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You're listening to the back 
home network presented by home 

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Welcome back to Crimson Cask ale

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and Claudia Scott Caulfield 
joining. 

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Yes, Timber 11th 2022 Indiana's,
2 and 0 in football. 

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Maybe we should just leave it at
that. 

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Scott, what do you say? 
Will podcast to get in 2020? 

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This is fun. 
Yeah, we're we got a lot to talk

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about but we're not going to go 
overly long because I just don't

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know at this point what exactly 
to say, and it's funny because I

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was worried as I went to bed 
last night largely because of 

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this podcast, I was like, I got 
to come up with something 

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interesting to say and surely, I
am the only one struggling with 

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this and yet, I pick up the 
paper today and, you know, I'm 

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reading the Indy star coverage 
and some other Average, I didn't

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actually physically pick up a 
paper. 

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I mean, what is this 1995? 
But but I realized that it feels

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like your morning. 
You have your morning cocktail. 

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I did. 
Yes, I, yes, I did. 

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I flipped on, you know, CNBC and
well, you know, just smoked a 

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Chesterfield. 
Yeah. 

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Chester, I said, 1995 not 1959. 
But I realized after reading our

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friends it was a costume and 
dusted to appear. 

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I could feels like nobody really
knows exactly what to Day after 

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this game. 
And so I don't feel so bad about

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myself now, but we'll try to get
our feelings in order throughout

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and Scott. 
It's good to see you. 

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You made what ended up being a 
very wise meteorological 

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decision. 
Not to come to the game 

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yesterday. 
How are you doing? 

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I'm dry. 
I'm I'm doing doing very well. 

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Yeah, we're doing great. 
We stayed here? 

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We will be in for next week's 
game. 

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We will be tailgating I got the 
Weber Q, have it all set up, 

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ready to rock and roll. 
I'm gonna take some pictures 

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Galen help be with a little 
tailgating experience. 

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I want to hear about your 
experience at the game, but, no,

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we, I my watching of the game 
was a little bit messed up. 

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We had our first Like official 
sleepover with another kid with 

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my, my oldest son and it's it's 
bizarre just taking it one step 

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off here, being the parent in 
the sleepover game. 

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Where I'm so used to being the 
kid out, what being as a kid had

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done many sleepovers, the kid 
haven't done them. 

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A while. 
It's been weird. 

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Like it was just wild going down
there and be like, alright, 

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boys. 
Time to go to bed and it's like 

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it's just so bizarre Being the 
adult in that situation. 

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But they were they were in 
messed up. 

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Our I was going to grill out for
them and then the rain came up 

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here in Westfield and so we had 
a grill burgers inside. 

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We're watching the game, both 
the boys. 

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Like, man, that looks wet. 
Let's go play video games or is 

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there out, but so we had that 
the background. 

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But yes, fun night good. 
Well this reminder folks that we

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was Craig Davis, you know, said 
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it on the podcast last time. 
So that's great. 

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We love to hear that. 
And look, there's new stuff 

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coming out all the time. 
But you know, we always talk 

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about the new stuff Scott. 
There's so much stuff already 

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Have missed and and you can get 

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I don't know if you folks have 
noticed, but we are now in the 

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second third of September, it's 
going to start getting a little 

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chilly eventually out there. 
You need a crew neck. 

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You need a hoodie. 
You probably need two or three 

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crew necks or hoodies. 
This is the place to go for 

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them. 
They will change your opinions. 

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I used to not like hoodies 
because they were always kind 

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of, they were too tight and they
were made of not, you know, like

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that. 
Par fabric from like Champion or

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you know whoever was the 
manufacturer and home-field 

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hoodies like completely changed 
my perception of what a hoodie 

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could be Scott. 
I don't know about you but I'm 

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I've it was it's been an 
enlightening / lightning process

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for me. 
So folks check out home field 

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having bought there for 15 

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percent and quick. 
Shout out to the James buyers 

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who I've always talked about 
Marshall hoodie being my 

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favorite, we didn't realize it 
home-field was actually picking 

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winners as well. 
It gets its emerging Crimson 

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cash with my love. 
You Marshall beating Notre Dame 

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and I went and looked on their 
site, they have Appalachian 

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State, they have Georgia, 
Southern they have Washington 

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State. 
So all of the teams that kind of

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upset yesterday they have. 
So maybe home feels awesome, 

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like maybe. 
Well, you're betting based on 

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who home-field apparel has in 
their gear locker, and that's 

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what you bet on. 
Yes, there. 

