1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,560 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:20,440 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,880 GAIL and Fabio joining you. Good. 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,080 Monday morning, May March 24th. Not May, not yet at least. 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,640 First weekend of the NCAA Tournaments over transfer 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,360 portal. Has just opened for college. 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,480 Basketball and the IU women's season unfortunately comes to a 8 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:39,320 premature. Close A really good. 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,480 First half on the home floor of the number one seed South 10 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,560 Carolina Gamecocks. Indiana just couldn't quite 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,200 sustain in the second-half and they end up. 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Losing the game. It was a really, you know, hard 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,960 fought. Game, and certainly wanted to. 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Start off the show by. Just saluting. 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,720 The women's team in in what was a. 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Really, really difficult. Season on a number of levels. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,040 I think to to. Degrees that people are not 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,160 aware of, but. Really proud. 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Of the team for pulling together and, you know, giving it. 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,960 Such a good accounting in the NCAA tournament. 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,680 It is so hard, there's such a, it's so difficult to beat. 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Those top seeds on a year in, year out basis. 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,480 And. You know, you see that. 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Over and over again in. Women's college basketball, 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,520 there's such a concentration of talent at the top levels, and I 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,200 use kind of on the. Cusp they obviously lose. 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,360 You know, perhaps the. The greatest individual. 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Player the programs ever had. In mackenzie Holmes and they 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,480 still. Figure out a way to get to the 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,720 tournament. And, you know, play. 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Really well. For the first half against the 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 South Carolina. Team that's been so dominant. 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,160 In the NCAA Tournament. So a salute to Terry Moran and 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,520 the whole staff and the entire roster for. 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,240 All of the. Great memories they've given us 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,400 and and certainly a huge thank you to to the seniors Sydney 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Parish, Chloe Moore McNeil. I mean, you know the. 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,720 This group, this core has. Been such a an amazing. 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,920 Chapter in IU women's basketball and you know for. 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Any of them that we've seen in uniform for the last. 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,400 Time. It's been a tremendous. 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,400 Ride So thanks to you ladies and and thanks to the entire. 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Group that's involved in. IE women's basketball for making 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,480 it such a memorable. Last. 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Few years and hopefully it. Continues as we move. 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Forward before we get started. 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For paying subscribers, you 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,800 don't have to pay, but if you want to we got some stuff for 95 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,440 you anyway, let's we're. This is a short episode, wanted 96 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,640 to hit a couple. Of things. 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,320 First of all, no official. News as of 947 or whatever time 98 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,200 it is right now as far as entrance into. 99 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,640 The portal for IUI. Do think we will have some names 100 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,240 coming up here relatively soon, but nothing official and there's 101 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,640 been enough speculation I think over. 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,440 The course of the last few. Weeks about the coaching 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,520 situation and. All of that it doesn't really. 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,800 Pay to speculate too much right now on who exactly might be 105 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,560 saying who's going to be coming in. 106 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,400 We've heard a lot of names. We're going to just wait because 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 I mean, at this point I've heard more names. 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,640 Both for the coaching. Positions on the staff for 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,040 Darren Devries and. The players on the roster. 110 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,040 I've heard more names than there are slots. 111 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,400 So what's? The point in speculating at this 112 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,280 point, we'll have plenty to actually talk about as we get 113 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,400 some announcements coming up here over the course of the next 114 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,640 couple of weeks and as you heard Zach Osterman say when he was on 115 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,960 the podcast last week. This is probably going to be. 116 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,720 Quicker rather than longer across the board, the one kind 117 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,360 of outstanding piece that we're not. 118 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Totally sure about is what? Goes on with Luke Goody and and 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,760 his situation. I mentioned this a little bit 120 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,320 when I talked with Tony Adroni on that podcast, but if you 121 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,600 missed it. You know Luke Goody. 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,720 Under the the guidelines of. How you're supposed to. 123 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Get an extra. Year of eligibility due to. 124 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Injury is probably not eligible because you're supposed to only 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,920 play in a certain number of games and then be out the rest 126 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,640 of the season, not miss a bunch of the season and then come 127 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,520 back. And play a certain. 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,680 Number of games, and that's what happened with Goody when he was 129 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,320 at Illinois. However, as I. 130 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,720 Explained briefly on that podcast and I'll explain. 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Briefly again here, there's a couple of things at play. 132 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,640 One of them is that the NCAA. Really doesn't want to be 133 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,160 getting into a lot of court battles over eligibility. 134 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,400 You know, and even if they make initial rulings, as we saw with 135 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,120 the Diego Pavia situation at Vanderbilt. 136 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,720 What they're really worried about? 137 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 At this point, is this getting into the courts and the courts 138 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,440 being like? Well, your eligibility rules 139 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,040 actually. Aren't consistent and don't make 140 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,120 any sense. And what is the difference? 141 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Between missing the end of the season and missing the beginning 142 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,160 of the season, if you're missing the same amount of time, the NC 143 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,240 double AI think in most of these cases. 144 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Would prefer to be the. Ones still deciding on the 145 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,760 eligibility rather than letting the courts. 