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Feel apparel Welcome back to 

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Crimson Cast Galen Clavier Scott
Caulfield with you. 

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It is September happy September 
everybody as we've wrapped up 

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August and Indiana's one and O 
in the in the record books they 

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they pick up their first win of 
the season as they knock off 

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Florida International yesterday 
at Memorial Stadium. 

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We are going to talk in depth 
about that game and about some 

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of our reflections from what we 
saw in the game. 

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And Scott overall, really kind 
of a perfect day. 

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A little sunny at times, which 
was I think a little unexpected 

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given how the the day started 
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But a pretty good start to the 
new era here, the Kurt Zignetti 

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era at IU and just nice to have 
football back, nice to be back 

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in the stadium. 
It, it did feel good having 

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been, you know, out of it and 
all this anticipation that's 

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built over the course of the 
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It was nice to finally actually 
be in the midst of it all. 

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Yeah, and see a team doing 
something that that was 

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different. 
And it was funny for us because,

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you know, we have season 
tickets, had them for years with

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with two younger kids taking 
them to the games. 

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We kind of checked out last year
and didn't go to a lot of games.

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So being back, it's like, wow, 
it's like really, I feel like we

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haven't been here in two years 
even though we went to a couple 

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of games last year, just didn't 
feel like we had been there a 

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while. 
Some new changes in Memorial 

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Stadium, some new food vendors. 
They've done a couple of some 

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upgrades which are very well 
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But no, it was it was great to 
be back and great way to end the

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day with a win. 
Yeah, it was really nice. 

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And we'll talk about some of the
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towards the tail end of the 
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So Scott, let's go ahead and 

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dive into what we've got going 
on today. 

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We'll recap the game and let's 
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Indiana picking up their first 
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And that in and of itself is not
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I mean, outside of years where 
Indiana has to open with, like 

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Ohio State, IU has has pretty 
traditionally won their first 

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game of the season. 
But there was a lot of intrigue 

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around this one. 
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because it's the first game for 
Kurt Signetti as head coach. 

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It's the first game for most of 
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It's the first game for a lot of
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players. 
And everybody, I think, was kind

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of curious what they were going 
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team. 
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everybody had to feel really 
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minutes of the game, 25 minutes 
maybe, where it just looked like

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Indiana was going to dominate 
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The offense was both crisp but 
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It was clear they were trying 
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The defense was swarming and 
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FIUFIU, as we talked about in 
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Not a good team, maybe the worst
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at least as far as pre season 
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But you know, we've we saw teams
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with FCS opponents, with other 
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Anytime you can kind of throttle
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throttling them in the first 
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thing to look at. 
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very positive way in the stands 
there, Scott, as as we entered 

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that last possession of the 
first half, I was like, this is 

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about as good as I could have 
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I agree. 
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how how can I be a little more 
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really positive with what I saw.
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those where you look at the 
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of, you know, 31 to 7 doesn't 
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to seven. 
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we've beaten Indiana State in 
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And those are games where you 
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God, that must have been a 
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This is one where the score 
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we were just kind of dominating 
Florida International, You know,

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it was 21, nothing. 
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they were showing, you know, in 
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There was like, you know, a 
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14, like Florida National had 
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You know, there were a couple of
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They had the one drive where 
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But then, you know, Indiana kind
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And you know, it, it it was, it 
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especially on the defensive end.
And then we'll talk about the 

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offense as well. 
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again, I'm looking at this from 
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It looked really good, even 
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doing really vanilla stuff. 
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same three or four runs every 
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getting yards out of it. 
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around. 
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unbelievably impressive showcase
for a team that really looked 

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like they were not bringing 
everything they had to offer in 

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the game. 
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You know, so it's one of those 
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been trying to track some of the
post game commentary and you 

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know, both from media and from 
folks in the in the Twitterverse

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and elsewhere. 
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expecting Indiana to just like 
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like Ole Miss do last night 
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know, as we saw some teams doing
this weekend, you probably left 

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disappointed. 
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people's comments like, well, 
this looks like more of the 

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same. 
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like an offensive showcase. 
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talk about some of the struggles
of the offense was clearly 

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having and what those were and 
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was, you know, but but I look at
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think if you were going and 
expecting Indiana to just wallop

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FIU, that was not a reasonable 
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this mesh of personnel was for 
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ball. 
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you've got new players and 
you're playing against live 

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competition for the first time. 
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some things that needed to be 
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But I will say that in terms of 
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people are expecting to be one 
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I think by being hit over the 
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good, I think this is going to 
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being against FIU and then 
Western Illinois is really 

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important 'cause I think it was 
clear yesterday, especially on 

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offense, that this team is going
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shape as far as being a really 
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The pieces all look like they're
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have the timing. 
They don't seem to yet have the 

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the the command of what all 
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teammates are doing play by 
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That's really how it felt on a 
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It felt that way on a lot of the
drops that we saw. 

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You know, and I think he 
listened to Kurt Stignetti's 

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comments afterwards and he was 
clearly frustrated with the 

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number of points or the number 
of big plays that IU left on the

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board just through mistakes that
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opposed to being forced by FIU. 
Those are good things to have in

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a first game where you win 
anyway by 24 points because it's

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like way we won and we still got
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on. 
I think that that's almost the 

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ideal Stew for a team like this 
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So 1 signeti thought I'd like to
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And and this is there's there's 
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than the contrast where we were.
But I'm not here to re litigate 

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and talk about Tom Allen. 
But it's, it is just, you have 

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to, for me, it's like, I cannot 
not notice the difference. 

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I was watching Signeti a lot on 
the sideline just because last 

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year I, I, I didn't want to look
at Alan in the last couple years

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as much. 
But he was hard to not look at 

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because every time something 
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exuberance or complete despair. 
And he would be slapping helmets

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and going nuts or he'd be 
screaming and yelling and it was

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like highs just complete peaks 
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and low. 
I was really struck by how 

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professional Signetti was on the
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reacted. 
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I was also really interested to 
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say one or two things. 
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kind of walk down the sideline. 
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letting your coaches coach like 
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coaches, you know, coach the 
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high, too low. 
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in it was very much, you know, 
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know, Florida International is 
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You know, they, they score, they
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ball and in, in other situations
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you could feel that the team 
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like, Oh my God, like if they 
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know, that half the fans are 
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Like this is not going to be 
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You never felt that. 
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it's almost like a, you know, a,
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little bit. 
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now we're just going to go ahead
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throttle them now and we'll be 
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And you never felt the team get 
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definitely you. 
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Signeti on the way he was 
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sideline, which is just such a 
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the last couple years. 
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propensity for just standing by 
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This was pointed out by several 
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I I was, I'm I was sitting on 
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didn't really have a great 
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like, yeah, it's really 
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Signetti's standing, how he's 
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general about how Signetti 
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know, again, as you said, it was
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but it was also one of those 
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very frustrated by a lot of the 
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And even in the post game, like 
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were pretty no, no BS. 
It was like, well, we got, you 

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know, we played OK, but we've 
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things. 
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interviews that he was unwilling
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His team really need to do a lot
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And Signetti clearly had a lot 
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already. 
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that he was trying to uphold 
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Now, I think Indiana's got a 
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interesting because I'm sure 
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happened in this game and say, 
well, this isn't really what we 

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were hoping for. 
We were hoping for more. 

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But there was an alternate 
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Let me try speaking in English. 
There was an alternative 

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scenario here where IU look like
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of like Wisconsin did against 
Western Michigan earlier on this

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week where you're just like, uh 
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in trouble in this game. 
It's more like, OK, there's some

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things they're not doing yet or 
not able to do yet, but I never 

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got the sense like, wow, they 
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to do. 
It's more tweaking and 

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finalizing execution as opposed 
to, Oh my God, there's like 

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tremendous problems here that 
need to be addressed. 

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And that's for a new coach with 
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especially this many new players
in key spots. 

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I'm actually a little bit buoyed
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especially on defense. 
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little tweaks. 
This was I I thought a really 

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good point from if you if you're
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Bison folks, we're going to just
annoy you all season about 

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subscribing. 
But Taylor did a good job of of 

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writing out his initial 
thoughts, looking at some of the

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advanced statistics. 
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was that Indiana, I'm going to 
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Indiana was fantastic in run 
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dual threat quarterback Keon 
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defensive scheme, the 
linebackers were actually 

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available to spy. 
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things like that where there 
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to the second level. 
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used to the last couple years to
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real trouble. 
Now Indiana's got a problem. 

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But then there was always 
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clean things up. 
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there's there's the the, the, 
the pass blocking could have 

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been a lot better. 
But the flip side of that is for

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a team that is not necessarily 
run first, this team looked 

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amazing running the football all
game last year and the year 

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before with Indiana trying to 
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They never looked anywhere close
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And I think that, you know, 
these these are the kinds of 

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things where it's like, I think 
people are going to dwell on the

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negatives. 
But to rack up over 230 rushing 

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yards, which I think it was and 
really just look like they could

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have moved the ball whenever 
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I'm not used to that. 
Like that. 

