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Yes, Timber 11th 2022 Indiana's, 2 and 0 in football.
Maybe we should just leave it at that.
Scott, what do you say? Will podcast to get in 2020?
This is fun. Yeah, we're we got a lot to talk
about but we're not going to go overly long because I just don't
know at this point what exactly to say, and it's funny because I
was worried as I went to bed last night largely because of
this podcast, I was like, I got to come up with something
interesting to say and surely, I am the only one struggling with
this and yet, I pick up the paper today and, you know, I'm
reading the Indy star coverage and some other Average, I didn't
actually physically pick up a paper.
I mean, what is this 1995? But but I realized that it feels
like your morning. You have your morning cocktail.
I did. Yes, I, yes, I did.
I flipped on, you know, CNBC and well, you know, just smoked a
Chesterfield. Yeah.
Chester, I said, 1995 not 1959. But I realized after reading our
friends it was a costume and dusted to appear.
I could feels like nobody really knows exactly what to Day after
this game. And so I don't feel so bad about
myself now, but we'll try to get our feelings in order throughout
and Scott. It's good to see you.
You made what ended up being a very wise meteorological
decision. Not to come to the game
yesterday. How are you doing?
I'm dry. I'm I'm doing doing very well.
Yeah, we're doing great. We stayed here?
We will be in for next week's game.
We will be tailgating I got the Weber Q, have it all set up,
ready to rock and roll. I'm gonna take some pictures
Galen help be with a little tailgating experience.
I want to hear about your experience at the game, but, no,
we, I my watching of the game was a little bit messed up.
We had our first Like official sleepover with another kid with
my, my oldest son and it's it's bizarre just taking it one step
off here, being the parent in the sleepover game.
Where I'm so used to being the kid out, what being as a kid had
done many sleepovers, the kid haven't done them.
A while. It's been weird.
Like it was just wild going down there and be like, alright,
boys. Time to go to bed and it's like
it's just so bizarre Being the adult in that situation.
But they were they were in messed up.
Our I was going to grill out for them and then the rain came up
here in Westfield and so we had a grill burgers inside.
We're watching the game, both the boys.
Like, man, that looks wet. Let's go play video games or is
there out, but so we had that the background.
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So, let's talk about Indiana, who did not get upset, It.
But who managed to upset a lot of people last night as before
we get to that. Give me the tailgate experience.
Well David's probative. And the the tailgate experience
is actually where it ends because we had some childcare
issues that happened right around the start of the game
which led to there was a well what happened was the game got
delayed and it was so wet at the tailgate that both me and my
wife got like, entirely. And then we had, we had kids at
a sleepover that wasn't at our house and then those one of the
kids had to come back. And so I never got to go into
the game. I got right up to the start and
end up having to come home. So my hat is off to everybody
that actually did make it in there and I was I was a little
miffed. I couldn't go in although then I
watched as the weather continued to devolve throughout the course
of the evening and I was like a maybe that wasn't that bad of a
solution to things and, you know, It's so it's I that I will
say the tailgate was great up until the rain.
Really started to come down heavy, it was kind of lightly
sprinkling for a while and I we had the Blackstone out,
everything was hopping there. You know, cooked to really nice
meals. We did a whole taco bar for the
second meal for the, for the dinner meal.
And fortunately, got all the food cooked and everything.
You know, we have a TV going with a generator, it was great.
Then, the rains really started to come down And it just
essentially it turned into like a refugee situation at that
point with everybody huddling under to canopies.
Fortunately we had a second canopy from some other folks
that joined us. You couldn't go anywhere like it
was raining so hard. I was driving.
I did not make it to the Virginia game back in what was
that? 2018, the hurricane game but but
it was it was similar. The wind wasn't that bad but the
rain was just ridiculous. And I think this game And that
Virginia game and probably that Michigan game from the end of
2019 like are now in the, the, the pantheon of bad weather
tailgates that we've had this one.
At least we got a good 6 hours in before stuff really went bad,
okay? So you didn't go in, sorry, I
remember that Michigan game, that was rough know, it looked
it looks bad and then, you know, of course I have.
