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October Indiana, 3 and 3 in the conference losses at home.
Last so I guess it was yesterday day to the Michigan Wolverines,
we're going to talk about that. We might get a little Hoosier
hysteria talking as well at the tail end because one of us
attended, not Scott, but one of us attended.
So we'll chat about all that but Scott, first of all good to see
you. How you doing?
Good to see you too man. Doing great doing great.
Awesome. You know you hate the fall and
you know you're a big Gator that but yesterday like that was such
perfect fall football. Rather like how can you leave a
day like yesterday and be like, I don't, I don't like this.
Well, I lie. I mean, honestly you're right,
the weather was nice but I would have the weather would have been
nice if it had been 15 degrees warmer too, you know.
So look, I don't have any complaints about the weather.
Yesterday, I even even in the morning, like, I got up at six,
I got up at 5:45 a.m. so that I could pack the truck and drive
to Oriole Stadium at 650, which is when I got there.
So it was dark. You know, my oldest kid was with
me. She was cold.
I was cold. It wasn't like freezing.
I mean, it was close. I think the temperature was
like, 36. We were lucky because it wasn't
windy, which it normally is, or at least somewhat Breezy.
And when without the wind, honestly, the morning ended up
being very nice, it was kind of Hoodie, whether I started with a
knit cap and then transitioned over to To a ball cap and it
was. Everything was fine.
I didn't really have any complaints except for maybe the
first 20 or 30 minutes but it's also not my favorite, whether
it's fine. I mean it wasn't offensive so I
just it doesn't I don't I will not look back and say gosh
remember that October day that I was at an IU football game and
the weather was amazing. It's probably going to be
something that gets out of my head relatively quickly, but for
those of you who that provides a vitality and a reaffirmation
ocean of Your Love of life and you know, whatever that great, I
think that's awesome. I wish you folks the absolute
best in feeling that way. It was one of the, you folks in
the Galen Universe. I accept that and I enjoy the
weather. Yesterday was cold in the
morning? No doubt about that, but now,
but it was a good day. Overall, in terms of the
homecoming festivities, were fun, and the crowd, it wasn't a
full Stadium, but there was a nice tailgate seen out there.
We had a really Nice tailgate seen.
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the game and you know this was a game obviously that I you was
not expected to win. Talked about it a little bit in
our preview or excuse me, our recap podcast.
Last week, we also talked about it on this podcast in the
preview and there's really kind of two things you can take away.
I think from this game overall at least from my perspective,
one is I think you have to tip your cap to Tom Allen and the
defensive coaching staff for how up that team was to play in the
first half. Especially and really I think
even In into the third quarter, you know you're missing cam
Jones there was that was a surprise.
You know, I'd heard some Rumblings about that the night
before and I was like well gosh that's going to be a real
problem if he can't play and sure enough he was unable to
play but you know I really thought overall the defense did
a really nice job stymieing Michigan.
They Michigan really looked like they were struggling to figure
out how to unlock Indiana's defense, the secondary I thought
played really well had some key pass breakups.
You know, tackling I thought was pretty good overall and it's a
shame that no one's going to remember that down the line.
I mean, that would it ended up being kind of a wasted effort
which essentially kind of bleeds into the second thing I want to
talk about which is just, it's not, it can't be this difficult
to score points and, and move the football, I, you actually
looked kind of decent on offense for the first half, not great.
But hey, you'll take ten ten at home.
Against a top five team pretty much any day of the week.
And I thought that in the first half, it felt like I, you had
made a lot of adjustments, and it was doing some different
sorts of things and gave. A lot of people, myself
included, some optimism that I, you might be able to continue
that in the second half. And instead, the exact opposite
happened, I use offense ground to a complete halt.
Their defense could no longer hold black hold back the the
tidal wave of what Michigan was trying to do and it ended up
being a 21-point loss for this team.
I mean, it's kind of a mixed bag.
Scott, how did you come out of the game in terms of like how
you felt about the effort and how you felt about the way
Indiana approach things? It's funny.
We went out with some friends last night and I was telling me
overall, it was a great game experience like the weather was
awesome. We had a, we had a very smaller
much smaller tail. Get I wanted to get over two
years. The pancake Taco idea, sounded
awesome, our mutual friend, Matt came over and was telling me
about it was like, ah, no, we just had to do nothing coffee
but it was, it was a fun atmosphere, like I'm throwing
the football with my boys. We're having a blast, the
weather's great. They have a good time at the
game. They're watching most of the And
I'm telling you all my friends this like, you know, it was a
really fun day and he's like, yeah, your team sucks.
Like what do you when you come back and talk about the weather
and everything but the game is that gets and you said you had a
good day or team sucks us. Think about this morning is like
that is true. It's like I don't I rarely go to
IU basketball games at come back and back in the atmosphere was
awesome like oh we lost by 30 but not mean that the atmosphere
was was just fantastic but the fans were into it.
I'm like you the effort was really good and there is a small
glimmer there. We were kind of on Twitter and
some other friends texting it's like art which which version of
the Michigan losses is going to be like, how are we going to get
our hearts ripped out? And there was a moment there in
the start of the third quarter where I'm like something feels
slightly different. Like the effort has not given up
on defense, you know, we're it felt different and then it and
then it did and then it all kind of went away.
The two things that I look at it from this game.
Are you know one it's actually not going to be what you think
I'm gonna Go to, but there was that play with the super the we
had the touchdown, the super late you know, past it offensive
pass interference penalty. I don't want to dig into that
because one play does not a game make but I look at this is very
Indiana. What happens after that?
So its first and 25, you know, we're uh we're sorry, we're down
6:50 first and 25 on the Michigan. 25, we have a pass
incomplete. A pass, broken up, but then we
do a shot. Ivers.
Run up the middle for two yards and then kick a field goal and
it's like okay the Shrivers run up the middle like yes I know
there's a 1% chance that breaks for a touchdown.
There's also a chance. What happens again?
Cincinnati where it gets punched out.
We fumble in the Red Zone like but it's like so you're
basically you're in the you're in the 25-year not like in the
Red Zone, but you're in scoring position.
You're trying to beat a top four team and you're just doing it
into Downs. Like, your basic is giving up a
down and I With the answer is because I don't know what plays
are going to run on offense and I'm not here to tell you what to
run but it's like I know that a handoff up the middle like
you're just you're basically resigning yourself to a field
goal and I don't think you can do that and then in the second
half as you mentioned the defense held tight but you got
to a point I was telling us to friends.
I was sitting with like you know, Bay's lack was put in this
position where it's like he had no time to throw.
