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But Scott, you were out in Big Ten, country on your vacation,
how was that? It's great.
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They haven't done it. So, I went, and it was great.
I mean, like it's, it's beautiful.
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But how might we took the family down, took the picture front of
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being the Rose Bowl behind me but yeah I went to the Rose
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seeing a game there someday with.
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versus UCLA? Yeah, at least a regular season
game, maybe nothing. Postseason but hey we can dream
but know a lot of news to talk about today in terms of the
future schedule for IU at least in football as the Big Ten
announced earlier this week, that they have a new model by
which they are doing things, we were quite skeptical of what
that would look like and how I you would fare in it and
actually it was better than we thought.
So we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about I use protected Rivals as well as.
Who they're going to be playing the next couple of years.
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this. So the Big Ten announces today.
I like how they didn't do it on a Friday, so it wasn't a news
dump. Like they did it at like 4:00 in
the afternoon on a Thursday. They announcing you three funny
that they didn't, they didn't if it came out and announced like
we're going back to leaders and legends, right?
It's like let it sit there for a second and I gotta screwing with
you, I know, yeah, we need some like, dark comedy coming out of
Big Ten front, office's, I think occasionally dark comedy that
isn't, hey, we decided to just, you know, unilaterally change
the Rules that everybody agreed upon at the beginning of the
season, so I you you're not going to the yeah.
Exactly, you know, so that that comedy, we could avoid.
But now the Big Ten. Everybody was wondering what was
going to happen with the Big Ten in terms of scheduling, as
obviously with, you know, 16 teams in the league divisions
were becoming increasingly unreasonable, and unwieldy at
least on the football side, and we didn't have divisions on the
basketball side. So, There were questions about
how this was going to be done, we'd heard suggestions about a
pod system but what they settled on was a series of protected
opponents and then to play opponents which aren't really
protected, but they're kind of temporarily protected.
Iowa somehow gets three protected opponents, they're
playing. I was like, you're just going to
take all the protected. T like how does that?
Although I'm constantly baffled at why this conference bends
over backwards for Iowa of all teams, of all programs.
Its I mean, not that Iowa doesn't deserve some
consideration but they get Minnesota.
Nebraska, Wisconsin, every year at least for the next couple of
years and I guess beyond that. But anyway, for Indiana and
oddly and oddly, Illinois. And Purdue is a protected area,
which I never what I think of Big Ten, you know, rivalries,
that that was never top of my list.
So how Purdue Lux into, like, they got a horseshoe to?
Because we gotta we gotta keep another bad opponent, our
schedule every year. But I mean, I will say in the
Deanna only one protected opponent and it's Purdue, they
do get a kind of a quasi protection on the Michigan State
series, at least for the first two years where they will play
Michigan State, both home and away.
And then they get, Maryland, both home and away in 24 and 25,
which thank you. I appreciate that.
Even though Maryland's good Maryland's, beatable as Indiana
has proven at times, whereas, the games Indiana has been
playing consistently against Ohio state every year, Michigan
every year Penn State every year, we didn't To see that
again, and we didn't in this. And so, honestly, Scott, I feel
like I'm in a bush and played Northwestern and five years.
We really, we have a real long history cap.
I will think like to play opponent.
You need a better name for it. Like, you know, it sounds like
it sounds like, it sounds like one of those games that you used
to play on espn.com back in the dial-up era you know.
But you can win the free sneaker phone if you like if you're
really good at to play. Yeah.
But No. But I mean, all told I think, IU
has to feel really good about the situation that they're in
right now as they were able to avoid getting locked into
playing Ohio State. They were avoiding, you know,
they avoid getting locked into play.
Michigan, they avoid getting locked into play Penn State and
that was really what we've been complaining about for, you know,
essentially the last 10 years is this idea that I you was
constantly being essentially offered up as a sacrificial lamb
again. Programs that were so far ahead
of them now. It doesn't mean they're not
going to play those teams. It just means they're not going
to play them every year. And instead what Indiana gets is
a setup that is a bit more friendly in that.