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It's like the Book of 
Revelations in apparel form for 

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caught well, because it felt 
like me, Yesterday, felt like 

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the apocalypse for sub teams in 
college football. 

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The most was that way for 
Indiana. 

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Just thinking of the next 
marketing campaign for home 

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field like, oh, it's so 
comfortable like this hoodie. 

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I've had, like, it's like the 
Book of Revelations. 

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How to put that on your own. 
Connor Connor walking down the 

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side of a mountain holding to 
hoodies one in each hand. 

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That's right. 
Georgia. 

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Southern Marshall of, it's like,
it's great. 

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I bring to you roxette's. 
Anyway. 

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So, let's talk about Indiana, 
who did not get upset, It. 

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But who managed to upset a lot 
of people last night as before 

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we get to that. 
Give me the tailgate experience.

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Well David's probative. 
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is actually where it ends 
because we had some childcare 

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issues that happened right 
around the start of the game 

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which led to there was a well 
what happened was the game got 

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delayed and it was so wet at the
tailgate that both me and my 

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wife got like, entirely. 
And then we had, we had kids at 

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a sleepover that wasn't at our 
house and then those one of the 

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kids had to come back. 
And so I never got to go into 

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the game. 
I got right up to the start and 

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end up having to come home. 
So my hat is off to everybody 

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that actually did make it in 
there and I was I was a little 

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miffed. 
I couldn't go in although then I

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watched as the weather continued
to devolve throughout the course

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of the evening and I was like a 
maybe that wasn't that bad of a 

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solution to things and, you 
know, It's so it's I that I will

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say the tailgate was great up 
until the rain. 

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Really started to come down 
heavy, it was kind of lightly 

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sprinkling for a while and I we 
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everything was hopping there. 
You know, cooked to really nice 

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meals. 
We did a whole taco bar for the 

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second meal for the, for the 
dinner meal. 

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And fortunately, got all the 
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You know, we have a TV going 
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Then, the rains really started 
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essentially it turned into like 
a refugee situation at that 

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point with everybody huddling 
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Fortunately we had a second 
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that joined us. 
You couldn't go anywhere like it

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was raining so hard. 
I was driving. 

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I did not make it to the 
Virginia game back in what was 

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that? 
2018, the hurricane game but but

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it was it was similar. 
The wind wasn't that bad but the

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rain was just ridiculous. 
And I think this game And that 

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Virginia game and probably that 
Michigan game from the end of 

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2019 like are now in the, the, 
the pantheon of bad weather 

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tailgates that we've had this 
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At least we got a good 6 hours 
in before stuff really went bad,

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okay? 
So you didn't go in, sorry, I 

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remember that Michigan game, 
that was rough know, it looked 

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it looks bad and then, you know,
of course I have. 

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Anyway, I'd friends like sending
me pictures of the stadium 

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empty, like, oh, well good, I 
you gave me think it's raining 

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like, It's like yeah. 
Now then and there and this is 

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one of those, it's like it's an 
FCS opponent, it's 8:35 for the 

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kick as opposed to eight. 
Although it's funny it even with

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a 35 minute delay, the game got 
over before the Illinois game, 

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got over the previous week 
everybody's like keeping it like

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a telescope. 
Yeah but it was I mean the 

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weather was just it was not 
great. 

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I give every ounce of credit in 
the world to the people who 

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actually sat through that 
throughout the entire for even 

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even if you only sat through 
eighth to a After I give you a 

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whole bunch of credit for going 
out there and you know, I yeah. 

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So anyway that was the scene and
I don't think anybody can blame 

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anybody for how they handled 
that. 

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But let's talk about the game 
itself is Indiana was 

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unfortunately just bad for a 
large portion of this game, 

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didn't score in the first half 
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Nothing to Idaho looked pretty 
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Like completely incapable of 
doing anything noteworthy, and 

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this was not just an offense 
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thing. 
It was pretty much every phase 

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of the game and missed two field
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They couldn't do past coverage, 
it seemed like hardly at all, 

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you know, and even Idaho's 
rushing attack, while it kind of

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ground to a halt later. 
They were picking up chunks of 

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yardage in that first half. 
It was probably, you know, a 

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when you factor in the level of 
the opponent, it was probably 

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maybe the worst half. 
I've seen Indiana play. 