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We got to go back to like Tevin 
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for me to really feel like we 
were at a time when we had that 

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kind of running attack. 
No. 

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And you talk about this being 
kind of the perfect way to win. 

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You know, again, they, they were
never really threatened. 

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I, I watched that Michigan State
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Like there's a team that with a 
new coach where they could have 

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lost that game. 
They're like 3 plays away from 

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losing that game. 
Also having like 12 targeting 

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penalties. 
It's like Michigan State's just 

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ready to take your head off at 
all times. 

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But that was they, they could 
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And you know, this this is a 
situation where you you know, 

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they've made IU has made enough 
mistakes and looked non crisp 

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enough to give signetti enough 
to work with. 

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But it wasn't like now, Oh my 
God, we really got to get 

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together like this Looks like a 
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their first four games. 
You know, UCLA will talk about 

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separately, but it looks like 
the other two kind of quote UN 

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quote Gimme games should be wins
now. 

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So now it's like, all right, we 
can breathe a little easier 

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because that wasn't the case for
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Like we we've had issues with 
this before. 

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I'm not saying it's going to 
happen. 

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And you know what happens this 
season will kind of reflect back

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on this game as to whether this 
is a mirage or just like, well, 

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FIU sucked and you know, we 
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But all we can look at is right 
now, the thing that I, I looked 

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at from offense in this game is,
you know, we've had a couple of 

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years, like you said, of, of it 
looks like Indiana's trying to 

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get the running game going with 
just runs right up the middle 

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and you'd run it up the middle 
and you would get nothing or 

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you'd get a yard. 
And that was always so 

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frustrating to me. 
And it also didn't work, by the 

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way, just side note, never 
worked in the in the red zone 

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because we'd be 4th and, you 
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one and we'd run four times in 
the in the red zone and we would

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lose. 
We wouldn't get a touchdown this

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year, you know, So this game 
obviously we're keeping a lot, 

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you know, they, they kept a 
pretty vanilla playbook. 

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They ran a lot of RP OS. 
But First off, they didn't run 

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them right up the middle. 
They ran them to the side. 

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But I thought it was interesting
that even for a team where you 

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could tell, like it was like 
we're just kind of trying to run

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some plays to kind of get things
going, they were still getting 

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234 yards every time they ran an
RPO and sometimes they would 

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break it. 
I mean, they finished the game 

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you mentioned with 239 rushing 
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yards a play. 
They're 6.2. 

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Yeah, rushing yards to play. 
I went back and looked like 

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Akron last year, just one 
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yards a play, you know, and 
that's a huge difference when 

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you're, you know, second and six
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Having just gotten slammed. 
I I was very impressed by that 

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because my thing is like, I 
think they were running the same

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two or three RPO plays every 
single time, which is fine. 

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You're not going to open up your
playbook, but they they 

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obviously have a different 
playbook because they had the 

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one flea flicker in the red zone
where was a the half back 

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through it for a, you know, the 
guy was wide open for a 

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touchdown, but he threw it like 
5 yards short. 

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I have some crazy plays and 
there's not going to pull them 

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all out here for FIU. 
But I that's the thing that I 

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was most impressed by is that, 
you know, in previous years, 

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even against subpar opponents, 
when we would try and get the 

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run game going, we really 
couldn't get it going like we 

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were doing yesterday. 
Even when we were kind of 

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running the same type of running
actions every day, everybody. 

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I know it's easy to, you know, 
essentially not take the 

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statistics that you rack up 
against FIU seriously, but 

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Indiana last night, this is the 
official rushing per like the 

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average per rush, 40 carries, 
234 yards, 5.85 yards per rush. 

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The last time IU had that good 
of a rushing attack was the game

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at Michigan State in 2022. 
That that bizarre game. 

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And a lot of that was like Jalen
Lucas breaking that huge run 

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where they chucked off like 80 
yards. 

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The last time they had that high
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against Idaho. 
But if you go back and try to 

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find a game where Indiana rushed
for more than 5.85 yards against

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an FBS opponent, you actually, 
believe it or not, have to go 

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all the way back to 2019 when 
Indiana played Rutgers when they

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averaged 6.84 yards per carry. 
So. 

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And is you anybody really 
breaking a lot of like 80 yard 

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runs, right? 
Yeah, that was the thing. 

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I mean, you know, it was 
impressive I think yesterday 

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about the way the rushing attack
worked was that it was a lot of 

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a lot of five to six yard gains,
but it was pretty consistent. 

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And they had a couple that were 
better than that obviously and 

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that was nice to see. 
But I I just look at it and I'm 

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like, you look at the mixer. 
Which is something to feel like 

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we just haven't had for years. 
Like it's like we will just run 

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up the middle. 
We get stopped and like our 

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rushing comes from like when 
there's just a complete 

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breakdown and then we we have an
80 yard run. 

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And like you really didn't see 
that. 

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Like you saw a team that looked 
like they knew how to run, run 

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to the holes, make blocks and 
and make openings. 

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Because 5 or 6 yard runs to me 
consistently is almost more 

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impressive than getting 180 yard
run 'cause that's normally just 

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a blown coverage or somebody 
made a mistake that you can't, 

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you can't help on every single 
game. 

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Right. 
The other thing that is 

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impressive is that Indiana had 
three players with well, I'm 

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going to take Curtis Work out of
this cause all of his runs were 

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essentially either scrambles or 
sacks. 

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But 3 running backs with at 
least 5 yards, 3 running backs 

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with at least 50 yards, excuse 
me, 5 carries, 50 yards. 

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So Elijah Green, 5 carries for 
82 yards and a touchdown. 

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Tyson Lawton, 16 carries, 74 
yards, 2 touchdowns. 

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Justice Ellison 10 carries, 68 
yards. 

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You know, so to be able to 
spread it out, and I'll note all

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three of those players were not 
here last year. 

446
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You know, Elijah Green transfers
in from North Carolina, 5th year

447
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,760
player Tyson Lawton came from 
James Madison, but he was at 

448
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,440
Stony Brook for three years 
before that. 

449
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,160
And then Justice Ellison was at 
Wake Forest for the last four 

450
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,720
years before coming here. 
And you know, these are all 

451
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,440
essentially this is Indiana's 
rushing attack right now. 

452
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,400
So even that, it's like, well, 
here's 3 capable ball handlers, 

453
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,920
you know, three guys that you 
can give the ball to, three guys

454
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,720
who I think everybody was 
wondering how are they going to 

455
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,560
fit into this attack? 
And I still don't think we know.

456
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,000
But for all three of them to be 
that effective when Indiana has 

457
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,600
struggled to have any running 
backs being effective for any 

458
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,920
length of time in some of the 
previous seasons, that was good 

459
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,840
to see. 
The other thing on the offense 

460
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,640
I'll mention, so we're we're 
driving down, we're listening to

461
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,200
your preview with Taylor from 
bite sized Bison. 

462
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,360
So there second time we'll try 
and get like 5-5 mentions in a a

463
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,080
podcast because Taylor is 
awesome and as is bite sized 

464
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,720
bison. 
But like I'm like asking the the

465
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,360
boys. 
My, my oldest son is starting to

466
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,640
get into podcast. 
He likes like NB, he's NBA guy, 

467
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,960
like NBA podcast. 
I'm like, hey, do you want to 

468
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,320
listen to a preview for for this
for this game? 

469
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,160
And he's like, yeah, he's like, 
this is the podcast you're on. 

470
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,560
I was like, we yeah, but I'm not
on it. 

471
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,720
And we start playing. 
He's like, oh, that's your buddy

472
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,240
Galen. 
He's like, he sounds really 

473
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,960
chill. 
He's a good podcast like. 

474
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,880
He doesn't you, you haven't been
to a game with Galen. 

475
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,680
Like not chill in a game. 
I will say I have new seats this

476
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,440
year, as I do every year, mostly
because of my lack of chill in 

477
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,680
the stadium. 
But I was pretty chill in this 

478
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,360
game. 
And I'm fortunate in that 

479
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,840
there's at least three people in
my section who are significantly

480
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,560
louder than I am right now. 
And there's still early seasons 

481
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,600
early, My friend. 
I am trying to take a new 

482
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,440
approach in the stadium. 
I really am. 

483
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,480
I I need to chill out more and 
just to relax and I'm new era. 

484
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,080
I'm gonna try to dial it down. 
Just gonna try to vibe with 

485
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,480
what's going on in the stadium. 
The only time I got mad like 

486
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,080
really mad the whole game was 
that ridiculous roughing the 

487
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,560
passer penalty that they called 
in the first quarter. 

488
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,320
I think it was like that was 
that was worth yelling about. 