There's a chance going into every scheduling season that
you're going to have, you know, potentially winnable games as
opposed to just crossing three of them off immediately and
saying, well, we probably aren't going to be competitive in.
Those know, I'm just a big 10 Our Graphics Department like
they have this, you know, the 2024 ponens 2025, and it's like
they have the team's right underneath the name of Indiana
in white. But those are the away games.
It's a weird setup of how they're doing.
It is odd. Yes, looking at it know, what's
great 2024. We don't play Michigan and we
don't play Ohio State. Our home schedule in 2024 is
Maryland. Minnesota Penn State, Purdue and
UCLA. That's all things told, that's
really good. I mean, this is where, you know,
it's like we have complained about the Michigan, Ohio.
Eat Penn State triumvirate every year.
It's always funny. You know, I say it all the time.
When I people, I know up here who are Purdue fans, they're
like, oh my God. Next year, we got to play
Michigan and Ohio State. It's like, okay.
And we do that every year ago, we had Penn State like, so we
don't get that it's nice, but it's also like, you are in the
Big Ten. There's going to be some tough
games. It also is funny that in 2025 as
this goes out, like there is one list lat, you know, we do play
Ohio State Michigan again, it's like a big ten saying, like just
before we change things up like we're gonna Kick Indiana in the
pants one more time. Speaking of Purdue, they somehow
don't get Ohio State or Michigan in 2024, but they do get Ohio
State in 2025 a some are they do get a high state of Michigan in
2025. So they get to taste the pain
for a year, which is nice. But no all things told this, all
this shake-up benefits Indiana in a very good way.
The divisions, the way they were set up, we're just particularly
bad for Indiana because you're in a spot.
Are, you know, we had that, you know, God, it's like turning
into. Like, I don't want to rehash the
covid here anymore, but it's like, it's almost like the
night. Fiery thing is don't want to get
into the covid thing and how that fits in.
But it's like, that was kind of an abnormal, for the most part
year, but every year in you're in, you're out, you're just,
you're at a disadvantage to Michigan, Ohio, State and Penn
State. You should be similar to
Michigan State. Although, it's not totally the
case, although we've been kind of 500 within the last couple
years, but it's kind of like, you were just Battling with
Maryland, Michigan State and Rutgers for like who's going to
stay on the bottom of the division who's going to finish
fourth? And that's kind of the lot in
life. You were going to have you might
be able to break out here and there it was just not good.
For those four teams, Indiana being one of them.
As you said that the biggest fear and a shake of here is like
if they would have somehow locked us into like three
divisions and suddenly we were in a division with like Penn
State Michigan, Ohio State again like just the four teams like
that in Indiana. It's like I do this really now
we're just going to flog The rest of time, this all things on
the table. This seems like a really good
option for a team like Indiana. It's certainly better than the
current situation is and what Indiana's faced.
I mean, ultimately, you know, I think I've said this on the
podcast multiple times before and I'll say it again, like I
think to some degree, the schedule has been a an excuse
for IU because yes, obviously it's been problematic that Has
had to play those teams every year, on the flip side, other
teams in the conference have figured out how to beat
Michigan. They figured out how to beat
Ohio, State and Indiana. I don't think deserves much
credit for having not figured out how to beat Michigan and
Ohio State. I dive an updated the
spreadsheet and a few years. But, you know, for a while there
up until Indiana beat them in 2020 IU was the only school that
hadn't beaten Michigan from 1987 to 2019.
And, you know, you look at State.
The only teams that haven't beaten them since 1989.
Have been Indiana, Maryland and Rutgers like you know Minnesota
figured out how to do it. Nebraska figured out how to do
it. Northwestern figured out how to
do it. And so you know certainly it
didn't help to have to play those teams every year but I
also don't think that this is some kind of magic wand that's
going to suddenly make Indiana a more competitive football
program. It just means that there will be
less guaranteed losses at the start of the season.
