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Like I was going to say like 34 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,000 who's most likely to play their selves in who could play them? 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,100 I was out it seems like Indiana is really the only team out 36 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:57,200 there in the Big Ten who could play themselves in and everyone 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,700 else is kind of either in or out. 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Would you would you say oh, well, I would agree with a 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,700 small, a small caveat. I do think all the Big Ten teams 40 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:11,900 that are NCAA egg, you know, at large contenders are all in 41 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,500 solidly. At this point may be solidly is 42 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:18,800 a little too strong, a word but are in good shape right now, but 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 for Indiana, The Only Exception I would make is Rutgers. 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,100 And in the unlikely scenario that so they're the four seed 45 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:30,300 which means they're going to play either Iowa or the winner 46 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:33,000 of the Nebraska Northwestern game on Friday. 47 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:37,200 If Iowa gets upset, and they end up playing Nebraska and North 48 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:40,400 Northwestern and lose that game. That would be a pretty damaging 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,500 loss. So I do think there is a 50 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:46,300 potential doomsday scenario for Rutgers, but it would take Iowa 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,400 going down in that first game, which I don't think is going to 52 00:02:48,408 --> 00:02:51,800 happen. Yeah, I mean the other thing 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,200 that is tough for Rutgers. Getting. 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,700 I agree with you like yeah, if let's say North Western, 55 00:02:57,700 --> 00:02:59,700 Nebraska makes that run and they'd beat Rutgers that would 56 00:02:59,708 --> 00:03:04,700 be rough but I don't know. It's I think that the tournament 57 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:07,600 they never talked about it, but when they look at it, like I do 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Rutgers is for seed based on, you know, a couple tie breaks 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,300 here and there but it's like it. They normally the tournament 60 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:17,600 doesn't like to put in teams ahead of other teams in 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,500 Conference standings. So that would mean that Could 62 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:22,900 basically have, Iowa, Ohio, State, Michigan, State, 63 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:26,000 Michigan, all in the tournament and Rutgers. 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Not, even though Rutgers finished ahead of all of those 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,800 teams in the Big Ten. Yeah, it's bizarre. 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,300 I had one a buddy message me today who was like, how is 67 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:41,000 Rutgers on the bubble and the fourth team in the Big Ten and 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,400 it's just it's a weird resume and I think you see that we're 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,900 in the net there outside the top 70. 70 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:54,200 I think though. 73 or 74 right now, which just an initial 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,300 glance is obviously not good enough to make the tournament. 72 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:00,900 It's not anywhere close, but the resume so weird, because they 73 00:04:00,908 --> 00:04:05,800 have so many high quality wins to go with a couple bad losses 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,100 that I somebody said, you know, they broke the net this year and 75 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:11,900 I tend to agree. I think they have a really weird 76 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:17,500 profile, but it's an NCAA one. And, in my eyes and like I said, 77 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:20,700 barring a loss syndrome. Brasco or Northwestern which 78 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,200 seems unlikely. I think they're in. 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Yeah, I mean the right now in the bracket Matrix there only on 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,000 79 of the whatever available 123 brackets. 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,300 That's right. Now just got a wild. 82 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:38,200 There's brackets out there that don't have them in whereas even 83 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,700 now 25 of those brackets on the bracket Matrix have Indiana in 84 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:46,200 which is just It is mind-boggling, but I think it 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,900 goes to show that the committee's looking for, 86 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:51,900 sometimes things that aren't always wins and losses. 87 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:54,600 And at the bottom of the bubble is pretty soft. 88 00:04:58,700 --> 00:05:03,900 Yeah, it doesn't seem to be one of those years where, you know, 89 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:07,200 as you said a team, you know, not even just Indiana. 90 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,400 I know I've seen you guys like to talk about the Hoosiers, but 91 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:13,300 some of those other like, Rutgers has that weird Divergent 92 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:18,200 roster or resume rather wear great wins, horrible losses, and 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 then you look at like a team like Michigan, who for the last 94 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,700 month of the season has literally been win-loss when in 95 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:29,700 loss and so I know there used to be an old Saying of, like, what 96 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:31,700 you want to get hot, you know, they want teams that are 97 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:34,800 showing, you know, positive play down the stretch, Michigan. 98 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,900 I don't know if they are or they aren't depending on your 99 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:41,200 perspective because it's like, like I said, it's win-loss 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,700 win-loss literally for the last month. 101 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,800 So it does seem to be a little bit down of a bubble year. 102 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:52,100 Doesn't seem to be as many mid majors in contention this year. 103 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,100 Maybe I'm wrong, but that's, that's how it seems. 104 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:58,400 So, we'll see. But I do feel like Indiana one. 105 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:01,400 Nguyen is probably going to get them in though. 106 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:05,100 It might be that that dreaded first for Dayton game. 107 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:09,300 Yeah, as as you looked at the bracket when it was released and 108 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:12,100 we've had it now for about a day in our hands, you know, as an 109 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:13,400 Indiana fan. I saw it. 110 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,400 I'm like that was, that was the kind of the worst possible break 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,500 for us. Like, I think Michigan, and 112 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:24,300 Illinois or the two teams, I would just, most not want to 113 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:28,300 face in the Big Ten right now, and I kind of liked it. 114 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,700 I was like looking like Wisconsin would be there again. 115 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:34,000 I don't think we could beat any of those teams in the first four 116 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:34,600 bits. Like of. 117 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,500 If I had to pick one. It feels like Wisconsin was the 118 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,700 one we pay the best of, but I'm just, I'm curious, you know, 119 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:41,300 we're looking at it from Indiana spin. 120 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:44,700 When you saw the bracket and how things finally laid out. 121 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,700 Did you did anything glare out to you? 122 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:48,100 Like? Ooh, that broke really well for 123 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:51,500 this team or, you know, who that broke really poorly for, you 124 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:54,600 know, this team. Well, things I found interesting 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 was first stuff, you know, you've mentioned the, Indiana, 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,500 Michigan matchup. It is a pretty fun to have 127 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,300 literally to Bubble teams playing. 