1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,000 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:21,200 field apparel, welcome back to Crimson Cask ale and caviar 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,300 here, happy Saturday morning or maybe early afternoon depending 4 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:28,300 on when you're listening to this it is the first of October happy 5 00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:31,000 October. Those of you people that 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,300 celebrate that kind of thing, and I guess Happy official, 7 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:40,800 pumpkin spice, latte season, and happy, Big 10 football for real 8 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:43,300 season. As I you and the rest of the 9 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:48,300 conference, pretty much entirely locked into conference opponents 10 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:50,500 from here on out. Yeah, couple of exceptions here 11 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:54,900 and there, I'm guessing. But overall, this is where stuff 12 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:59,000 actually starts to happen with football, and this is where I 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,300 use season. Is really going to be made or 14 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:06,800 broken in what happens here. I think over the next four to 15 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,500 five weeks. So we're going to talk a little 16 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:10,800 bit about some IU football stuff. 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,600 We had some lingering questions from earlier on, in the week 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,100 that we wanted to tackle and we'll give you a preview of this 19 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:18,900 game. Today is Indiana, takes on the 20 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:23,300 Nebraska Cornhuskers, a really weird game from a matchup 21 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:26,400 perspective, given where these two teams are at right now. 22 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:29,400 And you know what, sorts of things they're both facing and 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,000 really I think for both teams how important this game is so 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,400 we'll talk about that will answer some of the questions 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,700 that you folks have asked here over the course of the last few 26 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:40,000 days. First of all, just a reminder, 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,100 that Crimson cast is part of the back home. 28 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:43,600 Network. In the back home network, is 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,900 brought to you by our presenting sponsor home field apparel, 30 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:50,400 home-field apparel debuting. 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Right? 52 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:02,900 So be sure to check out home-field apparel, use the code 53 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:06,300 home. Get 15% off of your first order 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,200 home field apparel.com. Alright, Indiana, football comes 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,300 into today's game with a three-on-one record on the 56 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:18,900 season disappointing, but not shocking loss. 57 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:24,000 Last week as they fell on the road to the Cincinnati, Bearcats 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,900 and, you know, life on the road for IU in general, not really 59 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:29,700 great. Overall there. 60 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,300 Not a team that is historically performed well on the road, 61 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,900 although it is interesting thinking about that. 62 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:38,600 If you think about the way that I you is played on the road, 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,300 historically, there's a lot of reason to kind of duck your 64 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:46,700 head, you know, for instance, from the year 2000 to the year 65 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:52,300 2009 IU, football won a grand total of four Road games in 66 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:55,100 conference. And two of those happened in the 67 00:03:55,108 --> 00:03:58,900 same season 2001, that was that bizarre year where they went on 68 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:01,000 the road and beat Michigan. Dayton Wisconsin. 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,400 And then, of course, lost at home to Utah and a couple of 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,900 other teams, that they shouldn't ended up, missing out on a bowl. 71 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:12,000 But, I will say this, you know, we go back and forth sometimes 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,800 about Tom Allen, and his overall contributions and, you know, 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,700 where he's at, in the success levels of IU coaches in the 74 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:22,300 past. But, you know, I think it's 75 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:26,600 important to keep in mind that this is a guy in Tom Allen who 76 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,000 has won eight games on the road in, Conference since he started 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,200 his head coach and that is just really a tremendous 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,100 accomplishment. Overall. 79 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:38,200 I mean, Kevin Wilson who coached for about the same amount of 80 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,400 time, only managed four wins on the road in conference. 81 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:46,300 And, you know, you've got other coaches out there. 82 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:50,100 I mean, Bill Lynch one, once on the road in conference Cam, 83 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:53,700 Cameron 13 times, but as I mentioned two of those wins 84 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:56,800 happened in the same year. So you do have to tip your hat 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,800 to Tom Allen and this IU program over the course. 86 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:03,100 For the last few seasons, they won three games on the road in 87 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:05,400 2019. They won three games on the road 88 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:08,800 in 2020 and while they didn't win any on the road last year, 89 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:12,900 you know, the obviously it's a new season and, you know, it's 90 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:14,700 going to be fascinating to watch with this IU. 91 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:19,300 Team is how they handle a situation, where they went out 92 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:23,100 didn't play particularly well in the first half, but then came 93 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:25,100 back. Tom Allen was asked about that 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,800 in the one of the press conferences during the week. 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,100 And, you know, he claimed he was going to be changing up practice 96 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:36,000 and they were going to be doing more best offense versus best 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,400 defense. Sorts of practices to try to get 98 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,600 themselves more in the mindset. It's weird. 99 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,000 I mean, this IU team has not started any of their games, 100 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,500 particularly, well, this year, I mean, that an OK beginning to 101 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:51,700 Illinois, but I think that was artificially inflated by the 102 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:53,100 fact that Illinois didn't start very well. 103 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:56,700 And that game either, which you would expect in a week, one kind 104 00:05:56,700 --> 00:06:01,100 of contest, but, you know, I use Not a good enough team that they 105 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:05,700 can come out and be disengaged or not fully engaged in. 106 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:07,500 What's going on? They really have to come out and 107 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:11,900 hit things from the beginning especially against a team like 108 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:16,100 Nebraska who, as I mentioned on the podcast, earlier this week 109 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:22,000 with Taylor Layman is they're not good but they're not as bad 110 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,600 as people think that they are. This is a Nebraska team that yes 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,700 you know they've lost three out of their four games. 112 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Games and they haven't looked terribly impressive on defense 113 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,100 and that's really been their big issue. 114 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:36,900 But offensively, this is a pretty good team. 115 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:41,300 And, you know, I think Indiana specifically on defense is going 116 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:44,300 to probably have to withstand an early Onslaught from this 117 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:48,300 Nebraska team. They're, they're not, they're 118 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:50,600 not a team with a huge amount of play for at this point. 119 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,900 And I think you could take a look at this Nebraska schedule, 120 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:56,700 and you could say, you know, Nebraska's got real problems as 121 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:59,300 they head out of this game and into the rest of the conference 122 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:02,300 season. Already so far on the season, 123 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,600 their own 1 in conference, and that Northwestern loss that they 124 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,400 had in Ireland, really looks worse. 