1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,080 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:22,840 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:28,400 GAIL and Clavio joining you here along with Scott Caulfield. 4 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,640 I think this time I'm here. Can you hear me? 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,240 All right, we got it. We had some technical issues and 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,760 had to abort the first recording of this, but fortunately, 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,840 Scott's back. We're back and IU football is 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,000 back once again. Five and O on the season, 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,600 knocking off the Maryland Terrapins on this past Saturday 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,760 in what was one of the more fun, if not the most fun experiences 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,400 that I can remember having at Memorial Stadium in my lifetime. 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,040 Scott, I don't know how you felt about it, but it was a 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,280 rollicking time in the in the mist, in the rain as the 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Hoosiers knock off the Terrapins go to five and overall and two 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,360 and O in conference play. Scott, first of all, good to see 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,160 you. Happy weekend. 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,720 How are you doing? I'm doing awesome. 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 I echo a lot of your comments. This is going to be a a fun 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,200 podcast for those people who have been fans of Indiana 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,400 football, fans of our coverage of the. 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,600 The football program, I think this is going to be a fun 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,160 podcast because we're in a good place. 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,120 There seems to be a lot of blue skies ahead. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,240 It's good times, man. It's really good times. 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Let's dive into things. 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Again, Who's Your Game Day 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Logger from Upland Brewing Company. 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,680 And with our next game being a road game, I was at Upland on 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Friday. I highly recommend the Pig and 81 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,000 the Fig. It's a great like burger with a 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,160 nice like fig spread on it. I go, I asked the arugula 83 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,880 because that's the way I roll. But with our next Rd. game, you 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,160 know, Saturday being a game, 3:30 at Northwestern. 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,680 If you're not going up there, go to one of their locations. 86 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,560 They have a great one here in Clay Terrace in Westfield and 87 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,560 like enjoy the Hoosier game day logger with a little bit of food 88 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,880 watching the game with your closest friends at Upland. 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,040 How can you remove the arugulo you're you're like a. 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,880 I'm not a rabbit, it's just. It's just not adding it. 91 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,560 It's like. Arugulo is amazing. 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,800 I I refuse to stand by for Arugulo. 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Is great on a burger or a sandwich, but like. 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,360 Come on, man, Arugula's got soul. 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:58,920 Come on. It's. 96 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,160 That soul. But it doesn't taste good on a 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,920 burger. Amazing. 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,400 It tastes amazing on a burger actually. 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Sounds like little sticks and straws like it's too much. 100 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,480 Now it's. Amazing on pizza as well, but 101 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,040 we'll we'll get back to that that's. 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,680 That's a that's a heresy. Well, maybe. 103 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Maybe I'm buying generic arugula. 104 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,600 I don't think Upland has it. But maybe because you hate 105 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,960 generic chips. Maybe I need artisan version 106 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,280 Artisan. Arugula you you. 107 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,440 And arugula tailgate. See who shows up. 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,840 That's Scott and I's off the books indie band, an artist and 109 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:27,920 arugula dude. Great band name playing at the 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,040 hi-fi this weekend in Indianapolis. 111 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,120 Anyway, Also, just a reminder folks, we're on Substack. 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Hit us up at crimsoncast.substack.com. 113 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,240 It's free to sign up. You get our podcast delivered 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,320 right to your inbox. You can avoid the messiness of 115 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,520 going to social media to get them. 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,560 We also have AVIP option. We occasionally provide extra 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,640 videos. It's mostly there if you want to 118 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,720 help support the podcast financially, which does help 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,320 keep the lights on. 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I really, really could. 130 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,520 The Hoosiers, 42 to 28 victors over the Maryland Terrapins. 131 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,960 We went into this game and it almost went exactly the opposite 132 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,960 of how I thought it might go. Because before the game, I'm 133 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 thinking, well, you know, I think Indiana is the superior 134 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,960 team, not by an immense margin, but enough that, you know, I was 135 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,800 comfortable with the seven point spread. 136 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,560 And I thought, well, this is an IU team. 137 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,080 It's probably going to come out and really establish themselves 138 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,520 early, get an early lead, not dissimilar to what happened in 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,200 the UCLA game. And then, you know, maybe 140 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,640 there's a little fighting back by Maryland later on it. 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,160 It almost went the exact opposite of that where neither 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,920 team could get a foothold in this game. 143 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,200 It was really back and forth for almost the entire first half and 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,280 really even into the first part of the second-half. 145 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,400 But Indiana, despite shooting itself in the foot on multiple 146 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,240 occasions, really put their stamp on the game in the 147 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:23,160 second-half and went from a 2121 tie game to a 4228 victory over 148 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,560 the span of basically the last quarter and 1/2. 149 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,120 The defense really deserves most of the plaudits for keeping 150 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Indiana in this game early on as the offense continued to make 151 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,160 mistakes. But then the offense really got 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,120 into a stride as we went into that second-half. 153 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,400 And you know, you look at the statistics afterwards and you 154 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,160 say to yourself, well, this look like another really dominant 155 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,800 performance from Indiana in terms of offense. 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,560 And yet it didn't feel like Indiana was a dominant offensive 157 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,800 team until the very end of the game. 158 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Essentially, one of those games where Indiana acted with a 159 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,160 maturity and an unflappability that I am just simply not used 160 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,600 to seeing out of IU football team. 161 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Scott, what were your initial impressions of how this game 162 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:06,520 went? He. 163 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Had to not start off well. I mean, here the high level take 164 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,040 away for me is this. We had four turnovers in the 165 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,440 game. Our first six drives were 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,680 included, three turnovers, 2 interceptions, back back-to-back 167 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,080 interceptions. We had a fumble and two punts 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,560 and one touchdown in our first six drives. 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Maryland had that one big. They had a one play 75 yard 170 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,200 touchdown. Dr. They had that one big play. 171 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,280 That always seems to happen against us. 172 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 A lot of the breaks went toward Maryland. 173 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,039 You know, in that play, unfortunately, a referee got 174 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,600 bumped into an IU player, which kind of helped open the hole. 175 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,960 That's a bummer. They had that play in the end 176 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,600 zone. Great catch. 177 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,320 Like the a tip ball, the tight end like tipped it back to 178 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,480 himself, caught it. The point is all of those 179 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,320 waffles fired up. That dog freaking out. 180 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Hold on. On my door, Grayson, open this 181 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,480 is this is. There you go. 182 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,520 Now close the door. That's awesome. 183 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,000 All right, that's my son. Sorry, it's it's Crimson cast. 184 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,080 He's there listening to the script. 185 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:13,960 All those things happened and we still won by 14, which is 186 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,280 unbelievable. Like in any other hiss any other 187 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,120 game that we've had, even the good seasons that we've had 188 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,320 those kinds of things happen in games where it's like, well, you 189 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,480 know, we we would have this podcast by gold Galen. 190 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,880 Things are going well, but this was like about as bad as, you 191 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,000 know, everything small systems failure. 192 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,400 You're going to chalk it up to just, hey, man, that was a bad 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,120 day for everybody. Not only did we win by 14, we 194 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,520 never trailed like we, I was thinking this in the third 195 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 quarter, like we never really relinquished control of the 196 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,640 steering wheel. Like I think we went up 28 to 21 197 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,160 and then Maryland immediately had that 20 that that 75 yard 198 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,920 touchdown. But you know, other seasons, 199 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,040 like we would have like gone 3 and out and had Maryland kick a 200 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,080 field goal. It's like you lose, then 201 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,600 suddenly you're like, now you're coming from behind it. 202 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,760 By the way, we've never trailed the season like just think about 203 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,840 that. But it to me that's the high 204 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,320 level take away is felt like we could have won by 21 or 28. 205 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,920 We still won by 14 against a good Maryland team and we didn't 206 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,640 play even close to our best. But we we were able to make 207 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,680 adjustments, make changes. But through all of that, again, 208 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:19,040 it's like we just never lost our grip on the steering wheel. 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,640 And this is something that I'm going to mention many times in 210 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,960 this podcast. There's something different 211 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,200 here. Like it's just there is 212 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,920 something different here. You can feel it in the game, in 213 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,600 the stands, the way this team plays, like you can see in the 214 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,080 numbers, you can see in the winds. 215 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,480 But even just kind of somebody who's watched football for 30 216 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,680 years, watched IU football for 30 plus years, you know, it's 217 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,240 something is changing for the positive. 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,320 Yeah, it absolutely feels like there's just a different aura 219 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,240 around this team when it's on the field and that you know, it, 220 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 it really is starting to get into the crowd. 221 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,840 I I think there was clearly a a hesitancy on the part of some 222 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 people to get too excited during the Charlotte game or even show 223 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,320 up for the Charlotte game because it was just perceived as 224 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,200 a lesser opponent. And look, I was a little upset 225 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,120 at the beginning with the crowd yesterday because it wasn't as 226 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,680 full as I would have liked to have seen it. 227 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,920 But by the time everything filled in and the students got 228 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,000 all the way in there, which took about until the five minute mark 229 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,640 of the first quarter, that was a really nice crowd. 230 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,240 And the way that the crowd responded to the team was 231 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,960 indicative of the difference in vibe and the difference in aura. 232 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,320 You know, there's this flow right now where this you keep 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,240 waiting. If you're an IU fan that's been 234 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,520 watching football for a while, you keep waiting for that other 235 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,080 shoe to drop. You keep waiting for the bottom 236 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,480 to fall out and for IU to to panic. 237 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,160 It looked at the beginning. I mean, those two interceptions 238 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,560 that Curtis worked through, the first one I didn't think was 239 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,600 that big of a deal. I think it was just a mystery. 240 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,240 The second one was just a bad throw. 241 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,320 And I was right in line with it. And we're looking around and 242 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,920 like, oh God, here we go. But, you know, not just the 243 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,680 defense responding and essentially rising to the 244 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:06,320 occasion while the offense sorted itself out and while 245 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Rourke got himself back to to where he needed to be, but also 246 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,800 the offense not getting so down on itself that it starts making 247 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,880 silly mistakes, which has always been what's happened with IU 248 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,720 football. Like even in the good years, 249 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,640 when things start to go wrong, it's like the whole thing just 250 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,840 starts to fall apart. And I think we talked about this 251 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,080 a little bit after the UCLA game as well. 252 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,240 But it feels like Signeti and Brian Haynes and Mike Shanahan 253 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,160 and Tina Ciceri, like this whole group has instilled this level 254 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,560 of calm and perspective in the way that team operates where 255 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:44,760 they just don't freak out. And look, there are programs 256 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,240 that do that on a regular basis and have for years. 257 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,440 It's not, it's not necessarily a Unicorn kind of thing, but it 258 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,080 does feel so unusual, given how up and down IU football's been 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,280 for as long as we can remember, to have this type of a game 260 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,040 start the way that it did, go the way that it did, and have IU 261 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,880 come away not just with a victory, but with a decisive 262 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,880 victory. I think that like a 99% post 263 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,680 game win percentage that is. It's rarefied air for IU 264 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,760 football in general. It feels like an undiscovered 265 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,600 country for this program at this point. 266 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,920 It's something you and I have been talking about all season 267 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,640 because we're lifelong IU football fans. 268 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,240 We have that history of like, we're waiting. 269 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,280 We keep saying, waiting for the other shoe to drop, for the 270 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,520 anvil to fall. Like, all right, here's the 271 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,400 moment where we fall apart. And, you know, thinking about 272 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,200 this in the drive home from the game, they were talking about, 273 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,640 you know, just the the influx of JMU players. 274 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,080 And it got me thinking, it's not the best comp because these 275 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,960 teams both won titles. But like, you think of the the 276 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,320 early 2000s Red Sox, they had, you know, those teams had so 277 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,200 much built up and a lot of those teams, you know, the the Boston 278 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,400 fan base would get so, you know, pressured, pressured, pressured. 279 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,720 And obviously there were good teams, but it's like you had 280 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,080 just a bunch of guys like Kevin Millar and Johnny Damon who just 281 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,640 didn't care. It's like there's dudes who just 282 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,960 go out there and play. And you know, Manny Ramirez is 283 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,200 like an ultimate, just like he didn't get the pressure because 284 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,120 he was just afheim didn't know where he was playing. 285 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,840 You think of the Cubs, like there's a ton of pressure on the 286 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Cubs. And then you get this team of 287 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,000 like, you know, Rizzo and just a bunch of guys were like, hey, 288 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,640 man, like, who cares? Like you have a very kind of 289 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,600 unconventional manager and you know, this can happen. 290 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,760 You can have a bunch of people come in and I'm thinking of the 291 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,000 JMU players and just the change of culture where it's like it, 292 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,520 it just they don't buy into that old IU. 293 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Here comes the anvil. And it's like they're so just 294 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,920 from a different mindset and don't, it doesn't even phase 295 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,520 them and doesn't even pick up on it. 296 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,160 And, you know, maybe it's just the guys like you and me who are 297 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,880 just the ones thinking of it and the, the the team and the 298 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,520 students are just like, Hey, we've only been here for 18 299 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,440 months. Like, I don't know what you're 300 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,280 talking about this team sucking. It's like, you know, four years 301 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,800 ago we were ranked in the top 10 should be. 302 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,040 And so I, I was thinking about those, the Red Sox and the Cubs 303 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,400 as kind of somewhat, you know, analogs of this where it's just, 304 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 you get a bunch of guys who are just like, hey, man, we're not 305 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,400 even going to engage in that nonsense. 