Anyway, I'd friends like sending me pictures of the stadium
empty, like, oh, well good, I you gave me think it's raining
like, It's like yeah. Now then and there and this is
one of those, it's like it's an FCS opponent, it's 8:35 for the
kick as opposed to eight. Although it's funny it even with
a 35 minute delay, the game got over before the Illinois game,
got over the previous week everybody's like keeping it like
a telescope. Yeah but it was I mean the
weather was just it was not great.
I give every ounce of credit in the world to the people who
actually sat through that throughout the entire for even
even if you only sat through eighth to a After I give you a
whole bunch of credit for going out there and you know, I yeah.
So anyway that was the scene and I don't think anybody can blame
anybody for how they handled that.
But let's talk about the game itself is Indiana was
unfortunately just bad for a large portion of this game,
didn't score in the first half down 10.
Nothing to Idaho looked pretty much.
Like completely incapable of doing anything noteworthy, and
this was not just an offense thing, it wasn't just a blocking
thing. It was pretty much every phase
of the game and missed two field goals.
They couldn't do past coverage, it seemed like hardly at all,
you know, and even Idaho's rushing attack, while it kind of
ground to a halt later. They were picking up chunks of
yardage in that first half. It was probably, you know, a
when you factor in the level of the opponent, it was probably
maybe the worst half. I've seen Indiana play.
I mean, yes, they've had some real stinkers against like a
Michigan or an Ohio State, but to play that bad in the first
half and I saw people like attributing the issues to the
weather or doing two balls. Wet as I both, both teams are in
the same way. Both teams are using the same
ball somehow I do is able to score 10 points, but it really
look like Indiana. I can't tell one of one of our
friends texted me, you know, feels like I, you pulled back
too much. Not wanting to.
So a whole lot on the field and then realize they had to get
things together and ramp it up again and because I mean they
did play well in the second half for the most part it wasn't
great but it was certainly better.
They score 20 to 23 points. In the third quarter, en route
to a 3522 Victory. They did start to really click
on offense, the running game got going, but man, I mean hard to
wash the taste of the first half out of your mouth.
Scott, what were your perceptions from?
Watching it on television. It's funny.
You also, I also had a similar feeling.
I'm like, what do I say about this game?
On the podcast today. So podcast listeners Gail and I
were both, you're keeping us up at on Saturday nights to me
there's like five outcomes of how a game like this could go.
And unfortunately I you did three of them.
One outcome is we just lay the wood to Idaho and it's like, you
know, a complete drubbing, you know, like what Michigan state
did to act. Like you're 53 is 0, that didn't
happen the other. Is like what happened with, you
know, Nebraska and Georgia Southern where you get into a
dogfight and then you lose that one also didn't happen.
But then the other three kind of all happened in this game is
that you have the, you know, really getting letting a an FCS
opponent just play out. Play you for a while.
We have that in the first half where it's like 10 nothing it's
kind of getting close to that like oh my God we're going to
lose the Idaho game. You have that for a half knot
just like two or three minutes or a couple drives you have For
a half. Then you have the, the the
second half where it's like, are you start off and you start
kicking their butts, which is kind of like the wind but then
you also have the hey, we're up by a bunch.
Now we're going to add our foot off the gas, and gas and Idaho's
going to score on their last two drives.
You also had that where if we were up like you know, if you
just reversed everything, let me get the right.
You here, you know, an Indiana goes up, let's just say, twenty
nine to nothing and then the game ends 3522 today.
Be talking about like all right. Well they you know they lift
their foot off the gas, they did that but like they did that also
like it's, it's tough, you know? I think so.
It's like they did three of the five things they didn't win.
Handle it in lose. Thank goodness.
But they did really flirt with a loss for a while.
They had that moment where they played well, but they also seem
to let their foot off the gas as well at the end.
So it's tough. I my overarching feeling is,
like I said, going into this, it's tough to take a lot of
stats out of this like I can look at last year's game.
You look at Stephen Carr had 118 yards, he never really hit that
level again, except for the Maryland game, the rest of the
season. He was kind of sub 100 yards so
it's like I don't have a hard time taking stats from a game
like this. Even if we had beaten them by
100, it's like I don't know how real that is.
What is real is getting blanked in a half.
And, you know, this is like I saw some stuff, you know, can
buy cough does the postgame show about, you know, hey, it's all
about, just a win, is a win. It's all right.
Well, that is true. But this program is also
suffering some identity crisis and you know it's suffering.