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I mean, yes, they've had some 
real stinkers against like a 

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Michigan or an Ohio State, but 
to play that bad in the first 

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half and I saw people like 
attributing the issues to the 

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weather or doing two balls. 
Wet as I both, both teams are in

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the same way. 
Both teams are using the same 

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ball somehow I do is able to 
score 10 points, but it really 

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look like Indiana. 
I can't tell one of one of our 

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friends texted me, you know, 
feels like I, you pulled back 

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too much. 
Not wanting to. 

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So a whole lot on the field and 
then realize they had to get 

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things together and ramp it up 
again and because I mean they 

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did play well in the second half
for the most part it wasn't 

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great but it was certainly 
better. 

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They score 20 to 23 points. 
In the third quarter, en route 

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to a 3522 Victory. 
They did start to really click 

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on offense, the running game got
going, but man, I mean hard to 

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wash the taste of the first half
out of your mouth. 

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Scott, what were your 
perceptions from? 

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Watching it on television. 
It's funny. 

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You also, I also had a similar 
feeling. 

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I'm like, what do I say about 
this game? 

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On the podcast today. 
So podcast listeners Gail and I 

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were both, you're keeping us up 
at on Saturday nights to me 

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there's like five outcomes of 
how a game like this could go. 

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And unfortunately I you did 
three of them. 

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One outcome is we just lay the 
wood to Idaho and it's like, you

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know, a complete drubbing, you 
know, like what Michigan state 

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did to act. 
Like you're 53 is 0, that didn't

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happen the other. 
Is like what happened with, you 

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know, Nebraska and Georgia 
Southern where you get into a 

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dogfight and then you lose that 
one also didn't happen. 

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But then the other three kind of
all happened in this game is 

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that you have the, you know, 
really getting letting a an FCS 

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opponent just play out. 
Play you for a while. 

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We have that in the first half 
where it's like 10 nothing it's 

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kind of getting close to that 
like oh my God we're going to 

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lose the Idaho game. 
You have that for a half knot 

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just like two or three minutes 
or a couple drives you have For 

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a half. 
Then you have the, the the 

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second half where it's like, are
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kicking their butts, which is 
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you also have the hey, we're up 
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Now we're going to add our foot 
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going to score on their last two
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You also had that where if we 
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just reversed everything, let me
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nine to nothing and then the 
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Be talking about like all right.
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their foot off the gas, they did
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like it's, it's tough, you know?
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It's like they did three of the 
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Handle it in lose. 
Thank goodness. 

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They had that moment where they 
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to let their foot off the gas as
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So it's tough. 
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like I said, going into this, 
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stats out of this like I can 
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You look at Stephen Carr had 118
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level again, except for the 
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it's like I don't have a hard 
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100, it's like I don't know how 
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What is real is getting blanked 
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buy cough does the postgame show
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about, just a win, is a win. 
It's all right. 

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suffering some identity crisis 
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Kind of a struggle of confidence
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perspective, Not That Matters to
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But you know, for a team that's 
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sour taste last year. 
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if they would have gotten up, 
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like, all right, you know what, 
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and they wake up. 
As one's got a little the foot 

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off the gas. 
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wet. 
Its Idaho cares being down, 10, 

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nothing. 
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people like, I'm done, like, I 
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Like, it's almost like, they 
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lot of people like it 10. 
Nothing. 

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I have friends. 
Who aren't I? 

