1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,500 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:20,200 field. Apparel, welcome back to 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,900 Crimson, Cask ale and clavius got Caulfield joining, you here. 4 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:26,600 It is Friday. December 2nd, happy, December to 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,700 all y'all. It's Definitely, fully 6 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:34,000 basketball season. Now is Indiana with a huge win 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,800 this week. They take out the North Carolina 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,700 Tar, Heels in both Sports both men's basketball and women's 9 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:42,300 basketball. And now Indiana fully into the 10 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:46,300 thick of the robust part of the schedule. 11 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:49,800 We're going to talk about the game, coming up this weekend and 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,300 just some general thoughts and feelings on men's basketball. 13 00:00:52,300 --> 00:00:55,200 Be sure to tune in to the women's basketball podcast here 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,300 on Crimson cast brought to you by Amanda Foster, that's 15 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:01,700 releasing right now. Every Day and man has got the 16 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:05,200 latest on all the things going on with the women's team and 17 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:08,600 would definitely recommend checking that out Scott. 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Good to see you. Don't normally talk to you on a 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Friday. This is an unexpected bonus 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,800 treat. How are you doing today? 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,600 A great to see you too. Yes, treat to talk. 22 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:20,100 Let's go ahead and dive in. But first just a reminder that 23 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:21,600 we are part of the back home network here. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Crimson cast in the back home network is brought to you by 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,400 home-field apparel, your place to go for the finest in college, 26 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:29,700 Fashions and finery the softest fabric. 27 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:32,700 So Hoodies, t-shirts, crewnecks. Whatever. 28 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:36,500 You might be looking for home field, apparel the place to go 29 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:38,500 for it. If you missed their Black 30 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:41,600 Friday, Cyber Monday composite sale. 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,300 That's a shame because that's a great deal, but you still get a 32 00:01:45,308 --> 00:01:46,600 chance. If you've never shopped, don't 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,900 feel the parable for tis. Make some savings on your first 34 00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:51,800 purchase. Get 15% off your first order. 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,200 If you use the code home Home2, when you get a home field 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,700 apparel.com be sure to check out home field on Twitter as well. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 For All U IU fans in the audience which I think is 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,900 everybody in the audience except for the few Purdue fans, who 39 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:09,800 hate listen to us. There's plenty of IU apparel and 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,100 actually for you pretty hate listeners. 41 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,200 There's a parallel for you to pretty much everything out 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,300 there. So check it out, home field, 43 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:19,600 apparel.com, and check them out on socials home-field apparel 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,100 your place to go. For college, fashion Scott, 45 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:28,600 Indiana still undefeated a comprehensive Victory on 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,400 Wednesday is they take out the North Carolina. 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,500 Tar Heels, who were number one and have now lost three games in 48 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:36,700 a row. Indiana, just smothering North 49 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:39,200 Carolina in this contest defensively. 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,300 What you were there, we talked at halftime. 51 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:46,100 Did a normal little meet up on The Concourse. 52 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:50,200 We were not really concerned at halftime as much as we were just 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,800 angry at the inconsistency in the officiating. 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,800 More than anything else. Your overall reaction having 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,600 watched that game from beginning to end, And that consistency in 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,300 reffing, the quality of the second habit, wasn't gonna know 57 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:04,900 better than yeah. That didn't. 58 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:09,900 And that was I think you hit on the head of the comprehensive 59 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:11,700 Victory. The defense was awesome. 60 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:13,800 I have to drive home to Westfield. 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,700 I ended up watching the first half of the game that night 62 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:18,900 before I went to bed and watch the other half in the morning 63 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:20,500 whether you're gonna see you watched it while you were 64 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,200 driving. As I had to don't do that. 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Please don't do that. It's got but not listen to our 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,100 friends, the assembly call. I was dragging on on Thursday. 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,700 Because of all that, no, it was a couple things, you know, the 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,000 the atmosphere was awesome. I texted earlier that it didn't, 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,700 I stand by that the buzz before the Purdue game last year was 70 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:43,000 like that was reminiscent of Kentucky. 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,700 There was something special in the air, it wasn't quite at that 72 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:48,400 level but it really got there to a fever pitch. 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,200 They did a great job with like having the band come out on the 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,200 court and play got a very fired up and then by once the game 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,600 started that was a pretty raucous atmosphere. 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,700 I hope that we can Can continue that it it again goes to show 77 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:03,700 and I feel like we said this once I'll say it again. 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Doesn't take that long like three years ago we were in the 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Archie are kind of the malaise called the Jimmy Carter year. 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,400 It's like the malaise of IU basketball you know a scant 24 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,200 months later and assembly Halls rocking like maybe only the last 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,200 three or four times in the last 20 years and that was a great. 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,300 Great atmosphere sit with my friend, Tom for the game. 84 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,900 His death will meet her on his on. 85 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:28,100 His watch went off. Like you're at 90. 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,600 Like, don't do this for over 30 minutes, it could do hearing 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,800 damage and we're both kind of eventually like you think like 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,600 oh my gosh like yeah we're really going to Rattle the team 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,600 and you think like, all right well, North Carolina plays. 90 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,300 It Duke like it would probably going to be more against like 91 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:42,700 the, you know, Morehead State's where no one shows up. 92 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:47,100 But all that said, from a game perspective, the takeaway is the 93 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:51,800 defense was stifling. It was, it was Unreal and in the 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,000 re watching Jay bilas kept on talking about the defense and 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,700 just how far out North Carolina took To get their offense going. 96 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:03,000 And you know what's, what's funny is? 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Well, we don't have the three-point shooting to kind of 98 00:05:05,407 --> 00:05:09,300 put a team away in a weird way. We are defense puts him away, 99 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:12,700 like there's moments in the second half, where, you know, it 100 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:15,000 was like a fight, you'll six or seven point game, it's like, 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,600 ooh, here's the North Carolina can make the run and then Xavier 102 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,700 Johnson just gets in the passing Lane steals, the ball and has a 103 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:23,800 layup. And so I still think that our 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,400 three-point shooting we can talk about that. 105 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,000 That's that was the only negative in this game in in 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,800 That, you know, it felt like we could have put North Carolina 107 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 away 17 times in the second half. 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,600 We just didn't not able to do it. 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,600 And again, North Carolina is not a dumpy team, but it felt like 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,900 we let them hang around because we couldn't have that like 111 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:46,400 nine-point barrage in three. Possessions that said it felt 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,900 like our defense was never going to let them get within six or 113 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:52,800 seven points. The defense is just is unreal. 114 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:57,300 I would also say to there's a really nice mix with this team 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,100 where they Really play some up-tempo as well. 116 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:04,000 Like, they do a lot on turnovers to turn defense into offense and 117 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,300 you can see Xavier try and fast break. 118 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:09,700 And the last thing I'll say is just the, you know, we talked a 119 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:13,200 lot about the combo of Xavier Johnson and Jalen Hood, safiye 120 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,000 no hood rufina look like you know, all he was advertised for 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,300 in this game but it was really cool. 122 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:22,900 Seeing both of them out there kind of switching off of who was 123 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:24,400 going to play full-court defense. 124 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,400 And you almost have this weird, you know, Allah not Wait, you 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,700 know, like 40 minutes of hell, or Kentucky, full-court defense, 126 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:34,000 but you have this moment where it was, like, I'm sorry, North 127 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,300 Carolina. Never got to bring the ball up 128 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:36,600 just easily. It's like Hood. 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,100 Sophina was either guarding full court or Xavier, is doing it or 130 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:42,200 they both were, it's like, we're almost full court pressing and 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,700 then we're running. I mean, it's a, it's a really 132 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:47,000 Dynamic team, it's a fun team to watch. 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,700 And I will just say that the defense, you know, North 134 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:54,300 Carolina scored in that game, you know, under a one-point 135 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:56,000 possession. They haven't done that the 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,600 entire season. It the defense is really the 137 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,400 takeaway from this. It's awesome. 138 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,300 And there's really no reason to think you're not going to see 139 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,700 that kind of defense for most of the Season. 