1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,040 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:22,600 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,960 folks. We flew 2000 miles to do this 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,960 podcast. It is Sunday night and we are 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:36,120 still coming down off of the emotional high of the events in 6 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:40,280 Pasadena on Saturday. Both Scott and I were present as 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Indiana won their first ever game at the Rose Bowl. 8 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:50,280 They absolutely maul UCLA in the Bruins first Big 10 Conference 9 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,960 game, 42 to 13. And you could make an argument 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,960 it probably shouldn't have even been that close. 11 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,120 But for some very opportune calls that went the way of UCLA. 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Just a complete domination by Indiana and the capper on what 13 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,120 was really an incredible weekend. 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,880 Scott not just for me and my family, not just for you. 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,200 I know who we're out there, but for all of the thousands of IU 16 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,200 fans who congregated at the Rose Bowl and in Pasadena leading up 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,120 to that game, Scott, I'm it's going to be hard for me to put 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,480 into words exactly how cool this last 48 hours was. 19 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,600 But it was great to be able to take it in with you. 20 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:33,240 And just one of those games that suckers you back in to, to like 21 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,880 really getting excited and, and maybe maybe for good, you know, 22 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,160 maybe this is one of those things where it's not suckering 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,000 you in. It's actually a statement of a 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,520 new era. That's that's how I was feeling 25 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,000 more and more as I was on the flight home, but not the kind of 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,320 game we normally get from IU when we travel. 27 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,120 And you couldn't have asked for like a better combination of 28 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,520 venue, moment and result. I'm still giddy. 29 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,640 What about you? So it's basically the opposite 30 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,440 of everything from basically most of our other times that 31 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 we've traveled to games. I'm going to quote, I have it 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,000 here and we don't. We don't. 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,080 I can't do my audio bore with yours, but I have an audio clip 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,280 here from the great Bill Murray from Ghostbusters that this is 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,440 what I felt from the game. We came, we saw, we kicked it. 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,200 So I that's I I feel almost all. This is it's funny you say this 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,840 because I was thinking as I was on the flight home. 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,080 I was, I was a lot of random thoughts in my head. 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,440 I actually think someone needs to design A Kurt Signetti shirt 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,640 like him standing in a pose, but like kind of like as a Roman 41 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:41,000 emperor and just like just put just put Veni Vidi Vici 42 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,080 underneath it. Just a nice bootleg T-shirt that 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,200 somebody sells in the parking lot for 10 bucks. 44 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,040 I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. 45 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:51,240 It did feel like Indiana on the business trip. 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,520 They just came, they saw, they conquered and they got the heck 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,000 out of there. Or you could do like, you know, 48 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,520 put him on the George Clooney body from up in the air, you 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,360 know, and just like, hey, I'm just, you know, flying to Omaha 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,640 for a job here. No, every, everything you said 51 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:05,960 was, was spot on. It was really cool to go. 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Like there was a lot of anticipation. 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,840 You know, we were kind of joking about things and what was cool, 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,560 we went to an alumni event beforehand. 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,800 I bumped into a couple people who were at the 68 game. 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,360 Like one guy was in the marching 100. 57 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,440 He had a huge button and was just like, I'm super excited to 58 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,880 come back here. I had dinner with somebody the 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,240 night before who was also in the marching 100. 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Like oddly, I had a lot of marching 100 connections. 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,680 I didn't go into it that way, but people kind of like coming 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,600 back, like wanting to, you know, right the wrongs, I guess to the 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,360 68 that that Rose Bowl. But everything could not have 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,240 gone better. You know, a great start. 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Obviously you're up 14. Nothing. 66 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,400 UCLA is had one play. You know, at halftime, I, I met 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,080 with AI was waiting in line for a drink. 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,440 A couple of people were like, oh, Scott from Crimson is great. 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,160 We're talking in the line. And you know, I, I kind of was 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 like, all right, kind of half joking, but half serious like 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,640 this. We're kind of in like gots to 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,560 win territory now. I think it was like 21 three at 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,800 that time in half and it's like all right, or 21 seven and it's 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,600 like, all right, this is going to suck if we lose, but we 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,200 didn't. And like all the things that 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,000 normally happened didn't happen. It was a beautiful venue. 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,120 It was just a picturesque night, like a little bit warm. 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,480 The sun went down. It's like exactly what you 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,240 expect. And then with like 7 minutes to 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,120 go, you watch UCLA fans filing out. 81 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,600 We're waving the the Hoosier contingent was fantastic There 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,480 they were being more boisterous during the game than, you know, 83 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,760 the UCLA fans. No, it was it, it, it made-up 84 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,400 for a lot of really bad trips home after kind of getting my 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,840 tail between my legs from other places where we went. 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,920 So no, it was, it was a ton of fun for those who didn't go, You 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,640 know, I think there will hopefully be more of these on in 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,320 the future because I, I like you kind of come away feeling like 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,920 this is the start of something that feels a little more 90 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,240 replicatable than maybe we've had in the past. 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,720 We had a lot to dive into with this, but first let's talk about 92 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:04,160 the folks that bring this show to you folks, our title sponsor, 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,280 home field apparel sponsor of the entire back home network, 94 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,640 which includes, of course, our friends over at Assembly call, 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,680 the doing the work podcast. 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And you can join the nearly 1000 171 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,600 IU fans that have subscribed on the Sub stack. 172 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Please go do so at crimsoncast.substack.com. 173 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,400 All right, Scott, let's go ahead and dive into this just from a, 174 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,800 a football perspective 1st and then we'll kind of tackle some 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,640 of the more the, the, the more emotional aspects of things, 176 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,560 shall we say. Indiana goes into this game. 177 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,360 They were a 3 1/2 point favorite. 178 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,520 And I think, you know, I went back and listened as I was 179 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,320 driving back from the airport. I went back and listened to the 180 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:28,040 preview podcast that we did last week when we were talking about 181 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,040 this game. We were both confident that 182 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,960 Indiana was going to win, but I said, I'm really not totally 183 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,200 sure how these teams are going to match up. 184 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,680 There's a real argument to be made that, you know, maybe UCLA 185 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:43,240 is not very good, but there's also an argument that IU may 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,680 struggle in a road game, a conference game. 187 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:49,040 UCLA may not be as bad as we saw in that Hawaii game. 188 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,560 And we just didn't know Hawaii was going to play against that 189 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,000 level of talent. And it's kind of funny to say 190 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,040 that now in retrospect given how the game went. 191 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,040 But I think it's important to remember, like, this UCLA team 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,240 does have talent. They had a bunch of talent on 193 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,600 defense. Their defense was really 194 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,920 supposed to be their calling card. 195 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,960 And Indiana just cut through them throughout this entire 196 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,680 game. Indiana comes out and you know, 197 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 one of the things that I find fascinating about Signetti and 198 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,280 his team so far is how ready they are to take advantage of 199 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,600 things that go their way. And so Indiana gets the ball. 200 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,040 They do a 12 play, 75 yard drive that chews up 6 1/2 minutes and 201 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,560 it results in that touchdown pass from Curtis Rourke to Miles 202 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,320 Cross. Then there's a fumble on the 203 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,000 next drive. Indiana recovers and three plays 204 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,440 later, they're back in the end zone. 205 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,120 It's 14, nothing and UCL as entirely on the back foot. 206 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,760 And from there, you know, Indiana's win percentage for win 207 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,560 probability never dipped. I think below like 8380. 208 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:53,800 Eighty .4% was the lowest it got. 209 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,880 And you know, from the rest of the time, even though there were 210 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,840 some nervous moments, Scott IU had control of the game 211 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,560 statistically. And they also just had control 212 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:07,840 of the game in terms of play after play after play, offense 213 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,360 and defense. It was a performance that was 214 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,960 dominant throughout, but the scoreboard didn't really reflect 215 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,800 the dominance until the fourth quarter. 216 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,280 But it was good that it did because I think if this game 217 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,280 ends like 28 to 13, people don't remember how much of an ass 218 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 kicking this was that IU was able to pull off in this 219 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,280 contest. No, it's true. 220 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,840 You know, the, the, the stat that there's a lot of stats I 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,040 want to talk about tonight. There's there's some high level 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,000 stats for the season. They're pretty amazing. 