be in the 1373 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,899 position that they're in right now. 1374 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,399 So you can always have a little bit of a question, the back of 1375 01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:57,800 your head. But I wouldn't dwell on it too 1376 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,899 much when one question for you which is a comment like that 1377 01:09:00,899 --> 01:09:05,000 could there could be no better season for Indiana, Purdue that. 1378 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,300 If Purdue started off hot, they win the Big Ten and then we have 1379 01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:11,500 success in March and they stumble out like that would be 1380 01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,500 the greatest. Like I have fun when the Big Ten 1381 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,700 will go to the final point I'd say we're going to have a 1382 01:09:15,707 --> 01:09:19,200 question for you you know? Bracketology just like produce 1383 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,899 stumbling like they are for the oh there they are. 1384 01:09:22,899 --> 01:09:26,700 You two and four in their last six games, I know it. 1385 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,200 Ends on the teams around them. And someone also has to grab the 1386 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,800 one seed, but are they looking at and stable a seating? 1387 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,800 Are they getting close to losing that, that one line? 1388 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,800 No, I don't think so. I mean, I think they are 1389 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,000 probably the fourth one seed right now because I think 1390 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,200 Alabama is clearly better. I think Houston has you know, 1391 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,899 they've played so well this season. 1392 01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:55,100 They're going to get a 1. Kansas has exceeded produced 1393 01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:58,100 accomplishments on the season. The As far, but there's really 1394 01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:02,200 not a team below them right now. That's a bit, that's a clear 1395 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,900 like, oh, this is a better to. I mean like the two best options 1396 01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:09,800 at this point are Baylor and UCLA will Baylor is closed. 1397 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,800 They had a big win last night at home versus Texas there, you 1398 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,400 know, but you look at their, their resume average. 1399 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,700 It's not as good as Purdue. You look at their predictive 1400 01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:21,600 average. It's not as good as Purdue their 1401 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,600 strength of schedules better, but not like exorbitantly, so 1402 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,000 they've won fewer Road. Games and they haven't won as 1403 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,600 many games against teams in the field. 1404 01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:33,100 So I just I have a hard time seeing Purdue as the Big Ten 1405 01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,800 regular season champ, not getting A 1 C. 1406 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,900 Now the one I do have questions on though and a lot of this will 1407 01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:41,600 depend on how Purdue fairies in these games at Wisconsin at a 1408 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,000 home against Illinois, is UCLA UCLA. 1409 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:49,900 Could very easily finish the season 27 and for they are right 1410 01:10:49,900 --> 01:10:52,500 up there like you want to talk about like where the average is 1411 01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:56,600 aren't kind to Purdue, you know, UCLA's got great. 1412 01:10:56,700 --> 01:11:01,300 Volume depth of wins. They have one less loss than 1413 01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:04,000 Purdue does. And if they win the Pac-12 1414 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,500 outright, I could see a scenario where UCLA gets the fourth one 1415 01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:12,200 seed, and Purdue ends up being the top two seat now that may, 1416 01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:15,900 you know, I UCLA's got more work to do than Purdue does at this 1417 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:18,100 point to get to that point because they still have to play 1418 01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:21,000 Arizona at home. But that would be the one team I 1419 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,600 could see threatening right now. No, but ask me again in a couple 1420 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,300 of weeks and I might have a different answer for you. 1421 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,900 It'd be funny to watch them at piss that away. 1422 01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:31,100 I would also the other Bracketology n-c-double-a 1423 01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:33,100 question. I have for you is I kind of left 1424 01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:36,700 last night being like and again, I'm assuming two wins at home. 1425 01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:40,600 But let's just assume that I think this this now, Harden's 1426 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,100 our floor at the for seat, like it feels like that. 1427 01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:48,900 That is a pretty pretty hard wet cement for seed and now I mean, 1428 01:11:48,900 --> 01:11:51,800 you know, maybe dry cement dry. Yeah. 1429 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,400 Oh, wet cement for seed. That's it. 1430 01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:00,400 With Jordan Hood feet, wet cement for seat is the worst 1431 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,800 Indie band in the history of Music. 