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Once again, is this the 8th of September of 2022 and Indiana is
1 and 0 in football chance to go to and oh, pretty good chance to
go to know this week as they take on the Idaho Vandals.
Bowls. Of course.
Idaho not an FBS team. They're down in FCS territory
and really not a great football program in general.
Unfortunately, great great home stadium.
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up but Indiana, of course, probably had their best game of
the year last year against Idaho, beat them 56 to 14.
So we're going to talk a little bit about that game, very little
bit because there's it's more, it's mostly I use stuff, there's
not a lot to talk about with Idaho that I think is Irrelevant
but then we'll also talk tailgating.
I promise you folks, some tailgate talks we're going to do
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So I you, as we mentioned, taking on the Idaho vandals, and
I'm not trying to sleep on the vandals, because the Vandals,
play terribly last week, I have to say they took on the
Washington State Cougars and actually jumped out to a 10
nothing lead and at one point I think there was some real
consternation on the part of Washington state that, you know,
perhaps, they might struggle a little bit but it's it is also
one of those where frankly, Washington State, not a very
good team and Washington State, ultimately, while it didn't look
awesome, you know, from people on the Washington State
perspective, To the things they're looking at it and
they're saying, well, we could have played a lot better.
And Idaho, basically jumped on the team that wasn't quite
prepared Washington's. They ended up winning 24:17.
You look at the statistical performance of the Idaho players
Giovani McCoy. Pretty good day through the
air21 a 32. 212 yards and a touchdown did have two
interceptions, rushing wise, Anthony Woods nine carries for
50 yards. And, you know, it's, it's one of
those situations where you look at IU and the way that they
played against Illinois, who I think is a better opponent than
Washington State. And the fact that Idaho, you
know, when they travel to Washington State, they basically
just walk across the street because those two cities
Pullman. Not very far away from where
Idaho's located where, as I do as a get on a plane and fly all
the way out here. I think Indiana is going to be
fine. It may not be as much of a
rollover game as what we saw last year.
Washington state was able to put up a lot of yards on Idaho,
relatively speaking 358 overall, they really didn't struggle in a
lot of phases of the game. The only thing they really
struggled with was time of possession, but that was even
something that didn't matter too much.
Down the road of, you know, 200 plus yard passer for Washington,
State hundred yard rusher and Nakia Watson against Idaho.
So, you know, I look at this, I you game more as a way for I you
to try to fine tune some things and you know, it'd be nice to
see. I you get a big victory, get
more. Confidence as they head into
next week's game against Western Kentucky, which I do think is
going to be more of a problem than then maybe people are
anticipating but, you know, overall, if you look at IU, you
can say, I you probably didn't play close to their best in that
Illinois game and they still managed to come out with a
victory. So as much as Idaho might have
shown something, I think Indiana has shown a lot more, some
positives. As after ruminating, on last
week's game to think about congregate basil, lack It was
interesting going back and watching his performance again,
basil, act, I think had a lot of throws in the middle portion of
the game that were just not on Target, and I'm going to
attribute that at least, for the moment to still trying to get
timing down with his receivers. Plus the fact that Bay's like
didn't have a lot of time in the pocket to wait for players to
get to where they needed to get to not great.
In terms of completion percentage.
Last week for Basil Act only 53.8%, which is Really only a
tenth of a percentage Point, better than what Michael penix
is season completion. Percentage was last year, you
know, and actually that's about what penix through through
historical appendix was always in about the, at least the last
two years. Was always in that kind of 56,
57 percent range. He was a little bit better as a
sophomore. You know, obviously though, I
think basil acts going to have to get more accurate, you think,
back to Peyton, Ramsey and you'll want to Ramses main, you
know, Positive things about him as a quarterback was how
accurate he generally was 66 percent in 2018 68% in 2019.
Like he was he was really right on the mark for most of his
career and you know you go back to even someone like Nate said
Phil, who wasn't quite as accurate as Ramsey, he was still
passing right around 60 percent. And that's ultimately to me
about the minimum of what you want, basil lack to be throwing.
