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Welcome back to Crimson Cask ale
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Joining me once again here on 
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Nice to have you folks joining 
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Once again, is this the 8th of 
September of 2022 and Indiana is

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1 and 0 in football chance to go
to and oh, pretty good chance to

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go to know this week as they 
take on the Idaho Vandals. 

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Bowls. 
Of course. 

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Idaho not an FBS team. 
They're down in FCS territory 

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and really not a great football 
program in general. 

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Unfortunately, great great home 
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They play in the kibbeh dome 
which I highly recommend looking

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up but Indiana, of course, 
probably had their best game of 

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the year last year against 
Idaho, beat them 56 to 14. 

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So we're going to talk a little 
bit about that game, very little

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bit because there's it's more, 
it's mostly I use stuff, there's

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not a lot to talk about with 
Idaho that I think is Irrelevant

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but then we'll also talk 
tailgating. 

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I promise you folks, some 
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which I know is not college but 
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For the canes, I taught at Miami
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shirt commemorating that 2001 
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glorious split that National 
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is the one piece of Glory 
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Got to hang onto right now for 
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Oh, but six decades, but look, 
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I promise, let's get to the 
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So I you, as we mentioned, 
taking on the Idaho vandals, and

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I'm not trying to sleep on the 
vandals, because the Vandals, 

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play terribly last week, I have 
to say they took on the 

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Washington State Cougars and 
actually jumped out to a 10 

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nothing lead and at one point I 
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consternation on the part of 
Washington state that, you know,

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perhaps, they might struggle a 
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one of those where frankly, 
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good team and Washington State, 
ultimately, while it didn't look

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awesome, you know, from people 
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perspective, To the things 
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they're saying, well, we could 
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And Idaho, basically jumped on 
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prepared Washington's. 
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You look at the statistical 
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Giovani McCoy. 
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air21 a 32. 212 yards and a 
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interceptions, rushing wise, 
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50 yards. 
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those situations where you look 
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played against Illinois, who I 
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Washington State. 
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know, when they travel to 
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just walk across the street 
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Pullman. 
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Idaho's located where, as I do 
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the way out here. 
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fine. 
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rollover game as what we saw 
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Washington state was able to put
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relatively speaking 358 overall,
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lot of phases of the game. 
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struggled with was time of 
possession, but that was even 

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something that didn't matter too
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Down the road of, you know, 200 
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State hundred yard rusher and 
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So, you know, I look at this, I 
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to try to fine tune some things 
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see. 
I you get a big victory, get 

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more. 
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next week's game against Western
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going to be more of a problem 
than then maybe people are 

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anticipating but, you know, 
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can say, I you probably didn't 
play close to their best in that

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Illinois game and they still 
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victory. 
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shown something, I think Indiana
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positives. 
As after ruminating, on last 

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week's game to think about 
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interesting going back and 
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basil, act, I think had a lot of
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the game that were just not on 
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attribute that at least, for the
moment to still trying to get 

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timing down with his receivers. 
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didn't have a lot of time in the
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get to where they needed to get 
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Last week for Basil Act only 
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tenth of a percentage Point, 
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is season completion. 
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know, and actually that's about 
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historical appendix was always 
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two years. 
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57 percent range. 
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sophomore. 
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think basil acts going to have 
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back to Peyton, Ramsey and 
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know, Positive things about him 
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accurate he generally was 66 
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Like he was he was really right 
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career and you know you go back 
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Phil, who wasn't quite as 
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passing right around 60 percent.
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about the minimum of what you 
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And again some of that's not his
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be a timing thing. 
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line and the lines, obviously in
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That's a big loss for the IU, 
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Last week were due to losing 
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game and how much of it was just
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very good. 
That the line structure, the the

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coaching the strategy being 
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it is anywhere close to where it
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the area I want to see the 
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upcoming week. 
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of the offensive line especially
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Idaho just really should not be 
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run game. 
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this IU offensive line is going 
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They need to demonstrate it in 
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They need to be dominant 
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going to be difficult, replacing
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That was a guy that everybody. 
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saying that guy's going to have 
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He's gone now. 
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offensive line just has to show 
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They have to continue to step up
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better than they did last week. 
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You know, they're, they're 
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That's a that's a decent 
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It's a defense decent front, 
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get significantly better through
most of the Big Ten and that is 

