1 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,479 Hello folks, welcome back to the Tuesday night Bison chat. 2 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,040 GAIL and Clavio here, Joe Cronin there, there now there he is 3 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,960 right there and welcome back as we get ready to talk IU 4 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,360 football. So much to talk about and I am 5 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,080 so excited to to get this episode going. 6 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,720 And first of all, before we get to any of the football talk, 7 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,880 happy birthday Joe. It was your birthday yesterday 8 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,960 and I kind of got lost in the shuffle with the travel bag and 9 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,040 everything, but happy birthday buddy. 10 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,360 Hope that it was a good one for you. 11 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Thank you. It was a shout out to my parents 12 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,400 for taking me out to dinner. Malibu Grill last night. 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,080 It was great. I mean, definitely was tired for 14 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,840 a little bit of jet lag, the red eye flight, but it was a good 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,040 birthday 21, so look at that. It's what a what a great weekend 16 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,280 for you. You, you watch Indiana win the 17 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,120 first game that they've ever played or had a chance to win in 18 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,040 the Rose Bowl. I guess other in 1968. 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,720 And then he turned 21 two days later. 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,520 That's a that's a nice college weekend for anybody you know. 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,040 Yeah, not something that I really had on my bingo card 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,200 heading, I guess when I was looking at the end of this year, 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,760 like, oh, my birthday's on a on a Monday. 24 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,480 But then, you know, being able to come back from California, I 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,600 can be like, that was that was really freaking cool. 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,360 We got a ton of things to talk about in this show and we're 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,280 going to be going through and looking at what happened in 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,920 Pasadena as IU with a huge victory over UCLA. 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Not just in terms of the magnitude of the win, in terms 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,800 of of margin, but the way that that really broke a lot of the 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,280 ice psychologically. I think for a lot of folks 32 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,360 within the IU family, both internally and outside, there've 33 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,320 been a lot of concern, some concern trolling as well about 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,920 the quality of opponents the first couple of weeks. 35 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,800 And it's fascinating. Everybody said, well, let's wait 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,480 until they play UCLA. They go out and they wallop UCLA 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,680 and suddenly it's like, well, UCLA wasn't very good. 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,040 So already the goal posts being moved, but we're going to talk 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,160 about that. We're going to talk about the 40 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,480 overall Rose Bowl experience through Joe's eyes, through my 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 eyes. And then we're also going to, of 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,360 course, talk about this weekend's upcoming game as IU 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,720 back home in Memorial Stadium taking on the Charlotte 49ers. 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,120 So all of that ahead here in this next 30 minutes, Joe, let's 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,320 just going to launch right in. We do have Daniel Flick joining 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,920 us from the Indiana Daily student who was also out there 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,000 covering the game. He'll be with us in about 5 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,200 minutes, but let's go ahead and dive in and talk a little bit 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,400 about what this Indiana team did in this contest. 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,600 You really, you don't have to pick a phase of the game to 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,560 focus on to be impressed with what Indiana did. 52 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,360 Let's start with the offense though, and we got some 53 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,400 highlights to show you. This IU offense was on fire 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,560 really from the get go. Joe, the passing game taking 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,000 over where the running game didn't quite have the same 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,760 amount of juice that it had in the first two games. 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,360 Curtis Rourke, the offensive player of the week in the Big 58 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,120 10, he was absolutely extraordinary. 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Right, That is Indiana's first offensive player of the week 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,680 since week 13 of the 2015 season. 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 That was Nate Sudfeld who was granted that award back in the 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,400 day. It seems like back in the day, 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,960 2015 is wild. But what a performance from him. 64 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,400 I mean, in those first two games, FIU and Western Illinois, 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920 he was looking sharp. I mean, he has that BIG65 frame. 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,680 He's patient in the pocket, 6th year senior. 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,120 So you know, he's not really going to try and force a lot. 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,960 And this one Big 10 opponents. Say what you want about UCLA, I 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,720 mean he was dialed in 75% completion percentage, 300 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,400 yards, the 1st 4 touchdown games for A4 touchdown game from a 71 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Hoosier quarterback since 2020. Michael Pennix did that Four 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Seasons ago. So really remarkable performance 73 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,880 from him and and I just goes to show that Cignetti got his guy 74 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:19,880 with Rourke. I mean, I was talking about this 75 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,400 earlier today, and it's like, who in college football right 76 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,640 now, outside of a handful of teams, wouldn't love to have 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 this Curtis Rourke as their starting quarterback? 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Tremendous credit to Kurt Signetti and Tino Sunseri and 79 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,240 the whole offensive staff for identifying this as their guy, 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,120 getting him in here. And, you know, something that I 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,200 think is worth noting, and we've got an interview with Rhett 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,360 Lewis that's going to come later on in the week where he mentions 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,600 this. I wanted to give him credit. 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Rourke didn't look completely dialed in in the first couple of 85 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,720 weeks. It was clear he was kind of 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,920 still figuring out the parameters of the offense and 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 the timing. But man, not only was I 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,560 impressed with his play making ability in this game, but the 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,000 fact that he was able to do it often times in 3rd and long 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,200 situations due to the running attack not working well or due 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,280 to penalties really highlighted even more how impressive his 92 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,240 game was and how quickly he's picked up this offense and is 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,640 really moving pieces around. Yeah, I think it was a, it was a 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,520 two-part sequence for this UCLA game. 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,760 He was very patient on those third and long. 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,880 He was finding the gaps, finding what was open. 97 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,720 But also the UCLA defensive scheme was very interesting when 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 it came to 3rd down. They were sending the house, 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,840 they're blitzing, mixing zone blitz packages. 100 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,360 And a guy like Rourke, he was experienced enough where he knew 101 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,040 where he wanted to throw to. And and like you said, like with 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,680 the timing, he relied on a guy that he has relied on before 103 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,480 with Miles Cross. What a game from him. 