1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,120 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson cast 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Galen Clavio. Here it is, Wednesday night, 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,600 February. 5th We are a little under 24 hours after Indiana 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,000 got. Boat raced in Madison we're. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Going to talk about that primarily not a long podcast, 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,480 but felt. Like we needed to do a midweek 8 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,240 update on things and and a recap. 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,800 Where we sit after Indiana. Loses at Wisconsin again 1998, 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,680 the last time Indiana won up in Madison and as you. 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,240 All know a lot's. Happened since then. 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,880 But we're going to talk. About that and talk a bit about 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,600 where Indiana goes from here and some. 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Of the things that are most problematic. 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,880 I guess you could say heading into this next. 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Stretch of. Games and what what we should 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,360 think about and what we should. Expect first couple of 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,480 reminders. We've been talking about this. 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,800 On Twitter and a couple of other places and we've mentioned it on 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,800 the pod, but I just wanted to remind everybody we're going to 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,280 be. Back in Bloomington. 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,720 I'm here. I'm in Bloomington. 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 But our friends from across the Back Home network are going to 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 be here in Bloomington this Saturday. 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,960 At the upstairs. Pub starting at noon and 26 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,720 running. Through and after the IU 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Michigan basketball game, as we have. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Our back home network get together slash reunion. 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,040 We bring everybody home, or as many. 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,960 People as we can, so it'll be me at the upstairs pub and Scott 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,760 from. Crimson cast going to be there 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,480 as well. Around noon to one. 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,720 All the way through the game. If you went to the. 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Event last year that we had at the upstairs pub. 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,960 You'll know how the drill works. We're going to be talking before 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,800 the. Game we'll be. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,640 Doing some break insurance during commercials. 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,440 We'll talk at halftime. And then post game and. 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,680 That's always a lot of. Fun. 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,880 We enjoy seeing you. Folks out there, hopefully we 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,880 get a lot of you out there. We can hopefully celebrate IU 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,840 playing well at home in a game that they. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Desperately need to win and even if not. 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,040 We'll be able to commiserate and watch together if they don't 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,680 quite get to that mark. And then of course afterwards 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,280 we'll be joined by the crew from Assembly Call, at least most of 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,520 them. Ryan Phillips going to be there. 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Coach Town, Sony's going to be there. 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,000 I don't think Jared or Andy are going to be. 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Able to make. It but we're looking forward to 51 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,760 meeting with them and we'll do a little post. 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,640 Game and not. Really a podcast per SE. 53 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:37,960 But a live event and. You know if you've been to the 54 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,960 upstairs pub lately, you know it's the place to be. 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 If you haven't been to the upstairs pub, you will soon find 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,800 out. That it is indeed. 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,600 The Place to be The event sponsored by Jack Daniels Fire. 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,320 And the event. Itself will also be fire as 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,400 we'll have a lot of your friends and the people that you are used 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,960 to seeing and listening to on the podcast. 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,200 We'll talk. Some IU basketball, we'll talk. 62 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Some IU football, we'll talk. Some IU women's basketball. 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,120 As well and have a good time and that's really what it's all 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,000 about. Getting a chance? 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,400 To see you folks in person, whether it's during the game, if 66 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,080 you're not. Going or whether it's after. 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,560 The game, if you are going, we look forward to. 68 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Seeing you there. So again, we're going to start 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,840 around. Noon at the upstairs pub. 70 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:24,640 On. Saturday and of course just a 71 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:28,040 reminder to everybody, there's no cover at the upstairs pub. 72 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,440 It's always a cover free environment and they'll have 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Breakfast Club in the morning. They're going to get Breakfast 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Club going later than normal, which I think is actually good. 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,160 I think everybody needs the break, so Breakfast Club. 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:46,600 At 9:00 AM that day and. You're going to have a bunch of 77 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,440 stuff. Going on during that day that 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,680 you're going to want to keep an eye on. 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Also on Friday the day. 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I think they played fairly well 132 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,840 overall, but they did not play fairly well against Wisconsin. 133 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:23,640 It was very much A1 sided affair and was basically that from the 134 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,240 opening whistle. It was unfortunate because 135 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:31,680 Indiana really needed that game. They needed to stem the. 136 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Tide of the losses. They needed to get. 137 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,680 The confidence that they had in the Purdue game to translate 138 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,200 over to another tough environment, but not an 139 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,760 unwinnable environment. And. 