And again some of that's not his fault, some of that is going to
be a timing thing. A lot of it's going to be the
line and the lines, obviously in more trouble now because they've
lost Matthew Bedford for the year with an ACL tear.
That's a big loss for the IU, offensive line.
Now, it's hard to say how much of the lines problems.
Last week were due to losing Bedford relatively early in the
game and how much of it was just the line potentially not being
very good. That the line structure, the the
coaching the strategy being utilized It does not look like
it is anywhere close to where it needs to be and that's probably
the area I want to see the biggest Improvement this
upcoming week. You have to get better play out
of the offensive line especially against Idaho.
Idaho just really should not be able to penetrate and stop the
run game. This should be a game where if
this IU offensive line is going to be good.
They need to demonstrate it in this game.
They need to be dominant throughout and, and yes, it's
going to be difficult, replacing Bedford.
That was a guy that everybody. 22 coming into the season and
saying that guy's going to have to be a big difference maker.
He's gone now. And, and you know, the IU
offensive line just has to show up at this point.
They have to continue to step up and they have to play a lot
better than they did last week. Yes, Illinois is.
You know, they're, they're gonna, they're at that.
That's a that's a decent defensive line.
It's a defense decent front, seven for the Illini, but they
get significantly better through most of the Big Ten and that is
what concerns me. So keeping an eye on that if,
you know, and it's one of those Deals where it's hard to
evaluate the rest of the offense fairly without getting a larger
sample size of what the blocking is.
Because obviously, Sean, chivers did not have a great debut, 15
carries 28 yards and was, you know, I mean I you essentially
only if you take basil acts rush and then you take the sacks out,
I you ended up with like 46 rushing yards, you know, if you
do then the sax obviously kind of negatively contribute to that
the way that they do. College so that it's a little
hard to get a clear accurate representation of what all is
anticipated there. But I do think ultimately You
have to have a situation where you hand the ball off, whether
it's too shy, vers or whether that's to Josh Henderson and
that have some room to operate and you're not just not going to
be able to pass the bowl all the time with and, you know, and
obviously, the pass blocking wasn't the greatest either,
there was some her, he's in the pocket that needed to be
addressed receiving Corps wise. I like what we saw out of
Indiana in the game, cam camper looks like a big 10 wide
receiver. Certainly caught like 111
catches 14. It's / reserved for 14 yards per
catch and DJ Matthews. Look great as well, you know, so
good to see both of those to the amount of targets that those
two. Got on top of AJ, Barner really
gives you a sense of where Connor basil, Act is confident
and comfortable throwing the ball and that's a great way to
start. If you got three, good wide
receivers who are able to get open and catch the ball that
frankly is maybe two more than Indiana had most of Last season.
So that is a good positive progression.
As far as I'm concerned and we'll see, I mean, you know,
Devon, Swinton certainly was in the game.
You didn't do a whole lot in terms of yardage Emery.
Simmons had one big catch and then another smaller one.
That's, it's going to be interesting to watch that
receiving Corps continue to develop, whether we see some
Donovan McCulley on a more regular basis and whether he's
able to round into shape. Last thing I'll say defensively.
This is actually a game where I'd almost be willing to
sacrifice some yards and even some points to get some reps to
younger players, who need to get some game action.
You know, clearly the secondary is in really good form already
and I think that that's going to be something that will only get
stronger for this IU team as they continue through this first
part of the season but the especially the defensive line
and just the kind of the front five or six that I you likes to
put up there that you got to get some more guys in the mix.
You had a lot of defensive players, make tackles in this
game, I think what 25 players made at least one tackle, if you
throw special teams in and and of those 25 23 of them were
defensive players, I think Matthews and Barner both
registered tackles, although one of those, I think was on a
turnover that I you had committed but you know, Nick
James freshman defensive lineman, got two, tackles in the
game briah. Or AB Ryland linear who's a
defensive back. Had four tackles three of those
were so low. Which was good to see Des on
McCullough already contributing with six tackles, but I'd like
to see more of the sophomores and juniors kind of getting into
the mix of things just, you got to get some more reps because
you're, you know, that one of the big problems IU has
historically is they tend to suffer injuries that happened a
lot last year that release at the defense.