Kind of a struggle of confidence and definitely from the fan
perspective, Not That Matters to the team.
But you know, for a team that's trying to get back from a really
sour taste last year. It almost would have been better
if they would have gotten up, 23, nothing and everybody's
like, all right, you know what, I'm just going to turn it off
and they wake up. As one's got a little the foot
off the gas. Well you know it's cold it's
wet. Its Idaho cares being down, 10,
nothing. And then it's like, maybe some
people like, I'm done, like, I can't handle this.
Like, it's almost like, they didn't win the game because a
lot of people like it 10. Nothing.
I have friends. Who aren't I?
You fans only texted me, a bunch of stuff.
I got, you're the next one to go down.
Like, you know, you and Notre Dame.
And the baskets are like everybody to calm down the game
is not over but, you know, and again, so I do think in this
situation, how you win a game like this is somewhat important
versus just winning the game, they did win the game.
I'm not sure how much I want to dig into the details in the
stats, based on that. But they got it done.
But man, it wasn't like they just came out slow, they let it
go for an entire half and I think that is, what is
concerning is, you can Overlook Idaho and not be totally
prepared but where the skill level should be.
If Indiana really is, you know, a 67 win team and Idaho, you
know, is who they are. So to speak from Dennis greens
comments, you know, Dennis screams Old Line, you know, they
are who they are, you know, then, Then okay, the overlooking
not being ready with balls like that.
Could go for a drive or two but then it's like you should be
able to lock in at least right the ship against Idaho.
But they weren't able to do that until the second half which is
concerning because if you just punched a half to even like
Maryland or Rutgers, you're not going to have enough to come
back in the second half, so well, it's concerning So one of
the big themes that we talked about throughout most of the
pre-season podcasts was that we have trust issues right now,
with Tom Allen and this Indiana football team.
Yes. And this didn't help this did
not help. And this is where I mean
everything. You just said 100% agree with
everything that I read that. You know, it's like, Zack
austrians column this morning. To paraphrase, was basically
about, well, if this helps Indiana find their Eat it with
the events of the first half. Helps Indiana.
Find the their fighting Spirit, then maybe it was worth it.
And if not, it's going to be a long season and I hear that
argument and you know, maybe that's how it plays out and I
understand Ken's argument about well win is a win.
But again like this is a football program that
historically over and over again regardless of the coach has had
real trouble playing consistently well on a
week-by-week basis and being professional.
Channel about what they're doing, and it's something that
made 2019 and 2020. So unique in the history of IU
football, was that those teams? Yes, I mean, 19 got blown out a
couple of times, but, you know, both, you know, by and large,
you always felt good about those teams going out and playing.
They don't always play great all the time, but they did
professional job in most of those games.
And I just haven't seen it the last year and to see two games
so far, like it was completely off.
The table last year and it's been kind of Hit or Miss so far
this year. And so, when you look at a game,
like Indiana versus Idaho, it's really disturbing that they have
to get their butts kicked all week in practice, and then we
read about them, you know, Alan having to go in and scream at
them in the locker room at halftime.
And that it just illustrates to me that if you were on the more
conservative or maybe pessimistic side of eating wins
and losses for this team, which this is Scott.
I'm talking to here who was more pessimistic.
You were probably accurate because I think at this stage
what we've seen yes they be do annoying at home, barely.
Yes, they've beat Idaho after falling behind 10.
Nothing in the first half. It's hard to really Envision
this team suddenly developing a professional approach to
football and the executional ability in blocking in pass
coverage. And some of these other things,
It's going to lead to a bunch of Victories against teams that do
that every week. Anyway, you know, I mean this is
It's and that's what's frustrating to me more than
anything else. Is that?
Yes, I understand the ball was wet in the first half but you
can't be 5 for 15 in the first half, throwing the ball.
And I mean, I got news for everybody, this is the Midwest.
Have you been in the midwest in the fall before the weather is
often? Not great, that's not an excuse.
This was not a weather thing. This was a we don't seem to care
enough to play football the right way and it showed on the
scoreboard for that first half and look, they get credit for
coming back and fixing it in the second half but I don't think
they get that much credit because the fact that they were
in that position in the first place illustrates that this team
is still got a long way to go in my opinion or maybe Tom Allen
has just been right this whole time and the the trouble was
Idaho knew who our quarterback was.