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Instead, they reverted right back to a large degree to how 141 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,520 they looked. In the Illinois game, in the 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Iowa game, just. Not really with it and. 143 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,880 You know, they they let Wisconsin go on a 20. 144 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,760 Six to four run over the 1st 7 minutes or so of the contest. 145 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,360 They did chip away. They started playing a little 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,040 bit better. Defense, you know they got. 147 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,080 The lead down to 40 to 28, it was 4228 technically. 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,600 And then they took a basket off of the the board off of a Goal 149 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,320 10 that had been erroneously called on Omar Balo. 150 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,240 And they came out in that second-half. 151 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,840 And you thought, well, you know, someone in the studio for 152 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Peacock was like, well, they weathered the storm. 153 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,920 I was like, they didn't really weather the storm. 154 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,320 They were still down by 12 or 14, but at least. 155 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,360 The game wasn't a complete. Loss at that point and they had 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,640 a real opportunity to come out in the. 157 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Second-half and. Kind of due to Wisconsin, what 158 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Purdue did to. Indiana in the game on. 159 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Friday, which would be come out, play really hard, really be 160 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,040 aggressive, you know, try to chop the lead down to 8 or 6. 161 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,920 And and really make it a ball game. 162 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Instead, they went. Backwards and very quickly. 163 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,600 It was a 19 point lead again, 51 to 32, and from there, 164 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,840 Wisconsin. Essentially coasted at one 165 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 point. Wisconsin was up. 68 to 45 was a 166 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 23 point game with about 5 minutes to play. 167 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Indiana, as they did earlier this year, really put the press 168 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,720 on the 2nd and 3rd stringers at the very. 169 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,680 End of the game. Really played hard there and got 170 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,760 that lead whittled down to 12 good for. 171 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Analytics, which is nice. But as Zach Osterman said in his 172 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,520 piece in the Indy Star, the the the score line very much 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,600 flattered Indiana in terms of how they play. 174 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 They they were, it was not a 12 point game. 175 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,160 It was a 20 point game essentially, if not slightly 176 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,880 more than that. So let's talk a little. 177 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Bit 1st about the game The aftermath of the game with the 178 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,320 with Woodson's comments and and some disturbing. 179 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,520 But. Unsurprising trends we've been 180 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,240 seeing with those and then we'll talk a little bit about. 181 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Bigger picture stuff, so. You know the game. 182 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Itself I I think. One of the things that's worth 183 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,880 noting with this IU. Team is that they have really 184 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,600 shortened the rotation here. Lately, some of. 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,840 That's been due to injury. You know, they they've. 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,000 Obviously not had Kane and. Carlisle available Recently, 187 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Malik Renew was injured. He's been slowly. 188 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:11,680 Getting back some minutes, he ended up playing 17 minutes in 189 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:15,840 this Wisconsin game. But they've really relied on a 190 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 very small number of people playing a large. 191 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Number of minutes. Luke Goody came off the bench 192 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160 and played 35 minutes in the game last night. 193 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Anthony Leal's gotten a lot of run, although not nearly as much 194 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,000 last night. Trey Gallo is getting. 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,080 A lot of minutes off the bench. Omar Balo's played a. 196 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Ton miles Rice has been. Mostly. 197 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Consistent and then Mackenzie Mbako. 198 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,160 Is. You know, he's his minutes have 199 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,640 gone up and down, but that's kind of been the crew like that. 200 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,880 Particular group of players has. Been the ones that have gotten 201 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,880 the the lion's share of the minutes and. 202 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 From my eye it really does look like that group is. 203 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Exhausted at this point. You know, Goody, it's a road 204 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,360 game. You know, and, and he had a 205 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,520 better game against Purdue, I thought. 206 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 He played hard in. This one didn't have as good of 207 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,840 a statistical adding eleven points, 5 rebounds, 1 assists. 208 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,560 Two steals, you know Trey Galloway after. 209 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,080 Having a really. Good game against Purdue. 210 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Kind of backslid, you know it was good from the. 211 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Field at least from 2, and it certainly was better in terms of 212 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,320 the. Passes he was. 213 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Getting out there was 5 assists, only three turnovers. 214 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,480 But you know, you look across the board with. 215 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,000 This Indiana team and that. Particular group has really. 216 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,400 Gotten a lot of mileage. Over the course of the last 217 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,320 couple of weeks, Balo, especially as you know, over the 218 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,920 course. Of and Scott mentioned this on 219 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 the podcast we did this weekend. You know Balo. 220 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Had a. String where he played 34 or 221 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,040 more minutes. 