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You fans only texted me, a bunch
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I got, you're the next one to go
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Like, you know, you and Notre 
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And the baskets are like 
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is not over but, you know, and 
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situation, how you win a game 
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versus just winning the game, 
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I'm not sure how much I want to 
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stats, based on that. 
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But man, it wasn't like they 
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go for an entire half and I 
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concerning is, you can Overlook 
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prepared but where the skill 
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If Indiana really is, you know, 
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know, is who they are. 
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comments, you know, Dennis 
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are who they are, you know, 
then, Then okay, the overlooking

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not being ready with balls like 
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Could go for a drive or two but 
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able to lock in at least right 
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But they weren't able to do that
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concerning because if you just 
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Maryland or Rutgers, you're not 
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back in the second half, so 
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the big themes that we talked 
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pre-season podcasts was that we 
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with Tom Allen and this Indiana 
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Yes. 
And this didn't help this did 

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not help. 
And this is where I mean 

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everything. 
You just said 100% agree with 

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everything that I read that. 
You know, it's like, Zack 

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austrians column this morning. 
To paraphrase, was basically 

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about, well, if this helps 
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the events of the first half. 
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Find the their fighting Spirit, 
then maybe it was worth it. 

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And if not, it's going to be a 
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argument and you know, maybe 
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understand Ken's argument about 
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But again like this is a 
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historically over and over again
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real trouble playing 
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week-by-week basis and being 
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Channel about what they're 
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made 2019 and 2020. 
So unique in the history of IU 

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football, was that those teams? 
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couple of times, but, you know, 
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you always felt good about those
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They don't always play great all
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professional job in most of 
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And I just haven't seen it the 
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so far, like it was completely 
off. 

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The table last year and it's 
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this year. 
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like Indiana versus Idaho, it's 
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to get their butts kicked all 
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read about them, you know, Alan 
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them in the locker room at 
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And that it just illustrates to 
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conservative or maybe 
pessimistic side of eating wins 

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and losses for this team, which 
this is Scott. 

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I'm talking to here who was more
pessimistic. 

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You were probably accurate 
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what we've seen yes they be do 
annoying at home, barely. 

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Yes, they've beat Idaho after 
falling behind 10. 

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Nothing in the first half. 
It's hard to really Envision 

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this team suddenly developing a 
professional approach to 

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football and the executional 
ability in blocking in pass 

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coverage. 
And some of these other things, 

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It's going to lead to a bunch of
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that every week. 
Anyway, you know, I mean this is

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It's and that's what's 
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anything else. 
Is that? 

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Yes, I understand the ball was 
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can't be 5 for 15 in the first 
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And I mean, I got news for 
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Have you been in the midwest in 
the fall before the weather is 

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often? 
Not great, that's not an excuse.

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This was not a weather thing. 
This was a we don't seem to care

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enough to play football the 
right way and it showed on the 

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scoreboard for that first half 
and look, they get credit for 

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coming back and fixing it in the
second half but I don't think 

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they get that much credit 
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in that position in the first 
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is still got a long way to go in
my opinion or maybe Tom Allen 

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has just been right this whole 
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Idaho knew who our quarterback 
was. 

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Death of our plays me, they knew
our depth chart and they're 

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like, who's coming in? 
Like we do bait. 

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We're paying blades, base lack? 
Like this is sorry. 

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My alarms going off, high-class 
podcasting. 

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But now, they know we're playing
bass. 

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Like so it's like, you know, 
maybe every week, who is he to 

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go to the transfer portal, get a
whole new team and not let them 

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know who were playing or I mean,
is it possible? 

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Instead of that, that perhaps we
could just play one game 

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Seasons. 
So, you know, just can set of 12

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games, could we be the college 
football? 

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Team. 
And it's like every every year 

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we play one game and I think, 
you know, you're right now. 

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But in all seriousness, it's 
this was one of those games and 

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when I talked about it in the 
pregame podcast it's like it's 

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whenever you're playing a team 
like this. 

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It's really not that much about 
the opponent. 

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If you're a big 10 team that's 
got some level of quality. 

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Now, we've certainly seen 
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talentless me, some of those 
those mid-2000s teams. 

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Thales is overstating it. 
But those teams were struggling 

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to beat FCS opponents and they 
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really lowest rungs of division 
one at times. 

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That's my, my concern is that, 
you know, this is really about 

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you as a football program and 
And last year, we were a little 

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bit underwhelmed. 
By the way, Indiana played 

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Idaho. 
And that was, it was a little 

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bit of a warning Bell that went 
off. 

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Especially after that Iowa game 
to start the season. 

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It was like, gosh, they, you 
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they felt kind of unimpressive 
on offense, like we need to see 

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more. 
Imagine like, you know, take 

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that feeling and double it. 
And that's kind of where you're 

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at coming out of this Idaho 
game. 