306 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,600 Right. Well, look, a lot of it is 307 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,440 program mindset, and we've talked a lot about how, you 308 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,640 know, Kevin Wilson's teams often times like they were great play 309 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,760 designs. It was a really intelligent 310 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,120 approach from a coaching perspective in terms of straight 311 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,040 X's and O's. But that team really seemed to 312 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,160 struggle with consistency. And a lot of that felt like it 313 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,280 could be attributed to leadership in the way that the 314 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,240 way that the team was coached and managed Allen's teams when 315 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,920 they accomplished great things, there was generally a lot of 316 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,480 emotion involved, except for that 2019 season when the entire 317 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,760 Alabama coaching staff was in charge. 318 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,240 And, and, and you could see there, it's like, wow, there's 319 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,400 some great tactical stuff, but you think about like. 320 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,680 We also had a top ten quarterback, NFL quarterback, 321 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,360 yeah. We're part of the season, yes. 322 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:46,880 But you know, but the point is like, you know, those, it's wild 323 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,320 to think about. Yeah, those approaches, you 324 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,760 know, I think both of those approaches were limited. 325 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,760 And I'll note that, like IU and what they're doing right now, 326 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:00,200 they're doing it with a talent level that is probably less than 327 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,200 either of those teams had in terms of like recruiting 328 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,680 rankings and things like that. And you mentioned all the JMU 329 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,320 transfers, but it's also all of these kind of mid tier transfers 330 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,280 from Power 5 schools. I'm just fascinated again week 331 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,920 after week and I think even more so after this game, about how 332 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,720 this coaching staff has managed to bring all of these different 333 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,280 folks together, get them on the same page and have them not 334 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 panic when things don't go their way 'cause it includes players 335 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,960 that were on the team last year for Indiana who did tend to 336 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,480 panic when things didn't go their way. 337 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,040 That that's. The guys to pick different roles 338 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,400 like he of Donovan McCauley, I think played one snap that the 339 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,840 entire game and he called a touchdown and he looks super. 340 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,280 I mean, obviously everyone's happy when they score a 341 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,400 touchdown, but it's like getting guys to play their roles where 342 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,000 Donovan McAuley was a big pick up this offseason and could have 343 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,200 come in this year with like, hey, man, you needed me. 344 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Like I was getting big offers like this ain't good enough. 345 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,680 We're not there day-to-day. But he he had one play, seemed 346 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,680 very happy to have his like, knew his role. 347 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,040 And that is the sign of a very functional football team where 348 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,359 you have guys playing different roles and maybe what they 349 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,400 thought, but being very, you know, playing them at a very 350 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,400 high level and being happy to play those roles. 351 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,839 Yeah, I mean, I just keep coming back to the turnover mark and, 352 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:19,960 and how impressive it was. I mean, Matt Blaska, who's, you 353 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,319 know, an extended member of the Crimson cast mod family, noted. 354 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,359 I've watched a lot of bad football in my life. 355 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,640 I can't recall A-Team being -4 in turnovers and never really 356 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,560 feeling like they were in danger of losing. 357 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,480 And, and it really did feel that way. 358 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,280 I mean, there were moments where you expected maybe it would go 359 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,440 downhill just based upon history, but then Indiana would 360 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,600 go back out and almost immediately correct course and 361 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,680 figure out a way to bring things back to a where it at least it 362 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,240 looked neutral in. What something we've talked 363 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,320 about in this podcast ad nauseam for years is it always felt like 364 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,120 IU has had this problem where they would get one side of the 365 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,320 ball humming. It's like, all right, we got 366 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,640 offense going and then defense would just completely crap out. 367 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,720 And it's like they get the defense set up and then offense 368 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,680 would go 3 and out, three and out or fumble or punt. 369 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,040 You know, it was noted a lot in the post game on all four of 370 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,960 those turnovers, Maryland went three and out and the one they 371 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,320 didn't, they went four and out. Like our defense immediately 372 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,880 locked in and stepped up when they had to. 373 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,840 And it's like they're working together, which is really nice 374 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,600 to see. And obviously you love a three 375 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,120 and out every single time. That's not going to obviously 376 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:29,960 happen every single game in the Big 10. 377 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,200 But you can see it's like, all right, they ratcheted up. 378 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,680 It's like, all right, we know that, hey, we got to pick up the 379 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,000 other side and now is the time we got to do that and it it 380 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,720 didn't in previous years, that doesn't happen. 381 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,480 Like that's where both sides kind of system failure. 382 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,120 That was really nice to see. Like all right, man, our offense 383 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:49,160 is not doing well. Our defense is going to really 384 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,800 lock in and three and out and get you another shot at it. 385 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:56,000 I think to me as I look back on the game, there were a bunch of 386 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,760 really key sequences in the game. 387 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,920 But to me the the the key sequence happens, you know, so 388 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:06,200 you know, Indiana takes the 14 to 7 lead at halftime. 389 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Those are really, really important drive where, you know, 390 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,280 Indiana 3 plays, 63 yards and you know, essentially they, they 391 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,720 jump start their offense to the point where they're able to go 392 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,160 out and take a 14-7 lead. And it was kind of perfectly set 393 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,840 up, I think for IU to be able to go in and the coaches could say, 394 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,280 well, look, we're leading, but we played about as bad as we 395 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,320 could play. And then you look at the 396 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,720 sequence that happens as they come out of halftime, Maryland 397 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,320 gets their best drive of the whole game, A10 play, 75 yard 398 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,560 drive. They look like they just carved 399 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,800 right through the IU defense. They tie it up at 14th. 400 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,440 Indiana comes back, seven play, 75 yard drive, takes 2 minutes 401 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,200 and 21 seconds. Now they're back up by 7. 402 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,560 Then Maryland has the the play where they get the block from 403 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,960 the umpire on the very next drive. 404 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,760 One play, 75 yards, 10 seconds, it's 2121. 405 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,200 And you're just kind of like, uh oh. 406 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Maryland looks like it's going to be able to match Indiana 407 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,040 punch for punch in the second-half. 408 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240 But then. This next sequence is what I'm 409 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,720 getting at Indiana. I think I'd forgotten this. 410 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,000 They go out and they 3 and out on the next drive, 3 plays, 4 411 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,160 yards, they have to punt. But then the defense comes out 412 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,920 and they 3 and out Maryland. Now, some of that had to do 413 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,800 with, you know, there was even an offsides there like, you 414 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,520 know, Indiana had a a self-inflicted penalty, but 415 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,960 they're able to force Maryland and do a mistake. 416 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,840 They have to punt Indiana. Three and out with negative. 5 417 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,160 yards, Yeah. So then Indiana comes back out. 418 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,640 Nine play, 63 yards, touchdown. Then Maryland down 7, three and 419 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,880 out. They have to punt. 420 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,640 Indiana 5 play, 65 yards, touchdown. 421 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,880 Maryland 12 place, 45 yards, Turnover on downs. 422 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,640 Even with Indiana fumbling on the next drive as they're 423 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,320 driving in, they're able to again force Maryland out on 424 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,000 downs on the next drive and by. And then they score a touchdown 425 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,400 and the game is essentially over at 42 to 21. 426 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,440 That sequence right there. Like it's almost like Indiana 427 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,280 was like lying in wait, waiting for everything to kind of 428 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,400 consolidate at the same time and at the same point. 429 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,080 And suddenly both the offense and defense are playing their 430 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,480 best ball at the same time in the game, you know, and 431 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,880 Maryland, I think, deserves a lot of credit. 432 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,680 That was the best defense Indiana has played so far. 433 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,920 That was an aggressive, physical defense. 434 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,840 They made it very difficult for Indiana to run, and it showed in 435 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,920 Indiana's post game EPA on the running side. 436 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,080 But Indiana did a nice job of essentially taking what Maryland 437 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,040 gave them. And once they settled down 438 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,680 offensively, figuring out how to take advantage in the passing 439 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,080 game and on the defensive side, the aggression with which 440 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Indiana was playing defense and the way they made it difficult 441 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,800 on most drives, not every single one, but on most drives for 442 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800 Maryland to do what they wanted to do was just really 443 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,840 impressive. And and again, there's just like 444 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,240 a resiliency with this team and the way that they approach 445 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,840 things that I think is encapsulated in that sequence 446 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,120 there in the third quarter heading over into the fourth 447 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,960 quarter. You know, it's one thing to do 448 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,720 that early in the game. That's what they did against 449 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,280 UCLA. To do that, that late in the 450 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,160 game in a, in not ideal weather conditions against an opponent 451 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,480 that has looked more or less equal to you in most phases 452 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,720 throughout the course of the game up to that point, that's 453 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,920 really special. Scott Like I I have a real hard 454 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,960 time remembering a lot of games where Indiana did something like 455 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,000 that over the course of a third and fourth quarter against a 456 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680 team like Maryland. Yeah, well, I preparing for 457 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,080 this, I also wrote down my key sequence and that was it. 458 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,680 So I'm going to I'm going to let you just let that not going to 459 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,080 try and step on perfection. So I completely agree with you, 460 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080 but I, I, I will say this that, you know, you're right. 461 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,560 It happened a little earlier in the UCLA game, but it kind of 462 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800 happened based on UCLA just not being ready. 463 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,160 Like it's just, it's 14. Nothing in that UCLA game before 464 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,360 you know it. But as we talked about, you 465 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:51,280 know, after half time again, third quarter, it's when UCLA 466 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,400 scored that touchdown and it wasn't as tight. 467 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,040 This was a tied game. But IU did the same thing in 468 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760 that UCLA game where, you know, they, they score, they hold UCLA 469 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,400 to two long drives like, you know, field goal, field goal, IU 470 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,480 score, score. And then it's like it's 471 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,120 completely blown up, blown out. And this is kind of becoming the 472 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,800 MO of this team, which is awesome of like we're going to 473 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,120 play at a certain level, but then almost be like a a cobra 474 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,120 that'll strike. And like at some point we are 475 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,440 going to just constrict on defense and come at you on 476 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,200 offense. And like there's going to be 477 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240 this 8 minute stretch where we're going to just take win the 478 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,320 game. And they did it in the UCLA game 479 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,880 twice and they did it in this Maryland game in that in that 480 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,480 sequence you just talked about. And it is really special to be 481 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,320 like, you know, there there was that moment when Maryland got 482 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,400 that long score to make it 21 all where I'm like, man, like 483 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,840 this is going to be a nail biter. 484 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,960 Like it's going to be fun. But I just, it's going to be. 485 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,920 And then at the end of the game, I'm like, wow, we're like, we 486 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,600 have 5 minutes to go. We have this thing in the bag. 487 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Like it's just how quickly you go from 1:00 to the other is, is 488 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,760 really amazing. But it's also, I think a 489 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,240 testament to just what this the mentality and the psyche of this 490 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,200 team where they don't get too high and they definitely don't 491 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320 get too low. You know, you have to give it up 492 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,040 to the offense and Curtis Rourke, they started out awful 493 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,360 and they just did. And and Rourke was still kind of 494 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:09,480 missing guys throughout the game. 495 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,640 Like he did not have a good game, but he he turned it. 496 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,520 What he did have was a great game and that he was able to 497 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,360 realize like, all right, and it's still not over. 498 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,800 Like I don't need to freak out. And they were able to pull 499 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,680 things together. And what I thought was really 500 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,720 cool was they didn't just abandoned the pass. 501 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,960 You know, Rourke wasn't having a great day through two 502 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,360 interceptions. Some other coaches might be 503 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,920 like, we just got to run the ball, like, all right, we're 504 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,840 just done throwing. It's like they didn't do that. 505 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,440 And they didn't even stop throwing long. 506 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,240 Like they they really were just like, hey, this is our game 507 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,840 plan. And it felt like he just told 508 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,160 Rourke, like, you're good, like we're still going to run it. 509 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,160 You're fine. And it it it's also amazing, I 510 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,560 think of that Donovan McCauley play. 511 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,280 You know, you mentioned how there were great play designs in 512 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,880 the Wilson era. There's some great play designs 513 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,200 here because like there are guys wide open all. 514 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Over the field, a lot of times it's unbelievable how open 515 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,440 they're able to get guys with these play calls. 516 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Taylor Lehman from Bite Sized Bison sent me a. 517 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,600 You you said it first. You win the you win the bet this 518 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,520 week. He, he sent me a a little note 519 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,040 earlier this morning. Indiana owns the top four wide 520 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,960 receivers in EPA per target in the whole conference. 521 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,120 That is a combination of great play calling, great play design 522 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,360 and also just having some dudes. I mean, one of the things that 523 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,560 I've found so amazing, you mentioned Mccully, who, you 524 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,760 know, one catch for a touchdown, you'll take that. 525 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Mccully's almost become like a a luxury item that you use in 526 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,080 particular situations and you think about like it's it's such 527 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,800 a, a diverse and talented wide receiver room. 528 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,200 But there's two that are clearly separating themselves from the 529 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,000 pack right now. One of them is Elijah Serrat, 530 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080 and the other one is Omar Cooper Junior. 531 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,200 You know, both of those guys are just such fascinating receivers. 532 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,600 You know, Serrat is just a, it's hard to explain because he's 533 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240 fast, but he's also he's he's sizable. 