146 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Do it 'cause once the. Courts get involved as we've. 147 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,720 Seen they essentially ripped the NC. 148 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,360 AA's eligibility rules apart, especially now that there's. 149 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,880 Money involved and you know, so there's an antitrust element 150 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,360 here. Along alongside some other. 151 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,680 Things I am going to. Do actually I? 152 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Ran into a very nice lady when I was out and about in Bloomington 153 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,280 during the first few games of the NCAA tournament who I was 154 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,920 talking with and she was like, you know, I've. 155 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Heard your nil podcasts and how that. 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Works and I'm still not. Sure how it's set up. 157 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Many of you, I think. Fall into that same. 158 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Category, and this Luke Goody thing actually falls into that. 159 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Category as well. Even though it doesn't appear. 160 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,280 To right off the bat, so within the next couple of weeks. 161 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,400 I am going to get. A new. 162 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Podcast series going it'll. Still be within the Crimson. 163 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,920 Cast Feed, where we take a new look at what's going on in the 164 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,360 nil space. There's a lot of stuff. 165 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,400 That's going to happen. In the next. 166 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Couple of weeks with the house settlement. 167 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Which is supposed to be finalized essentially. 168 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Two weeks from today, on the same day as the NCAA 169 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Championship for the men. So there'll be a lot to cover, 170 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,880 and that's really what we're going to talk about in April 171 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,520 since we'll hopefully have a roster largely assembled by. 172 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,040 That point, but I want. To talk through where the rules 173 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,040 are. Where things seem to be headed, 174 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,600 how Indiana is situated and how these. 175 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Teams are budgeting for players. It's going to. 176 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Be a really interesting set of podcasts, I think, and one that. 177 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,840 Hopefully will help to edify all of you. 178 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,000 About what's going on within the world at this point. 179 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,360 So let's go. Ahead and and jump in. 180 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,880 I really just wanted to hit. That and the roster question. 181 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,040 And then there was an interesting question that was 182 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,360 asked last night on X by Noah Myers, who's one of our regular 183 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,240 listeners and he had the question. 184 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,920 Would love a pod of your reaction. 185 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,160 To the lack of upsets. And only power four teams being 186 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,000 in the Sweet 16, do you think this is mainly. 187 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Just a low sample size or do you feel like this is the? 188 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Effect of nil transfers and conference realignment. 189 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,680 That's a great. Question, and this is something 190 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:13,200 that I've noticed has been kind of dominating the. 191 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,680 Twittersphere and some of the other conversations regarding 192 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:22,400 college basketball this morning. Is it's like, oh great. 193 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,480 You know, there's only power conference teams. 194 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,840 This is terrible. The NCAA tournament has clearly 195 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,280 been negatively affected by. The things that were just. 196 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Mentioned by NOAA. I don't know if it's. 197 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Entirely that simple, but I do think. 198 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,840 It's worth walking through what the situation has been 199 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,600 historically. And and some of the things that 200 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,360 are factoring into the lack of upsets. 201 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,200 This year so. I guess first and foremost, you 202 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 know one of the things that I. I think is worth mentioning. 203 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Is that when you get ready to think about the NCAA Tournament 204 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,960 every year and when CBS is showing videos and highlights or 205 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,720 you're going on? YouTube you're. 206 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Seeing often times this big collection of upsets of of you 207 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,800 know all the famous games that we can remember. 208 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,760 You know, Florida Gulf Coast. Beating Georgetown, Steph Curry 209 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,960 beating Georgetown, You know the Bryce. 210 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Drew shot. You know, there's, you know, 211 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,720 Loyola. Knocking off all those teams in 212 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,360 route to the Final Four back in what was that, 2018? 213 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:23,880 And you know we. Tend to forget that. 214 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,240 For every one of those there's like 15. 215 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Or 20 very mundane games within college basketball's NCAA 216 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,200 tournament that we just don't think. 217 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,600 About after they're done. And I think to some. 218 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Degree people who have been. Looking around this year and 219 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,720 saying we're. All the upsets there is a little 220 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,840 bit of. Bias in terms of. 221 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,920 How we've perceived. Tournaments past, and 222 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 especially, I mean there were. Normally are more upsets in the 223 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,440 1st and 2nd rounds, but the idea that that automatically. 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Translates into a bunch of Cinderella stories in the Sweet 225 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,640 16. Just really. 226 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Hasn't been the case normally. There's. 227 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,880 One in the Sweet 16. I don't count Gonzaga in that. 228 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,680 List because Gonzaga while. Being in a small. 229 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,360 Conference in the West Coast Conference. 230 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Realistically, they are a power conference. 231 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Level team. They recruit like one, they have 232 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,560 the financial budget for one, they schedule like 1. 233 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,560 And they know they have. So much, so much sustained. 234 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,520 Success. They're an anomaly, so. 235 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,360 It's hard. I don't really. 236 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Count them in the mix. But if you take them out of the 237 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,000 mix and you go. Back and look through previous 238 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,040 NCAA tournaments. In the Sweet Sixteens, it's very 239 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,360 up and down, you know, last year. 240 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,560 Is a great. Example of this last year, 241 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,920 obviously. 16 teams in the Sweet 16. 242 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,360 You have Gonzaga, who again I'm not counting in this mix as a a 243 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,840 small conference team. You had one other non power 244 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,400 conference team and I am counting the Big East as a power 245 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,120 conference because you should in basketball. 