489
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,720
But the rest of it your your son
is correct. 

490
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,440
I'm actually very chill now. 
This is. 

491
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,960
James So James thinks you're 
chill? 

492
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,000
James is definitely a a fan of 
Chill Galen. 

493
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,920
This. 
Is the one love era of Galen 

494
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,320
Clavio? 
So but you guys, you and Taylor 

495
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,400
were talking about kind of 
lamenting the days when we would

496
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,640
pass the tight ends and we would
pass the ball around and then it

497
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,240
was great to see. 
You look at the receiving, how 

498
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,120
that was passed around. 
There are there's 87 receivers 

499
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,600
who got receptions yesterday, 
three of which Zach Horton are 

500
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,960
tight end, great little plays 
for 36 yards a touchdown. 

501
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,440
And you know, again, I'm reading
into this. 

502
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,360
I'm very positive with what I'm 
seeing. 

503
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,680
But it felt like they ran those 
plays to Horton and it's like, 

504
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,240
oh, those work. 
Like, all right, we're done 

505
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,960
doing that. 
Like we're not going to do any 

506
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,360
more of that and show that on 
tape. 

507
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,440
Like we'll save that for UCLA or
Big 10. 

508
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,360
Because all three of his plays, 
he was wide open. 

509
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,720
It's like he was just wide open.
But it was really nice to see us

510
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,520
pass the ball around, pass to a 
tight end, have a passing attack

511
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,880
that seemed to be. 
Calculated as opposed to just 

512
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,440
kind of throwing it to wherever 
we can, you know, while we're 

513
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,960
trying to get it out. 
Yeah, no, I one of the things 

514
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840
that stuck out to me just in 
general about the game was 

515
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:37,240
everything felt competent and 
measured and that it's hard. 

516
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,320
It's a hard thing. 
And I think for for many people,

517
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,240
it's likely to be something that
they don't acknowledge. 

518
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,000
Because I think I'm trying to 
think of how to delicately put 

519
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,920
this. 
A lot of people don't carefully 

520
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,560
watch the games and I don't 
blame them 'cause I mean, you 

521
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,880
really have to watch a lot of 
football over a long period of 

522
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,960
time. 
And, and I think be focused on 

523
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,320
like what the full equation is 
supposed to look like with it. 

524
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680
And, and most fans are just not 
armed to do that. 

525
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,760
I'm I'm and it took me a long 
time to even get to the point 

526
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,800
where I felt close to doing 
that, But I was really happy 

527
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,720
with how this was not like let's
throw the kitchen sink at 

528
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,840
everybody and try to like show 
how much we can do. 

529
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040
It really did feel like, 
especially after the second 

530
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,080
touchdown Dr. and really even 
the second touchdown Dr. itself,

531
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,720
it was like, we're not going to 
just go down the field. 

532
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,360
Let's try all these things out. 
Like you were saying, let's see 

533
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,120
what works. 
Let's see what how we're doing. 

534
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,760
And, you know, I think there 
were clearly things that needed 

535
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,120
to be fixed with that. 
And, and the penalties were a 

536
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,640
big one. 
I actually think Indiana could 

537
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,000
have rushed for like 400 yards 
in this game if they wanted to. 

538
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,720
But they purposefully ended some
drives preliminarily because 

539
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800
they were trying to get their 
passing game working and they 

540
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,200
were trying to see what they 
could do. 

541
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,320
And look, I, you know, I think 
some people, a lot of the, the 

542
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,920
messages I got from good 
football observers afterwards 

543
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,040
were like, well, Rourke still 
seems like Atba and I, I think 

544
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080
we'll see. 
And it may be a situation where,

545
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,720
you know, maybe Rourke is, is a 
TBD in terms of how good he 

546
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,160
actually is. 
But I thought he looked good. 

547
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,640
I thought his fakes looked good.
You know, he, he had a very 

548
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,120
mechanical approach in the 
pocket, which I think will 

549
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:20,800
contribute well to making the 
RPO sell better. 

550
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,120
He seems to have the arm. 
A lot of the balls that were put

551
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,920
right where they needed to be 
were just dropped. 

552
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,560
You know, there were several 
drops where, you know, I'm just 

553
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,560
yeah, I think the the first drop
I was like, well, that's too 

554
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,840
bad. 
By the third one, I was like, 

555
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,480
really? 
And then there was even one 

556
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,320
later in the game where, you 
know, there was a nice 

557
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,760
completion or should have been a
completion. 

558
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,920
I think the miles price over the
middle that he dropped and it's 

559
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,200
like it's right there. 
I think that'll get fixed. 

560
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,800
But I'll also say I think it was
interesting how if you look at 

561
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,520
the way the stats broke down, 
Indiana really did not try to 

562
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,200
target their their best 
receivers very often. 

563
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280
Donovan Mccully. 
I actually was texting with with

564
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,520
Taylor at one point during the 
game. 

565
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,120
I was like, has Mccully even 
been targeted yet? 

566
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,960
Now literally as I hit the send 
button, they threw the ball to 

567
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Mccully and he caught that ball 
for 9 yards. 

568
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,160
But I don't know if he got 
targeted again the rest of the 

569
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,800
game. 
Like he was just kind of out 

570
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,840
there as part of the collection.
Elijah Sarat saying thing. 

571
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,920
With an with an injury, right? 
He was like, not medically 

572
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,080
clear. 
And it was right. 

573
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,720
It was right when that that that
happened. 

574
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,600
He didn't come back, but you 
know, but it was just it was 

575
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
interesting with Sarat, the same
thing where it's like they're 

576
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,440
they were targeting different 
people. 

577
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520
It was great to see Zach Horton,
the tight end, the transfer from

578
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,080
JMU get in there and and catch a
couple of balls over the middle.

579
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,560
And it was just cool to see the 
tight end position being used 

580
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,040
again. 
That was nice. 

581
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,360
But you know, they they clearly 
were, you know, they there's 

582
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,640
more things that have to do with
the passing attack. 

583
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,280
The blocking is going to have to
get a little bit better and I 

584
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,000
just think the timing is going 
to have to get better and 

585
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,840
obviously the catches are going 
to have to be there. 

586
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,480
But overall, given that they 
didn't need to show anything 

587
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,920
else, you know, I think people 
were hoping for maybe a bigger 

588
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,640
blowout. 
And I certainly love big 

589
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,080
blowouts in these sorts of 
things. 

590
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,840
But at the end of the day, they 
covered, they win 31 to 7 and 

591
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,000
they were in control the entire 
game. 

592
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400
And a large part of that, Scott,
I guess the flip sides of the 

593
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,440
ball was on the defense and the 
defense really did look awesome.

594
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,720
And I think it's what's really 
fascinating to me is most of the

595
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040
statistical leaders on the 
defensive side were not guys 

596
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,120
that were here last year. 
You know, you, you go down the 

597
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640
list. 
Aiden Fisher, transfer from JMU,

598
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,600
led the team in tackles, had 12 
total tackles, had four solo 

599
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600
tackles, had a sack. 
You know, he so he he's a 

600
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,800
transfer from JMU. 
Jalen Walker, transfer from JMU.

601
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,120
He was the second leading 
tackler. 

602
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,800
D'Angelo Pons, another transfer 
from JMU, third leading tackler.

603
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Sean Asbury, transfer from Old 
Dominion was, was high on the 

604
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120
list of tackles. 
Tyreke Tucker was a a James 

605
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,240
Madison transfer. 
Like the only guy in that list 

606
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,280
of tacklers that was here last 
year was Isaiah Jones, the 

607
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040
linebacker. 
He he didn't play very much at 

608
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,120
all last year. 
He had two total tackles last 

609
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,440
year he had six. 
Sorry, that was two years ago. 

610
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,880
That wasn't even last year. 
So the the import of talent 

611
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840
really showed out early and 
there were guys I think that we 

612
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,880
were expecting to see play that 
just didn't get much play at all

613
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560
in this game. 
Now you know it. 

614
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,040
I mean, there was a a big play 
made by one of the walk ONS in 

615
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,720
this game. 
It's really interesting, like 

616
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,920
how there's a tiered system it 
appears already in terms of who 

617
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Cignetti's going to play on 
defense, what players are 

618
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,240
getting opportunities, what 
schemes are being run. 

619
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,960
And I think that's it. 
It's just revealing with so many

620
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,400
players that were on the team 
last year, most of the 

621
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,160
statistical standouts came from 
people who weren't on the team 

622
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,280
last year. 
Yeah. 

623
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,920
No, I mean, and the defense was,
was swarming. 

624
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,320
I was going to say this, there 
probably is a stat for this now.

625
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,360
But the thing that I was very 
happy to see that had kind of 

626
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,160
gone away and is always my, my 
indicator of how well the IU 

627
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,840
defense is playing is there's 
the first defender who touches 

628
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,920
the other team, tackle the guy. 
Because for so many years we've 

629
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160
seen it where it's like you go 
and you know, they go for the 

630
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160
tackle and they grab them and 
it's like he just pulls away. 