140 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Yeah, he would dig great takeaway that. 141 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:10,500 I mean, that was the big thing for me is that the way that I 142 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:15,700 you plays defense really travels well and yeah, you know, you 143 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:20,300 look at if you look at adjusted defensive efficiency marks which 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,700 you know that you can kind of go back and forth between the raw 145 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:27,400 numbers in the wrong numbers. This was the second best 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,500 offensive Runs for an opponent in terms of raw numbers, you 147 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:36,000 know, but the, this was adjusted wise, the second-best that 148 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,900 Indiana's played defensively like only against 149 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:40,900 Bethune-Cookman who they just absolutely walloped has. 150 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:43,500 And the, all the adjustment. For those of you who aren't 151 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,800 aware is you take the raw numbers. 152 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Then you essentially filter them through how the opponent 153 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,500 normally plays. And so holding, as you said 154 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,900 North Carolina to under a point per possession and holding them, 155 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:59,100 I think most impressively to such a low low effective field 156 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:00,800 goal percentage. That was the thing that got me 157 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,000 in that could have actually been better. 158 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,300 I mean, on the game North Carolina was fifteen to forty 159 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:09,900 one from to and that included some layups by Armando baked cod 160 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:11,800 at the end. When Indiana was just trying not 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,900 to foul in North Carolina. Shot 27.8% from three. 162 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:19,500 Like the only thing frankly that kept North Carolina in this 163 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:23,900 game, was the parade to the free-throw line that they were 164 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:27,900 allowed by the absolute inconsistency of the officiating 165 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:30,600 that We're seeing. So I think, you know, even 166 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,400 though those with those three star real quick with those 3s 167 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:37,000 two of them like one was a bad shot that banked in there is 168 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,200 another one early in the first half where it was just 169 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 phenomenal defense. And I will say that I said to my 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 buddy, Tom, like, multiple times during the game as North 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,300 Carolina was taking a shot, like, that's great defense. 172 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:50,100 And the ball goes in like this is where there's really not a 173 00:08:50,108 --> 00:08:53,700 stat for the probably is I just it's way Advanced, but I would 174 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:56,700 say that you know of North Carolina's 65 points, I would 175 00:08:56,700 --> 00:09:00,800 say 20 225 maybe even 30 of those points. 176 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,300 Any less than 24 points came where we were playing excellent 177 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:08,300 defense and North Carolina just made a better play. 178 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:10,900 Which to me is like, that's all you can ask for. 179 00:09:10,908 --> 00:09:13,400 Like, I again, there's 13 in that first half where it's like, 180 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:16,000 we just had a hand in the face. Perfect Defense, perfect 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,900 rotation. It's like, well, some shots you 182 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:19,700 got to live with. Yeah, that's, that's, that's the 183 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:21,000 thing. And that's where the stats don't 184 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 always shine through the other big stat. 185 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,500 I think that I was impressed by 13 combined blocks and steals 186 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:29,600 for A in this game, North Carolina. 187 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,900 I want to manage seven and Indiana with a 7:47 assist to 188 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:38,000 turnover ratio. North Carolina's was 5 to 10 so 189 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:41,500 there just wasn't and you know? And look I do think I don't want 190 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:42,900 them. Not trying to pour cold water on 191 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:44,400 any of this. I do think by the end of the 192 00:09:44,408 --> 00:09:47,400 season. A lot of the initial height for 193 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,400 North Carolina's going to die as people realize that this team 194 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:55,300 really isn't as good as everybody assumed that they were 195 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:57,300 now. You know, that's the media's 196 00:09:57,300 --> 00:09:59,000 fault. Quite Frankly, because they were 197 00:09:59,008 --> 00:10:01,900 the ones that took that short tournament burst and assumed 198 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:03,400 that they were going to extrapolate it over the course 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 of the whole season. There's been a lot of there was 200 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,500 even it was a whole ESPN story. The day after the Indiana 201 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Victory about ship, is it time to panic about North Carolina? 202 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,700 And the answer is probably. Yes, but they're not completely 203 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:16,800 hopeless. And I mean that neutral Court 204 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,900 game, they had against Alabama, over the weekend that went to 4 205 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:22,200 over X and it's a really good Alabama teen. 206 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,600 So, this is not a totally incapable North Carolina team. 207 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:28,500 They're probably about a six, seven, eight seed at At the end 208 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:31,300 of the day. But I think right now this is a 209 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:35,200 really big win for this IU team because they are perceived as 210 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,700 being very good and it's a nice warm up to the actual good 211 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:40,000 teams. That Indiana is going to be 212 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 playing here over the next few weeks and into the Big Ten 213 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,500 season. So, you know, you like it 214 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:46,600 shouldn't. I don't want to get into the 215 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,400 officiating, but the thing that Shone through for me with the 216 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,500 officiating is this is that there is moments last year. 217 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 The Purdue game is a great example, where Trace Jackson 218 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Davis does not get, Jackson Davis does not get in foul 219 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 trouble, but yet in that game he automatically I think got two or 220 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,500 three fouls in the first half and then all of a sudden it's 221 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:11,400 you know Logan dunk them time and you need otherworldly game 222 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,200 from Rob fennessy to you know get you through in this game. 223 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:18,000 You had traced Jackson Davis with three fouls. 224 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,800 We're not going to talk about whether they're real or not but 225 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,900 like he had three fouls. You had Jordan Geronimo with 226 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:24,700 four fouls. You have Malik renew with three. 227 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:27,900 Fouls, you had race Thompson. With three, fouls your basement 228 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:30,100 Our front line was always in foul trouble from like the 229 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:34,200 10-minute mark on but it never felt like we had that moment 230 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,700 where it's like, oh God, we got adjust your grip, the steering 231 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:39,000 wheel with our grip, the steering wheel with our, you 232 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,200 know, our reserves to see if we can make it through five 233 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,400 minutes. Like, there was always lineups 234 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,600 out there, where it's, like, I'm comfortable with what we have. 235 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,600 And to me, that was really nice to see is like, you know, again 236 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,900 last year if you had race Thompson? 237 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:52,700 Trace Jackson, Davis, both and foul trouble in the first half. 238 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:55,500 It would be like, oh, this is gonna be a rough second half, 239 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,500 but it's like, no, we're able to throw in Geronimo. 240 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,900 Renew. They both had some foul trouble 241 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,300 and it's a Galloway can take spots. 242 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:04,500 Like, you really did see that Frontline depth, the ability to 243 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,800 rotate and guys, and not lose a lot. 244 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:10,400 Thanks to the rest calling a ton of fouls on our big men. 245 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:12,700 Someone texted me. Pictures. 246 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:15,900 Is my friend Steve texted me about this after the game. 247 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:22,600 And it was it was a good observation that this was the 248 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,200 type of officiating at Indiana would likely see in the NCAA 249 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,300 tournament, you know? And and this is the I believe 250 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:30,500 vitiating that is hurt. A lot of Big Ten teams in the 251 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,300 NCAA tournament, where it's like, wait, why are we not 252 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:36,700 calling this both ways? Eat / do, Zack ET, right? 253 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:38,900 What? And so the fact that Indiana was 254 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:44,800 able to not just survive this but still win comfortably. 255 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,400 I think is a really good sign and part of it is the depth at 256 00:12:48,408 --> 00:12:50,900 Indiana is exhibiting. I mean, nine guys, that played 257 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:53,200 at least 11 minutes in this game. 258 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:55,800 Nine guys, that scored at least two points. 259 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Nine guys, that grabbed at least one Rebound that blows my mind 260 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:04,000 like and you think about it. Indiana got very little 261 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,500 offensively out of Malik renew. They got very little offensively 262 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:09,800 out of Jordan Geronimo. They get very little offensively 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,100 at a race Thompson, and I got very little offensively out of 264 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:16,700 Miller cop, you know, all but what 11? 265 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,400 So what 60-66 of the 77 points came from four players. 266 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,000 And you know, and you didn't file anybody out, I mean, the 267 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,000 most fouls that anybody got for Indiana were for Jordan Geronimo 268 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,800 and again going alongside what you just said this is not 269 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,600 something Indiana could have sustained against last year or 270 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,400 the year before that or the year before that, the team was so 271 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,700 top-heavy. The fact that there's nine guys 272 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,200 and really want to get down to brass tacks. 273 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,000 You could, if you had to probably bring in either Kayla 274 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Banks or Logan, dunk them and survive for five or ten minutes 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,500 with them playing really solid defense and hopefully not taking 276 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,300 anything off the table from an offensive perspective. 277 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:59,200 So I was really pleased to see all of the That, you know, an 278 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Indiana comes out of this game, still in the top five in 279 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 effective field goal percentage. Despite, you know, I mean they 280 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,200 shot fine. But they, you know, I mean, they 281 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,100 almost shot 23 percent from three but 228 of 49 from to 57 282 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:21,800 percent for the team 50 points. I think total in the paint or 56 283 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:27,300 points total in the paint, it is really a fascinating thing to 284 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,300 watch this. Indiana offense, not need the 285 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:33,300 three-point shooting it. As you know, it is something 286 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:35,900 that if they get the wrong opponent, or if they have the 287 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:38,500 wrong kind of game, it will be a problem. 