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Also transferred him from Ohio. Was one of his favorite targets 105 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,400 these past couple years. Combined for like 1100 yards 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,520 over the past two seasons and he's really come into his own. 107 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,720 Made a spectacular catch in the FIU game. 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Made a nice one handed catch down on that, get them down onto 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,760 the goal line against UCLA, was the leading receiver and and you 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,320 could see that connection right there is having a guy that he 111 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,920 could trust in a game like this. Let's go ahead and bring in from 112 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,840 the Indiana Daily student Daniel Flick on the show. 113 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,000 Daniel, how you doing? Good to see you. 114 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,600 It's been like a whole 3 hours since I saw you. 115 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Yeah. We're doing well, man. 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,080 We just wrapped up some football press conference stuff here. 117 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,680 I I learned that apparently the Waffle House nickname for Elijah 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Sarat is legit. Like people actually call him 119 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,080 that like self anointed, which I 100% have gone about my life the 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,080 last week assuming that was self anointed so. 121 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Breaking, breaking news from the football complex here. 122 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Thank you for for updating us. So I don't, I've, I've always, I 123 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,800 never really have a I've had a nickname like that. 124 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,360 It's mostly just been a shortening of my own name. 125 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,520 I'm always fascinated how these things come about. 126 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,680 But it's good to know he didn't just bring it on himself. 127 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,640 Because we always kind of looked at sconce when I was in college 128 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,760 at people who nicknamed themselves anything. 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,520 That was always like, OK, I don't know about you. 130 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,960 Oh, I 100% thought he was one of those guys, but apparently I 131 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,120 think it was Keyshawn Williams put it on him sometime in the 132 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 summer is what Miles Cross just said. 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,280 So I'm very glad. I I think that's a a green flag 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 for Elijah Sarat from a character perspective, yeah. 135 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Daniel, we were just talking about the offense for IU in this 136 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,080 UCLA game. Give us your impressions of that 137 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,320 offense and and where the most impressive aspects of it were. 138 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,920 I thought it was within the versatility and variety of 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,000 weapons that Indiana has. I thought I want to say there 140 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,640 was like 6 receivers who had at least three receptions. 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,240 There's just such a deep crop of playmakers there and I thought 142 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,680 it was really neat as well watching Mike Shanahan utilize 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,000 all of them in a variety of ways. 144 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 I think you know, the, the interesting part about it and 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,080 the, the number that I keep coming back to McCauley, who led 146 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Indiana last year in receiving and yards and all of that. 147 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,720 I want to say in in receiving scores as well. 148 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,160 They had about two or three snaps, it felt like saw one 149 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,280 target, very minimal role and you go on the road, you throw 150 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,120 for 307 yards. It was an incredibly, incredibly 151 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,520 impressive performance and really in my eyes, highlighted 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,920 just how deep of a, of a group of weapons Indiana has and also 153 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,480 the experience within that group too. 154 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,240 It's a, it's a deep crop, but a crop that's played a whole lot 155 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,680 of football. And I think you saw that show up 156 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,400 early on on the road. One of the things I noted about 157 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,440 McCauley, because we were a little surprised that he wasn't 158 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,640 more central to the offense, kind of didn't need to be 159 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,520 because of how well everybody else was playing. 160 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,440 But I mean, I remember there was one of the touchdowns, I think 161 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,200 it was one of the Keyshawn touchdowns where Mcculley takes 162 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,520 the the the corner route or the, or the flag route. 163 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,679 And then Keyshawn comes short, catches the touchdown pass and 164 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Mcculley just comes over and is celebrating with him. 165 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,360 And it's just like, OK, I feel like we've had past 166 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,240 circumstances where perhaps guys aren't completely bought in if 167 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,120 they're not getting targets. It does feel like you've got the 168 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,760 whole collective really celebrating together and feeling 169 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,560 like they're a part of things. And, and it feels like who gets 170 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:05,360 to star in every given game kind of changes from game to game. 171 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,520 And people seem to be OK with that so far. 172 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,600 That's huge for this Indiana team. 173 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Given the number of weapons that they've got. 174 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,960 It's hard to keep everybody happy. 175 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,080 So you got to make sure that there's some Esprit de corps 176 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,040 there. Right. 177 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,360 Yeah. And I actually, I think it was 178 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Miles Cross just so that a few minutes ago that they had a 179 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,520 conversation on the sideline Saturday about how, you know, 180 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,960 each week there might be somebody new who stands out and 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,920 steps up. And you could really see that 182 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,280 the way that Cross played on Saturday, I think he came in 183 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:32,320 kind of middle of the road in terms of Indiana's receiving 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,280 production. And they're having like 6 for 90 185 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,920 and a touchdown. So it's a very deep, very, very 186 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,400 deep group, especially when you kind of look at last year when 187 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 the last month of the year was Mccully and EJ Williams, who 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,040 have a combined one catch so far. 189 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,600 So it's it's very, very interesting seeing how they've 190 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,840 completely remodeled that room. Let's talk about the defense a 191 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,520 little bit for this IU team as as they also had a a really good 192 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,440 game and and it almost kind of got lost in the shuffle. 193 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:05,200 It wasn't just how much they bottled up UCLA in terms of 194 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,520 their their progression down the field, but it was also, you 195 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,360 know, they forced a couple of turnovers. 196 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,920 They they really disrupt the timing of of UCL as passing game 197 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,960 like all over the place. And it just felt like they had 198 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,320 control of the game from an early stage and never really let 199 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,520 up. They had a little bit of a lull 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,560 at the end of the first half and Signeti was clearly not happy 201 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:31,440 about that. But to watch them end but not 202 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,800 break something we always heard about the prom Allen era 203 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,360 defenses and it really kind of got less and less true every 204 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,920 year. Like this team really does do 205 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,440 that where it's like we saw it in Western Illinois, we saw it 206 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,840 in FIU. They move down the field. 