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Yes, Indiana has a healthy 
quarterback and they didn't send

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it look like they suffered a lot
of injuries but this is You just

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worry about the spirit of this 
IU team if knowing what happened

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last year and knowing what they 
had to do last week to get ready

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for that. 
If they took their they're not 

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like they're just not at the 
point where they can take their 

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foot off the gas to that degree 
and actually be successful. 

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And again, look, I'm it appears 
Tom, Allen is cognizant of the 

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problem. 
It appears that the coaching 

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staff is cognizant of the 
problem, but it's still a 

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problem and that's a real 
concern and it goes back to 

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that. 
Question about what is the 

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culture of this IU football? 
At this point and this is where 

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it's tough to overreact or not 
overreact. 

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And you really only the only way
we know is, okay, we got to wait

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until next week and see how they
perform in that game. 

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And that's what makes this so 
frustrating and so hard to talk 

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about because I'm not going to 
go off the rails. 

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I don't it's like reading some 
of the stuff from the Notre Dame

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media after they lost to 
Marshall, I mean, they're, 

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they're pulling the fuses out of
the box right now and they're 

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freaking out about Marcus 
Freeman and they're freaking out

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about like who are these 
players? 

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I mean, I feel like we did that 
last year with this IU team and 

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now it's kind of a well, okay, 
show us why we should reinvest 

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emotionally. 
And, you know, the old annoy win

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was nice. 
We talked about there were a lot

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of flaws. 
There were a lot of issues that 

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were easily observable in that 
game, and we gave Indiana credit

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for overcoming them to come back
out and have another performance

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where there's a lot of things to
pick through it. 

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Just I just, I, it's hard to 
reinvest seeing that and feeling

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like, You've got at least a 50% 
chance. 

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This is going to go down a dark 
Road. 

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It's funny. 
You mention that Notre Dame 

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side. 
It's like then there's a 

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Nebraska side. 
Who was like, is it October 1st 

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yet? 
That's all. 

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We're. 
What is a buyout lower? 

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Like this is really not going. 
Well, we're not going to worry 

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too much but no it's you know, 
if this game had been and this 

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is where I have a hard time 
taking anything away from this 

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game because all the good things
happen in the second half and 

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it's kind of a, you know, riddle
wrapped in an enigma wrapped in 

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a you know sweater to quote the 
symptoms Simpsons is. 

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Because we made a bunch of 
adjustments in the second half 

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or is it because we're just a 
bigger better team. 

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And, you know, we were able to 
do things by just sheer will of 

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like over time that you know, I 
do just got tired and they threw

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in some of their backups because
that would be what we were 

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saying if this game happened. 
But let's say we were playing, 

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you know, Michigan, and we were 
up on Michigan 10. 

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Nothing in the Michigan. 
Came back and scored, 29 against

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us. 
I mean, that's kind of, we've 

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had a lot of big ten games like 
that. 

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And on our, on our I'd we always
say, well, you know, at some 

447
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,500
point, you know, just the size 
and the scale of a team like, 

448
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:23,500
Michigan is just going to, you 
know, exert its will against a 

449
00:23:23,508 --> 00:23:25,300
team like Indiana. 
You can't hold them at Bay that 

450
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:28,200
long. 
The same could be said here and,

451
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,700
you know that that's concerning 
because if you go with that 

452
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:34,800
route, it's like, all right, 
when these teams were both 

453
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,600
playing their best and, you 
know, had all of their starters 

454
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,500
in and we're fully functional, 
you know, Indiana went punt, 

455
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,100
field goal missed, you know, 
down off on Downs, a fumble Punt

456
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:50,700
an interception for 120 yards in
the first half. 

457
00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:52,900
Like that's what you got. 
All the first happens, the team 

458
00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:56,300
that we are both concerned about
the running in the first half, 

459
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,200
this would have been a great 
game to get some running things 

460
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,300
going, they didn't do it until 
the second half and that's where

461
00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:02,400
it's like I don't know if that 
second half running is because 

462
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,700
Idaho got tired and we're into 
their second string players or 

463
00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:08,400
if we figured some things out, 
but even if we did it's like it 

464
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800
shouldn't be hard to figure 
things out against Idaho. 