288 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,300 But they've gotten three point shooting in other games and I 289 00:14:42,308 --> 00:14:45,400 am, you know, the fact that so much of Indiana's kind of 290 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,800 centrifugal force is around these little triangles that 291 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,200 they're forming with Tres Jackson Davis and a wing. 292 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,000 And either Xavier Johnson, or Jalen Hood Ruffino and their 293 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,400 Swing it back across. If things aren't working their 294 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,800 ability to come up with new wrinkles, those are all things 295 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:05,000 that will travel well again to kind of over use that phrase, 296 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,000 the fact that plus their defense has already demonstrated now in 297 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,800 two different situations where they're playing, you know, add 298 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Xavier tough road environment team that caught fire from 299 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,500 outside to some degree, North Carolina, team with certainly a 300 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:22,500 lot of talent that really gives me a lot of Hope as far as what 301 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:29,900 this team ceiling might actually be Yeah, I you know, I I do 302 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:32,100 think that you saw like, you know, Jalen Hood should be no 303 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:36,300 had a much better game shooting from three, you know, Xavier 304 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,400 Johnson went 0 for 3. I think most games he hits one, 305 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,100 maybe two of those, you know? And then you you just do hope 306 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:46,800 that if they was great about this team. 307 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:49,500 And again, I do think I was telling this to my dad the other 308 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,600 day. Like, in the end, the flaw of 309 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,300 this team is probably three point shooting. 310 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,000 It's going to catch up with them on some games. 311 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:57,600 Might be what catches up with them in the tournament, but 312 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,300 where were in such a different spot than in previous years were 313 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:02,900 three point shooting was also, an issue is like when you go to 314 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:05,500 the Ken Palm page and just look on the left side and it kind of 315 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:07,800 has all of the stats it'll last year. 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,600 A lot of stuff was even even last year's team. 317 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,600 A lot of stuff was in red. You like, you know, bad 318 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,200 free-throw, shooting not a lot of Steel's. 319 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,900 They gave up a lot of Steel's, like a lot of red, red 320 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:18,400 indicators here. And there, like for this team, 321 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,700 everything's in green. Like it's one of these things 322 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:24,900 where they could just increase three-point shooting by 3 to 4%. 323 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,500 Through the year, which is a huge. 324 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:30,300 I don't think it's going to happen, but it's like, then 325 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:32,800 suddenly we're talking about a team that could make a run to a 326 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,100 final four. Like everything else is right 327 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:38,800 about this tea, like, everything else is fantastic. 328 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,800 The only thing is really the three-point. 329 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,900 Shooting is not where it needs to be, but with the defense, I 330 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:48,500 still think you can have a. I still think this season is 331 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:51,100 going to end where I thought it would, which is first. 332 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:53,700 Second, third, in the Big Ten, probably edging toward first 333 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:55,700 second. The Big Ten and Having a real 334 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:58,000 shot at, you know, making the sweet 16 and making some noise 335 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 from there. And I think you can do that 336 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:02,600 without great three-point shooting because this team has 337 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,400 Elite level defense, like just Elite level defense. 338 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,300 Yeah, and you know, they look it's going to be interesting to 339 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:13,200 see how that interacts with what they're going to see elsewhere 340 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,099 in the conference. But, you know, I think you look 341 00:17:15,099 --> 00:17:19,300 across the conference right now at who the top teams are and 342 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,599 what they're doing. And it's an interesting group in 343 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,400 that speaking of the media, big tents down, you know, every year 344 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,800 big tents down big Ten's down, the narratives are just an 345 00:17:27,808 --> 00:17:31,400 escape of my new favorite. One is like, you know, and look 346 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,000 even Brennan, I you Alum is working inside the hall. 347 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,100 He, you know, I have a lot of respect but he wrote a power 348 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:40,500 pole for the athletic and he's at Maryland 10th. 349 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:45,300 And he's got Maryland 10th because they beat the hell out 350 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:48,700 of Louisville. Who last I checked is a hideous. 351 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:52,400 Hideous basketball program, hard to hard to overcome the 352 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,400 narratives right now it's interesting though because like 353 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,700 you've got Purdue who is not an elite, three-point shooting team 354 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:00,500 this year, they're shooting 33.3%, which is what Indiana 355 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:04,100 shot last year. They're taking more 3s 356 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:08,100 significantly more as a overall aspect of their offense than 357 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:11,900 Indiana is, you've got Illinois. Who looks pretty good? 358 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:13,700 That's a fairly good three-point shooting team. 359 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:17,700 At 35 Point, I think eight percent but that's actually 360 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:20,500 worse than what Indiana shooting so far this year from three, 361 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,300 you've got Maryland, who's not shooting the three well at all 362 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,200 right. Now, 31.8%. 363 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,900 So it's like, will this come back to bite? 364 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,300 Indiana, I mean, it could, but Indiana shooting betters from 365 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:34,000 three right now than Iowa. When was the last time that we 366 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,700 could say that. So, these are some things to 367 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,200 keep in mind. Try not to look at these 368 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,400 statistics in a vacuum, I guess would be my message to you folks 369 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,600 out there. You know, try to think about how 370 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,300 it looks holistically. When you get right down to it, 371 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,500 you know, Indiana is playing defensively right now. 372 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,000 They're the, they're the second. East team. 373 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 If you rank all the Big Ten teams in terms of adjusted 374 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,400 defensive efficiency, Illinois, first barely at Ninth in the 375 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,400 country, Indiana, 2nd and 11th in the country. 376 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,100 Rutgers is third at 12 to in the country Wisconsin's 4th at 16th. 377 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:15,200 In the country, it's a pretty Elite defensive group overall in 378 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,100 this conference and then on the offensive side, you know, where 379 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:19,400 you are. If you're an Indiana fan, you 380 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,700 should really get excited. There are more efficient 381 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:24,600 offenses in the conference Iowa's fourth in the nation. 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,100 So, FR Ohio State seventh in the nation so far produced fifth in 383 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,900 the nation so far. But in terms of balance, I'll 384 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:33,800 take Indiana's balance over everybody else as Indiana's 12th 385 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,500 in the nation and offensive, efficiency and 11th and 386 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:39,200 defensive efficiency. We'll see how it plays out. 387 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,400 Lot more to play and we got some big ten games starting tonight, 388 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,100 actually. So we'll get a little, some more 389 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,600 answers. But you don't look at stats in a 390 00:19:47,608 --> 00:19:49,600 vacuum. I guess is my point and I think 391 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,500 Indiana has gotten more than enough thus far in terms of what 392 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,100 they need from the three-point line. 393 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,000 That's not Big of a narrative point is, it was made out to be 394 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,400 at least so far early on this season. 395 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,600 The totally agree and it is, you know, it is fun. 396 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,300 Even just talking with some friends, you, you have to pay 397 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:11,000 attention but it's like that win at Xavier is going to hold up. 398 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Well, other people I got you. So Indiana beat one, you know. 399 00:20:14,008 --> 00:20:15,200 It's like I would be North Korea. 400 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,900 People, some people are like God North Carolina but they were on 401 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:19,800 a rut, you know, on a bender and it's like okay. 402 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,200 But like North Carolina may not be the number one team in the 403 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,100 country. They're still gonna be a 404 00:20:23,108 --> 00:20:25,800 tournament team, like I'm not a bad team it's like Like Xavier 405 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,500 is ranked pretty much the same as North Carolina like the 31st 406 00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,800 and Ken palm and we beat them on the road, like there's two 407 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,000 solid, you know, there's two solid wins there. 408 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,900 A lot of teams at Purdue has put a lot of good non-cotton. 409 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:42,300 Oh, sorry, not good. Non-conference your neutral site 410 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:45,100 wins on but there's not a lot of teams that have, you know, Great 411 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:48,400 Road games out there. So I'm very happy, it is, it's a 412 00:20:48,408 --> 00:20:50,600 bummer. We're you've your eye in this 413 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,400 North Carolina. Game is a guy we can beat the 414 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,700 number one team in the country. They drop to, it's like I but we 415 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:56,100 still Them and it's like, all right. 416 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:58,100 Well by Arizona is going to be awesome. 417 00:20:58,100 --> 00:20:59,800 Like is that something like Arizona losses? 418 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Like I'm waiting for Kansas to lose. 419 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,800 I'm waiting for that top five matchup with Purdue like they're 420 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,200 going to lose the week before. It, it seems to be our destiny. 