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Every single week. Now, after Northwestern lost two 126 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,000 games at home, you know, consecutively to Missouri Valley 127 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,300 team in a Mac team. But you this Nebraska team like, 128 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:22,800 they play Indiana at home this week later, they're coming off 129 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,200 there by then next week. They travel to Rutgers, that's 130 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,000 somewhat winnable. But is, you know, I mean, In 131 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,400 real life on the road in the big tennis tough, they travel to 132 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,700 Purdue also somewhat winnable. Then they get Illinois at home, 133 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:40,200 then they got Minnesota at Michigan, Wisconsin, and at 134 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,100 Iowa, and so Indiana. I think of that group, I think 135 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,200 you'd argue because it's at home is probably the most winnable of 136 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,500 those remaining games. I certainly would hear arguments 137 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:56,100 in favor of at Rutgers, but I also think Rutgers at home is 138 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:59,200 probably going to be a tougher proposition than people think. 139 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,600 And I include Anna in that as well as Rutgers is played pretty 140 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,600 good defense. So far this season, and they 141 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,600 didn't look later look great against Iowa, but it wasn't 142 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,400 like, Iowa went in and blew them out or anything like that. 143 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,300 I mean, it's it's so Nebraska, I think comes into this game, 144 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:18,600 trying desperately to get themselves a little bit back on 145 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,000 track. You know, they win this game, 146 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,400 they're two and three and they, at least have a shot at, you 147 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,500 know, getting themselves closer to bowl eligibility. 148 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,700 If they were to pick up a few wins on the trot. 149 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,200 Not but this game really is the linchpin for this north of this 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,700 Nebraska team. If they don't win this, the 151 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:38,500 seasons essentially over, they may lose out. 152 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,400 If they lose this game Indiana's in a similar spot. 153 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:47,700 Indiana, if they win this game, they are now only two wins away 154 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:52,400 from Bowl eligibility and it really takes some pressure off 155 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,100 of having to win the Michigan game and having to win the 156 00:08:57,100 --> 00:09:01,300 Maryland game, you know, simply because those Home games and you 157 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:04,400 really rapidly run out of winnable games once you get past 158 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,700 those two, yes, you've got at Rutgers and yes, you've got 159 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:11,300 Purdue at home and certainly. Michigan State hasn't looked 160 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:12,900 awesome. But I, you know, my concern, 161 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,800 with all of those games is, you know, if you line up all of 162 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,800 those teams, you know, I think you could certainly say some 163 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:24,400 things - about Rutgers in terms of their overall play, but I 164 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,700 don't think they're necessarily on balance that much worse than 165 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,900 Nebraska is and my concern is if Indiana can't win at Nebraska, I 166 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:38,400 have a hard time envisioning being than being able to walk 167 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,500 into any road environment that they've got moving forward and 168 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:43,500 be favored. The, you know, they are 169 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:49,000 according to fpi a, they are an underdog against Rutgers just as 170 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,100 they are against Nebraska on the road here. 171 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,800 So, you know, this, you that's kind of where I'm at with 172 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,400 things. Is this idea that when you get 173 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,800 down to it, if Indiana can show that You can go into a Nebraska 174 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,900 environment that is probably going to be more hostile 175 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:08,100 certainly than what you would find with this IU team, going 176 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:10,400 into say a Rutgers or a Michigan State. 177 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:13,600 It's still a game that on balance. 178 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,700 I think Indiana has to figure out how to win. 179 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:21,200 They've got the offensive Firepower if they can keep 180 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,200 blocking to take care of business and their defense 181 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,200 certainly has the talent to be able to perhaps timing Nebraska 182 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,200 a little bit. From what they would like to do 183 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,300 that. The big question of course is 184 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:36,500 going to be, you know, will either of those things actually 185 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:39,600 be able to suss out? I don't know if that's actually 186 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,200 the case because this Indiana team so far has given up 20, 20 187 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,900 to 30 and 45 points in order over the course of the first 188 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:51,400 four games, and Nebraska has scored a lot of points in the 189 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,500 games that they played so far this season with the exception 190 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:57,500 of that game against Oklahoma. So a lot on the line for both of 191 00:10:57,508 --> 00:11:01,400 these teams and this One of the more winnable games that 192 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,100 Indiana's got on their schedule, the rest of the way coming into 193 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:11,100 the game fpi, gives Nebraska a 60 point seven percent chance of 194 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:14,300 Victory. And, you know, looking at the 195 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:18,800 overall team rankings setup Nebraska right now is 196 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:23,300 essentially estimated to win by a score of about 30, 1227, or 197 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:27,700 3228, the consensus pick. Just barely right now. 198 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,700 According to the numbers is, Aska minus five and a half, five 199 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:33,800 and a half points is a decent amount of money. 200 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,600 The line started lower. I believe the line actually 201 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,700 started out at, like two and a half or three, and then moved up 202 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,800 pretty quickly to where it's at right now. 203 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,600 Indiana Nebraska over under, right now, 61 points. 204 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,500 So you know, sounds like Vegas is expecting a pretty high 205 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:50,700 scoring game and I don't blame them because neither of these 206 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:54,700 teams is really shown a tremendous ability to defend the 207 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:58,600 teams playing against. So you know, a lot of things to 208 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,000 think about with this. Name. 209 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,600 And a lot of items that I think you could be as we've talked 210 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,000 about with this. I you team, there's a lot to be 211 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,600 positive about in terms of, if you want to be positive, you can 212 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,500 say, well look, Indiana keeps finding ways to win. 213 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:16,100 Indiana keeps themselves in games and then gives themselves 214 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:18,200 a shot in the fourth quarter. And the case of the Cincinnati 215 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,000 game, even they, they play well enough, that they can get 216 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,600 themselves back into a game. And they get a couple of bounces 217 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,500 that go their way and, and maybe things are different. 218 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,600 There's also plenty of room for negative thoughts and feelings. 219 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:33,000 Things about this IU team because you could very easily 220 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,100 look at the performance that they had over the first three 221 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:38,300 games and say, yes, they won. But they really didn't play 222 00:12:38,300 --> 00:12:42,000 well, the power rankings, you know, the metrics really do not 223 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 like this Indiana team and the way that they are performing so 224 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,800 far this season. And why would this game 225 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,100 necessarily be any different than that? 226 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:54,300 The problem here is, of course, they're on the road and playing 227 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:58,900 a team that you know, while they have certainly underperformed is 228 00:12:58,900 --> 00:13:04,200 also I think Certainly purely on numbers a more talented team 229 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:07,200 that me no more talented athletes and just has been 230 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,100 coached very poorly over the course of not just this piece 231 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,100 this year, but previous years as well. 232 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,200 So, a lot of little things to think about, with all of this, 233 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,700 some questions that you all had from earlier on in the week that 234 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:23,200 I wanted to tackle. We wanted to kind of, you know, 235 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,600 you know, kind of walk through a few things that we didn't get to 236 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,800 on the last podcast. The first one that I wanted to 237 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,900 touch on is a question that came in a little while ago, which is 238 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:42,300 basically a question about where Indiana belongs in the hierarchy 239 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:44,500 of college football. I get this question a lot and I 240 00:13:44,508 --> 00:13:46,900 wanted to read it and and, you know, I think there's a clear 241 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:49,800 answer here, but I do think it's important to give some 242 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,900 explanation as to why there's a clear order. 