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You're listening to the back 
home network, presented by home 

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welcome back to Crimson Cask ale

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and Claudia, Scott Caulfield 
joining you. 

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It is Saturday, March 11th and 
Indiana has won a big Ten 

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Tournament game and knock off 
the Maryland. 

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Terrapins last night in what was
a pretty impressive game all the

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way around for Indiana? 
Were we're going to talk about 

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that? 
We're going to talk about the 

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Bracketology implications if 
there are any and look ahead to 

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this afternoon's, opponent as 
Indiana going to be taken on the

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Penn State Nittany. 
Lions, Scott, good to see you on

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an early Saturday morning. 
How we doing? 

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We're in the thick of it, man, 
we're going. 

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Hey, it's pretty wild. 
You know, there's such a heavy 

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air that hangs over Indiana in 
the Big Ten Tournament. 

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If you're an IU fan, you've been
hurt many times by performances 

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and so you know, it's like well 
let's Savor this because this is

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nice, as is Indiana, really did.
After a little bit of a struggle

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in the first half, put their 
stamp on the game and never 

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really wandered away from it 
before we get to that. 

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He was like sorry, go ahead. 
Yes. 

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Funny when like Robbie Hummel or
the announcers were like man. 

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Indiana 0 and 3 is a 3, seen it.
Like, I know like we are aware 

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like it in like they show like 
the highlights of like, you 

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know, Great Big Ten tournament 
games like of the past, and it's

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like, 90% of more shots against 
Indiana. 

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Like, I don't know what the 
stats are. 

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But the number of buzzer beaters
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Indiana have been astronomically
high. 

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It's, it's an interesting, 
there's a lot of, you know, if 

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you're if you're a superstitious
person, there's a lot of 

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material to work with when it 
comes to Ayub. 

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Queen bob Knight being such a 
vocal opponent of the Big Ten 

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tournament. 
It's like, you know, did that 

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curse. 
Everything is is it like, you 

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know, when with a whole thing 
with South Carolina and climbs 

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in where, you know, South 
Carolina tries to keep plums in 

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from being formed as a 
university and what they like, 

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buried a like a chicken or 
chicken bone on the South 

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Carolina campus and that like 
curse their football program or 

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the fact that, you know, the 
Mike Davis is the winningest Big

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Ten Tournament coach in Indiana 
is History essentially least in 

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terms of like, how far he's 
gotten there. 

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So there's all these weird kind 
of, you know, Mojo sorts of 

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things going on with IU in the 
Big Ten tournament and it really

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is honestly some what a surprise
when they go out and win a game.

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And yet Mike Woodson, I think I 
saw the stat yesterday now has 

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like 20 percent of all of 
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victories. 
And so for two years, it's wild 

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anyway before we dive completely
into it, a reminder that three 

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wins. 
Yes, like it's true. 

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Twins. 
Yes, that's it. 

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And two semifinal appearances. 
Now, yeah. 

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Which again only Mike Davis. 
Got Indiana. 

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That far consistently. 
So, anyway, for the third time, 

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it's time I got I was not up in 

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Chicago last night, but I was 
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home-field apparel all over the 
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I saw some home field apparel 
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Not just from Indiana fans, but 
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the Big Ten Tournament, it was 
it was great to see and the guys

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keep and gals at home field. 
Keep releasing all kinds of cool

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The IU bomber jacket which was 

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Everybody's wearing it here at 
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They've got basically almost 
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I think from the Big Ten first 
and foremost Scott, what we have

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to mention, is both Maryland 
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And I you players coming out and
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felt like a home game for 
Indiana and you know you and I 

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have talked about this a little 
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I you despite having a mediocre 
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20 years I mean really it is it 
is not been a top level program.

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I think everybody's aware of 
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travel amazingly. 
Well we saw this out in Vegas. 

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We saw it at Kansas. 
We see I see Xavier. 

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There were people there and one 
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has been, you know, for a fan 
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Indiana's does, it feels like 
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reward for showing up and it 
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first half as Maryland kind of 
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on and was making problems for 
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But when I you really started to
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could hear them on television. 
You can see like this, the Sea 

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of red popping up that That 
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the kind of stuck the dagger in 
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And you see the entire one side 
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mean it's no surprise for those 
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I mean we've always known 
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Ten team, you know, but it but 
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I, you fans show up and and show
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Thomas, and to be that vocal. 
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Build a, even away from home, I 
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It was really cool to see and 
I'm just excited. 

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I'll take credit for that, cuz I
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Thang, you know, I'll take 
credit. 

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You're going to take credit for 
it. 

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Ok, I'm gonna take, ya has 
nothing. 

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Do with historical basketball, 
successor fans going know, I 

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felt like, I think I mentioned 
on a pod that, you know, based 

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on where fan bases are located 
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this year. 
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could be a very Pro Indiana 
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see that the right now even 
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So the rest of the women produce
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well and they probably are This 
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which we probably should do. 
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underrated fact, that how well 
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Vegas was eye-opening to me 
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like, all right. 
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like, Arizona. 
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historically last 20 years been 
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It was like 70%, Indiana fans. 
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went to the, I went to the Gator
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like that's like it's Tennessee,
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facsimile of us. 
US in basketball and football, I

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gots a football power and that 
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60, or 40 percent, Indiana fans,
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should have been against a team 
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So, Indiana fans travel 
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why I look at, you know, and 
then let's get back to this 

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game. 
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It's like if we can just get, 
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but it's like, if you play 
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rough, but I look at the way the
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Like we have some real 
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know, great home games for teams
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And I think you're going to see 
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you know as this tournament 
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got two more games up in 
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Yeah, you know, and we start 
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And again, this is a game that 
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eerily similar in a lot of ways 
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bit and I say that from this 
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first game, Nobody remembers the
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remember the flow of it. 
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took a they were up 24 to 20 but
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22:15 to the about nine and a 
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half and from there Marilyn went
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seized control of the game they 
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from being down 72 up eight in, 
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minutes and Indiana like they 
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beginning of the second half, 
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Get over the hump and Maryland, 

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I think would be the best way of
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This game started off in a 
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Again, Indiana was up 22 to 15 
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minutes to go and then Marilyn 
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Actually, I'm looking at the 
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right Shard up. 
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They were, I'm sorry, they were 
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Maryland go on an 11-0 run and 
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digits and it's just kind of 
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go off the rails and it really 
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of the halftime. 
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they reassert it, they get up 
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Indiana went on a 22 to run and 
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He had no by no means a perfect 
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differentiation between his 
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in College Park, and the game 
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Was sizable Hood, Cioppino ended
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8 for 15 from the floor. 
All around had two assists had 

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six rebounds and you know those 
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And what you and I had talked 
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who else is going to show up for
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And on this night it was Tamar 
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comes off the bench. 
You know he had Of turnovers, 

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but he ends up with eight points
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Rebounds had some really key 
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interspersed throughout 
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Bates played pretty solid, quiet
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then, you know, hit a couple of 
big shots in the second half and

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that ended up being something 
Indiana really needed because, 

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Trey Galloway had another kind 
of off game where he, he didn't 

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really score much had more, you 
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struggled to get into the flow 
of things was Off like on the 

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bench for a while for reasons 
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look, they didn't get a gate 
great game at a race Thompson, 

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but they got a good game out of 
Miller cop and watching this 

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team kind of settle itself back 
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area reassert itself on defense 
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their offense. 
That's essentially the pattern 

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we've talked about this team 
needing to have essentially for 

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the entire second half of the 
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Yeah. 
I saw it a little bit 

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differently in that, you know. 
Defense, in my mind was was kind

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of the same throughout. 
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scoring, you know, it's pretty 
you know, they had basically 34 

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points in the first half and 
then, you know, 26 in the 

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second. 
You know, that it was it was a 

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fair break down when you look at
like they're scoring on a Ken 

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Palm chart. 
You know, they had lulls like, 

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you know five minutes to go in 
the first half they had 30 

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They go to halftime at 34, you 

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know, we were holding them to 
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stretches. 
They're only getting two or four

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time that they weren't scoring 
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when they're not scoring. 
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that this, you know I feel like 
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times, you know, hopefully five 
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time the rest of these games 
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shoot 40 percent from three but 
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I'd love to see us. 
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that just isn't going to happen.
So we need to know even on the 

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Broadcast think humble was like 
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It's like this team should 
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threes like it. 
Yes, you know, but it's just not

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It's not and look as much as 

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it's frustrating and it becomes 
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I mean Indiana has won a lot of 
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many threes. 
I mean, well, but I think people

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forget this, and I think it's 
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they beat Wisconsin at home, 
they hit 13 in the whole game. 

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The only took eight, they beat 
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I'm from three, they hit four 
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They hit four threes at home 
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They had five against Rutgers, 
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road against Michigan and so on 
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Like they just haven't made 
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winning strategy. 
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know, the the exception games 
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game at home but, you know, it's
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Iowa, the lost at home versus 
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They did take and make a lot of 
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ended up still losing. 
So it's it's just not something 

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that Indiana does. 
And I think it's frustrating. 