223 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,880 But one that I take away from from the game was we were nine 224 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,240 for 12 on 3rd downs. And what was interesting is a 225 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,200 lot of that is, you know, First off, we're getting 5 or 6 yards 226 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,640 of play. Like just every play, it's like 227 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,560 we're doing a second or second and four or it's a third and 228 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:57,880 one. But what was interesting is 229 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,480 there were a lot of interesting calls, to say the least, that 230 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,680 would go against Indiana that would put us like take a third 231 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,840 and four and make it a third and 14. 232 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,600 And I don't have the exact number, but it felt like every 233 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,920 time that happened, we had a play to get 15 yards. 234 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,280 Like instead of just being like, oh, well, shoot, you know, damn 235 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,280 it, this is the end of the drive. 236 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,240 Or, you know, it's like it, it felt like there was a real 237 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,400 steady hand on the team. That's like, all right, let's 238 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,840 call this play that we know will get us 15 yards. 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,600 And, you know, it was what I also thought was interesting 240 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,480 with the game plan as a whole is they kind of ran exactly what 241 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,280 they needed to run to get done, what they needed to get done. 242 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,160 And what I mean by that is, you know, when they were down 3rd 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,600 and 15, they would run a play to get 16 yards. 244 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,960 And then in the fourth quarter, I was telling my friend Teddy, 245 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,880 who I was with that, you know, it's like, it's like we're not 246 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,240 taking a lot of shots, like just a lot of kind of five yards 247 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,760 here, 4 yards there and it's great. 248 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,080 And then all of a sudden we took like one shot in the end zone 249 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,240 touchdown. And it's like that was kind of 250 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,480 the nail in the coffin and it felt like Signeti had almost 251 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,960 been sitting on that for the game is like, whenever I want to 252 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,320 pull this out, I can pull this out like that's a trump card and 253 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,840 then we're done. But it was just that idea of 254 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,960 it's like what whatever the yardage was we needed to get, we 255 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,600 got it. And that was really cool to see. 256 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,960 But just I I agree with you. I mean, they came out, they took 257 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,920 care of business early. I mean, we're up 14. 258 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Nothing. UCLA has run one play. 259 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,160 And it's like, it's like I texted you. 260 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,680 It's like the reverse Iowa game. But then when it got a little 261 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,280 bit tight, I think it was like 2110 there right at the start of 262 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,320 the second, you know, right after halftime, it's 2110. 263 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:35,320 And you know, I'm immediately my IU football brain is thinking, 264 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,360 damn, you know, it's 2110. So now it's going to be 2117 265 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,960 because we'll probably do a three and out. 266 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,360 They're going to score a touchdown. 267 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,600 Like what? What, You know, how's it going 268 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,600 to go when it's 2117? It's like never got there. 269 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Like it just never happened. Never got there. 270 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,800 And so that that all of those things were some of the things 271 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,040 that like most impressed me, especially when he had a UCLA 272 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,520 team that was coming in to stop the run. 273 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,120 You could tell they wanted to stop our run. 274 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,320 And while they contained it, they still contained it to the 275 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,520 point where we're getting, you know, 4 yards a carry. 276 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Yeah. You know, it's interesting 277 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,840 because obviously we had some concerns about the passing game 278 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,120 in the first couple of games for Indiana, but it was large 279 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,040 because the running game was so dominant. 280 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,440 And it was clear, at least from my viewing and watching the 281 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,040 game, that UCLA was really focused on not letting Indiana 282 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,960 get going in the running game. You know, they and they were 283 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,000 jamming the line and it's it, you know, Indiana was gaining or 284 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,640 in the early stages, like 2 yards of carry or three yards of 285 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,120 carry. Like it wasn't that much. 286 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,000 And you combine that with some penalties and it put Indiana in 287 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,760 some some 3rd and intermediate or third and long ranges. 288 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,280 And then it was just like Indiana said, all right, we'll 289 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,040 pass. And they rarely tried to take 290 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,080 deep shots, but the couple of times they did it paid off. 291 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,360 But they had a ton of intermediate routes. 292 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,880 They had a bunch of short stuff that they did, and they just 293 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,200 never looked rattled. And I think that it's one of the 294 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,280 big things that stuck out to me in watching how this team dealt 295 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,080 with this whole game in the macro, this idea that what we're 296 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,720 going to take away, UCLA saying we're going to take away the 297 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,480 thing that you're best at, that we think you're best at. 298 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,080 And Indiana's like, OK, cool. That's we'll do this other thing 299 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,920 instead. And then they start to focus on 300 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,280 that. And then Indiana switches back 301 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,000 to running the ball primarily in the second-half. 302 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 And UCLA really doesn't have a solution. 303 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,960 And they really didn't know who to cover. 304 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,800 I mean, I thought it was fascinating when they did start 305 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,360 to pay attention to the passing game. 306 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,760 You start to realize that, you know, Indiana literally has 6 307 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,360 dynamite options for Curtis Work to throw to. 308 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,160 I mean, this time Miles Cross leads the team. 6 catches, 90 309 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,600 yards, 15 yards per catch. Omar Cooper, another touchdown, 310 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,000 58 yards. You know, Elijah Serrat had a 311 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,920 big pick up, had four catches. But Miles Price gets in the 312 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,720 action. Keyshawn Williams catches 2 313 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,400 touchdowns. Zach Horton was a key target for 314 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Curtis Rourke. I mean, it was just like it was 315 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,000 very, very difficult. You could see in the moment for 316 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,640 UCLA to adapt to what IU was doing. 317 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,760 And really the guy that deserves the most credit for that on the 318 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,920 field was Curtis Rourke, who just looked unflappable. 319 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,960 I mean, there's a great super cut of most of his completions 320 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,200 that NBC, I think it was actually Big 10 Network put this 321 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,680 out that I would recommend going and checking out. 322 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,640 I retweeted it on the, on the Twitter and it's, it's just like 323 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,360 there's, there's the play where the, the, the snap is low and he 324 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,880 almost like loses it and he picks it back up and just tosses 325 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,200 it. There's plays where he's like 326 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,880 having to switch where he's going very quickly and he does 327 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,800 that. He, he's looking off defenders 328 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,400 and he's throwing the opposite direction. 329 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,360 I mean, the, the, the pocket presence that he was able to 330 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,960 demonstrate and this, the lack of panic, I think just in 331 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,240 general from this IU team really shine through in this particular 332 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 game. I mean, we were talking and a 333 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,960 lot of people had said, Oh, you know, there, there might be 334 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,920 5050. There might be more IU fans than 335 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,760 UCLA fans. There were not, and we'll get to 336 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,800 that more later. But it was 8020 UCLA fans and 337 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,640 they were requisitely loud. Like, it wasn't like they were 338 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,080 quiet, at least in those early stages. 339 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,000 It didn't rattle Indiana. And even as you said in that 340 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,480 exchange going into the first half or the going into halftime 341 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,760 where they let the touchdown up after the long drive, then UCLA 342 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,079 gets the ball back, they go down, Indiana stops them in the 343 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:13,560 red zone, they kick a field goal. 344 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,240 You and I talked about this. It's like this is, this is a 345 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,200 little nerve wracking because we've seen Indiana start to fall 346 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,160 apart. These kinds of sequences 347 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,960 generally hurt IU. IU just comes right back out and 348 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,800 he's just like ho hum, no big deal. 349 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,080 And then marches down the field. And you know what was that 350 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,120 drive? 9 plays, 87 yards, 4 minutes and 351 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,840 36 seconds. Suddenly it's 28 to 10. 352 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,480 It's a 3 score game. And it's like, all right, you're 353 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,120 really going to catch us. And they never did. 354 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,000 Yeah. Well, the thing with Rourke, I 355 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,440 will say that I also again to the same point is a lot of times 356 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,280 when he would drop back, you'd see him go through his 357 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,920 progressions and then he would just check down to the guy who 358 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,320 was wide open in the side is normally Horton off to the side 359 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,160 and it's like 4-3 or four times. He just would look through. 360 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,320 It's like not there. It's like, but there was a guy 361 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,280 just standing wide open on the edge is like through there and 362 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,040 it's like 6 yards and it's like great take that and we'll live 363 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,280 see another day. And UCLA was like, well, then 364 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,280 when they took that, it's like that's when he would take the 365 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,360 longer, you know, 15 yard shots. You mentioned the drive thing. 