631
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,080
And then it's like if he breaks 
3 tackles, he's gone. 

632
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,720
Our, our first guy who tried to 
tackle was tackling most of the 

633
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,040
time, which is good. 
But you look at, you know, it 

634
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160
it, it's also the offense. 
The offense held the ball for a 

635
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600
lot. 
But you know, FIU, their first 

636
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,200
four drives, it was 3/3 and out 
-5 yards 6 and out with 16 

637
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,280
yards, 5 and out 16 yards. 
They did get a touchdown in 

638
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,480
their last drive. 
They only had four drives in the

639
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040
first half, only one drive in 
the second-half. 

640
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,400
In the second quarter, 12 yards,
they only had two drives that 

641
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,520
had more than 10 plays. 
And the second one that, you 

642
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
know, 1 was a touchdown for 12 
plays. 

643
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,920
The other one in the third 
quarter that had 10 plays was an

644
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,880
interception. 
I mean, so their, their drive 

645
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,200
chart for Florida International 
was all under 10 plays. 

646
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,560
You know, the Indiana kept them 
off the off the offense kept 

647
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,200
them from running any kind of 
drives and everything was three 

648
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,880
and out or six and out. 
It was really a a pretty 

649
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,560
stifling defense that had kind 
of one laps and that was it. 

650
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,920
No, it was it was impressive. 
And it it again, it it like you,

651
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,440
I I love blowout wins, but you 
know, it's kind of fun. 

652
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,920
I came home and then I watched 
UCLA and Hawaii and no great 

653
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,880
shakes there. 
You know, we're we're probably 

654
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
not going to see another blowout
against Western Illinois. 

655
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,280
It does feel like this team, 
this IU team is kind of keeping 

656
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
things close to the vest. 
But watching UCLA, it's like I 

657
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,960
watched that. 
It's like I don't I don't see 

658
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080
how they're much better or worse
than we are. 

659
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Right. 
Yeah. 

660
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,280
UCLA looked pretty bad. 
I mean, they they had to really 

661
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,360
pull something out at the end 
there against I guess Hawaii 

662
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,960
last night. 
I mean, here's the thing I I was

663
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,400
thinking about this like there 
were some teams that really did 

664
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,160
struggle quite a bit. 
There were others that did not. 

665
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,240
But I think for Indiana in 
particular with its particular 

666
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,680
set of circumstances, you 
almost, it's a completely 

667
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,760
different equation from most of 
the other teams in the Big 10, 

668
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,680
UCL as A-Team. 
That's kind of in the same boat 

669
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,280
as IUI. 
Mean, you get a little bit of 

670
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320
credit because they were playing
on the road and that that's a 

671
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,240
long flight to Hawaii, 
obviously. 

672
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,920
But they had some continuity, 
whereas I us had very little 

673
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280
continuity in terms of their 
coaching staff, in terms of the 

674
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,800
players that are out there. 
I mean, it's just like a brand 

675
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,600
new team out there. 
I mean, think about on offense 

676
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,240
too. 
You know, it, it wasn't it 

677
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,840
wasn't just the defense where I 
think 7 like 7 like six of his 

678
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,920
top eight or seven of the top 9 
tacklers weren't here last year.

679
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,680
But on offense, you know, Curtis
Work starting quarterback, but 

680
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
wasn't here. 
Elijah Dream, Tyson Lott and 

681
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Justice Ellison, Miles Price not
here last year. 

682
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Zach Horton, not here last year.
Miles Cross, I don't believe was

683
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,600
here last year. 
You know, I mean, it was like 

684
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,200
Omar Cooper Junior I think is 
the only guy that was back out 

685
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,400
of the statistical leaders on 
offense and. 

686
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080
In the postgame radio and they 
talked to one of the players at 

687
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,880
JMU transfer and he was talking 
about how like, yeah, we're 

688
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560
trying to, you know, we're 
trying to keep the, the, the 

689
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,240
we're trying to push the JMU, 
you know, ethos here in Indiana.

690
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240
It's not like we're trying to 
push, you know, Indiana on JMU. 

691
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,000
It's like, no, JMU is trying to 
push Indiana on, you know, on to

692
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,159
Indiana. 
So it really is a, an 

693
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:10,360
interesting spot. 
Like you said. 

694
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,120
I mean, it's 95% of the 
contributors in the game 

695
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,159
yesterday were not here last 
year. 

696
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,080
And it wasn't just JMU people. 
I think this is the important 

697
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,920
thing because that's they've 
they've dominated the 

698
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600
conversation. 
But it's like the ACC guys and 

699
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,480
the the Mac guys, you know, I 
was who was the other one that I

700
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,080
saw CJ W who was at Kent last 
year. 

701
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,080
It's just, I think it's less 
the, the JMU ethos as we've 

702
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,120
heard talked about and like that
level of work that has been what

703
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,480
they wanted to bring in. 
But it's also been just the 

704
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,800
basic concept of you're going to
practice hard and you're going 

705
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,000
to bring it in practice or 
you're not going to play. 

706
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,960
And it does kind of feel like 
there's some churn going on 

707
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,600
where it's like, well, if, if, 
if what we saw out there is an 

708
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480
indication of who's playing hard
in practice. 

709
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,920
And those are the people that 
got the opportunities. 

710
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,800
It does say a lot about the 
status of the roster that 

711
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360
Signetti took over and where 
they're still at in terms of 

712
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,800
trying to get all those people 
on the same page from an output 

713
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,400
perspective. 
And this is, you know, the the 

714
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,880
last thing I'll say about one of
the last things I'll say about 

715
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,400
the game is, you know, you saw 
it in the end of the game where 

716
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,520
and again, it's a different 
talent, you know, breakdown 

717
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,440
here. 
But you also have a team from 

718
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Florida where they should be 
used to hotter, you know, hotter

719
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,360
sunny or weather. 
It looked like for international

720
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,880
was kind of just wilting and 
getting tired. 

721
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,600
They were just kind of walking 
around on defense. 

722
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,440
We had one of our explosive, you
know, runs at that point. 

723
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,960
I think it's a good sign that, 
you know, it felt like we were 

724
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,680
continuing to kind of almost 
like a, you know, a, a, a snake 

725
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,000
like constricting on that team. 
And it did look like if that, 

726
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,880
you know, the game went another 
quarter, we would have won, you 

727
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,280
know, 64 to 7. 
Like it didn't look like Florida

728
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,280
International was bringing 
anything more like they were 

729
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,800
beat down. 
They were tired. 

730
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,640
It was nice to see that we were 
not tired. 

731
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,280
You know, obviously they're 
doing the right thing in the 

732
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
offseason in the workouts 
because we look like, I don't 

733
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,680
say we're getting stronger, but 
we we look like we were keeping 

734
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000
up the intensity throughout the 
entire game. 

735
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520
And we definitely, you know, 
broke and wore out for 

736
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,560
international, which again, no 
great shakes. 

737
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,720
Maybe one of the worst teams 
we're going to play this year, 

738
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000
but we we still did it and that 
was impressive. 

739
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,160
So you know, Indiana, as they as
they recap what goes on in this,

740
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,040
there's, there's clearly a lot 
of things that they'll want to 

741
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920
fix. 
And the nice thing is they've 

742
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,000
got another week to fix those 
things. 

743
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Half the. 
Almost a week? 

744
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,240
Well. 
I, I actually kind of like that 

745
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,720
even better because, you know, 
they're gonna have to do a short

746
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,320
week, which means they're 
largely gonna stick to, I'm 

747
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520
guessing many of the same things
that they were planning on doing

748
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,480
in this game. 
They'll be a weaker opponent 

749
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,080
that they'll play in this next 
game, which should allow them to

750
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,400
do a little bit more in terms of
getting timing down. 

751
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,360
And, and I think that's the 
thing it, it was so many of the 

752
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,400
mistakes that were 
self-inflicted on offense were 

753
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,600
really, as I said earlier, they 
were detail oriented things as 

754
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,720
opposed to what we can't execute
against this FIU team. 

755
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,960
And the defense just in general,
I think that is that is a 

756
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,160
renewable resource when it comes
to football. 

757
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,520
If your defense goes and shuts 
down the opposition in such a 

758
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,480
way, again, they'll have a lot 
of opportunities to try think 

759
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,720
some different coverages out and
some different approaches and 

760
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,920
what they're doing, but also 
maybe to get some more depth out

761
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,240
there. 
And you'll also get an extra 

762
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,480
week where it's like, well, OK, 
you've seen we mean business 

763
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,440
when we talk about you're going 
to have to practice hard if 

764
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,480
you're going to be on this team 
again. 