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It doesn't feel like it's going 
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But then in a game like this 
when Indiana gets control of the

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game and they're really able to 
dominate the post. 

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It it's almost it's weird 
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likely to score two twos in a 
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Then hit a three on every other 
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And Ultimately, you know, you 
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about two-thirds of the way 
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Maryland was shooting 47% from 
three but they were shooting 30%

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from to and Indiana was 
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and fifty, four percent from 
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And that by that point, Indiana 
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So I'm with you and I don't like
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I know a lot of people don't 
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it's working so it's like, I 
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Well, I'll just say it is what 
it is that the other takeaway 

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that I take from this game is, 
you know, with let me pull it up

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again. 
You know, with like five minutes

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to go, it's 5950, you know, 
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over but yet Indiana did a great
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that's something that quietly. 
They've done a really good job 

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of this year when you think back
to you know the home win at 

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Michigan the you know Road win 
at Purdue that they that was 

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still a baby. 
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You know, the home win against 
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Michigan. 
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and Rutgers is a lot of games 
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Whereas quote, really are in a 
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we're probably going to win. 
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games against Northwestern. 
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Northwestern, it's like it's 
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A buoy foul and a cannon shot, 
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And then the game at Iowa were 
like we were in the midst of a 

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complete system, failure of the 
entire second half but ever and 

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that was you know too. 
A half months ago. 

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Every other game that we played 
that's close. 

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We find a way to call on win and
that's something that I think as

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you know, it's we haven't seen 
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we're kind of like, as long as 
we're not down 15 at halftime or

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15 in the second half, this team
has shown as I think you can 

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start to feel comfortable that 
they can claw and get back to a 

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spot where were there within 
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Or they're up by a little bit, 
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Make winning plays in the last 
five minutes and what's funny is

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how Locked in people get in 
those last five minutes like 

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race Thompson, turned into an 
All-American, at the end of the 

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Michigan game. 
You know, we needed tomorrow 

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Bates to play great at the end 
of Michigan game and he did and 

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tonight, see, you know, last 
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kind of did exactly what they 
needed to do. 

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And so I'm, I'm impressed and 
feel good that, you know, 

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normally a lot of these games, 
as you get deeper into these 

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tournaments are normally 
relatively close. 

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Like you're probably just not 
going to get your doors blown 

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off in a neutral site. 
And Indiana has shown that. 

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If the game is close, they have 
the mental fortitude and the 

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understanding, and the will to 
kind of close these things out 

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and put teams away. 
Yeah, I mean, they did last 

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night, the, this was a 
concerning game at the beginning

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because it felt like Indiana's 
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being exposed which was when 
they're not fully committed to 

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rebounding the opposition just 
yeah pulls a crapload of 

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rebounds down. 
There was a point where in 

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Maryland and eight or nine 
offensive boards and It is look 

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like an effort thing, like 
Maryland just look like they 

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wanted the game more. 
But, you know, one of the really

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fascinating things about the 
game was how that changed as it 

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went by. 
Now, some of that was foul 

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trouble. 
Julian Reese gets into foul 

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trouble. 
You know, they started like 

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Maryland was there wasn't 
getting a lot of fouls called on

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them, but they were getting like
fouls called on the wrong 

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people. 
But also, you know, Indiana 

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really did assert themselves on 
the board, you know, and they 

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started dropping Hood schiaffino
into the post more to try to 

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grab rebounds. 
We've talked a lot on this 

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podcast about how Indiana has 
kind of abandoned the offensive 

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rebound as a part of their 
offense. 

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And that's a dangerous game 
because it means you're really 

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relying on the effectiveness of 
your shooting alone. 

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Well, Indiana grabbed their 
offensive rebounding. 

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Percentage was 30.8% which was 
the highest since the home game 

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against Illinois. 
And really, you know, since the 

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Rutgers game was one of only two
games where they've been above, 

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like 22% offensive, rebounding, 
and You know 30% about where 

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you'd like to be and that was 
nice to see. 

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The other thing I thought was 
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Indiana's ability to essentially
make it hard for Maryland to hit

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shots and you know as much as 
Maryland look like they were 

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going to get whatever they 
wanted early on in the 

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proceedings. 
It really became progressively 

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harder for Maryland to do what 
they wanted to do and that, you 

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know, ends up with the situation
where you know, you look at the 

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box score for me. 
Maryland. 

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And, you know, heart had a 
pretty good game offensively 

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finished with 16 points. 
Don Kerry had a pretty good 

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game, but almost all of that was
early threes and then he kind of

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disappeared as the game went on 
and everybody else was under one

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point per possession. 
I mean Jamir, young had a really

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poor game was 2410 from to was 
145 from three, you know? 

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It was it was just interesting 
to watch because I, you can at 

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times make it difficult for the 
opposition to score, but You 

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know, for them to do it, to this
Maryland, team who had been 

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playing really well, and I 
thought, you know, pretty 

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consistently across the board. 
We talked about that on the 

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podcast yesterday, where they 
really hadn't outside of that. 

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Ohio State game, hadn't really 
had any bad games in about a 

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month and a half. 
This was probably the best 

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defensive effort against a 
Maryland team in the in a half 

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segment that I've seen out of a 
team in the Big Ten so far, you 

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and I both were in Bob, Knight's
class defense travels. 

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But that is, that is the nice 
thing. 

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Here is defense is going to 
travel. 

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I one of the things that we've 
talked about before that you saw

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in full display last night, but 
it really, it's such a nice 

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addition to this year's team. 
Enjoy it while it lasts and it 

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really does add a nice wrinkle. 
But the ability for Trace 

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Jackson Davis to bring the ball 
up and initiate the offense is 

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it really does just it, it adds 
an entire wrinkle that very few 

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teams in the country have. 
And again, Indiana podcast were 

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biased, but it's like this is 
again, something that like Zach 

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eat, he's not able to do. 
I've never seen Zack ET bring. 

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The ball up like that pass. 
I am, obviously, the Highlight 

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pass were traces in the air at 
half court and you bullets a 

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perfect pass to Miller cop for a
layup. 

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That was fantastic. 
But multiple times, he just 

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takes the ball rebounds it and 
just drives it down and then 

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sometimes, you know a couple 
times he brought it down and 

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then just bat got his guy at you
know the foul line and is backed

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him down and it's like he's 
initiated the entire offense and

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it changes the way that you have
to go about hold on. 

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Simba, yeah, everything. 
Okay, there Scott. 

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Um, sorry, we're background came
in, we're back. 

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Yes. 
Yeah, wanted cinnamon toast as 

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well as do. 
I can you make me some? 

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After you make him some, I can 
send you some. 

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I will say that I hit him in the
face. 

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I didn't mean to, but as you 
know, Mobsters a key that no, 

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no, no foul called on me. 
Nothing called no, no. 

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But his it. 
Village traces ability to come 

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down initiate, the offense like 
it. 

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Allows Jalen Hood Ruffino to 
play off the ball, like cochinos

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able to place them to even 
though he's still playing the 

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one, it allows them to do some 
pick-and-roll. 

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We're basically Trace, you know,
hits it just it adds a whole 

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other layer to the offense and 
but you saw it in display last 

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night in the second half, where 
a couple times, it almost look 

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like Marilyn wasn't quite sure 
what to do and Trace brought the

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ball down, their effectiveness 
to pass it off at half court and

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that he just starts like backing
as do down. 

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So it's just it's again, another
example of how Another piece 

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traces added to his game, but 
how it really, really helps our 

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offense, which it's, you know, 
it's easy to be like, oh, 

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there's dump the ball in the 
trace and get a bunch of two's. 

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It's like, this is a really 
pretty unique and dynamic 

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offense even though it does a 
lot. 

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It on paper does a lot of the 
same things. 

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Yeah, so Indiana picks up the 
Victory. 

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And as we mentioned, they get to
the semi-finals of the Big Ten 

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tournament. 
This is a bracket that is blown 

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up her that yes, a will Savor 
that by itself. 

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But, you know, this bracket is 
blown up as Indiana one. 

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Of to higher seeds, that's 
avoided getting upset. 

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So far in this tournament, 
Purdue survives, a scare versus 

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Rutgers. 
They Advanced to the 

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semi-finals. 
And then, of course, as 

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everybody had in their bracket, 
Ohio state has won three games 

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in three days, they knock off 
Michigan State yesterday. 

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Despite not having Bryce 
sensible, and they're going to 

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play against Purdue in one of 
the semi-finals. 

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That'll be the noon or 1:00 game
I guess today, I'm just gonna 

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jump in here. 
Me and my wife and my oldest we 

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all did a For the Big Ten 
Tournament to get ready for the 

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NCAA. 
Just kind of for fun. 

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I have one, right? 
It is not been. 

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And I remember thinking like, 
this is stupid. 

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We're all going to have the 
same. 

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They're all gonna have the same 
right numbers. 

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Like this is pretty easy and 
pretty silly. 