465
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,900
The passing yards were down, but
this is where I will say that 

466
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:16,300
this is you passing is going to 
be hard and the game. 

467
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,100
Like this. 
So I'm not going to be too too 

468
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:21,600
tough on it, but the 
interception was on an overthrow

469
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,600
which we saw a lot of in the 
Illinois game. 

470
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:27,400
So yeah, it's again, I'm not 
like you. 

471
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,800
I think you said it best in the 
preseason. 

472
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,700
Like we have trust issues. 
And so, this is really as a fan,

473
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:36,400
like, I'm not going to go nuts. 
I'm happy. 

474
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600
We won. 
It's way better than losing had 

475
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,600
we lost again. 
I'm not sure. 

476
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,900
I would have gone nuts. 
It would have been like. 

477
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,000
All right. 
Well, this is, this is not good.

478
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,400
This is, I thought it was going 
to be bad. 

479
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,200
This is worse than I thought. 
This is kind of unfortunately 

480
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,600
where I thought we would be and 
as a fan as a podcaster, as a 

481
00:24:53,608 --> 00:24:57,200
man, as a father of a sleepover 
kid, like I'm in the spot where 

482
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,100
it's like you just to this team 
that you've got to just show me.

483
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,700
Like you've got to show me that 
you can be like you said 

484
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,300
professional you can put it 
together that you figured some 

485
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:07,700
things out. 
You can come out against Western

486
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:11,200
Michigan or Western Kentucky, 
sorry and play a full game that 

487
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,200
you can beat maybe marylander 
Rutgers. 

488
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,600
You know, I'm really just kind 
of sitting back and And it's 

489
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,000
like, it's like, hey, I saw you 
in that car with that, dude, it 

490
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,100
was a Corvette like, you told me
wasn't anything, but it's like, 

491
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,400
I'm I'm still very nervous and I
just want to see you know, how 

492
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,900
the rest of the evening goes. 
Well, that's where I'm just 

493
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,600
like, I'm not going too far off 
the rails but it's like, I'm, 

494
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,800
I'm concerned. 
I feel like I have a reason to 

495
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,100
be concerned and now it's like 
I'm going to sit back and wait 

496
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,500
and like uiu football needs to 
show me why I'm not wrong. 

497
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,300
And they got a real chance to do
it next week and but it's 

498
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:44,800
either. 
You look at Western Kentucky. 

499
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,800
Western Kentucky has scored 38 
points and 49 points in the 

500
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800
first two games. 
They've, if they played in FCS 

501
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,100
opponent in Austin Peay they 
played at Hawaii, they won both 

502
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:59,800
games and they scored more 
points in each of the games than

503
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,300
Indiana has scored in either of 
their games. 

504
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:08,100
It it just makes you concerned 
because the offense this was and

505
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,900
you know last year We you know, 
when we talked about that game 

506
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:15,100
versus Iowa, it was well let's 
see if the offense can get 

507
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:18,300
itself on track because it 
looked really bad against Iowa 

508
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,700
and to their credit, they scored
56 points and it's like, okay, 

509
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,900
the offense could be good. 
The offense could score points. 

510
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,900
We didn't see that against Idaho
this time and yes, I know there 

511
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:28,800
was mitigating circumstances 
perhaps due to weather but still

512
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,500
you score. 35 points, you run. 
Maybe the worst collection of 

513
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:36,900
two point conversion plays. 
I think I've ever seen that. 

514
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,800
Don't have a lot of confidence 
on that front moving Forward you

515
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,800
know, but you're you now, you 
know the training wheels come 

516
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,600
off this season and you've got a
Western Kentucky team that looks

517
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,100
like a live wire on offense as 
Indiana shown on defense that 

518
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,800
they're going to be capable of 
making Western Kentucky play 

519
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,600
their game. 
I don't think so. 

520
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,500
You know, you've got a 
Cincinnati team after that, who 

521
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,600
lost their first week game to 
Arkansas. 

522
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,800
And then came back against an 
FCS opponent, in Kennesaw State,

523
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,700
and throttled them this past. 
Beating them 63 210. 