366 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:18,680 I want to do this because we had we have spent many a year doing 367 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,160 the drive chart game in in kind of a sad. 368 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,200 Yeah, you got to do the name. Scott, come on, name that or 369 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,160 name that drive. Recite the drives. 370 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Come on, drive. So we'll start with Indiana. 371 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,960 You know, they this is their drive chart for this game. 372 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,920 It was touchdown, touchdown, an 88 play drive that was, you 373 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,520 know, turnover on downs and then a touchdown. 374 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,200 And then we have half time and it's touchdown, touchdown, 375 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,760 touchdown and then a punt when the game was was officially 376 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,680 over. That's really good. 377 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,960 That was Indiana, just that was the Indiana team. 378 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,720 If you go to UCLA, this is what we're used to. 379 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,680 One play fumble. The second one, you know, a 14 380 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,600 play 42 yard drive. But they they stuck with a field 381 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,400 goal attempt that they miss three play drive for a punt, A9 382 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,400 play drive for a touchdown, which I'm sure Signetti will let 383 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,240 the defense know about. But then the third quarter, 384 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,080 here's what I think like this is again, what's different A9 play 385 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,920 drive, they just get a field goal, a next one's 11 play 386 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,520 drive, they just get a field goal and then it's interception 387 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,360 punt and then the game's over. One of those I think there was 388 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,600 another another interception that really should have 389 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,440 happened. I think on that 11 play drive 390 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,240 that was called back because of a really bad pass interference 391 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,920 call that we we one of the many bad calls we can talk about. 392 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,840 But to me, what I take away from this is First off, it's fun to 393 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,320 play the drive chart game when we're doing well. 394 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,000 But those two drives to start the third quarter, I mean a nine 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,120 play 65 yard drive and an 11 play 66 yard drive for 5 minutes 396 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:50,560 and 6 minutes respectively. That gets UCLAA total of 6 397 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,240 points. That's again, you know, not 398 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,240 every you're not going to stop everyone 3 and out three and out 399 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,880 three and out. Like those are big drives for 400 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,200 UCLA that took a lot of time that just yielded nothing and I 401 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,040 mean yielded, you know, 6 points. 402 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,720 And had those both been touchdown drives, the game would 403 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,120 have been in a much different place and probably would have 404 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:11,560 been tighter as it got along. But that's really where we 405 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,480 sought. We held them for field goals. 406 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,120 We got touchdowns. And it's just it's very unusual 407 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,240 for an Indiana team to kind of normally when you allow a drive 408 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,520 that long in a Big 10 game, it's like you kind of. 409 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Peter out in the red zone and it's like you feel the deflation 410 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,160 of even the teams being like, damn it, like and for a sorry, I 411 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,280 know I'm talking about like for a lot of those drives, things 412 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,120 went wrong in that drive for the defense, whether there was kind 413 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,840 of a very phantom pass interference call. 414 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,320 There was another, you know, a couple of them had weird 415 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,800 penalties like a sack that suddenly becomes roughing the 416 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,520 passer. But the kind of things that as 417 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,880 an IU fan, you're like, oh, that's it. 418 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,360 Like this is where it like that's the moment where it 419 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,280 turns. But it didn't it didn't turn any 420 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,280 of them. Like they all became drives 421 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,040 ended in field goals. And that that's just very 422 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,920 unusual for Indiana to to happen. 423 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,960 You look at those, those two drives, I think you, you really 424 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,560 hit the nail on the head because the, the first drive, the not 425 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,880 the, you know, the, the one at the beginning of the half, UCLA 426 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600 gets down to the 9 for of Indiana. 427 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,080 It's a first and goal and it's incomplete pass, 1 yard run, 1 428 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,040 yard loss on a run, incomplete pass, 28 yard field goal. 429 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,880 The next drive and, and at this point, UCLA is down, you know, 430 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,320 28 to 10. They get all the way down into 431 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,640 the red zone. It's first and 10 at the 18. 432 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,440 And he goes incomplete pass, 2 yard run, incomplete pass, 34 433 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,480 yard field goal. And then Indiano goes down the 434 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,760 field, scores a touchdown. It's 35 to 13. 435 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,400 I don't know what to do with all this competence, Scott. 436 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,240 I got like, like, it's funny because I remember, you know, so 437 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,000 there's, there's two things here, I guess. 438 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,480 And they both relate to how we think about IU football or how 439 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,840 we've been conditioned to think about IU football. 440 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,840 I don't care who the coach has been it, you know, Jerry 441 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Denardo, Terry Hepner, Bill Lynch, Kevin Wilson, Tom Allen. 442 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:07,040 Indiana has always been so easy to rattle when things don't go 443 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,360 their way. And you, whatever you ever you 444 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,280 want to slice that end of first half, beginning of second-half, 445 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,440 like that was a rattling sort of circumstance. 446 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,160 And now you're only up by 11 points. 447 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,760 You know, you're on the road. They've got all the momentum and 448 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,960 it just looked like it didn't matter to Indiana at all. 449 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,920 It just was like, all right, we're just going to go back out 450 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,280 and do what we do. And that is so, so different 451 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,400 from what we're used to, even in great seasons. 452 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,920 I mean, you go back and look at even 2019, go back into 2015. 453 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,280 There always felt like there were moments in those seasons 454 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,120 where it might, the wheels might fall off the the wagon and then 455 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,320 they somehow didn't. This did not feel that way. 456 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,040 But the other thing I'll note, and this is kind of specific to 457 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,000 the, the Tom Allen era, you know, the the Tom Allen era 458 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,200 defensively was always supposed to be, well, they bend, but they 459 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,840 don't break and they let they let teams drive and then they 460 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,920 don't, you know, they, they give up a field goal. 461 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,880 And then that gradually became less and less true as you went 462 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,760 further and further in as as fair and as Kane Womack left, it 463 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,440 became, you know, significantly less true. 464 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,320 This was this is legitimately that where Indiana just didn't 465 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,440 they didn't break. They they, they, they let that 466 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,440 yardage up. They let that time up knowing 467 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,520 that way. We're just not going to let them 468 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,160 into the end zone. And they didn't let them into 469 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,760 the end zone. Eventually UCLA ran out of field 470 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,160 to do things and they forced field goals. 471 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,800 And you know, it's fascinating to think about it. 472 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,560 You know, the so far on the season, Indiana not, you know, a 473 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,960 team that we didn't know a whole lot defensively how they were 474 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,680 going to do. They have let in a grand total 475 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,600 of 23 points through three games, averaging. 476 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Seven points a game giving up seven points a game. 477 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,440 I mean, that's that's, that's nuts. 478 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,560 And that is obviously a testament to Kurt Signetti. 479 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,000 It's a testament to Brian Haynes and and the whole defensive 480 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080 staff, but it's also a testament to the mentality shift. 481 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,800 I think in this program that's already taken place where it is 482 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,880 a point of pride to not let your opposition score on you. 483 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,120 And there's not the attitude we'll just get them next time. 484 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:06,840 It's like, no, we're going to get them now. 485 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240 And, and I really do think that that is going to be key for this 486 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,480 IU team as they move through the rest of the season. 487 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,440 Because if they compare that type of performance, which 488 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320 they've now done three times with the offense that we have 489 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,480 seen in all three games where they are clinical, they're able 490 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,880 to run or pass, they're able to shift what they're doing. 491 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,480 They're able to play, you know, field possessions style of 492 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,480 offense where they're just moving the ball very slowly. 493 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,120 But they can also take shots down the field. 494 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,160 Like, I don't care who you are, that is a a really difficult 495 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,080 combination to try to deal with as an opponent. 496 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,320 And you look down the the list of teams Indiana's going to be 497 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,120 playing and they've all got flaws in one way or another. 498 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600 This UCLA game is really kind of the coming out party for 499 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Indiana, saying, well, there are certainly some talent flaws that 500 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,880 you're not, you're not dealing with a roster of five stars, but 501 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,200 already you're seeing it manifesting in the way Indiana's 502 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,840 playing, this steadiness and this kind of unflappability. 503 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,920 And that travels real well as you get later into the season. 