243 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:55,900 So a clear answer. So this was from from new East 244 00:13:55,900 --> 00:14:00,100 beast on Twitter and his comment was the following Made the 245 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:03,700 playoffs last year. Averaging less than 40,000 fans 246 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:07,000 and a fraction of I use media Revenue would I you be better 247 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,200 off being the best team in a non power five conference instead of 248 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,000 perhaps the worst team in the Big Ten East and this is a more 249 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 common sentiment than one might think. 250 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Because I think a lot of people look at the success of a 251 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,700 Cincinnati and they say well why can't Indiana do that? 252 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:26,900 Or they look at the struggles Indiana as had in the Big Ten 253 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:31,400 over the course of Ever. And they say, well, you know why 254 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,100 is Indiana even in this conference? 255 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:35,900 Why wouldn't they put themselves in a position where they could 256 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:39,500 win a lot more games by being, you know, like, always drop down 257 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:43,200 to the Mac or let's go to The American or Conference USA. 258 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,400 And I think, first of all, from a purely Financial perspective, 259 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,700 that that really makes no sense. Yes, I know that, you know, it's 260 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:56,600 hard to look at Indiana's, bad performance over the course of 261 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,800 time and say, gosh this. Worth, you know, all of this 262 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,800 money that's coming in but that's essentially an accurate 263 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,600 statement. There is a key element of being 264 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,300 a part of the Big Ten. That doesn't necessarily bleed 265 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:15,300 over into productivity or performance which is that you're 266 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:19,100 just in a completely different economic Stratosphere and from a 267 00:15:19,108 --> 00:15:22,000 standpoint of specifically, the football program. 268 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:27,000 Yes, Indiana has consistently lost, but dropping down a 269 00:15:27,008 --> 00:15:29,600 division, isn't going. To change the reasons. 270 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,100 Why Indiana constantly losses in football or comes up short, or 271 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:37,100 isn't able to compete at the same level as some of these top 272 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:39,700 teams? Ultimately like the reason 273 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,100 Cincinnati has been as successful as they've been going 274 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:49,200 to the playoff last year and you know, getting ranked in, you 275 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,300 know, they were in the early to mid-2000s when they're in the 276 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:53,900 Big East. You know, they get ranked in the 277 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:55,700 top 10. There are pretty impressive 278 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,400 program, overall, Cincinnati has Tired really well. 279 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,400 They've hired excellent, coaches. 280 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,700 You know, they, you know, Mark dantonio coach there and Brian 281 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:07,800 Kelly coach there. And obviously, Luke fickle has 282 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,000 been a tremendous coach. There Butch Jones before things 283 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,500 fell apart, for him at Tennessee, was an excellent 284 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:16,000 coach there. They have done a tremendous job 285 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,500 of hiring the right people and building an effective 286 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:22,700 infrastructure around their football program and doing an 287 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:25,500 excellent job of developing talent. 288 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,300 And that you know I mean honestly Hate to say it. 289 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:30,900 But, like, Indiana could do the same thing. 290 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,800 There's nothing keeping Indiana from making a transformative 291 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,300 higher in football. There's nothing intrinsically 292 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:42,900 wrong with the Indiana that they couldn't do that. 293 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:46,000 Now I, you know, the one issue is there's not really much of a 294 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,900 football infrastructure in terms of, you know, a long-standing 295 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,400 recruiting Bastian that they just lean on all the time or 296 00:16:55,408 --> 00:16:58,100 anything like that but Cincinnati doesn't really have 297 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:58,800 that. Either. 298 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:02,800 And I really do think that you're Cincinnati's success. 299 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,400 Has not been because they're in the AAC because they were 300 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,500 successful. When they were in the Big East, 301 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:11,000 their success has come because they've really dedicated 302 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,300 themselves to having a top-notch football team. 303 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,800 They've made the right hires and they've managed over the course 304 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,200 of 20 years. To build up this tremendous 305 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,500 amount of momentum that bleeds through on the recruiting Trail. 306 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:28,200 You know, you see players going to Cincinnati. 307 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,600 T because they know that or they feel like at least they're going 308 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,800 to get the type of coaching and the type of development to get 309 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,800 to the next level. And so you know, it's easy to 310 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:42,400 do, I think look at Cincinnati's spot in the fact that outside of 311 00:17:42,408 --> 00:17:44,500 the games against Indiana in order to aim last year, they 312 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,700 didn't play anybody. Look at the conference that 313 00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:51,700 they're in and assume that the correlation there is, oh, it's 314 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:53,800 because they're in a week or conference and what if Indiana 315 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,900 did that? But I really think it's a 316 00:17:54,908 --> 00:17:57,900 cultural thing. It's a dedication thing and it's 317 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:01,800 a Right hires kind of thing. And I mean you look around the 318 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,400 league, you know, there have been teams that have been have 319 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,000 struggled with success to the level that Indiana has over the 320 00:18:09,008 --> 00:18:14,100 course of time who make good hires and then they blow up into 321 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,700 something bigger and better. Sometimes it only lasts a few 322 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:18,500 years. It's like, you know, when Ron 323 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:22,100 Turner was the head coach at Illinois, that was not a program 324 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:24,300 that I think a lot of people looked at before and said, wow, 325 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:25,900 Illinois. That's a, that's a program we 326 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:28,300 want to emulate and yet that team ended up, I think going 327 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,100 Into the Sugar Bowl one year, you know, they were a really, 328 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:35,000 really good team. You know, that didn't last very 329 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,800 long, but they made the right higher. 330 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,100 They did some good things in recruiting and it ended up 331 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:42,100 working out, Minnesota with PJ Fleck. 332 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:44,800 That was a higher that a lot of people were questioning looks 333 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,600 like a pretty good higher now and and looks like that'll 334 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,100 continue to pay dividends in the future. 