5 consecutive games coming in. 222 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,000 To this Wisconsin. Game he only played 26 points 223 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,040 and and had. By far his worst. 224 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Offensive performance in an Indiana uniform and actually the 225 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,800 four. Points that Balo scored, you got 226 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,880 to go all the way back to January 4th of. 2020. 4. 227 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,480 When he was still in an Arizona uniform to find a game. 228 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Where he scored only four points. 229 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,280 And that was actually the only game it's it's fascinating. 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Like the last night's game, you have to. 231 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,920 Go all the way back to his sophomore year to find a game 232 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,120 where he scored fewer points. In a game and that was He scored 233 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,160 one point against Washington State in January of 23. 234 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,760 So Balo, as much as he got criticized earlier on this year, 235 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,640 has really stepped up over the. Course of the last several games 236 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,440 and. You know, for IU. 237 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Fans who might think that. He's, you know, overweight or 238 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,760 low effort or whatever. And, you know, with the 239 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,080 controversy surrounding the, the, the, the bar visit or 240 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,440 whatever like that, like Balo has played really well lately 241 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,320 and it's really been an important piece of the puzzle. 242 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,640 You know last night was the the 1st. 243 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Game in a while he'd had only like 6. 244 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:56,800 Rebounds total. You have to. 245 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,560 Again, you go back through the statistics and you have to go 246 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:03,720 back to the Gonzaga game to find a game where he had. 247 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Fewer. It's like 6 or fewer rebounds. 248 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,040 In the game so. It was an outlier. 249 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,600 From that perspective. There's a. 250 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,960 Strain with this team and. Last night started as bad as bad 251 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,880 as you could. I actually do think they deserve 252 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,040 a little bit of credit. For not completely giving up. 253 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,920 But they were also never. In the game to begin. 254 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,680 With and that is problematic. I don't know if. 255 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:28,360 Anthony Leal got. Injured or if he just you know 256 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,440 what just. Didn't fit in the. 257 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Plans but. You know his minutes, 258 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,360 essentially. Got gobbled up. 259 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,680 Last Night by by Luke. Goody, Trey Galloway and Bryson 260 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,400 Tucker, who had been. MIMIA. 261 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,560 For a while played 4 minutes against Purdue, who didn't play 262 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:43,920 the three previous. Games he did have a bit. 263 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Of an injury earlier, but it was. 264 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,800 Puzzling to come out and like watch him play as much as he did 265 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,600 in the Wisconsin game and perhaps there was an injury 266 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,600 there that. That we weren't totally familiar 267 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,920 with, but it was. It was a lineup and an approach. 268 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,960 It was out of step with the way. Wisconsin was playing. 269 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,120 It was interesting listening to the in game commentary and the 270 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,160 halftime commentary on Peacock I. 271 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Think it was Jordan Cornett made the point that playing Omar. 272 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Ballow for as many minutes as Indiana did. 273 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,800 Especially in the first half. Didn't make a lot of sense 274 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,080 because he didn't really fit within the. 275 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Flow of the game, but as Cornett pointed. 276 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,760 Out if you're going to. Play him there. 277 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,200 You you really got to run the offense. 278 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Through him and try to punish Wisconsin. 279 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,560 With his physicality and and with really shoving. 280 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,720 It into the post and Indiana really didn't do that. 281 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Balo only ended up taking three shots the whole game and Indiana 282 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,080 was really not looking. For him, Wisconsin did a pretty 283 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,760 good. Job of doubling him when they 284 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,200 needed. To but they. 285 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,520 Rarely needed to, and Indiana did not do. 286 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,560 Very much at all to. Get him in a. 287 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:53,320 Position where he. Could be an offensive threat. 288 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,640 So, you know, you look at all of that and you look at the way. 289 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,040 That the team played in general and it. 290 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Really just kind of felt like they were playing the greatest 291 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,560 hits but in reverse, you know, Bad 3. 292 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:10,520 Point shooting percentage only 7 for 27 on the game, 26%. 293 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,440 You know they shot OK from 2:00, but not nearly well enough to. 294 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,360 Compensate for the lack of. Threes they they didn't do a 295 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,960 wonderful job really in any other phase of. 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Things I mean they the other than. 297 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Assisted baskets was about. The only thing where. 298 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,920 You could really look at what I you. 299 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Did and say. OK, well, that that. 300 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Stuck out in a positive way statistically and you know you 301 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,960 look. Across the board, the biggest 302 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,120 problems were defensive. And you know, while Indiana's. 303 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,840 Offensive rebounding wasn't great. 