1432 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,000 The so here you like for and maybe, well, maybe a shot of the 1433 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,600 three but here's the thing. I'm not sure who the the bracket 1434 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,100 revealed that happened on Sunday had Indiana as the top four 1435 01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:16,500 seed. Now. 1436 01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:21,000 Since then Indiana has beaten Illinois, lost a Michigan State 1437 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,200 and beaten, Purdue on average, they've gotten slightly better 1438 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,800 and teams around them have lost. I mean, if you look at It 1439 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,100 happened yesterday and this was a question we had been a bunch 1440 01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:35,700 of questions on seating and things like that, you know, Alex 1441 01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,500 G asked, you know, how good was yesterday for IU in terms of 1442 01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:41,000 potential seating, come selection Sunday st. 1443 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,300 Mary's lost, Tucan Agra Virginia lost to UNC Miami loss to 1444 01:12:44,300 --> 01:12:46,600 Florida. State, Villanova beat Creighton. 1445 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,700 Oklahoma beat, Iowa State in Ames, there were a couple of 1446 01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:51,300 other games that went Indiana's way. 1447 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,400 I mean, it was a really good day for Indiana, you know, wasn't a 1448 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,500 complete sweep. Would love to have seen TCU and 1449 01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:00,700 Kansas State lose. But frankly, Indiana is 1450 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,900 Indiana's ahead of TCU. Yeah, you're not going to get 1451 01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:05,000 everything that you want. I look at it like this. 1452 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,600 I think that Indiana still needs to win the games that they have 1453 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,400 at home. That's the big factor in all of 1454 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,300 this. Now, both of those games will be 1455 01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:18,300 nice games to pick up, you know, if they beat Iowa, that's going 1456 01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:22,200 to be a tear to victory at home if they beat Michigan. 1457 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,600 That'll also be a tear to victory at home and that will 1458 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,700 give them Eight tier two victories or quad two victories, 1459 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:32,700 and five, quad won victories. That's really that's nice. 1460 01:13:34,300 --> 01:13:36,300 You know, if you look at the teams that are around Indiana 1461 01:13:36,300 --> 01:13:40,000 right now in the bracket, you know what you're looking at? 1462 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,600 Is this basically you've got your your top four seeds, 1463 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,900 Alabama, Kansas Houston Purdue then you've got a shelf and we 1464 01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:50,000 talked about this UCLA's kind of on the border. 1465 01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:54,100 Then you've got Texas, Baylor, Arizona, who lost last night, 1466 01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,500 surprisingly, I would throw Marquette. 1467 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,900 Into that mix. Then then you've got another 1468 01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:02,400 shelf and you've got this kind of weird intermediate thing. 1469 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,600 Like, how do you position? Indiana versus Gonzaga. 1470 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,100 I think Gonzaga probably gets seated ahead of Indiana. 1471 01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:12,800 I think, Tennessee, probably doesn't at this point. 1472 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,000 I think that Indiana's resume is probably, you know, when you 1473 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,900 think about what Tennessee is done and the way that they're 1474 01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:24,000 playing, their predictive Czar better but you look at what 1475 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,300 Indiana's managed to accomplish and it's Indiana's got, you 1476 01:14:28,308 --> 01:14:32,400 know, one less wind, but they've won against better teams by and 1477 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,900 large and their losses are also more impressive. 1478 01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:38,600 So I will be really curious to see what the committee does 1479 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,100 there. I think a three seed is 1480 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:42,800 definitely a possibility. Indiana has to win these last 1481 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,600 two and I think Indiana probably has to win one game in the Big 1482 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,200 Ten Tournament because when you get to that point, like the 1483 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,900 difference between being the 11th or 12th team in the S 1484 01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,800 curve, which would be a three seed and the 13th or 14th team 1485 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,500 on the S curve, which would be a four seat. 1486 01:14:56,900 --> 01:14:59,600 You're talking about minut differences and one game could 1487 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,900 swing it one way or the other, but as I've been trying to tell 1488 01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:06,000 people, you know, Indiana is in a pretty good spot. 1489 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,100 Because getting through that Purdue game means that they 1490 01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:13,700 control their Destiny in a way that a lot of teams around them 1491 01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:15,700 aren't going to be able to do because a lot of the teams that 1492 01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:18,700 they're going to be in conflict with have to play each other, 1493 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,600 you know, Kansas state is going to have to play other Big 12 1494 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,000 teams in the Big 12 tournament at Tennessee is going to run 1495 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,300 into either. Or Kentucky or Arkansas, all of 1496 01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:31,800 those teams, present problems for them in the SEC. 1497 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,800 Tournament Marquette is going to have a gauntlet to run through 1498 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,400 in the Big East. And while they've had a very 1499 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,900 good season, I don't think that they're necessarily like a 1500 01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:42,000 guarantee to finish ahead of Indiana in the s-curve. 