246 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,760 One other non power conference team in the entire Sweet 16 last 247 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,000 year, that was San Diego State and they got mauled by UConn by 248 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,320 30 points in the Sweet 16. You know, the previous year you 249 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,360 did have. You know, a couple. 250 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Of entrants you had. San Diego State and then you had 251 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,960 Princeton, who made it all the way. 252 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,160 To the. The the regional semi final they 253 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 ended up losing to Creighton that time around and then of. 254 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Course he had Florida. Atlantic What's ironic that 255 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,800 year? Which ties into something we'll 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,560 talk. About later is everybody was 257 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:25,440 like, oh this. Is the new. 258 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,200 Way that it is in college basketball where? 259 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,360 You've the the transfer. Portal's helping the little guy 260 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,040 compete against the big guys and you know, now the it's the 261 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,320 opposite that we're hearing is that now the little guys can't 262 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,240 compete because the transfer. Portal has. 263 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,840 Has changed the way the talent is. 264 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,240 Distributed, which is true, but I think there's a little. 265 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Bit of an asterisk. There for this year for a 266 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,320 particular. Reason you go back to 2022, you 267 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,000 had Saint Peter. 'S who got all the way to the 268 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Elite 8 That was a real. Surprise. 269 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,320 And then you. Everybody else was a power. 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Conference team and you can kind of go. 271 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,160 Back through a lot of NCAA tournaments. 272 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,600 And you see that? Pattern where there's like. 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,160 One team that breaks through from a small conference and then 274 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,440 everybody else is not there. You know it's. 275 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Just power conference teams. So when I look at. 276 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:19,640 This I say to myself, I'm not overly concerned yet about this 277 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,080 being a trend. I think it's more of a it's an 278 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 end of one, as they would say in the statistical world. 279 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,080 For the moment, I do think it's worth keeping an eye on. 280 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,680 You know, there's a lot of. Factors that contribute to this 281 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,720 one of the things. That I thought was. 282 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Really interesting going into. The tournament this year, and I 283 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,520 think it's. It it bears out a. 284 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Trend that I'm seeing around. College basketball as a whole, 285 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,160 is that the the best? Teams this year were. 286 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Really good historically compared to. 287 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,160 How the best teams have been in previous years. 288 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,800 So as an example, if you know, let's take Ken Pom as an 289 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,800 example, Ken Pom as you've. Heard many times on our. 290 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Podcast before you hear, Ken. Pom thrown. 291 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Around all the time. Not everybody knows what it is. 292 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,600 You know the Pomeroy. Ratings are basically a measure. 293 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Of how effective is your? Offense or how efficient is your 294 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,680 offense against opponents? Waited for how good they. 295 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,040 Are and then how good is your defense against opponents? 296 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,240 Waited for how? Good they are. 297 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,680 And when you take the offensive rating, which is. 298 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,120 How? Often are or how much? 299 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Are you scoring per possession? And then you take the defensive 300 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,720 rating, which is how many points are you giving up per 301 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,000 possession? You get what's called a net 302 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,280 rating and the net rating. Is. 303 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,960 A measure of game by game. How much better are you, on 304 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,600 average than your opponent? So this year, the top team in 305 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,000 the Kenpom net rating and the net rating is different than the 306 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,880 net. Don't get. 307 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,760 I know that there's a lot of. Similar terminology, but the net 308 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,520 rating is just within Kenpom, the top. 309 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Rated. Team coming out of this past 310 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,000 weekend was Duke. Duke had a net rating of 38.99. 311 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Their offensive rating was 129.1. 312 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Their defensive rating was 90.1. So basically you take how many 313 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,200 points per possession they're scoring in an average game, and 314 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 you subtract how many points they're giving up in an average 315 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,720 game. So 129.1 -, 90.1. 316 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,000 You get 38.99 because it goes out to more decimal places, so 317 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,160 by comparison. Last year's best. 318 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Team at the end of the season was Yukon. 319 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Yukon had a net rating of 36.43. The second team last year in the 320 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,200 final rankings of Kemp on was Houston. 321 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:44,600 They had a net rating of 31.17. You have to go down to the 6th 322 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,200 place team. This year, which is. 323 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,160 Alabama to find a team that has a lower rating than the second 324 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,880 place team last year. So Houston, Florida, Auburn, 325 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Tennessee. 2345. All better than the second. 326 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Place team that we. Had last year in Ken Palm in 327 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,280 terms of offensive, in terms of net rating. 328 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,320 If you go back to 2023, Connecticut was the best team in 329 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,640 college basketball in terms of net rating and their net rating 330 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,720 that year post tournament was 29.86. 331 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,200 And again, you that would. Alabama. 332 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Would be above them. So UConn that year that they won 333 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,040 in 2023 would be 6th best in the country. 334 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 This year, now what? Is it? 335 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,120 And you can kind of go down the. List like if you take. 336 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,760 The 30th rated team this. Year, which was Baylor. 337 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Their net rating was 20.92. You know that would be good 338 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:48,080 enough to be the 17th best team, sorry, the 16th best, the 15th 339 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:55,280 best team last year and if you go back to 202320.92 you would 340 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,440 have been the 13th best team in the country. 341 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,920 So that gives you a sense of how much better the. 342 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Top. Of college basketball has 343 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,520 gotten. And I think a lot of it, 344 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,440 frankly. Has to do with coaches, really. 