You've got to take these opportunities in these sorts of
games to get players up and running and figuring out what
they're doing on the field because they're probably gonna
have to play a decent amount. In the course of the season.
So anyway, that's kind of the overview of things.
I'm sure we'll have more to talk about specifically afterwards
and then we will absolutely have some things to talk about as we
get ready for that Western Kentucky game.
But as of now, you would expect this Indiana team facing an FCS
opponent that they blew out handily last year at basically
the same point in the season, to be able to come in and handle
things. This is more about a fine-tuning
week and figuring out what didn't work and how to fix it
from week one. Anyway, you all had some other
questions that we wanted to tackle.
And by the way, I know that the basketball schedule just came
out. We're going to tape a separate
podcast on that. That'll come out probably over
the weekend as we break down Indiana's full schedule, which
is now available overall and some interesting stuff there,
but we're not going to talk about that in this podcast.
So let's see, we had a first question.
This was actually not a tailgate question, but from Ross Baker,
can we send Kirk Ferentz to Canada?
Imagine Artist might paint with the rouget de to his palate.
You always do Wonder like Kirk Ferentz.
He's been coaching his whole life with four downs and yet,
this is a guy who if there was a person in coaching tailor-made
to only have three Downs to work with.
It feels like Kirk Ferentz, is the guy.
Imagine the number of punts that he could generate during that
both for him. And for the opposition, the
number of times you could pin an opponent inside the five, I
really like I feel like we've missed an opportunity here and
it's Maybe. I mean if you're Saskatchewan,
if you're, you know, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, if you're
the Montreal Alouettes, I think you got to give this a look.
I would I would pay over market value to get Kirk Ferentz up
into the CFL and see what he could do.
Let's see. Some other questions here.
So assembly call Jared asks if you had a thousand dollars that
you had to distribute to IU athletes and some kind of Ni L
deal related to your tailgate, how would you allocate the money
and what would you have the chosen athletes do that's a
that's a tough question I so it feels like the easy answer here
is OU you have like celebrity chefs come in but I don't think
that's fair to either the athletes many of Are not not
chefs, they're not, they don't maybe cook for themselves very
often or if they do, it's very basic and that's not a
reflection on athletes. That's college students in
general, I was the Oddball who would make like lasagna for the
four or five apartments around us when we lived in North Lane
condos in 1999 2000. So you know, I think I wouldn't
want to pay unless there was somebody that was like a
knock-down drag-out, awesome cook.
If they wanted to come in and just man The Griddle for a
couple hours, I would just drop a thousand dollars on that
person right then and there that would be money.
Well spent and I we would, we would certainly have them, you
know, sign a waiver. So that you know, if they didn't
cook the food properly, there weren't any any problems as a
result of that. But I actually, I would love to
have athletes come in and maybe either be food testers because
one of the things I'll say, Is people are very gracious when
they come to the tailgate and I often worry, I don't get
completely accurate feedback on the food and I want accurate
feedback. Like I'm I'm not interested in.
Oh, thank you so much. This was so generous, I bet I
certainly appreciate that, but I love honesty.
It's like, wow, that, that really was over seasoned or, you
know, that was missing a flavor that it needed or something like
that. And, you know, I found most
athletes to be polite but also very Direct and I've always
respected that about the athletes that I've worked with
over the years. And so I would probably, I would
like three athletes and I could give them 333 dollars a piece.
I'll pocket the extra dollar for my trouble, I guess.
And and I have them actually officially taste test, what's
coming off the grill or The Griddle and, you know, maybe
give a five minute review of what they're tasting.
We we've done that before. Actually, John, Bannock, Who was
a former soccer player Bloomington native was kind of
co-hosting a show with one of our former Sports media,
students, Julia, gay, and where they would go around town and
they would go to like the crepe place that used to be open on
Indiana Avenue or they go to the bubble tea place or they would
taste test food and talk about it.