304 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Their defense. Really let them down in. 305 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Terms of they let a good. Wisconsin team essentially get 306 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,360 whatever shots they wanted they. Did not turn Wisconsin over. 307 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,400 They didn't force turnovers. It was constantly turned the 308 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,400 ball over on. 9% of their possessions. 309 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,560 So they were letting Wisconsin. Get full possessions. 310 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,240 They were letting them get offensive rebounds, although not 311 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,920 as many as as perhaps one might have feared. 312 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,880 And Indiana, at the end of the day, just couldn't keep up with 313 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Wisconsin and what Wisconsin wanted to do. 314 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,480 And we had talked earlier. On in the week about. 315 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,880 How Purdue, like Wisconsin, was kind of. 316 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,640 A an extreme. Version of Purdue. 317 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,040 Better offensively, but much worse defensively. 318 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,200 And the only chance Indiana, I think had in that game to begin 319 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,680 with. Was if they were able to score 320 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,160 at a clip that would. Keep them in shouting distance 321 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,240 and Indiana just they didn't have the offense for it. 322 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,920 They didn't have a game plan. And I think. 323 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,920 That was the biggest confusion that I had, and maybe I'm being 324 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,520 a little disingenuous when I say confusion because it wasn't 325 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,520 necessarily I was confused, I was more just. 326 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Disappointed at how poor. Not just the effort was at times 327 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,720 on defense, but just there didn't seem to be a real 328 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,360 recognition about what was needed to be done. 329 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,640 And you know, you look at what Indiana allowed. 330 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,360 In terms of overall? Points per possession and this 331 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,880 was yet another game where Indiana. 332 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Was nowhere close to holding their opponent to. 333 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,000 A point per possession or less. You know the you look at the. 334 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,920 Six or the seven games that Indiana's. 335 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,160 Played here lately and they've. Lost six out of their last 336 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,640 seven. The one game that they won was 337 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,880 that Ohio State game. That's the only game in this 338 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:33,600 seven game stretch where Indiana has not allowed 1.15 points per 339 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,760 possession to the opponent. Offensively, that's just not 340 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,280 going to get the job done. Indiana has been a sieve 341 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,880 defensively and you can see the lack of connectedness that this 342 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,920 team has on the floor. You can see that they're not on 343 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,760 the same page with themselves with. 344 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,120 Each other with the coaching staff and it was so. 345 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Evident at the very. Beginning of this Wisconsin 346 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,840 game, unless Wisconsin didn't. Play great once we got past that 347 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,160 opening salvo and. You know, you can look at, you 348 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,080 know, the score that that existed there. 349 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:07,000 At the end of that run, that 26 to four run and you know you you 350 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,319 take that away and. Indiana won the. 351 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:14,359 Rest of the game, 60 to 50. But that's nothing to pat 352 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Indiana on the back on like Wisconsin, they almost looked. 353 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,160 Bored, I think I actually. Tweeted something like that. 354 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,520 They they really looked bored. With the game. 355 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,440 After they took that big. Lead and they kind of screwed 356 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,680 around and they would. Score in spurts, but they went 357 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,480 several minutes there without scoring at. 358 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,360 All I mean they scored at the 9 minute mark. 359 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,600 And then they didn't score again. 360 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,640 Until about the five minute and 42nd mark of the. 361 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,480 First half, then another stretch. 362 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,120 Between the five, 5 minute and 42nd mark and the three minute 363 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,440 mark where they didn't score at all. 364 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,200 And it's it's interesting thinking about. 365 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,400 You know, it could have been much. 366 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Worse if if Wisconsin. Had really been trying to prove 367 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,960 a point, and it really. Kept their foot on the gas. 368 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,480 It really could. Have been bad and when you think 369 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,400 about Indiana. At this point, you're really. 370 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Dealing with a team that just does not have. 371 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,200 A coherent approach to what they're. 372 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Doing on. Either side of the floor. 373 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,720 But I think especially defensively and you know, it's 374 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,040 much. Like a couple of games in this 375 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 stretch. I think you could almost say 376 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,440 that Indiana from the standpoint of. 377 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,920 Of what they did and whether they were able to keep it close. 378 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Or not. They almost are relying at this 379 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,280 stage on their opponent not executing rather than Indiana 380 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,800 stopping their opponents from executing. 