765
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,480
It's like it's a gradual 
building of culture and a 

766
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,680
gradual changing of ethos. 
And for IUI think that's so 

767
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,280
important because it was so 
clear in the last couple of 

768
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,360
years, really the last three 
years of the Allen era that the 

769
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,640
culture, something in the 
culture had broken. 

770
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,240
And the the level of output you 
were getting out of players was 

771
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,800
it was not just a matter of 
we're making mistakes. 

772
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,840
A lot of it was we're just not 
executing properly. 

773
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,080
And so it's, you need this 
sharpening. 

774
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,640
And this is where this whole 
month of May, of May, the whole 

775
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,880
month of September May end up 
being like, I don't know, 

776
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
there's been a more critical 
month in terms of an early 

777
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,840
trajectory of an IU team in a 
while. 

778
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,560
Like we talked about this in our
preview podcast where it's like,

779
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,640
you know, you can get off to a 
good start and you can win while

780
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,840
you're fixing things and getting
things into shape. 

781
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,960
You really do set yourself up 
for a good rest of the season. 

782
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,320
If you can get through these 
first four games, four and O or 

783
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,440
even 3 and one with a close 
loss, that's what I saw in the 

784
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680
game against Florida 
International tells me that that

785
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,200
pathway is possible. 
I mean, we talked kind of, I 

786
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480
don't say talking out of our 
butts or anything like that, but

787
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,120
we a lot of it was what we think
this is how this is going to go.

788
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,040
We'll see how it actually goes, 
but we hope that this is the 

789
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200
direction we're going to bank on
that as being what happens. 

790
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Well, having seen what we saw in
this first game, with the caveat

791
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,040
that there's still a lot to work
on, it does feel like the 

792
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000
trajectory that we've talked 
about is possible. 

793
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,200
Because again, you look around 
college football and the Big 10 

794
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,240
in particular, and I'm just not 
seeing the level of dominance 

795
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,760
from a lot of the other teams in
the conference. 

796
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,240
And I think Indiana, there's 
there's a talent level there and

797
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:09,320
there's a mental approach that 
seems to be setting the scene 

798
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880
for the ability to build on it 
as they move through the season.

799
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,400
And that is about as much as you
could have asked for, I think, 

800
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,720
coming out of the first game of 
this new era. 

801
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Yeah, I'll, I'll go back to 
something you said earlier that 

802
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,320
I definitely felt, just felt 
professional and like a Workman 

803
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,440
like attitude. 
And you know, we if you go back 

804
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,760
and look at some of, you know, 
Signetti's teams and James 

805
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Madison, they didn't run, they 
ran a more dynamic offense than 

806
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
we saw yesterday. 
And so that that's the other 

807
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,240
thing is like I, I would be 
shocked if this is all we see 

808
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,840
from the offense all year, like 
we're going to see more. 

809
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,320
They definitely kept some stuff 
in reserve. 

810
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,760
And so no, I, I, I agree with 
you and I, I look at this as 

811
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,440
like, all right, walked away, be
like, all right, we're we're 

812
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,320
going to be 3 and one worst case
going into game 4, which I, I 

813
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,320
don't think I felt as as good 
about some of those Gimme games 

814
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,400
last the last couple of years 
based on where the team was. 

815
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,120
And I, I'm with you. 
I think that's a good thing. 

816
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,400
And it also feels like, you 
know, some of those kind of, you

817
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,480
know. 
Announcers speak things that 

818
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,360
you're like, oh, the most, the 
biggest improvement you see is 

819
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,280
from week 1 to week, from week 1
to week two. 

820
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,840
It felt like we never really met
those things in football. 

821
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,920
It's like, well, but not an IU, 
We don't, we don't seem to do 

822
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,800
that. 
It feels like maybe we are going

823
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,800
to start doing some of those 
things or like a real program 

824
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,080
has real improvement from week 
one to two. 

825
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Maybe we'll see that. 
Maybe we see it in week three 

826
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,760
against UCLA. 
But it does feel like, oh, we 

827
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,840
might be on the trajectory of a 
real football team. 

828
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,200
It's like Pinocchio, Galen, the 
the, it's turned into a real 

829
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,400
boy. 
We have a real team. 

830
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,760
But no, it, it does feel like we
might, you know, the, the, it it

831
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,880
again, I'll go back to the math.
It feels like there's a steady 

832
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,880
hand on the wheel kind of 
leading this thing. 

833
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,880
Well, we'll see what happens. 
I mean, obviously, you know, 

834
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,000
you're not going to learn a lot 
new in terms of how good the 

835
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,320
team is on Friday. 
This is more about all right, 

836
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,640
let's sharpen what we've got and
figure out where things are AT 

837
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,560
and try to avoid injuries. 
I mean, the the only other 

838
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480
things I'll note statistically 
that we're worthwhile out of 

839
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,360
this game. 
No turnovers. 

840
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,160
You know, that was nice. 
There were a couple of fumbles, 

841
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,800
but they weren't lost. 
I don't they weren't even 

842
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,160
actually recorded as fumbles. 
You did get the one 

843
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,040
interception, which that was 
nice. 

844
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,880
So Indiana did turn FIU over 
once that Yeah, you know, the, 

845
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
the no turnovers thing is almost
more important to me than the 

846
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,480
penalties. 
The penalties weren't great. 9 

847
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,960
penalties, 80 yards and and just
some sloppiness on the 

848
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040
penalties. 
It also didn't help, frankly, 

849
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,200
that I'm not sure if any member 
of that officiating team had 

850
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,840
ever officiated a football game 
before that. 

851
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,800
That was a that was a struggle 
and not, not just with bad 

852
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,760
calls, There were a few of 
those, but just like the basics 

853
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,560
of hey, where should the ball be
or hey, what was the clock 

854
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,240
supposed to be? 
Or that that whole stupidity 

855
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,000
with the lateral towards the end
of the game, it's I mean, just 

856
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,560
like stuff like that where I'm 
just like, what is going on with

857
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,840
this crew? 
I will say, watching a lot of 

858
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,240
college football this weekend, 
that was a problem everywhere. 

859
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,600
It wasn't just limited here, but
I, I, so I don't know how much 

860
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,920
of the penalties are actually 
penalties that wouldn't get 

861
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,840
called, but were in this case 
and how many of it was something

862
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,120
that actually needed to be 
fixed. 

863
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,040
But that is certainly something 
that they're going to have some 

864
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,960
improvement in. 
It's one of the maybe it's a 

865
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,880
good offseason pod. 
It's like it's all this stuff 

866
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,800
happens, all this money, all 
these conference changes and NIL

867
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,640
money. 
Like at some point maybe we have

868
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,200
professional refs, like for a 2 
to $3 billion industry that's 

869
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,400
putting out a product, like 
maybe we don't have guys who 

870
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600
were just, you know, contracted 
and working 12 games. 

871
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,440
That's a totally different, you 
know, totally different 

872
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,920
discussion. 
The other thing I would say is 

873
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,920
the numbers weren't, you know, 
eye popping, but James Evan at 

874
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,640
punter, his punts, you know, he 
only had three of them, but they

875
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,640
were really high as punch should
be. 

876
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,400
But just he was, he looked crisp
and that the punting unit looked

877
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,480
good to something I listen to on
the pot, your podcast coming 

878
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,280
down, just how special teams 
always seem to make a mistake 

879
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,520
along the way. 
We didn't have a special teams 

880
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,720
mistake yesterday either. 
And that was nice to see. 

881
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Yeah. 
I mean just little things, 

882
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,280
little, little detail. 
We've talked about this for 

883
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560
years with the Allen era, we 
talked about it with the Wilson 

884
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,520
era, we talked about it with the
all the eras, all the eras. 

885
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,240
The details are the devil for 
Indiana and to watch Indiana 

886
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,440
have a pretty good day where you
know what what problems they had

887
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,600
detail wise. 
It didn't really hurt that much 

888
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,760
and they were able to do a lot 
of good things, especially with 

889
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,040
run blocking. 
I I was so impressed with just 

890
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,440
the little subtle things that 
opened up holes in the run 

891
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,920
blocking game for IU. 
There's so much to build off of.

892
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,200
I'm just really excited about 
it. 

893
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,600
So any final thoughts from you, 
Scott or anything else that was 

894
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,840
worth noting for in terms of the
on the field play? 

895
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,560
No, I want to talk atmosphere, 
but no, not on the field, no. 

896
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,360
Let's talk atmosphere. 
So I got to say I love the new 

897
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,720
section, the new student section
where they moved to start the 

898
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,800
game. 
I told my wife we were both 

899
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,320
like, this feels like a college 
game. 

900
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,280
Like I've been to tons of games 
in Royal Stadium. 

901
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,520
The the way the students were 
before. 

902
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,600
It's just a slight change. 
Just kind of moving the students

903
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200
to behind the end zone there on 
the North End. 