345 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,960 Starting to pay very close. Attention to this, these numbers 346 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,040 that we're talking about. To their. 347 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,800 Offensive and defensive efficiencies you're seeing and 348 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,839 this we saw a similar thing happened in the professional 349 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,680 game about a decade. Ago where there was a real 350 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,440 emphasis. On where are you taking shots? 351 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,240 Make sure. The shots are of high quality 352 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,560 and make sure the shots. Are going to positively 353 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,360 contribute. To. 354 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,760 How your team is scoring and. Also try to force your. 355 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Opponent into taking less efficient shots. 356 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,640 You know what I would anticipate is. 357 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,840 That's part of the issue, is that coaches really are. 358 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Looking at that and they're saying, gosh, you know, if we 359 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,880 can have, you know. As good of an. 360 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Overall net efficiency rating as. 361 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Possible and here are the. Things we need to engage in in 362 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,240 order to guarantee that, and a lot of that, again, is shot. 363 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,920 Selection. It's one of the reasons why. 364 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,200 The Mike Woodson era was very frustrating and the Archie 365 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,080 Miller era was Miller era was frustrating. 366 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,920 It was because in both offenses, Indiana did not seem focused on 367 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,640 taking the most efficient shots. They did not seem interested in 368 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,880 running a particularly efficient offense, and they couldn't 369 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,240 provide a good enough defense to compensate. 370 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,200 And I think. That that's a really key. 371 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,360 Thing to keep in mind as you go through and and think about why 372 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:37,120 Indiana hired Darren. Devries a lot of it had to do 373 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:41,120 with the idea that his. System as we've seen at. 374 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,400 Several of the schools that. Indiana is is looking at as as 375 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,480 potentially emulating will help to maximize those efficiencies 376 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,080 defensively. You know what's interesting is 377 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,600 if you look at the teams. That were really good 378 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,040 defensively. But not that great. 379 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Offensively, most of them are. Not alive anymore in the NCAA 380 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,280 tournament. Most of the teams that are 381 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,320 still. Alive in the tournament. 382 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,520 As of today, are either really good? 383 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Offensively and just kind of OK defensively. 384 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Or they're really good in both. So, Duke. 385 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,920 Is first in offensive efficiency and 4th in defensive efficiency. 386 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,240 Houston's 10th in offensive efficiency and 1st in defensive 387 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,720 efficiency. Florida, second in offensive 388 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 efficiency and 11th in defensive efficiency. 389 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,320 You know, Gonzaga lost, but Gonzaga? 390 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Really only lost because they were playing. 391 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Houston, that's a really tough. Match up for. 392 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,800 What was a really good team, but you go down the list and Saint 393 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,440 Mary. 'S a good. 394 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Example Saint Mary's clearly. Was not at the same level as 395 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Alabama and if you look at Saint Mary's final rankings. 396 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Right now they were 60. 2nd in offensive efficiency and 7th in 397 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,320 defensive efficiency. St. 398 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,800 John's is. Probably the big test case here. 399 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,320 I picked St. John's to. 400 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Lose early in the tournament. 'Cause I just didn't think that 401 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,480 their combination was going to. Work 'cause they were 60. 4th in 402 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,920 offensive efficiency and 2nd in defensive efficiency. 403 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,000 Texas. A&M was a slightly better 404 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,400 version of that same profile. 42nd in offense, Second. 405 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,560 Or 8th in defense so. This Kansas? 406 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,760 Was in the same boat. Actually, So what we're. 407 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,440 Seeing is a teams coalescing around needing to be efficient 408 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 offensively. And a lot of that. 409 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,880 Has to do with the fact that. There's a only. 410 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,240 This kind of a threshold. Where you can. 411 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,160 Make it worthwhile to focus like. 412 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,320 Hyper Hyper effectively on defense. 413 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,800 You know if you go back and look at the. 414 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,120 The the top. Defensive ratings in college. 415 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:39,280 Basketball over the course of the last several years. 416 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,200 This year, the best defensive. Rating was Houston and they had 417 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,200 a a defensive rating of 87.8. Last year, it was Iowa State. 418 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,360 Who had a defensive rating of 87.5 the year before. 419 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,440 That it was Tennessee 87 point. Five the year before that. 420 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,840 Texas Tech 85. The year before that. 421 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,480 Memphis 86. The the the best you can. 422 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Do on average in terms of defensive efficiency is kind of 423 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,720 compressed? Right there you really that's 424 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,080 really good, but. There's not a tremendous 425 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,600 difference. In terms of that number and say 426 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,400 being the 20th best defense, you know, in 2021 the 20th best 427 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,920 defense was allowing 9 or .91. Points per possession this year. 428 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,120 The the 20th ranked defense was averaging 95.4 points per 429 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:28,400 possession, so you're seeing a drift away. 430 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,840 From like a hyper focus. On defense now offensively, Duke 431 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720 was the most efficient offense in the country this year at 129 432 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,520 point. One so essentially. 433 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,480 About 1.3 points per possession on offense, adjusted for 434 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,800 opponent. You go down the list and you 435 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,040 know Tennessee, who was 17th in the country in offensive 436 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:54,280 efficiency, had an offensive efficiency rating of 120.5 when 437 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,120 you go. Back to last year. 120.5. 438 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Would have been good for. 9th. Or 10th in the country in 439 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,720 offensive efficiency, you know, 120 point. 5. 