534 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,880 You know, he's a guy who you feel comfortable with running a 535 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560 pattern on because he can get open, he can move in the open 536 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,680 field. Omar Cooper's really coming into 537 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200 his own. But to be able to have Mccully 538 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 out there, to be able to have Miles Price or Miles Cross, you 539 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,120 know, you get all these different change ups with these 540 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,640 different players. Deshawn Wilson would also like 541 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,360 I'm sorry, Williams, like absolutely, you know, so it's 542 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,680 the the idea of. This team is well disciplined, 543 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,080 but they also have great play calling and even and I think 544 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,320 defense the same thing like what you're seeing on defense, the 545 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,400 amount of penetration that IU was able to get against 546 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,920 Maryland. You, you think about it and it's 547 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,520 like the, the one touchdown that Maryland scored in the first 548 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,040 half was entirely just the product of a mistake by Indiana 549 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,320 because prior to that they had Maryland at like what, 2nd and 550 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,120 31 or something like that because of all of the pressure 551 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,040 that they were getting. That, you know, the, the big 552 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720 question mark and the big concern most people have is the 553 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,440 secondary at this point with IU, but having a front seven that 554 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,600 can put the kind of pressure on that this Indiana team is able 555 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160 to. I like the fact that that is a 556 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,200 possibility that you can move forward on. 557 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,160 And what I mean by that is like IU is probably not at the point 558 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,080 yet where you can say, Hey, they're going to be great in all 559 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,800 phases of the defense. And certainly, I think there's 560 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,840 going to be teams that are really, really focus on the 561 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600 passing game to try to take advantage of some of the 562 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560 potential problems that Indiana might have in the secondary. 563 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,120 But realistically speaking, Indiana's ability to get 564 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,400 pressure to bottle up the run, you know, these are things that 565 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240 are likely to travel really well over the course of the season. 566 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,960 And I'm just really impressed with, again, how this coaching 567 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,760 staff has been able to not just use the talent that they've got 568 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,440 effectively, but also the overall design that they've had. 569 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,680 And most of the the game planning they've had against all 570 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,000 of their opponents so far has been very, very difficult for 571 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,840 their opponents to deal with. You know, Scott, somebody noted 572 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840 this in the post game and I forget who it was. 573 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,400 Like Indiana so far this season, like the team that's held them 574 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,600 on offense to the fewest points is FIU. 575 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,520 And that was the first game of the season. 576 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,000 It was a game where Indiana was clearly not showing a lot of 577 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,600 their hand, but was also trying to figure out some rhythm 578 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,960 things. And I, yeah, I think we came out 579 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,120 of that FIU game thinking, well, that's not going to be good 580 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,000 enough. This season. 581 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,080 They have gotten progressively better. 582 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,520 I think if you factor in competition level every game in 583 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,040 terms of how they're running plays on on offense and the way 584 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,880 that their defense has been able to move around and figure out 585 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,840 how to find angles for penetration to try to both 586 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,720 disrupt the passing game and the running game. 587 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,120 It's just a really exciting Stew of things that we've seen so 588 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520 far. And if you were waiting or if 589 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080 you were thinking, well, gosh, they just haven't played against 590 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,840 very good competition. You can't say Maryland wasn't 591 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,800 good competition. I mean, Maryland was, I think 592 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880 top 35 or Top 40 in S&P plus coming in. 593 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Yes, this was a home game, but that's a that's a Maryland team 594 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,880 that is, is got a lot of talent. Is, is a team that, you know, I, 595 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,440 I as much talk about Tango Vailoa leaving and Billy Edwards 596 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,560 coming in as quarterback. He looked like a really good 597 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,160 quarterback for them. I think they're going to have a 598 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,080 lot of success with him and I think that that's a a Maryland 599 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320 team that'll spring an upset or two down the stretch this 600 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280 season. Indiana doing what they did 601 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520 against that Maryland team and pulling away like that, it's 602 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,720 really a testament to the scouting and the longevity that 603 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,760 the game plan has for Indiana right now. 604 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880 And I think that's something that travels as well as you go 605 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,520 through the rest of the schedule for IU. 606 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,920 So the first thing is I know Taylor listens to the podcast 607 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,400 Taylor sent send me some info Monday morning before the pod, 608 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080 like just you're feeding GAIL and all this great stuff like 609 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,240 Hook, hook a brother up like once every three. 610 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,840 I expect something Taylor calling you out, bro. 611 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,520 I expect some kind of great nugget. 612 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Whatever, whatever he puts on the table. 613 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960 I'll I'll match an added dollar. OK, just just to let you know, 614 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 I'm gonna add upland wheat. I'm gonna add 1 upland cream and 615 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,160 Crimson wheat and maybe a an unmarked home field promo code. 616 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,880 No, the the two things I will say like on the defensive side, 617 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,440 you are right. The secondary, it is something 618 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,400 that has to be and we're not gonna become a top, you know, 1 619 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,360 defense in the Big 10 overnight. But you're right about the 620 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120 pressure in that. In previous years, our secondary 621 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,960 was a problem, but we also couldn't pressure the 622 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,880 quarterback. So then the quarterback just had 623 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960 all the day and all the time in the world to then pick apart 624 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600 that secondary. I think it's, you know, the fact 625 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160 that we're able to pressure the quarterback the way that we are 626 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280 and that frontline is doing as well as it is. 627 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,680 That kind of helps some of the secondary. 628 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320 And you know, this is where you have to give the coaching staff 629 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,600 credit. You know, they probably 630 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,040 understand that like, all right, we've got to focus more on 631 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,000 schemes that provide more pressure because we know our 632 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,760 secondary can't, you know, cover as well as we want. 633 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,920 So that's where we got to put that pressure to the offensive 634 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,640 side. What, what kind of I thought 635 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,240 about on the on the way home as well was, you know, what the 636 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,440 first couple of games you and I were talking about the rushing 637 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,200 and how good the rushing attack is. 638 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880 And we kept saying, you know, it looks like this team is is 639 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,160 holding a lot of things back. And they are. 640 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,600 But they like, you know, we, we had 359 passing yards in the 641 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,760 game against Maryland, 151 rushing yards. 642 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,640 You know, when they needed plays, they definitely went to 643 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,880 the pass. But GAIL and this is still a 644 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,640 rushing offense after five games that is averaging 5.2 yards a a 645 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,880 a rush every single time they do a rushing play. 646 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,440 It's it's still like it in a weird way. 647 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,400 You still have this great running game kind of on the back 648 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880 and we saw it against UCLA. It's obviously what other teams 649 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400 are scouting because they came in trying to to all out stop the 650 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,240 run and we're able to carve them up from with the passing. 651 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,120 And as you know, guys are getting wide open. 652 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,960 It makes you wonder as you go along this season, this is kind 653 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,960 of into the, you know, we're we're playing chess now. 654 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,080 Are are other teams going to start stopping trying to stop 655 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560 the passing game, which will open our run back up? 656 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,120 And that's something where it's like, I don't think I've ever 657 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,080 even in our best days, remembered an IU team where it's 658 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,200 like we have both things humming even in the 2020 seasons. 659 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,280 Like, all right, this is this is a lot on Pennex. 660 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,880 Like there's a lot of it, you know, play calling on Pennex 661 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040 here, you know, in the in the Wilson area, it was like a lot 662 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,040 on the run. It was all Tevin Coleman and run 663 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,120 guys. I don't ever remember a team 664 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440 where it's like if they start stopping the pass, we have a 665 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,720 really good running attack. If they start stopping the run, 666 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,760 we have a really good passing attack. 667 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,760 It it it, it's Galen. It's amazing. 668 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,360 We're here where we were nine months. 669 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,400 It is unbelievable that we're here where we where we were nine 670 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,120 months ago. Looking at some of the the 671 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,360 standout statistical performers, you know, as much as Curtis Work 672 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,120 got a little bit of criticism for two interceptions early on, 673 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,520 still finished 22 at 33359 yards, 3 touchdowns. 674 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,040 I mean, it's just like, that's wild. 675 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,720 It really is. You know, Indiana with again, 676 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,520 this, this running back broom, this 3 headed beast that they 677 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320 have. It was Tyson Lawton's day in 678 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,840 terms of the yardage. 19 carries, 93 yards. 679 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Justice Ellison 12 carries, 51 yards. 680 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,360 Both of those guys have a touchdown and then you look at 681 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,360 the receiving room, we mentioned Sarat 7 catches, 128 yards and a 682 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,360 touchdown. Omar Cooper Junior, 4 catches, 683 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,480 83 yards and a touchdown. And even some great individual 684 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,240 moments that, you know, maybe there weren't huge statistical 685 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,560 outlays, but we mentioned the Donovan Mccully touchdown. 686 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,280 That kind of sealed things for IU. 687 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Zac Horton with an incredible catch on the goal line. 688 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,440 But you know, Horton did so much great work with is blocking 689 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,200 throughout the course of the game is run blocking. 690 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480 We talked about that last week. Like he is really, really 691 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,680 impressive in terms of his ability to contribute in both 692 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,240 phases of the game. Another game where Aiden Fisher 693 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,640 leads the team in tackles, 12 tackles, five of those solo. 694 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360 D Angelo Pons coming back playing a full game after being 695 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,000 suspended for the first half against Charlotte, 10 tackles, 696 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,480 seven of those solo. You know, just again, a a 697 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,080 rotating collection of the defense going in there and 698 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,600 performing when they need to. It was really exciting watching 699 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080 Indiana go ahead. What? 700 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,159 Special teams punt block. Yeah, I was going to. 701 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,960 That was exactly where I was going, like it was no, no, it's 702 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,080 fine. Like it was, it was exciting 703 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,320 seeing Indiana special teams having to do something for a 704 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,159 change. You know, they didn't have to 705 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,320 kick a field goal in this game, but James Evans, 4 punts, 47 706 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,480 yard per per punt average, including a 58 yard long punt 707 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,080 and two punts inside the 20. And then of course, you 708 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,239 mentioned the punt block and really Indiana was pretty good 709 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,000 in the return game as well. I mean, Miles Price had three 710 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,480 punt returns. That was, you know, the old 10.7 711 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,199 average on those. You'll take that most of the 712 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,440 time. Again, just a really, really 713 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,719 good collective effort by this Indiana team. 714 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,159 And, you know, look, ultimately they, you know, they got a 715 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,920 little bit fortunate in that they, you know, there were 716 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,120 problems with Ty Felton. I think he went out with a 717 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,720 concussion or something like that earlier on in the game. 718 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,080 He only ended up with five catches for 38 yards to say 719 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600 only. But they really contained him 720 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,320 well and they kept Maryland from kind of breaking out. 721 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120 In general. They they hold Maryland to 3.7 722 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,880 yards per rush. Maryland deserves a lot of 723 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600 credit because they held Indiana to 3.6 yards per rush. 724 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520 But the difference is Indiana scored three times on the ground 725 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,840 and whereas Maryland only was able to go for 289 yards passing 726 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,720 with 11 yards per attempt, Indy, sorry, 11 yards per completion, 727 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:36,400 sorry, Indiana, 359 yards through the passing game, 16.3 728 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,400 yards per completion and three touchdowns. 729 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,760 So, you know, looking at the numbers and looking at the 730 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,800 statistics, it's really amazing. I mean, Curtis Rourke is, is 731 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,720 clearly the person who is the the key to the offense in terms 732 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,280 of the distributions. But the fact that the supporting 733 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,920 cast both keeps rotating in, in terms of who's making 734 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,320 contributions. But also you're starting to see 735 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,240 some patterns settle in where Sarat and Cooper are the go to 736 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,320 kind of lead receivers. But you've got these other 737 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,560 receivers that Rourke's been able to sprinkle in the fact 738 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,880 that the running backroom seems so democratically oriented in 739 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,840 that they are the contributions are coming from all over the 740 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,040 place. It just feels like Indiana's in 741 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,880 a really good spot right now in terms of having come together 742 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160 and figured out how they're supposed to perform as a team. 743 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,880 And it you mentioned like the the blue sky aspects when we 744 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,040 talked last week about this middle portion of the schedule, 745 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,400 Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska, Washington, Michigan 746 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,000 State. And I guess maybe you could 747 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,160 throw Michigan in now given their statistical performances. 748 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000 They only win by three at home versus Minnesota yesterday. 749 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,640 Like all of these games, all all all of them. 750 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:53,280 Now all the remainders. Indiana is favored at least via 751 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,080 FPI, which means they'll be almost certainly favored on the 752 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,360 betting line. And when you think about the 753 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960 fact that we looked at the the statistical analysis and it said 754 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,080 Maryland was probably going to be the toughest game out of 755 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,120 those games to win this decisively and to feel like you 756 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,640 probably should have won by, you know, you should have put 55 or 757 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,880 60 points up on the board. Signetti even mentioned that in 758 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,200 his post game comments. You know, you're not trying to 759 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,400 get greedy, but it's like Indiana underperformed in terms 760 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,280 of execution, overperformed in terms of statistical analysis, 761 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Probably should have won by more. 762 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,520 As much as we try to hold ourselves back, Scott, it really 763 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,960 is one of those things where you're looking at this team and 764 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,800 looking the road in front. If they can execute at this 765 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,320 level, if they can maintain this consistency, the sky does really 766 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,440 feel like it's kind of the limit for this IU team. 767 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,440 And that just, it feels like I'm going to get punished for saying 768 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,440 that by some cosmic force. But it does. 769 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000 It does feel like the trajectory is about as positive as it could 770 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,560 be at this point. Like, I don't know how Indiana 771 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,640 would have played this first five games any better than what 772 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,360 they've played them up to this point. 773 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,760 Agreed on all of that. You know, I'll, I'll kind of 774 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,520 just continue on that same theme. 775 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560 You know, this game started in kind of the way that I I used to 776 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,080 joke. It's like this is how I would 777 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,800 when I was playing the you know, I don't do it as much. 778 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,160 But when I was younger playing NCAA Football, it's like this 779 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,720 would be the start where it's just like I'm restarting the 780 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,240 game, like I'm just turning off the play, turn off my 781 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,560 PlayStation, taking the disc out, putting it back in and just 782 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,160 like we're restarting. That's just that was the 783 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600 computer wanting me to lose. That's the way this game 784 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,120 started. And to your point, you know, 785 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,280 when you look forward, you know, the other games, you're playing 786 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,560 a road game at Northwestern, which is a very funky stadium. 