They Still lose the games but you know, but it is positive and
I think ultimately not just for Indiana but for Maryland in
Rutgers as well. This is a welcome change and
honestly well from this perspective I mean Marilyn and
Runners look at something else. Yeah.
But you know and and and also I think even Penn State you know I
think Penn State's a little bit. Their wit's weird because Penn
State was not given any permanent rivals in the looking
at. I didn't fully I saw that.
So that's the face. I was making.
Yeah. Like you think Penn State is
like, I know this is all released in the Press is out.
Like, I only got three. Like, just, just to show you
guys not like Iowa. I know we're relatively new but
like there's, you know, Rutgers is newer like USC.
Like can we get 1? Like we just take one of Iowa's.
Yeah, I'm do we get any? Well I am part of this
conference and that's why I am somewhat surprised.
When you look at this that Marilyn or that like that there
was no no I was thinking more of that Penn State would get like
Maryland or Rutgers is a permanent rival, a local game
against a team that's clearly a Are below them.
But, you know, the, the overall ones that they decided to
protect, I mean, clearly, like Michigan was going to get
Michigan. Instead, estate in Ohio state,
that one, that one makes a lot of sense, USC and UCLA.
We're going to get each other. You know, it's not surprising
that. I like Maryland and Rutgers got
each other because of their geology graphic proximity, but I
do feel kind of as I look at this, that this is going to be
something that they tweaked in the future.
I also think to some degree Green.
Maybe they didn't put no gets for her.
I will get higher gets five. Yeah, our sketch, I can detect
exactly. But no, I have a sneaking
suspicion. The way they did this.
That they're there, at least keeping it open in the back of
their minds that, you know, we might have to change this up for
2026 anyway, because we might have a couple of new teams that
were welcoming to the conference.
So, like why, why can't what? Yeah, so get away.
Good no, I was just saying that that was the other thought that
I had a kind of a big picture way, is this?
This feels I like the way they're setting this up, but
this definitely feels very flexible.
And then, if they decide to add two to four more teams, it even
in 2024 or 2025 at 21.5 too soon.
But like if they announce to add something new, like this doesn't
feel like this is set in stone. This feels very much and we
could add a team in 2025 and you could very easily just kind of
re-engineer this on the Fly versus had they done like you
know three different divisions, where you kind of need time to
cycle that through this feels this As I look through it and
thought about it, this feels very much like a we know we have
some other teams on the radar that we're going to bring into
the Big Ten but we also know we have to answer the question of
what are we doing with our schedule today so this kind of
answers it in. This is flexible enough that if
we decide to add, you know, just you know Arizona and Stanford in
two weeks. Yeah.
You can easily swap them in here.
You look at the the schedule for 2024, for Indiana, I'll will
have to obtain a hoary on This this might be the easiest
football schedule Indiana's ever had in the Big Ten.
And I mean, if you look at it night, the your home games are,
Maryland, Minnesota Penn State, Purdue UCLA.
I mean, honestly, all five of those might be winnable games.
Even if you want to take Penn State out of it, the other four
will be winnable and then you got your road games or Michigan
State, Nebraska, Northwestern and Wisconsin.
I mean Indiana's, one at all of those stadiums.
Weirdly except Jordan within the last decade, you know.
So I do think that that certainly less daunting than
what you might see otherwise but so we go, we go yeah.
Four and eight that year and well gets an extension based off
of that or five and seven. It's hard to say that's Alan's
extension here, right? Yeah.
Well, that will be most likely. That will be, that is the
position Vector after the 24 season is when the buyout drops,
let's just put it that way. So we'll see what happens with
All of that. But then 2025 is an incredibly
difficult schedule Indiana's home games that year, Iowa,
Michigan. Michigan, State and Rutgers and
then their Road games are Illinois.
Maryland, Ohio, State Purdue and USC, which at that point?
I'm assuming USC is on Full Throttle.
Ranked 5 in the country. Probably, yes.