And I really enjoyed that show. So I think I'd like to bring
athletes in to do that or to play cornhole with the people at
the tailgate because I sometimes feel bad, I'm always at the
grill. I can't go over and interact
with people, you know, we got and when I'm interacting, I'm
like, I want to talk with you and I'm enjoying, I'm happy
you're here, I enjoy seeing you, but I also kept to make sure
that the hamburgers don't burn or something like that.
So, it would be nice to just have people come and act as
social ambassador's, I guess at the tailgate.
I think that would be a good that would be money.
Well, spent that I would feel good about and that I think fits
right into the spirit of n IL. And actually, it's funny because
I'm reading these in order, but I hadn't read them at a time.
But from a borrow starkly, give it to Tamar Bates and haven't
played cornhole against fans, and then dusted to appear at
Gannon, but he has to play while holding his baby girl in one arm
because that's apparently a skill.
All dads have to master, I can confirm that Dustin being a dad.
And and also having had done that on a number of occasions.
So that would fit right in with what we're talking about here.
I think social interaction in a controlled environment.
Which I think is important for athletes because people, you
know, people can sometimes not know how to act when they're
around athletes, not all the time, but sometimes that would
probably be my favorite thing to do in that circumstance.
So that's the answer for you. We had some general questions
about tailgating last week that we didn't get to an arrest
Bennett. It asked a question about what
was new on the grill this year and, you know, it's interesting.
So we got the black On griddle, a couple of years ago and the
great. Great addition, my thanks to my
mother-in-law. That was a, it was a Christmas
gift and it it's been a great companion piece, and it's
actually kind of taken over as the primary thing at the
tailgate. So this last week we did some
new stuff that I hadn't done before.
Well, one thing we had done before which was our the, the
shrimp, and bacon and jalapeno poppers which I do two different
versions of those. One with jalapeno and the other
with red bell pepper. And the reason for that is the
flavors are always good. Some people like the heat, some
people don't. So I really tried to focus on
adapting recipes when it's not going to like fundamentally
alter things. And actually my wife much
prefers the bell pepper to the jalapeno.
Not that she doesn't like spicy food but there's something about
the sweetness of the bell pepper.
That goes really well with the Savory nature of the bacon and
the big change I make with those Is I do not put cream cheese in
mind. I know a lot of people, they
think cream cheese has to go with poppers, but to me, the
cream cheese. Cream, cheese is such a, it's a
blunt force, object of a flavor. It really takes over almost
everything you put with, its kind of guacamole in a way like
guacamole, just overwhelms, whatever you pair it with.
And what I've found is that taking the cream cheese out of
the poppers and just making them essentially keto style.
So it's just like a pepper about a third of a slice of bacon, a
piece of shrimp and a toothpick that cooks up, really, really
nicely. And I think ultimately what
we're looking at in, you know, moving towards that.
Sort of thing is a, it's a more Savory thing to eat.
But it's also a situation where you can eat more of them and the
flavors stick with you a lot longer and you get the right
types of flavors. So we had that last week we'll
probably Again, a little bit later on in the season, the new
thing that we did with the tailgate was shrimp Po-Boys
which was a kind of an idea out of the blue.
But I was like, I bought a bunch of shrimp to make poppers and
then I ran out of bacon. I ran out of peppers but I had
about two pounds of shrimp. Left was like, what am I gonna
do with these? And so I was like, well Po-Boys
make a lot of sense because if you get the right type of bread
and you toast it on the griddle which is one of the great
features of the Blackstone is that you can you can toast
really easily on there without burning.
And then essentially, you have to get the right marinade, which
my wife makes and she what she essentially makes is this combo
marinade of milk and cornstarch and some spices.
You let that sit overnight and then when you put it on the
griddle, you get a little bit of a crust that forms around the
shrimp, which is an important part because you get both flavor
and texture out of that. You cook the shrimp, they don't
take too terribly long and then you get like a rebel Aid and a
You get some sliced tomatoes, maybe get some onions.