787 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,320 It's not a traditionally tough Rd. environment. 788 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,200 The other Rd. game is at Michigan State after they're 789 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,160 going to have gone through a brutal stretch. 790 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,640 I think they play like two or three more. 791 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,200 Like they could be on A5 game losing streak where that's a 792 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,080 tough place to play. But they could just have all of 793 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,880 their soul ripped out by that point. 794 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,200 And then the other three games are at home, Nebraska, 795 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,800 Washington and Michigan. And you know, again, this is 796 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,560 also this is probably the worst weather you could assume for a 797 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,080 game like this. And so, you know, the crowds 798 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,360 will be this will have an even better home field advantage for 799 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,880 those three future games than you had here. 800 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,160 Everything was conspiring for Indiana to lose this game. 801 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,440 And it's not just that we could have won by more. 802 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,440 We played bad. I mean, we just didn't play 803 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,480 great for, I don't say long stretches, but for stretches of 804 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,120 this game. And we still won by 14. 805 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,040 Galen it's it's it's wild. And I'm I'm with you like it is 806 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,840 the idea of 10 and O going into that Michigan game. 807 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,000 It it's almost. Heresy to say as a pot, like I'm 808 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,360 just waiting for us to be like shut down as a podcast. 809 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,400 I mean, well, no, your broadcasting board actually shut 810 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,360 down on you before we started the podcast, so maybe we've 811 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,880 already seen this. I just need to know. 812 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,160 Yeah, like Spotify is like doing the transcript. 813 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,760 It's like I you 1010 and O like like that's not, but it's it's 814 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,600 like they any other team would look at this and just be like 815 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880 that makes like that's the way it should go and that's the way 816 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000 it it's going to go. It's it's wild. 817 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:02,440 Here's the thing, I am so tired of not enjoying my football team 818 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,280 because of some feeling like I'm not supposed to be able to, or 819 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,840 that I'm supposed to get like an anvil supposed to drop on my 820 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,560 head while I'm walking down the sidewalk. 821 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:17,160 It's it's OK to just be giddy. If you look around the country, 822 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,520 football team fan bases do not constrain themselves when their 823 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,720 teams are playing well. You apologize afterwards. 824 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,160 You act braggadocious while it's happening. 825 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,280 It's OK. We can do that as a group. 826 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,760 Let's work on this together. Let's work on just being 827 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,960 ridiculously optimistic. I'm, it's funny, like even after 828 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,760 the game yesterday, there were still people that were making 829 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640 comments on social media like, well, I've seen stuff like this 830 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,640 before. And it's like, well, first of 831 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,280 all, no, you have not. You have not seen Indiana play 832 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560 at this level before. You have, I'm sorry. 833 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,680 Even if you were alive for 67, Indiana was not this dominant in 834 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,040 1967 through their first five games. 835 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,520 You have, you have not seen these performances by an Indiana 836 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,400 football team before. And I understand the idea that 837 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,840 it could all fall apart. We almost saw it fall apart in 838 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,800 the first half versus Maryland, but it it it's OK to be 839 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,800 irrationally optimistic about your college football team. 840 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,760 Indiana right now is one of the best stories in college 841 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,320 football. They're getting some of the best 842 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,760 performances from a variety of players in college football, not 843 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,200 just their quarterback, not just their star on defense, but their 844 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,040 wide receivers. The offensive line play has been 845 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,120 understatedly really, really good all season. 846 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,200 Indiana over the last four games has scored a a ridiculous number 847 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,040 of points. You know, I cannot emphasize 848 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,720 this enough. Indiana on the season has scored 849 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:42,880 31774252 and 42 points. Those are, as you would often 850 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880 say, Scott, those are video game numbers. 851 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,320 Those are things that we have not seen Indiana do to start a 852 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,600 season and and their game. I think we scored more 853 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,760 touchdowns than every other team except for Texas. 854 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120 And I'll note Indiana in the five games they played has 855 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,680 allowed seven points, three points, 13 points, 14 points and 856 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,280 28 points in a rainstorm. Essentially. 857 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,560 It wasn't really a rainstorm, but it rained old game after 858 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,240 their offense gave up four turnovers. 859 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,080 They only allowed 28 points in a game against a live Big 10 team 860 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,880 that's probably going to go to a bowl game at the end of the 861 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,160 season. So it's OK to be optimistic. 862 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,200 It's OK to be having fun with this. 863 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,560 And I understand where people are hesitant to do so. 864 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,720 But I would say just we may never get a season like this in 865 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,560 in the next 20 years. Like sometimes things just 866 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,280 cosmically happen and and things come together. 867 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,760 And one of the comments I keep seeing from people who are not 868 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,320 IU fans is like, wow, you guys seem to have caught lightning in 869 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640 a bottle. And that is exactly how it feels 870 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,080 to me. It feels like it. 871 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160 It's different than even 2019, which was, you know, a great 872 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,680 season by any stretch of the imagination. 873 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,320 It was a season where I felt like a bunch of things came 874 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,960 together. That came together pretty slow. 875 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,320 It really wasn't until the end of October that you felt like 876 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,960 Indiana had really come together as a team. 877 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,800 It feels like they've come together as a team right now. 878 00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,040 It feels like they're not satisfied even with the good 879 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,400 performances they put in. Just embrace this. 880 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800 These feelings don't come around that often and they don't often 881 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,080 last. Like sometimes you only get 882 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,400 these feelings for a month, but it ending at some point is not a 883 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560 valid excuse for not feeling the feelings in the first place. 884 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,160 I'm going to quote you on on X, I'm just going to read this out 885 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,560 because it's it's it was perfect. 886 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,800 This is Galen. That was probably one of the 887 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,160 most fun IU football games I've ever attended. 888 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,000 The weather, the vibe, the way the team played, the crowd 889 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,280 getting further and further into it as the game went along. 890 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,760 Just perfect. I like I just want to end the 891 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,920 pod on that. Like that was it's, it's so well 892 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,720 said. I stayed for the my my wife, my 893 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:39,600 two kids. We we were there, stayed for the 894 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,360 entire game. And I completely agree with you 895 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960 for those who were there and there was I mean a lot of people 896 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,560 were there. A lot of people stayed. 897 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,960 I said it multiple times and I, I keep like, if you were there, 898 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,840 it's like, First off, I think we all like experience something 899 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,920 very cool. But also it's like I kept 900 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,600 telling my wife, like it feels like something is changing like 901 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,840 this just feels different. Like the way the team is 902 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,920 playing, the way the crowd is reacting. 903 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,360 I do have a thought on the crowd, but the way the crowd is 904 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,040 reacting, the way the students started chanting, like, you 905 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,240 know, we took like, who's your daddy? 906 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,800 It's like, all right, like we'll take that, we'll own it like and 907 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,080 throw it back on you. I'm like, that's great. 908 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,680 Like the, the students were electric. 909 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:19,040 Like if they were fired up, the, the all the rest of the fans 910 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,480 were fired up. I mean, it was loud. 911 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,400 People who were there stayed and you, you just like, it's like 912 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,760 this is like being forged in the fire almost. 913 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,520 And I, I just, I, I walked away from that. 914 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,920 Being like this feels way different. 915 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,200 You know, we're, we're walking out of Memorial Stadium. 916 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,120 People are singing the fight song and you're chanting IU. 917 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,200 And it's like this something just nobody lived through 2020. 918 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,400 Unfortunately, nobody was there. So we didn't get to see that. 919 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,440 We all kind of did that obviously do that virtually. 920 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,120 2019, like you said, was a fun season. 921 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,240 I never felt like things are systematically changing on like 922 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,080 this just feels so different and if you were there, I I think 923 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,680 it's hard to walk away being like that felt like every other 924 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,640 IU normal win like there was something really different in 925 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,720 that win. The way the students are are 926 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,920 galvanizing around this, that the letter Signetti sent to the 927 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,200 students both the night before and the day after, like I, I 928 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,360 echo everything you said and I will just come back to like 929 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,960 something is changing and something is really happening 930 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,040 here. Does that mean we're going to 931 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,120 become the best team ever? No. 932 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,320 Does that mean we're going to be undefeated? 933 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,680 No. But like it, it feels like this 934 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,760 is the change we've been looking for for. 935 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Years, but that was a unbelievable football 936 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,160 experience. It was awesome. 937 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,040 Yeah, I I got a little teary eyed towards the end of it a 938 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,760 couple of times, which sounds goofy, but it's true. 939 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,320 I mean, it was like the after the Mccully touchdown where you 940 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,320 knew the game was essentially over and, and just the, the, 941 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,120 the, the loudness of the crowd and the joy in the stadium and 942 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,080 the fun that people were having. It just was like, this is what 943 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040 you've always wanted Memorial Stadium to feel like. 944 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,800 And it's been very rare that it's felt that way even in big 945 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,840 wins. You know, I mean, everybody 946 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,600 always points back to the Michigan game in 1987, that game 947 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,640 in the rain where Indiana wins 14 to 10. 948 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,440 And that was certainly, whether you were there or whether you've 949 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,880 watched that game on television, like that was a really special 950 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,280 moment. Clearly, there haven't been a 951 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,520 whole lot of games like that in Memorial Stadium where Indiana 952 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,440 played a game that mattered. The people knew mattered. 953 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,240 That was really important to the program, building towards 954 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,960 something where Indiana played well for the, you know, for the 955 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,080 majority of the game and then came away with the victory. 956 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,920 And the crowd was just really fully into it. 957 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,800 You know, I've gone back and looked at prior games. 958 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960 I mean, most of most of the games that I can remember having 959 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,440 the most joy watching with Indiana have been games that 960 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,440 were really close. You know, I mean the Wisconsin 961 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000 game last week last year, that was a that was a fun game. 962 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,760 Indiana won. It was great to beat Wisconsin, 963 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,320 you know, but it was a game that was really touch and go and it 964 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,320 was like you had to, you got to the middle of fourth quarter 965 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,960 like what they might pull this off. 966 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,840 That's not the feeling that I'm talking about in the stadium. 967 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,720 This was a stadium where as you got through that first quarter, 968 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:06,560 like a lot of IU crowds would have gotten backed off of their 969 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,920 marks because of the way that the game was going. 970 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,080 It was almost like it went the opposite direction. 971 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,880 It was largely because like. Started like helping him out and 972 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,280 yeah. But it was also the way the 973 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,480 defense got the, the crowds fired up. 974 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520 And it's the way that the players after making big plays, 975 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,640 were running into the end zone and kind of pumping the crowd 976 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,080 up, particularly the students section. 977 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,080 That moment at the end of the game where the teams come 978 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,120 together as the, the, the, the gun goes off and the, and the, 979 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,560 and the, the players start running over to the students and 980 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,120 start, you know, jumping up in front of them. 981 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,160 Like that's the kind of organic building that you're talking 982 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,040 about where you get people invested. 983 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,160 And we talked about this for so long, Scott, like the, the, the, 984 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,640 as much as I've been a critic of certain aspects of the IU fan 985 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,160 base with football, I've also said over and over again in the 986 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,960 whole 1516 years we've been doing this podcast, it is not 987 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,440 particularly fair to expect fans to show up in a vacuum and be 988 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,920 loud and excited. You have to give them reasons to 989 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,640 be supportive. You have to give them an 990 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680 emotional bond. It's what made IU basketball on 991 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,720 the men's side so successful for so long because you would go to 992 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,160 Assembly Hall and there would be special moments that would 993 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,600 happen even if the overall season didn't necessarily go the 994 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,200 way that you wanted it to at the end. 995 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,960 Often times, though, it did. It's what's made Indiana women's 996 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,800 basketball so successful and so popular among so many people 997 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,080 because you go watch Indiana women's basketball and they 998 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,760 deliver more often than not, especially at home. 999 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,120 This is the kind of game, the kind of performance, the kind of 1000 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,200 emotion that causes people to say, wow, that was incredible 1001 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,320 fun. That was something that I want 1002 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,960 to get more emotionally invested in. 1003 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,240 That is what is going to help build a culture around IU 1004 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:49,960 football. It's not slogans. 1005 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,040 It's not marketing approaches. It's not, oh, we hired this guy, 1006 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,760 so therefore you have to go out doesn't support him. 1007 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,600 It's games like this and performances like this and 1008 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,840 experiences like this that make people say, I cannot wait to go 1009 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,080 back to a Memorial Stadium and cheer this team on again. 1010 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,480 And that was probably that was what may be the most emotional 1011 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,800 because like for those students, you know, and the young alumni, 1012 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,240 like the number of people who after the game said something 1013 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,480 along the lines of I've never experienced anything like that 1014 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,640 before without you football. Now you have. 1015 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,040 And you know, what's exciting to me is that that this team's 1016 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,840 poised and positioned to be able to provide that on more than one 1017 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,920 occasion down the line, especially in this month of 1018 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480 October. You've got two immense games. 1019 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:36,800 You know, you got this Northwestern game, obviously, 1020 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,480 but that's a road game. It's a little bit of a different 1021 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,600 circumstance, but you've got two immense games coming up on the 1022 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,080 home schedule in the middle of October. 