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what concerns me. 
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you know, and it's one of those 
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evaluate the rest of the offense
fairly without getting a larger 

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sample size of what the blocking
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Because obviously, Sean, chivers
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carries 28 yards and was, you 
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only if you take basil acts rush
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I you ended up with like 46 
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do then the sax obviously kind 
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the way that they do. 
College so that it's a little 

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hard to get a clear accurate 
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anticipated there. 
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have to have a situation where 
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it's too shy, vers or whether 
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that have some room to operate 
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be able to pass the bowl all the
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obviously, the pass blocking 
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there was some her, he's in the 
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addressed receiving Corps wise. 
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Indiana in the game, cam camper 
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receiver. 
Certainly caught like 111 

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catches 14. 
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catch and DJ Matthews. 
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good to see both of those to the
amount of targets that those 

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two. 
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gives you a sense of where 
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and comfortable throwing the 
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start. 
If you got three, good wide 

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receivers who are able to get 
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frankly is maybe two more than 
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So that is a good positive 
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As far as I'm concerned and 
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Devon, Swinton certainly was in 
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You didn't do a whole lot in 
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Simmons had one big catch and 
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That's, it's going to be 
interesting to watch that 

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receiving Corps continue to 
develop, whether we see some 

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Donovan McCulley on a more 
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able to round into shape. 
Last thing I'll say defensively.

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This is actually a game where 
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sacrifice some yards and even 
some points to get some reps to 

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younger players, who need to get
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You know, clearly the secondary 
is in really good form already 

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and I think that that's going to
be something that will only get 

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stronger for this IU team as 
they continue through this first

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part of the season but the 
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and just the kind of the front 
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put up there that you got to get
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You had a lot of defensive 
players, make tackles in this 

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game, I think what 25 players 
made at least one tackle, if you

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throw special teams in and and 
of those 25 23 of them were 

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defensive players, I think 
Matthews and Barner both 

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registered tackles, although one
of those, I think was on a 

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turnover that I you had 
committed but you know, Nick 

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James freshman defensive 
lineman, got two, tackles in the

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game briah. 
Or AB Ryland linear who's a 

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defensive back. 
Had four tackles three of those 

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were so low. 
Which was good to see Des on 

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McCullough already contributing 
with six tackles, but I'd like 

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to see more of the sophomores 
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the mix of things just, you got 
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you're, you know, that one of 
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historically is they tend to 
suffer injuries that happened a 

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lot last year that release at 
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You've got to take these 
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and then we will absolutely have
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opponent that they blew out 
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the same point in the season, to
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things. 
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week and figuring out what 
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from week one. 
Anyway, you all had some other 

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questions that we wanted to 
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the weekend as we break down 
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is now available overall and 
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but we're not going to talk 
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So let's see, we had a first 
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This was actually not a tailgate
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can we send Kirk Ferentz to 
Canada? 

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Imagine Artist might paint with 
the rouget de to his palate. 

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You always do Wonder like Kirk 
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He's been coaching his whole 
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this is a guy who if there was a
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to only have three Downs to work
with. 

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It feels like Kirk Ferentz, is 
the guy. 

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both for him. 
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number of times you could pin an
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really like I feel like we've 
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it's Maybe. 
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if you're, you know, the 
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the Montreal Alouettes, I think 
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I would I would pay over market 
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into the CFL and see what he 
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Let's see. 
Some other questions here. 

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you had to distribute to IU 
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deal related to your tailgate, 
how would you allocate the money

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that's a tough question I so it 
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is OU you have like celebrity 
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that's fair to either the 
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chefs, they're not, they don't 
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often or if they do, it's very 
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reflection on athletes. 
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general, I was the Oddball who 
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four or five apartments around 
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condos in 1999 2000. 
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want to pay unless there was 
somebody that was like a 

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knock-down drag-out, awesome 
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If they wanted to come in and 
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couple hours, I would just drop 
a thousand dollars on that 

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person right then and there that
would be money. 