381 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,880 And yeah, you'll have individual moments that will be. 382 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Better here or there, but. Most of. 383 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,280 The like the bulk of the game if you. 384 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Take the whole game in totality, Indiana's just not measuring up 385 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:50,120 and there's nothing that seems likely to change in that as far 386 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,200 as what Indiana's going to be facing with their next 4 387 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,800 opponents because their next 4? Opponents are all top 25 caliber 388 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,680 teams, at least in the. Metrics and Indiana doesn't look 389 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,200 like they're ready to play any of them that. 390 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Doesn't mean they're going to lose all of them, but at this 391 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,440 point they don't look ready to play a full 40. 392 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,360 Minutes against any of them. It's hard to reconcile. 393 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,960 The Wisconsin game with the games that Indiana played. 394 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,000 In the last two. Outings, even the Northwestern 395 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,280 game, you know, that was a seesaw sort of thing. 396 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Indiana ended up on the wrong end of the seesaw, But that was 397 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,280 a game of runs against the team that was not awesome, but 398 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Indiana was was close. Against Maryland they were. 399 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,160 Close against Purdue. They just weren't close against 400 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Wisconsin, and this is not. That special of a? 401 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,680 Wisconsin team. But it does look. 402 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,320 Like an Indiana team that has found. 403 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,400 New ways to be confused about what they should be. 404 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Doing is found new ways to not be on the same page with each 405 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,440 other in and, and this was where it manifested in a bunch of 406 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:53,800 different directions. So you think about what to 407 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,680 evaluate. Next, like what is it? 408 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,960 You know, a lot of people have kind of given. 409 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,440 Up I was. I was. 410 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,920 Talking to a couple of. People today didn't even. 411 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,280 Watch. Didn't even bother watching. 412 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,680 The game. Watched a couple of highlights 413 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,480 or caught the box? Score in the morning. 414 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,240 I felt. Like I needed to watch the whole 415 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,800 game so I could talk. With you folks about it, but the 416 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,720 the thing I think it's bothersome right now is there's 417 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,440 just a. Complete lack of any answers 418 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,840 coming from Mike Woodson when he's. 419 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,840 Asked to address what's? Going on with this team. 420 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,440 He he always opens by. Saying that it's on him. 421 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,200 He said that in this game, like, you know, they, they came out, 422 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,120 they, they came out with good intentions and then and then 423 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,600 they, you know, just weren't. Good and. 424 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,040 He was asked some question. About like allowing the the big 425 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,240 run at the start. And he, he, he says it's on him 426 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,520 and then immediately turns around and. 427 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,240 Just says our effort was terrible, which is very similar. 428 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,840 To the radio show comments he gave. 429 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,120 Last week, where he started. Off by saying well hey it's on 430 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:51,880 me and then just proceeded. To criticize the players. 431 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,120 For not playing hard enough even at this like the. 432 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,720 The flurry of threes at the. Beginning somehow the answer. 433 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,920 To that was that it was the big's fault that Ballo and Renew 434 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,880 were responsible for not guarding the threes that the the 435 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 bigs were taking. It's It's weird though, because 436 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,760 like, yes, Nolan Winter, who's 611, did hit a couple of threes 437 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,400 at the start of the game, but the. 438 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,280 Bulk of the damage done from long distance was not from 439 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,680 Nolan. Winter certainly wasn't from 440 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,120 Steven Crowell. Even though he did hit one at 441 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,480 one point, it was like it was Max. 442 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,120 Kluzman hit 2. Carter Gilmore hit three. 443 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,000 Kamari McGee hit 3. You know a lot of that. 444 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Dan Jantanji hit one. It was It was an odd response. 445 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,800 And you know, on the one hand, I'm not a big. 446 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Proponent of reading too. Much into what any coach says 447 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,600 about anything, a lot of coaches just kind of engage and auto 448 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,200 speak when they're in these situations but. 449 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,240 It it. Is really frustrating that Mike. 450 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Woodson, you know he'll he'll say it's on. 451 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,920 Me, but then the finger. Always gets pointed at the 452 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,840 players for a lack of effort or a lack of. 453 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Execution. Whether? 454 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,800 He's trying to say it's on me to get them to execute. 455 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,680 Better or not? The implication there is, well, 456 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,800 I'm going to say it's my fault, but then I'm immediately. 457 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,360 Going to point the finger in the direction of the players. 458 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,200 And I think especially criticizing. 459 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,560 Omar Bala, which he did. By name in the post game press 460 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,600 conference is is pretty unfair given the statistics and the 461 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,760 numbers and the minutes. That I read you earlier. 