421 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:08,900 Well, he's not bad thing, but like teams to be like, losing 422 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:11,100 right before we play them. Well, yeah, when Kansas already 423 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,000 lost their one game, they lost in that neutral site, the 424 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Atlantis championship, and then they got to play at Mizzou this 425 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 weekend, which that's a rivalry game. 426 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,400 That's then they're they're not at home, they're over in 427 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,100 Colombia for that. So that'll be an interesting 428 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,500 one, but yeah, it's It is you here's the thing. 429 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,200 Don't we talked about this at the beginning of the Season? 430 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,700 You know, people were like, oh God, what if we go in for in 431 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:34,400 that stretch of games? And it's like, you know, you 432 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,700 just don't know. You really don't know how these 433 00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:39,700 things are going to play out in the fact that Indiana thus far, 434 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,900 has it burnished their record to the point where they look like a 435 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:47,400 legitimate top-10 team and some of these teams that were ranked 436 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,800 above them of kind of falling back a little bit, that's the 437 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,200 ebb and flow of the Season. You can't control these things. 438 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:54,300 These are none of these are going to be games that are any 439 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,600 less important For Indiana As you move forward. 440 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,900 And I do think that that really contributes to positive feelings 441 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:03,700 for this Indiana Squad. Couple things I wanted to get to 442 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:07,500 with Indiana's roster and some of the statistical things that 443 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,500 we've been noticing before we move on to talking about 444 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:12,700 Rutgers, some some notable things. 445 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:17,700 First of all, Tamar Bates, 40 percent from three, thus far 446 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:22,200 this season and he has taken the second, most threes of anybody. 447 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,600 On the roster, he's taken 23s, and he's made a Eight of them, 448 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,200 that's a huge thing. I actually don't think enough 449 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,400 has been made about that, you know, not as much of that as 450 00:22:31,408 --> 00:22:32,900 come against the top competition. 451 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:36,900 Certainly he's he's carried the load a little bit more and 452 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:41,000 played certainly a lot more against the the minnows only 12 453 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,900 minutes against Xavier didn't score in that game only 12 454 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:47,000 minutes against North Carolina three points in that game. 455 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,100 But again, a lot of this is like, you know what, the core of 456 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:54,800 this team is the core is Trace Jackson, Davis Xavier Johnson, 457 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,900 And Jalen hurd's Ruffino and then you've got the 458 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:01,100 complementary pieces and Tamar Bates being able to come off the 459 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:05,200 bench, shoot 23s, on the season and hit 40 percent of them that 460 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,200 really bodes. Well, because if Tamara can 461 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:09,800 straighten out some of the other aspects of his game and get 462 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:11,800 continue to get more game confidence. 463 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,200 I that's, that's a piece that Indiana didn't have. 464 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,200 That's kind of the Remy Abell piece from 2013 that you nobody 465 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,900 looks back. And says, God with Remy, Abell 466 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:24,500 that, you know, if you know, he had to perform at this immensely 467 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:26,200 high level. Well, you don't need everybody 468 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,800 to perform at a high level to be a really high-level team. 469 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:31,900 And so, yes, tomorrow's got some things in his game, he still 470 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:34,600 needs to work on, but thus far through this season through 471 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,500 seven games, his offensive rating is 134 and he's shooting 472 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,400 40% from three. Big thumbs up on both of those 473 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,100 items. The thing that I would sit 474 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,300 statistically you are correct. Numbers are real. 475 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,900 The thing with Tamar that I'll say that makes me concerned and 476 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:53,400 it's funny because I feel like he has a very high positive 477 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,700 rating in the fan base and then We'll have your I love Xavier 478 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:58,000 Johnson. I love what he brings but it's 479 00:23:58,008 --> 00:24:01,400 like you get that that, that old IU fan base that's like, oh 480 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,200 Xavier do this thing. Tamar did something in the North 481 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,500 Carolina game that I'm not a huge fan of. 482 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,300 I think it just needs to be pointed out. 483 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,400 Every time we made a run, he was like pointing to their bench, 484 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,800 like, saying that he had to call a timeout. 485 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,200 Okay. With that on the bench but then 486 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,900 the three that he did hit, he hit the three and then going 487 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:18,600 back on defense. He was in front of the North 488 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,100 Carolina bench and was just like barking. 489 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:23,100 I don't know. If it was it, their bench a 490 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,000 player apparently? Was that his dad? 491 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:28,800 Who sits right behind the bench. This was this was actually I saw 492 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,400 this. Somebody tweeted about this 493 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,700 afterwards so but then if you could tell he was like fired it 494 00:24:33,708 --> 00:24:34,900 looking as young as the bench, okay? 495 00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,500 Maybe it is Dad, that's fine. Still you gotta be like you 496 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,300 don't want the North Carolina people anyway but then he gets 497 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:44,300 the exact next play gets the ball and just heads drives right 498 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:46,300 into a dude. Like you can tell he's amped up 499 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:50,000 and like bulldozes in gets an offensive foul looks annoyed. 500 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,500 And all I'm saying is like had Xavier made that play? 501 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,100 Everyone would have been going bonkers like Just you hit a 502 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,100 three that's great. Like even if you're barking at 503 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,200 your dad, like just you got to turn it down, a notch and you if 504 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,500 you're in that role, you can't then immediately caused a 505 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:07,000 turnover and maybe you shouldn't be like barking. 506 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,300 Even at your dad, who's in front of the other team's bench who 507 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,200 might take it the wrong way? So it's a small thing but again 508 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,100 when you're playing a minimum level like you gotta just tone 509 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,500 it down. So that's that's all I'm with, 510 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,000 you know. And look like I said, tomorrow's 511 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,500 got a lot to work on still tomorrow for a five-star. 512 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:23,400 Recruit has been underwhelming and I know there's, you know, is 513 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000 he's had a lot going on in his life but But look, I'll take 514 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,200 positive contributions and guys being able to grow. 515 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,000 And I'm sure they'll be some stuff mentioned in film session 516 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,300 than, you know, before this Rutgers game about that. 517 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,700 And I think if you can get incrementally better tomorrow, 518 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:42,000 Bates, there's you're going to need that tomorrow Bates. 519 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,200 When you get to the Big Ten and I'd rather he went too far with 520 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,100 exuberance because that's these IU teams, have been so effing 521 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,700 passive over the course. There are places. 522 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:58,500 I mean, I will take Little bit of jocularity and exuberance, 523 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,800 even if it means running headlong into a guy and turning 524 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800 the ball over speaking of turning the ball over, you know, 525 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000 who still hasn't turned the ball over through four games of Play 526 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:11,600 Trey Galloway 0% turnovers and he is not like he's not played 527 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200 minutes, but 23 minutes against North Carolina coming off a knee 528 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,300 injury. Still has zero turnovers on the 529 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,300 season. He's also got an offensive 530 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:24,600 rating of 165. I mean tray guy. 531 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,700 You want Talk about guys that have improved from last year to 532 00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:31,900 this year. You know, this is a guy who I 533 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:35,700 know a lot of this is kind of the also High Q rating within 534 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:38,800 the IU fan base tray Galloway. I've had my questions on him, 535 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,700 turn the ball over on almost 23 percent of possessions, both his 536 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:46,000 freshman year and his sophomore year and also was just frankly 537 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,300 not a reliable offensive player at and his O rating was under 538 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,500 100. Both his freshman and sophomore 539 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,300 year. Looks like a it does look like a 540 00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:54,900 different player but looks like a player. 541 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,500 Who took a lot of the negative aspects of his game out. 542 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,300 And honestly we're maybe heading to a point where like you can't 543 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:04,500 keep him out of the starting lineup. 544 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,400 Like it's like we have to have well hold on. 545 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:10,600 If you think about what he provides especially if he who's 546 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,100 also in limited numbers shot 40% from three so far on this season 547 00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:20,000 only 245 but still he's a more diverse and dynamic offensive 548 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,800 player right now. The Miller cop and is playing 549 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,900 better defense and can handle the ball and isn't turning it 550 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:25,400 over. Over. 551 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Like that's where you have to you know even if you're going to 552 00:27:28,608 --> 00:27:30,900 play Just Galloway Off the Bench. 553 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:37,200 Now if he stays healthy, you don't worry about when Trey 554 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,300 Galloway, excuse me, when Jalen Hurd sophina or Xavier Johnson 555 00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:44,800 come off the floor because you have essentially a player that's 556 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:48,000 maybe a better statistical profile, who can give them, give 557 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,300 the team similar output to slot into either of those positions 558 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,300 or you can put him as a third guard. 559 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:56,000 As Indiana did essentially in the last It's at North Carolina 560 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,100 game and is a yeah. Right. 561 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,500 No Trey Galloway has been again defensively. 