904
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,040
It it felt louder. 
You can hear the students 

905
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,800
starting chance and like it 
continued it it's going to be 

906
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,080
good. 
Like that's a really good 

907
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,080
change. 
I feel like the students have 

908
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,800
ownership over that section now.
It just I was like, wow, this 

909
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,760
feels like a really loud student
section that's way more involved

910
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,000
by just kind of adding that 
little ribbon because the other 

911
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,640
area is still there. 
I will also say like I I don't 

912
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,600
understand how things work 
sometimes my friend, because 

913
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,840
like Marlboro is still a company
that exists that is a multi 

914
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,640
billion dollar company. 
They don't sell as many 

915
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,920
cigarettes in the US. 
The the student section shirt, 

916
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560
the signetti with the Marlboro 
logo for those of us who are old

917
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680
enough like, oh, Penske and 
Marlboro, like I remember that 

918
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,800
logo. 
It's a great looking shirt. 

919
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Like I was like, that's awesome.
I'm also like how I I don't 

920
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,200
think I you got, you know, 
permission from Marlboro to use 

921
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,520
the logo. 
Like how was this possible 

922
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,240
without getting into a copyright
infringement thing? 

923
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,800
Not that I want to be captain 
bring down, but I just. 

924
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Mean. 
How does this stuff how how are 

925
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,680
you able to do this like this is
this is a big. 

926
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,800
I'm going to, for those of you 
who are on the YouTube channel, 

927
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,840
I'm showing you what this the 
shirt look like. 

928
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
So you have some visual aid. 
And yeah, it is an absolute 

929
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Marlboro RIP off. 
It looks like the top of a 

930
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,320
cigarette box. 
Yeah, it's great. 

931
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,120
I mean, look, I I love it. 
It looked awesome. 

932
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,240
It's fantastic. 
It's got like Elio's first 

933
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:30,280
winning car in Indy. 
It's fantastic. 

934
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,320
But I just, I see that and I'm 
like, how like do you want to 

935
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,640
use the Disney font too and just
go for like pissing off 

936
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,560
everybody who can sue you? 
But I I love it. 

937
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,880
It was awesome. 
It's a great start. 

938
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,320
But no, the, the students 
section where they were was 

939
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,200
awesome that the crowd at the 
beginning of the game, it was, 

940
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,320
it was a really good feel that 
probably the best feel for a 

941
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,000
game of that kind of opponent I 
can remember in a long time. 

942
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560
I, I, I, I word it that way 
because obviously, like, you 

943
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,960
know, first games you played 
Ohio State a couple times, like 

944
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,280
that's a great crowd, but just 
for a, for kind of a nondescript

945
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,560
first opponent, that was a 
pretty fired up crowd. 

946
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Yeah, and I mean, it wasn't a 
huge crowd. 

947
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:10,320
I mean they announced attendance
was I think 44,000 something. 

948
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,840
There were definitely not many 
people in the southeast corner 

949
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,240
of the stadium and the 
attendance was even a little bit

950
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,680
pumped up because it was band 
today. 

951
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840
So you had a bunch of high 
school kids with instruments in 

952
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,040
the stands. 
But I'll say this, I think the I

953
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,520
agree with you, I was sitting 
very close to the student 

954
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,080
section. 
There was a lot of energy on 

955
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,400
that side of the field. 
I thought that overall the in 

956
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,400
game experience was good. 
You know, it was a pretty 

957
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,960
constant flow of energy 
throughout. 

958
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,320
It really never felt like it 
lulled too badly until about the

959
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,440
third quarter. 
The overall presentation was 

960
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,080
good. 
Like the introduction was nice. 

961
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,480
There was a, you know, the, the 
coming out to Thunderstruck and 

962
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,960
it, it felt like a little more 
of an occasion. 

963
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,040
So you know, then, then, but 
it's also, it was like middle of

964
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,800
the afternoon. 
So it was you didn't have the 

965
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,360
full dramatics of coming out at 
night and things like that. 

966
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,840
Well, the thing that I'll say 
with that, I, I, I, I wrote a 

967
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,360
note about that. 
Like I, I remember going to the 

968
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,960
Iowa game. 
I think they play, they play it 

969
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,600
back in black to enter. 
It's like you can tell they've 

970
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,280
been playing that for years, 
right? 

971
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,840
And everyone's fired up and they
know, oh, this is the sound. 

972
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,160
It's like, you know, Metallica, 
you know, like Enter Sandman for

973
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,360
Mariano Rivera coming in. 
And I, I, I took a note like 

974
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,720
this is the problem of kind of a
lack of consistency or any real 

975
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,400
ethos with IU footballs. 
You just, you have a different 

976
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,080
song every two or three years. 
You have a different intro set 

977
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,160
up. 
I'm with you. 

978
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,160
I also liked the intro. 
I liked having the video with a 

979
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,280
minute left kind of doing the, 
the, you know, the the Mets 

980
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,560
closer horn song. 
I like all that, but it's like 

981
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,880
we need to stick with again, we 
need to coach, we need something

982
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,840
just kind of stay and stick 
because all this stuff is good. 

983
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,680
But we've done Metallica before.
We've done all of these songs 

984
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,320
before we and they keep 
changing. 

985
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,800
And I think fans like just the 
only thing that stays is like 

986
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,280
that stupid first down March and
like the up and down arms, like 

987
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,800
somehow that that won't go away.
And the Jaws theme on 3rd down, 

988
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,600
third down. 
Those will not go away. 

989
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,160
But I agree with you. 
I liked it, but it doesn't 

990
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,240
resonate because it's like, oh, 
it's always new. 

991
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,000
And it's like, oh, well, we'll 
have a, you know, a new one in 

992
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,520
three years. 
But anyway, it's just like 

993
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,280
that's where we need some 
consistency with football, but 

994
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,000
it it will come with success. 
Anyway, sorry, I interrupted. 

995
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,680
You no, it's a good point and 
it's one of those where it does 

996
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,120
feel like we hit the reset 
button like every three years on

997
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,240
the in stadium experience. 
So it's like this time it's 

998
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,560
going to be better and it's 
rarely the problem of the 

999
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,480
experience itself. 
It's that it never mores to any 

1000
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,080
success on the field. 
And and so you end up people 

1001
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,560
really get down on the team, 
they're not there. 

1002
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,800
The the atmosphere is bad 
because of that. 

1003
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,600
And then you got to build it 
back up again. 

1004
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,960
And so you almost have to do the
reset regularly. 

1005
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,960
And I think that'll continue to 
happen until Indiana just has a 

1006
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,640
5 or 6 year run where they're 
successful all the time. 

1007
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,000
And that that will really be I 
think the key element as we 

1008
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,160
think about all this moving 
forward. 

1009
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,880
But I thought for for an A 
reopening I guess on. 

1010
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,920
The outside team, it was good 
walking in the tunnel, which I 

1011
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,840
always think is cool. 
Yep, yeah, it's there's just, 

1012
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,480
there's a lot of little quality 
of life and there's, there's 

1013
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,080
other things that go on behind 
the scenes. 

1014
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,960
I think the video board shows 
are better just in general, you 

1015
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,360
know, there'll be, there's some 
kinks to work out, but they, 

1016
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,720
they tried to make the on field 
promotions a bit more fun, as 

1017
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,520
fun as you can make on field 
promotions. 

1018
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,320
I think on field, on field 
promotions like that was one of 

1019
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,200
those things that like in the 
80s and 90s, it's like, oh, 

1020
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,960
guess what? 
We could have people come on the

1021
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,720
playing surface and then and 
then everybody's tired of it by 

1022
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,120
now. 
So within what you can do there,

1023
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,120
it was nice to see. 
And then when we were in 

1024
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,040
college, they're like, we can 
bring people in inflatable 

1025
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,680
mascot costumes, like weird 
inflatable IU guys. 

1026
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,000
I will say that my 8 year old 
hot dog gun is high on his list 

1027
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,720
of things like that. 
Came out once and then was like 

1028
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,120
every time I was like, are they 
bringing the hot dog gun back 

1029
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,200
out? 
Like when's the hot dog gun 

1030
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,320
coming back out? 
Like I think that's one time 

1031
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,520
only my friend. 
Sorry, Gray. 

1032
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Let's talk about the rest of the
stadium though. 

1033
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,920
New a lot of new food options. 
Did you get a chance to to try 

1034
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,680
any of those out? 
I didn't. 

1035
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,160
But I did, we walked by a lot of
them. 

1036
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,360
I like the the quick that right 
out of our gate 8:00 they have a

1037
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,200
quick serve section where you 
can just grab and go, which is 

1038
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,160
like, Hey, this is a great idea 
for, you know, 2017. 

1039
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,120
Like I'm happy we brought this 
in a lot of new vendors that, 

1040
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,440
that I saw, which is really 
good. 

1041
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,880
So I, I like, I like that 
they're doing that to me. 