1501 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,600 They're actually pretty close to each other. 1502 01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:46,100 So, you know, right now, I think you're right. 1503 01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:48,600 I mean, as long as Indiana doesn't stumble in these last 1504 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,100 two games at home. I think they have a really good 1505 01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:55,800 shot at know, you know, falling no further than a for and 1506 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,100 probably having In a really good argument for 3 because of the 1507 01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:02,400 fact that they've got so many impressive wins away from home. 1508 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:07,200 Now, Purdue Illinois, you know, Xavier like those are just winds 1509 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,800 that Indiana has managed to collect that are going to 1510 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,700 impress the committee. We've seen that happen over and 1511 01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:15,000 over again and so I'm quite fascinated to see how it ends 1512 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,900 up, but they did themselves. A whole lot of favors last 1513 01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:19,200 night. Yeah. 1514 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,600 No, it's, I mean, yeah, I can't think of how many times we've 1515 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,900 been a three seed in the tree. I have to think, I mean we Not 1516 01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:28,300 often. I mean, we were a three seed in 1517 01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:30,800 1986 when we lost a Cleveland State. 1518 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,000 That's, that's a, not a great memory. 1519 01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:35,800 But no, I mean, you know, you go down the list. 1520 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,900 I can do all this from memory. If you want, like they were, 1521 01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:40,900 they were one seed and 87, they were foreseen 88. 1522 01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:44,100 They were a two seed and 89. They were an eight seed or nine 1523 01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,500 seat. Actually in 90, they were a 2 1524 01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:49,000 seed in 91. There were two seed in 92. 1 1525 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:55,400 seed, in 93 4 seed and thinking 94 and then they had that run 1526 01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:03,400 where they went like Eight seed and 95 66 in 96. 897 and then in 1527 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,800 98, I believe they were a seven seed. 1528 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,300 So no, they don't really like, generally speaking Indiana's 1529 01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:12,700 either a six or below or at or above three, seed would be kind 1530 01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:14,600 of an odd spot. Honestly. 1531 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,200 Think, you know, we want to like Game Theory it out, you'd much, 1532 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,800 rather be a three seed this year because I think the top of the 1533 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,300 at large I already did the top of the automatic Add profile. 1534 01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:32,700 Those are some really good teams Liberty you know, Drake VCU. 1535 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,900 There's a couple of others Charleston is in that mix Oral 1536 01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:37,300 Roberts is certainly in that mix. 1537 01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:40,800 Getting a three seed means you get to play a 14 and the 14s 1538 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:46,000 this year right now are, you know, you got Yale, you've got 1539 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,800 Toledo, UC Irvine, Eastern, Washington, Colgate. 1540 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,200 Like not teams. I mean, they're still dangerous 1541 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,300 teams, but not teams, you're going to be that scared of, and 1542 01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:59,000 then, you'd rather play a six. And then a five because I think 1543 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,600 the Shelf between the teams that are in the 45 conversation and 1544 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,700 the team's right below. There's a pretty big Dynamic 1545 01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:09,900 there between those two and so and I look at it as I also think 1546 01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:12,800 you'll even further down the road to me the teams that 1547 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,200 worried me the most or Alabama Houston Kansas. 1548 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,200 I just think they present a lot of problems. 1549 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,300 I think Indiana playing at all. Cylinders firing could beat them 1550 01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:24,800 but also owners have to be firing and obviously if you're a 1551 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,600 3, you would face those Teams in the elite in the elite eight, 1552 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,600 right? Giving them one more round to 1553 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,800 maybe get knocked off. When you play somebody different 1554 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,100 verses pumping, right? Like, and that's the way we talk 1555 01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:37,200 about the 2012 team. Like I've said this all the 1556 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,600 time, many times like that team, I think could have gone to a 1557 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,900 final four if they're playing anybody but that Kentucky team 1558 01:18:44,900 --> 01:18:48,000 in the sweet 16 like they just they got the worst break of 1559 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,800 playing, you know? It's every time I hear it, like, 1560 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,200 you know, just watching PTI couple days ago is like, you 1561 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,400 know, there's no Elite teams like maybe the last elite team 1562 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,400 was that Kentucky team with With Anthony Davidson yeah that's who 1563 01:18:58,407 --> 01:18:59,600 we played in the tournament right? 