Yeah, but it's, you know, it's all told I'm curious to see how
this itinerate sin future schedules, but I will say from
an IU. Active.
They do not feel terribly hard done by in this particular setup
and and look, it's the Big Ten and you're gonna have a lot of
good football brands in here and, you know, to some degree, I
guess Scott, I don't mind getting, you know, if you're
going to incur losses incurring, losses, because you're traveling
to USC or you're traveling, you know, other places is not as bad
as Incurring the same losses against the same teams over and
over and over again, which is essentially at what it felt
like, for Indiana, for quite a while.
But, you know across the conference, you know, I do think
that the, you know, with a 9 game scheduled that the league
did a pretty good job of figuring out how to balance some
of this stuff. You know.
I haven't looked at it Piper closely in terms of like each
individual teams expected schedule.
But it does do, I think what they've tried to do and and
honestly but I think a lot of leagues are struggling to get
their heads wrapped around in the mega League era, which is
give everybody a taste of playing everybody else
relatively regularly without getting so locked in to a
divisional format that frankly I think it outlived its usefulness
and also as we've seen and build kindly pointed this out in an
ESPN piece had kept the Big Ten from actually having its two
best teams matchup in the conference Championship game
because it was so Strictly based on divisional format and so I am
happy to see all of that. And you said something in there
that got really tiring as an IU fan, I'm sure as like, I would
sure it'd be a safer at Ohio, State fan on the other side of
the coin, it got tiring in the divisions that just you plate.
I think, I know, it's kind of an oh, shit moment, but it's like,
you play the same teams over and over again.
It got kind of tiring like, all right.
Well, let's go lose Ohio State. Again, like this, we do this
every year. It's like Groundhog Day and it
becomes. Like the Maryland, Rucker games
become the tube, Biggest games of the year.
It's like, it never changes by the fact that like, it took us
eight years to play Nebraska, like to Braska, was in the
league forever. We never played him.
I look at this and it's like, wow, we're playing like
Northwestern. And we're playing, you know,
USC, and we're getting Illinois mixed in there like, it it just
feels like we're playing more of the Big Ten and I'm sure again,
from Ohio, State's protected. They probably got tired.
Like, we gotta kick the shit out of Indiana again.
Like we do this every year, like they just get tight.
It's just it felt very Mind and it didn't feel like you were
part of a larger conference. I think it's interesting, just
kind of looking at, you know, who UCLA and USC gets their
first two years as home games just because they're Marquee
teams coming in. And you definitely see like, you
know, UCLA is hosting Ohio State in year, one and then USC's
going to Ohio State and Year too.
So they're getting Ohio State, both of them, you know, UCLA is
getting It's our USC gets Michigan in year in 2024 and
then, you know, oddly, they get they get Penn State and year 2
and UCLA gets Wisconsin. So it is, it's a nice balance.
I mean, you know, it's a nice mix, you know, I mean, UCLA fans
can say, oh great, we get USC at home, we get Ohio State at home.
And, you know, hopefully they just ignored that they're going
to be watching like Northwestern and Minnesota coming to play
them and USC. They don't get, you know, the
sexy pic of you. Of Ohio State, but they get
Michigan coming in and playing them and that's really cool.
I mean, I am excited to see these Big Ten teams finally
playing both in the Rose Bowl and in the Coliseum not in the
bowl season. You know, I think that's going
to be really fascinating to see how everybody matches up.
What is a team who didn't play Nebraska for eight years?
It's kind of cool that we get to play both of them.
The first two years one you UCLA at home and then 1 USC on the
road. I'm trying to do it in my head.
Now in the First two years, does Indiana play everybody in the
Big 10. I believe there's one team
that's missing, but I have to go through and look, I haven't, I
haven't actually tracked it all down myself.
I could, you could be right. They may end up playing
everybody but again. Yeah, I think it's got Iowa.
I was the hardest one because they have, you know, 75
protected protected games. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, we have to wait till 2025. We get Iowa at home.
I don't know if I don't know if they are, they protecting?
The home games as well. Do they like, what?