462 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,040 When you think about how much Omar Balo has contributed to 463 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,640 this team. Over the last. 464 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Five games, yes, they've lost those games, but it hasn't been 465 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,320 because of. Omar Balo, you know so. 466 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,440 Now. Malik Renu, you know, Renu 467 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,480 clearly does not look right. And I think everybody saw that 468 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,280 in the Purdue game. I think everybody saw that in 469 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,240 the Maryland. Game. 470 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,400 It was Mike Woodson's decision to start Malik Renu over Luke. 471 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,120 Goody, who has consistently outplayed Renu. 472 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,480 To turn around and criticize Malik Renu for not playing. 473 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,880 Well. Is a weird thing to do if if 474 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,520 you. Think that he's ready to play 475 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,120 and he's playing the way. That he's played lately. 476 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,080 You might want to re evaluate now. 477 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Renu did have a better statistical. 478 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,040 Game than we've seen recently at 6.6 rebounds that's not nothing 479 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,280 but defensively he's not there and hasn't been for a while and 480 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,840 and that. Predates the injury. 481 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,640 It's just kind of. It's disappointing. 482 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Because there's such a systematic lack. 483 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,840 Of consistency with this team, lack of connectedness, yes, that 484 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320 is on the coaching staff, but then just leave it at that. 485 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,520 You know the the the players that it's a rough. 486 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,440 Spell you know. Spell in general. 487 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040 I know a lot of people have had individual criticisms of players 488 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,960 in certain. Games. 489 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,200 And look, players are gonna have bad games like Miles Rice had a 490 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,280 terrible game. Against Purdue, had a fairly 491 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,560 good. Game in this game against 492 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Wisconsin, you know, I mean 10. Points was 3 for four from the 493 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,640 field. Hit 4 free. 494 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Throws had three rebounds had. 3 assists. 495 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Yes, he had three turnovers, had a steal. 496 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,360 I I mean. That's a. 497 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,280 That's a pretty. Decent. 498 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,800 Game from a point guard. Especially one that was coming 499 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,600 off as bad of a game as he had against. 500 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,840 Purdue, where everybody criticized him heavily, posed 501 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 game, You know I. I have a hard time. 502 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,400 With this. Constant pointing the finger 503 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,000 back at the players when? There's a through line in terms 504 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,600 of the lack of effort, the lack. Of connectedness, the lack of 505 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,960 effective game planning that. Runs all the way through last 506 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,560 year when a lot of these. Players weren't on the roster. 507 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Or weren't playing as major a role. 508 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,240 You know, it's. It's odd that that is the. 509 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160 Response. Across the board, like maybe 510 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,520 odds the wrong word. It's just there's got to be 511 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,600 different. Answers for that and. 512 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600 There's got to be. Different ways to address things 513 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520 and when you're. Doing it on in the. 514 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Post game press conference you might be able to brush off the 515 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,480 comments as not being that. Important when you're also. 516 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,440 Doing it on your radio. Show it becomes a pattern. 517 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,760 And when you've seen it in previous comments. 518 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,200 I'm curious like where does the buck stop with IU basketball 519 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,400 and. Constantly just saying I got to 520 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,160 get the guys over the hump as was said. 521 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Again, in the pregame radio, you're. 522 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,640 You're not giving fans anything. To go off of and yes I realized 523 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,000 for many. Fans, the ship has. 524 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,440 Sailed. They're out on the Woodson era. 525 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,560 They're they're just waiting for something different and but 526 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,000 you've still got to make an effort. 527 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,880 I think you still gonna make an attempt because I guess what's 528 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200 what's concerning about where everything's at now. 529 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320 And we talked about this. A bit over the weekend. 530 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,960 Is this continues to spiral? And this is now yet another 531 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,560 season. Where IU is swooning at? 532 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,680 Exactly the wrong time. You lose. 533 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Six out of seven games. Last year. 534 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Indiana as we know. You know, last. 535 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,800 Seven out of nine games right around the exact same time. 536 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,200 You know the obviously the. Trace Jackson Davis is senior 537 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,600 year. They didn't have that. 538 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Swoon, but they did lose 3 out of five. 539 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,520 In in late. February in 2022, they lost 540 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,920 seven out of their. Last nine in the regular season. 541 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,360 This is a pattern with Mike Davis's. 542 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:14,920 Teams and it just it like there just seems to be a lack. 543 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Of self reflection with Woodson about why. 544 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,560 This might be happening and. This is where you know, and 545 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840 again, many people have pointed this out, but Woodson. 