504 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,480 UCLA you know they under 100 yards rushing. 505 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,680 They they averaged 3.7 yards a rush, under 150 yards passing. 506 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,240 They end with 142, you know, for the season. 507 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,400 Oh, I had it right here. Sorry, wrong tab for the season. 508 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:28,480 Indiana is giving up 1.9 yards a rush, which is just incredible. 509 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,960 The average passer rating for the opponents is under 100. 510 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,040 It's 95 and they're they're giving up on offense just just 511 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,400 3.3 yards a play. Now, again, you could say, all 512 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,080 right, two of the opponents are kind of bad to start off, but 513 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,640 this is what I was talking about to some people this morning at 514 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,520 the airport feels like a different time ago. 515 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,240 But it is that, you know, even if you say, all right, UCLA may 516 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,840 not be a great Big 10 team. I don't think they're the worst, 517 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 but they say maybe they're a bottom tier Big 10 team. 518 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,280 You know, my, my, my retort is OK, but this is what good Big 10 519 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,760 teams do to bad Big 10 teams. They go on the road and really 520 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840 kick the snot out of them. Like it's this is this is kind 521 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,760 of what like the Penn States. And I'm not saying we're at that 522 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,680 level yet, but like the that little tier right behind, you 523 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600 know, normally Michigan and Ohio State, that kind of Penn State, 524 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,800 Wisconsin, when they're all in Iowa, when they're playing well, 525 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800 like, well, they can't quite do it because they can't score 526 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,760 enough. But you know, those kinds of 527 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,040 teams at that level, like when Michigan State's having one of 528 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,120 those ten and two seasons, like this is what they do. 529 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Like this is what a top tier, upper echelon Big 10 team does 530 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,640 on the road to a bad opponent. So that is also something to 531 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,920 just be like, oh, well, UCLA sucks when this means nothing. 532 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,120 It's like, no, it means something. 533 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,360 It means that if we continue to play subpar teams, which it 534 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,120 looks like we're going to like this, there is something there. 535 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,160 Yeah, there's, I really see no rationale whatsoever to to 536 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,960 minimize the the result in this game. 537 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,480 And I do think that it is ultimately a AA4213 win on the 538 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,920 road against any Big 10 team when you are not Ohio State or 539 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,160 you are not Michigan. Last year is an accomplishment 540 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,320 and and it's one that, you know, I, I, I don't think UCLA is a 541 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,400 very good team. I also don't think they're the 542 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,560 worst team in the conference. I mean, I think that's caveat 543 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,840 Michigan as we give them the upper tier. 544 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960 I like we give them a little anyway, just go ahead. 545 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,920 But you know, it's like, but like that what I mean is Ohio 546 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,120 State winning at Rutgers like 55 to 3:00 or winning at Indiana 51 547 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,920 to three, like they did what last year or whatever the score 548 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,320 was. It's like there that's got to be 549 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,560 graded on a curve because you have an overwhelming amount of 550 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,320 talent. You probably should be beating 551 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320 that team by that amount. It's still it's you still get 552 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,120 some credit for it. But for a team that's not in 553 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:50,000 that upper echelon of talent to go on the road, you know, in an 554 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,880 environment where you are clearly the road team and just 555 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,360 execute to the level where you win 42 to 13. 556 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,680 That is something that, as you just said, normally that's what 557 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,360 good Big 10 teams do. And I think it, you know, for 558 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,200 all the people who have been holding out saying, well, what, 559 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440 you know, they haven't really done anything against good 560 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,800 competition. OK. 561 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,640 If you want to discount this one by suddenly saying as as I've 562 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,640 noticed some people online say, well, UCLA is probably the worst 563 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,080 team in the Big 10. It's like, first, they're not 564 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Northwestern exists, Purdue exists. 565 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920 That's two, you know, and you, you, if you're not in the bottom 566 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,480 2, like you're somewhere in the morass of the middle of the 567 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,280 conference, far as I'm concerned, but. 568 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,760 It's Indiana was a 3 1/2 point favorite in this game and they 569 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,040 won by 29. And I want to mention all the 570 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,840 talk of, you know, before the season, they Oh my God, you 571 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,520 know, going east to West is going to be tough for those 572 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,560 teams. And it's like that. 573 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,800 That also was not a factor at all. 574 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240 Yeah. So I think if you want to, if 575 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,840 you want to continue to caveat what Indiana's doing, so be it. 576 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,080 I'm really excited by the performance. 577 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,680 I'm really excited by that level of performance for four 578 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,400 quarters. Wasn't like they let up, you 579 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,240 know, let off the gas there in the fourth quarter. 580 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,840 They actually poured it on. That is what you have to do and 581 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,880 that is what instills confidence in this team. 582 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,120 And, you know, I'm just so impressed, not just with the 583 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,400 poise related to, you know, that sequence at the end of the first 584 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,440 beginning of the second or the poise of being able to play the 585 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,360 full 60, but a lot of those penalties just artificially kept 586 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,960 drives alive for UCLAI Mean it was. 587 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680 It just looked incredibly blatant that like, well, we got 588 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440 to keep UCLA in this game somehow. 589 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,640 There wasn't really another good explanation for a lot of the 590 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,520 calls that were made. And it didn't bother Indiana at 591 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760 all. It just it, it was like, OK, 592 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,520 fine, we'll go back out and and play good defense for another 593 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920 couple of of drives. And it's it's it was one of 594 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,240 those things again, where we're just used to a certain level of 595 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,720 mental fragility with IU football. 596 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,760 And it's really heartening through three games to not see 597 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,720 that come through at all and instead to watch an Indiana team 598 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920 be opportunistic and not be daunted. 599 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,440 You know, they, they almost look like they're never daunted. 600 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Also, I'll note, and maybe the last kind of football thing I 601 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,480 want to mention before we talk about the overall atmosphere, 602 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,440 another game where Indiana does not turn the ball over. 603 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,640 They have yet to turn the ball over in the 2024 season. 604 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,800 They're in a + 6 turnover margin. 605 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680 They turn UCLA over twice. They probably should have turned 606 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440 them over three times, but for one of those aforementioned 607 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,480 terrible penalties that that's probably, I don't think you're 608 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,960 going to go through a whole season where you don't turn the 609 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,040 ball over. But the fact that this is 610 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880 starting to become a theme where Indiana takes care of the 611 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,320 football and causes the opponent to have at least one mistake 612 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,840 that yields points or good field position. 613 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,160 Again, big change over what we've seen the last couple of 614 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,040 years and certainly something that is really promising as we 615 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,680 head into this middle portion of the season. 616 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,440 The the last thing I'll hit on is, you know, there's 4 617 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760 penalties for the team in the game. 618 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120 I think 2 of them were really early false starts, which, which 619 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,800 kind of was a little bit uncharacteristic, but you know, 620 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,680 again, this is something where, you know, we're, we're less 621 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,040 penalized and UCLA, so we only had four penalties in the, in 622 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,800 the entire game. And, and again, some of those, 623 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,520 I, I feel like two of those were very, very suspect calls and two 624 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120 were early false starts. It, it's a team that doesn't 625 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,440 make a lot of mistakes and when they start, you have those first 626 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240 two false starts that you can see like, all right, didn't 627 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,080 happen again. Like it just, it gets resolved 628 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,960 and that's, you know, that this is something where, you know, if 629 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,400 you're, I, I know that people are, you know, fans outside are 630 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360 going to be like, oh, you know, 19 and 2020, like he got all 631 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,320 fired up. But you know, IU and Tom Allen's 632 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,560 like, but if you go back and listen to the podcast, you and 633 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,880 I, even during those periods were like, we, we, it was still 634 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,560 a sloppy team. It's like they were getting 635 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,000 things done, but it was still sloppy. 636 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160 You know, this, this team, like we've continue to say, is just, 637 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,040 it's not it, it's it's very disciplined and it just doesn't 638 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,880 look like it makes a lot of those mistakes. 639 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,960 And so it's good to see again, another game where there's just 640 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,960 not a lot of what I would call like sloppy penalties, just 641 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520 penalties where it looks like people are kind of just not 642 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640 doing the right thing or haven't been, you know, do it again. 