Death of our plays me, they knew our depth chart and they're
like, who's coming in? Like we do bait.
We're paying blades, base lack? Like this is sorry.
My alarms going off, high-class podcasting.
But now, they know we're playing bass.
Like so it's like, you know, maybe every week, who is he to
go to the transfer portal, get a whole new team and not let them
know who were playing or I mean, is it possible?
Instead of that, that perhaps we could just play one game
Seasons. So, you know, just can set of 12
games, could we be the college football?
Team. And it's like every every year
we play one game and I think, you know, you're right now.
But in all seriousness, it's this was one of those games and
when I talked about it in the pregame podcast it's like it's
whenever you're playing a team like this.
It's really not that much about the opponent.
If you're a big 10 team that's got some level of quality.
Now, we've certainly seen Indiana teams that are like,
talentless me, some of those those mid-2000s teams.
Thales is overstating it. But those teams were struggling
to beat FCS opponents and they were struggling to beat like the
really lowest rungs of division one at times.
That's my, my concern is that, you know, this is really about
you as a football program and And last year, we were a little
bit underwhelmed. By the way, Indiana played
Idaho. And that was, it was a little
bit of a warning Bell that went off.
Especially after that Iowa game to start the season.
It was like, gosh, they, you know, yes, they won 5614, but
they felt kind of unimpressive on offense, like we need to see
more. Imagine like, you know, take
that feeling and double it. And that's kind of where you're
at coming out of this Idaho game.
Yes, Indiana has a healthy quarterback and they didn't send
it look like they suffered a lot of injuries but this is You just
worry about the spirit of this IU team if knowing what happened
last year and knowing what they had to do last week to get ready
for that. If they took their they're not
like they're just not at the point where they can take their
foot off the gas to that degree and actually be successful.
And again, look, I'm it appears Tom, Allen is cognizant of the
problem. It appears that the coaching
staff is cognizant of the problem, but it's still a
problem and that's a real concern and it goes back to
that. Question about what is the
culture of this IU football? At this point and this is where
it's tough to overreact or not overreact.
And you really only the only way we know is, okay, we got to wait
until next week and see how they perform in that game.
And that's what makes this so frustrating and so hard to talk
about because I'm not going to go off the rails.
I don't it's like reading some of the stuff from the Notre Dame
media after they lost to Marshall, I mean, they're,
they're pulling the fuses out of the box right now and they're
freaking out about Marcus Freeman and they're freaking out
about like who are these players?
I mean, I feel like we did that last year with this IU team and
now it's kind of a well, okay, show us why we should reinvest
emotionally. And, you know, the old annoy win
was nice. We talked about there were a lot
of flaws. There were a lot of issues that
were easily observable in that game, and we gave Indiana credit
for overcoming them to come back out and have another performance
where there's a lot of things to pick through it.
Just I just, I, it's hard to reinvest seeing that and feeling
like, You've got at least a 50% chance.
This is going to go down a dark Road.
It's funny. You mention that Notre Dame
side. It's like then there's a
Nebraska side. Who was like, is it October 1st
yet? That's all.
We're. What is a buyout lower?
Like this is really not going. Well, we're not going to worry
too much but no it's you know, if this game had been and this
is where I have a hard time taking anything away from this
game because all the good things happen in the second half and
it's kind of a, you know, riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in
a you know sweater to quote the symptoms Simpsons is.
Because we made a bunch of adjustments in the second half
or is it because we're just a bigger better team.
And, you know, we were able to do things by just sheer will of
like over time that you know, I do just got tired and they threw
in some of their backups because that would be what we were
saying if this game happened. But let's say we were playing,
you know, Michigan, and we were up on Michigan 10.
Nothing in the Michigan. Came back and scored, 29 against
us. I mean, that's kind of, we've
had a lot of big ten games like that.
And on our, on our I'd we always say, well, you know, at some
point, you know, just the size and the scale of a team like,
Michigan is just going to, you know, exert its will against a
team like Indiana. You can't hold them at Bay that
long. The same could be said here and,
you know that that's concerning because if you go with that
route, it's like, all right, when these teams were both
playing their best and, you know, had all of their starters
in and we're fully functional, you know, Indiana went punt,
field goal missed, you know, down off on Downs, a fumble Punt
an interception for 120 yards in the first half.