546 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,920 Clearly knows a ton about. Basketball, it doesn't appear 547 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,920 like he's got. Quite the same command of 548 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,800 college basketball. Because when I hear him. 549 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,280 Talking about. Players or criticizing players 550 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,360 or the way that he talks about certain. 551 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,480 Things and then essentially points the finger. 552 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Back at the players it. It's not a system. 553 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,920 That works particularly well at the college. 554 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,800 Game, especially when the problems. 555 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,640 Are not a whole lot. Different than they were in. 556 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Last. Year or in the 20. 2122 season. 557 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,280 It's the same types of problems. It's the same sorts of issues. 558 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,440 It's the same kind of seesaw. Except I'd argue it's worse 559 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,640 because now the. Defense, which I think is the 560 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,320 thing that stands out the. Most over a long. 561 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,480 Period of time in terms of the impact a coach is having on the 562 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,120 way that his team is playing. You know, you, you look at that 563 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,280 20/21/22 stretch where they lost. 564 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Seven out of nine, and they were in most of those games and they 565 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080 were playing pretty good defense in most of those games. 566 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,880 They had a couple that got away. They they had the. 567 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,120 Game in East Lansing. That got away that year, you 568 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,000 know, but they, they had a, they had a really, you know, they 569 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,640 lost in. Overtime at Ohio State. 570 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840 They lost by 8. At Northwestern, they they 571 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,600 weren't getting blown out in in pretty much any of those games 572 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,000 except for the Michigan State one and even that was a 15 point 573 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,520 game and the the. Program continues to drift 574 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,760 further. And further away from having. 575 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,320 A coherent ideology when it comes to. 576 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,640 How it's being played, the game is being played and. 577 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,240 I just I would like. To hear some kind of 578 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040 acknowledgement of that, but it just kind of goes back to 579 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760 something that. That I've had a feeling on for a 580 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,880 while. I think a lot of people share 581 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,880 this. Feeling which is like. 582 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,240 There doesn't appear. To be a clear understanding of 583 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,600 why things aren't going well with this team on the part of 584 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800 Mike. Woodson And that's, I think, a 585 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,360 big reason. Why things continue to spiral. 586 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,520 Looking forward for Indiana. What do they got in? 587 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,480 Front of them. Michigan at home at Michigan 588 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,440 State next Tuesday. UCLA at home and then at home. 589 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,480 Against Purdue, 8 days. Or nine days after. 590 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,120 So they have a a. Big break right after 591 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,440 Valentine's Day that lasts until the 23rd. 592 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400 You know when you look at that. Grouping of games. 593 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Actually, Indiana could win three out of those four, and 594 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,680 it's the three home games. I think the Michigan State game 595 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,000 is kind of a bridge too far. Michigan looks good, which. 596 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,280 Michigan's not unbeatable and we've seen teams. 597 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Play poorly on the road. In the conference, does Indiana 598 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,080 have what it takes to make things work? 599 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120 I, I, I don't think that they do at this point, you know, but 600 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Michigan's not invincible. I mean, an, an Oregon team that 601 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,960 frankly has been not that exciting. 602 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,040 They've lost some home games. They've, they've struggled. 603 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,400 They went into Michigan and. Lost, but they only lost by 4. 604 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Points. Michigan probably should have 605 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,760 won that game by more. The game at Michigan State, like 606 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,360 I said, is a tough one. The game at home against UCLA, 607 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,680 that's a schizophrenic UCLA team. 608 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,720 I mean, they, they beat Michigan State last night and, and looked 609 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,560 really good doing it and they've been on a nice little string 610 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,760 here. Lately, where they've started 611 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,280 to. Gather like 5-6. 612 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,840 Really good victories in a row, but the the two Rd. games they 613 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,440 played that they won, one of them is at. 614 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,200 Washington, which is not a tough place to play right now, and the 615 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240 other one was at USC. Which is a bus ride across Los 616 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,480 Angeles. There are way games in 617 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,400 conference so far outside of the the Pacific teams. 618 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,080 Cause the the other Rd. Game that they've won in the Big 619 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,360 10 is Oregon. They won that game by. 620 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,600 Two earlier on, but they got they they lost by 8 at Nebraska, 621 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,320 they lost by. 18 at Maryland. They lost by 7 at. 622 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,920 Rutgers, this is. Not a team that. 623 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,200 Plays well on the road where they have. 624 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,760 To travel long distances. And that's been a reciprocal. 