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It's like no well, no, it's not 
say and this it's interesting, 

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we did me with two. 
He has to I have one. 

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I feel like an idiot, so I can't
it. 

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And I was I was fully prepared 
to go a different direction with

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this narrative. 
If Indiana had lost yesterday 

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but since Indiana Anna one. 
Is it possible? 

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Indiana. 
And Purdue of the only, actually

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good teams in the conference 
because ultimately, you can look

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at Ohio State, making it to the 
semi-finals and knocking off the

444
00:23:05,308 --> 00:23:06,500
teams. 
They've knocked off, you can 

445
00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:08,700
look at Illinois, losing to Penn
State. 

446
00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:12,500
Northwestern, who was the the 
alleged to seed losing to Penn 

447
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:15,400
State, you can, you know, you 
can look at Nebraska who was 

448
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,100
supposedly this really hot team,
they lose to Minnesota. 

449
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,300
And then, you know, Minnesota, 
gives Maryland, a little bit of 

450
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:25,900
a game. 
It's it's just On the one hand, 

451
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,700
you can say ooh the parity on 
the other hand you could say wow

452
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:33,000
most of the conference actually 
had to play at home in order to 

453
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,400
actually be good. 
And the only teams that survived

454
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,500
were an Ohio State team that's 
underachieved all year and is 

455
00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:43,600
like, people forget that Ohio 
State team is stacked, like, in 

456
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,600
terms of talent like they got a 
lot of Talent on that team. 

457
00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:48,200
They just haven't played very 
well this year. 

458
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,800
And then a Penn State team that 
plays such a peculiar style of 

459
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,700
basketball that, you know, it 
feels like it would. 

460
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,100
They were specifically, tailor 
made to beat the two teams that 

461
00:23:57,100 --> 00:24:00,900
they beat so far. 
And is certainly maybe three? 

462
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,000
Well, that's the thing. 
Well, so, you know, it's funny 

463
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,300
because a lot of people I was 
talking with last night, we're 

464
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:06,800
debating. 
Like, who do you want? 

465
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800
If Indiana beats, Maryland, do 
you want Northwestern or Penn 

466
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,000
State? 
And everybody was like oh I'd 

467
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,300
rather Northwestern. 
Yeah. 

468
00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,700
See I would much rather have 
Penn State because I feel like, 

469
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,500
you know, the Chicago's Penn 
State's well National TV it's 

470
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,200
it's more this like is it's 
possible that Indiana could As 

471
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,900
badly as they played in State 
College. 

472
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,800
A second time, I just feel like 
it might be a little bit less 

473
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,600
likely as that Indiana team, you
know, as I think everybody 

474
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,700
recalls Jordan Geronimo started 
that game played 23 minutes, you

475
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:42,700
know, there was no race Thompson
available. 

476
00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:46,300
There was no Xavier Johnson 
available Trace Jackson, Davis 

477
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:50,600
had maybe his worst game. 
One of his two worst games of 

478
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,200
the year in that one where he 
only went 4 for 10 from the 

479
00:24:53,208 --> 00:24:56,200
field here. 
He struggled in a lot of areas 

480
00:24:56,700 --> 00:25:02,300
and peanut Penn State in that 
game shot 58 percent from three 

481
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,200
which that's that's hard to 
replicate anywhere. 

482
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,400
Let alone on a neutral floor. 
Now, you know, could I eat my 

483
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,800
words on all of this? 
I guess. 

484
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,400
But I just, I look at this Penn 
State team and, and then I look 

485
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,800
at Northwestern and I'm like, I 
feel like what Northwestern does

486
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:21,800
tends to travel a bit better 
than what Penn State does. 

487
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,600
Now, you know, in the two games 
that Penn State's one so far, 

488
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,800
Are they beat? 
Illinois. 79763 point when they 

489
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,800
beat Northwestern 67-65 had to 
go to overtime. 

490
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,700
Northwestern had a three that 
bounced off the rim, that could 

491
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,300
have won the game. 
This has not been a dominant run

492
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:42,000
thus far by this Penn State team
and they haven't shot the three 

493
00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,900
as well as they shot the three 
against Indiana that, you know, 

494
00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:47,900
they hits eight threes against 
Illinois, they hit seven threes.

495
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:50,600
They again, we're not going to 
replicate 58%. 

496
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,600
Well, that's my that's my point 
is that, you know, the the game 

497
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:59,600
Indiana in the Big Ten was by 
far, the game, where Penn State 

498
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600
hit the most three-pointers. 
They had 18 in that game. 

499
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,300
The only other game that they 
hit 18 at all. 

500
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:06,400
This season was their opener 
against Winthrop. 

501
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,500
So, you know, to some degree 
that game is a bit of a 

502
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:12,300
statistical Oddity, and I also 
think Penn State's got a real 

503
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,300
likelihood to be a bit tired 
coming into this contest. 

504
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:20,800
So as I think about this matchup
right now, a couple of things 

505
00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:26,100
are I think key first is like, 
what in the Really does well and

506
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,500
in print and state doesn't do 
particularly well. 

507
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Indiana scores at a pretty high 
rate and India and Penn State 

508
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,100
has trouble defending. 
You look at Penn State's overall

509
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:39,500
metrics their 113th and 
defensive efficiency, they are 

510
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,600
14th or 16th and offensive 
efficiency. 

511
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,700
So they certainly know how to 
score but the way that they do 

512
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,600
it is I think something that 
Indiana can counter if they are 

513
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,800
locked in defensively and if you
go back and watch that first 

514
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,600
game, they really just were not 
locked. 

515
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,300
In defensively in that game at 
all. 

516
00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:58,300
I mean they were losing people 
left and right. 

517
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
I just feel like both of these 
teams have changed a lot over 

518
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,700
the course of the last month and
a half Penn State. 

519
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:08,400
At this point has played their 
way into the field but I think 

520
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,400
Indiana is looking at this and 
saying we are capable of beating

521
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,700
this team. 
What you saw in January was not 

522
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:18,800
representative of what we are 
today as giggling. 

523
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,100
This is not on you but just it 
is funny like the you're saying 

524
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,300
that they can your Penn State 
could be tired, which is true 

525
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,100
but like Flip side. 
It's like you're also worried 

526
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,300
because Marilyn had played a 
game so they're like warmed up. 

527
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:30,000
So it's like true no matter 
what. 

528
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:37,100
But, um, no II agree with you, I
think I'm not trying to wash 

529
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:41,500
away that loss, but it did feel 
like the Confluence of events 

530
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:44,200
for that. 
Penn State game are unlikely to 

531
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,400
happen again, where that was an 
Indiana team that was at the 

532
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000
lowest point of confidence. 
It had all season, maybe the 

533
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,200
most injury issues that had all 
season, you had Trace kind of 

534
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:58,400
fighting off whatever he had. 
He had at that point in the 

535
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,400
season, you had jail, huh? 
Chafee know just coming back 

536
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,500
from a backer injury. 
You had already lost a race. 

537
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,300
Think you had already lost 
Xavier. 

538
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,600
I mean, you were like you were 
down as much as you could 

539
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,700
physically, and then that was a 
team that was mentally really 

540
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:15,500
shaken and that was kind of the 
final blow and then you had a 

541
00:28:15,508 --> 00:28:19,200
Penn State team that just shot 
out of their mind and then 

542
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,400
that's one way to look at that. 
You also look at this Penn State

543
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,000
team. 
A lot of the things that you 

544
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,200
know, we don't do well, they 
don't do well. 

545
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,500
He like they are one of the 
worst offensive rebounding teams

546
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,900
in the country. 
Think they're the worst actually

547
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,900
I think 363, it's so hard. 
I can't. 

548
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,900
I can't quite read it because 
it's so rare that it can bomb. 

549
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:39,600
You know, they are. 
There they are the worst. 

550
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,900
There are only three hundred 
sixty three Division, 1 teams. 

551
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,300
They are dead last in offensive 
rebounding and they're dead last

552
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:46,500
in getting to the free-throw 
line. 

553
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:48,500
Yeah. 
And then when they get there 

554
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:50,300
they're one of the worst 
free-throw through shooting 

555
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,400
teams as well. 
They don't they turn the ball 

556
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,100
over or that they don't create a
lot of turnovers like it. 

557
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,500
It does feel like that matchup 
was a lot of things were going 

558
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:03,200
wrong for Indiana. 
A lot of things went right for 

559
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,600
Penn State and so in that 
respect I do, I do feel good 

560
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,000
about it and, you know, I think 
this team plays well with 

561
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,300
confidence, they play. 
Well, you know, I feel good 

562
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:17,100
about this game, I would have 
rather played Northwestern. 

563
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,400
I kind of like would have liked 
to have gotten that monkey off 

564
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,900
our back. 
But you know, as you've pointed 

565
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:25,100
out before they go on Twitter 
and on here that you know, the 

566
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,600
fallacy of like it's really hard
to beat a team three times. 

567
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,400
It's like it's actually not 
true. 