1042
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,400
The quick serve thing was, was 
so necessarily needed just a 

1043
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,320
spot to grab popcorn, hot dogs, 
drinks and beers. 

1044
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,840
And they've also, they zigzag 
the lines. 

1045
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,360
It used to be the lines just go 
straight out on the concourse, 

1046
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,960
which would create this huge 
mess. 

1047
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,760
They kind of zigzagged them. 
So a lot of nice little things 

1048
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,680
like that, which I thought were 
this, Oh no, I was very happy to

1049
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,520
see all of those. 
Things yeah, I I found the 

1050
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,480
social cantina tent that was 
nice and got a chick got some 

1051
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,880
tacos over there and got I mean 
it was just it was good overall.

1052
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Like they're all the all the old
favorites are there there's some

1053
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,200
new stuff there. 
Buffalo Louie's has a stand on 

1054
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,360
the the concourse area right 
when you enter on the the very 

1055
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,440
North End of the stadium. 
And that was pretty much hopping

1056
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,040
the whole time. 
So it was just it was neat to 

1057
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,400
see all those different options.
I will pause for a minute and 

1058
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,120
just remind everybody that we 
had a great tailgate before the 

1059
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,160
the game started. 
And that was in large part due 

1060
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,080
to being able to enjoy it with 
Who's Your Game Day Logger, the 

1061
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,960
official beer of IU Athletics 
from Upland. 

1062
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,360
Who's Your Game Day Logger, 
sponsor of the podcast as well. 

1063
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,480
And just the iconic I was, I was
in line at Social Cantina and a 

1064
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,200
woman is coming up to her 
husband who's in line, who's 

1065
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,440
buying beer and he's asked what 
does she want? 

1066
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,800
And she says I want the candy 
stripe can beer. 

1067
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Didn't say who's your game day 
logger. 

1068
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,640
He said I want the candy stripe 
can beer. 

1069
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,360
But you know it when you see it 
folks, because it does have that

1070
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,800
candy stripe pattern on the can,
a really delicious, easy 

1071
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,840
drinking Vienna style lager. 
Absolutely something you need to

1072
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,800
have at your next tailgate. 
You can pick up who's your game 

1073
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,560
day lager at any of Uplands 
locations throughout Central IN.

1074
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,440
You can also pick up who's your 
game day lager at every big red 

1075
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,480
in Bloomington, pretty much 
anywhere that you can buy beer 

1076
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,600
within Central IN you're going 
to find who's your game day 

1077
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,000
lager. 
It's also available at the 

1078
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,920
stadium. 
So be sure to check out Who's 

1079
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,160
your game day lager next time 
you're in Memorial Stadium or in

1080
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,080
the parking lots getting ready 
to tailgate or out of the bar 

1081
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,360
getting ready to watch an IU 
game. 

1082
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,720
But no, I was pretty impressed 
with everything in terms of the 

1083
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,920
lines weren't too bad. 
Felt like there was a nice 

1084
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,200
traffic flow. 
I'm over on your side of the 

1085
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,960
stadium now again after a long 
hiatus and I I was pleased with 

1086
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,560
how everything was spaced out. 
I am interested to see what 

1087
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,320
happens when there's eight more 
1000 people in the stadium so 

1088
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,040
that. 
Thing is, like everything looks 

1089
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,520
good in these kind of 
environments. 

1090
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,800
Like the stress test comes when 
Maryland, Michigan or Ohio State

1091
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,200
comes and you, you're, you're 
suddenly pushing the limits. 

1092
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,280
Like then, it seems like that 
things fray at the end, but 

1093
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960
we'll we'll see. 
Yeah, Maryland is is probably 

1094
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,160
the because that's the best 
parents weekend. 

1095
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,120
So you're going to have a ton of
people in like it's already, if 

1096
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,480
you haven't bought parking 
passes folks yet for that 

1097
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Maryland game, I wish you a lot 
of luck. 

1098
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,240
They are, they are really, 
really expensive even on 

1099
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,400
SeatGeek right now. 
So keep an eye on that. 

1100
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,320
And as we move forward with, you
know, the, the look, I just, I 

1101
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,240
like the fact that IU continues 
to make small but meaningful 

1102
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:24,440
changes to the way the game day 
setup is, is working. 

1103
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,160
That's going to really be what 
is the key, I think, is adapting

1104
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,160
to that as they move forward. 
And it does, it is nice to see 

1105
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,560
so many of the local vendors now
in there doing what they're 

1106
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,680
doing. 
I think that makes a big 

1107
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,200
difference because I think 
everybody within the IU orbit 

1108
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:44,080
can agree the standard like IU 
concessions items are just not 

1109
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,320
good. 
They're, they're, and they 

1110
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,720
haven't been good for a long 
time. 

1111
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,440
It's nice to have something 
different and and actually tasty

1112
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,320
in the stadium. 
I, I, to the point that like, 

1113
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,400
you know me like I do a huge 
tailgate, we had, we had 

1114
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,120
probably over 100 people that 
came through the tailgate over 

1115
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,920
the course of the six hours we 
were out there. 

1116
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:03,400
And I was so intrigued by what 
was in the stadium from a food 

1117
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,880
perspective. 
I didn't even bother eating 

1118
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,800
lunch at my own tailgate. 
A bunch of other people did. 

1119
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,000
But I was like, I really want to
try at least something in there.

1120
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,360
And I, I'm glad I did. 
It was nice. 

1121
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,480
Good. 
Good for you. 

1122
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,880
Yeah. 
So I, you again want to know 

1123
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,760
they'll be taking on. 
We had we had one or two 

1124
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,160
questions that might be worth 
getting to. 

1125
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Let me let me track those down 
real quick. 

1126
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,800
So Patrick noted it's one game 
inevitably quote, don't want to 

1127
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,960
show too much, but thought run 
blocking was pop promising 

1128
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,160
thought pass protection was 
concerning and the work deep 

1129
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,880
ball incomplete data. 
There's there's something to be 

1130
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,600
said for that. 
But Patrick, I guess I'll go 

1131
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,080
back to what I was saying a 
little bit earlier. 

1132
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,920
A lot of it I think is I'm I'm 
choosing, at least for the 

1133
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,120
moment to say, let's not show 
too much of the playbook and 

1134
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,920
also let's work on short and 
intermediate stuff. 

1135
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,680
The pass protection does need to
get better. 

1136
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,080
And I think that that's that's 
going to be an interesting thing

1137
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,120
to see. 
I do think that in a game like 

1138
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,280
this where the pass protection 
isn't working, but the run 

1139
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,760
blocking is working so well, I 
think they probably just run the

1140
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,520
ball even more. 
Like IU almost look like they 

1141
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,320
put themselves in a position 
where they were going to be 

1142
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,640
likely to lose yardage because 
they wanted to see if they could

1143
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,560
run certain plays. 
I think if they were actually 

1144
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,400
trying to gain maximum yardage 
on every play in this game, the 

1145
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,080
play calling likely would have 
been different. 

1146
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,800
But it's still something that 
needs to get fixed as we move 

1147
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,920
forward that that's going to be 
an interesting thing to watch. 

1148
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,400
I agree with Patrick on the the 
I'm happy mentioned the pass. 

1149
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,160
The pass blocking was rough, 
like the pocket was never really

1150
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,760
clean for Rourke. 
I mean, the the positive side is

1151
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,360
work looks like he's able to 
move around the pocket very 

1152
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,080
well. 
He kind of he he doesn't get 

1153
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,840
stuck in a spot. 
He also has kind of a great up 

1154
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,000
and under move to get out of out
of sacks. 

1155
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Like he had four or five where 
he just kind of like just dips 

1156
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,200
down low and then comes back up 
and gets out of a sack. 

1157
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:59,240
But he he was, it was a very, 
very not clean pocket for F for 

1158
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:02,280
a team against FIU that you I'd 
like to see that cleaned up a 

1159
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,320
little bit. 
Yeah, no, it's there's so many 

1160
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
little things that are going to 
have to be fixed, but you'd 

1161
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,720
rather be in this position to 
fix them. 

1162
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,720
And that's really where I think 
we're at with everything. 

1163
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,760
Yeah, and I was wrong. 
That was the only questions we 

1164
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,160
had. 
Everything else was about 

1165
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080
tailgating and we've already 
talked about that. 

1166
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,800
So did you have, did you 
tailgate a bit before the game 

1167
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,840
did? 
And so we. 

1168
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,360
Came down and we we do not do 
what nothing close to what you 

1169
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,080
do. 
We are in the the Mack of 

1170
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480
tailgating or we're not ready to
go to the big, big time 

1171
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,840
conferences. 
I'm not no, we, we it was great,

1172
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,720
though, a couple of teachers 
that my wife teaches with also, 

1173
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,200
we realized we're kind of close 
by. 