562 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,900 This is where this team is so awesome that you have you know 563 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:06,600 savior Johnson or Hood Shafi know. 564 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:09,900 Basically picking one of their guys up full court and then you 565 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:11,800 got to try Galloway. Basically once you get over half 566 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,700 court is just all, so they're picking up whoever he's got all 567 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,400 over the place and he is just all over the place on defense. 568 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800 They were talking about some assembly call that, you know, 569 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,900 maybe at some point Galloway should be starting. 570 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,400 I do kind of like having Galloway. 571 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,000 Come off the bench. And everything you said is true, 572 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,700 or maybe at the end of the year, Galloway will be starting but 573 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:30,800 there is something nice to view your North Carolina. 574 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,100 It's like, all right. The you know, we get out of the 575 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:35,000 starters like, oh, we're getting the bench guys and you have this 576 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,100 whole other level of Dynamics Dynamics ISM that comes in. 577 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,000 But in the end you know, it's like Miller Cops, playing 578 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800 minutes like a sub, like he's playing 17 minutes, Galloway 579 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,900 played 23, Bates Geronimo, renew played 12 and 11 and you know in 580 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:52,100 the end it's like obviously Woodson likes Galloway because 581 00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:53,800 like coaches. Always say it's not who starts 582 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 as who finishes and so, He's finishing the game which is more 583 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,100 important than who starts. But I were probably just 584 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,400 splitting hairs but I do kind of like at least at this point. 585 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:07,500 Having him come in with that second unit and just continue 586 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,800 the defensive pressure. Whereas if you have you know 587 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,100 hooked Ruffino and Xavier Johnson and Galloway, all 588 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:17,700 starting you do kind of drop off that defensive pressure with the 589 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:19,900 second unit with cop. But again we're splitting hairs 590 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:23,500 probably yeah I mean I'm not necessarily advocating, you 591 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:28,600 know, for one of the other it's Or you know at some point, yes 592 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,500 you want to have the players and I think cop also Millions up 593 00:29:31,508 --> 00:29:34,100 continuing to start because he's a senior and I do think that 594 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:37,400 that matters a lot to Woodson what I think is interesting 595 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,000 though is that you're getting such good statistical 596 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,300 contributions and so few mistakes how to train Galloway 597 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:47,300 the other. There are going to be some games 598 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:50,300 where you're going to want him in early as opposed to only 599 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,400 having them in late, because you can't afford to make the 600 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,900 mistakes early on the other. The only other one I wanted. 601 00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:58,800 Engine here is just how much they've your Johnson has 602 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,700 increased his contributions thus far on the saezuri. 603 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800 He's actually taking a step back in terms of assist rate, 604 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800 voluntarily. And I think it's interesting 605 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,700 because in the first few games there I had some questions 606 00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:13,600 about. Okay. 607 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,200 How's it going to manage this relationship with Jalen Hood 608 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Ruffino and yet? Now, it looks like a totally 609 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,200 natural relationship out there and they're just trading off 610 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,300 possessions and it's almost Most like, well, if I'm Xavier 611 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:29,800 Johnson, he's actually playing fewer minutes not by a huge 612 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,700 amount, but he's playing fewer minutes in jail hitch, a fee. 613 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,900 No, but he's converting chances that he's got out there. 614 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,900 He's drawing a lot of fouls. He's top 200 in the nation, thus 615 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:42,500 far early on still but top 200 and fouls drawn per 40 minutes. 616 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,300 He's top hundred in free-throw rate. 617 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,400 He's top 500 in free throw percentage and he's still 618 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,400 shooting 53% from three even after missing the threes that he 619 00:30:54,408 --> 00:30:58,200 took in the Carolina game. He's really upped his game to a 620 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,700 level that I wasn't totally sure was possible as I. 621 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:04,000 Well, I think we may have seen Peak Xavier Johnson last year 622 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,200 and if so, that's great. This is a different level of 623 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200 Xavier Johnson. One that fits more into the team 624 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,900 Dynamic than what we saw last year, know him and hoods defeat 625 00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:13,000 oats. Like you said, it's just like 626 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,600 they've been playing together for years. 627 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,000 I also his ability to draw fouls came in so handy that North 628 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400 Carolina game because in that second half there was moments 629 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,000 where he was just like, I'm going to get fouled like I'm 630 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,300 going to make it. So that they have to call a foul 631 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:29,600 on North Carolina. There's like three possessions 632 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200 and he's great at the end of games because it's like you're 633 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,400 going to foul him and he's gonna get fouled and he's gonna sell 634 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,600 it and you know the the two times in the game where the fans 635 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,400 were like doing the kind of like, you know, very fake 636 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,500 cheering for. Oh, you finally called a foul. 637 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,000 I'm pretty sure his Xavier Johnson was the one that had the 638 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,900 ball. I know in the second half, for 639 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,700 sure, it was him know his, his statistical numbers are awesome. 640 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,200 Move out, his offensive rating as a hundred and twenty five 641 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,000 point nine and to your point. I mean, it's Spit you said this 642 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,900 last time and it's true. I feel like I've brought this up 643 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:00,600 as well. Like I bring it up with kind of 644 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,200 the how many years guys have left but we played you know, a 645 00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:06,300 couple cupcakes here and there but it's like you know a fifth 646 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:09,200 of the seasons already gone. Like we're we have a pretty 647 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,300 strong statistical base here with to teach. 648 00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,200 You know, a home game in a row game against two. 649 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,900 Really good teams? No, he's been fantastic. 650 00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:21,500 And this team does trace Jackson. 651 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,300 Davis is the best player on this team. 652 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,900 He provides so many things, but This this team doesn't work if 653 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,700 Xavier Johnson isn't there, because there are still times 654 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:31,900 Hood Chaffee, no looked great against North Carolina, but 655 00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:35,000 there have been multiple times especially in the Xavier game, 656 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:37,400 where the team's kind of like, all right, we know we got to get 657 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,800 the ball and we're not sure what to do and it's like Xavier is 658 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,500 kind of like, all right, click give me the keys. 659 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600 I'll grab the steering wheel and I will take us home. 660 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,200 Let's talk about this Rutgers matchup. 661 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,200 That's coming up this weekend. This has been a house of horrors 662 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,200 for Indiana. They have not not had success 663 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,800 against Rutgers lately. There's a hilarious. 664 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,100 Article that you should read out of, I think nj.com about the an 665 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:03,200 old Crimson Corey post that is serving as a proxy for what has 666 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,300 been a very one-sided relationship in the Rutgers 667 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:09,600 Indiana competition, and nowhere has indeed agito Baker be in 668 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,900 like I'm not scared of them. He's right. 669 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,100 No, I mean though, they shouldn't be scared of Indiana, 670 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,400 because Indiana hasn't performed well against Rutgers. 671 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,400 I wore away some interest. So this is not the same Rutgers 672 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,200 as last year, they've yet to beat a team that is of any 673 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,000 quality. The best win thus far in the 674 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,700 season is a an eight-point home win against UMass Lowell they 675 00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:32,800 lost by 6 on a neutral Court to Temple. 676 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Who's not that great themselves, they lost at Miami that was a 677 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,700 closer game and I think they deserve credit because I 678 00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:43,700 actually think that Miami teams fairly decent overall as a team. 679 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,300 This is a pretty poor offensive unit for Rutgers their 108 in 680 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:49,500 the nation thus far and offensive efficiency. 681 00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:53,100 Their 259th and effective field goal percentage. 682 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,800 They don't shoot the three. Well there. 683 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,700 Shoot the two. Well, what do they do? 684 00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,400 Well, well, they rebound on offense pretty well. 685 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,500 Their 19th in the country there, they get to the free-throw line 686 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,100 quite a bit and they don't really turn the ball over that 687 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,300 much. They are a very, very good 688 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:10,000 defensive team. And I think that, you know, this 689 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,699 is something that Steve pikul has really hung his hat on with 690 00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:16,500 limited resources. And once again, they are 691 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,900 actually marginally better than Indiana. 692 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:23,300 In terms of I'm sorry they're they're actually one spot behind 693 00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:25,600 Indiana, not one spot in front but there About the same. 694 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,900 It's about the same defensive effort thus far, albeit against 695 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,100 weaker competition. The big difference here is that 696 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,699 Indiana is actually a really good offensive team in addition 697 00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:38,199 to being a really good defensive team whereas thus far Rutgers is 698 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,699 looked very one-sided. If you look at this Rutgers team 699 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:47,400 in terms of their overall, performance Clifford all marui 700 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,199 has been by far their biggest utiliser of possessions. 