568
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,200
It's like normally when you beat
somebody twice, you beat him a 

569
00:29:30,208 --> 00:29:32,300
third time because you're the 
better team or you have some 

570
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,400
kind of competitive advantage. 
And we'll see that when if 

571
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Indiana plays Purdue tomorrow. 
But no, I think this is a it's 

572
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,600
it's a good matchup and it does 
feel like this might be more 

573
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,800
kind of water meeting is level 
on both sides where you know, 

574
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,000
Penn State may not have the game
that they had. 

575
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,500
And, you know, we have the game 
and I will again say to the 

576
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:58,600
difference here, is you talk 
about difference in growth, you 

577
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,700
know, Trace Jackson Davis looks 
fully healthy, he didn't look 

578
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,900
healthy and that game at Penn 
State, but The growth that 

579
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,800
you've seen of Jalen Hood, shh, 
pheno in just the last two and a

580
00:30:07,808 --> 00:30:10,600
half months and again, something
you say a lot, it's like this is

581
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,000
something that I you fans are 
not used to seeing, you know, or

582
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000
dealing with is just the we're 
kind of used to that, you know, 

583
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Oladipo like sophomore to junior
year, like, oh, I haven't seen 

584
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,100
him since March. 
And now, in October, he's a 

585
00:30:23,108 --> 00:30:25,500
total different player like 
watching Hood Shafi. 

586
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,900
No last night. 
It's like, he is so calm. 

587
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,500
So collected. 
So, like, I'm just going to take

588
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:32,700
two dribbles, low back dribble. 
I'm just gonna get a mid-range, 

589
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:36,200
like, he is Is not the same 
player that he was in January, 

590
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,900
it is just night and day. 
And that is a huge difference 

591
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,200
that he just, this was not the 
player who went to Nittany 

592
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Valley, or Happy Valley Nittany,
Lions. 

593
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,500
Happy Valley in January. 
And that's the, oh, he's now our

594
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,900
second best player and at times 
our most important player, and 

595
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,900
he is a vastly different player 
than he was two, and a half 

596
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,700
months ago. 
And I think that's, that's the 

597
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:57,000
difference. 
I think an important thing to 

598
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,300
keep in mind, we talked about 
this a little bit yesterday with

599
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:03,000
him, about how he hadn't had two
good games really back-to-back. 

600
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,400
Well, he's had, he just had two 
games back to back there. 

601
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,100
Pretty good. 
The game at home against 

602
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,400
Michigan and in his first game 
against Maryland in the 

603
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,100
tournament. 
His, you know what I love about 

604
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,400
him, is, there was a five-game, 
stretch there, where his usage 

605
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600
rate was over 27, and that's 
pretty high. 

606
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:23,900
For a, you know, freshman point 
guard who's, you know, you would

607
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:27,600
prefer not to have him have to 
do that much, but he did and, 

608
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,600
you know, Indiana was three, and
two in that stretch he's backed 

609
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,800
off a little bit as he's been 
able to get the ball. 

610
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,100
More consistently to trace 
Jackson, Davis or two other 

611
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:42,000
teammates, but yeah, I mean, he 
has blossomed in a way that you 

612
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800
just don't see that often among 
freshmen and Indiana. 

613
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,300
And I think that ultimately, as,
you know, the big question I had

614
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:53,400
was, how is he going to react 
being in that moment and how he 

615
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,000
reacted was, I want to go 
demonstrate everything that I 

616
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600
can do. 
And again, it wasn't a perfect 

617
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,300
game but it was a darn good 
game. 

618
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,600
I mean, 7411 for mid-range. 
Range that Dagger of a 

619
00:32:05,608 --> 00:32:08,800
three-pointer at the end of the 
game that just really put it 

620
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Beyond any reasonable doubt. 
And again his work on the board.

621
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Yeah you meant to threes like we
don't shoot a lot of them but we

622
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,900
do have the and I think this is 
the way they offense is 

623
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:20,200
designed. 
Like when we hit threes they are

624
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,000
big. 
Yeah. 

625
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,900
Like we hit them at the right 
times. 

626
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Yeah, you know and look I think 
from for her Jaffe know, a lot 

627
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,800
of it really now comes down to, 
you know, with this team. 

628
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,900
He knows that he's going to have
to be A secondary offensive 

629
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:40,000
option, sometimes the primary 
offensive option and, you know, 

630
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,100
Mike Woodson is in an 
interesting spot because he has 

631
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,800
to essentially try to balance 
like you know, when can I sit 

632
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,900
General Hunter? 
Pheno down, he didn't last 

633
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:50,100
night. 
This is cute two games in a row.

634
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,500
Now, we're Hood if he knows 
played all 40 minutes because I,

635
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:56,400
you there's just nobody that can
back him up. 

636
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,700
Effectively, you can't play tray
Galloway. 

637
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,000
At the point. 
You can't play tomorrow Bates at

638
00:33:01,008 --> 00:33:04,600
the point. 
And there's times when He has to

639
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,100
play through periods. 
Retraced Jackson Davis is not on

640
00:33:07,108 --> 00:33:09,600
the floor. 
And so, you know, watching him, 

641
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:13,700
I noticed yesterday, I'd never 
really seen him shooting the 16 

642
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,300
Footers from, you know, 
basically kind of that spot 

643
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,500
between the wing and the corner.
Like he was really like normally

644
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,700
a lot of his shots are coming 
right around the elbow and here 

645
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:27,900
he was swinging way out. 
It was just interesting to watch

646
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:29,100
that. 
I don't know if that was a 

647
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:32,200
wrinkle that he just decided to 
add or if they saw something on 

648
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,400
film that they thought might be,
might be able to take Vantage 

649
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,200
of. 
But yeah, I was, I was really, 

650
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,100
really pleased with with how he 
he played overall, and I think 

651
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:46,400
ultimately he's going to have to
be essentially the same type of 

652
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,900
player every game from this 
point forward and fortunately, 

653
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:51,100
he's young, he's 18 years old or
19 years old. 

654
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:55,500
I'm assuming he can handle that.
He wants that type of of 

655
00:33:55,500 --> 00:34:00,400
pressure, but it is, it is kind 
of interesting thinking about it

656
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,200
in that his his performances in 
the way that he has Has managed 

657
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,300
to grow into his role has not 
taken away from Tres Jackson. 

658
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:14,199
Davis has ability to do the 
things that he does and in some 

659
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,900
cases it's actually augmented 
it. 

660
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,100
It's meant that race doesn't 
have to go for twenty eight and 

661
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,900
15, for Indiana to win like was 
happening at the beginning of 

662
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:24,199
the win streak. 
He's able to now kind of pick 

663
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:25,800
and choose his spots a lot 
better. 

664
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:29,199
You mentioned, you know, Jordan 
sorry. 

665
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:30,699
Jail hitch. 
If you know, having back-to-back

666
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:34,400
good games, the last time he had
two games of it, all Ends of 

667
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,199
rating of 100 or plus, so he's 
one of six against Michigan, 105

668
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,400
last night against Maryland. 
The last time he did two of 

669
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,500
those, was the loss that I were 
the loss at Northwestern. 

670
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,600
And then the game after that was
Penn State where he was under 

671
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,199
100. 
So, this is going to be a, you 

672
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,400
know, an offensive rating. 
Can Palm demon to exercise as 

673
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,699
well is going three in a row and
doing it against Penn State. 

674
00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:57,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

675
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000
It's, it's going to be 
interesting. 

676
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,300
And I think, you know, I'm just 
fascinated for this particular 

677
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,700
matchup with Penn State. 
You know, you look at what 

678
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:09,000
Indiana's going to do or what 
they need to try to do clearly, 

679
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,800
they have to try to run Penn 
State off the three-point line, 

680
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,900
as much as possible. 
And I think with, you know, when

681
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,400
you think about what Penn State 
has done over the course of this

682
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,700
season and what they're doing 
here down the stretch, they they

683
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:25,100
are finding some Secret Sauce to
win, close games. 

684
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,900
And Indiana has also, as you 
mentioned earlier with their 

685
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,000
closing, ability has 
demonstrated an ability to do 

686
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,500
that you figure in Penn State's 
last 56 games. 

687
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,200
They've they've got a 
four-point. 

688
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,800
Actually, this go back seven, 
they have a seven-point win, a 

689
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,800
four-point win! 
A three-point loss, a 

690
00:35:41,808 --> 00:35:45,500
three-point overtime, win a one 
point win a three point win and 

691
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,400
a two-point overtime win. 
This is a Penn State team that's

692
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,300
living right on the razor's 
Edge. 

693
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,400
And you know, it's the seems 
very simple but you know, where 

694
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,000
they've really thrived in that 
time period. 

695
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,900
And and I think we're Indiana's 
just going to have to do 

696
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,800
whatever they can to make it 
hard to do is Penn State's 

697
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,700
offense. 
Active field, goal, percentages 

698
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:08,300
have been off the charts in 
almost all of those games. 