440 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,520 In 2023 would have been good for. 3rd in the country. 441 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,040 In offensive efficiency and, and you can kind of go back and and 442 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,840 that's been the. Pattern. 443 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,760 So this year was. Odd, because it was very. 444 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Much. A year where we once. 445 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Again, had very hyper efficient offenses at the top levels. 446 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,600 And this feeds into the next thing which is nil in the 447 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,760 portal. A lot of the reason. 448 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,040 Why teams have been able. At the top levels of basketball. 449 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,720 In my. Opinion to have more success. 450 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,960 Offensively, while maintaining a certain level of defensive 451 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,880 efficiency. Is because they've been able to. 452 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Plug holes with ready made players. 453 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,280 Players that they've gotten on transfers, either lateral 454 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,200 transfers from either power, other power conference teams. 455 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Or players like Cam Spencer. Who come up from a lower level? 456 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,200 And end up. On a team where they can really 457 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520 contribute. We saw Indiana. 458 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,080 Try to do a similar thing where. You know most of. 459 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,760 Their transfers this year were. Lateral. 460 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Moves from, you know, Washington. 461 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,560 State which was a power. Conference team as of. 462 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,360 Last year from Arizona, you know, from Stanford. 463 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,240 That that, you know, that was the idea behind. 464 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,640 What Indiana was doing Luke Goody coming over from Illinois. 465 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,000 This is an interesting shift and and I do. 466 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,360 Think that this is probably where the. 467 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,880 Biggest impact is happening. On the upsets in the. 468 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,160 The underdogs. There are still. 469 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Some good individual players, we saw some of them playing. 470 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800 For some of these teams. Obviously everybody who fell in 471 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,320 love. With Bennett. 472 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Sturtz from Drake this year. Colorado State had some. 473 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,560 Really. Good contributors. 474 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,800 That was, you know, it was really. 475 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Fascinating to watch them come. Together as a team over. 476 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:40,320 Time. You know, but. 477 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,200 Even they were using some transfers, you know, they, they 478 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,040 brought in a Purdue transfer in Ethan Morton and you know they, 479 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,200 they brought in a transfer in Nick Clifford who was one of 480 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,480 their. Best players this year from 481 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,120 Colorado and. You know, he wasn't just one of 482 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,160 the best players on their team, he was one of the best players 483 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,280 in the country by the end of the year in terms. 484 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Of efficiency, so. You do have some filtration. 485 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,400 Up. And this is, to some degree, 486 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 it's like a different version of what happened in the NBA when 487 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,200 the NBA was like. We don't want any more. 488 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,160 One and done's. Why did the NCAA do that? 489 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,800 You know the ultimately there's one of the NBA do that. 490 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,120 Sorry. Ultimately, there's a bunch of 491 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,960 different arguments that. Have been made some of. 492 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,720 Which? Center around the idea that too 493 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,160 much money was being paid to to rookies and and guys who hadn't 494 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,160 proven anything but I've always looked at. 495 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,360 It from the perspective of. The NBA, as with most. 496 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:41,120 Other leagues wants to reduce. Risk and uncertainty by having a 497 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,480 sense of who they're bringing onto their rosters and what they 498 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240 can do against good competition before just plopping them in 499 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,400 there. This has always been. 500 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,720 One of the biggest? Challenges in college 501 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,000 basketball. Because so much of the focus for 502 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,320 so long was on recruiting. And who are you bringing in and 503 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,680 recruiting and are you getting 5? 504 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Stars or are you? Getting four stars or are you 505 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,120 getting, you know, the the sweet? 506 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,920 Spot types of players. Those players. 507 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Ranked between 30 and 80. And yet we know from having 508 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,880 watched IU and having watched other teams in the Big 10 in the 509 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,520 Upper. Reaches of college basketball 510 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,000 that. It's not a guarantee that. 511 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Those players necessarily will translate. 512 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Into being the best basketball. Players, we also know there's a 513 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,840 ton of flaws. Within the evaluative process of 514 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,360 looking at basketball players, you know when Tyrese Halliburton 515 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,560 is a three star that ends up at Iowa State. 516 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,600 Or you know, you can go through the list. 517 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,520 Of a bunch of different. Types of players who end up 518 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280 being really, really amazing. What you find is that. 519 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800 You know the either either, you know players. 520 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,000 Blossom at different times or. Players. 521 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,360 Are perhaps under under heralded. 522 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,840 Because they're in a spot. Where they're not playing 523 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960 against best competition. So I think what we're seeing 524 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,720 here is college coaches now that the transfer portal is fully. 525 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,080 Open and has been used. For a few years are. 526 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Using it as a way to not worry as much about trying to hit on 527 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,920 every recruit. You still want to bring in some 528 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,160 recruits, but a lot of it now in terms of roster building is, 529 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720 well, if we can bring a guy in who's proven something at a 530 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,240 lower level when we think that his game translates, why 531 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720 wouldn't we just do? That as opposed to rolling. 532 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000 The dice on a high school player that might transition to the 533 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,360 next level effectively, or might not. 534 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,440 You get older players that way you get. 535 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Players that have some experience at the D1 level. 536 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,200 You get a chance to. See what they can do and. 537 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,520 There's a. Again, there's a reduction in 538 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,680 risk. Through that process, because 539 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,240 you were a pretty good idea if you have a good system. 