128 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:05,800 Yeah, on on Thursday may be a little, you know, need some Tums 129 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,100 or something for Indiana fans involved in it, but it's kind of 130 00:07:10,108 --> 00:07:13,300 fun to have one of those games where you can say pretty 131 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,900 confidently. Whoever wins is going to feel 132 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:19,400 pretty good for selection Sunday at least to get in. 133 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:22,300 So that was one of the things that popped out. 134 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:26,300 The other thing is, is Ken Pon released his odds, for the Big 135 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:28,300 Ten Tournament, you know, who has the best odds of making? 136 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,400 My final or the final and winning the title, obviously, 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,400 and it was interesting that Illinois is actually third in 138 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,900 can Palms odds to actually win the title, even though they're 139 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:44,400 the one seat, which I found pretty interesting, and I don't 140 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 think people would guess. So Purdue is is number one. 141 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,700 They have the best odds / Ken Palm to win the title, which 142 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:53,900 probably isn't super surprising given their just statistical 143 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:57,500 profile. But Iowa is s, Iowa has been 144 00:07:57,500 --> 00:07:59,600 red-hot over the last Last month, I know Illinois. 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,900 Beat them on Sunday in a one-possession really tight 146 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:05,200 game. But Iowa is in really good 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,700 shape. I think the thing, if I'm a 148 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:12,100 Hawkeye fan that I'm worried about is Nebraska who's also 149 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:15,100 red-hot is probably going to win that first game. 150 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:16,900 And then it's going to be Iowa, Nebraska. 151 00:08:16,900 --> 00:08:20,600 So to just scorching red-hot teams playing each other on 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,300 Thursday. So that's a, that's a little fun 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,600 matchup there. And then as far as the best 154 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,700 draw, I really do like Purdue. Draw, you know, Purdue really, 155 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:32,299 really good team. I think a lot of people would 156 00:08:32,299 --> 00:08:34,500 argue. They're the best team in the Big 157 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:36,100 Ten. They just the games, didn't 158 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:39,200 break their way for the Big, Ten title, and I'll let people 159 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,799 debate that. But Ohio state has, really not 160 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,900 look that great over the last couple weeks and they're the 161 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:51,100 team that Purdue is projected to play on Friday and then the 162 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:54,500 other teams that they might play on Friday or Minnesota Penn 163 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:59,600 State, both teams entering with with some I'm losing streaks. 164 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,500 So they're playing some pretty cold teams or at least projected 165 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:08,100 to and then they're going to play either, Wisconsin. 166 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,800 Who knows? If Johnny Davis is going to be 167 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,400 able to play and Wisconsin, certainly is not the team. 168 00:09:13,900 --> 00:09:18,700 If Davis is not in the lineup, they're not at all who they were 169 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:21,900 before and then, you know, Michigan State. 170 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:25,300 Yeah, they want on Sunday and you know, will enter the Big Ten 171 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:28,500 Tournament with a little momentum, but I've been pretty 172 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:30,600 rough. The last month Maryland's are 173 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,900 struggling team. So like you look at that side of 174 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:36,100 the bracket and the only team with any positivity, really is 175 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Purdue, so they might have a nice route to the title game. 176 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,400 So that was the thing that stood out to me. 177 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,000 At least. I will ask you this Gail and I 178 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,800 were talking this on our last call. 179 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,500 I think we did it off are maybe it was on air and I apologize 180 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:53,000 for not remembering some happened four days ago. 181 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:56,500 But obviously we have a little bit of you know, just Purdue. 182 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,700 Just you know, or Pro. Do you know anger so to speak 183 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:04,400 and this comes out of just you know, I envy what they've been 184 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,800 able to do is kind of out of a place of mean-spiritedness, but 185 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,900 it is, I was thinking about this, you know, they didn't win 186 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:15,200 the Big Ten title as you mentioned, a lot of things, kind 187 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,400 of led up to this year. You know, they this is kind of 188 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,800 like the culmination of a couple of really good years. 189 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,700 You have your, you know, MBA level lottery, pick on the team. 190 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:27,200 You have a couple of seniors. You have your twin. 191 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,300 H mean, this is like the year you're building up to date on 192 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:33,800 the Big Ten title. If they don't win the Big Ten 193 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,100 Tournament, you know, and again, let's just say they don't make 194 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,600 the final four like their app to normally do. 195 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 It does feel like this could be a year? 196 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Just kind of like, what was all of that for? 197 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Do you think they need to win the Big Ten Tournament title 198 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:51,400 and, or get to a final four to kind of make this a successful 199 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,100 season or am I just trying to project my anger on my rival? 200 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,500 No, I actually, I completely agree. 201 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:01,200 I think they need to make some serious noise. 202 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,500 If you can view this as a successful year. 203 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:06,800 This is a stack roster. They spent the most of the year 204 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,900 in the top five. I know they're not there right 205 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:11,700 now. But when you, when you look at 206 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:13,400 the team, you're like, yeah, that is it. 207 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,400 That's a team that can do some major damage. 