1564 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,800 And we gave him the best game in that tournament. 1565 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,400 It was like 10 to 290 or something. 1566 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,700 Just a great game and but I think being a three alleviates 1567 01:19:07,700 --> 01:19:10,300 you from bumping into that team in the sweet 16 at least you get 1568 01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:12,100 to the elite eight within. It's like maybe they've been 1569 01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:14,700 knocked off and maybe you just you have that one shot of doing 1570 01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:15,300 it. It's tough. 1571 01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:18,700 I mean look it's one of those things where your it's so 1572 01:19:18,700 --> 01:19:22,500 matchup dependent it really is and and that's, you know, so 1573 01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:25,200 it's like all you can do is put yourself in position and then 1574 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,100 hope that The draw is kind and that's what you saw last year. 1575 01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:32,600 You know, there were teams that just got bad draws in the NCAA 1576 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,400 tournament field that you wouldn't have thought. 1577 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,800 Even before the tournament started, you know, I mean the 1578 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,300 you look at, you know, a team like like Arkansas gets drawn 1579 01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:47,800 last year as a four seed in the west and it seemed like a great 1580 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,600 spot. They're going to play 1581 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,600 Connecticut in the second round. And then gonzaga's been so 1582 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,100 dominant all year. Well, guess what Connecticut 1583 01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:56,900 gets knocked out in the first round, by New Mexico state That 1584 01:19:56,900 --> 01:19:59,700 gives Arkansas an easier game. They barely win that one, and 1585 01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:04,000 then they go in, they beat Gonzaga in the sweet 16, you 1586 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,900 know? But that, that open things up 1587 01:20:05,900 --> 01:20:08,600 for Duke, who was able to roll through and then they, you know, 1588 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,300 they cat got Arkansas in the elite eight, and they win that 1589 01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:13,400 game. You know, Baylor looks like a 1590 01:20:13,407 --> 01:20:17,200 world beater last year. They're the one seed, your UCLA. 1591 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,200 You're like, well crap, this doesn't look good. 1592 01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:22,600 UCLA ends up benefiting from North Carolina, beating Baylor 1593 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,200 or. So they thought and then UCLA 1594 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,400 ends up losing the North Carolina and the sweet 16. 1595 01:20:26,500 --> 01:20:30,300 And so you just can't project how these things are going to 1596 01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:32,600 work out. A lot of, it really comes down 1597 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,200 to some degree luck of the draw. The seating is there from my 1598 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,200 perspective. You want to focus on getting the 1599 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,900 easiest possible game. You can in the first round to 1600 01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:44,100 get out of the first round, as you can get out of the first 1601 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:46,800 round. It suddenly becomes a lot easier 1602 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,100 to get your head wrapped around things and what I like about 1603 01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:53,800 this IU team's chances if they can get past that first game is 1604 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,200 that they are built. To win in a couple of different 1605 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,900 ways offensively and if they can play like they did yesterday 1606 01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:04,900 where they don't turn the ball over, they had one of their best 1607 01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:07,900 turnover offensive. Turnover rate games in all 1608 01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:10,100 season, I think they only turn the ball over 11% of 1609 01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:14,500 possessions. Then suddenly, you're like, if 1610 01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:16,700 you're the opponent and you don't have a huge amount of 1611 01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:18,800 athleticism or you don't have a huge amount of shooting you're 1612 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,600 having to sacrifice something to guard. 1613 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,100 One of the two stars on this IU team and you've got role players 1614 01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,000 that can step up and play the other. 1615 01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:29,900 Other big Point here, is that now Indiana is actually in the 1616 01:21:29,900 --> 01:21:33,400 conversation to go to Columbus as opposed to having to go to 1617 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,600 Orlando or Albany for their first and second round games and 1618 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,900 they're in the conversation to get to Louisville because that 1619 01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:45,200 was my question is Columbus is huge and I get in a bracket 1620 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,700 racket it's fantastic. I love listening to it. 1621 01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:53,100 Just being a three seed, help Indiana, get the Louisville 1622 01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:56,000 region. Well I mean I think it would 1623 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,300 have And what of a variable it could happen for Indiana, 1624 01:21:58,300 --> 01:22:01,600 whether there are three or four and it's largely because of the 1625 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,900 lack of Big Ten teams in the top four seeds, you've got Purdue 1626 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,300 Indiana's not going to be paired with Purdue. 