524
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,300
You know these these FCS games 
are always a bit peculiar 

525
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,200
because you you know you get you
know some teams just not being 

526
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,800
fully into it and we certainly 
saw, you know, games against 

527
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,900
lower level competition trip up,
a bunch of big teams, but you 

528
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:28,000
just don't have that you don't 
have that. 

529
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,400
Luxury is Indiana to not use 
these opportunities to assert 

530
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,900
your dominance and now I think 
you to some degree in this. 

531
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,900
Why I keep coming back to the 
psyche this team? 

532
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,300
Are you doubting yourself a bit 
after struggling with Idaho for 

533
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:43,700
a half? 
And then as you said, letting 

534
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,900
your foot off the gas in the 
fourth quarter and letting them 

535
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:49,800
score double-digit points 
because if you are you got some 

536
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,400
real problems. 
Not just with these next two 

537
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,100
games but what you are facing 
for the rest of the season. 

538
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,400
So anyway, it's hard to know 
what else to say about it. 

539
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,500
I mean, obviously I think it's 
nice to see that. 

540
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,900
Sean Shrivers finally had a good
game. 

541
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000
You know, his only game too, but
as bad as the running game 

542
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,100
looked last week and really is 
How does it look for the first 

543
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:13,400
half of this week? 
He finishes with 20 carries 155 

544
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,100
yards, seven point eight yards 
per carry has a touchdown as a 

545
00:28:17,108 --> 00:28:21,400
long run of 46, which was that 
touchdown even Josh Henderson 

546
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
came in and rushed 8.3 yards a 
carry, that's good. 

547
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,400
I like seeing that it certainly 
didn't look like that was what 

548
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800
was going to happen in the first
half but the fact that those two

549
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,300
guys were able to rush for that 
degree. 

550
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,600
To fact, Indiana finished with a
6.6 yard, you know, average per 

551
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,300
Rush. 
That's a good thing. 

552
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,800
You know, and look, it was not a
day for the passing game, but I 

553
00:28:42,808 --> 00:28:45,200
liked what I saw at a DJ 
Matthews on that drive. 

554
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,000
When he caught the touchdown 
pass, I liked what I saw at AJ 

555
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Barner, you know, it Donovan. 
McCulley got involved in a 

556
00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:54,200
couple of ways ran into 
touchdown. 

557
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Had a nice catch on a slant 
pattern. 

558
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,200
So look, there are some some 
positive signs to take out of 

559
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,700
this. 
It just it feels like 

560
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,000
offensively. 
This team still doesn't quite 

561
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,100
know what it's supposed to do 
which is probably something that

562
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,500
was going to happen with a 
Offensive coordinator anyway, 

563
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:12,600
but there's just very little 
time. 

564
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Now, you hope that they were a 
lot further along than they are 

565
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,000
at this point particularly when 
it comes to the blocking and the

566
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,100
timing between basil a canned is
receivers defensively. 

567
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:27,100
I mean I gotta say this like the
guy that stands out for me is 

568
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:31,400
des on mcculloh like he's been, 
he looks really really good out 

569
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,000
there and that's a really nice 
thing to see you know, Jaylyn 

570
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,500
Williams had a really good game 
cam Jones at another really good

571
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:38,900
game. 
Aaron Casey does. 

572
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Nerves. 
I think some special mention as 

573
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,300
well, you know. 
So, look there again, it's not 

574
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:45,300
all negative. 
There are some positives, you 

575
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,700
are seeing some individual 
performances looking good. 

576
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,800
I just worry because you just 
just feels like we've seen this 

577
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,500
script for my you football 
before and I hope that somehow 

578
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,000
it takes a different turn from 
what we normally would 

579
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,500
anticipate coming off of a game 
like this. 

580
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Yeah, the only other thing I 
would say to keep an eye on is, 

581
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,200
you know what made the Indiana 
defense? 

582
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,600
So unique in 2019 and then 
especially 2020 was, it was 

583
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,300
good, but it really feasted on, 
you know, takeaways fumbles 

584
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:21,000
interceptions. 
And, you know, it's concerning 

585
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,900
that in a game against Idaho, 
where again, it's like, you 

586
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:26,600
don't get it both ways if the 
conditions are so bad and it's 

587
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,600
so tough to hang on to the ball.
Why is Idaho? 

588
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,400
The only one that gets a fun? 
Full recovery and interception, 

589
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,200
and Indiana, walks with no 
turnovers. 