699
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:11,300
The Northwestern game was kind 
of a, the one in the north will 

700
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:12,900
actually both Northwestern games
really. 

701
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,400
But this one, especially in the 
Big Ten Tournament were a little

702
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,000
bit of outliers in that they 
shot under 50% effective field 

703
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,700
goal percentage. 
But you know, I just think for 

704
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:27,200
Indiana the defense has to be 
what wins them this game. 

705
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,300
I think offense will come, 
there's not really an effective 

706
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,900
counter on Penn State side for 
Trace. 

707
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:37,000
Jackson Davis, there's not 
really an effective counter for 

708
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,800
the mid-range game, that Jalen 
Hurd Ruffino is demonstrated his

709
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,000
ability to have it. 
So now, it really comes down to 

710
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,000
can Indiana limit, what Penn 
State is doing offensively 

711
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,200
effectively enough, that their 
offense, can, can rule the day 

712
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,400
and I think they can, you know, 
I think this is one of those 

713
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,700
situations where if Indiana can 
get locked in defensively early 

714
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:59,500
and Penn State, misses some 
shots early. 

715
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,500
It could be a situation where 
Penn State isn't quite able to 

716
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,100
keep up it. 
Could be the opposite of Penn 

717
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:08,000
State comes out, hit some threes
early, get some momentum. 

718
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,800
That is where I'm concerned a 
little bit. 

719
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,300
It doesn't really matter for I, 
you what happens in this game, 

720
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,400
you know, there's a there's a 
tremendously outside shot of the

721
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,200
three seed, but they also could 
be a five seed. 

722
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,700
Like it's really hard to figure 
out what's going on in that area

723
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:25,200
of the bracket right now. 
So, to some degree, I think a 

724
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,200
lot of that's out of their 
hands, but I do think that this 

725
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,600
is a game that for their own 
self. 

726
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,700
Confidence would be great to see
Indiana when both, To a Big Ten 

727
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:37,700
title game but also to say yeah 
that the worst loss we had on 

728
00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:40,400
our resume essentially. 
Wasn't like it was a, it was a, 

729
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,100
it was an anachronism. 
It wasn't actually real in the 

730
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:49,000
sense of where we are today. 
So you think the, I feel like 

731
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:52,500
this lock system as a for for 
the NCAA tournament? 

732
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:56,600
You you still think that, you 
know, 5 is possible? 

733
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,300
Well yeah. 
What are you seeing in the 

734
00:37:58,308 --> 00:38:00,100
bracket around us. 
Here's okay. 

735
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:03,300
So I haven't run a bracket yet 
this morning, I'm waiting for my

736
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,400
numbers too. 
Update. 

737
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:10,900
But I'll say this like a lot of 
question marks around how the 

738
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:14,600
that eight or nine teams that 
are kind of in the 345 Ranger 

739
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,200
actually being ranked by the 
committee. 

740
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,100
You know, I feel like right now 
there's you know, you have your 

741
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,000
one seed Group which is 
basically Alabama, Kansas 

742
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,500
Houston, Purdue UCLA, Texas. 
And then you've got the next 

743
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:30,700
phase, which is basically like 
teams that are either going to 

744
00:38:30,707 --> 00:38:32,700
be twos or threes. 
That's basically, I think 

745
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,800
Gonzaga Zona Marquette and 
Baylor. 

746
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:40,500
Then from there, essentially, 
you've got Yukon Xavier 

747
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:45,500
Tennessee, Kansas State, Indiana
Virginia, Miami Creighton, San 

748
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:49,700
Diego State, Iowa State. 
I don't know what the committee 

749
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:53,800
is going to ultimately prefer 
out of that group. 

750
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,700
You've got teams like Tennessee 
and Connecticut who are 

751
00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:01,200
analytics Darlings, they rate 
very highly in the project in 

752
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,500
the Predictive Analytics, 
they've they've won good games 

753
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:09,300
but they're, they're not 
necessarily playing great. 

754
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,700
Basketball is actually really 
disappointed in what I saw to 

755
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:14,800
Tennessee yesterday and that 
loss to Mizzou, you've got teams

756
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,900
like Kansas state, which have a 
lot of wins, but then you 

757
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,500
actually start to pick their 
resume apart, and it's not that 

758
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,700
impressive because most of the 
Winds just came against other 

759
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:25,100
Big, 12 teams. 
And I think that it's clear that

760
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,300
the Big 12 gamed the net to some
degree. 

761
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:30,600
And then you've got the ACC 
teams like Virginia, you know, 

762
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,800
they beat Clemson there in the 
ACC title game. 

763
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,500
They're going to play Duke and, 
you know, they beat Duke. 

764
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,000
That's a really good win for 
them. 

765
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,300
Creighton lost Xavier's on a 
nice charge forward. 

766
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:46,000
My point in all of this is I 
don't know where Indiana 

767
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000
actually was coming into it. 
I taken the average of 

768
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,900
everything and I think they've 
been at a for. 

769
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,200
I think that it's very likely. 
They would stay at a four. 

770
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,300
But like, how does the committee
decide to handle Iowa State? 

771
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:00,700
Who has more quad, one wins than
Indiana, you know? 

772
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:03,800
And like even though they've got
they've had some personal 

773
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,200
Chanel, changes and things like 
that. 

774
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,000
They've also had a lot of 
impressive victories here 

775
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,400
lately. 
I don't know how that factors 

776
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,700
in. 
I don't know how the committee's

777
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:14,900
going to factor in, you know, 
Xavier running all the way to 

778
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:19,400
the the Big East title game. 
So that's where, if the 

779
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600
committee's looking at Indiana 
and they're thinking about them 

780
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,500
the same way they thought about 
them, when they had them as the 

781
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,600
top four seed in the reveal a 
few weeks ago it is very 

782
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,500
possible that Indiana's actually
a three. 

783
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:32,000
I don't think that's likely but 
it is possible. 

784
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,400
And if they win today Would 
further burnish their 

785
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:42,100
credentials in relation to that 
especially if you see, you know,

786
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:44,900
you know, like Virginia losses 
to Duke or something like that 

787
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,600
in the ACC title game. 
But I also don't know how much 

788
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,100
tinkering the committee's doing 
with the bracket on the 

789
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,000
one-handed like to say, they're 
not doing that much. 

790
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,500
On the other hand there was a 
quote, I read somewhere about 

791
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:59,400
how Chris Reynolds. 
Who's the head of the selection 

792
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,700
committee? 
Said here it is. 

793
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,300
This is Jason Horowitz who 
tweeted this. 

794
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:06,300
This was earlier on Friday 
committee chair. 

795
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,200
Chris Reynolds told me that six 
or seven teams are still being 

796
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,700
considered for the one seed, 
which included like Texas UCLA 

797
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:16,800
Purdue, well, if that's the case
then, they haven't set the top 

798
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,300
of the field yet and maybe they 
are waiting a little bit longer 

799
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:22,100
than normal to figure out 
exactly what order everybody 

800
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,700
plugs into. 
So the longer now, it's like the

801
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:28,900
longer Indiana stays alive, the 
more impressive their 

802
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,300
credentials are. 
And you've also got Ohio state 

803
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:33,800
who's making this big run and 
there. 

804
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:36,800
Their Nets improving suddenly 
that win Indiana had against 

805
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,400
Ohio. 
State starts to look a little 

806
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400
bit better. 
Of course, the flip side was 

807
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,600
that made the Michigan State 
when look worse, you know? 

808
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,300
So it's all a Continuum. 
I just, and I'll be transparent 

809
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:48,700
here. 
I don't know what the committee 

810
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:51,300
ultimately is thinking, and I 
don't know what they're going to

811
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,900
prefer. 
I think Indiana's probably going

812
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:56,000
to land is probably the, you 
know, the, you know, maybe the 

813
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,400
second or third for seed maybe 
the top four seed, I'd be 

814
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,800
surprised if they were three but
I don't think it's impossible at

815
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,000
this point. 
Yeah, that quote from Christmas 

816
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,900
just made me chuckle because 
it's like, what do you expect 

817
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:07,400
him to say like it Friday 
morning. 

818
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,800
He's like, oh, we're pretty well
set. 

819
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Yeah, I'm actually taking I'm 
actually taking tomorrow off. 

820
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,500
Like I'm not gonna I kind of 
want to watch them drop coverage

821
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,900
and then okay, I know, you know,
we have the bracket and we'll 

822
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:18,600
get there someday. 
I want, I guess you're right, it

823
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,300
is funny. 
But I will on the flip side, I 

824
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:24,100
will say that most of the time. 
These folks in this sort of 

825
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,100
setting, they're not going to 
like out like, oh just overtly 

826
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,100
lie about what they're thinking 
and doing because like why you 

827
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:31,800
could just feel like well we 
have a pretty good idea. 

828
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:36,200
Who the one seeds are, you know?
But we're we haven't finalized 

829
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,000
anything but the fact that they 
like specifically said, oh yeah,

830
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
six or seven teams still alive 
tells me. 

831
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,600
There's some other things open 
as well. 