207 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Those teams do, but they get stopped at a point and then 208 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Indiana capitalizes on offense, has to be galvanizing for that 209 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,760 defense. And it's been fascinating 210 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,120 watching them kind of coalesce into this unit that is able to 211 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,320 handle most of what's been thrown at them so far. 212 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Yeah, I mean, they also battle a little bit of adversity with 213 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,040 this game, having two ejections with CJ West on the targeting 214 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,600 where he's diving for that ball helmet, the helmet on Garbers, 215 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,360 and then the D'Angelo pawns and whether or not those were legit. 216 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Obviously heard some fans screaming at the TV screaming 217 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,640 from from the Rose Bowl. There was a good eyed contingent 218 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,160 that was present. But I mean, like you said, they 219 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,920 they bent a little bit. You know, it seems like 220 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,680 clockwork now that that last drive in the first half of the 221 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:28,800 opponent, they're going to score. 222 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,760 It's 3 for three now that a team has scored on that final drive 223 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,080 in the first half. But other than that, they looked 224 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,880 so sharp and through the ejections, they still played so 225 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,400 well. They played fast and physical. 226 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Something that Signetti said on on Saturday night is like, we 227 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,640 wanted to play physical and nasty. 228 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,000 And he said it with this tone. It was like they did. 229 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,360 They did what he said they would. 230 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 And that's kind of been the tale of the tape with this team and 231 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,080 with him is they have lived up to every promise up to this 232 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,360 point that he's been talking about since he was hired. 233 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Daniel thoughts on that? Percent. 234 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,360 I think Brian Haines, yeah, I'm a bit of a football nerd in 235 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,400 terms of like the schematic, like packages that that teams 236 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,920 throw at offenses. And I like Brian Haines. 237 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,240 Everything that he does is just so exciting to me to watch. 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,840 The one play, the one schematic drop I keep coming back to is IU 239 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,240 had, he was like a third down. It was when Amari Farrell had 240 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,360 his sack off the edge. He's lined up in his normal 241 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,840 Rover spot and you've got like 3 or 4 lineman up front. 242 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,960 They drop Lenell Carr and Amari Farrell rushes off the opposite 243 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,720 end. They they sacked, they sacked 244 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,000 UCLA for a loss or about 10 yards completely just ended that 245 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,400 drive. And it was one of those deals 246 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,480 where it was such a unique creative package. 247 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,080 And I it kind of like made me feel a certain type of way. 248 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,520 I mean, I was excited about it. So that's a unit that is 249 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,760 completely rallied around a very creative mind and Brian Haynes 250 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:55,680 and you can tell because again, a lot of the pieces there, it's 251 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:58,280 a it's a lot of new, but there's also a lot of pieces who are 252 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,600 back from last year who are playing at a completely new 253 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,000 level. And so that's one of the things 254 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 I kept coming back to a whole lot Saturday night is just how 255 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,960 well coached this team is. I think Brian Haines is 256 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,080 especially is just phenomenal. Daniel, I do want to kind of 257 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,880 piggyback off of that and and it starts with those guys in the 258 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,040 middle. It's Aiden Fisher and Jalen 259 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Walker, those two. And they even mentioned it, 260 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,400 Cygnet even mentioned that those two were the ones holding that 261 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,080 team together through the ejections, through the plenty of 262 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,080 penalties that were thrown out. And Fisher in these three games 263 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,000 has just looked fantastic. He has just been everywhere, 264 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,560 making hard tasks, tackles, breaking up passes and that is a 265 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:36,840 guy as a leader standpoint that is coming from the Bryant Haynes 266 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,840 system at JMU knows this team. I mean, what a guy to have as 267 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,840 you're really focal point of the defense. 268 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Yeah, he's, he's fantastic. He's fantastic. 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,200 I, I think, you know, it's so important to have those two 270 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,720 veterans who've played in this system before who have an innate 271 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,800 understanding of what they're trying to accomplish there. 272 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,800 I think the secondary as well as, but an extremely high level, 273 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,720 you know, pawns entered the year with, with high expectations. 274 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,680 A lot of people, you know, I recall the PFF list having him 275 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:07,640 as like a top five corner inside the conference. 276 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 But it's, it's more than just him. 277 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,560 I think Jamir Johnson's but a very high level. 278 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,040 You know, you look at him, Mari Farrell, you look at Sanguanetti 279 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,440 Asperi. It's a very, very solid group. 280 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,520 I think a lot of people thought that UCLA may test him a little 281 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 bit and if that was the first Test, in my eyes, they used it. 282 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,920 We had a comment from long time listener Ross Dixon. 283 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,400 Love SIG. How does IU ensure Florida State 284 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,680 or Florida don't poach him or his assistants? 285 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,960 It's an interesting, I mean, and actually I would, I might argue 286 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,920 West Virginia might be the bigger danger with Signetti than 287 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,120 anybody else given the long standing history his family has, 288 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,800 his has father coaching there. But you know, it's an 289 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,720 interesting moment in time because this is Florida and 290 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Florida State. I think for various reasons on 291 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,160 the on the head coach level, probably not looking, but this 292 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,160 is the price of success in college football is that if 293 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,560 you've got great assistance, you've either got to pay to keep 294 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,760 them because their market price goes up, or you've got to have 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200 people in mind to come in and replace them and not miss a 296 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,560 beat. And I think, as we saw with Tom 297 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,480 Allen, that is often times the hardest thing to do in college 298 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,440 football because you're you're going to lose people, either the 299 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,120 head coaching opportunities or better assistant opportunities, 300 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,480 you know, But I think this is where IU, given the investments 301 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,760 they've made in the football program in general, this is the 302 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,760 dogs you're running with now. So you're going to have to try 303 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,160 to figure that out ahead of time. 304 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,120 And, and my hope would be, you know, it looks like something 305 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 special is brewing here in Bloomington, particularly with 306 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,680 this group. You you got to try to put the 307 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,360 fence up around it and say, like this is the place these people 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,400 want to be. We can recruit for the future 309 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,680 here. We can do all the things we 310 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,200 need. We've got the NIL money. 