208 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,800 And I know we had discussed on maybe a podcast a month or so 209 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,200 ago that there are some some deficits in how they play 210 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,300 specifically defensively that, you know, You concern about 211 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:30,800 whether they could actually win the title, you know on Monday 212 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,600 night in April, but they're loaded team. 213 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,600 They have all everything. You normally look for on a final 214 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,500 four Championship level Squad and not only lose the Big Ten, 215 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,500 but to be the third seed which, you know, I guess you could 216 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:50,100 debate whether that really matters that much, but to be the 217 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:53,800 third seed and as you pointed out, you know, if they get 218 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,400 knocked off on Friday, which Which is an impossible. 219 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,400 We've we've seen Ohio State, beat some teams. 220 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,200 I mean we've seen Minnesota and Penn State, beat some teams to, 221 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:07,800 it wouldn't be, you know, floor dropping or anything. 222 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:10,600 Then you're talking about, they're going to enter with a 223 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,700 pretty underwhelming seed in March Madness. 224 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:17,400 And at that point, you know, it's going to be an uphill 225 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,100 battle to get to the final four or so. 226 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:22,700 I agree with the sentiment. I think they need to do 227 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,700 something and I mean already when you look back at what they 228 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,000 I've done in Big Ten, play it already feels like a huge missed 229 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,900 opportunity. So many games, they have lost 230 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:35,300 this year. One possession on the road. 231 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:38,400 I mean, rockers obviously who's your fans know what happened 232 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,100 when they played in Bloomington Michigan State game. 233 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:44,300 They easily could have won. They could have beaten 234 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,400 Wisconsin. I mean, just a lot of missed 235 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,900 opportunities and it'll be interesting. 236 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:54,100 I've had this this feeling where I'm like, is this going to be 237 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:55,800 one of these years? Where produce? 238 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,100 Fans are just like we were cursed all year or I almost got 239 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:04,100 a little bit, a couple flashbacks this week to, I don't 240 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:07,200 know if Indiana fans will remember as much, but the 241 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:10,100 Michigan team. The first final four team with 242 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:13,100 John beilein where they had Trey Burke and Tim Hardaway dumped. 243 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:17,500 You and your and that was the team that got right down to the 244 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:21,900 edge in Indiana, you know, won the Big Ten title in a couple 245 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:24,200 epic matchups. I thought towards the end of the 246 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,900 season and that was one of those. 247 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,000 Teams were, they had no Big Ten title. 248 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 They had big flamed out in the Big Ten tournament and they 249 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,500 ended up as like a four seed for the NCAA tournament and they got 250 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,000 hot. They made the final four. 251 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:40,300 And I wonder if Purdue, you know, we'll get some lucky 252 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:43,300 bounces in the tournament. But yeah, as this set here right 253 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:45,700 now, they need to do something big this month. 254 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:48,100 Otherwise, it's definitely going to be a lot down. 255 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:56,600 Yeah, no, it reminds me of that that 2013 season where Pi 256 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,300 Michigan made the final four because on the flip side, you 257 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:01,600 know, Indiana had a number one, ranked team. 258 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,600 We were a one seed, you know, we were number one team for always 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,900 a good portion of that year for, but definitely the start the 260 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:10,200 year and, you know, bits and pieces here and there. 261 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:15,700 And you know, that year, I believe we lost in the first 262 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,200 round of the Big Ten Tournament to like, Illinois, or are we? 263 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Lost to the eighth seed, who was it that? 264 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,100 I forget it. But anyway, we lost the Big Ten 265 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:27,700 tournament. We lost in the sweet 16 and it's 266 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,000 like had we not won the Big Ten title. 267 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,100 You look back and be like, man. What was that? 268 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:37,900 Like, whoa, what was that all for? 269 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,400 And yeah, may I just I look at Purdue's similar. 270 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Like if I was a produce handbook the same way. 271 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,300 It's like damn like we kind of put it all together and that was 272 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:49,600 our best shot and you walk away with kind of nothing. 273 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,500 That's how it's looking right now. 274 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,500 We'll see as we talked about. I mean, wouldn't wouldn't be 275 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,600 shocked if they made the final four. 276 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,700 But yeah, they got some work ahead of them. 277 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:07,200 Do you think any team in the Big Ten right now could play their 278 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,500 way into a one seed? I do not. 279 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Yeah, I don't know. I thought was concen had a shot 280 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:18,400 and then they blew the Nebraska game at home on Sunday. 281 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,100 That's going to be a really damaging loss and the other 282 00:15:22,100 --> 00:15:24,500 thing too. Now, we briefly hit on it. 283 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:29,600 But the Johnny Davis thing, where would the committee look 284 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,800 on them. A little more skeptically if 285 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,500 their best player is out. I don't know. 286 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,700 Michigan had it last year. Isaiah livers, one of their 287 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:40,400 better players was out and they still One seat. 288 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:43,300 But yeah, Wisconsin, I thought I had a shot. 289 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:45,200 But I think it's out the window now. 290 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Yeah, I mean if they win, if they win a but they said a lot 291 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,500 of teams to jump. I mean ahead of them. 292 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:55,600 Again looking at bracket Matrix, maybe have Duke Kentucky, Kansas 293 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Auburn Arizona Gonzaga Baylor. It's like I have a hard time 294 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 believing of all those guys. Wisconsin. 295 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Can jump those teams, even if they win the Big Ten Tournament. 296 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,900 Again, kind of same for same for Purdue, and I think Purdue if 297 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:10,200 they win, because, you know, if they win, either those teams 298 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,800 they win. They're basically only winning, 299 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,200 you know, three games, which is not. 300 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,200 It's not bad, but it's like I just don't think that's enough. 