335 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:52,000 Unless one of the really big boys comes calling and even 336 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Purdue, you know, I mean Purdue makes a higher and Joe Tiller 337 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,400 that not a lot of people were excited about and he elevates 338 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,700 that program for a Gate your time Alan did a mini version of 339 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:03,400 that in the covid year and certainly deserves some credit 340 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,500 for it. But you know, there's this is it 341 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:12,600 has to be a longer-term process. And I think rather than thinking 342 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,500 about amusing, about the idea of how it Indiana fair, if they 343 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:18,400 were in a week or Division, I think the bigger thing is, you 344 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,100 know, think about, I always look at IU hiring Kevin Wilson and 345 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,400 say, okay, that was, you have to look at that as kind of the 346 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,300 starting point of Indiana, taking it slow. 347 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:30,500 Football program. Seriously, not that Wilson was a 348 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:34,700 perfect coach, but Wilson was a different kind of Coach higher 349 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,900 than we'd seen Indiana make in the past. 350 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:41,600 And, you know, he brought a different attitude and mentality 351 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,500 and unfortunately, for IU, and to some degree for Wilson. 352 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,700 I think that project kind of got derailed after four or five 353 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:51,100 years. It didn't really culminate. 354 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:53,000 The way that one might have hoped it would, but it was at 355 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,400 least a step in the right direction. 356 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,200 And I think Alan is a continuation of that. 357 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,000 But this isn't something that's going to happen overnight. 358 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,800 This is something that, you know, you almost have to look at 359 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Indiana football. I I've gotten to the point where 360 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:13,700 I kind of look at its history as kind of being divided by The 361 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,100 completion of the North End Zone facility because that was really 362 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:21,000 the first time ever in the football program's history. 363 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,100 At least since the late 50s that someone said we need to make 364 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:25,800 some Capital upgrades and Facilities. 365 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,700 We really need to start investing in the program. 366 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:33,100 So but you know that the weight room that came with it and you 367 00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:35,800 know, the overall budgeting of football, it just was much 368 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,500 different in that higher than it had been in the previous four 369 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,700 and, you know, while you did have obviously that period of 370 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,500 That's with Bill Mallory, in the late 80s, early 90s it. 371 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,500 That was a, that was more of an exception than it was the rule 372 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:51,600 for IU football, in the way that things were. 373 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,600 And so I think that, you know, I you as slowly slowly climbing a 374 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,400 mountain. It's possible very much so that 375 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,000 they're at a plateau ratan right now because of a variety of 376 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000 factors, but I think those really contribute more than any 377 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:11,800 conference affiliation might plus as I mentioned earlier, 378 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,400 just the financial Elements of it would make it basically 379 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,700 impossible for a Deanna to not be in the Big Ten. 380 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Let's see, Alex G asks, what's the likelihood of the Big Ten 381 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,600 expanding to Ten Conference games next year, when USC and 382 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,600 UCLA join? And if so does the conference 383 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,500 adopt, a pod based scheduling system. 384 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,400 Imagine I you football would desire, Purdue Illinois. 385 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Northwestern is its yearly opponents. 386 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,900 But obviously, a lot of moving pieces and 16 teams to consider. 387 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,300 I really hope that they don't do that. 388 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,800 I mean, I think to some degree, You're going to have to have 389 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,400 some other considerations beside. 390 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,700 Let's play each other as often as we possibly can with these 391 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:56,200 scheduling setups and I think for Indiana the real 392 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,800 consideration that you would hope is that you still get the 393 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,900 opportunity to pad your schedule with games against lesser 394 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:05,600 opponents outside the conference. 395 00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:11,000 I mean, that is a key element. Overall, in terms of how Indiana 396 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,700 is going to continue to get two bowls and I think continuing to 397 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:18,200 get them to bowl. Is a just, an absolute necessity 398 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,900 for this Indiana team to maintain whatever momentum 399 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:22,900 they've got within the recruiting structure that's out 400 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:24,500 there right now. I mean, it's going to get 401 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,700 harder, not easier for Indiana to consistently, get to the 402 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:32,400 postseason with the addition of USC and UCLA because, you know, 403 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,100 however, much you want to look at California teams and success 404 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:39,700 or failure and you know, whether or not, it's a zero-sum game. 405 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,900 The reality is that's two more brands that are just 406 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:46,200 automatically going. Owing to be viewed as Superior 407 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,100 to IU football wise in the Big Ten and you know just pushes I 408 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:53,700 you further down in the pecking order and and look ultimately 409 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:58,700 I'm just of the opinion that conferences scheduling only 410 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:02,000 games against themselves, doesn't help. 411 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600 But you know I think what we've seen over the course of time now 412 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,700 is that the nine game schedule has hurt the Big Ten in terms of 413 00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:12,400 its competitiveness on the national stage for the playoff 414 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,500 because teams just beat themselves up too much. 415 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:17,900 And it ends up being you're almost you're putting too much 416 00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:20,500 of strength upon strength and not keeping in mind that at the 417 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:24,300 end of the day, then the football playoff committee is 418 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:28,100 going to be looking almost entirely at wins and losses and 419 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:34,400 even a good loss is going to resonate negatively more than a 420 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,100 win against an average report team and you can argue all you 421 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,500 want about whether or not that's right or wrong. 422 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,000 What doesn't change is that that's still how it's going to 423 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,500 be looked at whether or not you think it's right or wrong. 424 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:49,500 And so, I hope that I would think tank goes the other 425 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:50,500 direction. Honestly. 426 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,100 I think they should schedule. Eight games. 427 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:54,900 Not nine. I do think a pod based system 428 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:57,400 would make a lot of sense. I think the chances of them 429 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,100 dropping back to to an eighth game is almost almost. 430 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:03,600 It's basically not going to happen. 431 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,100 Like there's no way that they would let it at this point, but 432 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,100 I do think that that's the direction they should go. 433 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:11,500 And certainly, if the choice is between 8 9 or 10, I would opt 434 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,200 for eight and then nine and then way down the list, it would be 435 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,100 10. So that was an interesting 436 00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:20,400 question, though. And I do think that it's going 437 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:26,200 to be interesting to watch this. I you team as they kind of move 438 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,500 through this new formation of the Big Ten, how they fit into 439 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:33,900 the equation. You know, the whatever 440 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,400 scheduling they have to switch to is going to be better than 441 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,300 the current system. I feel Almost 100% certain in 442 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,900 saying that and so that's that's just That's My Hope. 443 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:50,000 Anyway, some other questions. We some from From just some, 444 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,800 bro. Why is it so hard to build a 445 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:58,000 credible offensive line? It's not, it's not like there's 446 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,400 ways to build credible offensive lines. 