643 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,720 It's like the two false starts were really the only ones I 644 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840 would call sloppy penalties and then it just went away after 645 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,200 that first drive. Yeah, I mean, I, I just, I 646 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120 couldn't have been more impressed in general with with 647 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,480 how much of a team performance this was. 648 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,400 I think Curtis Rourke was clearly, I think the best player 649 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,240 for Indiana throughout the course of the game. 650 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,320 But but again, Aiden Fisher had a great game. 651 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,040 You had a different group of defensive players step up behind 652 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,880 him. Jalen Walker had a great game. 653 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Amara Farrell looked great, had had one of the the two sacks 654 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,040 that Indiana had in the contest. I mean, it just it's really, 655 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,720 really exciting to watch Indiana get group contributions from 656 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000 their defense group contributions from their 657 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,880 receiving core. You know, Tyson Lawton did not 658 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160 have a great running game, but Justice Ellison it 10 carries, 659 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240 47 yards. You know, Elijah Green had some 660 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,000 nice carries there at the end. It's it's just cool to see that 661 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,480 there are a lot of pretty high level replaceable parts or 662 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,560 interchangeable parts. Not replaceable parts, but 663 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,640 interchangeable parts where it's not so much mattering that you 664 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,840 have a one lead person that's doing everything in one area. 665 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,040 It's more it's a collective effort. 666 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,680 And it does seem like that's the kind of thing that we thought we 667 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,720 might get out of Signetti, but we didn't know if we would get 668 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,720 it this quickly. And I'm really excited in a game 669 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,680 against live competition on the road that what we saw in those 670 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,000 first two games, we actually saw more of, I would argue, in this 671 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040 game in a lot of phases. Well, and that's, I mean, real 672 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,120 quickly, like that would be like, the question is to you, 673 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,760 like who's our, who's our #1 receiver right now? 674 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,360 And I say it 'cause like, I'm not, I'm not sure. 675 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,320 It's see, it's every game is a little bit different. 676 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,120 You know, like I would say Serrado's been really good, but 677 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,200 he only had 4 catches, didn't have a touchdown. 678 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,080 You know, Williams had two touchdowns in this game. 679 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,040 It's like it, it feels like the, the lead receiver is the one 680 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,960 who's open, which sounds so stupid and so coach speak, but 681 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,080 it, it is kind of the way this team looks to be operating, 682 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,240 which is like work just going to find the open guy. 683 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,680 And of those 5 or 6 receivers, you know, it's it I, I'm not 684 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,679 sure who the, the sole #1 lead receiver is, which again, is 685 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,199 kind of different from where we've been because we've had 686 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,480 good receiving cores at IU. But it's like, Oh well, James 687 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,360 Hardy, like that's, that's our number one guy. 688 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,360 When we get to the red zone, we're, we're taking three shots 689 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,960 at him or something. It's like we don't do that. 690 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,920 We just go to the guy that's open, which again, sounds so 691 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,960 simple. Or on the flip side, it's like, 692 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,239 well, Micah McFadden, like that's the that's the core of 693 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,159 our defense. And yeah, yeah, yeah. 694 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,080 That's that is there's nothing inherently wrong with it if you 695 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,560 can get away with it, but it is interesting and very different. 696 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,040 I think that instead of relying on one amazing player to do what 697 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,360 they do, Indiana has been getting these collective 698 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,040 efforts. And I am really fascinated to 699 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,159 see how that carries on throughout the course of this 700 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:48,159 season. Yeah. 701 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,400 So anyway, a huge win for Indiana, 42 to 13. 702 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,719 I was one thing I was thinking about. 703 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,840 We talked about this a little bit in the airport. 704 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,360 I was trying to think of the last time I left a game with the 705 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,720 feeling that I had leaving the Rose Bowl, you know, like that, 706 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:09,320 that mix of just unbelievable joy and also kind of surprise 707 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,960 that it went as well as it did. And I, I can really only come up 708 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840 with a couple off the top of my head. 709 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,000 The, the last game like this was really, I think it was the 710 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,800 bucket game in 2015. You know, in Indiana, they, they 711 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200 went in that game five and six. They had to win the game pretty 712 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600 wasn't good that year. But Indiana had been so up and 713 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:34,400 down and Indiana just absolutely just destroys Purdue in that 714 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,520 contest. IU rushes the field. 715 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,840 You know, the, the fans rushed the field at the end. 716 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,240 I remember walking out of that game having a similar kind of 717 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,920 vibe around me where I was just like, I can't believe what just 718 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,040 happened. I'm so happy. 719 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960 I kind of walked around in the daze for a little bit. 720 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,240 I felt that way coming out of the game last night. 721 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,600 For those who saw my, my, the video that I posted after the 722 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,880 game and for those who are on Substack, who are not on, on XI, 723 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,680 will post it on the Substack as a free video. 724 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,240 I, it's a little out of date now, obviously, because you're 725 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,240 hearing the full podcast. That was just my immediate 726 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:11,200 reaction, but it was just so gratifying from a fan 727 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,480 perspective to watch an Indiana team play that well on the road. 728 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,360 And look, you and I talked about it. 729 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,120 We were confident Indiana winning, but we were talking 730 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,160 about, you know, they're going to keep it a close game. 731 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,520 This not not they're going to go out and essentially curb stomp 732 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,640 UCLA. That was, you know, I, I, I got 733 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,400 off the plane in Denver connecting and there's a guy in 734 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,160 a wheelchair sitting there, you know, middle-aged guy, but he 735 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,400 looks at my what I'm wearing right now, I'm still wearing 736 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,320 what I was wearing on the plane. He's like, you're at the game. 737 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,600 Like, yeah. He's like, oh, congratulations 738 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600 on kicking our ass. Like it was that it was that 739 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,800 guy. We had a nice conversation. 740 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,840 I will say the, the level of hatred that UCLA fans have for 741 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,360 Chip Kelly, like if we could, if we could bottle that and harness 742 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,920 it, it would, it would replace the search for nuclear fusion as 743 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,880 like the, you know, the renewable resource of the I 744 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,480 mean, I, we need to get into that at some point. 745 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,760 But man, these people hate Chip Kelly and I understand why more 746 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,200 and more after seeing it. But that's a that aside, it is 747 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,000 fascinating to me how effective and how awesome Indiana was and 748 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,360 how good that made me feel and how few times I've felt that 749 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,080 travelling for Indiana football games like, it really just there 750 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,560 hasn't been a lot of that historically. 751 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Yeah, I, I, I mean, I haven't gone to a lot of wins for 752 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,800 Indiana football where I've gone. 753 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,640 I mean, you know, so I, I don't, I don't really have an answer to 754 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,480 that. I mean, the only one that I 755 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,600 could think of that was like shocking in in a different way 756 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,520 was when we beat Missouri on the road when they were ranked. 757 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,120 But if, and this is all off memory, I feel like we had lost 758 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480 a game before that. That was kind of perplexing, 759 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,720 like Bowling Green or something, like we had lost a funky game 760 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,120 before that. And then again, I I will do 761 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,200 fever dream Scott here at some point the end of the podcast. 762 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,720 But that was also a year where it's like I think we had a 763 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,680 pretty rough big 10 schedule ahead of us. 764 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,240 Like, again, the thing that is so different about this is 765 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,720 everything is felt good up to this point. 766 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,320 We, like you said, curb stop UCLA in the Rose Bowl. 767 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,760 And when I look ahead the next four to five weeks, I don't see, 768 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,400 you know, Ohio State, Penn State. 769 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,720 I just I don't see the roadblocks that normally happen. 770 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,560 Like I see smooth sailing ahead as well. 771 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,240 I, I really cannot remember a moment in time where it, it 772 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,920 feels like things were on the right track and I could see it 773 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,160 kind of continuing to go nicely for a A5 or six week span ahead 774 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,920 while we're in Big 10 play. Yeah, I mean, the Sky's the 775 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,120 limit and I, I don't see, look, I mean, I don't think anybody's 776 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,800 expecting this to be AI. Do love like there was a moment 777 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,920 near the end of the game you you can't We found each other at the 778 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,960 stadium. There was a lot of like this is 779 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680 this is in the moment. Just like, where are the losses? 780 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:56,080 Like I was texting people today and you know, I, I, I texted our 781 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,000 friend Taylor Lehman at bite sized Bison. 782 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,760 I was like, what's the ceiling? He's like the ceilings. 783 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,000 Eleven wins at this point. And I mean, that's hard to get 784 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,240 your head wrapped around and look, I don't think that's 785 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,600 actually going to happen. We both predicted 8 and four 786 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,960 before the season started and people thought we were crazy. 