311 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,840 That would be the hope. I guess I don't know. 312 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,560 What are your guys thoughts? Let me, Daniel, let me start 313 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,880 with you and then I'll go to Joe on this. 314 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Yeah, yeah. I'm a firm believer in the idea 315 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,760 that for head coaches, having an eye for other coaching talent is 316 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,320 just as, if not more important than having an eye when you're 317 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,760 recruiting. I think you can look back at Tom 318 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Allen's era and you can look at the staff that he had around him 319 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,840 between 19 and 20, and then you look at the one that he had 320 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,440 towards the end of his era, and you can kind of see why things 321 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,480 ended the way that they did. And so I do think it's. 322 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,880 It's kind of surprising to me that Brian Haynes and Mike 323 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Shanahan have lasted with Signet as long as they have. 324 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,920 To be completely honest with you, I would have thought that 325 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,320 other coordinator openings that at a higher level when they were 326 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,360 at JMU may have persuaded them a little bit more. 327 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,920 But they're very loyal, very loyal. 328 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 And I think, you know, it starts with the top at the top with 329 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,840 signeting. From everything that we've 330 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,720 heard, everything he said, the guy seems like he loves 331 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Bloomington, right? How could you not? 332 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,800 But I mean, he seems enamored with the city, the campus. 333 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,040 I think he's really committed to trying to turn this program into 334 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 a legitimate, you know, a legitimate presence. 335 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,720 And so I wouldn't be as concerned for your one, but I 336 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,960 definitely, I think the coordinators are where I'd be 337 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,400 more concerned. There is that loyalty aspect, 338 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,680 but I think this is probably going to end up being a multi 339 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,760 year thing for everybody. Yeah, Daniel, like you said, I 340 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,880 would not be too worried about this first year and coordinators 341 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,200 are really what what's going to be in the market once the 342 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,319 season's over for Signeti. I mean he's 63. 343 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,680 It's how much moving how how many times does he want to move 344 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,280 again? He's already moved a few times 345 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,400 in his career and seems like he really was able to settle into 346 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Bloomington. Like you said, he loves this 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,960 city and has kind of embraced this Hoosier culture right from 348 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,080 the get go. So with the coordinators and 349 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,840 especially, I mean, one of them, you have to imagine at the end 350 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,320 of the year is going to be getting some phone calls when 351 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,000 things end up getting moved around. 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,960 It's just part of the game. And I think, you know, you got 353 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,320 to trust the ability to reload. So I imagine they're already 354 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,640 been conversations held at the higher levels of considering the 355 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,800 the future possibilities. Bear's mouth with the comments 356 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,160 is pretty much all the old successful staff now leads 357 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Alabama. Will we actually step up and pay 358 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,560 him when it comes down to it? I will say this, I think that 359 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,280 there, while true factually, Bear's mouth, there's some 360 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,920 important caveats there. Like Caitlin de Boer left after 361 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,800 a year because he had a head coaching opportunity at the 362 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,800 place he had been the offensive coordinator the previous year. 363 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,520 You're not going to normally get a guy to stick around as an 364 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 assistant when a head coaching job's available. 365 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,200 We fired Nick Sheridan, he got hired by Kaylin Du Bort, 366 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,480 Washington resurrected his career and now he's at Alabama. 367 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,880 And Kane Womack left to go coach South Alabama as a head coach 368 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,080 and then left that job to go be an assistant at Alabama. 369 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,560 Even even even Ray and Blue, the strength and conditioning guys, 370 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,320 they, they, Saban hired them to run the strength and 371 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,440 conditioning at Alabama. So there is a little bit of of a 372 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,040 different scenario there, but I think the larger point is well 373 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,480 taken. IU, they've managed, I think, at 374 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,480 least through the first three games to capture something 375 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,400 pretty special. You can feel the energy around 376 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,120 the program. And this is where IU's got to 377 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,160 take the next step and make sure that they kind of keep this 378 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,920 together. Daniel, I want to let you go. 379 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,560 But before we do going to the next part of this and I'm going 380 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,000 to ask Joe the same question, but I want to I want to ask you 381 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,440 first and then let you go. So your first trip to the Rose 382 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Bowl, what was the environment like as as a student reporter 383 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,800 covering that and, and just kind of the overall ambiance. 384 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,640 Give me, give me it filtered through your eyes how it felt 385 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,080 and and what the experience was like. 386 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,720 It was incredible. You know, it's really 387 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,840 interesting because I was in Atlanta the week before. 388 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,960 And so you get a complete, you know, kind of like a complete 389 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,520 contrast of styles between a new school Dome, you know, all 390 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,160 state-of-the-art, everything at, at Mercedes-Benz. 391 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,560 And then you get to the Rose Bowl and you just walk in and 392 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,600 just feel so much history inside those walls. 393 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,920 It was really neat. I, I wish, you know, the 394 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,600 students had been there. I think, I think that would have 395 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,920 maybe added to the atmosphere. The really special part of it 396 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,240 for me was being down there at the end of the game and you got 397 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,880 the entire IU contingency just crowded around the tunnel and 398 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,040 chanting. And you could see how much the 399 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,360 program meant to so many people. And, and I, like Joe, was on the 400 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,440 beat last year when there was so much apathy around the program 401 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,480 and to see so many people care about it and to see. 402 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760 You know, a program that can legitimately make an impact. 