447 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:04,300 There's there's ways to do this, you know, you see it all over 448 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:06,000 the country and you're, you know, you're always going to 449 00:25:06,008 --> 00:25:09,700 have lines that underperform you know in a given year. 450 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:14,800 But IU has had a subpar offensive line under the entire 451 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,300 Tom Allen tenure there's really no way of getting around that. 452 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,300 At and it's been subpar in Divergent areas. 453 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:27,200 You know, some years it's really bad in pass blocking and it's 454 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,400 okay and run blocking some years. 455 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,500 It's the opposite some years, it's bad in both and ultimately 456 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:37,100 you know, my all the people that asked that question, I think I 457 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,900 know exactly where you're going with it and you're probably 458 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:41,900 right. It's just not that hard. 459 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:46,300 I mean you we were we were talking with Our friend Taylor 460 00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:48,200 Layman. We had been exchanging some 461 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,000 stuff for a couple of weeks ago about offensive line numbers. 462 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,900 And looking at how Pro Football, Focus rates the offense of wine 463 00:25:55,900 --> 00:26:01,200 and you know, you look at IU overall, And since 2017, you 464 00:26:01,208 --> 00:26:04,000 know, you can just go right down the list in 2017, which of 465 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,700 course, I you missed a bowl by one year, one game that year in 466 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:11,000 run blocking, I use overall rating. 467 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,700 For that year was 118th out of 130, teams pass, blocking was 96 468 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:21,700 that of 130 in 2018, where they also missed a bowl 54th and run 469 00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:25,600 blocking 84th in pass blocking. So just very slightly above the 470 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000 median level in run blocking that year, but worse and pass 471 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,500 2019. And they did go to a bowl that 472 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:37,400 year run blocking 114th little bit of a miss you know. 473 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:40,500 Well you can look at that and you can say why they were 474 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:42,200 terrible at run blocking. They also didn't try to run the 475 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,500 ball that off and that year because of caelin deboers 476 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:48,300 offensive approach, but even on that in that year past walking, 477 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:52,000 they were 67th, you know? So right around the median level 478 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:56,100 and that's really unfortunate the next year 2020. 479 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,100 Run blocking 61st pass blocking 124. 480 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Earth and that was the year that Indiana had, you know, their 481 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,200 best year in the last 50 years. Last year, run blocking 67, pass 482 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:13,300 blocking 82nd and then this year so far run blocking 108 and pass 483 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:17,300 blocking 97th like it is it is a consistent issue. 484 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,000 And look I just we know you can go around and look at other 485 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,700 programs and other teams and generally speaking, some kind of 486 00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:28,500 an alteration to the approach of the scheme with the offensive 487 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:32,500 line or the Development of the offense of wine is made. 488 00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:37,300 When you have that many years of being, you know, at best, a 489 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:41,300 middling offensive line. And it's just unfortunate 490 00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:43,900 because, you know, when you think about this Indiana team 491 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,300 and the amount of good skill position players, they've had at 492 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:52,200 quarterback at running back at wide receiver, the under 493 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,700 performance of the offense, almost in every case can be 494 00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,000 traced back to the offensive line, not being able to do what 495 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,400 it It needs to do. And you know, if you look at, 496 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,500 you know, pass blocking for instance and you, you break it 497 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:10,200 down to Joe, just what's going on in the Big Ten. 498 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:16,700 You know what you find is? That Indiana's offensive line is 499 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:22,100 is just absolutely it struggles in pretty much every single 500 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:27,700 capacity, not just compared to others, you know, in the country 501 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:34,400 but also Scared to what you would get across the board in 502 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:36,800 the in the Big Ten. It's just it's not it's not a 503 00:28:36,808 --> 00:28:39,700 good situation all around like so you will go through and look 504 00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:42,400 at at the way the conference is performed. 505 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,100 If you look at pass blocking Indiana right now is 13th in the 506 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,800 conference. In pass, blocking rating on Pro 507 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,900 Football. Focus, Iowa is the only team 508 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,100 that has a worse rating in pass. Blocking, you look at run 509 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:58,600 blocking Indiana is last in the conference in pass, blocking and 510 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,500 biased. Any significant margin, like 511 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,600 their rating is forty. Six point nine, and run 512 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,400 blocking. The next worst is Purdue at 513 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,500 55.5, and that's its significantly behind everybody 514 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,200 else in the conference. And, you know, you can go back 515 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,100 and look at previous years and it's a similar sort of tail. 516 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:20,800 And it's, so it's really, it is not that difficult to build a 517 00:29:20,808 --> 00:29:24,500 decent offense of wine. Unfortunately Indiana just 518 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,600 cannot seem to figure it out and, you know, they are 519 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600 consistently 10th or worse. Conference pretty much every 520 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,600 single year in both categories and so a different approach 521 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,600 needs to be taken on this and it just does not seem to be 522 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,300 resignated resonating with the program. 523 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,500 How much the offensive line has held back. 524 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:49,100 The team over the course of the last several years and it's 525 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,900 again it's not any one person or even any one group. 526 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,800 This is just a very consistent thing that we've seen with this 527 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,300 program, you know, through a few recruiting Cycles. 528 00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,700 Now is we're in the 2022. To season. 529 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:04,100 We had a question from Dave and he'd listened to the podcast 530 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:07,600 that we did earlier in the week. And his question was or more of 531 00:30:07,608 --> 00:30:11,500 a statement a thought on Elio and Vibes are we only getting a 532 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,200 specific type of talent and isolating the rest? 533 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,400 I e0, you know, is there a love and loyalty pitch versus a winds 534 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,500 and visibility and growth pitch? And so this really related back 535 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,100 to this question that we had gotten from from Jared over it 536 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:30,900 assembly call about whether Elio was a Long-term strategy from a 537 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,900 wins and losses perspective. Could you build a winning 538 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:38,500 program on that? And you know, this is where 539 00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:42,000 someone threw out like Clemson is built a program that's kind 540 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,100 of based on that. I still don't know if I totally 541 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:47,900 agree with that but I get where that person is coming from you 542 00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:48,700 know. But I think the problem 543 00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:53,200 ultimately the it's not the Elio thing, I think sometimes gets 544 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,900 too much attention and I think that it's a great rallying cry 545 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,100 for people who He's a very likable, football program, and a 546 00:31:01,108 --> 00:31:05,700 very likeable coach and it's a point of derision for people who 547 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,500 just want a winning program and think that the Elio stuff is 548 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,000 kind of too cutesy or to Wholesome in a you know in a 549 00:31:13,008 --> 00:31:16,500 kind of a Waltons sort of of way. 550 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,000 And I think that both of those perspectives kind of miss the 551 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,700 forest for the trees. You know, the Elio stuff I think 552 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:29,300 is a nice marketing pitch and and certainly it's an ethic You 553 00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:32,200 know, I'm not saying it's just a marketing pitch but I think it's 554 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,900 when it gets down to the end of the day. 555 00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,000 What wins football games? Ultimately is execution. 