I don't feel bad for him at all. And he what he was doing is he
had to choose between a couple of bad options.
It's like, our he's got to just either, you know, try and hold
the ball and wait for someone to get open and get sacked or he's
got to throw the ball away intentionally early, which he
was doing a lot, but it's like you do that enough and you just
go three and out. And I was telling people like
this is going to lead to at some point.
He's going to just try and shove the ball somewhere.
It shouldn't go and it's going to be a Pick 6 and I'm like it's
not going to be his fault because at some point like if
your base, like, I'm tired of throwing the ball to the end.
Sideline, he didn't end up throwing the pick-6 but to your
point of it can't be this hard since the last two drives
against Cincinnati. In the second half we have had a
total of 15 drives in a second half of a college football game
in. Any of those.
We've yet to have more than a 10-play drive.
And here are the results of those drives.
Turnover on Downs. Turnover on Downs, interception,
go into the Nebraska game, interception punt, punt punt
punt, punt over on downs. And then in Michigan punt, punt,
punt, punt. Punt over on downs.
And you, you can't do that. It does also beg the question of
like, we need to start talking now that we're into the kind of
competition. We're going to have the rest of
the year, you know, what are the halftime adjustments were
making? Because it looks like our
offense is completely DOA in the second half and you just you
can't have this and Frustrating. Because Yeah, I don't go into
this game thinking, we're going to be Michigan, but as we have
said, numerous times on this podcast, there was a win there,
like there was a possible win there.
It wasn't as bad as a 21-point loss as it felt when you were
there. There was a wind to be at least
contended for and our offense looked completely unable and it
goes all end with this. It goes back to me, it always
goes back to the offensive line. Like that was the problem.
It's gotten a ton of press. Everyone's tweeting about it.
Something that I feel like you and I have been talking about
for a while. I had the podcast with punch,
John punch to start the year, something you and Taylor Layman
talked about and you know, you hear Tom Allen on the postgame.
It's like we know it's problems going to be addressed like, all
right, well nothing's going to happen but it does.
I was also kind of like the flip side is if something happens
like, all right. So if they fire Hiller, it is
kind of funny. It's like, if you thought of
like, if you looked at like, you know, Nebraska and basketball
when they're just like, you know, Five and Twenty Three and
they're like, hey, we're firing our third assistant.
You be like, okay, well that's not solving anything.
So there is a there is a thing to where it's like, you know, if
we just like, let's just say, you remove Hiller and put a new
coach in. It's like, I don't think that a
team that has won five games and two and a half years.
Like, suddenly our third assistant is just like that's
going to unlock everything. So well, I'm always I'm
definitely on the train of like we need help at offensive line.
It does it kind of becomes this weird little point where I'm
even going to go against myself, like I'm not sure that just
solves Also, suddenly were top five team but anyway, those are
very a ton of high-level thoughts as I left the game
yesterday. Yeah, I mean it's interesting
that we saw and it was it's five games in one and a half years,
not two and a half just to clarify.
No, it's just because I knew someone would listen to that and
be like, hey, wait a minute. But I do think that I do
somebody would listen. That's absolutely.
Yes, look, there's no question that the The offensive line
continues to be the main problem with this offense and ultimately
with this team because you know Connor basil like yesterday in
the college game, they count sacks as - rushing yards against
the quarterback and basil act ended up with seven carries for
- 61 yards. And you know, it's there was a
couple of moments in the second half where you could literally
see. Counter basil, act not looking
downfield, and winging the ball downfield because he was already
trying to brace for the inevitable impact of the very
heavy Michigan Defender that was about to smash into his body.
After yet, another blown pass protection, they can't run the
ball period. You know, they had one nice run
or maybe to nice runs total out of jail and Lucas, it was nice
to you got for He's this time, which, I mean that's, that's big
news and three catches so they did get the ball to him a bit
more. But the problem is, there's
nothing consistent. They ended up averaging eight
tenths of a yard per carry. When you add the sack totals in,
they had 25 carries for positive 19 yards.
When you take that yardage away you just you can't live like
that as a football team and so going back to the offensive line
and the Situation. It's interesting to me that you
here. Alan.
If you watched Allen long enough in these press conferences, you
start to notice these changes in tone and this happened towards
the tail end of the year last year with Nick Sheridan.
If you'll recall where you know, Allen's being supported in the
press conferences, he's talking about Well everybody's got to
execute and then there was like a moment, it was right around
the Minnesota game last year where your Alan had that press
conference. Where, you know, he just starts
kind of tearing into this, you know, like what kinds of throws
are Being made and, you know what play calls are being done.
And at that point, you kind of knew, all right?
That's probably it for Nick Sheridan.
And it felt that way with the way that he talked yesterday
about the offensive line. So maybe a change gets made, but
as Dustin to appear act I think it was pointed out in his column
in the star today. It's that mean that's a
complicated thing to do. Do you have somebody else in the
building? That is capable of coaching
offensive lineman? Yes you could make the Argument
that you could hire anybody into that role and perhaps they would
do better than what is currently going on, on the field.
But that that leaves a lot of logistical stuff out it leaves.
A lot of day-to-day stuff out. And as somebody who's you and I
both been on this, but it's like and, you know, coaching football
his heart. I'm not saying that we know
better, but it's like in the end you screwed up and like the the
decision should have been made last offseason.
Look at this point. Yeah, we need, we need help at
offensive line. I'm but I think, you know, I
look at it as like, it's were already locked in for this year.
Again, if you fire him, whoever you bring it.
It's like it's going to be completely just triage.
You can't make an offensive line, you know, total shift
change in four days. Before you play, Marilyn a game,
you have to win. It's like you to me.
It's like, I think people who look at it as like we got to
make a change now, it's like they're missing the point where
it's like, this is all that we, you know, Alan or whomever
screwed up in the offseason like the chain should.
Made your cards are dealt, like this is wet.
Some this is not wet cement. This is hard cement like this is
what the offensive line is going to be the rest of the year, even
if you hire a way Alabama's offensive line coach and bring
them here. I don't think the changes can be
made, like I said, in three days for you get to Maryland.
So like that's where I get frustrated is like all of this
talk not at you because all this talk it's like doesn't make any
difference like. Yeah, the point is you need to
go back in time and like like that's where I do Wonder like
does does Alan like take a moment and a With and is not so
reactionary. And just like says, like, yeah,
I really screwed that up. And I need to look at, you know,
this offseason not making the same, you know, sins that I made
the last 12 Seasons because it's like we're stuck with this for
the rest of this season. Yeah.
I mean, that's what I'm saying. I mean, look, I think from an
accountability perspective. Yes, you need to make a change
like that the, the offensive line.