701 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:58,200 He is a very good player. Last year was was it was a key 702 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,800 figure for them. You'll probably remember. 703 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:03,600 He had a 13-point 12 rebound effort in that game that Rutgers 704 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,500 one at Assembly Hall towards the close of the Season. 705 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,200 He has been a really their only regular player. 706 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400 Who's been a standout offensive performer thus far this season? 707 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,600 You know, other than I guess maybe cam Spencer who uses far 708 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,300 fewer possessions but has also been pretty good. 709 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:24,600 Thus far Spencer, of course is 64 senior. 710 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,800 It's I have inherited the mantle that were left behind by Baker 711 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600 and Ron Harper jr. Elsewhere on this roster. 712 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,100 You got a bunch of guys who the testicle kind of look like 713 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,600 Indiana's had the last few years. 714 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,300 In terms of offense, a lot of players struggling. 715 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,800 Particularly from to they do hit free throws very well, Andre 716 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,900 Hyatt and Derek Simpson, you know, agar forward in a guard, 717 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,100 they're both shooting 8T 80% or better Camp. 718 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,900 Spencer's actually 95 percent from the free-throw line thus 719 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,800 far. This is a Rutgers team that is 720 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,200 Absolutely capable of beating Indiana at home not just because 721 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,700 it's Rutgers and it's in Rutgers I can't believe that we're 722 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,800 saying this but they are a team that if they're going to beat 723 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,700 you they're going to beat you because they turn you over a 724 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:08,100 bunch. They're going to beat you 725 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:10,700 because they take you out of your comfort zone in terms of 726 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:15,100 shooting and Rutgers then is able to kind of muscle their way 727 00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,100 over the finish line by hitting just enough shots and picking up 728 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,400 just enough offensive rebounds that they you know, they squeak 729 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400 out a victory. You know, you look at the 730 00:36:24,408 --> 00:36:26,400 numbers. Is this is probably not a team. 731 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,800 Indiana should be afraid of given the relative strengths and 732 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,000 weaknesses of both sides. But you have to take them 733 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,100 seriously. Scott because they have just 734 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:36,700 demonstrated their style of basketball works really well 735 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,100 against what Indiana's tried to do the last four or five years. 736 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,500 You are obviously correct about them being good defensively. 737 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:45,900 They are second in the country on three-point defense. 738 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,500 So jokes on them because we don't shoot every well anyway. 739 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:52,900 So there you go have fun with that because yeah ever and we'll 740 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,100 still win. No, I Rhythm in their 40th and 741 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,900 Ken Palm. This is not a garbage t-this is 742 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,800 it's like I said, I wanted the other pods like this is a it's a 743 00:37:02,808 --> 00:37:06,700 good team but if you are going to compete to win the Big Ten, 744 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,500 these are the kinds of games that you really need to win. 745 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,700 Like, I was going back and looking, you know, it's weird 746 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:14,300 because covid is popped in there. 747 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,300 But you know last year Illinois won the Big Ten they lost three 748 00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,700 Road games at. Maryland wasn't great at 749 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,500 Purdue's defensible, a trucker's oddly, it wasn't great, you 750 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,600 know. The covid ear is bizarre but the 751 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,000 year before the 1920 season. Michigan State won the Big Ten 752 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,600 before the season ended. They lost you know for road 753 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,500 games they lost at Purdue Indiana. 754 00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:38,000 Wisconsin and Michigan. All those teams at that time 755 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,300 we're ranked higher than this Rutgers team is this year. 756 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,600 All that being said is that if you're if you're assuming that 757 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,500 Indiana has a chance to win the Big Ten which I do, these are 758 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,200 the kinds of games you have to win because we still have Road 759 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,800 games. You know, at Iowa at Maryland. 760 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,500 At Purdue at Michigan and there's a lot of road games you 761 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:02,500 can't choke this. This is one of those that Wallet 762 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:06,600 not easy is going to be one of the better Road game wins. 763 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,000 You can get early on because you're probably going to drop 764 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,900 two or three in 2023 and that rate just because you're playing 765 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:15,900 some tubby, start played Purdue Michigan State on the road. 766 00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,300 So all that said, it's like this is a game. 767 00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:20,000 I do think that they are going to win. 768 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,900 I just I think our defense is really good and I just don't 769 00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,900 think that Rutgers has the offense to compete with our 770 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,400 defense. I think their defense is going 771 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,200 to give us some problems but in the end you know very few teams 772 00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,600 can stop the efficiency of what Trace Jackson Davis could do it. 773 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,900 Honestly at this point, the efficiency Xavier Johnson 774 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:41,800 provides me. Both of them are becoming very 775 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,600 efficient scores and I think that you kind of have a nice 776 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600 one-two punch of like art if you're going to stop one of them 777 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,800 outside will go inside. If you're just going to stop, 778 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,300 Dave, you're inside will be able to score efficiently outside or 779 00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:58,100 by driving in. So you know, I think I think 780 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,600 this is a game that, you know, as an IU fan you should be 781 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,800 cautiously optimistic going into it as one of these again that if 782 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,500 we're going to win the Big Ten, if if we lose this game it's not 783 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:08,200 all lost. But it's like you're now going 784 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,200 to have to it sucks to now have to start looking to make up some 785 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,200 ground already in the middle of December for the Big Ten season. 786 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,000 So, all that said, I think this is a game that is going to be 787 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,300 nip-and-tuck. It'll be close, but I think we 788 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:21,300 win. I think we're only like a 789 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:23,400 three-point, you know, favorite on the road. 790 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,800 And I think we can cover that as well. 791 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,600 Well one would hope. I mean you know it's interesting 792 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,600 if you go back and you look at where where did Indiana fall 793 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,500 down last year when they played against Rutgers and in the game 794 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:42,300 that they played at home against Rutgers, the biggest issue that 795 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:48,000 Indiana ran into frankly was that they did not. 796 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Really do a good job of keeping Rutgers from scoring, you know, 797 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,700 Indiana. If you look at the statistical 798 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,600 profile of that game, probably should have won the game. 799 00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:01,800 You know, that was an Indiana team that on the game, scored? 800 00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:03,400 One point per possession. Okay? 801 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,600 That's pretty good. They they didn't shoot great 802 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,400 from three. The shot 28%, they shot 79 803 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,300 percent from the free-throw line, which that's normally been 804 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:14,000 a big problem for IU. They only turned the ball over 805 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,600 nine times and they, you know, they picked up 11 combined. 806 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,600 Blocks and steals like that's normally a recipe for success. 807 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,400 But what happened in that game was Rutgers shot, 45 44 percent 808 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,700 from the from three Ron Harper went 548 Geo Baker went 347. 809 00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,200 Fortunately, the night goes. I think I think three or four of 810 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,300 those five were in like the last 10 minutes of the game. 811 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:41,000 Yeah, absolutely, you know and for a Rutgers team that as per 812 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,400 normal struggled to score, Indiana was not able to assert 813 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,900 their defensive will at a time when it Turd. 814 00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,000 And, you know, keep in mind that, you know, there was at one 815 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,100 point, Indiana LED that game 37 to 28 in the second half. 816 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,600 They let Rutgers go on a 10-nothing run, then got control 817 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,200 of the game and at, you know, after that ten, I think run 818 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200 Indiana, still had a seven point lead at one point. 819 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,600 And you know with with ten minutes to go, it was 52:43 and 820 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,700 Indiana ended up losing the game 60 62 63. 821 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,400 So it's a combination of things, certainly. 822 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,400 But you got to keep in mind that Indiana. 823 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,900 Did not finish the job off fensively or defensively in that 824 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:27,300 contest and ultimately that's the kind of thing where, if 825 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:33,100 you're Indiana, the consistency of effort is the going to be the 826 00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,600 big question mark for most of the Big Ten season because that 827 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,500 is what's eluded them in so many prior games, the last few 828 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,100 seasons. It was certainly a major thing 829 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,200 under Archie Miller and you know, you go back and look at 830 00:41:44,207 --> 00:41:47,100 the games at Indiana lost to Rutgers the previous year, and 831 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:49,400 it's a similar pattern where Indiana Anna would start off 832 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600 strong. You know, at that 10 minute Mark 833 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,800 of the first half of the game, the last game that Indiana 834 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,900 played at the rack which was February 24th. 835 00:41:55,900 --> 00:42:00,900 The 2021 they let 7:40, and they got outscored 10:33. 836 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,800 The rest of the way in that half, go ahead. 