1627 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,000 The what's great for Indiana? Is that because Alabama is going 1628 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,800 to almost certainly be the number one overall and even if 1629 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,000 they aren't there going to be ahead of Purdue in the pecking 1630 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,500 order. Now it means Alabama will almost 1631 01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:26,300 certainly get the south regional and what that means is that Ooh, 1632 01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:28,100 we'll go somewhere else. They'll go to the Midwest and 1633 01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:31,100 Indiana is the next big 10 team and the only other big 10 team. 1634 01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:34,300 As of right now, that's in those top 16 overall. 1635 01:22:34,300 --> 01:22:37,700 And what that means is when you're trying to place teams, 1636 01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:40,300 you can't put Indiana in the same region as Purdue. 1637 01:22:40,900 --> 01:22:43,500 And you're going to try to put Indiana almost certainly in 1638 01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:46,100 their home geographical region or close to it. 1639 01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:48,600 And in that case they would go to the South because they 1640 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,800 wouldn't go to the Midwest. Most likely because you'd also 1641 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,300 want to keep them away from Kansas. 1642 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,800 If there are four, that's the been going to be the one big 1643 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,200 question. It's like where Three or four 1644 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,300 doesn't necessarily matter. What matters is where the 1645 01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:02,400 matchups would be and whether the committee's trying to keep 1646 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,100 teams apart from each other, to prevent rematches before the 1647 01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:08,600 sweet 16. And so I think that the chances 1648 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,200 are good, it's just really going to come down to how the season 1649 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,800 finishes. I mean, seating is one thing, 1650 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,600 but if you can, if you could give me take seating out of it, 1651 01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:21,600 if we can get Columbus Louisville as our back-to-back. 1652 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,900 That's nice. That's take it done, though. 1653 01:23:23,900 --> 01:23:25,900 It's nice right now. It'd be hilarious. 1654 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,000 If you ended up with Purdue and Indiana fans, both in the first 1655 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,400 and second round in Columbus, which is kind of how its setting 1656 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,000 up right now. I mean really like that would be 1657 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,900 wild the one lot of booing and this is the one confounding 1658 01:23:37,900 --> 01:23:40,700 think it's the one thing where I wish Kansas state would lose 1659 01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:44,600 more because Kansas state would probably get Columbus over 1660 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,800 Indiana because they would be slightly higher in the pecking 1661 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,300 order. So, so root for Kansas State to 1662 01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:52,200 lose a bunch of games down the stretch here and route for 1663 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,100 Indiana to win, and that's probably the best solution. 1664 01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:55,900 Anyway, we got a bunch of questions. 1665 01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:57,900 Since we didn't get to, I apologize folks. 1666 01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:00,600 We're almost at the hour and a half mark, so we need to wrap 1667 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,000 things up. Final thoughts before we head 1668 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,200 off into the sunset one. Last question that has to be 1669 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:05,800 done. Good. 1670 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:06,700 Good. Finally. 1671 01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:10,800 What Tuesday night against Iowa? Yep. 1672 01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,200 Let's just, let's just bring it out. 1673 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,100 Now, what is Fran mccaffery going to do? 1674 01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:17,400 That isn't going to get a technical called on him? 1675 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,800 Well, I mean, I think at this point he could throw a chair and 1676 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,600 not get a tech, he saw him stare down the referee, I got a tweet 1677 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,200 them out like that, and then they'll bringing back the Him 1678 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,300 running across the court for the Indiana game. 1679 01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:31,300 Like Fran has somehow, you know, just like Zaki found the 1680 01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:34,300 immunity card for fouling. He's found the immunity card for 1681 01:24:34,300 --> 01:24:36,500 technicals where, it's just like, oh, they're not going to 1682 01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:38,400 call Tech on me this year like to see how far I can is like 1683 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,800 he's in a Dream. Well it's like let's see how far 1684 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,800 I can take this. That was Bonkers. 