And it's not a, you know, I don't even think it's an effort
thing. I just think it's a skill and
development and skiing thing. I'm sure the guys are Trying
their best but they are in many cases, they are, they're not
capable Big, Ten level offensive, linemen or and or
they are playing in a system that is unable to pass block or
unblock consistently. And it essentially like, you
know, Zack austrians piece in the star today is really good
because it touches on a bunch of this.
And, you know, he brings up that old, Kevin Wilson quote about,
you know whatever you whatever you want to call your.
Offense, you're not going to have an offense, if you can't
block for it. And ultimately, there's there's
just too many holes in what's going on?
And there's too many gaps in in protection and coverage and
everything and that is you know, you should have a change from an
accountability perspective just like there should have been a
change at the offensive coordinator position last year
because that offense was was horrible and that was more of a
systematic thing. But the problem is more
fundamental, it's not just changing.
The coach is going to fix it all of a sudden and I, this was, I
think it was Dustin. Mentioned this in his piece,
like you're talking about, you know, like a multi A rebuild of
the offensive line. Now you're basically starting
from scratch with what looks and I haven't looked at every single
lines numbers in the Big Ten, but this looks like the worst
offensive line in the conference.
It might be the worst offensive line of a power five school
right now. It's it's, you know, I mean you
may be Colorado's got a worst one, there might be one or two
other teams but your I mean when you're in that company, that's a
real problem. And I think this is been a weird
aspect of the Tom Allen era. Is that he's not necessarily
acted proactively about problems.
That seem pretty clear and obvious, you know, not just to
people like you and me who aren't experts per se.
But just looking at numbers and statistics and and looking at
how you rank against all of the competition that you're playing,
we saw that with the first two years of offense, with IU under
Mike deboard. Where, you know, it was clear
that there was a real problem. And that, you know, that's got
one of those situations. It's one of those situations
where we create a problem that then gets kind of randomly fixed
with this hiring of a new offensive coordinator.
It looks good for a season and a half, is a little bit of carry
over there. I don't know, it's really
fascinating because I, I don't know that Alan has demonstrated
yet that he's able to make consistently good.
Proactive, decisions about The composition of the coaching
staff and the way that the team has put together and it's, I'm
not trying to be overly critical.
I'm just saying, like, you know, you look at this, all of this
that we're seeing right now, was pretty predictable.
And the idea that he had all of these meetings, with all of
these, all the players, and all the coaches and decided, like
actively decided, we're going to go back to war with this
particular setup. That didn't work well last year,
because I believe it's going to improve.
I mean, that was a real leap of faith.
That was a Gamble by Allen and it clearly hasn't worked out.
And that's so now it's like, I don't know what the answer is
Scott because there's there's really not much fixing of an
offensive line in the middle of the season.
And at this point, it's hard like I think you look at the
schedule that Indiana's got and you look at the inability to
just score points and it really does make me concerned about the
way the rest of the season goes. And I don't know what you do.
Like you're you're really your Verging into some dangerous
territory there because last year, the big story about this
team that we were told this offseason was a bunch of guys,
lost faith on the roster and that led to a bunch of transfers
at the end of the season. I mean, how do you keep Faith as
I you football, when you give a really good effort in the first
half against the top five team and then you just drifts away
because you're incapable of executing in the second half and
the end up losing by 21 that patterns more likely to Continue
the not. So yeah it's a big mess at this
point Scott and it's a real shame.
It was it was certainly not anything.
Anybody wanted to have happen and you just wish that.
Like you said, some different decisions had been made because
this was not unpredictable as, you know, as we as we thought
about things in the offseason. Well, it's you know, Alan has
said himself, he doesn't, he doesn't get involved in the
offense, he, you know, can't, you know, doesn't I don't think
doesn't know, but like he, he definitely defers a lot to the
offense of Coordinator on the offensive side of the ball and
this, it feels like when he starts getting asked these
questions. You'll very pointedly about the
offensive lines and all right, fine, I'll step in and deal.
He's just, you know, completely hands-off for the offense.
And it's the two things I will say is it's it's tough because I
hate to keep coming back to like it.
It's just ceases up the entire team, like the metrics of
yesterday's game may not be great with the way that Michigan
ended with the point total in the yardage, but you were there.
I mean you were there. I was there, did he?
Play great like they were playing tough.
They were, they were all over the place but it's like it's
when the offensive when the offense comes out and goes 3 and
out in, you know, less than a minute and put the defense back
on your, you're like Allen's hurting his own defense.
Like the it's just it's it's affecting everything in the team
and then where I get frustrated, this is something that's
honestly predates, Allen is always frustrated me with IU.
Football is again I go back to that those, you know, you had
three plays to score to try and score a touchdown to pass.
Passes and then just you know, a little handoff inside and the
line that keeps going to my head and I thought this is the entire
second half is like IU football, doesn't have the luxury of being
conservative. Like you just don't get to just
we're going to keep trying to throw with Bayes lack, it's like
alright, let's try more Crossing routes or like, are we got at
least do a run up the middle to keep him honest.
Like it's not working like none of this is working and there
does come a point and I'm again I cannot stress this enough.
Like I don't think any of these problems are based lacks issues.
I'm not sure I can. Evaluate based like a
quarterback at this point, not in a bad way.
I just I've not seen him really have time without being under
duress to be a quarterback, but so I'm not at all saying you
need to replace it. But I do think at some points,
like, could we maybe put somebody else under Center, just
who can run like maybe have a direct snap to jail and Lucas
like, and I'm not saying you go wild, but at some point, it's
like, guess what US just throwing twice and running once
as an offense is not working. Like we have two and a half
game. This is not Working.
I don't want to go down like this, like, at least let's
fight. And that well for three weeks.
Here's his here's the thing is what I do.
It's just we can't keep doing it but that we did this last year
and remember like the the passing game wasn't working and
and Tuttle ended up getting injured and they put McCully out
there who could run and the offense was even less functional
than it. Had been with Tuttle in there, I
get what you're saying. But look, having somebody who
can run is not. In to fix the lack of blocking.
It's just give you need blockers for that person to be able to
run. I mean, Michigan was absolutely
upending Indiana's line with four man Rush has yesterday.
I mean, it's not like, I just, I think to some degree.
People forget how much blocking is required to effectively, run
a bootleg, how much but blockings effectively required
to run an option. It's not just as simple as
saying that's roll the quarterback out of the pocket.
And so So I you know the other issue and this was something
that I think was partially due to Michigan just being a good
defensive team but was also due to the lack of real Playmakers.
Save one in the IU, receiving Corps is that it takes our
receivers too long to get open and they're running routes.