403 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,320 That part of it was really, really neat. 404 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,880 And you know, having covered throughout the spring, 405 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,040 throughout the summer and you hear all the talk about what the 406 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,400 program could be, to see it all come to fruition was really neat 407 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,200 to see in person. And just, you know, pre game, 408 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,480 even our group got there like 5 hours, you know, prior to like 409 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,760 it was one of those deals where we wanted to soak it all in and, 410 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:36,840 and see everything. And we probably made two or 411 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,720 three laps around the stadium and it was just super cool just 412 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,560 kind of seeing all that. And it was one of those deals 413 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,160 where I was looking down on my phone and I was like, why am I 414 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,920 on my phone? I can look at my phone for the 415 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,200 next however many years of my life, but I might not have 416 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,600 another chance to be at the Rose Bowl. 417 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,920 So, so appreciative of you all and all the incredible people 418 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,440 who allowed that trip to to happen. 419 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,400 It was a whole lot of fun and one of the absolute highlights 420 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,360 of my life so far. Well, I'm glad it was. 421 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,480 I mean, it was. I want to hear what Joe has to 422 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,840 say. It was special for me as well. 423 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,240 But Daniel, I appreciate you taking the time to join us. 424 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,080 We'll let you go get some dinner and and get whatever you need to 425 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,480 get written for deadline tomorrow. 426 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,680 But thank you for joining us from Availability and we'll look 427 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,720 forward to reading you in the IDs later on this week. 428 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,280 Really appreciate you guys. Alright, thanks. 429 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Daniel Flick from the Indiana Daily student covering IU 430 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,520 football joining us here on the show. 431 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,560 Joe, let me ask the same question of you, your experience 432 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,160 as a student covering this game in the Rose Bowl. 433 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Yeah, before I get into kind of my personal experience, I do 434 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,480 want to say thank you to you, Galen. 435 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,160 And then the rest of like the faculty at IU that allowed 436 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,120 twelve students to be able to go out and cover and be a part of 437 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,040 that experience. I mean, having one student to 438 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,880 cover a football of the football game for IU is one thing, but 12 439 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,960 on the road to go 2500 miles, I mean, just thank you for that 440 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,280 experience. Just goes to show where this 441 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,960 program as a sports media program at IU has grown from the 442 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800 time that you have been able to build it up. 443 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520 So I hope there's a sense of pride that you have to kind of 444 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,080 see all of us out there on the sidelines. 445 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 I mean, I've always said, and you know, I, I wish I could send 446 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,040 everybody, but you know, like one of all my favorite moments 447 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,720 from when I was a student at IU as an undergrad were from the, 448 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,440 the travelling we did around sporting events. 449 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,040 And, you know, there was no budget for anything back then. 450 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Like we drove to Penn State a day after getting passes. 451 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,760 We didn't think we were going to get to broadcast the game, you 452 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,720 know, and we, we, we managed to figure out a way to get to a 453 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,640 couple of NCAA tournaments. So I'm just glad I, you know, 454 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,360 there were a couple of people that didn't get a chance to go 455 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:46,680 and I felt bad about that. But I was really happy that so 456 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760 many of you got a chance to go out and cover it and just kind 457 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,880 of be part of the experience because it's, it is so unique 458 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,080 and it is such a you know, that they'll, there will, that will 459 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,240 be the, the, that's the only first time that IU will play a 460 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,160 Big 10 opponent in the Rose Bowl. 461 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,440 So I'm glad you all got a chance to be a part of that. 462 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,560 But yeah, the the game itself, well, kind of like Daniel said, 463 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,960 we're there 3-4 hours really just kind of walking around the 464 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,320 the the tailgate scene, seeing everything happen, seeing the 465 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,600 large IU contingent that was there, which was really cool to 466 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,480 see it. And that was probably my 467 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040 favorite moment too, that games coming to an end. 468 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,480 All the IU fans, they harp down to to where IU ran out of the 469 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,760 tunnel and they are loud, They're making their voices 470 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,920 heard. They are cheering for the 471 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,840 players, chanting Sig's name. And there was a video that one 472 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,200 of my roommates and someone was on the trip as well as Josh Post 473 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,600 took and tweeted out. It was of Scott Dolson and Pam 474 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Whitten saying thank you to everyone that came out. 475 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,840 And it was a moment like there, it looked like Mr. Dolson had a 476 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,600 tear in his eye, too. And it just from an athletic 477 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480 director standpoint to see what has happened for this football 478 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,960 team and then for myself as a junior in college, to say that 479 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,960 I've been able to stand on the sideline at the Roseville for a 480 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,320 football game, a real football game, not a preseason game, not 481 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,400 anything like that. It was incredibly special. 482 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560 It's something that I'll remember for the rest of my life 483 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,360 especially. And it's just very cool, just 484 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,560 everything around. It my my brother-in-law, Eric, 485 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,720 who grew up an IU fan, he texted me today, you know, two days 486 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,160 later, he's like, that might be the most fun I've ever had 487 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,960 attending a live sporting event. And I and I feel the same way. 488 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,360 I mean, I, I went out there, I was in the stands. 489 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,800 I was in that group that Daniel was talking about in the corner, 490 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,880 saluting the team and saluting the coaching staff as they came 491 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,520 off the field. You know, when IUI think when 492 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,200 they scored the touchdown to go up 35 to 13, I, you know, I left 493 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,160 my family in the stands and I said, I've got to go high 5 the 494 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840 IU cheering sections that are up in the corners. 