787 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,240 Many people did like, oh, look at the optimism. 788 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,320 It's like, whatever. I mean, this is exactly what I 789 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,480 was hoping and I knew there was the possibility that this would 790 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,720 happen, but we both picked a loss at UCLAI think in our 791 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,760 preview, we both picked a loss at UCLAI think you picked the 792 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,000 loss at UCLA. I'll go back and check. 793 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,040 I think I have this one as a win. 794 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120 But anyway, we're not fighting for credit here. 795 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,120 Yeah, yeah, but we're also we are in hey, the the the rankings 796 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,640 come out. We're in others receiving votes 797 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,680 now. We're we're others receiving 798 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,960 votes. I I predicted 34 to 30 Indiana 799 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,480 would win at UCLA. So I I did pick that. 800 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,960 You were the one I think that picked the loss. 801 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,960 And I think you had us beating like Nebraska or Wisconsin or to 802 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,200 Washington. But anyway, yeah, yeah, we'll 803 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,480 see. I, I, it's more to me like 804 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,960 watching Indiana play as well as they did and the ability of, of 805 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:03,040 that, you know, the, the 60 minute game and, and how that 806 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,560 made me feel just as a fan. This is very qualitative. 807 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,360 It's very individual. But I've seen a lot, you know, a 808 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,120 ton of Indiana games. I've traveled to a lot of 809 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,280 Indiana games. And I don't think I'll feel that 810 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,440 way again this season. Because I now have higher 811 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,360 expectations. I've now seen them do it against 812 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,240 a live opponent on the road. Like it, it will. 813 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,320 I'll never have that kind of innocent. 814 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,720 The write up is always more fun than that, and I'm glad for 815 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,240 that. Like I, I wanna shed that. 816 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,640 I wanna actually feel like I can lean on this team as a fan and 817 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,440 say to myself, I believe in them and I believe I can speak 818 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,960 strongly and positively about them. 819 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,160 And and that win last night in the way that they accomplished 820 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,200 that. They're not going to win every 821 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,880 game on their schedule. I still think 8 and 4 is a great 822 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,400 target number for a team that's at this much new. 823 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,280 There'll be more film of Indiana now. 824 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,600 I mean, there's a lot of different things that will 825 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,960 happen throughout the course of the season. 826 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,640 There's injuries, but it was really, really gratifying 827 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,640 walking out of there. And I just it, I reflected on 828 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,080 how few times I've really been able to have that particular 829 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,360 feeling with an Indiana team. And and all three of those games 830 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,520 were special. Like those were kind of the last 831 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,080 two big breakthroughs. Like, yeah, that that bucket 832 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,960 game in 15 got Indiana back to a bowl for the first time in in 833 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,000 eight years. And the game in 2019 was really 834 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,000 what pushed Indiana over the hump. 835 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,760 And instead of being a team that was going to struggle to get to 836 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,200 a bowl, it was like, well, which bowl are we getting to? 837 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,120 And so I, it was a dissimilar kind of feeling last night. 838 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,840 Anyway, let's let's jump into the atmosphere just in general. 839 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,040 I mean, I, I want to start off by saying this. 840 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,320 The, I, we were in Pasadena for a couple of days. 841 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,080 I got there Wednesday night. I had some some work obligations 842 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,560 out there, but we were both in town Thursday and Friday and 843 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,720 Saturday. And it was cool because you 844 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,800 could see the IU presence slowly building throughout the course 845 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040 of those two days. And I mean the local news even 846 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,720 did a package on it that got retweeted by Amanda Pavelka, if 847 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,400 you want to go check that out. I think we retweeted it too. 848 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,760 But it was just cool because it was noticeable the number of IU 849 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,640 fans there. And then in that whole lead up 850 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:15,960 before the game on Saturday, you had tons of IU people down in 851 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960 Old Town Pasadena. You know, we were in a bar and I 852 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,320 had just randomly chosen it. I, I texted you, I was like, 853 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,800 where should we do a meet up at noon? 854 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,880 And you couldn't go, But you gave me a couple options and I 855 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,480 chose one. And we went in there and I told 856 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,840 a few people and it was 98% Indiana fans. 857 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,560 They were literally like, there were a couple of people who were 858 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,840 clearly not there to watch football and everybody else was 859 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960 IU fans. And that was really cool. 860 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,520 And we saw a bunch of people there that we knew and, and 861 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,320 we're friends with. And I went up to talk to the 862 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,400 bartender when I was closing out my tab and, and he was like, you 863 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,600 guys, you guys really filled this place up. 864 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,680 Everybody's been real friendly. It's been amazing. 865 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,360 And, and it was cool to hear that. 866 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,760 And that was a sentiment I heard from a bunch of people 867 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,560 throughout the course of our time. 868 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,080 It was, it was just so awesome to watch so many people for an 869 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,840 Indiana football game come to that kind of a location and be 870 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,440 there. And, you know, just kind of the 871 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,000 that that level of energy that you can get from being part of 872 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,040 the traveling fan group. I don't know if I've ever felt 873 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680 it quite as keenly as I filled it in Pasadena this past 874 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,120 weekend. Yeah, it was. 875 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,960 I, I felt the same thing. I was out Friday hanging bump 876 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,240 around Pasadena and just bumping into a lot of IU people wearing 877 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,920 an IU hat. And it's like you, you start it, 878 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,600 it's kind of cool to kind of see it start growing and building. 879 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,760 And there was a, the the IU Alumni Association Association 880 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,400 did a very cool tailgate before the game that there's over 1000 881 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,320 people there. It was. 1200 was what they told 882 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,800 me. Yeah, it. 883 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080 Was, I mean, it was everyone was, was jovial, was excited, 884 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,200 you know what was talking about it. 885 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,320 And a lot of people had this kind of the same settlement that 886 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,880 I had is like, I, if I, you ever goes to the Rose Bowl, I'm 887 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,120 going, it's like, even though it's not the Rose Bowl game, 888 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,200 it's like it's at the Rose Bowl. I'm going and I want to see 889 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,760 this. And like we said, there was, 890 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,440 there was I, I met people who were, you know, at the game in 891 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,120 68, like just, it was a really cool vibe. 892 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,160 And then when you got into the stadium, you know, I was talking 893 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,520 to a few friends about this. It was, it was really surreal 894 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,480 just being like, we're playing UCLA. 895 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,960 It's Big 10. But you know, when, when we went 896 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,880 to like Iowa, you know, there, there's a little bit of history 897 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,800 there where, you know, you know, Iowans are kind of making fun of 898 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,480 their defense and they're kind of making fun of us because we 899 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,680 suck. And then they're kind of nice. 900 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,440 And like you go to Purdue, obviously there's a lot of, you 901 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,640 know, back and forth. And it's like with the big tent 902 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,560 you have, you have a feel for teams. 903 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,480 I, I was joking. This is like 2 fan bases being 904 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,120 on a first date where you're just like, you know, I, I do 905 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,100 love walk walks on the beach and like, Oh no, like your, your in 906 00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:38,720 laws sound fantastic. Let's go, let's go, let's travel 907 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,240 with them. And no, no, no, I like, we'll 908 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,720 just, you know, I didn't see the thing on your foot. 909 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:43,680 Like you look great. Well, you look great. 910 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,160 Well, you look awesome. It's like I'll pick up the tent. 911 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,680 Like there was no real animosity like. 912 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,440 Like, we just went deep into Scott's, like early dating 913 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,800 psyche. That was fascinating. 914 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,200 I've. Been married 19 years. 915 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:58,880 I haven't done it in a while first dating so but you know, 916 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,080 it's like they were all nice kind of in like a we're not sure 917 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,680 what to make of you kind of thing. 918 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,080 Like I had a guy in line we're waiting and he's from UCLA thing 919 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480 he's like, hey, was pegs good at IU? 920 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,240 Like he was kind of hurt a lot. But like, like, obviously like 921 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,640 we we went six and two in 2020. Like, OK, he was pretty good at 922 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,640 Washington. Like, yeah, I was like, it's but 923 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,760 it's like it's realizing like they have such little knowledge, 924 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,520 just like I don't know a lot about, you know, I didn't keep 925 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,160 up with UCLA football much and it was it was interesting that 926 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,320 dynamic. But you know, the the fan, the 927 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,520 IU fans that were there, I was saying 30%. 928 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,320 I don't think it got there. I think it was probably 20 to 929 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,720 25%, but we were engaged, they were loud, they were engaged. 