837 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:06,900 Well, as I say, the other thing that is different about this 838 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:08,700 Indiana team compared to last year's. 839 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:12,100 Just looking at the stats that game against Rutgers last year, 840 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:16,300 they played basically six guys, the starters all played 30 plus 841 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:20,100 minutes Fitness, he played 17, Had two points was basically a 842 00:42:20,107 --> 00:42:22,900 non-factor and then Jordan Geronimo. 843 00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:26,100 Michael dirr and Tamar Bates, all played under 10 minutes 844 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,200 Geronimo had six points, but he was so unimpressive as you have 845 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,500 an offensive rating and can bomb for the game. 846 00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,700 And, you know, during Bates were basically zero. 847 00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:37,200 You know, they Club trillion their way to those games. 848 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,400 You'll basically, six guys playing that game and nobody 849 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,400 else contributing. And and I don't think we're 850 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,900 going to see that out of Indiana at any point this season, but 851 00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,100 like, you know, it gives more Carolina. 852 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:50,900 Malik renew didn't look great against North Carolina. 853 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:53,000 But others five shots. Like I feel like four of them 854 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 were bunnies. That just yeah most nights are 855 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,600 going to go in. You tomorrow Bates had a good 856 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,200 get like I just I have a hard time seeing with this team with 857 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,900 the depth with the amount of different types of players. 858 00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:07,000 We have real hard time seeing this be in that spot where we're 859 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,700 just not able to score and only have six guys playing and not 860 00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:14,500 able to stop a team defensively. So I it just seems like this is 861 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:17,200 a much different Indiana team that lost to Rutgers last year, 862 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,500 obviously, I think it is. I mean, it. 863 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:21,200 You go back to the North Carolina game, Indiana, put a 864 00:43:21,207 --> 00:43:24,500 13-2 to run on North Carolina towards the end of the first 865 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,200 half and then came out of the gates. 866 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,500 And if you take the last basket, they scored in the first half 867 00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:33,800 and add it onto the beginning, as had a 12-2 run, those kinds 868 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,000 of runs offensively. Have not happened for Indiana. 869 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:42,900 It feels like since 2016 and and so that's a mentality thing as 870 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:47,600 much as it is an execution thing and I am optimistic the fact 871 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,300 that I mean when you look at A lot of those Rutgers games, 872 00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:53,600 Rutgers has been able to put runs on Indiana. 873 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,600 That Indiana hasn't been able to counter. 874 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,100 And you know, what did it last year in the one game they played 875 00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,100 against Rutgers was the 10-0. Run that Rutgers put on them at 876 00:44:01,107 --> 00:44:03,300 the beginning of the second half, so it's a test for 877 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,200 Indiana. Can they get themselves through 878 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,600 an opponent putting together a big run or just keep runs from 879 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,400 happening either way and keep it as a back-and-forth and then 880 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,200 gradually pull out. That's essentially what Indiana 881 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,500 did against Xavier were there. Never was a big run for either. 882 00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,400 Team in that game. And yet Indiana was able to keep 883 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,900 themselves in the game. Long enough to finally do some 884 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,900 things in winning time in the second half of the second half. 885 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:30,200 So anyway, that game coming up and then obviously Nebraska 886 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,700 coming up afterwards, we'll probably pot about IU, 887 00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:34,700 basketball, before that, Nebraska game. 888 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:37,100 That's on Wednesday. As there's a lot coming up. 889 00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,100 Immediately after that that will want to be talking about but 890 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,200 huge game for Indiana. If they win this obviously, it'd 891 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,100 be their first road win in the conference, be their first 892 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,700 Conference win. It pushed them to 8 and 0 on the 893 00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:54,100 season. and I think would really fortify their credentials as you 894 00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,800 know a potential top five team not that I really care about the 895 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,400 polls but in realistically speaking you know Indiana right 896 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,100 now and Ken pom is a thin the country you know that it I do 897 00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:08,300 look at those sorts of things and I say you know if Indiana 898 00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:10,300 can put a really good combination offensive and 899 00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:13,800 defensive performance together and continue to move up in terms 900 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,400 of efficiency and what they're doing in terms of efficiency 901 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,000 margin. That's really what I want to 902 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,600 see. I want to see a win first and 903 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,200 foremost, I really How that happens and need it needs to be 904 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,700 a win, but I'd like to see some style points as well. 905 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,600 In terms of, can they defend efficiently, can they defend? 906 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,100 You know, consistently throughout the 40 minutes and 907 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:33,800 can they get offensive production on the road? 908 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,600 It's just annoying. That Purdue has this, like, 909 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,400 great Runway. Like they had a great run, but 910 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,400 then it's like, you look at their schedule. 911 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,000 It's like, they're home to Minnesota the play Hofstra there 912 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,900 at Nebraska, then Davidson New Orleans, Florida A&M than home 913 00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:49,400 to Rutgers. It's like they're going to, they 914 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,400 might be the number one team in the country. 915 00:45:50,408 --> 00:45:53,100 Come January, just The fact they're not going to lose good 916 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,300 until January 5th. But again, like, you priest. 917 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,200 It's not about winning November. It's not about winning December. 918 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,400 You know, I'm not, I'm like, you not as worried about the the 919 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,200 rankings to me. I think I said this before as 920 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,500 well. Like these next two, games to me 921 00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:09,800 are more important while I'm going to Vegas. 922 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,500 I probably drive him to Kansas like the Arizona, Kansas games, 923 00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:15,400 are going to be fun. Those are in the end. 924 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:18,400 Those are really empty calories, whereas Rutgers and Nebraska 925 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,400 like if we go two and two in the next for I want to win Rucker. 926 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,300 Nebraska because that's, that's going to get us to a big-time 927 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:25,400 love to go for it. Oh yeah. 928 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,300 But that's going to get us closer to a big tent. 929 00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:30,500 I'd much rather be that than like, you know, three in one, 930 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,800 but having lost to Rutgers, it's like you kind of leave that 931 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,400 being like, that's that's gonna that's gonna bug me in February. 932 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,500 That's gonna come back to haunt you. 933 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,500 I hope Purdue continues to win. I really do. 934 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:43,500 I'm not, I'm actually not that afraid of Purdue. 935 00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,700 I think they've, they're playing very well, but I am not well, 936 00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:50,400 we'll talk about that. Another time, I hope the kiss, I 937 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,700 hope you take this call. It is, I hope they did. 938 00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:55,600 There was there was there was that story, you know, the last 939 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,800 time that Purdue in Indiana were both ranked in the top 10 at the 940 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,200 same time was like 1998? I think it was and the last time 941 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:10,000 they played each other ranked in the top 10 was 1987 and here's 942 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000 the thing and we've and the lat, this is the last thing we'll 943 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,400 talk about. Before we wrap up, I love when 944 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,500 Purdue in Indiana are both good at the same time. 945 00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:21,900 And I actually think that it is a detriment To college 946 00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:25,300 basketball when they're both not good at the same time because we 947 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:28,600 have watched in our lives times. When both of these teams were 948 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200 legit top, 10, top, 15, top 20 teams. 949 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,900 And it, it's a rivalry that should be so much bigger than it 950 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,000 is. And both schools are to blame 951 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,700 because both schools have done a bad job of managing themselves. 952 00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:43,700 As top level programs, historically like long tail, 953 00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:46,500 over the last 25 years. I would love nothing more to 954 00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:48,400 enter into the next five to seven years. 955 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,800 We're both of these teams are consistently top, 20 it Wood. 956 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:55,400 It's when the Big Ten was at its apex was when both of these 957 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,100 programs were that good? I do not begrudge Purdue their 958 00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,500 success, but I'm also not scared of them. 959 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:05,600 Very fair. I, that February 4th game. 960 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,000 I'm circling that could be a, it'd be great if we both come 961 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,600 in, you know, top ten. I will just end it. 962 00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:11,400 I agree with you. It does suck that, like, we've 963 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,400 been both like opposite parabolas. 964 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,200 Like when Indiana's good produce Badness, like we can't seem to 965 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,500 sync it up. It's nice. 966 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,800 I would just end with this story. 967 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,700 My buddy, Danny came over today. And he's a Michigan fan. 968 00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,900 I do he's a friend but I don't begrudge him that. 969 00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:28,500 But last year we were talking before, when when st. 970 00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:31,500 Peter's beat Kentucky and I'm just like, God, like produce got 971 00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:32,900 a path but they're going to get the final four. 972 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:35,300 It's gonna drive me nuts. He's just like, hey, who's 973 00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:37,100 produce coach like that painters? 