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Well spent and I we would, we 
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know, sign a waiver. 
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cook the food properly, there 
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result of that. 
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have athletes come in and maybe 
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one of the things I'll say, Is 
people are very gracious when 

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they come to the tailgate and I 
often worry, I don't get 

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completely accurate feedback on 
the food and I want accurate 

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feedback. 
Like I'm I'm not interested in. 

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Oh, thank you so much. 
This was so generous, I bet I 

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certainly appreciate that, but I
love honesty. 

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It's like, wow, that, that 
really was over seasoned or, you

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know, that was missing a flavor 
that it needed or something like

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that. 
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athletes to be polite but also 
very Direct and I've always 

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respected that about the 
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over the years. 
And so I would probably, I would

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like three athletes and I could 
give them 333 dollars a piece. 

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I'll pocket the extra dollar for
my trouble, I guess. 

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And and I have them actually 
officially taste test, what's 

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coming off the grill or The 
Griddle and, you know, maybe 

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give a five minute review of 
what they're tasting. 

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We we've done that before. 
Actually, John, Bannock, Who was

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a former soccer player 
Bloomington native was kind of 

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co-hosting a show with one of 
our former Sports media, 

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students, Julia, gay, and where 
they would go around town and 

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they would go to like the crepe 
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Indiana Avenue or they go to the
bubble tea place or they would 

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taste test food and talk about 
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And I really enjoyed that show. 
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athletes in to do that or to 
play cornhole with the people at

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the tailgate because I sometimes
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grill. 
I can't go over and interact 

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with people, you know, we got 
and when I'm interacting, I'm 

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like, I want to talk with you 
and I'm enjoying, I'm happy 

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you're here, I enjoy seeing you,
but I also kept to make sure 

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that the hamburgers don't burn 
or something like that. 

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So, it would be nice to just 
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social ambassador's, I guess at 
the tailgate. 

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I think that would be a good 
that would be money. 

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Well, spent that I would feel 
good about and that I think fits

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right into the spirit of n IL. 
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I'm reading these in order, but 
I hadn't read them at a time. 

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But from a borrow starkly, give 
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played cornhole against fans, 
and then dusted to appear at 

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Gannon, but he has to play while
holding his baby girl in one arm

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because that's apparently a 
skill. 

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All dads have to master, I can 
confirm that Dustin being a dad.

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And and also having had done 
that on a number of occasions. 

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So that would fit right in with 
what we're talking about here. 

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I think social interaction in a 
controlled environment. 

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Which I think is important for 
athletes because people, you 

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know, people can sometimes not 
know how to act when they're 

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around athletes, not all the 
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probably be my favorite thing to
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So that's the answer for you. 
We had some general questions 

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about tailgating last week that 
we didn't get to an arrest 

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Bennett. 
It asked a question about what 

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was new on the grill this year 
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a couple of years ago and the 

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great. 
Great addition, my thanks to my 

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mother-in-law. 
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gift and it it's been a great 
companion piece, and it's 

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actually kind of taken over as 
the primary thing at the 

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tailgate. 
So this last week we did some 

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new stuff that I hadn't done 
before. 

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Well, one thing we had done 
before which was our the, the 

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shrimp, and bacon and jalapeno 
poppers which I do two different

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versions of those. 
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with red bell pepper. 
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flavors are always good. 
Some people like the heat, some 

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people don't. 
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adapting recipes when it's not 
going to like fundamentally 

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alter things. 
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prefers the bell pepper to the 
jalapeno. 

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Not that she doesn't like spicy 
food but there's something about

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the sweetness of the bell 
pepper. 

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That goes really well with the 
Savory nature of the bacon and 

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the big change I make with those
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mind. 
I know a lot of people, they 

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think cream cheese has to go 
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cream cheese. 
Cream, cheese is such a, it's a 

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blunt force, object of a flavor.
It really takes over almost 

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everything you put with, its 
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guacamole, just overwhelms, 
whatever you pair it with. 

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And what I've found is that 
taking the cream cheese out of 

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the poppers and just making them
essentially keto style. 

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So it's just like a pepper about
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piece of shrimp and a toothpick 
that cooks up, really, really 

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nicely. 
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we're looking at in, you know, 
moving towards that. 