You know, you put all that together and boom.
You're good to go. It's a very straightforward
dish, you know, you get about six or seven, shrimp / po boy.
So they're kind of miniature. They're not like the big ones
that you get in Mississippi or Louisiana but they work really
well in that environment. And that was a big hit.
Those went really quickly. I was actually surprised at how
many people really dug those. We didn't even have a great
rental laid because it was hot last week and I was worried
about mayonnaise and other things.
Sitting out. So we ended up going with either
a kind of a sweet barbecue sauce and some cases or a medium
Peri-Peri sauce which is not something that people normally
think about when it comes to either Po-Boys or tailgating.
But it worked really well, gave a bit of a kick and was I think
a good addition overall. So those are the big new things
last week and, you know, this week still kind of figuring out
the final aspects of the menu. But I know later on during this
Season. The plan is there's going to be
some cheesesteaks, both the beef variety and then also chicken
that's a that's a classic griddle.
Tailgate item and I think works really well.
You will probably do some kind of a taco bar which again is one
of those things you don't think about is being a good idea on
you know, a tailgate setup but the you know essentially you've
got the perfect station to heat tortillas you get the perfect
Station to Vegetables, you've got the perfect station to cook,
taco meat, and get everything up and running, and then you can
just kind of bring everything together and distribute that
out. So that's certainly something
that's coming up over the course of the next couple of months as
we go into the season plus of course breakfast.
Tailgates coming up later again I defer to my wife on a lot of
the breakfast stuff in terms of the specialty items and I know
that we're doing, I think chicken biscuits with a marinade
that is very similar to the marinade.
You get you, when you eat it, like Chick-fil-A the, the stuff
that they put their Chicken in, we've got a similar kind of
marinate that we've been able to develop over the years.
That's always a welcome addition to the breakfast tailgate, it
always goes nicely alongside like sausage biscuits and things
like that. And we've been doing those of
who you have stopped by the tailgate over the years.
We've done this gets for a debt. What 12 years now?
However long we've been out doing tailgate 12 or 13 years so
we keep trying to add new twists.
To all of that to see how it all equates.
And, you know, we've had some successes, I think more
successes than failures and chicken, sometimes I think it's
overdone in the, the world, but especially and I will say this,
with, with the griddle chicken thigh meat is slept on a lot.
I think chicken thigh meat in general, I one time I did a
ranking on Twitter, like the most overrated, an underrated
cuts of meat across all of the different types of meat that
there are And chicken thigh to me.
Like, if you go to Chipotle and you get chicken, you're getting
chicken thigh generally. Speaking your, you're able to do
so much more with chicken thigh. It's got a much more, robust
flavor it handles heat a lot better.
It's got a higher fat content than chicken breast or chicken
tenders or things like that, but it's got I think a much better
versatility, especially when you're cooking outside and it
works for breakfast. Just as much as it works for
lunch and dinner. So those are some things to keep
in mind on that front. The other thing I'll say is from
the standpoint of when you're setting up your tailgate menu,
one deal that I'm always really interested in conveying to
people is you want to make sure if you're cooking on site and
I've talked about this on the podcast before you want to make
sure that you're not giving people something that's going to
require a whole lot of Sure is to eat effectively so I try to
avoid anything that would require a knife or a fork or a
spoon now. Something like tacos it's kind
of a borderline thing but you you know if you don't overload
the tortilla shell and you've got like bowls paper bowls that
you can help to put the the tacos in.
That's normally fine. It's where you get into trouble
is where you try to do something more ornate and I just don't
think it works. You know, the whole idea behind
tailgate food is that it shouldn't Doesn't have to be
overly fancy. You know you can get kind of
fancy at times but if you're going to do something that is
fancy, you better make sure that the delivery system into
people's mouths is not something that causes them a whole lot of
consternation. So just something to keep in
mind as you move forward. If you're just getting started
with tailgating, it's one of the big mistakes people make is they
get a little ambitious and they don't take into account that.