Like that's what you got. All the first happens, the team
that we are both concerned about the running in the first half,
this would have been a great game to get some running things
going, they didn't do it until the second half and that's where
it's like I don't know if that second half running is because
Idaho got tired and we're into their second string players or
if we figured some things out, but even if we did it's like it
shouldn't be hard to figure things out against Idaho.
The passing yards were down, but this is where I will say that
this is you passing is going to be hard and the game.
Like this. So I'm not going to be too too
tough on it, but the interception was on an overthrow
which we saw a lot of in the Illinois game.
So yeah, it's again, I'm not like you.
I think you said it best in the preseason.
Like we have trust issues. And so, this is really as a fan,
like, I'm not going to go nuts. I'm happy.
We won. It's way better than losing had
we lost again. I'm not sure.
I would have gone nuts. It would have been like.
All right. Well, this is, this is not good.
This is, I thought it was going to be bad.
This is worse than I thought. This is kind of unfortunately
where I thought we would be and as a fan as a podcaster, as a
man, as a father of a sleepover kid, like I'm in the spot where
it's like you just to this team that you've got to just show me.
Like you've got to show me that you can be like you said
professional you can put it together that you figured some
things out. You can come out against Western
Michigan or Western Kentucky, sorry and play a full game that
you can beat maybe marylander Rutgers.
You know, I'm really just kind of sitting back and And it's
like, it's like, hey, I saw you in that car with that, dude, it
was a Corvette like, you told me wasn't anything, but it's like,
I'm I'm still very nervous and I just want to see you know, how
the rest of the evening goes. Well, that's where I'm just
like, I'm not going too far off the rails but it's like, I'm,
I'm concerned. I feel like I have a reason to
be concerned and now it's like I'm going to sit back and wait
and like uiu football needs to show me why I'm not wrong.
And they got a real chance to do it next week and but it's
either. You look at Western Kentucky.
Western Kentucky has scored 38 points and 49 points in the
first two games. They've, if they played in FCS
opponent in Austin Peay they played at Hawaii, they won both
games and they scored more points in each of the games than
Indiana has scored in either of their games.
It it just makes you concerned because the offense this was and
you know last year We you know, when we talked about that game
versus Iowa, it was well let's see if the offense can get
itself on track because it looked really bad against Iowa
and to their credit, they scored 56 points and it's like, okay,
the offense could be good. The offense could score points.
We didn't see that against Idaho this time and yes, I know there
was mitigating circumstances perhaps due to weather but still
you score. 35 points, you run. Maybe the worst collection of
two point conversion plays. I think I've ever seen that.
Don't have a lot of confidence on that front moving Forward you
know, but you're you now, you know the training wheels come
off this season and you've got a Western Kentucky team that looks
like a live wire on offense as Indiana shown on defense that
they're going to be capable of making Western Kentucky play
their game. I don't think so.
You know, you've got a Cincinnati team after that, who
lost their first week game to Arkansas.
And then came back against an FCS opponent, in Kennesaw State,
and throttled them this past. Beating them 63 210.
You know these these FCS games are always a bit peculiar
because you you know you get you know some teams just not being
fully into it and we certainly saw, you know, games against
lower level competition trip up, a bunch of big teams, but you
just don't have that you don't have that.
Luxury is Indiana to not use these opportunities to assert
your dominance and now I think you to some degree in this.
Why I keep coming back to the psyche this team?
Are you doubting yourself a bit after struggling with Idaho for
a half? And then as you said, letting
your foot off the gas in the fourth quarter and letting them
score double-digit points because if you are you got some
real problems. Not just with these next two
games but what you are facing for the rest of the season.
So anyway, it's hard to know what else to say about it.
I mean, obviously I think it's nice to see that.
Sean Shrivers finally had a good game.
You know, his only game too, but as bad as the running game
looked last week and really is How does it look for the first
half of this week? He finishes with 20 carries 155
yards, seven point eight yards per carry has a touchdown as a
long run of 46, which was that touchdown even Josh Henderson
came in and rushed 8.3 yards a carry, that's good.
I like seeing that it certainly didn't look like that was what
was going to happen in the first half but the fact that those two
guys were able to rush for that degree.
To fact, Indiana finished with a 6.6 yard, you know, average per
Rush. That's a good thing.