301 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:19,600 To jump all those teams I mention because I think of all 302 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,700 those teams probably at least, three of them are going to win 303 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:24,300 their conference tournament as well. 304 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,000 That's what I was going to say. Yeah, a couple of those teams 305 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,500 are probably going to get hot too. 306 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:32,400 So there's nothing wrong with the to see. 307 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:36,500 We'll see, I don't know. So I mean, you know going back 308 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:39,100 to this your kind of a Michigan guy. 309 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:44,800 I just don't see a world where this is a good matchup for, 310 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Indiana. You know, it seems it obviously 311 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,500 seems like one of the best early matchups we have in the Big Ten 312 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,600 Tournament, you know, Maryland Michigan of the set match ups, 313 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,600 you know, the Wednesday games are kind of their Wednesday 314 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,400 games. Then you know, Michigan State 315 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,300 just beat Marilyn and Maryland's kind of coasting to the end 316 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:03,800 here. It seems like this is the best 317 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,200 match up the Indiana Michigan game, but I just, I don't, I 318 00:17:07,208 --> 00:17:09,700 don't see a world where this is a great matchup for Indiana and 319 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:11,599 Michigan to your point. They've been kind of win/loss 320 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,599 win-loss, but as I mentioned earlier podcast, you know, even 321 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:16,099 in their losses, the last month or so. 322 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:19,200 We've been averaging over 1.1.2 possession. 323 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,599 So it's like they score at a high volume, even when they lose 324 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,700 and Indiana hasn't even been able to keep at the volume of 325 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:29,100 the points per possessions that Michigan is able to get to when 326 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:33,800 they lose low load. When I tend to agree, you know, 327 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,600 we'll see there's always some craziness in the Big Ten 328 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,200 Tournament. I mean, a couple of years ago, 329 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,400 it Michigan looked like they were dead dead meat, and they 330 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,200 knocked off, Indiana. In one of those one, what 18 or 331 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,800 19 games? So who knows, you know what 332 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,200 could happen? But as far as the matchup on the 333 00:17:54,208 --> 00:17:56,900 court, yeah, I don't think. Jackson Davis is the best 334 00:17:56,900 --> 00:18:00,500 matchup for Hunter Dickinson. And then, I mean, some of the, 335 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,300 some of the guards. Eli Brooks tends to do pretty 336 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:07,000 well against the loser. So if it's a tough game, not 337 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,400 impossible for Indiana, because one of the things they only 338 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,100 played once during the regular season, which Michigan one in 339 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,700 Bloomington. Caleb Houston, who continues to 340 00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:22,700 be the X-Factor for the Wolverines is really hit or 341 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:24,400 miss. He'll have one game where it 342 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,600 looks like. Oh my gosh, I can see why this 343 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,800 guy was projected as a first round pick last year. 344 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:32,900 And then the next game, he'll go over five from three and be a 345 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:36,400 complete non factor. So if he was red-hot, when 346 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,100 Indiana played Michigan last time, can he do that again? 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,300 It's possible. I doubt who will be as good as 348 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:47,200 he was in that game. And if he's not, you know, 349 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,100 Indiana can probably hang make things interesting and hope that 350 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:54,000 Michigan continues. Its streak of win/loss because 351 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:58,200 Michigan's last game was a win. So maybe the loss the loss is 352 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,300 going to bounce back here. Yeah. 353 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:02,500 I mean that's kind of what you hope is that it's just that the 354 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:04,700 win-loss win-loss thing kind of keeps up there. 355 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:07,900 Let's play this game with a friend. 356 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:11,600 Just a I'd love to do this on a. Maybe we do it in the summer 357 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,300 podcast, but just like, you know, if you could pick Who is 358 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:19,400 the be the most impactful player to the come back? 359 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,800 Who didn't like, you know, somebody who left earlier 360 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,100 somebody who graduated? Who would you love to just bring 361 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:28,800 back for the second, you know, one more year with that team and 362 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,400 the initial person I thought of was just so moved for Illinois 363 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,200 because like, if you added him to this team man, they would be 364 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:38,700 they'd be salty. I know what. 365 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:40,300 Yeah, everybody could add one player. 366 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:43,500 Who was, you know, an MBA pick to their team from last year be 367 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,400 awesome, but it's like, this is it. 368 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,900 Feels like that's what Illinois is missing to make. 369 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:52,600 Just a insane Deep Run, but man, that they are firing on all 370 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,800 cylinders and it's just maybe think like God. 371 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,600 You just add him back to this team, just for March, they'd be 372 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,100 unstoppable. But they look, they look really 373 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:03,900 good. They do, I think in a lot of 374 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:07,100 ways, they are the most balanced team in the Big Ten. 375 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,000 You know, I think Purdue has more roster balance. 376 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:13,600 They have that great, you know, big men Duo, they have really 377 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,000 experienced wings and they have IV in the backcourt, but they 378 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,700 don't they don't play great defense as everybody knows in 379 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:22,300 the Big Ten. Where's Illinois? 380 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:24,800 I feel like they're solid on both sides of the Court. 381 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:27,600 They can play, you know, physical down low. 382 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:31,300 They can play up-tempo, really diverse team. 383 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,200 Really balanced and you don't really know. 384 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,900 I mean Coke burn is obviously their best player and he's going 385 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,800 to be the guy that is their bread and butter, but they have 386 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,500 so many guys that can step up on a given night outside of him, 387 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,400 which is, I think really encouraging for Brad Underwood 388 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,600 and says, a lot about what he's accomplished there and champagne 389 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200 for a program that kind of see dead went. 390 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,200 When he arrived. It's been remarkable to watch 391 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,000 them. And I mean, at this year, 392 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,200 they've had three straight Seasons where they've been a 393 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,500 truly nationally contending team. 394 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:06,100 So I think that's encouraging for Illinois. 