1023 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:49,560 Weather's going to be perfect and that the the what Indiana 1024 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,240 was able to build out of this Maryland game, if that can 1025 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:55,160 connect to the Nebraska game and then connect to the Washington 1026 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,760 game, that's where this season could go to a truly special 1027 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,920 level. I am fascinated to see not just 1028 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,800 how it goes on the team side, but how the fans continue to 1029 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,680 react to what this team is doing. 1030 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,240 Agreed, My card stop. Agreed All that the the one 1031 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,600 thing that I was thinking about that is needed. 1032 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,640 This is where it's great with IE football because so much of the 1033 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,800 culture is a blank slate. You know, we went to the Rose 1034 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680 Bowl game we did between the third and fourth quarter. 1035 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,320 They play California by Tupac and they do some cool stuff with 1036 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,720 the lights, like it's a cool feature. 1037 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,480 You go to Assembly Hall, there is, you know, obviously the flag 1038 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,960 time out, the under 8 flag timeout. 1039 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,320 Not that you go there for that, but it's like, you know, you 1040 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,200 have something in the second-half to kind of as a fan 1041 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,920 to kind of, you know, a fun little thing to, you know, 1042 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,320 Easter egg. You know, Wisconsin has jump 1043 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,600 around by House of pain. You know, we tried the flags for 1044 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,320 a while at the Memorial Stadium between the 3rd and the fourth 1045 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,760 quarter. You know, this this year, it's 1046 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,720 like I I they're they're playing. 1047 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,960 We Will Rock you by queen with like a picture of hip rocks. 1048 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,040 Like there's a moment there like you now had like that's a that's 1049 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,280 a spot where now that people are staying and are going to stay 1050 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,720 like you have a good moment there to do something. 1051 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:05,920 And it was kind of funny because like we started the fourth 1052 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,200 quarter. The fans like, you know, 1053 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,520 everyone does this. The four. 1054 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,800 The fans are kind of like whoa, like getting fired, like we got 1055 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,960 it like fourth quarter. And then it's just like, all 1056 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,960 right, here's Queen, We Will Rock you. 1057 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,240 It's like the the the kind of cheering. 1058 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:17,760 Like there's a moment there like there's some, I don't know what 1059 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,160 it is, but we could do something there that becomes a signature, 1060 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,400 something to be done there. And it's not. 1061 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,280 I mean, We Will Rock you by Queen. 1062 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,440 Well, look, I think. These things grow organically. 1063 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,760 You know, we we see these things in other stadiums and they've 1064 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,040 they've evolved over time. And I think there's some trial 1065 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,200 and error involved in it. It's it's tough to do like, you 1066 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,080 know, we're we're watching the Alabama Georgia game last night 1067 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,360 or you're watching it was the IT was the other game. 1068 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,160 It was the Penn State game. And it's like it's hard to do 1069 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,480 the cool light thing with the sound at noon. 1070 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,200 You know, we kind of get screwed by the kickoff time. 1071 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:52,800 Like I would love to see, I would love to see this team 1072 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,560 playing a prime time game in Memorial Stadium at some point 1073 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,480 just to happen this year. Maybe we'll come back to that in 1074 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,320 a second. But I will say you're you're 1075 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,240 skipping what has weirdly has been consistently like the best 1076 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,920 tradition in Memorial Stadium, which is the students singing 1077 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,640 don't stop believin. You know which what you know, 1078 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,040 it's almost taking a different turn now from a a meaning 1079 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,080 perspective. Maybe we're building something 1080 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,240 off of journey. I'm not entirely certain, but I 1081 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,880 I was sitting next to my buddy Dave, who came down from 1082 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,600 Chicagoland for the game. He had a great time by the way. 1083 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,040 He thought the atmosphere was electric, but he was really 1084 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,920 taken aback at how everybody in the stadium knew all the lyrics 1085 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,360 to that song. I'm like, yeah, I know. 1086 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,080 It's it's kind of inexplicable. I'm not sure if you can build 1087 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,520 around that song as an anthem, but we'll have to see what 1088 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,000 happens. There's other little seeds, 1089 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,440 though. And I agree with you in general. 1090 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,720 Like Indiana is just kind of learning how to crawl. 1091 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,440 But it's like it's a blank canvas. 1092 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,960 It's a great, it's like huge blank canvas that you could do 1093 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,160 something with. So I hope something grows in 1094 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,800 that space, yeah. It, it was just so much fun and 1095 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,680 you know, for those who couldn't make it for one reason or 1096 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,040 another, hopefully you can make it for the Nebraska game. 1097 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,080 And dude, moving the students has been like an A+ move. 1098 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,480 It is it really? Be more engaged, more like 1099 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,200 they're, they're coming up with more chance. 1100 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,840 They are louder. I mean, I was on the other side 1101 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,920 of the we had some unique seat. We had some, we were on the, on 1102 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,360 the on the field, which was very cool on the opposite side, but 1103 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,080 you could hear them on the other side. 1104 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,280 It was loud or we're normally very close to you. 1105 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,120 And they're they're loud, but like that, that's been a great 1106 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,520 move for the stadium. Yeah. 1107 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,160 That that reorg, as much as people were were dissatisfied 1108 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,680 with it on social media. It's turned that end of the 1109 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,600 stadium, which is also where my seats are into so much fun. 1110 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,400 And then and that enclosed. And I mean, there's the students 1111 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,400 are really into it. I don't know. 1112 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,000 I mean, students are an easy target. 1113 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,120 People have been blaming students for things, you know, 1114 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,960 since time immemorial with IU athletics when, you know, really 1115 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,720 the finger should be pointed at alums and and casuals. 1116 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,880 But man, the students were way into this game and it was 1117 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,000 really, really fun watching them getting up over and over again 1118 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,200 and cheering this team on. And I think having them with the 1119 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,280 band is a really nice touch. Like having them kind of 1120 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,800 surround the band. That's made a big difference as 1121 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,640 well. Yeah, there's there are the 1122 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,280 seeds of of a really cool stadium atmosphere starting to 1123 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:18,440 really be planted at IU. And unlike 2021 where, you know, 1124 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,520 there was this big runway into that season and really the two 1125 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,960 games that mattered, the Cincinnati game and the Michigan 1126 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,640 State game, Indiana just didn't deliver. 1127 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,400 Now Indiana has delivered in a game where everybody was there 1128 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,440 and, or at least most of the people, certainly all the 1129 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,880 students were there. You can build off of that and 1130 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,080 and you'll have to continue to deliver, but that doesn't 1131 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080 necessarily mean you have to win every one of those games. 1132 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,240 People want good experiences. People want meaningful football 1133 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,600 and they want Indiana to play good in meaningful football 1134 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,880 games. And it feels like Indiana is 1135 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,120 armed to be able to do that at this point. 1136 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,840 And that is really exciting to be able to say. 1137 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,200 Agreed and not we don't want to go down this don't just not down 1138 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,360 the rabbit hole, but a quick moment of saying, you know, now 1139 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,960 it's always like, you know, which comes first, you know, the 1140 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,800 fans or the team, Like the the team has done everything they 1141 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,360 need to do. Both Nebraska and Washington 1142 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,120 should be sellouts like just hard stop. 1143 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,320 I mean all Michigan should be too. 1144 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,800 And Purdue like there's the rest of the games and the schedule 1145 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,400 should be complete sellouts and 100% full like it's just there. 1146 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,040 There is no other reason why it should be that way. 1147 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,800 You're being named opponents. They're all big games. 1148 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,400 You're playing for something. You know, if you win this 1149 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,120 weekend, all of them, you're not just playing for a bowl. 1150 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:31,360 You're playing for what, walking out with my, my son James, who's 1151 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,640 still like understanding and it's like he's I'm like, so if 1152 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,520 we win next week, like we'll be eligible for a bowl and like 1153 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,360 he's like, so then and like that means that like after that we're 1154 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,720 just getting better bowls as we win games. 1155 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:46,040 And he's like, so that normally it's like, normally it works 1156 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,640 that way. Like I've never been in that 1157 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,040 situation. Normally we're just like 1158 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,320 squeaking in and like, dude, can we just get in Detroit and call 1159 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,400 it a bowl? It's just wild to think, you 1160 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,000 know, beginning of end of September, we could be getting 1161 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,800 bowl eligible. It's it's wild, Galen. 1162 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,120 It is wild. As we think about a couple of 1163 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,560 other things here, I know I'm the the bowl eligibility thing 1164 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,880 is just nuts to think about and the fact that next week they 1165 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,160 play Northwestern at Northwestern 3:30 Eastern kick 1166 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,440 on Big 10 Network and they could be bowl eligible on October 5th. 1167 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,680 I think it is. I mean, I believe other than 67 1168 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,160 doesn't count really because bowl eligibility worked much 1169 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,080 differently back then. This would functionally, I 1170 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,520 believe, be the earliest that IU has been bowl eligible in a 1171 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,040 realistic manner in its entire history. 1172 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,120 And that's important to keep in mind that like prior to about 1173 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,360 1984, there just weren't that many bowls. 1174 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,880 So I have, I know you're asking, I have the the tickets left if 1175 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,320 you want that and those numbers. Yeah. 1176 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,040 So anyway, being if if Indiana wins that, we're going to come 1177 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,600 back and talk about the Northwestern game in just a 1178 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,200 second. But if Indiana wins the the 1179 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,800 Northwestern game, they get a buy they go to the Nebraska game 1180 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,400 for homecoming week. What what is the ticket 1181 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,920 situation look like for Memorial Stadium in Indiana? 1182 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,520 So. For a total shout out to Tony 1183 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,760 Adrani who came up with this great formula. 1184 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:10,280 Like just people are awesome. There are 7100 tickets left for 1185 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:15,000 the Nebraska game, 8900 tickets left for Washington, 5500 left 1186 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,920 for for Michigan, and 8700 left for Purdue. 1187 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,760 I think 600 tickets were sold yesterday for Nebraska or today. 1188 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,040 I'm not sure what today is like, if it's yesterday or today 1189 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,840 thing, but so 7000, there's still two weeks left. 1190 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,320 I, I feel like we can get that cleared out in the amount of 1191 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,040 time, but you know that that's still a good number of tickets 1192 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080 for 7000. Let's get those sold now. 1193 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,160 Yeah, I'd say both. I mean, the the Washington game, 1194 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,080 you know, I think that'll be mostly IU fans. 1195 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,000 There aren't going to be a whole lot of Washington fans, but 1196 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,880 Nebraska fans will travel. Yeah. 1197 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,200 And and this is where I do think it's important if you're 1198 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,160 listening to this, you know, buy some tickets for that game. 1199 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,200 Let's get majority or, or almost exclusively Indiana people in 1200 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,960 the stadium. You know, I think that the, the 1201 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,200 idea that you're going to get invasions of other fans is still 1202 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,400 a thing because I think IU fans are still, you know, if you're, 1203 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,080 if you weren't jumping on buying tickets right away, like the the 1204 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,200 Michigan game, for instance, there is only 5500 tickets 1205 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,680 remaining, whereas there's 9000 essentially remaining for 1206 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,960 Washington and 7100 left for Nebraska. 1207 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,080 So that should give you a little bit of a sense of what you're 1208 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,440 looking at. But this is where IU fans like 1209 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,800 this is we, we said it before, we said it going into this week. 1210 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,240 This is a team worth buying tickets to go see it go, go take 1211 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,200 advantage of the opportunity. And you know the if I don't know 1212 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,600 what else they need to do at this point to earn a day. 1213 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,480 And yes, I know we get we've had complaints and I understand the 1214 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,000 complaints about issues with parking or issues with 1215 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,320 concessions. I'll say this like get there a 1216 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,080 little early. I have not seen a lot of issues 1217 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,120 with the parking and concessions at all this year. 1218 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,760 Concessions for me have actually been in my area 'cause I'm over 1219 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,920 in like Section 11, Section 12. That old setup is great. 1220 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,000 There's a lot of room, there's a lot of places to go. 1221 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,400 It's a much different experience than it has been in previous 1222 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,600 years. And parking wise, I mean there, 1223 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,880 there's a lot of it is people I think waiting too late to try to 1224 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,120 get down there and then things kind of get scrambled. 1225 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,800 That's not to to downgrade the issues that some people have 1226 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,000 had, but I do think that if you give yourself a little extra 1227 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,680 time, the the fun before the game is actually been really 1228 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,160 good. Like that whole atmosphere. 1229 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,440 I think IU athletics has done a really good job of putting 1230 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,920 things together that have made it a fun place to go and 1231 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,120 experience in the hour or two before the game. 1232 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,880 It's probably worth, you know, taking advantage of that to get 1233 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,600 yourself into position earlier. I would echo everything you 1234 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,200 said. I would say anybody who's saying 1235 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,200 that you that, you know, I would say, have you been to a game 1236 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,520 this year? Because I, because I will say my 1237 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,240 experience this year has been drastically different than the I 1238 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,320 I've had season tickets since 2008. 1239 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,640 And I used to go obviously when I lived in Bloomington from like 1240 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,960 85 to 2000. This is the best experience I've 1241 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,400 had at Memorial Stadium in all of those years. 1242 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,240 And I mentioned to you yesterday, you know, we had a 1243 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,640 soccer game up here. It got cancelled late. 1244 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,560 And then of course, the two kids were running out of the house 1245 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,080 late. We didn't get to Bloomington 1246 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,440 until like 1110. I was not, not, I was very 1247 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,200 nervous what we were going to get to a little bit of traffic 1248 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,600 on the bypass getting in, but it moved quickly. 1249 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,800 We were parked by 11/22. Had time to walk around the 1250 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,200 stadium, kind of talk to a bumped into a bunch of friends 1251 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,520 and then, you know, just my reptilian brain is like we 1252 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,440 should probably leave with like 3 minutes to go because I'm just 1253 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,800 like, I don't want to get caught in traffic out here. 1254 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,400 We park right in like lot 8 or 8 or 9, but like we're right there 1255 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,680 next to the to the Mellencamp practice facility. 1256 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,560 It's always tough getting out of there. 1257 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,720 So we stayed my and again, credit to my wife, who's 1258 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,640 probably way the better half of our relationship. 