That are largely, I think too deep based on what the
protection will actually allow Connor basil act to throw, you
know. So you know by the time Get to 3
or 4 seconds, and the receivers are finally getting into a spot
where you might want to throw them the ball, they're either
not open because they're not capable of getting open or
basil. Acts protection has already
broken down and now he finds himself having to either eat it
or throw the ball out of bounds or throw an inaccurate pass.
I'm with you in that it's hard to judge.
Connor basil act as a player right now.
You know, I think if you look at his overall grades, when he's
not pressured, He's been all right you know I mean you look
at what he's done over over the course of the season and he's
gotten he was pretty good in the Illinois game and then he hasn't
really been great since then. But what's fascinating to me is
your he got essentially kind of recruited over or whatever you
got replaced. Essentially at Mizzou, he was a
much better better quarterback last year by the numbers than he
has been this year. I don't think that's because
Connor Bane's like got significantly.
Worse. I just think it's because he's
playing behind the significantly worse.
Offensive line and I get what you're saying, but I you can't
block to run with running backs. Why would they suddenly be able
to block to run with a quarterback like I mean that
that might work for a couple of plays and then that person might
end up getting maimed because as we've seen now I you tries
something, it works for a player to and then the other team
adjusts and that's it, that, that trick is over at that
point. Yeah, I think that's it's it's a
fair point. I just at a high level.
It's just frustrating seeing us trying to kind of play a
conventional game and just getting ground down.
Like, you know, I'm not even saying put a runner back there.
I'm just like, you know, this was something but who come on,
but who. But who would you put out there?
You know, I don't know what I'm saying is like, this is where I
feel like I'm on an island but there is, there is glimpses of
this. And the bill in share were built
Lynch would just run weird sets, or he'd have liked Run it wide
receiver scatter in the side or just like, so I'm not even
saying you do that and it's like, it seems like we need more
unconventional play colleague. We just, we need something, I
don't know what it is, but I definitely know that I'm not
seeing it on the field because as you said, it got to a point
in the second half where it's like Michigan's, all right,
we're just gonna, you know, our front line is going to be able
to put pressure and then we'll just use every third player s
play. We'll just Blitz one more, dude.
It's like he's gonna get straight to the base.
Like, it, it, it's anyway. I don't No, I don't know.
The answer is but it's tough because it is such a problem and
I don't see it solving anything. But again the I think the thing
that should be concerning for everybody is all of these
problems really really all show up after halftime.
So is it just are we getting that much tired?
Is it Michigan's T meal? I can understand the idea.
Alright Michigan's got a better backup system than we do, you
know overall better team. It's like I guess anything about
Nebraska like same thing about Cincinnati like we've You know,
Michigan's an elite team Nebraska's a mess team
Cincinnati's, a middle-level TV, kind of have all levels there
and you're seeing the same thing over and over again.
Is that we come out of halftime and it's like the other team has
figured some stuff out or they're just pushing harder and
then we completely seized up on offense in the second half.
And that's that's very concerning because last I
checked I think all the rest of our games are scheduled for four
quarters. I don't think we're playing any
games at halftime and so You know, this does also beg the
question, what, what are other teams seeing that they're
adjusting to? And what are we not seeing and
not adjusting to? Yeah, well, I mean, I don't even
know if it's adjustments. I just think I, you goes into
every game with a limited amount of things that they can do
effectively and when they burn through those, and when the
opponent sees all of them, that's kind of it, you know.
And then it's a matter of can the opponent make enough plays
and this is essentially what happened to the Nebraska game.
The opponent make enough plays to get far enough ahead that
Indiana is just not able to execute.
I mean, the negative yardage in the fourth quarters of these
last couple of games has really been out of.
I mean, it breaks your brain to think about and, you know,
there's not a lot you can do about it right now as a fan
because there doesn't seem to be a lot that the team can do about
it either. They just have a limited
reservoir of ideas and a limited Reservoir people who can execute
the ideas and that's That's unfortunate and it's kind of the
worst case scenario. And you know, to some degree.
It's like you're really have to be thankful that Indiana got
Illinois and week one because I think it allowed them to pull
enough things out of the bag that they were no, no, I didn't
know how to adjust there. Wasn't any film on what Indiana
was doing on the offensive line with the passing game.
I think if you play Illinois, now I think Indiana loses that
game. Pretty handily both because
Illinois has really put together a really Season already, they're
probably going to be ranked today, but also, because I think
Indiana was found out very quickly, and it's a slightly
better offense than last year. I mean, this year's offense is
not in danger of scoring in double digits for the entire
conference season. I think they're already up to,
like, 54, 56 points, and they've got six games left to play.
So it is an improvement over last year.
I just what I when I watch this team and they were trying
different things, you know, they had a lot of sets against
Michigan. Where they had everybody
basically within the boxes. You know, they were bringing the
wide receivers in they were trying to disguise their
movements. They were, you know, they had a
lot of good stuff where they were throwing to the right side
short and then allowing people to block in front including that
touchdown that got called back at you know, towards the end of
the first half but you can only do that for so long like other
teams are going to look at that. And they're going to say, oh if
we stop this they don't really have a plan B and that's just
How it is at this point? I mean, your I think this IU
team could win another game. Maybe two, but probably only one
because they're you know there might be a team or two on the
schedule that has enough problems of their own that they
can't capitalize and it's to me it's the biggest Shame about
this is if they'd gotten this defensive effort last week I
think they would have probably beaten Nebraska you know,
because they maybe don't give up the early touchdown and maybe
they don't give up one of the late touchdowns but then when I
think that I'm like that would still have required them to move
the ball and get into a position to score and that's where to me.
The biggest obstacles are at this point and I don't know, I
don't know if they're fixable and that's, it's a shame.
It really is when you hit something on the pregame that I
thought was a really, really good point that, you know, I
also don't want to hear anything else.
The rest of this year, I started hearing a little bit in the
postgame of Michigan, that, you know, listening to Fisher on the
drive. Home talking about, you know, a
lot of injuries and was tough when you have this many
injuries. It's like listen like that.
That's part of it. But you brought up the point
that this team is already, had a lot of good luck like this team.
Could honestly be one in five right now.
The Illinois and Western Kentucky games were both kind of
good luck games like those were 50/50 games that we already won.
So you kind of can't use the man just you know, Bad season like
snake B. Like no we're not snake bit like
we've already had a lot of good luck this year if we could get
some bad luck or some injury, Problems that kind of puts us an
even. And so I think that's a very
valid point but I also it's like this is as you know, high-level
a lot of questions. You know, talking people
yesterday kind of stay the program.