395 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:10,800 Fans wouldn't if they won. The Big Ten Tournament wouldn't 396 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,600 be crazy. Now. 397 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,500 I know I mentioned they have the third best odds for Ken bomb, 398 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:19,300 but they certainly have been playing a lot better than that 399 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:22,400 of late. It's a tough question because we 400 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,000 don't know who's going to go pro and who's not but I think we all 401 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,600 have some some feeling for it. But you know, I looked at this 402 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,900 year and I was dead wrong like I thought that Did I had assumed 403 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:35,500 who's leaving? Illinois was going to be a big 404 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:38,200 factor? And so I thought they were going 405 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,800 to be down. I thought Ohio state would also 406 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,300 be really down based on just as tough to come back from a first 407 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,900 round loss in the tournament like that. 408 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:48,000 And yeah, I was kind of they were succeed but I'm just 409 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,600 curious. You know, what? 410 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,600 We'll do top six and you know, the bottom six or, you know, 411 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,300 bottom eight so to speak. Who who do you think of the top 412 00:21:57,300 --> 00:21:59,700 six right now? So, you know, top six seeds are, 413 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:04,300 Illinois, Wisconsin. Oh, do Rutgers, Iowa, Ohio 414 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,700 State, next season, which of those two teams? 415 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:10,900 Do you two of those six? Do you think won't be in the top 416 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:12,900 six next year? And of the remaining? 417 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:15,700 Who do you think? Who would you see would be able 418 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:17,200 to replace them going in the next year? 419 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Oh, that's yeah, that's an interesting one. 420 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:23,300 Ohio State. I think would probably be the 421 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,700 safest pick not only because of the lowest in terms of the 422 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:27,700 standing. They are sick. 423 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:31,100 Yeah, but EG Liddell Has Lifted them. 424 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,100 I think I know I mentioned this on on one of these podcast 425 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:38,400 before but I can never keep track of the eligibility right 426 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,500 now because of the covid stuff. I've kind of just given up on it 427 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:46,800 and I figure I'll recheck in and it always this morning about 428 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,900 that is so funny. Is I do Know about the transfer 429 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,800 rules to it. Like, I just assume I assume 430 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,700 everybody has an extra year and everybody on transfer. 431 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:55,500 Like I just assumed everyone is able to transfer and everybody 432 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:57,500 is everything. Everybody has an extra year. 433 00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:00,000 So I'm 100% with you there. So just assume that. 434 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,700 Yeah, so I've given up on some try to keep up with that for the 435 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:05,900 time being. I'll check back in when things 436 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:09,500 calm down. But yeah, assuming Liddell is 437 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:13,500 gone which I believe he is. It's also funny too because I 438 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,000 wonder, I wonder if the incident was known it Liddell's like out 439 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,500 of Eligibility. But just says like, hey, I'm 440 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,000 coming. For one more year, if any, if he 441 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,500 even checks this stuff, it's just like you could just keep 442 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:24,700 saying it. Like you're like 12 years in. 443 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:26,700 Someone's like hey, we they we should maybe we should check a 444 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:29,600 file on this guy. It's like I feel like we're at 445 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,100 that point where somebody could just say like, I'm just going to 446 00:23:32,108 --> 00:23:34,900 go ahead and use my last year eligibility, even if they played 447 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,300 six years and it's just like the NCAA doesn't even check this 448 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,400 anymore. Anyway, good 100%. 449 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000 That's, that's how I feel like we are right now, open it, I'd 450 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,700 say, Ohio, State and then Rutgers is also losing a couple 451 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:49,400 really experienced, guys. I know, Pikul has done a great 452 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 job there. I mean, when we talk about 453 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,100 Illinois's program being dead Rutgers was dead. 454 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,100 They were deaf buried. The casket. 455 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,100 Was there, everything and to be a force-feed. 456 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:00,400 Getting the double by, in the Big Ten. 457 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,200 Tournament is just an incredible comp accomplishment for that 458 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,700 program, their highest seed ever in the Big Ten Tournament, which 459 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:11,400 probably isn't surprising, but I could see them falling back 460 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,900 down. I mean, in some ways you could 461 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:15,600 argue like are they even the fourth best team in the league 462 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:17,800 this year? Probably not. 463 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:21,500 It's but that's just how the standings worked out teams to 464 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,700 replace them. But I could first off. 465 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:28,300 Michigan state is probably one of the easier picks assuming Max 466 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:30,700 Christy's back. He looks like he could be a Big 467 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:34,600 Ten Player of the Year Contender, down the road, the 468 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,300 other one to the thing with Michigan. 469 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:42,400 That is odd is they have so many young players, so much talent. 470 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,400 You don't know what's going to happen with Hunter Dickinson. 471 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,400 I think most people thought he would leave after this season, 472 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,900 but You know, there is the ni L stuff, everybody likes to talk 473 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:52,900 about. Who knows? 474 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:55,400 Maybe he could be one of those guys where like Coke burn. 475 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,100 Who says, yeah. I probably don't have a great 476 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:00,800 NBA future. I'll just hang out in college 477 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,300 for another year. If Dickinson somehow came back. 478 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:07,300 I think Michigan would be a dangerous team as well. 479 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:11,300 But and then, of course, you know, you got some of the Iowa's 480 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:15,600 always always solid and in Maryland with a new coach. 481 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,200 I don't know what to expect out of them. 482 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:20,800 Yeah, I would look. I mean, I think Peru will be 483 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,300 losing a lot. You know, they're gonna lose 484 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:25,000 some of their senior leadership against Jaden. 