556 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,400 And that's really where, I think, Tom Allen's teams have 557 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,700 tended to fall down. We just talked about it with the 558 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,300 offensive line. I mean, you've got a unit there, 559 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:49,300 that is not executed over the course of time and all the love 560 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,300 for each other is not going to change that now. 561 00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:58,300 That doesn't mean that preaching Elio as an ethic and a way to 562 00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:02,500 Run your program is bad. It just means that it can't, it 563 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,800 doesn't conquer everything. You know. 564 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,500 Love might conquer all in the animated Robin Hood movie. 565 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:13,800 But in football I mean love is a I think it's a welcoming aspect 566 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,400 and an unusual aspect and one that certain coaches are trying 567 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:24,600 to play up because there's this kind of counter Element of 568 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,600 football right now where instead of the traditional like Junction 569 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600 boys, like we're going to go get our asses run into the ground 570 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,100 and get screamed at all the time. 571 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:36,800 You know it version of being a football player, you want to go 572 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,200 somewhere and feel valued as a person and I think that you 573 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,300 could even shrug or laugh at that but I do think that that 574 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:44,500 actually doesn't matter to a lot of younger players now. 575 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,100 And it should, you know, I think the, you know, I've always felt 576 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,800 the idea that you should go play football somewhere and be 577 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400 treated like a piece of shit for four years. 578 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,000 By a coach because that's going to bring the best out of you. 579 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,200 I do think that's a very Antiquated thought process from 580 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,500 a psychological perspective and I think for a lot of players 581 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,400 they just they don't want. They want to at least be assured 582 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,300 that that's not going to be happening at the place that they 583 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:12,700 go. Now. 584 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:14,700 You know, you're not going to turn down a scholarship to an 585 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:18,700 Alabama or Georgia, you're going to want to go there because, you 586 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:20,100 know, they're going to make you better. 587 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,100 But I think there's a broad middle of College football where 588 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,200 they've got a bunch of options and they may not look that 589 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,700 distinguishable from one another. 590 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,600 You know what I mean? How do you really pick between 591 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,600 an Indiana? And I don't know, like, you 592 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,600 know, like a Wake Forest or something like that? 593 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,800 That may be a bad example but you get what I'm saying? 594 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,300 Like outside of that top Echelon of 10 to 15 teams 595 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,300 psychologically is a recruit, you know if it's not money, you 596 00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:52,700 know, is it culture is culture, what you're looking for? 597 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,500 Is that You're going to make your decision about what you do 598 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,000 and where you go. And so I do think that you do 599 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,800 you get an honest, and you might get a different type of 600 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,800 recruiting, a positive way using Elio as a sales pitch, that you 601 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,600 might not get if you weren't doing that. 602 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,100 And there's no question that Tom Allen, if you compare his 603 00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:15,199 recruiting successes in terms of raw numbers to what Kevin Wilson 604 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,500 was bringing in or what Bill Lynch was bringing in, it's 605 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,300 better. I mean, the numbers are better. 606 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,699 The rated the player ratings are better. 607 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,800 There's better overall Talent from an objective scale from 608 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,000 people who don't necessarily care about IU football. 609 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,199 And I do think that that demonstrates that that approach 610 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:37,199 and how Tom Allen and bodies it does resonate among players. 611 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:41,000 I think the bigger issue though is if you're bringing, you know, 612 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,900 a three star caliber player and you don't develop him enough so 613 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,699 that he's playing like a four-star by the time he leaves. 614 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:51,000 Well, that really wasn't better recruiting than the coach who 615 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,400 brought a two star player in and recruited them up. 616 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,500 Play like a three or four star player. 617 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,900 And that's where, you know, I do worry about the development on 618 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:02,400 this team long-term now that we've had several years to look 619 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,700 at it. And look at how players have 620 00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:05,200 developed. You know, for every Mike 621 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,400 McFadden who obviously develops, you've got two or three 622 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,500 relatively highly regarded players who just never 623 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:15,500 particularly performed at the level you would have expected 624 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,600 them to after three or four years, you know? 625 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:24,000 And so I think to Dave's question ultimately You're 626 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,100 probably not getting as good at a quality of recruit without the 627 00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:33,000 Elio pitch that Tom Allen's got out there but I also don't know 628 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,700 if the end result is necessarily equating to a whole lot 629 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,500 different than if you weren't getting those players in the 630 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,700 first place but you were approaching it from a different 631 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:44,400 way and really focusing on development and and really 632 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,600 seeing results from that aspect. So you know look I think 633 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,300 ultimately for fans they're going to be primarily interested 634 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,500 in. How does Tom And make me feel 635 00:35:54,500 --> 00:36:00,300 about my football program up to a point for some, not all for 636 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,500 some that's all that matters. How does Tom Allen make me feel 637 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,200 about my football program for others. 638 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,700 They'll do that until they feel like Tom Allen isn't actually 639 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:13,300 moving the ball forward and their football program is 640 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:17,100 underperforming versus what they think that it should be doing 641 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,500 and that is ultimately the big question mark moving forward. 642 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:23,300 For Allen is, you know, can they shake off what? 643 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,300 I've seen here recently in the last year and and and frankly 644 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,600 kind of what we've seen over the first couple of games of this 645 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,400 year just in terms of overall performance and start to re 646 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,800 Elevate to for the program to where it was four years ago or 647 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,700 three years ago or three years ago and two years ago, I guess 648 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,500 it hasn't been that long A couple other questions real 649 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:48,400 quick before we wrap things up. One thing I will say not so much 650 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,200 a question, but Bill Connelly has been posting the box scores 651 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,700 for these IU games and it's great. 652 00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,800 Like if you've never followed bills Twitter feed its at ESPN 653 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,300 underscore Bill. See Bill does a great job using 654 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:11,000 his SP plus ratings and looking at averages and breakdowns of 655 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,600 individual. Ox core elements. 656 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,800 And and you know that, for those of you who are out there that 657 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,800 are skeptical of IU football, this is a great illustration. 658 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,300 I think these box scores of why your skepticism makes a lot of 659 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:27,600 sense. Indiana, really struggling 660 00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,900 offensively despite running a lot of plays in that. 661 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,700 Cincinnati game, only three point four yards per play, which 662 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,900 is real bad. I mean, that is really below 663 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:41,500 average rushing, I think something like 65 percent. 