832
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:47,300
Yeah, you know, as a fan of a 
team that hasn't won a Big Ten 

833
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:50,900
Tournament title, you know, I'd 
love to see the Indiana. 

834
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:53,400
Purdue Reba, I'll ask, I'll ask 
you this question. 

835
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,900
I'll answer it as I ask it. 
Who would you assuming we beat 

836
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,200
Penn State? 
Let's start assuming fun stuff. 

837
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:01,800
Who would you want to see in the
final for me? 

838
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:06,800
The triple rematch would be fun,
you know, be fun, Indiana, 

839
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,800
Purdue going for it. 
All that said, I'm rooting for 

840
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,300
Ohio State. 
I love to see Ohio State in the 

841
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,200
final and like, I don't care if 
we get a pretty easy route to a 

842
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,000
Big Ten Tournament title, like 
it's been 24 years there, have 

843
00:43:19,008 --> 00:43:21,200
it easy routes have been hard 
routes, we screw them all up. 

844
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Like, I'd like to just win one 
and I do think this could be a, 

845
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:27,300
you know, playing Ohio. 
State is just an easier lift, 

846
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:30,300
both from a team perspective, 
and just not having to bounce 

847
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,100
around with Edie for 40 minutes 
and And I would rather just not 

848
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:34,800
play. 
Purdue although as much fun as 

849
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,900
another Purdue metric would be, 
I'm actually not sure how hard 

850
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:42,100
you want to go against Purdue in
that game on Sunday. 

851
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:44,800
Knowing you have to turn around 
and play five days later. 

852
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,900
But what's your thought is a, I 
don't care. 

853
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,200
I just want to get to the title 
game and oh, well, no, I'm not 

854
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,000
in this for this. 
I mean, this from this 

855
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,800
perspective, I don't care. 
I mean, you can make the 

856
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,500
argument if you really wanted to
go down the pathway of which 

857
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:01,800
team, it's like, well yeah, I 
mean Bang. 

858
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,900
Around against Purdue would be a
lot and, you know, but I don't 

859
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:09,800
know every time I see someone 
saying, well, gosh, you know, 

860
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,300
you don't want to play in the 
championship game because he had

861
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:14,400
to play a few days later. 
It's like this happens every 

862
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,700
year in a bunch of different 
conferences, teams win their 

863
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,500
conference titles and then turn 
around and play really well in 

864
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:24,500
the NCAA tournament. 
It's and teams that are no more 

865
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:26,800
or less deep than Indiana. 
You know teams that are running.

866
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Seven man rotations it's pretty 
straightforward. 

867
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:34,400
You know let me laugh. 
Last year Kansas, they beat 

868
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,800
Texas Tech in the Big 12 
tournament championship and they

869
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,500
got turn around and play on 
Thursday and then Saturday, and 

870
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:43,000
they won. 
Both of those games, and then 

871
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,600
they got some time off, and then
they went out and won the 

872
00:44:45,607 --> 00:44:48,000
regional, and then they won the 
National Championship. 

873
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,300
I mean, it doesn't have to be. 
Well, gosh, you can either spend

874
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,300
all your energy on this game or 
you can play well in the 

875
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,400
tournament. 
And so I just think that that's 

876
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,300
there's that's been kind of a, 
it's almost. 

877
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,500
It's like an old. 
Yeah, I know it. 

878
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:03,900
Well, Just a narrative that 
doesn't have a lot of grounding 

879
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:07,600
in reality. 
It's very much independent to 

880
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,500
each team's, you know, levels of
whatever. 

881
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:14,600
And I think when I get down to 
it, my my thought process is 

882
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,000
ultimately this, would it be 
better to play? 

883
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,300
Purdue play them closed, you 
know win or lose whatever. 

884
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,200
If you play Ohio State and they 
get hot and they end up winning.

885
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,300
Do you feel worse about yourself
because you lost to a 13 seed? 

886
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,200
Certainly you're not going to 
feel any Worse, if you beat Ohio

887
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,000
State in the Big Ten Tournament 
championship game, I would love 

888
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,500
another crack at Purdue, but I 
also think playing Ohio state 

889
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:41,900
would be an easier matchup for 
Indiana. 

890
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,200
All Things Considered. 
So that's where to me, it 

891
00:45:45,207 --> 00:45:48,500
doesn't matter and to me like 
winning the Penn State game and 

892
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,200
getting to that title game, it 
really does feel like a bonus 

893
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,900
but it feels like we talked 
before about. 

894
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:56,000
What is this motivation? 
What is the motivation for this 

895
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,500
team going to be are they going 
to come out and you know care 

896
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,400
about being You know, 
participant in the Big Ten 

897
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,500
Tournament, it didn't really 
matter from a seating 

898
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:08,300
perspective at least we didn't 
think that it did. 

899
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:13,000
So, does it really matter to 
them how they perform in the Big

900
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,700
Ten Tournament? 
As it turned out, it did like 

901
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,400
they had plenty of chances to 
kind of fold up tents in that 

902
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Maryland game. 
And just be like, well, we 

903
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,000
showed up and now let's move on 
and go to the ncaa's. 

904
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,900
But this team looks like it's 
got a little bit of mission in 

905
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:31,200
them, and I do like that. 
And I think that ultimately the 

906
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,800
chance for This team to play in 
a Big Ten Tournament game is 

907
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,300
really important to give them a 
feeling of doing something that 

908
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:41,600
is important, something that is 
bigger than just an individual 

909
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,400
game. 
I think psychologically that 

910
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,300
could help regardless of who 
they're playing against and if 

911
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:49,500
it's Purdue so much the better 
because they've shown they get 

912
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:53,000
up mentally for Purdue and you 
know, that's that. 

913
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
That's what I want them to. 
I want them in that mindset as 

914
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,900
they're going into the neck now.
Hopefully, they don't, you know,

915
00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:59,700
they beat Purdue in the Big Ten 
title game. 

916
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,800
Let's avoid what they did after 
they beat. 

917
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:07,100
To MacKay in the first boat race
by Oral Roberts Roberts. 

918
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:08,400
Right? 
Right, right. 

919
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,400
So but that's, that's my thought
on it. 

920
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,200
I'm not trying to be unfun. 
I just I, you know, Ohio state 

921
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,600
is playing, so such 
significantly different 

922
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,000
basketball, now than they were 
before. 

923
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:21,300
It's hard to really get your 
head wrapped around. 

924
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:23,800
Like, who are they, like, what 
are they? 

925
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,600
You know, it's funny like, well,
you know, we're here, debating 

926
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,300
bubble teams and who's going to 
get in? 

927
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,700
And I asked the question on 
Twitter yesterday, it's like 

928
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,500
Like if Ohio State wins these 
last two games and gets to 18 

929
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,100
and 18 and wins the auto bid 
where you, where you going to 

930
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:41,800
put them in the field, you know,
people say like 12, 13 play in 

931
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,900
game. 
It's like this team's 49th in 

932
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:49,900
can pump like, this is a team 
that the metrics have not left 

933
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,900
them, even if they're 
recommended been. 

934
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,900
They've been like top 50, Ken 
Palm all C's. 

935
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:55,400
Yeah, he says their records kind
of bad. 

936
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Like they've been quietly. 
A very good metrics team. 

937
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,700
Yeah, they've been a team that's
like struggled to get over the 

938
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Clearly. 
But they've also won five of 

939
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,600
their last six games. 
And, you know, they're, they've 

940
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,400
played pretty well even in a lot
of the losses that they had. 

941
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,800
I mean, they went to overtime 
tied at Rutgers they lost by 

942
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,400
three at Nebraska, they lost by 
five at home to Wisconsin. 

943
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,100
They lost by six at home to 
Northwestern. 

944
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,700
I mean, they've been in a lot of
games and so I, you know, I 

945
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:27,100
think it'd be it'd be a mistake 
for IU fans to look at. 

946
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,300
What do you want /? 
Do you want Ohio State and say, 

947
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:31,500
oh you want Ohio State? 
It's a much easier team. 

948
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,500
Indiana's, beating Purdue twice.
You know, Indiana did beat Ohio 

949
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:38,700
State once but that was clearly 
a different Ohio State team than

950
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:40,000
what you're dealing with right 
now. 

951
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,900
Yeah, you're the Big Ten. 
It's like you are you are like, 

952
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:46,200
Indiana. 
Purdue is a very sexy finals. 

953
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Matchup. 
I don't think, Ohio state, is 

954
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,000
this a white? 
Is it the same is, is the big 

955
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,500
kind of where that, I you 
produce a rivalry like, they, 

956
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,500
you know, we get a lot of Ohio 
State Michigan. 

957
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:03,100
We get, we do, we get a lot of, 
you know, like Iowa versus 

958
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:07,200
Minnesota or we get outta or we 
know, we'll get, like, it feels 

959
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,000
like Michigan State. 
It's a lot of Michigan, Michigan

960
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,800
State. 
We get Ohio State Penn State, 

961
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,700
which I guess it's a rivalry in 
some eyes, like, I to some 

962
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:18,800
degree feel like of all of the 
actual major natural rivals. 