485 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,300 I be I think I think Edie is not going to be as effective when 486 00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:31,500 you don't have as many weapons around and it's going to be 487 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:35,100 pretty easy to, but that's just also why you are you hating? 488 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,500 And it's just kind of, you know, it's just, it was the cycle of, 489 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:39,800 you know, you get really Elite and then you lose a lot. 490 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,300 You're going to have some drop off. 491 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,400 I agree with you on Rutgers. Will they coming Michael's? 492 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,000 A great coach like his his in-game stuff is really good. 493 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,200 Like Ii-i'm, I'd be more shocked if he stays there, three more 494 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,500 years. I'm surprised he hasn't isn't 495 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:57,500 going to get swooped up somewhere else, and that, that 496 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:00,400 needs to be looked at. But I would also say, Iowa me, 497 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,700 Iowa again, the time we played them, you know, it's kind of the 498 00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:07,400 one spot, but they seem to definitely be, you know, kega 499 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,100 Marie seems to definitely be booing them and keeping them up. 500 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,500 And again, they're pretty close to that six line to the 501 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:16,300 imaginary line, I put there. So I would look at those guys as 502 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,100 teams to probably go down then yet. 503 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 To replace, you know, like you mentioned, you know, Michigan 504 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,800 state is always in my mind, should be in the top five. 505 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,400 So the fact they're not as kind of like that's abnormal. 506 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000 So I would assume more normal there and I think I think Matt 507 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,900 Christie is right in that line of like he's just on the go the 508 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,100 brink of like first round. So he's probably going to come 509 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:43,500 back and, you know, judging off of izzo's ability to take guys 510 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:47,000 like that and have them improve their games and Wafers ways for 511 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,900 the MBA. But also as a As a player, as 512 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:52,500 part of a team, I think they'll be really good. 513 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,800 And yeah, I'm with you on Michigan. 514 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:58,300 I don't see. Indiana crack cracking that top 515 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:00,200 six. I would say, you know, this is 516 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,300 again, just if you have to pick one of the Wednesday teams to 517 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,300 make a jump, you know, maybe it would be Penn State. 518 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:08,000 They've been kind of funky and frisky this year. 519 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,600 A lot of brass was look pretty good too. 520 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,500 But that's how I kind of shake out. 521 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:14,000 Kind of who I could think to go up and who I think could go down 522 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,700 in the Big Ten. I'll ask you this kind of 523 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:19,100 getting out of here. Iran, Michigan. 524 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:23,000 Are we is this helping Indiana? That Juwan Howard is going to 525 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,900 coach and martelly is going back to the to the bench in a non 526 00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,400 coaching role. I don't think it I don't think 527 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,100 it is as much as the, the joke Twitter I think. 528 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:41,200 But yeah, that is that is one of the storylines to and, you know, 529 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,900 I tweeted this out on Sunday. I was like one of the Hidden 530 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:48,800 disappointments of Wisconsin's lost in Nebraska was Wisconsin, 531 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,700 if they had won that game would have been the ones t, meaning 532 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:54,300 had Michigan beaten, Indiana. We would get the Michigan, 533 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:56,500 Wisconsin rematch with Juwan Howard. 534 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,600 And oh, man, would that have been juicy? 535 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,500 But we I highly doubt. We will get that. 536 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:04,100 Both teams would have to make it to the title. 537 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:08,300 Now to get that and I just I struggle to see Michigan doing 538 00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:10,300 that letting let alone. Both teams. 539 00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:12,100 Making it all the way there. Yeah. 540 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,100 I know that would have been great Friday morning like that 541 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,000 and nothing would have happened and it would have been so such a 542 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,700 Non event. That, that would have been 543 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:22,600 fantastic know. I've, I've I've joked with a 544 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,300 couple of friends to that like it would be obviously never 545 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,300 going to happen, but it would be like funny if it the offseason 546 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:30,500 Michigan's. Like we're going to go ahead and 547 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,500 swap Howard martelly and then we'll move our tele2 head coach 548 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,600 and then draw on. How is just going to recruit and 549 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,300 like they're neither of them are going to do the other ones job 550 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,100 and just want to swap them from head to a system. 551 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:41,300 That would be. I don't think we've ever seen 552 00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:46,400 that in sports and for for real reasons, but That that's that's 553 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,100 funny. I will we should give some 554 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:53,000 credit to Howard Eisley as well. One of Michigan's assistance. 555 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Allegedly. He's been their offensive 556 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,900 coordinator here with Howard out. 557 00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:58,900 So I should mention that as well. 558 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,900 But yeah, it'll be interesting, you know, Juwan Howard. 559 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:05,300 I'm sure there will be a lot of media attention with him back. 560 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Yeah. Do you last question? 561 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:14,100 I have friends who've talked to me about this, but do you think 562 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:20,500 that The committee already has the bracket for 68 teams done 563 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:25,000 before the Big Ten title game is over a hundred percent. 564 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,900 I completely believe that. Frankly. 565 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,500 I think they probably have it basically penciled in now and 566 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,600 they just move teams up and down which I, I don't know. 567 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,700 I could rant about this for a long time. 568 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,100 I feel the same way about college football, the college 569 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:44,600 football playoff seeding where I feel like what they have done. 570 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,500 Is they should look at it from a holistic perspective with all 571 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,500 the results and evaluate everything build from the bottom 572 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,000 up. Instead. 