540 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 Who is going to plug into that system and who can do the things 541 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,520 for your team that are? Effective. 542 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,360 What that does, though, is it takes a lot of the players that 543 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:50,280 are at lower levels. And it moves them up so that now 544 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,160 they have a shot at competing against top competition rather 545 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,560 than languishing wherever they were at. 546 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,760 You think about the way that the. 547 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,920 System used to work. With coaches having to. 548 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,640 Focus so much on recruiting. It was very. 549 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,880 Difficult to. Factor in transfers Junior 550 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,520 college. Players being a different story, 551 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,560 but transfers in general, like if you're having, if you have a 552 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,400 certain number of scholarships. Every year. 553 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,680 And you're giving those scholarships out to incoming 554 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,280 recruits you're not going to just set aside. 555 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,800 A couple of. Those and think well maybe 556 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,320 they'll be transfers. It was really hard to even know 557 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,600 who was going to transfer in those circumstances now with 558 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,280 people having the portal to utilize and being. 559 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560 Able to get their their. Name out there as someone who's 560 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,880 interested in moving officially. It allows for a lot more upward 561 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,240 movement, and it means that coaches now have another thing 562 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,120 to factor in. But I think most coaches. 563 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,720 When given the opportunity. Would rather go get the guy from 564 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,720 a lower level who perhaps got. Overlooked in the recruiting 565 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,080 process or blossomed and you know, rather than necessarily 566 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,760 always rolling the dice on a new. 567 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,040 Recruit, which means though, that you get a lot of. 568 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,400 Players that don't stay. Where they're at? 569 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,160 So like Jani Broom's a great example of this. 570 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,680 This is a guy that played his first two years of college. 571 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000 At Morehead State, not at Auburn. 572 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,760 You know, he he wasn't a recruit from there. 573 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,320 Chad Baker Mazzara is a great example. 574 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Went from Duquesne to San Diego State to Auburn and you know. 575 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 So there, right there. Is kind of a double whammy where 576 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,360 you have an A10 school you've got, you know? 577 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,680 Going up to a higher. Level with a Mountain West 578 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,400 school and now he's in the SEC. A lot of people don't like this. 579 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,320 A lot of people. And as we've seen with the 580 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,480 tournament, they'll say to themselves. 581 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760 Well, that harms the product. We enjoy that harms the upsets 582 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,560 and harms the ability for the underdog. 583 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,920 To win it is still. Possible. 584 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,160 And you know, we did see that a little. 585 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Bit in this tournament. You know, Colorado State got on 586 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,440 a run as a really good. Coach that a really good. 587 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520 Plan and system and they beat several teams that. 588 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Were better than they were. Obviously Drake with Ben 589 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,800 McCollum had a system that worked really well and they were 590 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,280 able to bring that into the NCAA tournament and you know, they. 591 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,520 They, you know, obviously they. Beat Mizzou. 592 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Who was a better? Team on paper and you know, see. 593 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,400 It is still possible to do it? But I do think that it's going 594 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 to get harder and harder because the. 595 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,280 Moment you have a player that shows that they are playing 596 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,320 above the level of the. Team that they are playing for 597 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,680 initially in college, the team that may have recruited them the 598 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,440 hardest. The team that gave them a solid 599 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040 offer when a power conference team didn't the moment that. 600 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Player starting to show a level of promise. 601 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,280 The likelihood. Is they're going to end up at 602 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 that next level up and we saw it with Indiana State. 603 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Last year. You know, you know, with with 604 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,200 Robbie Avila and. You know he, he follows. 605 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Josh Schertz to Saint Louis it and that disappointed. 606 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440 A lot of people, but. That's the natural progression 607 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,920 of things, because in the pecking order. 608 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,960 Of college basketball. Playing for an A10 team is going 609 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,760 to be. Above. 610 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,000 The. Station of playing for a 611 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Missouri Valley team, and we're hearing it. 612 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320 With with Bennett Sturtz, right? Now, where he's likely to follow 613 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,160 Ben McCollum to Iowa. So. 614 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,320 It makes it very difficult and you almost. 615 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,720 Have to catch lightning in a bottle that given year. 616 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,360 With the idea that you're probably. 617 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Not going to be. Able to sustain, I don't. 618 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,840 Have as much of a problem with this. 619 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,120 I mean it does. It is unfortunate in terms of. 620 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Being a spectator for the NCAA. Tournament and not having the. 621 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Upsets, but the flip side of it is it's a lot better for players 622 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,800 to be able to develop at higher levels. 623 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,800 And get better coaching if you've demonstrated. 624 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,600 That you get recruited to a Morehead state, but physically. 625 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680 And in terms of your understanding of the game, 626 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,680 you're just significantly better than where you. 627 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Started. Why should it be so difficult to 628 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,480 go? Somewhere where you can get 629 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,040 better coaching and get. Access to better facilities. 630 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,440 And get. More exposure for your. 631 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Game that's always been the. Part of you know the. 632 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,360 Whole NCAA like. We're here to. 633 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800 Watch out for student athletes thing that's always wrong hollow 634 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,920 to me because if you're there for student athletes. 