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Sort of thing is a, it's a more 
Savory thing to eat. 

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But it's also a situation where 
you can eat more of them and the

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flavors stick with you a lot 
longer and you get the right 

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types of flavors. 
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probably Again, a little bit 
later on in the season, the new 

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thing that we did with the 
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which was a kind of an idea out 
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But I was like, I bought a bunch
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then I ran out of bacon. 
I ran out of peppers but I had 

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about two pounds of shrimp. 
Left was like, what am I gonna 

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do with these? 
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make a lot of sense because if 
you get the right type of bread 

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and you toast it on the griddle 
which is one of the great 

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features of the Blackstone is 
that you can you can toast 

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really easily on there without 
burning. 

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And then essentially, you have 
to get the right marinade, which

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my wife makes and she what she 
essentially makes is this combo 

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marinade of milk and cornstarch 
and some spices. 

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You let that sit overnight and 
then when you put it on the 

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griddle, you get a little bit of
a crust that forms around the 

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shrimp, which is an important 
part because you get both flavor

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and texture out of that. 
You cook the shrimp, they don't 

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take too terribly long and then 
you get like a rebel Aid and a 

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You get some sliced tomatoes, 
maybe get some onions. 

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You know, you put all that 
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You're good to go. 
It's a very straightforward 

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dish, you know, you get about 
six or seven, shrimp / po boy. 

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So they're kind of miniature. 
They're not like the big ones 

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that you get in Mississippi or 
Louisiana but they work really 

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well in that environment. 
And that was a big hit. 

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Those went really quickly. 
I was actually surprised at how 

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many people really dug those. 
We didn't even have a great 

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rental laid because it was hot 
last week and I was worried 

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about mayonnaise and other 
things. 

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Sitting out. 
So we ended up going with either

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a kind of a sweet barbecue sauce
and some cases or a medium 

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Peri-Peri sauce which is not 
something that people normally 

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think about when it comes to 
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But it worked really well, gave 
a bit of a kick and was I think 

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a good addition overall. 
So those are the big new things 

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last week and, you know, this 
week still kind of figuring out 

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the final aspects of the menu. 
But I know later on during this 

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Season. 
The plan is there's going to be 

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some cheesesteaks, both the beef
variety and then also chicken 

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that's a that's a classic 
griddle. 

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Tailgate item and I think works 
really well. 

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You will probably do some kind 
of a taco bar which again is one

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of those things you don't think 
about is being a good idea on 

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you know, a tailgate setup but 
the you know essentially you've 

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got the perfect station to heat 
tortillas you get the perfect 

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Station to Vegetables, you've 
got the perfect station to cook,

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taco meat, and get everything up
and running, and then you can 

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just kind of bring everything 
together and distribute that 

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out. 
So that's certainly something 

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that's coming up over the course
of the next couple of months as 

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we go into the season plus of 
course breakfast. 

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Tailgates coming up later again 
I defer to my wife on a lot of 

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the breakfast stuff in terms of 
the specialty items and I know 

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that we're doing, I think 
chicken biscuits with a marinade

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that is very similar to the 
marinade. 

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You get you, when you eat it, 
like Chick-fil-A the, the stuff 

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that they put their Chicken in, 
we've got a similar kind of 

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marinate that we've been able to
develop over the years. 

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That's always a welcome addition
to the breakfast tailgate, it 

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always goes nicely alongside 
like sausage biscuits and things

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like that. 
And we've been doing those of 

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who you have stopped by the 
tailgate over the years. 

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We've done this gets for a debt.
What 12 years now? 

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However long we've been out 
doing tailgate 12 or 13 years so

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we keep trying to add new 
twists. 

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To all of that to see how it all
equates. 

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And, you know, we've had some 
successes, I think more 

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successes than failures and 
chicken, sometimes I think it's 

446
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overdone in the, the world, but 
especially and I will say this, 

447
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with, with the griddle chicken 
thigh meat is slept on a lot. 

448
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I think chicken thigh meat in 
general, I one time I did a 

449
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:21,300
ranking on Twitter, like the 
most overrated, an underrated 

450
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cuts of meat across all of the 
different types of meat that 

451
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there are And chicken thigh to 
me. 