Where are me? You know, it's tough a lot of
those, you know. Hey, it's just tough.
You a lot of guys are out and came Jones, what you gonna do?
It's like it's tougher and tougher to do those to talk
about those things when you're coming off of a 2 and 10 season,
like that is what the last year does is.
There's just there's so much less room for very variance and
it's also like at some point. If you can't keep like I at some
point this work. I'm getting unhealthy.
Everything. I just don't care.
I can't go two and ten three and nine every single year.
And even if excuses are 100% valid, it's like I just get
tired of hearing it. I think that's where we're set.
Sadly veering into. And you know, the really scary
thing that you also alluded to is, I don't know.
There's a, there's not a fix this year for the offensive
line. But even as you know, like we
said, if they make a change to the offseason, it's not sudden
like all right. Well, you know, I think.
I'm gonna definitely, you know, you know, challenge, Ohio State.
It's like that. That solves a, you know, we have
a boat with like 17 holes. It's just like we're trying to
fix the one biggest hole but offensive and takes like he
said, 23 years to fix. We are at rock bottom.
And so I even if you make a wholesale change at offensive
line even if you know bring in a whole new transfer portal class
in the new coach I think is probably going to be a couple
more years for the offensive line is functional mid-level,
Big 10. So it's like what is our
long-term goal here? This is what rat like it.
It's very, it's a frightening proposition.
And again, I was going into this game expecting to lose, but it's
just seeing complete ineptitude in the offense in the second
half, that's just tough. Not knowing what the solutions
are feeling. Like I'm not sure that our
coaching staff knows what the solutions are because I'm not
sure there are solutions. Yeah, it's I don't know, I
thought about that a little bit after the game.
It's like what I felt better if they had just lost if they'd
been Then give they'd gone down Thirty one to ten and its core
or 31 to nothing and it's scored 10 points towards the end.
Would that have been? Yeah, a more optimistic feeling.
Look, I don't come out of this game like Angry at the team
because I, you know, they weren't going to win and I
talked about that in the, in the pregame a Michigan's, a really
good team and Indiana, isn't, you know, I think where it's
frustrating though, is just watching how not prepped permit,
Preps, The wrong word I think but how how far away Indiana is
from being able to play competitively for 60 Minutes
against a team like Michigan. Because as we've talked about
many times you take away 2020 the covid year and I you you
know, essentially goes through another season where they're not
able to pull off a victory against a top-level team in the
conference. And that really does get
frustrating after a while because we've seen in other
programs be able to do it. And I think what makes it more
the most frustrating about this program is that it felt like
they had gotten closer to that level where they could be a
dangerous team that could pull off an upset.
And there was nothing in this game that said, you know, that
it was going to be an impossibility.
If I you pulls it together and plays really well but you just
had this sensation in the back of your head or at least I did
that. I you at some point was going to
pull the rug out from underneath themselves by not doing Some of
the fundamental things that needed to be done and that
really is unfortunate, you know? So look, I when I look at this
game, I think that the effort was really good and yet, I don't
know how much of that effort and that up for the game.
This mentality wise that we saw out of this team in the first
half is going to be rough located in, you know, next
week's game when they're playing Maryland.
That's not you know I mean Maryland they're not going to be
ranked and you know, I Just don't think you'll see the guys
up mentally and emotionally at the same level to play Maryland
that they were to play Michigan. And that's kind of the kiss of
death because, you know, you look at the slow starts that
have been deviled this team since the start of the season
and then you look at the Michigan game and you're like,
wow it would have been nice to have that kind of on the ball in
this right from the start, in a couple of these other games
including the Nebraska game, maybe that ends up changing
things up. So I don't know.
We'll see what happens. You know this IU team continues
to struggle. In the on the offensive side and
I just don't know that there's a lot of fixes for that you know,
it's easy to say well why doesn't Walt Bell dial-up
display or that play? And I just don't know that it
matters if you can't. If you can't block, I don't know
what you could dial something up, it will get diagnosed and
addressed by the opposing team's defense, and then you're
basically back to square one and it's fair to.
It does feel like a weird, you know, medieval torture device
that this team starts for the most part slow, even against
Michigan. We still did not have Heavily.
I'm not sure. We've had a lead to start the
game, any game this year? I think we've been down every
single game, so you already have a, you know, you're getting
pushed on one end and now, it's like after halftime.
I'm not sure if we can expect more than three points, so it's
like, you're getting squeezed to this like, we gotta win the game
from the middle of the first quarter till halftime.
If you have a 13 and a half minute window that it feels like
we have to win the game, it's tough.
Do you mind if I talk larger scale but a couple other random
things. Yeah.
Go ahead, please. I know this.
With comes up, but we were both kind of joking on Twitter about
this a little bit. I love my side.
Modify, you fans like there were, there were Michigan fan
sprinkled, and it's to be expected, you know?
Students, this is a great showing.
They not only showed up, they stayed through halftime, which
you I haven't seen in. I can't remember the last game.
I saw students. Stick through that with that
many people staying through. That's great, The Faculty side,
the other side. Side of the stadium that I stare
at was like, 95% Michigan. So a lot of those people.
So their tickets but this is where you don't hear it as much.
So it's a bit of kind of a, you know, straw man argument I'm
making here but just the idea of like 0iu fans, you know, like
you once hysteria stars, all they care about is basketball.
It's like I'm tired of that. Like fans showed up students
showed up, like people were there, there's support for this
team and yeah, it's going to Wayne because at some point,
people just find better stuff to do the weather gets funky and
it's like, I'm just I'm tired of watching the same thing but You
know, coming off of a tune 10 year and a team that had lost
two in a row, playing a Michigan team that you know, you're a 22
Point Underdog for that was a great crowd.
Like that was a great, great crowd.
And so I just, I want like five years reprieve from hearing
about fans support and it's like, it's got to be the team.
The question I have for you is we park in lot 9, we were not
able to make it around to the South End Zone.
I'm just curious about. If you made it over to game day,
I know you were there. Little bit on Friday, some of
the work you already do. Like, I'm just curious any
thoughts on the, the big college, you know, Gameday, Fox
set up that they had and anything you heard from that or
just for people who weren't there, just share what it was
now. I mean, I mean, the setup was
nice. I didn't, I briefly kind of was
able to poke my head over there. It was, it was a good setup
overall. I just it's tough because IU is
not used to hosting those sorts of things, I think.
And so, you know, I had heard that it was To get the crowd,
fired up to some degree but that's, you know, this.