963
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,400
In the conference, the IU per do
is kind of been left aside as an

964
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,200
afterthought like even in those 
throwback games that they'll 

965
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,000
show, they've only got like a 
rotation of two games that they 

966
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,600
show between Indiana and Purdue.
Where is it got like 19 or 20 

967
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,600
between Michigan and Ohio State.
So I'm not you say that. 

968
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,800
It'd be a sexy matchup, I'm not 
entirely sure. 

969
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,500
The big Ten's aware that these 
two teams are longtime rivals. 

970
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,300
That that's fair. 
I will also say we've done this 

971
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:45,600
to ourselves by not having good 
matchups like that, though. 

972
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,700
I've been dead. 
We've been good or not good and 

973
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:50,100
vice versa, but which even more 
reason, why it wouldn't be a 

974
00:49:50,107 --> 00:49:54,700
sexy matchup. 
But no, it would be the the 

975
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:57,900
building would be fascinating 
because it would be 75 %, IU 

976
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:01,300
fans and it would be, I don't 
know. 

977
00:50:01,308 --> 00:50:05,200
The vibe would be fascinating, 
you know, I would love to see 

978
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,500
it. 
I mean, Indiana's only been in 

979
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,900
one big ten title game and its 
history and I was there at that.

980
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:12,600
One. 
That was the game against Iowa 

981
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,200
in 2001 and it's, it's just, it 
feels like 22 years has been 

982
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,000
long enough. 
Like it's probably time to go 

983
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
back once again and tough 
opponent with this Penn State 

984
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:28,200
team, but I like Indiana's 
chances given the fact that, you

985
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,200
know, I feel like they have a 
better sense of who they are. 

986
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,400
They've got a more complete 
roster, they're not starting 

987
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,300
Jordan Geronimo. 
I think that defensively, 

988
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:37,500
they'll be more locked in and 
more aware of what they need to 

989
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:40,400
do. 
And it feels like offensively. 

990
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,100
After a little bit of a tough 
stretch, in that, Maryland, game

991
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,100
they've got their legs under 
them now in this tournament and 

992
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,700
that's really what I think is 
going to be important in terms 

993
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:50,400
of going out and matching Penn 
State shot-for-shot early. 

994
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,800
So I block off Thursday, Friday 
and Saturday, Sunday of the 

995
00:50:56,808 --> 00:50:59,000
first weekend of the NCAA 
tournament because I love those 

996
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,100
days and I block them off and I 
like watching basketball. 

997
00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:06,800
I haven't done a good job of 
blocking off these days in the 

998
00:51:06,808 --> 00:51:08,900
Big Ten Tournament just because 
I love God. 

999
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:11,400
What do you all? 
But what Why would I? 

1000
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:15,200
And so tonight you know we have 
some friends with there's a 

1001
00:51:15,207 --> 00:51:18,700
neighborhood like a community 
sponsored trivia night that 

1002
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,100
we're doing at 7 and then a 
couple weeks away from what 

1003
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:24,400
neighbors you have. 
You have what we're doing trivia

1004
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,200
night, okay? 
Neighborhood. 

1005
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Tribute, you are much more 
tightly knit in your 

1006
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,400
neighborhood than I am. 
Like, you know, we can't even 

1007
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,300
agree on when is a good time to 
mow Lawns on Sunday? 

1008
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,000
Wow. 
Get out up to Westfield, so 

1009
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,400
immunity, but then my close 
neighbors, you know, part of my 

1010
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,900
rotating group of, you know, 
friends I bring the games they 

1011
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:50,500
wanted to do. 
We're doing dinner and a wine 

1012
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:53,300
tasting before. 
So we're leaving at like 3:30 

1013
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:58,700
4:00 and I like my wife is she's
a big fan too but I'm like going

1014
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:02,300
to be the guy on my phone at a 
you know night out doing a wine 

1015
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:03,900
tasting and then a dinner. 
I'm just going to be like 

1016
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,200
watching the game on my phone 
and kind of do a sounds good. 

1017
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,700
Yeah, sounds good. 
So I I may not be closely night 

1018
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:12,100
to my neighbors after tonight. 
I will have stories of how this 

1019
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:13,700
goes tomorrow, but I'm going to 
be that guy. 

1020
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:17,500
And then, you know, I actually 
have God, I don't want to say 

1021
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:18,400
it. 
You're gonna make fun of me even

1022
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,500
more. 
I'm in a pickleball league on 

1023
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:22,600
Sundays. 
So it's like I'm going to miss 

1024
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,700
part of the possible, Big Ten 
championship game because, you 

1025
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:29,500
know, I'm in that on Sundays and
I wasn't expecting, it's like 

1026
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:32,400
just the I love. 
I you blowing up my weekend, 

1027
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200
plans, it's great, it's better 
than the other way where I'm 

1028
00:52:34,207 --> 00:52:36,800
just like, all right, who cares 
about, you know, Michigan, State

1029
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,100
Iowa. 
I still can't believe you have a

1030
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,900
week like a neighborhood trivia 
night. 

1031
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:43,900
That's fascinating. 
How many people participate in 

1032
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:44,900
this? 
I need to know more. 

1033
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,100
So it's there's like eight 
tables. 

1034
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:52,000
Each table has you know six or 
eight people. 

1035
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,300
You're talking like 60 70 people
from the neighborhood come 

1036
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:56,600
around. 
We do it like once a year. 

1037
00:52:57,500 --> 00:52:59,400
It said we have a clubhouse or 
neighborhood. 

1038
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:01,900
You do it once a year and 
someone schedules it during the 

1039
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:04,700
Big Ten tournament. 
It's not ideal. 

1040
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:07,800
So, if I say yes, it's not ideal
but it's not an ideal. 

1041
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,100
Time to scare other no sports 
fans, out of these 60 people 

1042
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,500
that are there. 
I mean, it's kind of wild the 

1043
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:16,600
the people who schedule it. 
I would say or definitely not 

1044
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,200
sports fans and we'll put it 
together. 

1045
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,700
Are the people that you would 
expect to be very into HOA 

1046
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:25,400
things and responsibility. 
Leave it at that. 

1047
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,300
Yes, that I hope. 
I hope they're not like they're 

1048
00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:30,800
looking at the bracket Matrix 
much and yeah, I hope they're 

1049
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,700
not listening to this podcast, 
your HOA fees might start going 

1050
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:36,400
up. 
I can guarantee you, they are 

1051
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:43,100
not listening to this podcast. 
Just talk all the smack on this 

1052
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:45,000
podcast with impunity. 
I love it. 

1053
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,700
I'll let you know how we do. 
Yeah, good. 

1054
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:50,300
Well, good luck with that, and 
you're doing this at 3:30 in the

1055
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:56,000
afternoon wine tasting, wine, 
tasting at 3:30 and then dinner 

1056
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,700
and then the 7:00, you know, is 
a tip. 

1057
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,700
Are you wearing like a top hat 
to this like what's like what? 

1058
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:12,000
About dinner and then a spot 
some trivia at 7:00. 

1059
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,300
Oh Cheerio yes I think the 
butler the butler is driving us 

1060
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:19,500
there so it'll be nice. 
He folks wondered how the other 

1061
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:24,200
half lives, you're getting a 
peek into it here anyway, well, 

1062
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,600
I gotta mention promo code home.
Yes, gonna hope for you to use. 

1063
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,600
They're sponsoring home Fang. 
The promo code Daddy's got wine 

1064
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,600
to drink. 
Yes go. 

1065
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,800
Yep. 
Scott's got the third mortgage 

1066
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,000
going to pay for all this now so
I screwed up the then I try to 

1067
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,400
piss away with the Pacers 
moneyline. 

1068
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,900
Yeah, there you go. 
But I did notice it. 

1069
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:46,300
Let's finish off with the 
betting lines. 

1070
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,000
Yes, would be James to be 
unhappy. 

1071
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,800
Yeah, I want a couple parlays. 
I've done well, but the, the 

1072
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,400
betting line for this game. 
I've not pulled it up. 

1073
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,500
Yeah, I know this. 
So as so it started it started 

1074
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:02,000
at Indiana. 
Ah, by 3 and it is gone up to I 

1075
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,400
believe Indiana 
three-and-a-half. 

1076
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,800
I'm checking it right now. 
Yeah. 

1077
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,300
So Indiana right now. 
Three and a half Point favorite 

1078
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:11,000
over under is a hundred and 
thirty nine point five. 

1079
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,500
So you're talking about 
probably, like, that'd be about 

1080
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:21,400
a, you know what, 72 or 72 268 
win, for Indiana, they're 

1081
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,000
projected. 
Actually it's we talk. 

1082
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,700
It just went up to Indiana - for
literally literally switched 

1083
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:30,400
over. 
That's interesting. 

1084
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,600
I mean it's moved to full point 
Indiana's Direction. 

1085
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,600
You know what that happened? 
That happened. 