We can't play anybody on the road?
We couldn't possibly were Iowa and also quietly Akron state is
accurate, is also part of the Big Ten just for Iowa, right?
Just for Iowa's purposes. I'm looking through, I think I
think we play everybody. Yeah, yeah, going through it.
Every every team just got to see Rutgers Rutgers is Rutgers and
25 at home. What would be interesting?
Yeah, I you at least plays everybody in the Big Ten in 20
either in 2024 and 2020. Five, which is cool.
I'd be curious to know if every team is in the same boat or if
there are there's got to be some voids here or there but that's
you know, give it up for the Big Ten again for a team in Indiana.
That's been you know it's been years since we played Illinois,
we feel free to play in the North or South Northwestern
much. We can play Nebraska for a
while. It's nice that we're going to
get see everybody in a two-year span.
So, they haven't announced what tiebreaking procedures will be,
and I do think I'm not just to be clear.
Now, Ohio state with not worried about ending at the first, but
the bright. The first Iraq is Ohio, State
wins. And, and I'm also not
particularly worried about Indiana, being in these tie
Breakers in the near future. But I will be interested because
you're gonna have a situations where there's two undefeated
teams that didn't play each other and how they decide to go
about breaking that kind of a tie is going to be really
fascinating but you know, they're look.
The entry of the interesting thing.
If you look at the, the press release from the Big Ten, the
the four bullets, the kind of guiding constructs that they
used for. This were maintaining control
and flexibility as the college football postseason format
evolves with the goal to create access for programs into an
expanded college football playoff.
I'm glad to see them actually publicly acknowledging that
balance of annual Travel by distance regard regions of the
conference and time zones, balance of historic.
And recent competitive Trends and then balance.
And maximization of Television inventory, it is going to be
interesting to see. Like, how many of these I you
games actually end up on National Television versus?
How many of them are on peacock every year?
That's, that is the, that is a question that, you know, I do
think in the Anna's going to get some opportunities, you know,
especially with with big teams coming to Bloomington.
I am curious to see like this. Does you see Ela Indiana, get a
decent spot on television somewhere, probably, not just
Penn State, you know, at Indiana, get one.
Perhaps it does. Does Indiana at USC, get one.
I don't know. I think this is where the
inventory thing is going to be really fascinating because
clearly, there are going to be tears of inventory, where, you
know, your how good you're doing and how well, you're competing
is going to factor directly into how much you're seeing and on
what particular annals. So right now, you know, I feel
like Indiana is unfortunately kind of in the peacock tier with
a lot of how it's played the last couple of years.
But on the flip side of it, I think of Indiana can be
competitive this season. Especially maybe they put
themselves in a better inventory, format to better
showcase the program in future years.
That's going to be a really curious thing to watch.
Just watching how the Big Ten and it's television Partners,
decide they're going to manage these things.
As you mentioned peacock, it makes me think back to Indy car
like maybe a little blackout the games.
Maybe it'll break out peacocks of, people can't watch him in
those in those areas. No, I think you're right, you
know, but even as Indiana's been bad, it feels like we were
always getting a lot of, you know, new tspn games.
I think, you know, there's going to be there.
Probably still going to have the Friday night games.
That will be a game that we won't be part of it.
Like this. I think there's gonna be enough
inventory of Sunday Saturday night games, Friday night games,
that are going to feature the The Good, the good team.
So to speak that will probably have a couple.
But you know that's that's the least of my worries.
That's something where I feel like the Big Ten has been pretty
good and flexible about you know as you get better even with in
season they promote you pretty well, if that's pretty much you,
you earn those rights and honestly Indiana hasn't earned
any of those rights except for it feels like somehow we always
earn starting the season playing Ohio State, like so good.
It's nice that, you know, I hope that in 20, whatever year it is,
you know, the year we have Ohio, They in 2025 I hope we don't
open the season with Ohio State again but yeah I hear you on
that. I think that's just something
where you we have to earn those. Those note or spotted, it's
gonna be, but it's going to be harder.