590
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,000
Like, that is, that's 
concerning, I have to go back 

591
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,500
and look at the numbers and 
2020. 

592
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,700
I think they got a turnover like
an every game. 

593
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:44,100
I mean, they were creating 
turnovers all over the place and

594
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,900
that was one of the questions 
going into 2021 is like, is that

595
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,400
replicatable? 
And never even like Josh Perry 

596
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,500
came on with me and like, you 
know, we talked about, he's 

597
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:55,500
like, yeah, you you learn those 
skills and like you know, some 

598
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,800
of it is luck but the putting 
yourself in the right position 

599
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,300
and obviously it wasn't totally 
replicatable in 2021 and That's 

600
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:03,600
another thing that's just 
concerning from this game just 

601
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,000
to keep an eye on is if you're 
going to beat teams like Western

602
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,700
Kentucky or Cincinnati coming 
up, you're probably going to 

603
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,300
need one or two times where the 
you know, I think it's fair to 

604
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,800
say we're not going to have an 
explosive offense, just going to

605
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,400
put up 48 points and so it's 
like you're going to need the 

606
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,600
defense to come in and do a pick
six or flip the field. 

607
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,900
When you know Cincinnati's 
driving or Western Kentucky is 

608
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,000
driving and and thus fought that
the fact that they couldn't 

609
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Force any Any real turnovers on 
Idaho? 

610
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800
Yeah, Idaho Force to is like 
that's that is also a little bit

611
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,300
concerning. 
Yeah. 

612
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,500
I mean, at this point I mean, 
you know, you know that's a good

613
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,700
point and there's not a whole 
lot else to say about it. 

614
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,100
I don't think so. 
So anyway, we'll see. 

615
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,500
We've got some pregame stuff to 
talk about this week is Indiana 

616
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:53,100
takes on Western Kentucky, 
that's a noon kick. 

617
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:56,100
So after two straight, I know 
nice to get off. 

618
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,900
The eight pm game. 
We will have podcasts coming up 

619
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,100
this week. 
Crimson cash will be back again.

620
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,400
As you guys talk through some 
bedding. 

621
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400
How did that? 
How did they have any big? 

622
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,900
Takeaways from this past week, 
no, James hit it on the, the 

623
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:14,300
Iowa State, Iowa game. 
That was a he so he makes me bet

624
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,100
10 bucks. 
Every sinner has make me, I'd 

625
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,000
gladly bet 10 bucks, but it's on
James's recommendation. 

626
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,800
We are to know. 
I had a couple parlays that did 

627
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,600
not hit, but I think he was big 
on Georgia Southern covering we,

628
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,300
he's been doing very well thus 
far in a lot of if this was this

629
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,900
was a tough week. 
I mean there were some just 

630
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:38,200
Bonkers lines out there some 
very high lines But yeah he I'm 

631
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,200
to know with him this week, so 
we're going with Jane anyway, we

632
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,100
will be back later this week 
Crimson cash coming up on 

633
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,700
Thursday and then we'll also do 
our pregame podcast, not sure 

634
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,100
who we're going to have on that 
yet, but we'll figure that out. 

635
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,700
As Indiana, kind of rolls 
forward here, the Hoosiers to 

636
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:58,500
know and that is something that 
yeah, we should celebrate. 

637
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,400
And we're, yeah, four more to go
as and, you know, hopefully, 

638
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,500
there was enough good that came 
out of the Idaho game and maybe 

639
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:10,100
Realize that there's an attitude
and an approach that has to be 

640
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,500
taken. 
That helps them to get to that a

641
00:33:11,508 --> 00:33:13,800
little bit easier than before, 
but we'll see what happens. 

642
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,500
So, anyway, Scott has always a 
pleasure. 

643
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,900
Good luck with the Remain. 
The the remnants of the 

644
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:23,800
sleepover, and I'm sure you'll, 
you'll pass your parental duties

645
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,600
with flying colors here. 
Anyway, on the pancakes. 

646
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,900
There you go. 
On the pancakes. 

647
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Thanks for listening, folks, 
will be back later on this week.

648
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,800
With more podcasting about IU 
football, bring back the Bison. 

649
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,900
Catch you. folks on the flip 
side for everybody,