It's just I think there's an awkwardness to some degree with,
you know, trying to get. I you fans to especially younger
fans to get like really fired up in public about IU football
because it's, I mean there just hasn't been a whole lot to grab
onto in terms of success the last year and a half.
You know, I wish that we'd had that, like, at the very
beginning of last year. I think that it would have been
pretty impressive and you would add a lot more people out there.
But the Set itself was kind of a cool little thing that a couple
of different stages kind of between two control boxes, one
of the which was elevated. So know I look I thought overall
I would hope that they come back.
It'll probably only be for when Michigan or Ohio State are
playing is because Michigan seems to be like the the go to
big noon, Saturday, 18 weeks, three weeks in a row.
They've been like, they're just traveling, if they should be
like, Michigan's big noon Saturday.
Yeah, exactly. But I know I was, I mean, look,
I thought the Overall, atmosphere was pretty good, you
know, not just for that but the overall outside atmosphere and
even in a stadium, like you said, I mean, I think the
students deserve so much credit, this is amazed two years in a
row. Now that students have packed
Memorial Stadium and stuck around at Louisville's.
I can't ever remember. I mean really, I mean, I think
back, you know, in my own student experience and now
having been in Bloomington for a while and Watching people coming
into the stadium. It's just really, it's jarring
in a good way to watch this many students wanting to be there.
And I think what we're seeing is there is a real appetite for
successful football. There's a bunch of students who
really want to get behind this team and I just wish that they
were getting a better product to root for at this point.
And, you know, and unfortunately as you said, now we head into I
think next week, you know, will probably be the last.
Full student crowd. Hopefully not hopefully they
don't, they don't lose too many people and it'll be easier next
time because it's a 3:30 kick as opposed to being a noon kick.
But after that, you know, the home games kind of their they're
clustered in November and that's just a rough time to go and it
depends on the weather and and again, as you talked about in
the pregame, everybody kind of has their mental list, their
mental moment where it's like, I think the season is lost.
I think it's time to Kind of pack it up and it does feel like
next week is going to be for a lot of people that week.
Yeah. It's it's just a shame.
We'll see what happens though. I mean the, the students I
thought did a really good job overall and I was glad it's nice
to have that kind of support in the stadium.
It really is and and I was sorry, one last thing.
It's just you know, this is where you said it that.
It's like I've not seen students support like this for quite some
time and it's See it stay. I've seen the student section,
get packed. And it's like, even in close
games, people leave it half time, it's just kind of always
been the way it goes, they State, like there was a I've
seen games are were ahead and half a student section leaves at
halftime. It's just kind of girl, so it
is, they stayed through that place was packed to the entire
home. Coming through the entire
Bandit. I don't honestly remember the
last time I saw it that packed up to 27 28 section, you know,
the section 27, 28, during the halftime show.
And to me, this is the opportunity cost lost.
Just if you can't keep it, if you get into some of the dark
circles that you and I can get into when we talk, I you
football, it's like there's this thought of like, well, you know
who cares because you know, they know I you knows that no matter
what they're going to get like thirty seven thousand people
every year and it doesn't really, you know, there's a
floor of what they're going to get, but if you can't
functionally put a competitive product out there, to me, it's
like this is what you lose. Like you're losing this
interest, this this fire. And It's there right now.
The Embers are burning and if you just let it die and like I
was going to get, you know, the core 36,000 suckers were buying
tickets every year and like they know they're never going to, you
know, go under that, it's like but you're losing this.
Well then tell me what, like it. So it's yeah, this is what
bothers me is like we have a real fire and this is the people
who were there. These are the people.
These are the donors that you need in 15-20 years that we
don't have because we have. Anyway, I'm off on a tangent.
No, but I mean something there there.
To some degree. It's kind of the argument that
has been made about IU basketball over the last 10-15
years. It's like the product hasn't
been great. I mean and you've had individual
good moments in there, but people develop lifelong affinity
for sports teams when they win when they're successful.
Now, you can still, you know, obviously you and I are both,
are you football fans and that formed absent of a lot of steps
really screwed. I didn't work, but I do think
that, you know, people make decisions and look a, a really
good. This is what made that 2020
season in the way that it played out.
Obviously, it wasn't much. They could been done about it,
but it was such a shame because to beat Michigan at home to beat
Penn State at home, and not have those winds come in front of
fans. That's, that's really
unfortunate. Now, you know, I will say this,
the, the home fans this year, the students have gotten three
good. Well, to good weather games.
And then the No game, I guess but they've gotten three wins
and those were fun games. And so it's not like you're
leaving empty-handed and I think to some degree, those early
successes are probably a reason why students are showing up now
still and maybe they will continue to do so, and I hope
that they do. But this has been the age-old
issue with with IU football is that people come to school?
And they're like, oh, I should go to football games because
while I'm at College, of course, I would go to football games and
then They go and it's often disappointing and there's not a
lot of success and there's not a lot of winning and it becomes a
less important thing. You know, what's important with
battle is Men's Basketball that I think is going to be
fascinating to watch is, how does how does the overall lack
of success of the last 15 to 20 years?
Manifest 10 years down the line or 15 years down.
The line are people less invested in IU.
Men's basketball are people more invest and I think this is
clearly happening with IU Women's Basketball.
Because of the success that they've had, and the fact that,
you know, those are games that students go to as well and
you're starting to really see a Groundswell not just in terms of
current students being interested in that team but also
young lumps being interested in that team and it's a completely
different set up from a fan base perspective from what it was
say, 10 years ago. So look, it would be great to
gift. This IU student body who has
shown up and has really done a good job at the games with some,
some He's down the stretch here or at least some competitive
games in the fourth quarter and we'll just have to see what
happens with that. You know, I think Alan's done a,
you know, is that a better success rate on that than some
of the previous coaches? I mean, you know, you go back
and you think about some of the Winds Indiana was able to rack
up at home in 2019, you know, I think those were those were
helpful and, you know, even in the, you know, even in the games
that we saw last year, I mean, the Cincinnati game was at least
competitive in the Michigan. State game was was certainly
competitive, but you're gonna have to put some wins on the
table at some point to keep people excited in the program.
Overall not just alums and because I think with football
it's got to come from the students because most alums are
pretty Jaded by IU football because they've dealt with this
over and over again and you and I are good examples of this.
I mean if we if we come across as bitter or or jaded on the
podcast, I mean it's just Decades of essentially watching
this. Anything, I mean, Dustin Dopey
Ragan is Q&A today, you know, and he's done this for a couple
of weeks. Now keeps mentioning like they
this team is program seems to find new ways to break the fans
Hearts, like, every single time they go out and it really does
feel that way. It's tough.