495 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,720 And I did and I ran up there and I started high fiving people, 496 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,400 which probably looked a little goofy in retrospect, but I was 497 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,280 so overcome with just a joy and kind of it was almost like a 498 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,360 dreamlike state where it's like, I, I can't believe that not only 499 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,480 did IU win a game in the Rose Bowl, and I don't really even 500 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920 care about the level of competition, but like they, they 501 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,920 absolutely just, they, they, they made it really hard on UCLA 502 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,920 to do anything. They dominated the game 503 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,600 basically from beginning to end. And I think for for you 504 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,920 students, like it's, it's such a joy. 505 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,120 I was actually telling my kids this when I was walking out of 506 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,760 the stadium. Like, I don't know how I can't 507 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,160 explain to you how lucky you are you were here for this because 508 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,280 so many generations of IU fans haven't been able to experience 509 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,920 anything even close to this. And yes, it wasn't a bowl game. 510 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,640 It was just a game in the Rose Bowl. 511 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240 But the psychological weight that that takes off the 512 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,400 shoulders of a lot of older fans who have made that trip and to 513 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,360 to have it be that enjoyable of the game is really hard to put 514 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:55,760 into words. And I'm just glad that you 515 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,760 students get a chance to experience like that in college 516 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,480 because that you have to literally go back to when my dad 517 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480 and mom were in college for the last time that you even had a 518 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,880 chance to go to the Rose Bowl. And there just haven't been a 519 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,240 lot of games that have given that kind of joy. 520 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,720 I mean, we've been tossing it around. 521 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Like, you know, the 2019 game at Nebraska was a game that you 522 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,600 kind of had a similar feeling coming out of the 2015 bucket 523 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,160 game when Indiana beat Purdue to make it back to a bowl. 524 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000 I mean, there's a couple of others, but that was just a 525 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,560 unique joining of circumstance and location and everything 526 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,880 else. And what a beautiful venue to 527 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,840 play a football game in. I, I, you know, we were hearing 528 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,520 before the game like, oh, the place is kind of a dump. 529 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,920 And it's like, it's not a dump. It's that it was a nice stadium. 530 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,760 It's not, you know, it doesn't have all the bells and whistles 531 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,080 of like a Mercedes-Benz, but it was absolutely a really cool 532 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,120 place to watch a game. And that was that was really 533 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,640 cool to see. Quick, quick couple of comments 534 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,360 here before we move on quickly to Charlotte Ross Dinnen or 535 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,760 Dinson. Sorry, with all the good vibes 536 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,200 around the football program, how can I you bring that tailgate 537 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,000 experience vibes to basketball? Man, I've talked about this for 538 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,760 a while. I don't think it's possible, at 539 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,920 least from the alumni side, because there's, you know, 540 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,440 basketball games are always at night. 541 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,040 It's always cold. You, you it's I've tried 542 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,720 tailgating in those environments. 543 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,560 It's not a lot of fun, you know, but it but it's also a different 544 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,600 vibe. But the games are shorter and 545 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,720 there's such a different expectation around basketball, 546 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,760 like basketball at IU, often times it just hasn't been fun. 547 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,120 You know, the last time it was really fun all the way through 548 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,560 the season was 2013, I would argue. 549 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,160 And that was because that team, people knew that team was good 550 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,480 coming into the year and then they were good all throughout 551 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,880 the year. And I mean, that was 11 years 552 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,520 ago. And yes, there, you know, 2016 553 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:52,480 was an excellent season. 2022 was was a season that or 2023, I 554 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,840 guess it was, was a season where it's like it turned into 555 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,680 something that was that was nice to see, you know, at least in 556 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,720 terms of the regular season. But yeah, it's it's just one of 557 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,040 those deals where I don't think you can really translate the 558 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,120 type of vibe that you get off of football into basketball. 559 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,480 And that's not necessarily a bad thing. 560 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,240 They're just very different types of sports. 561 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,160 Yeah. And and like you said, 562 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,840 basketball, I mean a college basketball game at a maximum 563 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,560 will go 2 1/2 hours. And if you and you're really 564 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,400 upset if it goes that long, yes. You're upset if it goes that 565 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600 long because that means, you know, players are calling for 566 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,920 review for everything. Maybe it goes to OT and you're 567 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,000 getting a little extra bang for your buck, but for football, 568 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400 it's an event aside from just a game. 569 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160 I mean, it's already 4 hours. You got to get there an hour 570 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,680 early if you want to just, you know, for Aga ticket, you want 571 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,160 to get a good seat if you're a student. 572 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,200 And that tailgating experience has just been kind of 573 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,560 circulating around football for like really the longest time, 574 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,600 ever since I've been born tailgating and it's been a 575 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600 thing, I imagine it's been before and I was born. 576 00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:00,320 So I just don't think it's as much of I, it's possible, but it 577 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 just doesn't fit the culture of the sports, I'd say. 578 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 We wanted to get to to well, we got a question from Ryan Cotter 579 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,200 actually here What can I you do to make it easier for fans to 580 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,360 get to games from Indy? UCLA buses students 45 minutes 581 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,240 from campus. Should be the same I. 582 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,720 It's hard to get a charter flight to to. 583 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,760 Well, I, I think they, I think he means fans from Indy coming 584 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,880 down to Bloomington because it is, there is some traffic issues 585 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,000 and it's not so much students as it is, you know, alums. 586 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:37,160 Here's the thing, Ryan, the there's the roads are not an 587 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,880 excuse anymore. If you're coming from 588 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,960 Indianapolis like it is, it's a quick trip down and look, yes, 589 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,840 the parking and the overall setup is not ideal, but anytime 590 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,920 you try to put somewhere between 40 and 50,000 people in one 591 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,160 spot, the parking and the the overall flow is going to be 592 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,640 difficult. I mean, to me, I think to some 593 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,680 degree, I think IU frankly has done a lot to make that 594 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,960 circumstance work. And Ryan had an idea here of 595 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400 like a stadium district with bars right around the stadium 596 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480 and arena would be huge for pregame atmosphere. 597 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,840 I mean, in a in the micro, I agree. 598 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,440 But the problem is there's no, there's no place to put a 599 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,720 stadium district around the athletics complex because. 600 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,560 There's already living quarters as well. 601 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,360 There's there's places where people live like it's apartments 602 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 and things like that, but it's also like university land where 603 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,080 you're not gonna like put a commercial district. 