625 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,640 Issue like Michigan State went out to LA. 626 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,640 Lost both of those. Games to USC and UCLA and 627 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Michigan State was a top ten team going into the weekend. 628 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,600 So and then you get to that. The Purdue game. 629 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Indiana played Purdue pretty well. 630 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,080 I don't know how well Purdue's going to travel. 631 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,920 So like a lot of people. Have been like, well, Indiana's 632 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,320 not going to win another game this season. 633 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360 Indiana's, you know, they could, they could lose out and miss the 634 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,560 Big 10 tournament, I think. All those things are unlikely. 635 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,360 I actually think Indiana's got a chance. 636 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,680 Here if they put it together a little bit. 637 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,960 Where they could win. Two or three. 638 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,640 Of these next four games. Which doesn't really change. 639 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,240 Much at this point. But. 640 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,360 It it is going to be interesting watching Indiana react and I do 641 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 wonder. You know, you look at the the. 642 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,400 Disconnectedness with this IU team. 643 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,720 Do they? Figure out a way to piece that 644 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000 back together again. Against teams that play good. 645 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320 Defense and. Who have a good coherent? 646 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,200 Offensive philosophy? My guess would be no, but my 647 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,120 guess is also like I don't see this team losing 8 games in a 648 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:30,080 row and. It's it's going to be for me. 649 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,120 At least as an intellectual exercise, it's going to be 650 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,640 interesting to keep an eye on. For most people, I don't think 651 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200 it's going to be particularly. Interesting to watch and and. 652 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,320 This is the. Problem. 653 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,400 It's like at this point even the. 654 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,440 Diehards have largely tuned. Out and said get me to the end 655 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,640 of the season. So that's that's where. 656 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,320 Indiana's found itself and. I would love. 657 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Anything from the coaching staff from Mike Woodson to maybe give 658 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,000 people some hope about hey, here's what's going wrong. 659 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200 Here's specifically what we're trying to fix. 660 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040 Maybe have it reflect in your substitution patterns or who 661 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,680 you. Start or. 662 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,200 Something you know, there were some baby steps against 663 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,640 Wisconsin. They did start Luke. 664 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,680 Goody and Trey Galloway in the second-half Which? 665 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Something they didn't do in the Purdue game, they went back to 666 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,120 the line up, but. You know, at this stage, Indiana 667 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,720 just. Lacks. 668 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 They lack guard depth. They lack. 669 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,720 Defensive connectivity They lack an offensive plan that can 670 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,600 effectively change against your. Versus the opponents that 671 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,800 they're. Playing and and what they're 672 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,840 doing there. It just all adds up. 673 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,000 To a really depressing set of watching and that's that's 674 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,160 where. Things are at at this point. 675 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,120 So anyway, I didn't want to go too terribly. 676 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,240 Long So we're going to wrap it up there and we'll see what 677 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400 happens with Indiana Michigan again Indiana only a four point 678 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560 projected underdog in this game at home this. 679 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120 Is one of the more. Winnable games on the. 680 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Schedule because it's at home. And because Michigan, while they 681 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,080 have had some some really big wins, they themselves. 682 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Have you know the? The road wins that. 683 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,720 They've picked up so far. On the season, they did win at 684 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,520 Wisconsin, but they also lost at Minnesota. 685 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,600 It's hard to know exactly what you're going to get out of this 686 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,240 Michigan team at this point and their last three games all wins. 687 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,320 They won by 4 points, 3 points and four points, so don't be 688 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,800 shocked. If Indiana comes out and plays 689 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200 well against Michigan. And figures out a way to put. 690 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Some put something together. I don't know that that changes. 691 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,760 The narrative on the season at all. 692 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560 But I wouldn't be. Shocked if you were watching 693 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800 that game and it was coming down to the final couple of minutes 694 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,520 and Indiana was either leading or in it. 695 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,280 So anyway, that'll. Wrap it up from here. 696 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,360 Hope you all have a delightful next couple of days and I hope 697 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,960 we see you all out at the upstairs pub. 698 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,200 On Saturday starting at noon as we'll be watching Indiana versus 699 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Michigan. I'm looking forward to it. 700 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320 I know the rest of the back Home Network crew are as well. 701 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,000 My thanks to Home Field Apparel, our presenting sponsor, and my 702 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,800 thanks. To all of you for. 703 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Listening or watching? We'll catch you folks on the 704 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,080 flip. Side bring back the. 705 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,120 Bison stay never daunted. Song, everybody.