573 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:58,600 They make like one game, you know, will drop you a seed line 574 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,700 will bump you up a spot, whatever. 575 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:03,700 And I think what it does is it makes the significance of the 576 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:07,300 late games, even more important because you're literally like, 577 00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,700 yeah, you move up or move down solely based on one result where 578 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,000 I don't know if there's there are other games during the 579 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,300 season that necessarily do that. So I don't think that's a good 580 00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:18,700 approach, but I do think it is what they do. 581 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,700 And I understand the Practical reasons. 582 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:24,200 Why, which is, you know, they don't have time to do it before 583 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200 the selection show. But yeah, 100%. 584 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:31,600 I believe they do that and I agree with you on that. 585 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,100 Like I've often said, especially for college football, like you 586 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,600 have these games where it's, like, you know, we be the top 25 587 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,000 teams like, yeah, they're garbage. 588 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,100 Like they were, they were not at they were not a good team at the 589 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,500 end of the year, like again, I know. 590 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 You can't do this because somebody would end up ranking 591 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,500 them. But I've always said, look in a 592 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,700 perfect world, the top 25 rankings shouldn't come out 593 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:55,100 until week 5, like it just shouldn't come out because it 594 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,000 becomes this kind of self-fulfilling prophecy where 595 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,500 like, you know, Clemson, it's just a matter of like, as long 596 00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:03,900 as they can lose, the first two, or three weeks or your Georgia 597 00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:06,000 Auburn. It's like as long as they lose 598 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,500 early and then they don't drop too far. 599 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:09,500 They can, you know, claw their way back up. 600 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,900 But if you're a team like now, Indiana or like, you know, Ball 601 00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,400 State or something, it's like you're just Never going to get 602 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,100 to the top for because you have too far to go. 603 00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:21,100 Yeah, well and one of the things to not to get off on a extensive 604 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:27,300 voucher while tangent, but I will is like if you pay close 605 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:31,100 attention, not only everybody just looks at the top four top 5 606 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:34,300 times 6 or so, but if you look when you get towards the end of 607 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,900 the year, they will start artificially boosting certain 608 00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:41,600 teams into the top 25 so that they can say a team has more 609 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,500 ranked wins solely because of This arbitrary boost like for 610 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:51,000 example, not to rip on Minnesota, but Minnesota was 611 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,500 ranked in the top 25 for a bunch of last year in college 612 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:58,000 football, and that team should not have been ranked where they 613 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600 were and it was one of those things like, but then, they 614 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,300 could boost, you know, Ohio State who had beaten Minnesota, 615 00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,700 some of these other teams. And like, I just think that is 616 00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:11,800 such a horrible strategy. Let alone, the fact that 617 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,600 strength of schedule like barely matters in college football. 618 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,800 It's a shame across across the board. 619 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400 But I do think the committee has some of it. 620 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,600 The one nice thing is that at the end of the day, everybody 621 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,100 gets an opportunity, you get your conference tournament. 622 00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:30,000 You can play your way in so many teams. 623 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,500 Make it it's like I know as the Indiana Michigan fans won't like 624 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:39,300 to hear this, but it's not that hard to make the tournament, you 625 00:32:39,308 --> 00:32:42,700 know, you gotta live with 2/3 of your games or so, and you're 626 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,600 probably going to get in a major conference. 627 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,400 So no big deal out of it. Yeah, I completely agree. 628 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,900 And I think that's why not to go to Indiana specific on you. 629 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:55,300 But I mean that's why Indiana fans are so frustrated right 630 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:58,800 now. Mrs. Six years and going on what 631 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400 7, it's like, no tournament. It's like it's not that hard 632 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,100 like especially with a program with the history and the 633 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:06,700 recruiting capabilities, and the financial advantages that 634 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,500 Indiana has to me. It's honestly, just like it's 635 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:11,800 unacceptable. Like it's just it is not, you're 636 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600 not asking the world to just make the tournament. 637 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:16,800 I mean, that's like, it's not hard. 638 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,900 And that's, that's what's funny here to is. 639 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,300 Like, let's say there's, you know, let's say the game ends 640 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,600 really close with Indiana, Michigan and like, you know, 641 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,800 somebody misses a shot or somebody makes a bonehead play. 642 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,500 So you could say like, oh well, that cost them the tournament. 643 00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,700 It's like, but no, if you're Indiana, you can go back and you 644 00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:39,100 can look at an entire season. And there are, you know, when 645 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,100 that double overtime game against Syracuse, don't drop the 646 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:45,900 20-point lead against Wisconsin. Don't lose on the Depends State, 647 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:49,600 don't drop a lead against Iowa, you know, don't lose the home 648 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600 game to Wisconsin. Don't lose the home game to Ohio 649 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,300 State in overtime. Don't lose the Rutgers at home, 650 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:55,600 you know, close out that Purdue game. 651 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200 It's like any, any one of those ten things. 652 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,400 I just mentioned, you do any of those and you're in. 653 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,200 And so, it's like, it's I am with you. 654 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,199 Like I've never felt bad for any of the teams on the bubble. 655 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,600 Even when it's Indiana. It's like you've had multiple 656 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,600 times to get in in a Odd way, it's like again. 657 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,400 This is back to the college football rankings thing. 