452
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Like, if you go to Chipotle and 
you get chicken, you're getting 

453
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chicken thigh generally. 
Speaking your, you're able to do

454
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so much more with chicken thigh.
It's got a much more, robust 

455
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flavor it handles heat a lot 
better. 

456
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It's got a higher fat content 
than chicken breast or chicken 

457
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tenders or things like that, but
it's got I think a much better 

458
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versatility, especially when 
you're cooking outside and it 

459
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works for breakfast. 
Just as much as it works for 

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lunch and dinner. 
So those are some things to keep

461
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in mind on that front. 
The other thing I'll say is from

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the standpoint of when you're 
setting up your tailgate menu, 

463
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one deal that I'm always really 
interested in conveying to 

464
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people is you want to make sure 
if you're cooking on site and 

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I've talked about this on the 
podcast before you want to make 

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sure that you're not giving 
people something that's going to

467
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:29,100
require a whole lot of Sure is 
to eat effectively so I try to 

468
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avoid anything that would 
require a knife or a fork or a 

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00:25:32,308 --> 00:25:35,200
spoon now. 
Something like tacos it's kind 

470
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,000
of a borderline thing but you 
you know if you don't overload 

471
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,500
the tortilla shell and you've 
got like bowls paper bowls that 

472
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:45,000
you can help to put the the 
tacos in. 

473
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That's normally fine. 
It's where you get into trouble 

474
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is where you try to do something
more ornate and I just don't 

475
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think it works. 
You know, the whole idea behind 

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tailgate food is that it 
shouldn't Doesn't have to be 

477
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overly fancy. 
You know you can get kind of 

478
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fancy at times but if you're 
going to do something that is 

479
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fancy, you better make sure that
the delivery system into 

480
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:10,600
people's mouths is not something
that causes them a whole lot of 

481
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consternation. 
So just something to keep in 

482
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mind as you move forward. 
If you're just getting started 

483
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with tailgating, it's one of the
big mistakes people make is they

484
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get a little ambitious and they 
don't take into account that. 

485
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Most people are kind of eating 
and running or they're eating 

486
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:28,900
and talking with people. 
And so you want to make sure 

487
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that you're not only thinking 
about the meal, but thinking 

488
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,100
about how they're going to eat 
the meal and what the 

489
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environment is that they're 
going to eat in. 

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So just keep that in mind and I 
think you'll be okay across the 

491
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board on things. 
Right. 

492
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Another question that people 
came in with that, a couple of 

493
00:26:43,608 --> 00:26:46,700
people asking me, you know, I'm 
doing my first ever tailgate 

494
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this year. 
What should I use? 

495
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,900
And some people are like, should
I get a griddle and the griddles

496
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,100
are good choices? 
You know, the and you don't 

497
00:26:56,100 --> 00:27:00,800
maybe don't need to get the big 
36-inch 4-burner griddles but 

498
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,300
there's there's three burner 
griddles and to burn or griddles

499
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,600
that work just as well. 
It's a smaller, quantity of food

500
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,600
but you if you're just starting 
you probably have a smaller 

501
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000
quantity of people who are going
to be eating the food with you. 

502
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,100
So that's perfectly fine. 
You know what, I always remind 

503
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:18,100
people is I didn't get the 
griddle, two years ago, I did 10

504
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:23,700
years of tailgating where my 
only cooking vessel was a Weber 

505
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:28,900
portable propane grill. 
You know, so I generally and I 

506
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,500
they don't actually make the 
particular model that I bought 

507
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:37,300
10 or 12 years ago but I really 
like the Weber Q 1000 or the 

508
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:41,900
Weber Q 1200 especially if you 
can get a stand for it so that 

509
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:45,900
it's elevated off the ground. 
But I found that both of those 

510
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,700
have generally ample cooking 
room, they cook really evenly. 

511
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:55,900
They're pretty easy to clean all
things considered and they are 

512
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,100
Are very versatile in terms of 
not just what you can cook but 

513
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,900
how easily you can transport 
them in the type of fuel that 

514
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:08,200
you using the Q, both of those, 
the 10:00 and the 1200 utilize 

515
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:14,200
those green Coleman, portable 
propane, gas canisters, which 

516
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,700
you've probably seen. 
If you'd walk through like dicks

517
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,600
or Cabela's or something like 
that. 