Because every week if you have a USC, Ohio State game, that's
going to be their Michigan's going to be there, it's like,
it's as a conference gets bigger, it's harder to get, you
know, a light on yourself. Hi, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tap out
on this conversation with this Scott.
Okay, so Indiana's with their protected rival and Then there
to play. They've got Purdue, Maryland,
Michigan State, Purdue with their protected rival into play
has Indiana Northwestern and Illinois.
Who got the better deal? given given what we know right
now about what the next couple of years of the Big Ten are
going to be That's a great question on the surface I would
say Purdue got the better deal that said, and I think I've
talked about this in previous podcasts.
You go back and look at the last like nine years US versus
Michigan State. We're I think we're either even
or we have a one-game lead on them like, and the years that
we've been good. We've been better than Michigan
state has been. Like we've obviously been, well,
except for the They watch the college-football playoff.
But yes, I think if you start the year after, he struck the
Earth, which is like simple, but that's like nine year eight
years ago. It's eight or nine years ago.
Mike go on. Hey I set the rules wherever I
want, but like there haven't been a lot of we've been very
similar to Michigan State. I think we're better than
Maryland and then Purdue obviously you know, they're
going to be there. I think it's very close.
So I thought I would honestly take either one of those.
I think probably a slight Edge to Purdue for what they got, but
I Either one of those are pretty good.
As I look around, I want to answer your question and I'll
also ask you this is there. If you could just take any other
teams, you know, protected and to play opponents, is there
anybody else's group you'd like to have as opposed to Indiana?
Well, let me let me answer my own question first on this and
then I'll get to that one. I actually kind of like,
Maryland Michigan State Purdue slightly better going into the
next few years because I think Michigan State might be in real
trouble from Iraq. Perspective.
And from a program perspective, where's Illinois does feel like
it's kind of on the come up right now with Bret Bielema as
their coach Northwestern and Maryland.
I mean, I Maryland's better than Northwestern and might be for
the foreseeable future, but I don't know if northwestern's
completely crashes a program then then yes, Purdue got the
better end of the deal here but if Northwestern can fight back
to like, 500 level respectability, perhaps,
perhaps, it's actually Indiana, I mean, looking at the rest of
the The collections here. I don't know that.
I would, well, I gotta say. I don't know.
I mean, I'm looking at it. I mean, if if Indiana didn't
have such a terrible history against Wisconsin, I would
probably vote for Iowa's Trio of Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin,
but beyond that, no, I actually really like what Indiana's got
in front of them as far as their lineup is concerned.
But I think Purdue's is probably the easiest over all of the
group's. Yep, and I agree with you.
I was looking through it's like well you kind of start looking
like our who doesn't have Michigan, who doesn't have a
house. Take a guess at Penn Doesn't
Wisconsin. It, it trims down pretty quickly
I'm with you. I like Iowa's.
But Wisconsin is like a guaranteed loss for us every
year. Yeah.
All told to me, the takeaway is I with you.
This isn't a magic wand, this doesn't suddenly mean we're a
bowl team, because there's more teams, there's more wins.
You got to get in conference, but I think this gives us a
better path to success. Now, you got to do it and we
need a quarterback to do that. Well, among other things.
Yes. But now I think well that's
another story for another day, but Ultimately, the big story
here. The Big 10 East is dead.
And may, it lie in disgrace somewhere for the rest of time,
you know, after this upcoming season, no more Big 10 East and
that's that's the headline news for IU fans.
That's the most exciting aspect of the Soul.
Yep. And I think this open real quick
just an end to 5 minutes here. I do think this opens up.
I think this is kind of a quiet telling that the Big Ten is open
for business for other teams because they didn't set things
in stone. There, weren't divisions there.
There wasn't something that's going to be really hard to
unwrap her. Add teams to that's the way I
read it. Two part question for you.
Do you agree with me and then just for fun, if the big Ten's
going to add teams, where do you think they add?