Most people are kind of eating and running or they're eating
and talking with people. And so you want to make sure
that you're not only thinking about the meal, but thinking
about how they're going to eat the meal and what the
environment is that they're going to eat in.
So just keep that in mind and I think you'll be okay across the
board on things. Right.
Another question that people came in with that, a couple of
people asking me, you know, I'm doing my first ever tailgate
this year. What should I use?
And some people are like, should I get a griddle and the griddles
are good choices? You know, the and you don't
maybe don't need to get the big 36-inch 4-burner griddles but
there's there's three burner griddles and to burn or griddles
that work just as well. It's a smaller, quantity of food
but you if you're just starting you probably have a smaller
quantity of people who are going to be eating the food with you.
So that's perfectly fine. You know what, I always remind
people is I didn't get the griddle, two years ago, I did 10
years of tailgating where my only cooking vessel was a Weber
portable propane grill. You know, so I generally and I
they don't actually make the particular model that I bought
10 or 12 years ago but I really like the Weber Q 1000 or the
Weber Q 1200 especially if you can get a stand for it so that
it's elevated off the ground. But I found that both of those
have generally ample cooking room, they cook really evenly.
They're pretty easy to clean all things considered and they are
Are very versatile in terms of not just what you can cook but
how easily you can transport them in the type of fuel that
you using the Q, both of those, the 10:00 and the 1200 utilize
those green Coleman, portable propane, gas canisters, which
you've probably seen. If you'd walk through like dicks
or Cabela's or something like that.
I think they've actually they used to sell them at Kroger's
down here and I guess it's just Kroger, isn't it?
Sorry. But they're, you know, those
canisters. Actually, you can get in some
cases to full tailgates out of the canister, if you're
judicious in, how you utilize them, and I've found again,
like, almost everything that I would want to cook.
That didn't require a flat surface was was great on the
Weber Q, 1000 or 1200. Give the, you know, I mean,
hamburgers actually still prefer when I'm doing sausages or
hotdogs, I'll bring the cue 1000 that I've got to cook next to
the griddle because I'm just not a huge fan of how the griddle
handles tubed meat. I just don't think it Cooks
quite as well. I think you need more of an open
flame for that sort of thing. Now, certainly I think
hamburgers are better on The Griddle and there's a lot of
things like the shrimp that don't work nearly as well on the
Weber as they do on The Griddle but you can get by doing a lot
of good tailgate stuff. Using one of those portable
propane grills from Weber versus what you might be.
You trying to do with something else.
One thing I will say is unless you are experienced and or
planning on sticking around for a while, I would avoid using
charcoal for two primary reasons, one and look, I'm a big
charcoal at home guy. I don't have a gas grill at all
here that I use at my house but I do use gas when I'm traveling
to cook, because propane grills cool down a lot faster.
You don't have this messy. That's too hot to put in the
trash bag and you know, you're like, where are you going to put
this? You know, you're either going to
dump it illegally and litter or you're going to risk, keeping it
in the grill and not have it be completely cool when you put it
back in your truck or car. So you know what I've generally
found is I get done tailgating, I turn off the grill and it's
cool enough to put back in the truck with in like 25 or 30
minutes and that is not always the case with the charcoal.
So if you're getting started or if you're looking for an upgrade
from whatever you're currently using, I'd rather Command a
portable propane grill, and you. Fortunately got a lot of good
options. Coleman's, got some decent
options as well. I just happen to like the Weber
stuff a bit better. So anyway, I think that's going
to wrap it up for this show about 30 minutes long and we
look forward to talking with you again in coming weeks.
We'll be back with our regular post game review podcast, Scott.
And I will be coming to you on Sunday morning sometime, so be
sure to keep an eye out for that and let us So if you have
questions, you can hit us up on Twitter.
At Crimson cast is probably the best way to do.
So you can hit me up to dr. G.
C, on Twitter, always happy to hear from you folks.
Thanks to home-field apparel for their continued sponsorship and
they're just overall good natured - of being the good
brand and thanks to all the folks at the back home network
and we will catch you folks on the flip side, bring back the
Bison. So long everybody.