974 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:38,200 Like there you go? You'll be alright, like they're 975 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,100 not going to make it. I'm like I said again that 976 00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,200 there's some great stuff. Like he's probably a coach, I 977 00:48:42,207 --> 00:48:44,700 would have wished, we had her last 20 years but this this 978 00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:46,500 morning he comes over or having donuts. 979 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,300 And I'm like, man pretty looks really good and he's like hey 980 00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:50,600 who's your coach again looking at factors? 981 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,100 Like there you go. I'll be fine. 982 00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,000 And then I also was like, hey man, I got to talk to you. 983 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,100 I watch the end that Virginia game, like Juwan Howard, he 984 00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,800 sucks the coach. So you should maybe be talking 985 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,800 about coaching, Matt. Matt Painter is kind of the 986 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,100 Gonzaga of coaches, where sportswriters, just cannot help 987 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,600 but Fawn all over him and look rightfully. 988 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,100 So but we'll talk about that. Another time finishing up with 989 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:13,700 something else. Indiana related. 990 00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:20,200 I will say that, you know, the one of the fascinating things to 991 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,300 me about this. Team right now is if you're 992 00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:29,300 watching the videos that the team puts out, there's a Vibe 993 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:33,100 like, personality-wise about this team that just feels so 994 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,500 much, Freer and looser. Yeah. 995 00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:40,300 And yet more focused than what we've seen in a long time and I 996 00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:43,000 think Mike, Woodson deserves a tremendous amount of credit for 997 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,300 that. His, you know, it what he's 998 00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:49,600 done, the atmosphere that he's created thus far with this team 999 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,800 and we saw some of this at the end of last year. 1000 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,800 I don't think it's fully shined through because there was all of 1001 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,600 this emotional and psychological pressure about getting back into 1002 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,600 the NCAA tournament. And this year's team acts like, 1003 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,500 that's not even an issue. Like this year's team is they 1004 00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:05,100 seem to get along well with each other. 1005 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,700 They seem really fired up when they're doing. 1006 00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:10,400 Well, you know, they released a video with the players like 1007 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,700 essentially kind of making fun of the way Mike, Woodson talks 1008 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,100 and a good-natured banter. It's like, what could you 1009 00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:19,200 imagine either Archie Miller or Tom crean allowing that to 1010 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,300 happen? I'll give I'll give credit to my 1011 00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,200 Of my friend Mark Katie for bringing that up. 1012 00:50:23,207 --> 00:50:27,500 And it's true. It's like the, the, the level of 1013 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:32,500 camaraderie and yet Focus that I sense out of watching this, I 1014 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,800 you team. And the way that they approach 1015 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,700 things, this is the sign of a team that has been not just well 1016 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:42,600 constructed from a personality perspective but has been given 1017 00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:47,400 an atmosphere of. Okay, we can have fun and we 1018 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,500 also have to be successful. There are expectations that are 1019 00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:52,400 placed upon you. You and you need to carry 1020 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,400 through with those things. And, you know, this isn't to 1021 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,300 denigrate either of the prior coaches that Indiana's had, but 1022 00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:03,500 I just, it's been so long since it felt okay to have fun 1023 00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,400 watching, Indiana, basketball and where the players seemed 1024 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,200 like they had a license to have fun playing Indiana basketball, 1025 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,900 that I don't think Mike, Woodson has gotten enough credit 1026 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,000 publicly for being able to instill that in such a short 1027 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,500 period of time. I mean, the guy is on the, the 1028 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:23,500 eighth game on Saturday of his second year here and do to turn 1029 00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:26,100 it around that quickly. With the basically the same cast 1030 00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:29,800 of characters is a tremendous accomplishment thus far. 1031 00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:35,800 So well taken I agree. I love watching the bench during 1032 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,800 again but it's just it is true. Like under the arch you are the 1033 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,800 bench was kind of like. All right, we gotta get up and 1034 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,500 clap like this bench gets fired up. 1035 00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:44,900 I know it's given tomorrow. Bates, crap, Road like he, he's 1036 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,200 great on the bed, he's so fired up. 1037 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,900 I love it. There was a moment in the game 1038 00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:52,600 where Trace Jax I think happened twice but Trace Jackson Davis, 1039 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,800 got his second foul in the first half and like literally like 1040 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,000 looked at Wooster was like nah, I'm good. 1041 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,600 Like thumbs-up, like I'm staying in and it wasn't just like kind 1042 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,500 of smile. And like I was like, all right, 1043 00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,800 Shimano get it. And it's like, but it's he's a 1044 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,400 pro coach. Now, he's treating this like it 1045 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,400 looked like when I watch the Pacers. 1046 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,500 Like, there's that understanding like yeah, man. 1047 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,700 No, you're coming out but we don't make a big thing of it, 1048 00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:14,700 but it's like Trace felt comfortable kind of be like, no, 1049 00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:15,800 no, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. 1050 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,900 And maybe at the end of the year, he's gonna give him the 1051 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:20,900 chance to be good. But I think what's also realize 1052 00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:23,600 like no, you're not good because I trust you, I don't trust these 1053 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,200 rafts but like it's just the way they interact the way you are. 1054 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,000 So right. And It, you talk about it in 1055 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,500 football, you know how, like we need to have somebody with 1056 00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:37,500 experience taking the reins. There is something here with 1057 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:40,800 like this is a guy who is coached professionally coached 1058 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,300 professional athletes. Not saying all pro coach is 1059 00:52:43,308 --> 00:52:46,300 going to be great in college, but it definitely is working 1060 00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,300 here. I think it works with this team 1061 00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:51,100 and especially guys like Xavier Johnson, like I think Xavier 1062 00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:53,300 Johnson, I'll just end with this. 1063 00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:56,300 He's so good. But I think he could be very 1064 00:52:56,300 --> 00:53:00,400 tough to coach and I'm not sure a guy like Archie Miller or Tom 1065 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,000 crean guys to had a little bit of, you know, they seem to not 1066 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,400 be comfortable their own skin or having a player kind of talk to 1067 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,100 them or act like that. Like, Arch Xavier could be a 1068 00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,500 tough guy to coaches, always say, I think Woodson is whole 1069 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,600 held handling him, perfectly allowing him to do. 1070 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,900 What he does, have those little moments and it just, it reminds 1071 00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:23,400 me very much of NBA coaches because the guy's a pro coach, 1072 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,300 these treating him like an adult. 1073 00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:29,400 If you don't see the difference in Xavier Johnson's on-court 1074 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,400 demeanor, And attitude between last year and this year, then 1075 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,800 you're not watching closely enough. 1076 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,300 It is a, it is a sizable difference in the way that he 1077 00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,200 approaches. I mean, he's had a couple of 1078 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,000 instances and we saw it in the Xavier game, where he's gone off 1079 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,300 the handle, but that North Carolina game, he was he was 1080 00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:53,500 aggressive, but he he was a not the same type of player that we 1081 00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:56,400 saw in some of the games last year and for the better, the 1082 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,800 last thing I'll say and last thing I'll say about that, 1083 00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,800 Matter where he plays professionally. 1084 00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:05,300 It's like he has Mike Woodson to thank because I know matter, 1085 00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:08,100 he's gonna play a level above whether it's g-league or Spain 1086 00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,200 or even some MBA time. It's because of what exactly 1087 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,800 what you said. What's it has done the last year 1088 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,900 to because last year? Xavier is like, man. 1089 00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:16,700 He's good. But he's raw, and it's like now 1090 00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:19,700 there's times I watch them like, he could play in the NBA, let 1091 00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:21,900 me, he's not going to have a 30-year career in the NBA, but 1092 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,200 he could get some g-league time. He could place him in the eighth 1093 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,400 time. He's gonna have a long, 1094 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,400 professional career. And I'm not sure I would have 1095 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,500 said that last year. Yeah, I know the last thing. 1096 00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:33,300 I'll say real, Is, I haven't seen a lot of complaints about 1097 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:34,900 Mike. Woodson substitution patterns 1098 00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:36,800 thus far this year compared to last year. 1099 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,900 Maybe he just needed better. Subs will talk about that more 1100 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,000 when we talk next. But we'll, we'll take a break 1101 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,500 now and we'll finish things off. Anyway, Scott is always a great 1102 00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:50,300 pleasure to and a privilege to talk with you about IU 1103 00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:54,600 basketball, be sure to tune in to the assembly call, as they 1104 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,200 will be giving you a recap of what goes on in that Rutgers 1105 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,400 game as well as the Nebraska game. 1106 00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,600 We don't talk to you before then. 1107 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,100 Good luck to IU men's soccer as they travel to UNC Greensboro 1108 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,600 for a berth, in the college cup for Scott, I'm Galen this has 1109 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,300 been Crimson cast, bring back the Bison so long, everybody. 1110 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,100 Good luck to IU men's soccer as they travel to UNC Greensboro 1111 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,600 for a berth, in the college cup for Scott, I'm Galen this has 1112 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,300 been Crimson cast, bring back the Bison so long, everybody.