604 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560 And look, I mean, and there's other colleges, there's other 605 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,080 other college towns that don't like that are set up very 606 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,760 similar to Bloomington and the way the stadiums are, are on 607 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360 campus and you don't have a district around. 608 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,240 I honestly think the best thing IU can do to make it easier for 609 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,080 fans to get the games from Indy is make the team good enough 610 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,560 that missing the game is not an option because, and that's, that 611 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,720 really only comes from wins and from playing attractive 612 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,200 football. And I think that's what 613 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080 Indiana's done so far. You know, my hope in all of this 614 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:09,000 is that the UCLA win wakes up the people who have not 615 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880 otherwise decided to go to football games. 616 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,800 And, you know, I said this in class today. 617 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,760 I was like, I we should make this weekend, like, introduce a 618 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,160 friend to IU Football Weekend, you know, volunteer to buy their 619 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520 ticket, drive them down, whatever. 620 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,400 But it's like, let's get people in the stadium and who cares if 621 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000 it's not a great opponent and Charlotte is not a great 622 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320 opponent. I mean, they're 121st in S&P 623 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Plus. They're they've, they're one and 624 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,720 two. They beat an FCS opponent by 1. 625 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880 They're on their third string quarterback Joe. 626 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,320 They're they're not a good team right now. 627 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,720 But as Scott pointed out on on the The Mothership Show, there's 628 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,480 a certain excitement in watching your team beat the hell out of 629 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,120 an opponent. You know, I mean, going and 630 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,320 watching 6-7 touchdowns, being scored, that's fun. 631 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,920 Like, isn't that something? Isn't that what we want as 632 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,080 football fans? You know, what is it that we're 633 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,040 doing exactly where we wouldn't want that to be what we go to 634 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,840 watch? Why do we only go watch games 635 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,560 that IU is likely to lose? I've never quite understood that 636 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,720 that concept. Well, I I think with with this 637 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360 season as compared to others, I mean, last year, someone that 638 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,440 Daniel mentioned was like how we were there last year. 639 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,520 And there's just, you know, the vibes are on the team. 640 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,520 Just you could tell those wheels were falling off the wagon. 641 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,120 I mean, the moment they lost or the moment they went to four 642 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,760 overtimes against Akron was like, this just is going to be a 643 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,880 long year to go through. But for this year to go to 644 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,160 Pasadena, disregard. It doesn't matter what UCLA 645 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,440 record ends up. They like if UCLA ends up, you 646 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,760 know, 3:00 and 9:00 in the season and IU is who knows? 647 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080 They played them like they were 3:00 and 9:00 and took care of 648 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,720 that game like they were three and nine. 649 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,680 Now, granted they could. The record could be fluctuating. 650 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320 They do have a tough schedule, so I think bowling's going to be 651 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,080 tough for them. But they went there, took care 652 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960 of business. Again, this wasn't a game like 653 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,640 for the players. There was never a doubt the 654 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,160 moment that game started, they went down marched on the field 655 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,240 score first play UCLA had as a fumble score again, they're up 656 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 14 zero. So this the the vibes around the 657 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 the team was this is they're taking care of business right 658 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280 there and the national attention has started to gain And just saw 659 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,600 a comment here about how Joe Buck he actually mentioned he 660 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200 was singing the Indiana fight song on last night and briefly. 661 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,240 But there there has been national attention around this 662 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120 team. I mean, saw the graphic 23% 663 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200 chance to make the playoffs. Pat McAfee shouting out Kurt 664 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,240 Signetti yesterday on his show. There's a buzz around this team 665 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,520 that Galen, I mean, have you seen this? 666 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,760 No, I mean that's. I mean, even 2020, yes, there 667 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,280 was 20, there were winning games, but. 668 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440 Yeah, it was 20, so it was a different thing. 669 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920 Yeah, it was a crazy time. And. 670 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,000 And look, as Justin points out in the comments, according to to 671 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,240 many, and it's not just FP, I I mean the I US favored in all the 672 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,000 remaining games except Ohio State. 673 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,200 And, and look again, there are limitations on what the stats 674 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,400 and the projections can do because they're just looking at 675 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,360 the input. But I mean Bill Connolly, who's 676 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,120 one of our favorite stats people who runs the S&P Plus statistic 677 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,440 for ESPN, you know that, that I think Indiana's still in the 30s 678 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,480 or 40s or maybe is around there in S&P Plus. 679 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,920 But if you that is still factoring in last year, if you 680 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,320 take it and you just have this year's performances, Indiana is 681 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,960 8th in S&P Plus because they have won so convincingly against 682 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,560 the opponents that they've played. 683 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,880 And look, all of this has to be taken with a bit of a grain of 684 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,639 salt in as much as there's a lot of season to play and this is 685 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,679 still a team that is fully figuring itself out. 686 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,239 But I think it is OK if you're an IU fan to be irrationally 687 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,560 exuberant and confident. Even if it doesn't pan out, have 688 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560 fun with it. Like, don't worry about, well, 689 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,080 maybe we're not actually that good. 690 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,560 And that because that type of enthusiasm spreads. 691 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,240 It's funny, Like, I got a text from my mom after the game who 692 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,560 hadn't seen the score. And she's like, I had no idea IU 693 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,040 was so dominant. I was like, well, go listen to 694 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,800 the podcast I recorded. And then she did. 695 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,320 And she's like, wow, they really were good. 696 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080 And I'm like, yeah. And it's like that. 697 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800 That helps to build enthusiasm amongst your fellow fans. 698 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,480 And I think if you're already following, following IU 699 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,800 football, you kind of have a responsibility to evangelize IU 700 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200 football to those who aren't excited about it yet. 701 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,880 Because I think there's something special this it feels 702 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,960 like there's something special going on with this particular 703 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,400 group of coaches and players. And this next week, you know, if 704 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,040 they go out and play really well and they can fine tune, which is 705 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,840 really what they're going to need to do, continue to fine 706 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,680 tune both offense and defense. You know, get rid of some of the 707 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,680 penalties, get rid of, you know, some of the running. 