518
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,600
I think they've actually they 
used to sell them at Kroger's 

519
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,100
down here and I guess it's just 
Kroger, isn't it? 

520
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:29,400
Sorry. 
But they're, you know, those 

521
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,600
canisters. 
Actually, you can get in some 

522
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,700
cases to full tailgates out of 
the canister, if you're 

523
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:40,100
judicious in, how you utilize 
them, and I've found again, 

524
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,200
like, almost everything that I 
would want to cook. 

525
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,300
That didn't require a flat 
surface was was great on the 

526
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:50,000
Weber Q, 1000 or 1200. 
Give the, you know, I mean, 

527
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,300
hamburgers actually still prefer
when I'm doing sausages or 

528
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:57,500
hotdogs, I'll bring the cue 1000
that I've got to cook next to 

529
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:59,900
the griddle because I'm just not
a huge fan of how the griddle 

530
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:03,900
handles tubed meat. 
I just don't think it Cooks 

531
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,600
quite as well. 
I think you need more of an open

532
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,100
flame for that sort of thing. 
Now, certainly I think 

533
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,200
hamburgers are better on The 
Griddle and there's a lot of 

534
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,700
things like the shrimp that 
don't work nearly as well on the

535
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,500
Weber as they do on The Griddle 
but you can get by doing a lot 

536
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,700
of good tailgate stuff. 
Using one of those portable 

537
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:25,900
propane grills from Weber versus
what you might be. 

538
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,900
You trying to do with something 
else. 

539
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,500
One thing I will say is unless 
you are experienced and or 

540
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,500
planning on sticking around for 
a while, I would avoid using 

541
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:38,200
charcoal for two primary 
reasons, one and look, I'm a big

542
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,500
charcoal at home guy. 
I don't have a gas grill at all 

543
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:48,000
here that I use at my house but 
I do use gas when I'm traveling 

544
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,500
to cook, because propane grills 
cool down a lot faster. 

545
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,200
You don't have this messy. 
That's too hot to put in the 

546
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,800
trash bag and you know, you're 
like, where are you going to put

547
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,000
this? 
You know, you're either going to

548
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,400
dump it illegally and litter or 
you're going to risk, keeping it

549
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400
in the grill and not have it be 
completely cool when you put it 

550
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,200
back in your truck or car. 
So you know what I've generally 

551
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,400
found is I get done tailgating, 
I turn off the grill and it's 

552
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,300
cool enough to put back in the 
truck with in like 25 or 30 

553
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:20,600
minutes and that is not always 
the case with the charcoal. 

554
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,800
So if you're getting started or 
if you're looking for an upgrade

555
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,800
from whatever you're currently 
using, I'd rather Command a 

556
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,700
portable propane grill, and you.
Fortunately got a lot of good 

557
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:31,900
options. 
Coleman's, got some decent 

558
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,700
options as well. 
I just happen to like the Weber 

559
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:37,900
stuff a bit better. 
So anyway, I think that's going 

560
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,700
to wrap it up for this show 
about 30 minutes long and we 

561
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,800
look forward to talking with you
again in coming weeks. 

562
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:49,000
We'll be back with our regular 
post game review podcast, Scott.

563
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,700
And I will be coming to you on 
Sunday morning sometime, so be 

564
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:56,300
sure to keep an eye out for that
and let us So if you have 

565
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:58,000
questions, you can hit us up on 
Twitter. 

566
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,400
At Crimson cast is probably the 
best way to do. 

567
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,800
So you can hit me up to dr. 
G. 

568
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,900
C, on Twitter, always happy to 
hear from you folks. 

569
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:09,900
Thanks to home-field apparel for
their continued sponsorship and 

570
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,300
they're just overall good 
natured - of being the good 

571
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:17,700
brand and thanks to all the 
folks at the back home network 

572
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,400
and we will catch you folks on 
the flip side, bring back the 

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Bison. 
So long everybody.