1174
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,520
So we had probably about like 7 
to 10 people kind of hanging out

1175
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,680
around ours. 
It was fun. 

1176
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,160
We had can jam set up, had a 
couple friends walk by say hi 

1177
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,160
and the kids brought some chalk.
It was awesome. 

1178
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,680
My my son took a huge thing and 
just said IU tailgate, just come

1179
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,280
in and chill. 
So he's the he's writing letting

1180
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,440
people know where to come in. 
It was great. 

1181
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,440
We had we had a really good 
time. 

1182
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,360
I had some dogs and brats. 
I mean we are definitely doing 

1183
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,840
the small scale just, you know, 
bag chips, not generic. 

1184
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,520
We went with the some some 
really good BBQ. 

1185
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,840
Oh God, the place out of 
Pittsburgh wise wise chips 

1186
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,760
really good. 
I'm not. 

1187
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,560
Familiar with those? 
They're good, but not, not 

1188
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,200
generic. 
And then also the the hint of 

1189
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,680
lime Tostitos I'm a big fan of. 
So no, we had a really good 

1190
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:24,320
time. 
It was fun. 

1191
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,880
We had a, you know, the people 
are like we're going to come 

1192
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,320
back. 
And so I think, I think we we're

1193
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,040
starting to get our little 
tailgate crew together as well. 

1194
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,520
So we had a great time. 
That's great. 

1195
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Well, we're looking forward to 
more of course, coming up this 

1196
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,280
week, a Friday game for IU of a 
Friday evening kick, which I 

1197
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,480
know is a huge. 
I will say this, I'm curious 

1198
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,880
from your perspective, first of 
all, since you come from the 

1199
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,960
north side of Indianapolis, how 
was the transit yesterday like? 

1200
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,280
What was the process like? 
The the the opening of I-69 and 

1201
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,360
465 was awesome. 
Like it, it saved a ton of time.

1202
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,000
My my one thing to anybody with 
N dot who's listening, you have 

1203
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,920
a huge ceremony. 
It's been, I don't know, 50 plus

1204
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,480
years. 
I've been hearing about 69 

1205
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,920
connecting to Indy and you know,
three years of getting this last

1206
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,280
section figured out and they had
a huge ribbon cutting ceremony. 

1207
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,320
So I'm I'm excited. 
Like we turned the music down 

1208
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,520
like, all right, kids, like 
we're all I had not driven it 

1209
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,640
yet. 
Like super excited. 

1210
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,760
We get there. 
It's like 2 lane exit, but of 

1211
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,320
course one lane has cones on it.
It's already in one lane shut 

1212
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,160
down. 
It's like I've been waiting 

1213
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,800
three years from this. 
Like if you're going to open it,

1214
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,680
just open it like open the whole
thing. 

1215
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,800
If it's not ready to be open, 
then just don't open it yet. 

1216
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,000
Like why is one lane already 
closed on this exit? 

1217
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,880
So it was like jammed up and 
there was a little bit of a 

1218
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,400
backup getting off. 
But that said, it made, you 

1219
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,480
know, from my house up here in 
Westfield, once I got on 

1220
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,280
Meridian, there was not a 
stoplight or a stop until I got 

1221
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,240
to Bloomington, which was just 
awesome. 

1222
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,880
So it shaved, you know, from up 
here in Westfield, I plug it 

1223
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,640
into Waze, it's like an hour and
9 minutes to Memorial Stadium 

1224
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,160
from my house. 
So it, it shaved a good 3035 

1225
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,720
minutes off the route. 
Getting out wasn't bad. 

1226
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,080
We left with probably about like
4 minutes to go in the game. 

1227
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,880
So we miss in and I think the 
stadium was kind of clearing 

1228
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,200
organically as this as the game 
went along. 

1229
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,400
So there wasn't a big traffic. 
We'll see about how it is 

1230
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,680
getting out. 
But you know, getting out again,

1231
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,120
you just get on 69, you're good 
to go. 

1232
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,520
So no, the, the drive for 
anybody up here who's been 

1233
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,560
thrown off by the traffic or the
construction on I-69, it is done

1234
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,640
and you, you are, you're free to
go and you're doing 80 miles an 

1235
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,000
hour all the way down. 
And it is. 

1236
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,360
It's awesome. 
Yeah, it's I, I thought overall,

1237
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,400
I mean, I got there so early and
I, you know, we, we ended up 

1238
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,920
leaving with the with the kids 
got horrifically sunburned. 

1239
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,640
That was the one, the one 
downside to yesterday was I 

1240
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,800
didn't just didn't think about, 
hey, the clouds are out. 

1241
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Typical Indiana stuff, right? 
Like, I have no idea. 

1242
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,080
It's that very, very Indy 500 
kind of thing. 

1243
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,400
So we left a little bit early. 
But yeah, the the set up at 

1244
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,800
least in Bloomington was, was 
good. 

1245
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,880
But I was curious how your 
experience and those of the 

1246
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,000
experience of people leaving 
were like, because you're going 

1247
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,640
to deal with that on Friday, 
obviously coming down for the 

1248
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,840
game and then trying to get out.
So I'll be curious to see how it

1249
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,760
is there. 
But but good, good to see at 

1250
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,440
least most of an open in the 
Interstate between not here in 

1251
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,320
Indianapolis and long overdue 
after what, 5 decades of this or

1252
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:15,800
whatever. 
Yeah. 

1253
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,720
I. 
Mean it's been 10 years of 

1254
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,360
actual construction and then 
another 40 years of talking 

1255
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,880
about it. 
It's nice to finally have it 

1256
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,000
done and the the exit out is in.
I mean, they're they're going to

1257
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,040
take some time getting that that
work rate figure out, but it's 

1258
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:27,960
it's open. 
It's nice. 

1259
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,400
Anyway, we will have coming up 
later this week, we'll have some

1260
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,400
content related to IU taking on 
Western Illinois, a game that 

1261
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,160
will mean a lot for the season 
in terms of they win that game 

1262
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,000
and they will be 33% to bowl 
eligibility. 

1263
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,960
And I mean, no, it's true. 
It's true over numbers. 

1264
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,160
That's a real number. 
But also just a way for this 

1265
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:59,200
team to continue to improve 
itself and a way to get AI 

1266
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,360
think, a clearer handle on who 
we can count on in this season 

1267
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,080
and who's going to go out there 
and give effort regardless of 

1268
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,000
the level of the opponent like 
does Indiana. 

1269
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,400
Is this a team that ends up 
having a trouble with taking 

1270
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,120
their foot off the gas? 
There's a little bit of an 

1271
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,920
implication of that from Signeta
yesterday when it came to like 

1272
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,520
the way his team approached the 
end of the first half and then 

1273
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,680
most of the second-half and this
whole idea of you got to play 

1274
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,600
and learn how to play with the 
lead. 

1275
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,080
They're going to have the lead a
lot against Western Illinois. 

1276
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,640
We'll see what they do with it 
there. 

1277
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,000
We'll see how they're able to 
improve as, as we know, you only

1278
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,600
get one more week of this and 
then you're in conference play 

1279
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,120
and you're on the road. 
So a lot to learn in a short 

1280
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,000
period of time. 
On the road game, you and I are 

1281
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,680
both going to be there. 
Our schedule might get a little 

1282
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,960
bit jacked up that week because 
that is a, it's a, it's a long 

1283
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,640
trip. 
But I will also say talking to a

1284
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,280
lot of people before the game, 
couple during the game, you 

1285
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,040
know, there, there's excitement 
about that UCLA game and you 

1286
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,560
know, a couple people I know are
going a lot of people I talked 

1287
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,560
to that I told them I was going 
like, damn, I wish I could go. 

1288
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,400
Like I was really looking at it 
like I, I, I think the energy is

1289
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,400
real. 
And I continue to say I think 

1290
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,680
the turn out there is going to 
be is going to exceed 

1291
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,480
expectations as the Indiana 
crowd in in Pasadena. 

1292
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,320
But I just, it's, that'll be a 
really, really interesting first

1293
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Test. 
But the, the interest around 

1294
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,840
this, you know, two years ago, 
you, I don't think you got 

1295
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,080
anybody to fly to California to 
see IU football. 

1296
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,560
Now most people I talk to, 
they're either going or they're 

1297
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:26,120
really bummed they're not. 
Yeah, it's, it should be fun. 

1298
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,840
And I mean, I keep hearing 
there's going to be a ton of 

1299
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,440
people out there, but we've got 
we'll talk more about that the 

1300
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,920
following week. 
But it is not. 

1301
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,720
It is interesting to think about
how much is going to happen with

1302
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,840
IU football over the next 4 
weeks with with. 12 days. 

1303
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,600
Yeah, I know. 
So anyway, that'll wrap it up 

1304
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,960
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1305
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,800
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1306
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,360
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1307
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1308
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,640
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1309
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1310
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,880
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1311
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,600
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1312
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