1259 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,440 She's like, no, like we're staying to the effing end. 1260 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,600 And I'm like, you're right, you're right, you're right, 1261 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720 you're right, you're right. But we stayed had a great time 1262 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,480 and then we get out and it's like I got out in like 10 1263 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,040 minutes. Like within 12 minutes I was on 1264 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,280 I-69, which is like this is I text you like this is 1265 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,680 unbelievable. Like we left the stadium I think 1266 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,560 at 422. I was at my house at 5, like 40. 1267 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,800 It was banana. Scott. 1268 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,360 When Scott texted me, I thought he needed me to come like change 1269 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,960 a tire for him or something, you know? 1270 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,360 There's no way you're actually home. 1271 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,640 Yeah. And people coming from Indy like 1272 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,480 the, you know, the 69 thing is just it's a it's once you get 1273 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,320 out, it's unbelievable. But normally it's like would 1274 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,520 take an hour to get a Memorial Stadium. 1275 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,840 That's not the case now. Maybe they just maybe there was 1276 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,800 enough people, a perfect amount of flow yesterday, but there's 1277 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,760 still a lot of people. There's like 35,000 there when 1278 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,120 the game ended. So all I can say is if, if 1279 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,040 you're basing and same thing with concessions, they have the 1280 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,640 quick, you know that the lines you get water, beer, hot dogs, 1281 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,320 you can scan out real quick. You know, if, if you're hearing, 1282 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,800 Oh, it's still tough, the traffic stuff to get out. 1283 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,120 Like I would say, have you been to a game this year? 1284 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,080 Because I've been to all of them and are all but one. 1285 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,720 And I've had the best experience in parking, in food, in the, the 1286 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,640 enjoyment. So like again, I go back to 1287 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,840 things are changing and they're all changing for the better. 1288 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,040 Yeah, it's, it is a much better experience. 1289 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,880 And I think and even like the, the, the, the video board show 1290 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,560 in the stadium, it's a lot more in line with what you would 1291 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,360 expect to see at a, at a power 5 or Power 4 conference team. 1292 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,280 The, the whole experience has been upgraded significantly. 1293 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,480 So if you're on the fence about coming down because of bad past 1294 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,880 experiences, I, I had a similar experience. 1295 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,920 Scott and I live in Bloomington, so it's not that long of a 1296 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,720 drive, but we didn't, we didn't leave. 1297 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,120 We waited till all the players came off the field. 1298 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,360 My, my daughter was standing down there like, you know, 1299 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,000 waving at the players and stuff like that. 1300 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:25,000 We took our time walking back to lot 12 and the, the, the, the 1301 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,040 departure was very simple. Like it was not like we were 1302 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,400 stuck in traffic for long at all. 1303 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,720 We were out on to, to feed lane very quickly and got home in a 1304 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,400 very reasonable amount of time. So that would be the message, I 1305 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,960 guess like let's, let's get people buying tickets and coming 1306 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,320 down here. I don't know what else you're 1307 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,080 waiting for at this point would be my, my primary message to 1308 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,520 people. So, Scott, we mentioned the the 1309 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,000 Northwestern game coming up this upcoming week and I mentioned 1310 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,360 earlier, 3:30 PM Eastern Northwestern is is not very good 1311 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,920 this year. This is a Northwestern team that 1312 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,920 if you were paying attention in the offseason, you know, 1313 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,960 Northwestern's one of those teams where they just have these 1314 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,880 random seasons where everything goes right. 1315 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,920 Not not too dissimilar to what Indiana has dealt with last 1316 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,640 year. You know, for a season that 1317 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,600 started as bad as it could for them with Pat Fitzgerald getting 1318 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,320 fired before the season started. They ended up 8:00 and 5:00. 1319 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,640 They won a bowl game like they, they had no business doing that. 1320 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,600 Given that, you know, they barely, they, they only scored 1321 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,920 22 points a game. If you were paying attention, 1322 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,840 you're like, this might be a regression candidate. 1323 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,920 And wow, have they looked like it so far this year. 2 and 2. 1324 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,600 They had a bye this week, but they they lost 24 to five at 1325 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,920 Washington. They lost 26 to 20 at home to 1326 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,400 Duke. Duke's a decent team, but 1327 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,360 they're only averaging 17 points a game. 1328 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,720 They've only allowed fifteen points a game, which they get 1329 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,960 some credit for, but they have the probably statistically at 1330 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,520 least, the worst quarterback in the Big 10. 1331 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,800 Jack Lausch, only a 48% completion percentage. 1332 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,720 He's got the lowest EPA per play of any team, of any quarterback 1333 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,960 of any team in the conference. This looks like on paper a game 1334 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,080 where Indiana is going to be a prohibitive statistical 1335 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,240 favorite. They're already a betting 1336 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,400 favorite that opened at 11 1/2. I can't remember the last time 1337 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,000 Indiana was a double digit favorite in a road conference 1338 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,920 game. Scott, I mean, do you have a 1339 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,720 recollection of this? I certainly do not. 1340 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,960 But obviously a game that's going to be played in a unique 1341 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,240 circumstance in that lakefront stadium that they're playing in 1342 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,040 for temporary purposes while they renovate Ryan Field. 1343 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,680 And again, it's one of those games where Northwestern, as bad 1344 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,320 as they have often been on offense, they tend to cause the 1345 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,520 other team to make mistakes. You know, they tend to not make 1346 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,520 a tremendous amount of mistakes themselves. 1347 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,400 You wonder, you know, with a with a week off to study a lot 1348 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,040 of film, Northwestern's not a team that's got a tremendous 1349 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,200 amount of talent, but they're also not complete pushovers. 1350 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,600 They wouldn't have gone 8:00 and 5:00 last year if they were. 1351 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,280 You feel really confident about Indiana in this game. 1352 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,520 But it's also a game where, you know, Indiana can't take it for 1353 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,080 granted. And I think that that is the 1354 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,600 message that certainly the coaching staff will be pushing 1355 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,440 across to these folks. The last time Indiana won in 1356 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,600 Evanston was 1993. They're oh, and eight since 1357 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,320 then. And you know, this is a place 1358 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,040 and it's a different stadium, mind you, as as my doctor 1359 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,840 pointed out on on Twitter, like there are no ghosts of old 1360 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,920 lacrosse players under the lacrosse field that Indiana's 1361 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,120 going to be playing on. But I do think it's worth 1362 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,840 noting, like this has been a weirdly hard team to beat on the 1363 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,280 road for Indiana. All the stuff is lined up in a 1364 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,080 positive way right now for Indiana in this game, But 1365 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,320 Indiana just needs to make sure they take the game seriously 1366 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,840 from beginning to end. I'm a lot more confident in 1367 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,240 their ability to do that under this coaching staff than I would 1368 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,640 have been in other seasons. So for all of your friends out 1369 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,520 there who are giving you crap about Indiana's schedule, I 1370 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,840 would just say this that you know, the Big 10 let us out of 1371 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,880 the Big 10 E, which is nice. But to start the the meet of the 1372 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,080 Big 10 schedule, we play Maryland. 1373 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,200 They're coming off a bye, we play Northwestern, they're 1374 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,520 coming off a bye, we play Nebraska, they're coming off a 1375 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,440 bye, we play Washington. But yes, most we are too in the 1376 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,080 Nebraska game. Yeah, but then we play 1377 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,160 Washington and they're coming off a bye. 1378 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,000 That's five week, 4 weeks in a row the team we're playing is 1379 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,400 coming off a bye. That seems a little bit unfair 1380 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,120 that everyone just gets two weeks to prepare for us during 1381 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,000 the meet of our schedule. But I guess that's the way I 1382 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,720 guess it's like, all right, you don't get everything I you we're 1383 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,800 not going to give you. But anyway, that that sucks. 1384 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,080 But I you know, I'm going to go back to what you said, like it's 1385 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,760 OK to be a little bit fun and cocky. 1386 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,480 We're a better team than Northwestern. 1387 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,760 It's fun pulling up their schedule and looking at their 1388 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,960 attendance. It's like 12,011 thousand, 1389 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,120 10,000, like they're trending in the wrong direction. 1390 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,360 They only had 10,600 of their last game. 1391 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,960 It's a temporary stadium. There's not going to be a lot of 1392 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,160 fans there. You know, when Northwestern 1393 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,160 basketball was bad, that kind of became Assembly Hall. 1394 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,080 NA, lot of IU alums in the Chicago area. 1395 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,840 I could see a lot of IU fans there and you know, again, being 1396 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,480 a little bit confident with what we have. 1397 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,840 I I think this was the perfect way to win the Maryland game is 1398 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,920 you won the game. You won kind of handily, but you 1399 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,960 made enough mistakes where it's not like signetti and the staff 1400 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,920 is going to have a tough week getting the guys focus. 1401 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,760 It's like, hey, Curtis Rourke, you had a good game. 1402 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,840 Remember the two picks you threw back-to-back plays? 1403 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,640 All right, let's lock in, let's quit. 1404 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,440 I just you you kind of had that perfect blend of like more than 1405 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,120 enough mistake. Hey, defense think you guys are 1406 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,120 big. You know, tough shit. 1407 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,040 Remember the one play 75 yard drive. 1408 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,440 All right, let's let's lock in like. 1409 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,600 And I think that the way that this team has played and the 1410 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,800 seriousness which with which with this team has kind of taken 1411 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,040 these games lends me to believe I don't think they're going to 1412 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,320 take games off. They're going to forget about 1413 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,120 who they're playing. And does make me very confident 1414 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,720 that, you know, we joked about for UCLA, but it's like this is 1415 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,440 a business trip. That's the way Signeti 1416 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,920 approaches these things. He doesn't look like the kind of 1417 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,600 coach who's suddenly going to be like, all right, man, let's have 1418 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,000 a party. Like we're going to go in there 1419 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,760 and just who cares? Like I think he's really focused 1420 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,560 on winning all of the games, which I know is what coaches are 1421 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,600 supposed. But it's like I I think this is 1422 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240 what he wants to do. And it doesn't seem like he has 1423 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,200 a let's party and have a good time Switch. 1424 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,439 It seems like, all right, we'll take 12 hours. 1425 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,160 Enjoy this win. I'm going to write my letter to 1426 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,240 the students. And now we're focused on 1427 01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:26,600 Northwestern. Like I even saw, and I'm sure 1428 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:31,319 most teams do this, but I even saw that the post of IU football 1429 01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:33,960 had a picture of, you know, Affleck as the players were 1430 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,720 going to the student section. They had already changed the 1431 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,399 imagery toward the locker room. That's like next game's 1432 01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,279 Northwestern. Like so the minute they're 1433 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,120 coming off the field, it's like, all right, we're focused on 1434 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,960 Northwestern. So this team and this staff has 1435 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,120 given you nothing to think that they're not going to come in 1436 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,120 prepared and ready to play against Northwestern. 1437 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,439 And if they do that, like they should win and they should win 1438 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,160 by probably 10 to 14 because they are a much better team than 1439 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,800 Northwestern. I think you said it perfectly. 1440 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:07,240 I agree and my if I'm if I'm hesitant at all it is simply 1441 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:10,640 because weird stuff sometimes happens in Rd. games in college 1442 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,279 football period. But this game is set up really 1443 01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:15,960 well for Indiana. Like, I don't know that Indiana 1444 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,359 could be at a higher, you know, emotional or mental state. 1445 01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:23,359 They really do like they look like they're coming together and 1446 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,279 winning this game. Really. 1447 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,640 It completely fundamentally changes the way you think about 1448 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,479 the remaining part of the schedule because, dude, to be 1449 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,920 able to play this game and and look, and we keep saying this 1450 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,399 and you keep knocking on wood, Indiana comes out of yet another 1451 01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:41,520 game without seeming to have suffered any like sizable 1452 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,479 injuries. And also, and I think, you know, 1453 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,120 especially in light of the UNLV thing, you're now in Game 5, 1454 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,800 which means that you you know, if if anybody was going to jump 1455 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,800 ship because they wanted to red shirt and then be in the portal, 1456 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,240 that's done as well. So it looks like Indiana's got 1457 01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,880 their full Yeah, people they. Like six guys. 1458 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:01,080 Do that. But it's like they were they 1459 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,480 were not, they were not major players, correct. 1460 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,440 So it does feel like Indiana has come out of this first part of 1461 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:10,560 the schedule intact. And, you know, now they go into 1462 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,440 an October where they play three games and then they have a 1463 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,960 November where they play 4. And, you know, to be 5 and O at 1464 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,920 this point and to be in the position that they're in right 1465 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,880 now, you could, as I said earlier, I don't know what 1466 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,520 Indiana could have done better than they've done over these 1467 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,120 first five games. You can only play the schedule 1468 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,560 that's in front of you. I don't think anybody expected 1469 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,600 UCLA to be this bad. UCLA lost to Oregon at home last 1470 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,120 night. I'll note that Oregon beat them 1471 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,680 by a smaller margin than Indiana beat them by might be, might be 1472 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,400 meaningful. But to beat Maryland the way 1473 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,840 that they did this past week and now to be able to play 1474 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,160 Northwestern and have that be one of your that you've got 3 1475 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,600 Rd. games left in the whole season. 1476 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,160 And that was another question. You have two. 1477 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,200 It's wild. It's nuts to think about. 1478 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,160 But Indiana over the course of the last six games, four of them 1479 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,240 are going to be at home. You know, you, you couldn't set 1480 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,120 the table better for Indiana moving forward and that is 1481 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,600 really exciting. So we'll have more talk 1482 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,560 throughout the course of the week. 1483 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,040 The last thing I wanted to hit on you. 1484 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,640 You. Had a night game, you said come 1485 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,320 back to it. I mean, here's the thing, like, 1486 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,520 you know, Nebraska did our we were joking significantly in the 1487 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,320 stands as the scores kept popping up in the first half. 1488 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,280 And it's like, how is it scoreless between Nebraska and 1489 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,440 Purdue at half? Like, like God, I, I, I'm glad 1490 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,840 Nebraska came back and won that because they have a fascinating 1491 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,400 game. This upcoming week, they host 1492 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,440 Rutgers. Rutgers pulls off the win 1493 01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,280 against Washington this past week. 1494 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,000 How well Rutgers travels, I don't know. 1495 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,440 I expect Nebraska to win because it'll be a home game, but I love 1496 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:42,520 I love I'm getting a little back into social media in areas I 1497 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,760 love the meme of like the Andy Dufresne and the. 1498 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,840 Rams, where it's like Indiana and Rutgers out of the Big 10 E, 1499 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,320 it's like. But, you know, but I mean, that 1500 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,880 becomes a good win for Nebraska if they can beat Rutgers at 1501 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,920 home, a A6 and O Indiana team and A5 in one Nebraska team. 1502 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,640 Like that seems like a 730 kick. That that seems like the kind of 1503 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,480 game that they would put 'cause I mean, a lot of it really 1504 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,480 depends on, well, what are the other games that you're going up 1505 01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:11,120 against in a given week? And if you go to, you know, that 1506 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,320 would be Week 8 and you look at the other games that would be in 1507 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,360 line in the Big 10, you've got Michigan at Illinois. 