635 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,480 You should make it easy for them to go. 636 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Get what they need and it's and you know, people. 637 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Who are like, well, you have to be loyal to your school. 638 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,320 I'll note that schools cut players all the time. 639 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,360 Scholarships are one year renewables. 640 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,720 They're not guarantees for four. Years. 641 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 And. Regular students if you're 642 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,400 really. Going to call them. 643 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Student athletes transfer all the time, wherever they want, 644 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,680 with no restrictions. And they'll often do. 645 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,560 It because they have legitimate. Career reasons or they have 646 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,120 family reasons. Or it's just nobody else's. 647 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,960 Business, it's just something. That they're interested in 648 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,040 doing. Maybe they need a change of 649 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,840 scenery. So I think that that's. 650 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,440 Playing into it a lot. Is you have upward mobility of 651 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840 players and you should this is really how it. 652 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Works in the soccer world. Globally, you know a player 653 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,000 that. Signs their initial contract for 654 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,680 a League One team or a Championship team in in England. 655 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,080 If they demonstrate themselves to be superior than that level, 656 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440 they're going to move. Up really quickly because. 657 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,600 They need to like, they need to play. 658 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,320 At those higher levels and this. Is where I think sometimes the 659 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,400 American version of. How we do sports. 660 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Development has been. Really screwed up because. 661 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,480 It's been so heavily focused on what's good for the teams and. 662 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,200 What's good for the coaches, not necessarily what's best for 663 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,320 players. Trying to develop themselves, 664 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,880 you know, and for every John Morant who plays his entire. 665 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,040 Career at a lower level. And still shines through and 666 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800 gets drafted. There's plenty of players who 667 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,000 probably never reached their full potential because they were 668 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,120 stuck at a level. Where they didn't get enough 669 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,600 exposure or didn't get the right kind of coaching or the right 670 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,440 type of competitive atmosphere and you know, ultimately all of 671 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,240 this in part. Has to be about the. 672 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Development of players and moving them up the. 673 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Ladder. That's what you should be. 674 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,640 Doing in a sports environment, not making it. 675 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320 So that you are locked in to what you. 676 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,000 Were as an 18 year old when you may be a completely different 677 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,160 type of player when you're 20 or 21. 678 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,480 Anyway, that's my take on that. The one other thing I'll note 679 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,520 from what Noah asked is how realignment has affected things. 680 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,520 And there was a note. That I saw like this. 681 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Is the the smallest concentration of conferences 682 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,080 having teams in the Sweet 16 that we've had and and old maybe 683 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,400 ever? And if you you look. 684 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,520 You go down the list. It's, you know, ACC. 685 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:09,400 One team Big 12. SEC Big. 10-4 conferences. 686 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,320 That's it. What I do think? 687 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,760 Is interesting and a. Little bit I think worth. 688 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Noting is the teams that you know this. 689 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,400 Year the. Teams that are in these 690 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,560 conferences, there's really as you scan through the. 691 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,480 List. There's really only three. 692 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,760 Of them. That you could legitimately say 693 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,080 are the product directly of. Conference realignment. 694 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,720 BYU, which you know. Danced around a bunch of. 695 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Different leagues for a while is is certainly. 696 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,280 One of those teams. And you know. 697 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,840 BBYU. Joining the Big 12 was certainly 698 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,440 a big one, but keep in mind like. 699 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360 You know BYU has. Moved around conferences a bunch 700 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400 in basketball because of their uncertain. 701 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,640 Status with football and whether. 702 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,200 They want to be independent or whether they want to be. 703 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,520 With a another conference. They were in the mountain. 704 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520 West for years then. They were in the West Coast 705 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Conference for a decade. Now they're in the Big 12. 706 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,800 I don't look at that. As being. 707 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,480 Necessarily an artifact of. Of the you know the. 708 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Consolidation of things, but it is worth mentioning. 709 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Arizona, obviously would. Have been in the PAC 12 and now 710 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,159 they're in the Big 12. You look at the rest of the. 711 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,199 Teams that made it and. I think they were the only old 712 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,400 PAC 12. Team that made it. 713 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,880 To the Sweet 16. The third team that's worth. 714 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,440 Mentioning is Houston, but. Again, Houston has been a. 715 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,679 Special case for a while because Houston to some degree they got. 716 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,679 Lost in the shuffle a long time ago, they were in. 717 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,440 Conference USA for years they. Moved to the American, which is 718 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,960 where Connecticut. Was for a while. 719 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,239 And then? They got an opportunity to join 720 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880 the Big 12. So there's your three from this 721 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,719 year, you know, I would actually. 722 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,159 Argue that in college basketball, the biggest damaging 723 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,639 moves from conference realignment have not been. 724 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,080 The consolidation of the big. Conferences as much as it's been 725 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,640 the loss of teams in the the next tier of conferences and 726 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200 that's generally only been one or two teams per conference. 727 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,640 So as an example, the Missouri Valley Conference, I mentioned a 728 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,280 couple. Of. 729 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Weeks ago on the podcast and Missouri. 730 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,880 Valley used to be reliably. A multi bid league but then they 731 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040 lost Creighton to the Big East when the big. 732 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,800 East Re established itself as a purely. 