664 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:48,300 Point of I use Russia's were five or fewer yards. 44.7% of I 665 00:37:48,308 --> 00:37:51,700 use rushes were 40 or scuse me 10 or fewer yards. 666 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000 I mean this is a team that was just absolutely unable to run 667 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,600 the ball and passing wise as Dustin dope, Iraq has mentioned 668 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,800 in his pieces Indiana's, completing passes but not an 669 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,200 efficient rate, 47 percent completion percentage in that. 670 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,700 Cincinnati game, a 45 percent pressure rate, allowed a 0% 671 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:13,100 explosive player. Eight in the possessions 672 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:17,100 immediately surrounding halftime, which is not good 16 673 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,400 plays of third and seven or more. 674 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,600 We talked about that on the last podcast. 675 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,300 This is an offense, that's really, really struggling. 676 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:27,600 And this has been clearly on the mind of. 677 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,400 A lot of you folks out there because we've gotten a lot of 678 00:38:29,408 --> 00:38:33,900 questions about, you know, what is, what is, what is Walt Bell? 679 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:36,000 Do, what is this Indiana team do? 680 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000 Like, how do they overcome this? And yeah. 681 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,700 Are you hype man? Asked a bunch of questions 682 00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:41,600 related to this? How do you feel? 683 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:44,300 About Walt bills. Offense is the o-line fixable 684 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,800 what's Darren Hiller's contract look like I mean I don't know 685 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,300 what the contract looks like. I assume it's a lifetime 686 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:55,400 contract at this point so I really am not sure what the 687 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,600 answer is on. That is the o-line fixable I 688 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,800 know I don't think so at this point, it Punk John pod had a 689 00:39:01,808 --> 00:39:04,400 really nice series of tweets. It's nice to see them talking 690 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,500 about. Are you football again? 691 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:09,800 But one of the things that they mentioned was you know, for 692 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,500 large stretches of the Cincinnati. 693 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:14,200 It just felt like I you didn't even have its best five out 694 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,800 there and you obviously you lose your top offensive linemen to 695 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,100 injury earlier on this year and that does put you behind the 696 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,900 eight ball a little bit. But the idea that the line is 697 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:29,700 this bad really makes you wonder, you know, is this like 698 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,000 how like where's the where's the Improvement? 699 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,300 Going to come from. So you know, when someone asks 700 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:36,600 is the o-line fixable I don't know that it is. 701 00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:40,800 I mean, this is already we 54 Indiana in terms of games. 702 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,700 So You threw a third of the Season already? 703 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:47,100 Like, why would game five be significantly better or 704 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:50,800 different than game four? And yes, you can say, well, you 705 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,800 know, they can improve during the season, but so, can the 706 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,900 opponents? And now, there is what? 707 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,400 240 minutes of game film on this IU offensive wine, obviously, 708 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,500 they haven't been out for the full 240 minutes of the games, 709 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,700 but there's four games worth of game film. 710 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,900 You're starting to really be able to hone in on where the 711 00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,900 weaknesses are, you know? That you can really overpower 712 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,700 the center position. If you're an opponent and I just 713 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,600 I've seen nothing out of Indiana's. 714 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,600 Offensive wine coaching or developmental process over the 715 00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:24,400 last six years that would make me think. 716 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,300 Oh, this line is going to get progressively better as the 717 00:40:26,308 --> 00:40:28,000 season goes along. Hope I'm wrong. 718 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,100 I just don't see it as a situation where Indiana is going 719 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,700 to like magic. We start to get better. 720 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,300 And so it going back to the question of how I feel about 721 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,500 Walt bills offense, I think Walt Bell. 722 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,100 Is doing about the best he can with what he's got. 723 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,500 This certainly feels like a more thoughtful offense than what 724 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:54,900 Nick Sheridan ran out there. And it does remind me a little 725 00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:57,800 bit of deboers offense. It's not as elegant as devore's 726 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,000 offense, but I also think Deboer had a better team to work with. 727 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,500 So it's hard to judge Apples to Apples, you know, I mean the 728 00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:08,800 board is some degree. I think was cognizant of the 729 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,600 fact that the offensive line was Real problem at least in run 730 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,600 blocking and everything. Got shifted around to try to 731 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,300 accommodate that fact and I don't know that Walt Bell has 732 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:23,500 quite figured out how to do that yet, you know, even with that, I 733 00:41:23,508 --> 00:41:26,300 think his offense has performed well enough. 734 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,600 Given the problems that they're facing from a scheme in 735 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,100 Personnel set. But I also say this, I really, 736 00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,100 really worried right now the way that the offensive line is 737 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:39,700 struggling and the way that so much of the offense is 738 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,800 predicated Cheated on having to throw the ball the time I worry 739 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,700 about Connor basil, act being able to make it through the 740 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:48,000 entirety of the rest of the season healthy. 741 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,100 I mean, he's he's getting pressured constantly, he's 742 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:54,400 constantly having to make throws, you know, he's it's led 743 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,900 to some interceptions obviously and I don't think that's an 744 00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:01,200 offense issue as much as it is. A you know you don't have time. 745 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,600 You got to get the ball out. What are you gonna do? 746 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,600 Take a sack, you know how to strip sack for a score for 747 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,900 Cincinnati in the last game and that was entirely due to the 748 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,100 offensive line crumbling at the wrong. 749 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,000 Time. It's just a consistent thing. 750 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,600 And when you get right down to it, I don't know what you can do 751 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,500 as an offensive coordinator. If you have that kind of an 752 00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:25,200 offensive line set up and you don't have like God level play 753 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000 makers at the wide receiver position that can help to 754 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,200 compensate for that. Certainly I think targeting the 755 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,000 tight ends more might be helpful. 756 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,300 That seems to be something that I you have struggled to do so 757 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:39,400 far on the season. But overall I think Bells 758 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200 offense is oohing about as well as it can given. 759 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,100 What it's been dealt, we did have one other question. 760 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:47,500 I wanted to get to here and this one was from Daddy, who's your 761 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,300 XD? What should Tom Allen's intro 762 00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:52,000 music? Be when he walks out of the 763 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,200 tunnel, this one I thought was pretty humorous. 764 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,500 We had a couple of kind of humorous. 765 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,900 Responses Darren Englehart, suggested, Burn It To The 766 00:43:01,908 --> 00:43:05,400 Ground, by Nickelback. Someone suggested, Light Em Up 767 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,300 hope is not a strategy recommended. 