You know, and look, it was not a day for the passing game, but I
liked what I saw at a DJ Matthews on that drive.
When he caught the touchdown pass, I liked what I saw at AJ
Barner, you know, it Donovan. McCulley got involved in a
couple of ways ran into touchdown.
Had a nice catch on a slant pattern.
So look, there are some some positive signs to take out of
this. It just it feels like
offensively. This team still doesn't quite
know what it's supposed to do which is probably something that
was going to happen with a Offensive coordinator anyway,
but there's just very little time.
Now, you hope that they were a lot further along than they are
at this point particularly when it comes to the blocking and the
timing between basil a canned is receivers defensively.
I mean I gotta say this like the guy that stands out for me is
des on mcculloh like he's been, he looks really really good out
there and that's a really nice thing to see you know, Jaylyn
Williams had a really good game cam Jones at another really good
game. Aaron Casey does.
Nerves. I think some special mention as
well, you know. So, look there again, it's not
all negative. There are some positives, you
are seeing some individual performances looking good.
I just worry because you just just feels like we've seen this
script for my you football before and I hope that somehow
it takes a different turn from what we normally would
anticipate coming off of a game like this.
Yeah, the only other thing I would say to keep an eye on is,
you know what made the Indiana defense?
So unique in 2019 and then especially 2020 was, it was
good, but it really feasted on, you know, takeaways fumbles
interceptions. And, you know, it's concerning
that in a game against Idaho, where again, it's like, you
don't get it both ways if the conditions are so bad and it's
so tough to hang on to the ball. Why is Idaho?
The only one that gets a fun? Full recovery and interception,
and Indiana, walks with no turnovers.
Like, that is, that's concerning, I have to go back
and look at the numbers and 2020.
I think they got a turnover like an every game.
I mean, they were creating turnovers all over the place and
that was one of the questions going into 2021 is like, is that
replicatable? And never even like Josh Perry
came on with me and like, you know, we talked about, he's
like, yeah, you you learn those skills and like you know, some
of it is luck but the putting yourself in the right position
and obviously it wasn't totally replicatable in 2021 and That's
another thing that's just concerning from this game just
to keep an eye on is if you're going to beat teams like Western
Kentucky or Cincinnati coming up, you're probably going to
need one or two times where the you know, I think it's fair to
say we're not going to have an explosive offense, just going to
put up 48 points and so it's like you're going to need the
defense to come in and do a pick six or flip the field.
When you know Cincinnati's driving or Western Kentucky is
driving and and thus fought that the fact that they couldn't
Force any Any real turnovers on Idaho?
Yeah, Idaho Force to is like that's that is also a little bit
concerning. Yeah.
I mean, at this point I mean, you know, you know that's a good
point and there's not a whole lot else to say about it.
I don't think so. So anyway, we'll see.
We've got some pregame stuff to talk about this week is Indiana
takes on Western Kentucky, that's a noon kick.
So after two straight, I know nice to get off.
The eight pm game. We will have podcasts coming up
this week. Crimson cash will be back again.
As you guys talk through some bedding.
How did that? How did they have any big?
Takeaways from this past week, no, James hit it on the, the
Iowa State, Iowa game. That was a he so he makes me bet
10 bucks. Every sinner has make me, I'd
gladly bet 10 bucks, but it's on James's recommendation.
We are to know. I had a couple parlays that did
not hit, but I think he was big on Georgia Southern covering we,
he's been doing very well thus far in a lot of if this was this
was a tough week. I mean there were some just
Bonkers lines out there some very high lines But yeah he I'm
to know with him this week, so we're going with Jane anyway, we
will be back later this week Crimson cash coming up on
Thursday and then we'll also do our pregame podcast, not sure
who we're going to have on that yet, but we'll figure that out.
As Indiana, kind of rolls forward here, the Hoosiers to
know and that is something that yeah, we should celebrate.
And we're, yeah, four more to go as and, you know, hopefully,
there was enough good that came out of the Idaho game and maybe
Realize that there's an attitude and an approach that has to be
taken. That helps them to get to that a
little bit easier than before, but we'll see what happens.
So, anyway, Scott has always a pleasure.
Good luck with the Remain. The the remnants of the
sleepover, and I'm sure you'll, you'll pass your parental duties
with flying colors here. Anyway, on the pancakes.
There you go. On the pancakes.
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