1508 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,320 That will probably be the the premier game. 1509 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,280 I'm imagining that might end up be like being like the 330 kick 1510 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,040 in that game or that that week. But you look down the rest of of 1511 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,160 the lineup that week for the Big 10 and you know, you got 1512 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:36,360 Nebraska and Indiana, you've got who else is playing that week. 1513 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,560 It's it's kind of a weird week in college football in general. 1514 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,720 Like, it's Georgia, Texas, which should be a really good game. 1515 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:45,880 Alabama, Tennessee, Miami at Louisville, Auburn at Missouri, 1516 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,080 TCU at Utah, USC at Maryland. I don't know if that's really 1517 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,680 that marquee of a game other than the fact that USC is 1518 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,600 playing, you know, that maybe becomes a 730 kick. 1519 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,040 That would be the one thing that might hold Indiana back from 1520 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,640 being able to play in that kind of a game. 1521 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,200 But I do think Nebraska with the huge television audience that it 1522 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,080 has, especially if they are ranked again by that point and 1523 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,160 Indiana's ranked, that would be the advantage it would have over 1524 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,640 USC, Maryland in that Maryland is almost certainly not going to 1525 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,360 be ranked. UCLA plays at Rutgers. 1526 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,440 I don't think UCLA has been good enough to warrant, you know, 1527 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,840 being on that late. And you got Wisconsin at 1528 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,240 Northwestern and Iowa and Michigan State are are the other 1529 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,800 two games in the Big 10 that week. 1530 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,240 It's like Nebraska, Indiana's like probably like the best game 1531 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,480 or maybe the second best game in that line up that week. 1532 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,240 What about the Indiana Michigan game? 1533 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,440 Does that get bumped? Hold on, I wanted to do 1534 01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:39,720 Washington IN next 'cause I think that cause Nebraska, Ohio 1535 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,960 State is the premier game of the following week, but that has big 1536 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,280 Noon kick written all over it, no question. 1537 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,200 As far as I'm concerned there Penn State at, at Wisconsin, 1538 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,000 Illinois, Oregon, Washington and Indiana, it feels like Indiana, 1539 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,080 Washington's going to be kind of 4th in that line. 1540 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,280 So that really feels that's but, but again, because you're 1541 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,240 playing a West Coast opponent, that's probably not a noon kick. 1542 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,720 That's probably a 330 kick, which is great. 1543 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,400 I love 330 kicks, especially when we get to this time of 1544 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,960 year. Now when you flip forward to the 1545 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,680 Michigan game, I'm pretty sure that's not a prime time game. 1546 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,960 I'm pretty sure that's a big noon kick that week. 1547 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,000 I, I, you know, when I look at the, because it's, again, it's 1548 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,920 like Purdue at Ohio State. I think Michigan and Indiana by 1549 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,920 that point is going to be a bigger game and I think a. 1550 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,040 Question about that game. I really got to ask you. 1551 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,160 There's a like it's no longer fever dream. 1552 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,360 We're getting into like, you know, the, the, the, the 1553 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,800 thermometers in the in the orange, not the red. 1554 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,840 If we're 10 and O going into that game, are we ranked higher 1555 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,360 than Michigan Well? So Michigan's an interesting 1556 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,480 case right now because I mean, they won this week and and they 1557 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:49,520 get credit for winning this week, but man, they they just 1558 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:54,040 don't look right offensively. And I mean, they're, they're 1559 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,520 taking pride and like we won despite only throwing for 85 1560 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,600 yards a game. Like eventually that will not 1561 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,200 work. You guys were champions last 1562 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,840 year. Just don't forget that. 1563 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,200 And I think what's what's low key fascinating about that 1564 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,680 Michigan game is so they've won. They beat Southern Cal at home 1565 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,760 2724. They beat or sorry, USCI know 1566 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,400 they hate it when I say Southern Cal. 1567 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,520 I apologize to to our our West Coast listeners. 1568 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,920 They're in the Big 10 now they can deal with. 1569 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,000 It they're they beat Minnesota 2724 again at home. 1570 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:28,520 Their next 5 games are at Washington, then a bye, then at 1571 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:33,080 Illinois, then Michigan State at home, then Oregon at home and 1572 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,960 then Indiana on the road. That is, that is a like in this 1573 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:41,800 Big 10 this season, that is, you know, four really tough games, 1574 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,240 they lose 1 or. Two of those and we go 10 and O. 1575 01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:45,800 Right. We should be ranked ahead of 1576 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,400 them. You maybe, maybe. 1577 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,320 And I think and right now if you look at FPI, which again is just 1578 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,480 a statistical projection of things, it's it's you know, we 1579 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,840 and the ESPN uses it, if you go on their schedule page to look 1580 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,720 at, you know, what the match up numbers would be right now. 1581 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:06,480 Right now with Michigan at 4:00 and 1:00, Indiana is a 68.1% 1582 01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:09,040 favorite according to FPI to beat Michigan at home. 1583 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,480 I mean, so yeah, I this is where it's like, I don't want to get 1584 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:16,440 myself emotionally 2 down that pathway, but it is really 1585 01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,120 fascinating the way all of that like shapes up. 1586 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,040 And I do agree, like if if the projection simply that the 1587 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,560 computers are throwing out there. 1588 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,840 Hold up, Indiana could be Tenano in that game and and I think 1589 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,120 they would be not just favored, but probably ranked ahead of 1590 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,160 Michigan. I will say this, if the one 1591 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,280 thing about the fever dream stuff that would just be a 1592 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,680 little cautious about is that game at Michigan State is not a 1593 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,760 game that should be slept on or taken lightly. 1594 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,520 And I feel like a lot of people are right now. 1595 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,160 And, and look, I've I've been as guilty of this as anybody in 1596 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,520 terms of overlooking that game. Overlooking the Northwestern 1597 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,760 game to some degree, quarterback has something he's he's 1598 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,960 electric, he's young. I think they have a good coach. 1599 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,400 Like I think they're a year away from being a really good team. 1600 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,760 But those are teams that normally when they're a year 1601 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,360 away, it means they have a couple of games where in the 1602 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,560 season before it's like, oh, you could see the highlights like 1603 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,320 they they are. Well coached and have a really 1604 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,600 good young quarterback. Yeah. 1605 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,280 So anyway, my, my point is like, don't get too far out over your 1606 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,600 skis, just in general fans, but get somewhat over you see, like 1607 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,520 be optimistic. And again, I earlier I just 1608 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,400 tried to people for not just enjoying it. 1609 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:25,920 So I'm clearly talking out of both sides of my mouth here. 1610 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,280 But but I in terms of like rankings, we're the right 1611 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,160 amount, the game amount. Well, my point is more like 1612 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,360 don't don't assume like Indiana's going to be in the top 1613 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,040 10. But I do think that just on the 1614 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,680 numbers and the way the statistics are trending, Indiana 1615 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,640 does, they're playing better and the computers are evaluating 1616 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,160 them better than Michigan is right now. 1617 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,360 And you can say the same about Northwestern. 1618 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,920 You can say the same about about Nebraska. 1619 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,640 You can say the same about Washington. 1620 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,560 Like a lot of what we're seeing out of Indiana so far, just it's 1621 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,720 not a mirage. And I think the people that 1622 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,960 thought, oh, it's a mirage because of the competition, now 1623 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,240 you've got live competition. They just beat, you know, a top 1624 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,360 six quarterback in the Big 10 and a team that is going to be 1625 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,000 right on the borderline of 6/7 wins probably this year. 1626 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,160 If you're still questioning that. 1627 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,160 The one thing I'll continue to say is outside of Ohio State, 1628 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,360 who Indiana does have to play, unfortunately, and Oregon, who 1629 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,960 Indiana does not have to play. I think all of the other teams 1630 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,840 in the Big 10 right now are essentially on the same level or 1631 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,560 slightly lower than what Indiana is. 1632 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,600 I mean, if you go down the list, like, I don't think, I don't 1633 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,760 think Penn State is that good. I think they deserve a lot of 1634 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,800 credit for the way that they beat Illinois yesterday. 1635 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,480 But I don't think that they are like head and shoulders better 1636 01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,800 than everybody else. Washington's got issues, 1637 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,320 Nebraska's got issues. Illinois's pretty good, but 1638 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,720 they're clearly not invincible, as we saw yesterday. 1639 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,720 We just watched Indiana beat Maryland. 1640 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:54,480 Rutgers is still a bit flawed. USC, Michigan State, Wisconsin, 1641 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,440 I mean, that Michigan, that's the group that you're talking 1642 01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:59,600 about there. And I think the way Indiana's 1643 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,800 playing is as good as any of those teams. 1644 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,280 And that's why I don't think that the 10 and O or 11 and one 1645 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,040 talk on the season is out of the realm of possibility. 1646 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,800 It's not, it's not fever dreams. It's not the Scott fever dream 1647 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,000 room. We need like a lounge or 1648 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,840 something for that like. A lounge. 1649 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,080 The lounge is better than the room. 1650 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,240 Yeah, Room. Sounds, yeah, but but it it's 1651 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,520 really boring out of just performance so far. 1652 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,720 And at this point, if you're going to say that other teams 1653 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,720 are going to continue to perform based upon what they've done 1654 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,800 statistically up to this point in the season, you got to say 1655 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,160 the same about Indiana. In Scott's Fever Dream Lounge, 1656 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,120 we only serve, you know, artisanal arugula, just so you 1657 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,120 know, like that's all we have there in the room is just this, 1658 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,040 this little buskets arugula. Last question for you. 1659 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,840 Given the timeline we're in right now, do you think we will 1660 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,680 get ranked this week? Yeah. 1661 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,440 I do, and by the time this pod hits, we may already be ranked. 1662 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:54,360 I know Brett Mcmurphy, who didn't have Indiana ranked last 1663 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,560 week, had Indiana 24th. I think Indiana will land about 1664 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:02,120 24th, maybe 23rd, which is fine. You know, And it's funny because 1665 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,440 on the one hand, you can say, well, rankings don't matter. 1666 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,120 They do matter to Indiana. It's happened so infrequently. 1667 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,560 It is recognition on a national stage, which helps recruiting. 1668 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,160 It helps fans be excited. It helps alumni be excited. 1669 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,880 It helps students get excited. It helps the team feel like 1670 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,400 they're really accomplishing something. 1671 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,120 I mean, I do. We talk so much about 1672 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,960 confidence. We talk so much about how 1673 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,200 important feeling like you belong is to football teams. 1674 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,360 For IU to be able to go into a game and say we are a ranked 1675 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,160 team, it doesn't mean that they're necessarily going to 1676 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,000 play better, but I do think that it helps boost the morale of the 1677 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,200 team and saying all this hard work is paying off and we're 1678 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,680 getting recognized nationally for it. 1679 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,400 And that does matter. I think in the big scheme of 1680 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,560 things, rankings don't matter to teams who get ranked all the 1681 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,640 time. Indiana does not get ranked all 1682 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,240 the time. So I I think it happens this 1683 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,280 week. I, I, I would agree. 1684 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,680 I, I kind of have enjoyed not being ranked, just kind of being 1685 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,480 quietly, you know, coming up on people. 1686 01:20:55,480 --> 01:21:00,280 But I, I think it, it would be a very flawed system if we don't 1687 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,800 get ranked at this point, especially like so many of the 1688 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,360 teams now have one loss. And it's like you get to a point 1689 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,680 where after 567, you know, we're at 5. 1690 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,240 It's like, all right, there's, there's two conference 1691 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,480 opponents. Like at some point you just got 1692 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:14,360 to stop the schedule talk. It's like we just, we're winning 1693 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,320 games and, you know, Illinois has a loss. 1694 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,840 And it's like, at some point wins are more important than 1695 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,800 losses, no matter whether that you talk about strength of 1696 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,880 schedule. So I don't see any reason why, 1697 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,880 you know, Illinois should be out and we should at least be in 1698 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,320 that spot. The last thing I'll say before 1699 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:34,400 we finish this was from Taylor earlier on of the FP More. 1700 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,920 More info you're getting. No, no, this was publicly 1701 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,480 tweeted. You could have accessed this 1702 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:41,480 too, but I gave you I gave you 80 minutes and you didn't bring 1703 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:43,160 it up. So I have no sympathy for you, 1704 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,080 Sir. Indiana in the FPI, the the 1705 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,800 power ranking that ESPN does, the computer based one, LSU 1706 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,400 jumped them. So they're up to 16th or down to 1707 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,800 16th. I guess Indiana is, but Indiana 1708 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,040 is now projected to win 10 games. 1709 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,040 They have 100% chance to win six games. 1710 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,080 We're, I love how we just, people just brush that off like 1711 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,480 what, what, what planet have we landed on? 1712 01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:15,360 They have an 8.3% chance to reach the Big 10 or to win the 1713 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,560 Big 10 championship in the regular season. 1714 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,000 They have a 39.6% chance at being in the College Football 1715 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,240 Playoff, which is essentially a 40% chance. 1716 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,200 Wild. It's wild to think about. 1717 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,080 And a 2.9% chance to reach the national championship. 1718 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,600 Now, I'm not I'm not counting that. 1719 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,000 Yeah, that's probably probably. But but again, it's like if you 1720 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,680 finish eleven and one and your one losses to Ohio State, it, it 1721 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,240 is a really fascinating like, you know, pathway to walk down. 1722 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,960 It's like, are you a favorite to get into the College Football 1723 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,040 Playoff now since it's 12 teams? It's just, it's almost I don't 1724 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,720 even know how to approach that topic. 1725 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,960 It's like it's like jumping from learning how to start a fire to 1726 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,920 quantum physics for IU football. I I I don't even know how to 1727 01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,600 calculate. And then again, it part of it's 1728 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,640 like we've I haven't had a 12 team playoff before. 