1685 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,300 I can't wait to see what he does on Tuesday. 1686 01:24:44,300 --> 01:24:48,700 I will say this. He's got the immunity idol for 1687 01:24:48,700 --> 01:24:51,300 technicals at home. He walks into the eye. 1688 01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:54,500 You are he walks into the IU huddle at Carver Hawkeye? 1689 01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:56,600 No, call he stares. Down a red. 1690 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,000 I gotta say. I mean it also in all 1691 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,300 seriousness for the Big Ten to not have already sanctioned 1692 01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:07,500 Fran, mccaffery for that action. You know, just I mean, I realize 1693 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,400 I'm self-conscious or self-aware enough as an IU fan to realize. 1694 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,900 I have zero things that I can complain about when it comes to 1695 01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:19,700 coaches being given a cushion by the league, I get that 1696 01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:23,500 historically, but, you know, as much as people complained about 1697 01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:26,500 Bob Knight's, Antics on the sidelines and be You allowed to 1698 01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:29,900 do, whatever. At least bob Knight one shit. 1699 01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:34,200 Like right, Fran mccaffery, like, Iowa hasn't been out of 1700 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,600 the second round of the NCAA tournament. 1701 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,800 I don't think in his entire tenure at Iowa. 1702 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,600 I mean you, you go back and you look at, you know, they haven't 1703 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,400 they lost in the first round? The second round, the second 1704 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,200 round, the second round, the second round of the play-in 1705 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:49,100 game. They've only been to the 1706 01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:53,600 tournament six times in the what 12 years that he's been there 1707 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,900 and that's what I find. Amazing. 1708 01:25:56,100 --> 01:26:00,300 Like they've had one year where they lost single-digit games and 1709 01:26:00,308 --> 01:26:04,200 they lost nine that year. This is not a top-level coach. 1710 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,300 It's he's a good coach Iowa's, a tough program to regularly win 1711 01:26:08,300 --> 01:26:11,400 at we've seen that. But the flip side of it is, I 1712 01:26:11,407 --> 01:26:14,200 don't understand why a coach who's so mid. 1713 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,700 In terms of the Big Ten is given this much latitude to act that 1714 01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:20,600 way it is. I mean, it really that whole 1715 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,100 scene in that Michigan State game, just emasculated That 1716 01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:28,000 official and And for That, official to not do something 1717 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:32,000 about it, indicates to me that like it's part of the larger 1718 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,300 issue. We've talked about for a long 1719 01:26:33,308 --> 01:26:35,900 time with Big Ten officiating of people who are like you guys, 1720 01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:38,600 just complain about officials we do, but we complain about 1721 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,500 officiating for everybody. It's not just I you this is the 1722 01:26:42,500 --> 01:26:44,400 kind of thing that can't be allowed to stand. 1723 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:49,600 And I honestly think this sets up well for Indiana, because if 1724 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,700 you remember the Northwestern game that Iowa played right 1725 01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:56,200 before, Fran got tossed in that game, he picked up to To go 1726 01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,200 files and got thrown out of the game. 1727 01:26:59,900 --> 01:27:03,300 I would not be shocked to see Fran gone before the first half 1728 01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:06,000 ends because I think that whoever's officiating that game 1729 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,800 on Tuesday is going to be like France, showed up our cow, our 1730 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,400 colleague in that game against Michigan State and was rewarded 1731 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,700 for It. Ultimately, because this team 1732 01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:19,400 won, I don't want to be looked at as someone who, let Fran 1733 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,500 mccaffery show me up, and it's in Assembly Hall. 1734 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,100 They're going to let me in the building, hopefully will be 1735 01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:27,100 packed. And loud. 1736 01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:30,800 And I think Iowa will probably struggle a little bit given how 1737 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,900 emotional the end of that Michigan State game was. 1738 01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:36,300 So I wouldn't be shocked to see Fran, get some technicals early 1739 01:27:36,300 --> 01:27:38,600 and be out of there would be great or they could do what they 1740 01:27:38,608 --> 01:27:40,200 did also, again where they call a tech. 1741 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,700 But don't, you know, you do the most shout out to the team, and 1742 01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:44,500 it doesn't kind of. It doesn't go to the scorer's 1743 01:27:44,500 --> 01:27:47,300 table at the wild just ran to where it's like my old, you 1744 01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:49,300 know. And I don't even hate, I don't 1745 01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:53,300 even I don't. Yeah, go ahead and just watching 1746 01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:55,400 him France. Terry was during a time, I'd be 1747 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:59,400 like Just turn around, its bumpers are just awesome. 