As a, you know, somebody who's in the alumni base for a
student. It's it's like, well, I don't
know if this is something I really want to get fully
emotionally invested in because this does seem to be a repeating
pattern. And so that's where you'd like
to put something positive in front of them so that they build
better memories and just a quick book at him sitting there at the
game with my friend, my friend Jeffrey, you know, we're just
like talking about like you know the house this game get in and
we start real like oh like remember the other dinar Denard
Robinson, like the non holding called Los, I got that one
sucked. Like what all the the bolts will
possession like throw your gum and about that one is like oh
remember the time we had the fourth in the fourth and goal
and we lost its like we start rattling down all of like, like
I wonder how we're gonna remember this loss.
This is like the middle of the third quarter.
Yeah. But you You go to that place,
where it's like, I've seen so many of these Michigan games
where it and you're right, you just, you become jaded.
These are kind of cataloging, all of these and Michigan, seems
to be that team. That's like we're, they're
definitely an Echelon above us, but we seem to have all of these
like almost Kana, Shoulda Coulda Woulda.
I mean, Ohio state is just like they are a steamroller that I
don't have any memory outside of the penix 2020 game, where it's
like, oh, all these clothes. Like I remember a lot of 49 to
three losses, to Ohio State and Michigan.
See Seems to have this Litany of like games kind of like
yesterday where it feels like there's a shot at some point and
then it's like, oh no, I remember that game as we lost
this way. Anyway, a couple other things to
talk about, I guess before we wrap up, one of them is
obviously Hoosier hysteria happened on Friday, both the men
and the women getting some Justified publicity, an
interesting event. And if you got a chance to watch
any of it or see any highlights, I saw some highlights all some
stuff from, I saw the car Woodson In on Terry Moore in
separate car also. Cool, right.
Yes. I have a couple of thoughts, but
you go first because you were there, and I just caught it very
good. Little Snippets here and there
now. Yeah, I mean, it was, it was a
fun event to be at, it was not anything, like, what we've seen.
I mean, it was always kind of like, what we've seen the last
five or six years, but they definitely took some of the less
exciting aspects, like the dunk contest out of it.
Either a couple other things. They took out it was a very,
very tightly paced show. They started right at seven and
they were basically done with everything, but the short
scrimmage by 8:30, which was nice on a Friday night.
You know, look, I mean, I think it's hard to tell really yet
what we're going to see out of this IU basketball team on the
men's side, but I do think that You can't, I could tell at least
looking at General Hood Savino and Malik renew by the way, it's
apparently Malik renew, it's not Renault, we've been pronouncing,
it wrong all this time. So there you go.
These guys physically look like I will continue to pronounce it
wrong. Just I so Malik knows like Malik
just get ready, I've guess, I, yes, I can verify that.
Yes, Scott will continue to pronounce it wrong but look what
I found. Fascinating those guys look
physically. Like the class of player that I
use been trying to get more consistently throughout their
lineup, over the course of the last decade.
And you know, with very spotty success, I think, you know, I
mean Woodson I love Woodson's kind of, you know, just kind of
Carefree attitude that he exudes because it's there's clearly
he's clearly trying to construct something that might have some
positive aspects. Not just in terms of this year.
But just in terms of Kind of an overall cultural approach and
you know, he's clearly I think got an idea of what he wants to
do with this team. I'm really fascinated to see how
these players end up manifesting as a working unit and we got a
lot of time to talk about all that but this was a nice entry
point, I think because it was not really and I've been we've
been talking about this for a while now.
It was not really an event geared towards the fans.
Was an event geared towards recruits and that's really what
this sort of thing needs to be. You know, I think it's there's
an interesting philosophical thing with IU basketball, where,
you know, because Bob Knight was was very focused on trying to
keep things the way that he felt like they should be done, which
was largely based on that what his experiences were in the 50s
and 60s it created an environment where there's almost
like this repulsion, And towards doing things specifically aimed
at recruits like, well, no one man is bigger than the team and
you're applying for the name on the front of the Jersey, all
that stuff. Which look, I'm not trying to
denigrate that, but I do think that it puts you at a
disadvantage in a world where there's a finite amount of
really talented basketball players.
And there's a lot of programs trying to get those players.
And most of those programs whether it's Kentucky, or North
Carolina or Michigan State, you know, they they are Have been
able Kansas. They've been able to construct
environments that are geared towards recruits that the fans
are still a part of, but it's not about the fans, it's about
the recruits and that's kind of how I felt about this event
overall and I was fine with it and I'd like to see more of
that. And so, look, I think overall,
if you were a recruit in Assembly Hall, watching the
intros and watching, you know what?
I think, we're probably fourteen thousand people in the stadium
yelling and screaming. It was a pretty impressive
thing. And it's the kind of thing that
showcases what Indiana basketball can be, it can be a
national player. It can be a program that's
attractive to really good, basketball players, all over the
country. And I think more events like
what they did on Friday are going to help, they're not going
to hurt. You know, it's you may not get
recruits but it won't be for lack of trying, whereas I don't
know that we could have always said that before.
Yes, I do. Remember growing up in
Bloomington my dad and I would go to original midnight,
practice which used to be at midnight and you would bring in
a canned good to get in for free so bring like a can of creamed
corn. It was always funny because
everyone get all excited and you talk about not for recruits.
It was like Hey we're going to come out and do a three-man
weave where I got to talk to fans or go to a three-man weave
are going to a red-white scrimmage, then we're going to
get out and there's like oh, that was it, we just watched us
to do practice. Well, You could do that when you
had the entire college basketball World hypnotized,
which at that point bob Knight had that and he could run
things. However, he wanted and you know,
it's funny because I think most fans that are our age and even
fans and maybe you're 5 or 10 years younger, that's still how
it feels. Like it's supposed to be done
like, where you're supposed to run it that way and it feels
kind of weird to be getting into this space where you're kind of
nakedly, aiming it at trying to To, you know, make make the
players look like superheroes and all that stuff.
But the flip side of it is that you have to evolve and the
shadow like, you know, bob Knight the shadow of how he did
things. And the way that he tried to
approach, like all aspects of program control, still hangs
over this program. So heavily that, you know, they
should be able, I think to step in and do stuff like they did on
Friday without any Any consideration that perhaps,
gosh, maybe we shouldn't be doing this, like, this,
shouldn't even be a second thought.
It's like, of course, you do it this way.
And yet, I feel like there's going to be a group of fans in
the in the program or any, you know, in the in the larger fan
base, who probably are going to be somewhat dissatisfied with
every aspect of these sorts of things.
And look, we didn't get a whole like a big.
Look at the team and I'm fine with that.