658 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,300 Like, I think this this always benefits a team like Indiana, 659 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,400 like once you've been on the right side of the bubble and 660 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,800 you've been in the Single Seed line, it's like you almost have 661 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,000 to try your ass off to not make the tournament that's like what 662 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,100 Indiana has been doing but like it's so much different watching 663 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,800 the seating of Rutgers a team, that's really played. 664 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400 Well at the end of the year, and I understand, there's nothing 665 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,800 ratings understand. There's there's, you know, 666 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,600 strength of schedule and quad 12 wins. 667 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,100 I got has actual Matrix that goes into this but it's like I 668 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:48,900 also think there is just a like, one shirt in, it's hard to get 669 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:53,699 out and once you're out, it's hard to get in. 100%. 670 00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:57,200 I mean like you said about Rutgers if you had gone back and 671 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,100 pulled Rutgers fans, you know late December early January like 672 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,100 oh you guys think you're going to make the tournament. 673 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,100 They might have been like, you know, we'll see if things the 674 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:10,300 right way and you know what? They reeled off, some good solid 675 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:12,200 wins, and now they're right there. 676 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,800 They win one game. They're going to be in but like 677 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,600 college football, Notre Dame last year. 678 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,000 They lose 111 game or two games. Whatever. 679 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:26,200 Over and they get down there and it's like, oh sorry, you're out. 680 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,900 Nice. Try again. 681 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,400 It's it's just a it's such a hard cutoff versus like you 682 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,400 said, where it's like, you even play good for a month or two in 683 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,800 college basketball and you're probably going to make the cup. 684 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,700 Yeah. I will ask island island on 685 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,400 this, not going to ask you. Who do you think is going to 686 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,700 win? And then we kind of talked about 687 00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:49,800 that and I but who what do you think is the best story? 688 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Like, what do you think is the best? 689 00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,900 Tori coming out of Indianapolis. If this team were able to win 690 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,400 again like in in a logical sense? 691 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:58,900 I get. Yes. 692 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:03,000 If Minnesota rattled off 51 wins and like that would be an 693 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,400 amazing story. But of the teams that you know, 694 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,000 if I ask you who do you think's going to win in your mind, you 695 00:36:08,008 --> 00:36:10,200 know, list those three or four or five, two of the other teams. 696 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,200 You think that logically could win? 697 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:15,000 What do you think, would be the best Story coming out of this 698 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Big Ten Tournament? Well, I will say I probably 699 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,300 hinted at this before, but I do think Purdue has the best shot 700 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:24,700 to win. Namely because I think they 701 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:29,100 caught a break in some ways with Wisconsin losing to Nebraska 702 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,000 where I think I know they lost the Wisconsin, the two times 703 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,700 they play them but Wisconsin does not seem like the team. 704 00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,700 They were necessarily a week or two ago. 705 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,700 They're probably going to produce probably going to have a 706 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:46,300 pretty manageable game on Friday, which gets you to you 707 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:50,100 got to win two games to win it. So Purdue I think has the best 708 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:55,600 route as far as the storyline. Fine, I think rockers making 709 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,800 some noise get into the maybe even just the title game. 710 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,700 I think would be such an awesome story, where you had this 711 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,000 program that again. I don't even know if Dad is the 712 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,200 right word to describe what they were with Eddie Jordan before 713 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,100 pikul took over and if they make a run, I think that would be 714 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,100 fantastic. And you know, you casually 715 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,600 mention this earlier, but I thought this for a couple of 716 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,800 years that I'm shocked, you know, pie cool is very much. 717 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,500 Northeastern guy, I can't imagine him going outside that 718 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:29,700 region, but if any of the, if any program in that area, I know 719 00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:33,600 UConn's got a good coach right now, but he seems like he's more 720 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,300 than capable of really elevating the program. 721 00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:39,100 Yeah. I mean, I'm not trying to make 722 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,000 Rutgers feel bad but it does just it seems like it. 723 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,500 Yeah Tim wood snapping maybe having I would say maybe 724 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,600 Syracuse behind but what Bay Times got one another 25 years 725 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,700 left. Yeah, just seems like he just he 726 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:53,200 keeps humming along and maybe a Eight more kids coming to play 727 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,900 for his team. Yeah. 728 00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,600 Well, hey Thomas, it's been awesome. 729 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,700 This season. I appreciate you coming on. 730 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:05,300 And yeah, let's maybe try and do like a, you know, Season recap 731 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:10,600 or definitely a season preview as we look into the fall because 732 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:13,400 depending on how I you does we may not have the interest in 733 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,100 just doing a ton of ton of recap 5 gas at this point, but you 734 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,300 know, if a I would say of a big 10 team, Make some noise in the 735 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,000 tournament gets to a final form a win. 736 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,800 Title will have to have you back on and kind of recap slate that 737 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,200 because it only happens once every 25 years. 738 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,500 It seems so weird. Again, follow them on a Big Ten 739 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:36,500 Powerhouse at BT powerhouse on Twitter and Thomas. 740 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:37,700 It's been awesome and everybody else. 741 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:41,100 Thanks for listening. We will we'll Circle back at the 742 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:45,600 end of the Big Ten tournament and see what Indiana's fate is. 743 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,700 And if we're playing in the NCAA tournament, or if we have to go 744 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,900 on the dark, dirty web, looking at nit. 745 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,900 Seed lines again. So dirty. 746 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:59,000 So so wrong, but we will see. But for anybody out there. 747 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,900 Thank you guys, for listening and this is Scott for Crimson 748 00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:03,500 cast signing off.