768 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:10,500 You've got another thing Comin by Judas Priest, which I Really 769 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:16,100 enjoyed, I don't know. I thought about this a lot and I 770 00:43:16,107 --> 00:43:20,500 keep coming back to one answer and it just kind of to me it 771 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:22,400 fits. I think it should be like a 772 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,900 rock. I feel like we've not heard that 773 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:27,000 song. It was, you know, it was 774 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,400 essentially omnipresent on every car or truck commercial in the 775 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,300 mid-90s for what, like six years, you know. 776 00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:41,500 But I think that That's a classic Bob Seger song Ang and 777 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,500 it just feels like something that Tom Allen would vibe too. 778 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,900 And, you know, it's a mid 80s country song and IT, projects, 779 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:56,000 toughness, and stoicism and standing. 780 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,300 In the face of adversity, plus, it's called like a rock, which 781 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,700 would fit perfectly at Memorial Stadium for obvious reasons. 782 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,800 So, that's my choice would be Tom, Allen's walkout. 783 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,500 Music should be like a rock by Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet 784 00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,000 Band. I would be curious to hear 785 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:14,300 Everybody else has suggestions are on that but I think my mind 786 00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:16,700 is made up. We have to ask Scott about this 787 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,000 on the next podcast and see what he has to say. 788 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:25,200 Last question that we had and it really came down to like how we 789 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,500 feel this game is going to go today. 790 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,000 You know, what's the prediction? And this is a really tough one. 791 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,200 I I've gone back and forth a lot about this game and what, you 792 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,000 know what, what makes the most sense in terms. 793 00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:45,200 Zuv who we think is going to perform well and how it all 794 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,200 shakes out. Overall, I think Indiana, it's 795 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,600 hard for me to to really take Indiana seriously as a team that 796 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,700 can win on the road until they do it again. 797 00:44:57,700 --> 00:45:00,200 Yes, you know, I rattled off at the beginning, they've won 798 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,000 several Road games in the conference under Tom Allen and 799 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,500 certainly deserves some credit for that. 800 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:09,900 But the last one was that Wisconsin game in 2020, you 801 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:11,300 know? Look at all the metrics. 802 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,600 I use defense has ranked 110th in the nation right now. 803 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,800 Nebraska's is ranked 97th. That's a cause for some 804 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,000 optimism. The problem is I use offense is 805 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,200 rank. 114th in the nation Nebraska's is ranked 30th, and 806 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,400 yes, Indiana has played a much tougher schedule, then Nebraska. 807 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:34,000 But, you know, Nebraska's got a much more balanced offense. 808 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,100 Nebraska is about a 49 to 51 ratio, run to pass. 809 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,400 Indiana is a 35 to 65 ratio. Pass. 810 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:50,200 And when you look at the way that I, you has performed up to 811 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,900 this point, it's hard for me, at least to see a route to victory 812 00:45:54,900 --> 00:46:00,000 for Indiana because ultimately, the problems that Indiana has, 813 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,000 yes, Nebraska has, but I think Nebraska has definitely shown an 814 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,200 ability to move the ball better. And I really worry about the way 815 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,700 Indiana. Secondary has played over the 816 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,500 course of really the whole season getting torched. 817 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:16,000 For that of many points in the through the air against 818 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,400 Cincinnati was a real bad sign. And yes they tightened it up in 819 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,300 the second half but you know it's I don't know why you 820 00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:28,500 wouldn't have been fired up to to play Cincinnati on the road 821 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,200 after what happened last year. And the fact that Cincinnati you 822 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,300 know it was a ranked team at the start of the season was ranked 823 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,500 coming into the game. It was an ESPN game or ESPN2. 824 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:42,000 I mean for the defense to come out that flat in the secondary 825 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,400 and struggle is As they did, the fact that they made adjustments, 826 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,600 that made it less bad in the second half time. 827 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,500 I'm not going to give them a lot of points for that. 828 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,300 So I just worry that there's too many things pointing in the 829 00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:58,900 favor of Nebraska in this game to feel confident about picking 830 00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,400 Indiana to win. I do think Indiana's got a good 831 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,300 chance to cover and I think five and a half is probably slightly 832 00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:08,100 too big of a margin and I could certainly see this game ending 833 00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:12,600 up as like a 31-28 game or a 34 to 30. 834 00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:15,300 Gain as opposed to being one where Nebraska is winning by a 835 00:47:15,308 --> 00:47:17,300 touchdown or more because this Nebraska teams got a lot of 836 00:47:17,308 --> 00:47:20,200 psychological issues that they have to work through. 837 00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:23,000 So I guess that's where I'm going to land. 838 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,900 I think Indiana will cover. I think Nebraska will win and 839 00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:29,500 it's a shame because I think it's going to be one of those 840 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:31,900 games at the end. We're all sitting around saying 841 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,100 that was a game. Indiana should have won. 842 00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:35,700 That was a game. They were they left it on the 843 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:39,500 table and again, I hope I'm wrong but that just feels like 844 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,300 the rhythm of this team. This year where A game like 845 00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:47,600 that, you know, a 34-point game, they'll probably win those if 846 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,700 they have them at home but I think they'll lose them on the 847 00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:53,800 road because I just don't think that they've got what it takes 848 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,600 at this point to go and win on the road, even at a place like, 849 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,000 Nebraska where, you know, there's there's a team that 850 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,500 struggling, but on the flip side, you've got great fans in 851 00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,400 the stands. That's going to be a sold-out 852 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,200 stadium. And I think it probably a group 853 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,900 that's like, this might be our last hurrah for a victory, this 854 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:12,800 year at home. Home. 855 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,400 Let's try to make the most of it anyway. 856 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,600 That'll wrap it up for us here on Crimson cast. 857 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,000 Hopefully this got you through the afternoon a little bit and 858 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,500 hopefully Indiana proves me wrong and goes out and does what 859 00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:29,000 they need to do and picks up their fourth win of the Season 860 00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:34,400 as they take on the Nebraska Cornhuskers Indiana 1 and 3 861 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,500 against the spread this year Nebraska Owen for against the 862 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:39,900 spread. So something's got to give one 863 00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,300 way or another on that. So we'll see what happens on 864 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:43,100 that. Aunt. 865 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,400 I hope all you folks have a good rest of the day be sure to tune 866 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,800 in. We will be back tomorrow morning 867 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,500 as we talk through what went on with the Indiana. 868 00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:58,100 Nebraska game will talk through the upcoming game a little bit 869 00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,000 that Indiana is going to have as they have to come back home and 870 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,600 take on Michigan during homecoming. 871 00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:08,700 And we'll also talk a little bit about just, I guess the 872 00:49:08,707 --> 00:49:11,200 beginning of Indiana basketball season, believe it or not. 873 00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:13,400 It is coming up here. Very quickly, as Hoosier 874 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,900 hysteria is less than a week away at this stage. 875 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,500 Thanks to all you folks for joining me. 876 00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:20,700 Once again, we'll be back on Crimson cast later on this week 877 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:25,200 with more information and talk about IU football and basketball 878 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,200 as well. We'll catch you folks on the 879 00:49:28,207 --> 00:49:30,400 flip side, bring back the Bison. So long, everybody.