1748 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,100 Yeah. Like, hey, are you just say, 1749 01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,700 hey, friend, turn around right now. 1750 01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:05,400 I'm tossing it. Yeah, I mean, it's I don't even 1751 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,600 I don't hate Fran as a coach, I think, I admire friends 1752 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,100 dedication to offense Above All Else, Meyer him. 1753 01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:13,500 Like being like, I'm gonna keep pushing. 1754 01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:15,800 I mean, his credit, he's like, all right, you're not gonna call 1755 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,800 it right? Can you do shit? 1756 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,800 I look, I was there going to go to the tournament. 1757 01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,900 You know that win last night, helped them tremendously, But 1758 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:30,100 ultimately I I have a hard time seeing Fran skating, especially 1759 01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:33,900 in this game at Indiana. I decided I honestly, I think 1760 01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:35,800 there's going to be a Target on his back in this game and 1761 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,600 rightfully so because that was a ridiculous display that happened 1762 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,700 over the weekend. So anyway, gosh, I'm good and 1763 01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:45,300 their, no, we're great. I mean, we're great, but like 1764 01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:49,400 you all of this is great. You can't stub your toe this 1765 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,100 next week. If you have to finish this at 1766 01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:53,200 home, you've got to win those two games. 1767 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,900 And I'm, I'm very Cautiously but I'm optimistic. 1768 01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:02,500 I don't want to say we're going to but this team is different 1769 01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:03,900 like you. And I have been saying this is a 1770 01:29:03,907 --> 01:29:06,300 different team, this is a different build, it looks 1771 01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:10,100 unique, it's coming into itself at the right time and this this 1772 01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:12,900 feels like a team that's going to close out business as it 1773 01:29:12,900 --> 01:29:14,200 should knows there's a lot at stake here. 1774 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,900 I mean, all the things we've talked about but also, you know, 1775 01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:20,500 we've had those moments where like we have a chance to win the 1776 01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:23,500 Big Ten title in 2013, we lost Ohio State, we're still cut down 1777 01:29:23,500 --> 01:29:25,300 the Nets. Like I don't want a situation 1778 01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:27,800 where like We have traced Jackson Davis is senior night 1779 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,000 and we lose but yeah, it's not like you're playing the number 1780 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,600 two, well Purdue team, receiving like these are both winnable 1781 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,000 games. Like you have jail hitch. 1782 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,000 If he knows going to be his last two home games. 1783 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,600 Like, let's I think this team knows what's on the lines. 1784 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,800 Like it's gonna suck for their last game if they lose, I don't 1785 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:42,600 think. I mean to do that. 1786 01:29:42,700 --> 01:29:46,000 Here's the thing. All and I'm with you and I 1787 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,400 think, you know, there's still that kind of devil perched on 1788 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,800 every IU fan shoulder where you're just worried about the 1789 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,200 other shoe dropping, but I'd like to note that Indiana so far 1790 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,600 this season. Has played ten, eleven twelve, 1791 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,700 thirteen, fourteen, fifteen games at home. 1792 01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:04,800 They've lost one game by one point at home. 1793 01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:08,900 All season, one game by one point, and most of the home 1794 01:30:08,900 --> 01:30:11,900 games have not been that close. I'm not saying that the point 1795 01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:14,100 total in the other wins. It's yeah, pretty amazing. 1796 01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:17,200 Yeah, I mean obviously the owner game was close closer than you 1797 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,200 would hope. And the Purdue game was closed 1798 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,200 because produce a really good team, but this has been a really 1799 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,700 impressive team at home. They've defended home court 1800 01:30:24,700 --> 01:30:27,200 really well. I I mean, if they do pull this 1801 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,800 off and when these last two games, as they are projected to 1802 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,700 do the idea, that Indiana would go nine in one at home in the 1803 01:30:33,700 --> 01:30:36,200 Big Ten, we always talk about how that never happens. 1804 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,900 Like, you're never just gonna go undefeated in your home games 1805 01:30:38,900 --> 01:30:42,300 and yet Indiana stands on the precipice of doing just that and 1806 01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:47,100 that is really impressive. So, yeah, I mean, look, I I have 1807 01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:50,200 faith that this team even if they start off, slow against 1808 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,600 Iowa is going to figure it out because I think their defense 1809 01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,800 travels, you know, even in games where Offense isn't going 1810 01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,400 particularly well. And I note that like Iowa over 1811 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,400 the course of the last month and a half is one one game away from 1812 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,000 Carver Hawkeye, and that was against Minnesota. 