733 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,240 Basketball conference in the mid twenty 10s and then they. 734 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,080 Lost Wichita State, who of course went. 735 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,800 To a a final four and was the number one. 736 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,560 Seed. They lose both of those. 737 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,000 Teams in about a five year span and even the teams that they 738 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,920 tried to replace. Them with like Loyola? 739 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,400 End up bouncing for other pastures now Loyola I think is 740 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,400 in the Atlantic. Ten. 741 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,000 Well, that was. That hurt the Mount, the 742 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,160 Missouri Valley, and the Missouri Valley now is just not 743 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,200 a. Very good conference. 744 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,960 It's still got some interesting. Basketball, but in terms of. 745 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,560 Top end It doesn't really. Have the well funded programs. 746 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,240 That can compete at the national level the way they had a decade 747 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,280 ago. The Mountain West is kind of. 748 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,960 Undergoing a similar thing. Obviously they they had BYUA. 749 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,480 Long time ago and they lose them and then you know they. 750 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,840 They. Still got San Diego State. 751 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200 But. They're, you know, now they're 752 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,840 in a position where. You know, they've they've. 753 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Clustered a lot around about four or five programs within 754 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,760 that conference and. It's it's kind of. 755 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,680 Worked out for them over. Time, but you look at. 756 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,760 Them and you're already you know you've you've heard that. 757 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,520 There's going to be bouncing, you know, out of that into. 758 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,720 The the reconstituted PAC 12. Or the Mountain West or 759 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,360 whatever, like it happens. It's going to happen if it 760 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,720 hasn't. Happened already so. 761 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,240 The Atlantic 10 is another good example of this, where the 762 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,280 Atlantic 10. Lost, you know, a couple. 763 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,200 Of teams in in. Xavier and in there was one 764 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,720 other and and Butler. Butler was only. 765 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,600 There for a year. They also lose Temple. 766 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400 Like those were the teams. That were regularly going to the 767 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600 NCAA, well they're all gone now and the Atlantic 10 does not 768 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,360 have a lot of well funded athletic. 769 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,640 Departments, so they can't really. 770 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,160 Put. A a good product out there. 771 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,480 Consistently and the teams again that they used. 772 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,720 To fill those. Gaps like George Mason, Loyola, 773 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,520 they're just not at the level I think Duquesne was at or no, 774 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,080 Duquesne's been there for a while, but they they just 775 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,880 haven't added the types of teams that you would need in order to. 776 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,680 Compete consistently those teams have. 777 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160 Started to matriculate up. So it's a bunch of. 778 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Factors and and look I think ultimately until and unless 779 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,760 there is a standardization of employment contracts for college 780 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,000 basketball players you're. Going to have this situation. 781 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,320 Where you're going to have this constant upflow of not. 782 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,080 Just players, but also. Programs as they try to cluster 783 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,120 around the best conferences. This is probably an artifact of 784 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,920 the idea that. Division One basketball. 785 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,000 Got a little bit too. Big and I always try to remind 786 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,160 people of this. Like when? 787 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880 The NCAA Tournament. Expanded to 64. 788 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,360 Teams in 1985. There were only about 200 and. 789 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,200 52160 Division One teams. There's 100 more. 790 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920 Of those teams. Now than there were before. 791 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600 And the money has concentrated. More and more at the. 792 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,840 Top, but that is to some degree. Kind of a misconception, yes. 793 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,560 Conferences have kind of. Glommed together with each 794 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,280 other. But a lot of the teams that have 795 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560 been added over the course of the last 40 years. 796 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,920 Have not been. Particularly well funded. 797 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,760 They've not been particularly well established and often times 798 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,720 they're pulling in players that might not otherwise be playing 799 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,280 Division One basketball. Obviously you got 100 teams, you 800 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,720 add 1200 players that weren't playing it before. 801 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,640 So, you know, is it alarming? I don't. 802 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,720 Know that we can say it yet necessarily. 803 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,880 I do think that the smaller conferences will coalesce around 804 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000 a different model financially. Will that be? 805 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,680 Competitive. I'm not entirely sure. 806 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,640 If you have employment contracts, you might be able to 807 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,560 keep a player around for an extra season. 808 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,440 That will help with upsets, but I do think it's a little early 809 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,160 to. Shovel dirt on the NCAA 810 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,080 tournament and say, well, if you're not going to have any 811 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400 upsets anymore, we need a little bit more time to. 812 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,880 See how all of. All of this stuff plays out, but 813 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,920 that's essentially why the tournament looks like it does. 814 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,000 Right now and if you go through the. 815 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,120 Rosters and you look at the way that the coaches. 816 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,880 And the teams and the players were approaching these things. 817 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,320 I think you'll see some of the patterns that I've been talking 818 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,400 about here anyway. That'll wrap it up. 819 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,640 I wanted to keep. This one. 820 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120 Relatively short and for Crimson cast I guess 40 minutes is 821 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,240 relatively. Short, but we'll be back. 822 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,040 As there's more IU news coming, we'll have transfer portal news, 823 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,840 we'll have coaching staff news, all of that coming. 824 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,360 Up relatively soon my. Thanks to our presenting 825 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,120 sponsor, Home Field Apparel and my thanks to all you. 826 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,760 Folks, as always for. Listening in, we'll catch you 827 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,440 folks. On the flip side, stay never 828 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,280 daunted. Bring back the bison. 829 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,120 It's all everybody.