Like, I don't, we'll see them in pre-season at the end of the
month. And I think that, you know, at
that point, that's great. I don't need to sit through a
practice to do, you know, I really just wanted to see some
excitement and they had some pyro in Assembly Hall and I
mean, it just was it was a nice event that didn't have to be a
basketball practice dressed up as something else.
No, I completely agree. There's somebody who's not into
work, really? I love that.
They do it this way and even if they were surprised, even if it
was the old days and practice like who's gonna get from a
chimera went to Jamaica last year.
It's like we're talking about all the stuff that go.
I'm really seeing some great. It's like none of that came to
fruition. It's like nah nah.
You can't delete anything, you can glean very little out of
those early practices anyway, so it's not like, I'm gonna see
that and be like, oh, I now we know everything.
It's like that's not going to translate to Illinois in
February. It's just, it's gonna be a
different world. We get to their, I love this and
it's not for me like you said, like, I and I just want it to
work to get good recruits here of which I don't know who they
are. I don't really care about the
process of 17 16 year old. I just wanted to work.
And when I see like, you know, they announced whoever, you
know, Gene ass or It was performing The iherb. 0g Hurt.
That's great. If I don't know who they are.
It's great. Like it worse they could be like
it's like oh Huey Lewis the news like that sounds like fun.
Wow. It's like that's not what you
want. Like I want to not know who the
hell is performing and to me, it's great.
No, I love the videos. I like the hype to me it's like
like you said, other programs are doing that.
So I kind of like taking the shackles off and let's see some
pyro in Assembly Hall. Like let's I'd like to see more
of that in the intros during the actual game.
The thing that I thought was funny just I also to I'm having
to push my own breaks a little bit because tie the stuff I saw
from you know Hood should be no seeing him just in little bits
of practice. He looks like the real deal.
We will wait, I need to wait and see any to see him in an Indiana
uniform in an actual game. I like seeing, you know, some
some comments from some Scouts and coaches who were there that,
you know, like he's he is the real NBA prospect on this team.
That's interesting. That the one thing that I
thought was it's just funny is I saw a comment where Tricia
Jackson Davis was saying like, oh, he's That's a one and done.
Like he's going to be a one and done.
I'm thinking to myself. So were you going into your
freshman year? You were a one and done.
Like everyone has said you are one and done in like it now
because of a variety of circumstances, like we're
looking at your four of you. So there's a part where I'm
like, I need to wait and see, but I will just say this, as we
look at the team, we know what we're getting with the
frontcourt and we know what we're getting with Xavier as our
point guard. You know, to me if Hood shh
phenotype, Truly is kind of the, the high level one and done
five, star player that, you know, were, you know, if he's in
a sphere of an Eric Gordon type, not saying he plays like that
but just at that level then the the ceiling of this team
drastically changes again. I'm not ready to say that yet, I
need to see it. I need to see it again, some
competition, like I'm very, very eager for that Xavier game now
because I think it's going to be a great test this early team,
but if he's there, if Malika Renew, thy God, I did.
You got Italy. Gotta is, is close to that to
like those that's where this team is going to be very
interesting. I think we have a lot of areas
where we know some constants like obviously want to see Trace
shoot more threes, I think between race and Trace.
I feel very comfortable. That I know what, what the
Baseline of what I'm going to get from them is and little
pieces around the edges, I think so.
Anyway, they are the key that I think can unlock a real
potential to this team and the early reports are good.
And that's not bad, it's good. It also doesn't mean anything
until we start getting into real games.
Now that's true. And look, I I'm just it's nice
to have. I will say it.
Got me excited for basketball, which I haven't really had a lot
of time to even think about it, but it was exciting to just have
the event, and I wasn't initially planning on going.
I ended up going my brought my, my daughter with me.
She had a really good time. It was good.
It was a good good event overall and I'm looking forward to a few
For now, when we actually get to watch them in a competitive
game, I'll be at the preseason game.
The last thing I'll say just I look at that Xavier game as key
because very, similarly to totally different circumstances.
But similarly, to the year that we beat Kentucky at home, I
looked at that NC State game. We played NC State on the road
and I remember just looking at it.
Like I if we win NC State were undefeated going into that
Kentucky game, and that that just changes the at.
It's going to add a little Notch to the atmosphere.
If we run defeated going into that game and I feel the same
way here about that game against North Carolina at the end of
November that if we can go into that game undefeated, not saying
if we lose the Savior, All Is Lost, but it's just, I think
there's a chance that, that game against North Carolina could be
a really special environment. If we're undefeated, if they're
ranked number one, not saying we have to win, but it's just it's
I hope we can go into that game undefeated cuz I feel like that
could be an environment like like we saw at Purdue last year
or that. He gave, you know, 12, 13 years
ago, it just it. The, the stars are aligning for
a really special Assembly Hall crowd that night.
Lot to look forward to should be fascinating, will be back later
on this week. With more podcast coverage we
should have a football preview up a little early this week for
travel reasons. But will also have some IU
basketball talk coming up we'll probably I mean we're in that
phase of the Year where the computer rankings start to come
out, you start to get like Ken pon.
Um will have his updated numbers.
Probably by like the third week of October I'm guessing there's
a few others that we could look at.
And I can moms can pump should do a thing like this where he
comes out in a car and as a pyro it's like I'm releasing the
schedule results like win probability, you know?
I would I would, I would watch that.
I would watch it, I watch it. Yeah, and look, there's some
stuff out there already. If you go to Haslam metrics.com,
which I'm a fan of, I think they've got Indiana 18th right
now. In terms of awe, Pensive
summary. And the think Debbie defense,
they're considered to be one of the better teams as well in that
system. So look just a lot of
interesting stuff to talk about with this basketball team.
I think there's going to be a some fascinating items to
consider in terms of who's playing and what role they're
playing in and all of that. And we'll talk more about that
throughout the course of the month.
And we'll obviously keep keep up with OU football as well as
there's still some season to play for 3 and 3 at this point
and desperately needing wins in these next two games to try to
keep their bowl hopes of float. It does just to the listeners,
know I'm going on fall break. So I it's going to be very tough
for me to to get in a post game next weekend.
So I may not be here and it's weird as I looked at it.
Like I will be back for the post game for Rutgers and two weeks.
And as I look at this, it's like I think the next time I talk to
you We will know exactly where the season is going like, it's
basic. I'm not going to talk to you for
a week, but it's going to be two games and doing the Rutgers
postgame. I think that we are going
that'll be a fun one or an interesting one, that will know
exactly where our arrow is pointed after these next.
So, the next time I talk to you Galen for football, we will have
a very clear picture of where this is going.
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