708 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,720 There were some running issues this week that were passing 709 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,360 issues the previous week. It's still going to be a little 710 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,960 bit of work in progress. But you get through this 711 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,160 upcoming game, you're a third of the way through the season and 712 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,040 you've only got 2/3 left. And those are all conference 713 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,080 games. After this Charlotte game, this 714 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,840 is essentially the last tune up. It's going to be really 715 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,120 important to get people involved and going with this. 716 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,680 And I think it's exciting for fans who already are going. 717 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680 Let's get some more people out there would be what I would say. 718 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,200 And I think students, same thing. 719 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,880 If I'm a student, I'm like, it's a noon kick. 720 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,520 This is great. You know, I can go and I can 721 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,400 still have the rest of my day to do whatever I want. 722 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,840 There's not really a good excuse for not being out there for 723 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,320 multiple like 3 or 4 quarters, not just two. 724 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,960 I I think with how this past week when that performance in 725 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,280 Pasadena and IU fan, it's hard to not be optimistic and think 726 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:46,120 that there should be three more conference wins along with what 727 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,800 is likely a win against Charlotte. 728 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,360 So you got to think that seven wins is a very likely scenario 729 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,240 at this point when going into the year, there was so much 730 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,600 unknown, just new coach, new team, so many new players. 731 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,680 But the way they performed and yes, obviously, like you said, 732 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,440 with all the analytics, the FBI, it's all just the input of stats 733 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,040 that they have. But the eye test, they have 734 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920 passed that too. They've been mature when faced 735 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,360 with any sort of give in the UCLA game two ejections when 736 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,920 UCLA brought it to two scorers, 2 score Game 2 separate times 737 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,880 start of the second-half and start of the fourth quarter. 738 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,240 They scored to bring it down to two scores. 739 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,160 And IU immediately responded with long drives down the field 740 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,200 to regain that three score leading. 741 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Like you said, it was the the score to put it up 3513. 742 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000 That was really like, oh, they just did this. 743 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,240 They they have come in here and and whooped a a conference 744 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,600 opponent in their own stadium in a historic stadium at that. 745 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,280 So I just think if there are fans roaming around that are 746 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,560 questioning, don't see it for yourself and I think especially 747 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,760 this week, there'll be something to enjoy from it. 748 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,640 And well, and it's funny because because Steve said just seven 749 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,280 wins. Are we only playing eight games? 750 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,800 And I knew that somebody was going to react to that. 751 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,240 And I'm going to finish with this stat, Steve, and I 752 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:07,520 understand your reaction. In the last 30 years, how many 753 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600 seasons has Indiana finished with seven or more wins? 754 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,840 Do you know Joe? Is it 1? 755 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,280 It's it's 2. I knew about, I knew about 2019. 756 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,280 I don't know if there would be another one in there. 19 and 757 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,600 2007 are the only two seasons where Indiana has won more than 758 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,080 six games in a season like there. 759 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,680 Has to be a bit of like. Seven wins. 760 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,000 Look, I mean, I know people and I try. 761 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,240 I got, I got a ton of people in my group chats and texting me 762 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,600 individually like is the floor? Ten wins. 763 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,440 It's like, let's pump the brakes slightly. 764 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,400 Not to the point where we're not enthusiastic, but we predicted 765 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,280 eight and four. Both Scott and I did on the 766 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,200 preseason podcast for Crimson cast. 767 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,280 A lot of people were like, wow, you guys are really being overly 768 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,640 optimistic. So I you know, you never know 769 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,400 what's going to happen when you get in the conference play. 770 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,400 But even A7 win season, if you had said before the year, hey, 771 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920 let's do this. Let's let's just take seven wins 772 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,840 and walk away with it. Most people would have grabbed 773 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,320 that check without a second thought. 774 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,920 And so let's just keep that in mind as we move forward. 775 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Anyway, Joe, any final thoughts where we wrap up? 776 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440 Really my last thought is, is this is something I'm excited 777 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,360 two weeks from now when we come back, we have the show after the 778 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,000 Maryland game and we talk about the crowd for that because this 779 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,240 team is trending to start four and all on the season and 780 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,440 hosting their second Big 10 conference game in two weeks. 781 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,600 And I think that will be very interesting to see the response. 782 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600 We've talked about, you know, Week 1. 783 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,080 And then he was like, oh, wish they stayed the entire game. 784 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,720 There was a good turn out, but they didn't stay the whole game. 785 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:42,800 And then obviously Western Illinois is Western Illinois. 786 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,840 I think week five there could be a strong 54,000 for four 787 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,360 quarters. Yeah, it's we'll see what 788 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,240 happens as we move forward. As Steve notes, it's not fair to 789 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,680 hold any of us responsible for what we said before the year. 790 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,160 I agree. I will not be held responsible 791 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,080 for anything I said before the year either. 792 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,080 But look. I appreciate everybody joining 793 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,200 us here on Tuesday night Bison chat. 794 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,880 We always have a ton of fun doing this. 795 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,520 We'll be back with more next week, hopefully after a big win 796 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,440 for IU as they take on Charlotte over the weekend. 797 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,480 Our thanks to Daniel Flick from the Indiana Daily Student for 798 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,600 joining us. And my thanks as always to my Co 799 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,520 host here, Joe Cronin, Emily Fox off this week. 800 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,040 She'll be back next week and we'll look forward to bringing 801 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,000 you more. Thank you all for tuning in, 802 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,240 whether you're doing so live or whether you do so later. 803 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:36,240 For all those folks and for the back home network, I'm Galen 804 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,960 Clavio saying thanks for joining us here on the Tuesday night. 805 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080 Buy some chat. We'll catch you folks on the 806 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,000 flip side. So everybody.