1729 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,920 We have no clue what it's functionally going to look like. 1730 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,080 But if Indiana keeps winning, they end up being as wild as it 1731 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,280 is in that conversation. And I don't know how that plays 1732 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,760 out. I don't think anybody really 1733 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,880 knows how like strength, the schedule's going to get factored 1734 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,640 in. And, and really, it doesn't 1735 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,640 matter unless Indiana wins at least 11 games in the regular 1736 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,480 season as far as I'm concerned. But the fact that that's even on 1737 01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:27,040 the table and that eleven wins is only one win away from what 1738 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,920 FBI is currently projecting is nuts. 1739 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,080 It's nuts, Scott. It's nuts considering in our 1740 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,600 preview pod, we were both optimistic at 8:00, but we're 1741 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,600 having a discussion of like, well, you know, if we make a 1742 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,640 bowl like maybe Detroit or, you know, the Nashville Bowl, it's 1743 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,760 like if I would have just said, well, Galen, what about the 1744 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,600 College Football Playoff? You'd be like, all right, You 1745 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,800 would have like paused the pod and like, hey, dude, like let's 1746 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,320 let's like I know you're the fun crazy one. 1747 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,240 Like let's take a take a breath. We're going to come back. 1748 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,720 I'm going to edit this out. Like, I mean, to go from talking 1749 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,000 about, you know, getting a Detroit Nashville bid to be like 1750 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,560 or the College Football Playoff, like there's not a lot of teams 1751 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,280 that have that variance from one year. 1752 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,440 I mean, this is a team we haven't made a bowl in three 1753 01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:08,640 years. We we won what, three games last 1754 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:14,600 year, 4 games the year before. It's it is wild to to see this 1755 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:19,080 happening right before our eyes. And I again, it's if we don't 1756 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,040 make those heights, that's not a bad season. 1757 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,720 Like I'll take a breath and a step back. 1758 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,480 We're probably going to win six games this year. 1759 01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:29,760 I say probably just because we haven't done it yet, but 100% 1760 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,400 chance to win six games. That's not nothing like all this 1761 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,320 is awesome and raising the floor is something that doesn't like 1762 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,640 this is where I'll say it doesn't happen in one season. 1763 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,400 So suddenly now next year College Football Playoff isn't 1764 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,320 the floor like the floor for IU football for the foreseeable 1765 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,720 future and probably under the signeti era given his age. 1766 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,520 If we say it's you know, 7 to 10 years is just making a bowl like 1767 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,120 that, that is where IU is going to be at for 10 years. 1768 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,880 Like if we have a 10 year stretch where we just make a 1769 01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,480 bowl year in year out or we're in competition for a bowl most 1770 01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:03,520 years, I think we're still in a spot that's a really good 1771 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:04,960 season. And the fact that we are 1772 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,160 basically there at the end of September is something that 1773 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,480 needs to be really thought about and and lauded. 1774 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:16,320 Like that's amazing. What's interesting also is 1775 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,160 Indiana, they, their strength of schedule has not been strong, 1776 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,680 it's 108th right now. But their strength of record, 1777 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,560 which is the, the ESPN calculates essentially the 1778 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,080 chance that an average top 25 team would have this team's 1779 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,960 record or better given the schedule, Indiana's 14th in 1780 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,960 strength of record. So they are performing at the 1781 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,120 level of a top 25 team. Their remaining strength of 1782 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,040 schedule is top. They have their, their remaining 1783 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,160 strength of schedule is 31st in the country. 1784 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,920 And that is that is roughly the same that Oregon is going to be 1785 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,600 facing. It is slightly worse than what 1786 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,760 Penn State's going to be facing. It's slightly worse than what 1787 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,720 Michigan's going to be facing, but it's better than what like 1788 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,600 Illinois is going to be facing. So whatever Indiana does the 1789 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,840 rest of the season, they will have earned it against the 1790 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,440 schedule that they have remaining. 1791 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,120 And, you know, I think that that's really exciting. 1792 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,160 Nowhere hour 20, but it's like I'm, I'm, I am tired of the 1793 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,480 strength of schedule thing because it's like in 2021 we had 1794 01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:12,680 a very tough strength of schedule. 1795 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,040 That team wasn't great. We went 2 and 10. 1796 01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,760 So I, I always say to people like who give me any kind of 1797 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,920 that argument, Like, Hey, we had a really tough strength of 1798 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:20,960 schedule. We were two and 10. 1799 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,920 Nobody came to my defense said, hey, man, I use pretty good. 1800 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,640 They're just playing like you're just like, hey, man, that team 1801 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,080 sucks. Like what's more fun having to 1802 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,240 debate with somebody like, hey, don't care, Like I can't hear 1803 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,160 you through all the wins. Like all I do is win, win, win. 1804 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,600 Or do you want to just suck and be two and 10, but be like be 1805 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,920 able to rest on your laurels of like, oh man, we we play a 1806 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,880 really tough schedule. Like we it, it's this is way 1807 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,280 more fun. The the one. 1808 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:43,800 So there's two more stats. I lied. 1809 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,000 I've got two more stats since. Why? 1810 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,680 Why not go to an hour and a half? 1811 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,360 Because people have stuck with us that long. 1812 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,440 Hopefully you find this as joyous as we do. 1813 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,120 ESPN also has a stat called Game Control Rank, and what game 1814 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,800 Control rank is, is it reflects the chance that an average top 1815 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,960 25 team would control games from start to finish the way that a 1816 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,120 particular team has done, given the schedule they've played. 1817 01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:10,880 Indiana is fifth in the country in that the teams that are 1818 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,640 ranked ahead of them. Right now, Ohio State is 4th. 1819 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,160 Alabama, excuse me, Texas is third, Alabama is second, and 1820 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,960 Tennessee is first. That says a lot like this 1821 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,600 Indiana, it's not just that Indiana's winning games. 1822 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,280 It is that they are choking their opponents out in these 1823 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,840 games. And there were very few teams in 1824 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,080 the country that are doing that. I mean, even other Big 10 teams. 1825 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,680 I mean, Penn State's game control rank is 22nd. 1826 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,320 Oregon's has been pretty good and they're 12th. 1827 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,640 Georgia is only 16th in game control rank. 1828 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,520 And again, it's it's a reflection of you can only do 1829 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,520 what you do against the teams that you play. 1830 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,920 You can't really control who you're playing, but what you can 1831 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,920 control is how you're playing against those teams. 1832 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,520 And for Indiana to be 5th in game control and 4th in the 1833 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,040 country, an average in game win probability, which is the other 1834 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,640 really outstanding 1. And again, the teams that 1835 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,680 outranked them there are Tennessee, Texas, and Ohio 1836 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,000 State. Really great company to be in. 1837 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,520 I am fascinated and really excited to see how Indiana fares 1838 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,560 against tougher competition because if they maintain these 1839 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,760 patterns, you know, that would be probably the most exciting 1840 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,320 thing that we've, we've seen with IU football maybe ever. 1841 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:21,720 Not just that they're winning, but it's like, you know, go back 1842 01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,160 to 67. That team won a bunch of games 1843 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,040 in, in in close fashion. 2019 was the same way that team won a 1844 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,520 bunch of games in close fashion. This has been different and 1845 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,360 that's what makes this team like both so joyful to watch, but 1846 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,400 also kind of hard to get your head wrapped around 'cause it's 1847 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,080 like a different team has put Indiana uniforms on. 1848 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:43,880 And to some degree that's the case. 1849 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,200 Like this, just this team just just plays in a very different 1850 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,720 manner. Even when Indiana's been good, 1851 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,840 we have tended to watch them being good. 1852 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,880 Almost like it's almost felt like it was an not an accident, 1853 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,040 but like a little bit of luck was involved. 1854 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,160 I mean, even going back to 2020, which was statistically 1855 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,240 Indiana's probably best season and you know, within, with the 1856 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,840 exception of the end, that team was game control ranked 15th on 1857 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,240 the season for the whole year. And that, you know, that we, we 1858 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,280 still look back at some of the performances that year. 1859 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,120 And it wasn't just that Indiana was winning, but they were 1860 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,760 winning handily. So that's going to be something 1861 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,120 to keep an eye on moving forward. 1862 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,720 Last thing I'll say, and this was again something that Taylor 1863 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,280 just tweeted out. Do you want to take this one 1864 01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:27,360 just so you can say that you read something that Taylor 1865 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,760 tweeted out? No, you could say no, you're 1866 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,440 batting, you're batting 1000. Keep it going. 1867 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,160 So Indiana is so Taylor's tweet is Kurt Signetti is currently 1868 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,800 leading the biggest year one turn around in IU football 1869 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:45,240 history, which isn't surprising. Indiana's 29th in the latest S&P 1870 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:50,360 Plus rankings, which is a 46% turn around from last year. 1871 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:56,880 The previous high in any head coaches first year at IU is 33% 1872 01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,560 increase and the highest in the 21st century has been 30%. 1873 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:05,160 So my point being like, this is unprecedented for IU just in 1874 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,640 general what Signetti is doing, and I'm fascinated to see how it 1875 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,360 continues, starting with this Northwestern game coming up over 1876 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,800 the weekend. I think it's fair to say at this 1877 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,360 point I'm going to go out on a limb. 1878 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,280 I think the Signeti hire was a good hire, Galen. 1879 01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,200 I feel comfortable. I think I'm comfortable making 1880 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,920 that call now. I think I think we made a good 1881 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,600 hire. Yeah, between I think it was, I 1882 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,000 think I saw it as AB plus on some sites. 1883 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,200 I think it was AB plus. It's a good B plus hire between 1884 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,720 that and Curtis Rourke. I mean, you know, like Rourke 1885 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:41,400 coming in and you know his I, I can tell you his nil number is 1886 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,440 not nearly as high as a lot of quarterbacks that were brought 1887 01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:47,200 in to be quarterbacks at Power 4 schools this year. 1888 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:52,160 I mean, he is third in the country I think in EPA per 1889 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,320 passing attempt, something ridiculous like that. 1890 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,400 You know, Signetti was a tremendous hire, Rourke was a 1891 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,160 tremendous player to bring in and you can kind of go down the 1892 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,680 list. So many new faces to IU that 1893 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,000 just looked perfect in terms of what what the fit has been and 1894 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:11,480 how they performed so far. Yeah, we're good Blue skies 1895 01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:14,000 ahead and I hope for more. I think we're going to have more 1896 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,080 positive podcasts like this moving forward. 1897 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,480 I think so. I hope you coach. 1898 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,720 Thank you, Coach Sig. And the last thing I will say is 1899 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,000 I texted this to you later. Like the other really fun thing 1900 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,560 that's going on is there's a great subculture of signetti 1901 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,360 merchandise and just logos out there. 1902 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,080 Like just just go search and look around. 1903 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,320 There's some really hot stuff out there that's really good 1904 01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,440 with Signeti. Yeah, there's a lot of really, 1905 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,840 really awesome stuff. I will. 1906 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,480 Last thing I'll note, another new tweet. 1907 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:47,240 This is from Alec Lasley, ESP NS Experts projecting who's going 1908 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,680 to make the College Football Playoff as of this morning, the 1909 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,200 29th of September. One of our favorites, Bill 1910 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:57,720 Connolly has IU as the 11 seed in the playoff, and Harry Lyles, 1911 01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,800 Junior has Indiana as the 10 seed in the playoff. 1912 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,880 My brain can't compute that. I'm not sure I could understand, 1913 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,560 do I? We, we have to go to that game. 1914 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:06,800 I I. I don't even know when is that 1915 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,800 game where is play like how does that work? 1916 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:13,840 Well, and it's also it's fascinating because in in in one 1917 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,240 match up, according to this, you know, long time in the future 1918 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,160 projection, it would Harry Lyles junior's projection would have 1919 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,560 it be Georgia versus Indiana in the College Football Playoff 1920 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,920 first round. And Bill Connelly would have. 1921 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,560 Because of course he would. Tennessee versus Indiana in the 1922 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,240 College Football Playoff? First a Gator. 1923 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,800 Bowl a Gator Bowl a Gator Bowl rematch. 1924 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,200 Oh my God, I'm not sure my heart could handle it. 1925 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,120 But anyway, all right, we, we've gone long enough. 1926 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,800 We'll go ahead and wrap up for this week. 1927 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,680 A lot of programming coming up later on in the week, so be sure 1928 01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,480 to tune in. We've got Bison chat on Tuesday 1929 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:48,080 night. It'll be night this time, 1930 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,880 normally 6:30 PM. We're going to bump it forward. 1931 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,600 We're aiming for about a 930 start Eastern Time on Bison 1932 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:55,680 Chat. So if you haven't watched the 1933 01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,360 Tuesday night Bison chat yet, TuneIn, it'll be live. 1934 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,000 We'll have the stream on the back home network YouTube feed. 1935 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,920 We'll also have a tweet that'll go out on X about it. 1936 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,880 So set your calendars to that myself, Joe Cronin, Emily Fox 1937 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,560 producing that. We'll have some special guests 1938 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:11,640 this week. Should be a lot of fun. 1939 01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,960 Crimson Cash coming out Thursday of next week or Friday of next 1940 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:17,000 week. Scott, probably, probably 1941 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:17,880 Thursday. OK. 1942 01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:19,840 And then we. Might be able to grab one more 1943 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,920 podcast before we get on Crimson cash. 1944 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,240 We started a new segment just because Indiana's been doing so 1945 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,120 well call to the Hoosier hot streak. 1946 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,520 So every week James is betting Indiana and then Cat adding a 1947 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,200 team parlay. So this week we bet Indiana 1948 01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,240 money line, Michigan money line. We won. 1949 01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,360 And so next week he's got to add 2 teams to it. 1950 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,240 We're just going to see how many he can stack in a row and then 1951 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,400 we'll go back if he, if he, you know, shoots craps out. 1952 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,600 But I, I think, you know, if you're listening, you're making 1953 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,640 some money in these parlays and it's fun betting with Indiana 1954 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,280 because right now it's. We're all on a hot streak, so 1955 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,680 check out that and check out the entire rest of the line up on 1956 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,960 the back home network. We got basketball talk starting 1957 01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,440 up once again as practices started this week. 1958 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,120 The start of the season, at least on the pre season level, 1959 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,200 only a month away, which is hard to get your head wrapped around. 1960 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,120 So all of that and more coming up this week on the back home 1961 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:08,640 network. We appreciate you folks tuning 1962 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,120 in once again. Indiana victorious 4228 over the 1963 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,040 Maryland Terrapins 5 and O on the season. 1964 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,600 They face Northwestern this upcoming week. 1965 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,000 My thanks to you, Scott, As always, a pleasure. 1966 01:34:18,440 --> 01:34:21,520 Thanks to all you folks that we met all throughout the weekend. 1967 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,520 Really appreciate you folks coming up and saying hi for 1968 01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:25,440 Scott. I'm Galen. 1969 01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:26,840 This is Crimson cast. We'll catch you folks. 1970 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,960 On the flip side, bring back the bison. 1971 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,080 Stay. Never daunted. 1972 01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:35,000 So long, everybody. Goodbye YouTube.