930 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,680 They IU fans were really into it. 931 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,000 And you know, UCLA fans were were there, but they didn't have 932 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,560 a lot to cheer for. But definitely they were way 933 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,240 more passive and just not as into it as it felt like the IU 934 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,400 Collective was. So that was, that was really 935 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,080 fun. But it was kind of fun building 936 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,000 up to that and then getting to the game and then everyone, you 937 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,200 know, kind of just being excited and, and being into it. 938 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440 It was, it was awesome. And then it kind of it got 939 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200 really fun at the end because then all the UCLA fans left with 940 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,920 like 7 minutes to go and we're kind of like, dude, the Rose 941 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,560 Bowls are, it's like IU fans just walking all over the place 942 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,360 it. Was a it was a really special 943 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,120 moment at the end of the game and all the not all but most of 944 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,880 the IU fans congregated around the tunnel right near where our 945 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,720 seats were and saluted the team insignetti as they came off. 946 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,400 I mean, that was that was really, really special and. 947 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,840 Yeah, I mean, I was. First of all, I thought IUAA did 948 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,040 a great job with that tailgate. That was a really, really nice 949 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,200 touch, right? Big like the whole the whole 950 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:48,440 setup was interesting because the all the UCLA fans were, you 951 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,480 know, they were there was a large parking lot where you 952 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,280 tailgate in front of the Rose Bowl. 953 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,160 And then there's a golf course on the other side of the Rose 954 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,680 Bowl and people were tailgating very LA Yeah. 955 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,880 And I felt bad like of the driving across this golf course, 956 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,120 like hopefully has a tee time on Tuesday or whatever. 957 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,080 But but it was, you know, there were there were there were 958 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,040 tailgates. There were a lot of IU fans kind 959 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:13,080 of sprinkled in among that. But there was this huge tent on 960 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,080 your way to get to the stadium. And that was the IUAA event. 961 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,560 And that was really, really fun. And there was some, you know, a 962 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,920 lot of people there. Jared Jeffries was there. 963 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,600 Dean Garrett was there. Was there Scott Dolson was 964 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,240 walking around give Dolson credit like I mean it was a 965 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:30,760 hunt. It was hot in the sun. 966 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,240 He's he's full, you know, shirt tie. 967 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,600 It's like dude, you're throw on like you, you can do this shirt 968 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,560 like you don't need to go full shirt and tie, but he was he was 969 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,760 walking around talking to me. It was it was I'm with you. 970 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,440 It was very. Cool. 971 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040 And then we got it. We got to meet a ton of Crimson 972 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,400 cast listeners, some that we've we've run into before, some of 973 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,800 you brand new. We got to meet for the first 974 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,920 time. That was really special and got 975 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,840 a chance to take some pictures. It was, it was fun seeing 976 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,440 everybody out there. Everybody we met was super nice 977 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,520 and had nice things to say, so always appreciate it. 978 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,920 If you're going to, if you're going to talk to us, just be 979 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,040 nice. If you have nothing nice to say, 980 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,920 just don't. Don't talk to. 981 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640 Us are you going to mention this on every podcast you do from now 982 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,520 on? Like it's not as firmly in his 983 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,960 don't read the comments era, but the the the apple saying you're. 984 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,400 Like you're not reading the comments, but you suck Like I've 985 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,200 been waiting to tell you anyway. I was hoping someone would do 986 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,080 that. I almost, I almost paid somebody 987 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,720 5 bucks to do it, but I didn't. But I'll say this for those who 988 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:32,520 haven't been to the Rose Bowl, it's, it's a fascinating spot. 989 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,840 The, I mean, the, the, the topography around it is 990 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080 beautiful. The mountains right behind it in 991 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,720 the background. And you know, you, you go into 992 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:42,960 the entry gates and entry took longer than I think it probably 993 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,040 should have, but that's a minor complaint that happens at other 994 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,200 stadiums too and the like. The concourses are all outdoors 995 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,560 and then and there's no it. Doesn't really have a profile, 996 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,120 like it's just it's kind of just a couple feet up and runs a 997 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,240 little bit like Fenway when you're around Fenway Park or 998 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,320 like it's just it's kind of blends in. 999 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,480 Like you don't notice a 100,000 seat stadium next to you. 1000 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,240 It's just it's very blend, blend inable. 1001 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,080 And then and it's actually there's these kind of long 1002 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,440 narrow tunnels that you have to take to get into the stadium 1003 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,560 and, you know, walking through that and then popping out the 1004 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,240 other side and and you see this amazing view. 1005 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,400 We were seated on the side opposite the press box. 1006 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,040 So the sun was coming at us for a lot longer than it was the 1007 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,400 other side. But that was the nice view 1008 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,200 because you can see the mountains from that side. 1009 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,400 And so I was glad that we were over there and it was just, it 1010 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,360 was such a thing. I'll say too is like it felt 1011 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,880 like they focus on the football like for for a place that has 1012 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,080 one of the biggest bowl games ever, there's only two jumbo, 1013 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,640 you know, I wouldn't call it jumbo trials like 11 screen to 1014 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,120 our right. There was one kind of behind us 1015 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,120 and what I loved to our left on the upper side of the, you know, 1016 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,040 behind one of the end zones was like a really small it look, 1017 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,240 kind of look like the old scoreboard that IU had in 1018 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,080 Memorial Stadium. Like it just just, you know, 1019 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,400 lights. It even has the clock with the 1020 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,280 the hand, like not, you know, the the analog clock. 1021 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,280 Like it. It very much felt like, you 1022 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,960 know, hey, we're here to focus and watch the football and not 1023 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,720 not get into Dumbotron and not have, you know, hot dog cannons. 1024 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,720 There's anything wrong with that, But it's just it was very 1025 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,240 like, hey, we're here for football. 1026 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,240 I I highly recommend going to a game there. 1027 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:21,920 It really was a lot of fun and it was just it, the whole aura 1028 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,240 of the place was and I look, I've been to other like historic 1029 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,480 stadiums. I taught at the University of 1030 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,080 Miami the last year the Orange Bowl was around and the Orange 1031 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,680 Bowl was a dump. I mean, it was, it was a dump. 1032 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,440 It was so it had been so mismanaged and and poorly 1033 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,400 maintained and, and the Rose Bowl, a lot of people say, well, 1034 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,080 it's actually kind of a crappy stadium and it's not, it's it's 1035 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,080 there's not a lot of bells and whistles, right? 1036 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,320 You know, at least outside of the suites. 1037 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,000 But it was, it was not a dump. It was still a really cool 1038 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,080 place. And it just it, it kind of 1039 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,120 reminds me of Dodger Stadium. If you've ever been there to to 1040 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,320 watch baseball game, to quote Jeremy Gray, like it feels like 1041 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,880 you're in an episode of Bad Men, you know, And then the Rose Bowl 1042 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,640 was kind of like the outdoor. Concourses were cool, but just 1043 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,920 milling around there was cool. And then from where we were 1044 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,880 sitting, we were, I was kind of like 1 section over from you. 1045 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,120 But like when we're on like a 20 yard line, kind of the, the only 1046 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,800 thing that I did notice is like when the ball was going to the 1047 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,640 other end zone, I was just like, man, that is it's really far 1048 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,600 away. Like when you're Memorial 1049 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,800 Stadium, it feels tighter like then it's like, Oh yeah, this 1050 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,320 place is huge. Like this is a really big place. 1051 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,160 And you but it it, it does kind of have an intimate feel until 1052 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,640 like things are happening on the far side of the field and you're 1053 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,440 like, man, that is really far away. 1054 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,240 I know it's it was, it was definitely in that old bowl 1055 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:37,760 shape. It reminds me a lot of the Big 1056 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,560 House. It's, it's got a, it's a very 1057 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,840 similar type of build and you know, they're not that different 1058 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,720 in age. So I bumped into a guy in the 1059 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,520 Vegas airport who had also gone to the game and he saw the IU 1060 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,400 stuff. He's like, did you go to the 1061 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,240 game? And was like, yeah, he's like, 1062 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:50,440 what do you think of the Rose Bowl? 1063 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,120 And I was like, oh, I I really enjoyed it. 1064 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,600 He's like, man, he's like, he was kind of a dump. 1065 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,000 It's like, but maybe those beautiful place I've seen and 1066 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,160 I'm like, well, it can't be bowl. 1067 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,840 Like, you know, it gets to be a dump and be like, pick one, bro. 1068 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,840 I never. I never. 