1086
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:37,000
Yep. 
See see people. 

1087
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,400
People are somehow listening 
live which frightens me since 

1088
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,300
we're not actually broadcasting 
this life. 

1089
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:45,500
But no this happened yesterday 
recall as you know the line went

1090
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:49,300
from like it was plus 1 for both
teams which was weird all the 

1091
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:51,800
way up to Indiana - two and a 
half and then it's settled. 

1092
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,600
I think in Indiana - one and a 
half. 

1093
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:57,300
So there is movement in a three 
and a half on DraftKings. 

1094
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:58,900
Yeah. 
So there's there is movement in 

1095
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:01,500
favor of Indiana, which, you 
know, is probably a lot of 

1096
00:56:01,508 --> 00:56:03,000
public money. 
I can't imagine as a lot of 

1097
00:56:03,008 --> 00:56:04,900
people, betting Penn State out 
of fandom. 

1098
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:09,800
So, you know, at this point, I 
would say, honestly, Penn State 

1099
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,700
plus four is not a terrible play
because I think this is going to

1100
00:56:12,707 --> 00:56:15,000
be a close game. 
You know, this is a game where, 

1101
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:19,400
you know, I love Indiana to kind
of do what they did in this one,

1102
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,800
where they grabbed control with,
about 10 minutes to go, and 

1103
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,900
don't let go I finally did that 
Scott. 

1104
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:26,200
Yeah, I'd like to thank them 
like this game, the game at 

1105
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Purdue, they finally started 
grab control of games and take 

1106
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,300
them all the way to the end. 
I don't know if they're gonna be

1107
00:56:31,308 --> 00:56:32,900
able to do that against Penn 
State. 

1108
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:38,200
But, you know, I do think that 
34 Point margin is a good one. 

1109
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,700
I do think Indiana should be the
favorite in this game and then 

1110
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:44,200
go the stronger team overall. 
I think the metrics demonstrate 

1111
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,400
that BPI, I think has Indiana 
like rated to win by like five 

1112
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,000
and a half but Ken palm oil has 
got them ready to win by like 

1113
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,500
one. 
So it's or two I think but 

1114
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:56,300
tortex got them up by one and a 
half. 

1115
00:56:56,300 --> 00:57:00,900
So the metrics think this is 
relatively even but this time in

1116
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:05,800
Indiana's favor looking at at 
Haslam metrics, let's check that

1117
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,500
out real quick as that's a 
pretty good measure of seeing 

1118
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:11,500
where everybody's at in relation
to each other. 

1119
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:17,600
Indiana in this one is going to 
be projected against Penn State.

1120
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,200
Yeah. 
They're about a one and a half 

1121
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Point favorite in hasil metrics 
as well. 

1122
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,200
And again, last, you know, 
yesterday, They were about a one

1123
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,200
and a half Point Underdog, so 
that might be a good thing for 

1124
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,900
Indiana. 
Obviously if they're projected a

1125
00:57:28,908 --> 00:57:30,200
little bit stronger than Penn 
State here. 

1126
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,000
So, we'll see what happens. 
But yeah, overall should be a 

1127
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,800
fun one games at 3:30. 
Hopefully, everybody enjoys it 

1128
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,300
Scott. 
Any final thoughts before we 

1129
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:42,100
wrap up. 
No, man, this is this is fun. 

1130
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:45,700
I mean this is him to have to 
still be like to have a matchup 

1131
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,500
where I think there's a real 
possibility, you know finals 

1132
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:51,800
matchup of the Big Ten 
Tournament against Purdue would 

1133
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800
be fun. 
It would be annoying. 

1134
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,600
If Purdue when's, the big 10 
outright and then also in the 

1135
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,000
Big Ten Tournament against us. 
But so the brakes and, you know,

1136
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,700
we're there and get into a, you 
know, a second final. 

1137
00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:06,200
Like we thought we'd be here, 
it's wild but you know, Bobby 

1138
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,800
three years later, thought we 
get to a final. 

1139
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,100
We're gonna maybe we're really 
really close, but no, it's it, 

1140
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,700
you know, I joke with this about
Jared on the last pod, you know,

1141
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:18,900
there are some whether it be 
tongue-in-cheek Stakes. 

1142
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,300
There are some steaks here 
where, you know, you joke about,

1143
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:23,900
you know, Mike Woods. 
Having 20% of all big 10 

1144
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:28,200
tournament wins but like he's 
you know, one or one or two more

1145
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,100
wins to more obviously, but one 
more win and like you have the 

1146
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,700
discussion like as Mike Woodson 
the best Big 10 tournament coach

1147
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:37,000
I've ever had is Trace Jackson 
Davis, the best player that 

1148
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,400
we've had in the Big Ten 
Tournament. 

1149
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,000
There's some and again you could
laugh. 

1150
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,700
I got who cares. 
It's a small sample sizes. 

1151
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:43,500
All right, but you know I'll 
quote Jared like if they're 

1152
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,100
gonna play the damn thing like 
you got to keep track of stats 

1153
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:47,300
and you might as well be good in
it. 

1154
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:51,200
And you are getting to a point 
where if they can win today, 

1155
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:54,200
this is the Best 2 year run 
we've ever had in this 

1156
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,000
tournament and it happened under
trace and Jalen and Mike 

1157
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Woodson. 
And that's that's not nothing. 

1158
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,600
I agree. 
And yeah it's one of those 

1159
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,100
things I think, as a defense 
mechanism, I you fans of cut the

1160
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:07,100
Big Ten Tournament out of their 
lives. 

1161
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,400
You know, it's it's like the 
family member. 

1162
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,900
I'm planning planning weekends. 
It's we'll see you next week. 

1163
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,000
It's a family member who won't 
stop arguing about politics. 

1164
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,400
You know, the holiday you just 
like I don't want that energy in

1165
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:24,500
my life and it's it is as You 
said before it is possible to be

1166
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:27,300
good at the Big Ten Tournament, 
like, you don't have to suck at 

1167
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,400
it. 
It's not a requirement Indiana 

1168
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,600
and so I would love to see them 
get back to the title game and 

1169
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,900
it could be an illustration that
this team actually does have 

1170
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,100
some Firepower and some ability 
to play in games like this. 

1171
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:43,200
And I'm excited because I think,
you know, I mean, I Penn State 

1172
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:46,000
is a unique team, they're a very
different team. 

1173
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,800
And I think, one of the things 
that you learn watching 

1174
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,900
basketball for many years, is 
that the NCAA A tournament, 

1175
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:54,100
especially the first round 
match-up. 

1176
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:57,000
You got a lot of matchups 
against a lot of quirky teams 

1177
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,200
that do like one thing, well, 
that most teams don't. 

1178
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,400
So the fact that Indiana has 
only played Penn State wants. 

1179
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,700
A gets revenge game B has to 
prep on short, rest against a 

1180
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:10,100
team. 
That does something entirely 

1181
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:13,900
different from the last team and
see that it's going to require 

1182
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:18,100
them to play really good defense
for 40 minutes if they're going 

1183
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:21,700
to come out with a victory. 
All of those things I like and 

1184
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,500
whether or not any Wins or loses
this game. 

1185
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:26,700
I think it'll be an important 
step along the way for them and 

1186
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,400
I don't think Penn State should 
be underrated. 

1187
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,900
I think you know, Jalen Pickett 
deservedly is viewed as one of 

1188
01:00:32,908 --> 01:00:36,100
the best players in the league. 
And they've got other really 

1189
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:38,000
good pieces. 
They've got three guys shooting 

1190
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,800
over. 40% from three, four. 
If you count Michael hen who 

1191
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,300
hasn't taken that many so it's a
challenge, it's not an 

1192
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:48,200
overwhelming challenge 
Indiana's. 

1193
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,800
Got more talent. 
I think Indiana should win, but 

1194
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,800
they're going to have to play 
their a game to come up with 

1195
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,700
that Victory. 
So we'll look forward to seeing 

1196
01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:57,000
it. 
I appreciate everybody listening

1197
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,800
and if you made it through the 
hole, you made it through the 

1198
01:00:58,808 --> 01:01:01,900
whole hour. 
We drop this at about 10:30 and 

1199
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:04,000
the games at 3:30. 
So, if you make it all the way 

1200
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,400
through, and you didn't listen 
to as it, like, 2x speed more 

1201
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,900
power to you, I really think 
you're You're Swell. 

1202
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:16,100
We'll go ahead and wrap up. 
Scott has to go get dressed for 

1203
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:20,200
his trivia day and top hat and 
all I'm going to go get dressed 

1204
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,300
to watch. 
IU basketball. 

1205
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:22,700
Anyway, thanks so filled up. 
Carol. 

1206
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,500
Thanks to our friends at the 
back home network and thanks to 

1207
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,100
you. 
Our loyal listeners will be back

1208
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:30,400
one way or another on Sunday 
morning. 

1209
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Catch you folks on the flip 
side, bring back the Bison. 

1210
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,300
So everybody