Eames or What teams do you think they add?
Wow, I mean, there's so many moving parts right now.
It's, you know, I still think that it's, it's more likely.
If the Big Ten were to add, something it would be as a
result of the ACC, starting to Splinter as opposed to the
Pac-12, starting to Splinter. But if the Pac-12 does Splinter,
I do think the Big Ten will be open for business there and
we'll just kind of take what they can get.
I think the preference would be to go in a different direction.
Direction. You know, there's some
interesting news about all that. I mean University of Miami is
now part of the AAU, not the not the not, the high school
basketball association, but the American Association of American
universities, which is kind of seen as a prerequisite for
getting in to the Big Ten, you know?
And that's that might factor into things.
You've got all of this back and forth as far as what's going on
with ACC grant of rights. But ultimately, the end of the
day, I think. What is really going to factor
in more than anything else? Is what the big 12 ends up doing
and what they're able to pull off, if they really go and get a
couple of teams out of the Pac-12 of Colorado defects.
If Arizona defects suddenly I think you know, Oregon and
Washington are wet right back on the table.
And that if you think about it, now you've got a perfect setup
where each of those three each of those four teams on the west
coast. Suddenly have a protected
rivalry with each. Other.
And now that solves a lot of travel problems that might not
have been there, otherwise. And so, that's that to me, is
probably still the most likely scenario.
Although I know a lot of big, ten presidents, and leaders
probably would prefer to be looking the other direction,
geographically at things. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I'm not
as tightly plugged in as you are.
I just, I look at this as your kind of down to a, it's a battle
between the SEC and the Big 10 and while it isn't totally, this
way, it does feel like the SEC has been making moves.
The Big Ten has been, I don't say reacting, but that's just,
you know, the, the SEC gets Texas and Oklahoma and the Big
Ten gets USC and USC, it would, it would be nice in this kind of
war and Tit for Tat for the Big Ten to make a proactive move.
And, you know, go out and get those four teams you mentioned
Suddenly It's like, all right balls in your court SEC, like it
just it. I would love to see the Big Ten.
Get aggressive versus if the SEC goes and grabs two schools, then
it's like, all right. The Big Ten again it doesn't I
think that the USC UCLA was a very measured move and a lot of
logic to it but it and so I don't want to say it's reactive
but it's just it it would be nice to see the Big Ten kind of
be proactive and put the SEC on their heels.
I don't know. I mean I hear where you're
coming from but I also think that they're playing two
different games right now and we're not both models can work.
I mean the Big Ten is pursuing an NFL style model and the SEC
is pursuing a Different kind of model one.
That's a little more regionally cell in an SEC type model.
Well, it's it it well, but it's not even if you thinking about
more professional comparisons. It is.
It is just a different kind of setup than what you are seeing.
The Big Ten do and we'll see you.
I mean, I think they're both going to be successful.
You're just talking about measures of success at this
point, but yeah, I'm gonna be fascinating anyway, Scott, this
was fun. We'll talk about this, some more
as more comes out and I will see you and everybody else in the
audience. At the LA Coliseum sometime in
2025 when Indiana is taking on Southern California.
I mean, by the way, I'm yeah. Thatthat sounds like a fun trip.
I'm in depth but let's go. I mean, it's that's more just to
see the Coliseum. That's not to really see a
competitive football game, you never know.
I I have a sneaking suspicion of these Pac-12 schools aren't
really that good which has been borne out with most competitive
items the last several years. But yeah.
Anyway like in Riley and USC, I I think they're going to be on a
path a little bit different than I you.
Yeah, we'll see. We've heard that from several
other coaches or about several other coaches out there before
it's tough to win in the modern game of football.
When you just don't have the same level of recruiting base
that you used to have out there, but that's going to be the
fascinating part. So anyway, I great.
We won. We won one big 10 game in two
years. Yeah, I agree.
It's tough to win, I'm never mind.
Anyway, all right. Well, I know you're talking
about, you will wrap it up. So for Scott, I'm Galen.
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