1069 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,480 Felt like we were missing any amenities at the Rose Bowl. 1070 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,520 I don't know why people call it a dump. 1071 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,080 I've seen dumps. That's not a dump. 1072 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,600 Northwestern Stadium is a dump. I mean, they'll, I'm sure 1073 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,040 they'll fix that with the renovation. 1074 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,240 But yeah, know your facts, right? 1075 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:20,400 Anyway, you know, the only other thing I'll say, you know, and 1076 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,360 this was something that kind of struck me when I was in the 1077 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:29,200 security line at, at the airport leaving guy, older guy saw my my 1078 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,240 logo. And it's like you, you know, 1079 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,880 Indiana, that was a, it's a hell of a game last night. 1080 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,640 And, you know, it kind of goes on and on for a bit. 1081 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,520 And he was like legitimately shocked. 1082 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,400 And at one point he says, I graduated in 1957. 1083 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,040 And I just, you know, so used to, to Indiana not winning these 1084 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,760 kinds of games and things like that. 1085 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,040 And I got to thinking about that with being at the Rose Bowl too, 1086 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,160 'cause I remember, like my dad moved to Bloomington in 1964. 1087 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,680 And so he was here for the season, that 67 season. 1088 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,880 He was actually a freshman that year at IU where they made the 1089 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,160 Rose Bowl. He didn't go. 1090 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,960 You know, you, you at that age, you weren't going to go to a 1091 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,560 game, at least not in the late 60s. 1092 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,000 And I remember, you know, him growing up, he's really the 1093 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,880 reason I'm an IU fan. And I remember him talking about 1094 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,000 that Rose Bowl season and talking about how, you know, he 1095 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,320 always wanted to go if Indiana ever got back there. 1096 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,680 So, you know, he, he passed several years ago. 1097 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,080 So it was really fun. And, and I was just kind of 1098 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,280 really emotional to be there in that moment and think about that 1099 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,000 and think about the number of people in the IU family who have 1100 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,080 had some variation of the story that I just told. 1101 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,280 And you know, these generations of fans that have wanted to go 1102 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,520 out there and experience it. I was telling you, I brought my, 1103 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,080 my family with me. I had my my 2 girls and we're 1104 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,920 walking out of there and I turned to them and I said, you 1105 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,760 do not realize how lucky you are that you were in the stands here 1106 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,520 for this. You know, and, and you know, it 1107 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,240 doesn't matter if UCLA is bad necessarily, but to be able to 1108 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:07,880 go in a game that was not a foregone conclusion, win that 1109 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,320 way and that venue and be there for history. 1110 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,120 I mean, that was the, the 1st 6 touchdowns scored by you in 1111 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,880 Roseville history. You saw them all. 1112 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,480 Is it? It's not a bowl game, but it is 1113 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,360 a step in the direction towards where I use program wants to be. 1114 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,560 And I, you know, I thought a lot about the the people we talked 1115 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,520 with, both of us independently. It was so special, especially 1116 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,040 the older fans, to be able to go to Pasadena, go to the Rose Bowl 1117 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,600 and watch IU play. That really was probably the 1118 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,920 most emotionally resonant thing of the whole weekend for me. 1119 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,200 Scott. That's, I hope that's all really 1120 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,600 well said. I'm going to I'm going to pivot 1121 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,640 because I can't follow. That was very well said. 1122 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,920 I can't follow that as well. But the thing that I was 1123 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,800 thinking, and I talked to you about this a little bit, and 1124 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,240 this is a bit of a scarecrow argument. 1125 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,440 I think IU is taking football very seriously. 1126 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,960 But you know, this is This is why football is so important is 1127 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,000 that you can have events like this. 1128 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,640 And yes, I know that people you and I've traveled for basketball 1129 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,640 games, but it just isn't quite the same. 1130 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,840 Like there's, there's pregame, like they'll do kind of events 1131 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,520 for, for, for basketball, but it's, it's just, it isn't the 1132 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,080 same. You don't draw people the same 1133 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,160 locations aren't always at the same. 1134 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,120 And it's, you just don't always have that kind of pregame feel. 1135 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,880 You know, I, I thought back to going to the Gator Bowl in 1136 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,680 Jacksonville and that was a really cool event on the water 1137 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,200 side. You got all people fired up and, 1138 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,000 and, you know, went to the Gator Bowl and, you know, there's, 1139 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,000 there's really cool venues in the Big 10 to go to. 1140 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,800 People like to travel to fun places. 1141 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,880 You're going back at USC in like 2027. 1142 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,920 There'll be a game in, you know, Seattle and Washington, you 1143 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,920 know, and, and going to events like this, you know, it also 1144 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,920 provides a, you know, side note, like my wife and I have a, we 1145 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,080 started a scholarship at the School of education for 1146 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,880 something, it's important to us. But, you know, so I, I went out 1147 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,960 with the to dinner with some people from the folks at the 1148 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,840 School of education. But it's like this is an event 1149 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,360 that allows people to like it allows the school IU to to kind 1150 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,880 of bring people together and host people and get, you know, 1151 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,840 get more donations and things that they need to do to keep 1152 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,160 going. And that alumni event was a 1153 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,640 great networking event for the, you know, I talked to the guy 1154 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,200 from the school of Ed and he's like, this has been awesome. 1155 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200 It's like a lot of people I've been trying to meet, I'm able to 1156 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,240 meet here. And, you know, for as good as 1157 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:24,040 Indiana travels for basketball, it just isn't quite the same. 1158 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,360 Like when you're going to a game at Auburn or something like you, 1159 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,400 you can kind of do it, but it's just, it isn't, it just isn't 1160 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,440 the same as as this. And I just kind of walk away. 1161 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,480 Be like, This is why it's so important that we have positive 1162 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,920 experiences like this, because now people are more likely to, 1163 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,880 you know, be like, you know what, that was fun. 1164 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,040 Like I want to go to Seattle and see a game in Washington. 1165 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,160 Like I at least know IU can, you know, they're not going to win 1166 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,560 all of them, but they, they can at least hold their head high 1167 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,000 and, you know, make themselves proud and, and we can travel 1168 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,120 with them and like, I'm not scared to go to Iowa again, you 1169 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,760 know, things like that. But it's just, it is, it is just 1170 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,040 so important for a university to have a functional team and to 1171 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,240 have events like this, because I'm, I'm always impressed by how 1172 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,240 many people from IU show out. And I think there's a lot of 1173 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,560 people in Pasadena who weren't, didn't even go to the game, who 1174 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,240 were just walking around with IU stuff and just all all the 1175 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:15,680 flights. Obviously we're flying back to 1176 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,760 Indiana. So it's going to be a lot of IU 1177 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,880 folks. But it's just like you, you see 1178 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,160 people there and, you know, we bump into like, think about bed 1179 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,720 at the airport. Some I haven't seen in like 12 1180 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,280 years. It's just it, it's such a great 1181 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,840 moment to bring people together, gather and kind of give you a 1182 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,720 reason to get there. So I just it that was kind of my 1183 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,120 main take away is like, This is why it's so important and I'm so 1184 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,800 happy that we're having these moments with IU football. 1185 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,440 Couldn't have said it any better myself. 1186 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,200 I will also leave that one so. Fever dreamtime. 1187 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,640 Let's just fever dream. Come on, let's fever dream it So 1188 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,520 let's let's wait. I want to hold. 1189 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,400 I I don't want. I want. 1190 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,920 To end on the note, let's just let's end on the note we just 1191 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,840 ended on. You're right, you're right. 1192 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,760 Cut that nice romantic than I am. 1193 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,160 No, no, we've got some nice romantic music playing. 1194 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,840 The credits are starting to roll. 1195 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,840 I think let's just lean into that. 1196 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,800 Sorry, sorry. It's OK. 1197 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,440 I I it's great. Anyway, we'll go ahead and wrap 1198 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,960 up as again, just a a, a an amazing week, an amazing weekend 1199 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,880 for IU 3 and O on the season. 42 to 13 winners at the Rose Bowl 1200 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,000 against UCLA and there'll be an action this coming Saturdays. 1201 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,880 They take on Charlotte. We'll have programming 1202 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,080 throughout the course of the week. 1203 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,520 Scott, any final thoughts? No, I think we hit it well. 1204 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,680 All right, folks. For Scott, I'm Galen. 1205 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,480 Thank you to Home Field Apparel, Thank you to Who's your game day 1206 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,160 logger brought to you by Upland Brewing Company. 1207 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,320 Thanks to everybody that we saw out in Los Angeles and we look 1208 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,560 forward to talking with you all again. 1209 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,720 For Scott, I'm Galen. We'll catch you folks. 1210 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,960 On the flip side, bring back to Bison. 1211 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:56,120 So long everybody. Goodbye YouTube.