1813 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,300 So it doesn't count. They've gotten blown out in 1814 01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:10,600 those. In most of those were games, 1815 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,700 they almost beat Michigan State on the road but they got blown 1816 01:31:12,700 --> 01:31:15,100 out at Ohio State. They got blown out at Purdue 1817 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,500 they got blown out at Northwestern they lost by 12 at 1818 01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:20,100 Wisconsin. In a game that Wisconsin 1819 01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:23,500 completely dominated you know the there was a sixty one 1820 01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:26,400 possession game. Iowa, never play 61 In games. 1821 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,300 So this is a good opponent for Indiana to be playing. 1822 01:31:29,300 --> 01:31:32,300 The still gotta play hard. They got to defend hard, but I 1823 01:31:32,308 --> 01:31:34,700 like their chances against an Iowa team that has struggled to 1824 01:31:34,708 --> 01:31:36,400 play defensively. And you saw that in that 1825 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,200 Michigan State game and they won when they give up, 106 points 1826 01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:42,900 along the way. So anyway, we'll see what 1827 01:31:42,900 --> 01:31:45,000 happens. Tuesday, please, if you've got 1828 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,800 tickets go God, be there, get excited. 1829 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,600 This team is going to need the emotional support. 1830 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,100 There's going to be a bit of a letdown after this Purdue win. 1831 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,800 This is a tough win to kind of pick yourself back. 1832 01:31:55,900 --> 01:31:58,900 Up from and be like, hey, we gotta go play Iowa and two days. 1833 01:31:58,900 --> 01:32:02,700 Let's get, let's get excited. But this is, I think the, it'll 1834 01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,300 be fascinating for the Caillou teams. 1835 01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:06,000 You're gonna see. Is it last few times going to 1836 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,900 see Jackson Davis? And the last two times you're 1837 01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:10,000 going to see jail Hood fee. Know, I joke, a few the last 1838 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,800 day, I'll say it's like it's neiu fans out there. 1839 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,900 Like, again, not getting used to seeing players like this. 1840 01:32:14,900 --> 01:32:18,500 Like, don't even start the comments of, oh, well, you know, 1841 01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:22,800 here's why it like, there are zero point zero, zero, zero 1842 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,100 reasons. Why Jalen the Cioppino should 1843 01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:28,100 come back to College. He should go pro, he is a pro 1844 01:32:28,300 --> 01:32:30,800 and this is when people are like managed to sucks. 1845 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,000 Yes, this is what. This is. 1846 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,400 The downside of having a Transcendent one-and-done player 1847 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,500 is it sucks. Like it sucks for Zion 1848 01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:41,000 Williamson, for Duke fans like it. 1849 01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:43,400 This is the great thing is you get him for a year and they're 1850 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,300 awesome. The bad thing is like they move 1851 01:32:45,300 --> 01:32:48,200 on quickly because they're awesome, but like just all of 1852 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,200 those threads do not like he has no reason to come back. 1853 01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,000 Nor should he. So enjoy his last two games. 1854 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,200 Yeah. In an idiot. 1855 01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:57,400 That's why Everyone should go. I swear, I'm going to be about 1856 01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:01,000 the games because I want to see these guys in this team to last 1857 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,000 times in Assembly Hall. Yeah, I agree. 1858 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:04,400 Be loud. Be excited. 1859 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,700 Enjoy this. Savor it, folks, savor it. 1860 01:33:06,700 --> 01:33:08,100 Yeah. You've everybody's been wanting 1861 01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:10,000 a good basketball team for the longest time. 1862 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,600 You've got one? Yes. 1863 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,200 Enjoy it. Anyway, my thanks to everybody 1864 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,000 for listening. I know this one went long but as 1865 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,000 you know, mr. Spock would say, the cause was 1866 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,400 sufficient. Indiana be Indiana sweeps Purdue 1867 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,600 for the first time in a decade and puts themselves in a really 1868 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,700 good. Spot, as they move forward here. 1869 01:33:27,700 --> 01:33:30,100 Over the course of the last week of the regular season, and into 1870 01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:32,800 the Big Ten and NCAA tournaments, will be back later 1871 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,900 on this week with more, be sure to tune into the women's 1872 01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:37,000 basketball show, huge game for the women today. 1873 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,300 They travel to Iowa. They've already clinched the 1874 01:33:39,300 --> 01:33:41,000 outright Big Ten title, but let's see them. 1875 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,900 Beat the Hawkeyes one more time. Thanks to home field apparel. 1876 01:33:43,900 --> 01:33:46,500 Thanks to our friends at the back home network and thanks to 1877 01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:49,900 all of you folks for Scott I'm Galen this is Crimson Castle. 1878 01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:51,700 Will catch you folks on the flip side? 1879 01:33:51,700 --> 01:33:54,000 Bring back the Bison, so everybody