1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,720 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Field Apparel. All right, folks, welcome back 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,640 to Crimson Cast. Scott here with you programming. 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Note that this was honestly the plan today as I was watching the 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,320 game. Galen is in route today to New 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,680 York and he was able to land at like 11:00 today. 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,480 Not to give away is where it's, you know, 5 million people 8 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,560 there. It's but he's there and he's 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,520 able to watch the game and we're like, maybe we'll try and 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,480 connect today and do a pod. Not sure. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,040 And then I was watching the game and I fly out tomorrow at 5:00 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,800 AM, Good, good times on American Airlines, like 5:30 AM And then 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,480 I'm flying into New York. So I was like, you know, I was 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,600 like, all right, you know, if if we win, that's nice. 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,960 If we lose, it's going to be a bummer. 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,640 It's like I, you know, we're kind of like we love you as the 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,640 listeners. We're kind of like, all right, 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,680 maybe we can do something tomorrow. 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,840 We can figure it out. And then that game happened. 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,040 It was kind of what I was expecting in the end of the game 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,920 is just like it's I've got to talk to somebody. 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,520 I've got to put something out. There's a chance that Galen and 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,120 I connect at some point later on today as we get ready for, yeah, 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,920 meeting up in New York tomorrow. But I've had to have our friend 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Taylor Lehman on before. We get to Taylor who's sitting 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,200 here waiting and smiling and has all kinds of thoughts. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,800 I want to say we are a proud probably sponsored by the home 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,320 network. For any of you guys who are 29 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:38,960 going to New York tomorrow and Monday, Home Field Apparel, I'm 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,520 sorry, part of the home network, we're sponsored by Home Field 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,600 Apparel. Home Field Apparel is doing a 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,280 kind of a meet and greet and a watch an event before the games 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,640 at Madison Square Garden at the Storehouse in New York. 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,040 So check out their website for that. 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,960 I will be there tomorrow morning. 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,680 I'll be tired and maybe cranky from a long flight, a short 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,880 flight, but it'll be early morning. 38 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,800 But I will be there. I think it's 9:00 AM. 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,680 They start the storehouse tomorrow on Sunday and then 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,240 they're doing it again Monday before the game. 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,080 So go check it out. They're going to have a pop up 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,240 store. They're going to have sales. 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,520 So you can use the promo code HOME 23 today for 15% off your 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 first purchase and then go to the event tomorrow and go even 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,320 get more and get more stuff. So check out home field apparel. 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Taylor, thank you for hopping on on such such short notice. 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,480 You can tell him I'm already a little bit. 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,920 I was not prepared to pod, I'm having trouble. 49 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:29,480 I'm. I'm stumbling over my words more 50 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,320 than normal. Normal. 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,240 But Taylor, how you doing, man? I'm good, I'm good. 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Scott, thanks for having me on. I'm looking forward to, you know 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,440 these reaction pods like I, you know, jumping into some of the 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,920 data and stuff, but a lot of it largely is just reactionary, 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,080 right? So I'm looking forward to 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 hearing your thoughts and kind of working towards shaping my 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,600 own around this game that. I think a lot of people have a 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,280 lot of thoughts and a lot of different thoughts. 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,240 But yeah, I mean this is different than it you and I did 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,480 this for another game this season. 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,920 It's a little different than what we normally do here on 62 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:00,760 Crimson Cast. Normally we get a little bit of 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,760 time some time to look into the data. 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 I mean even like the I normally go to like the just the IU 65 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,200 schedule page, they have a good box score. 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,360 It's like that's not even up yet. 67 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,880 So it's like you know I'm I'm on game on paper I'm I'm looking at 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,520 some just like random Google box score. 69 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,480 It's like a lot of the stats aren't even up yet. 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,800 This is a little different, but you know for me, I know you have 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,600 thoughts outside the last 30 seconds or so. 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,000 For me, what really stood out was the last like 40 seconds of 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,040 this game, which think stood out for a lot of people. 74 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:32,680 You know, the game was, I'll leave some of the the thoughts 75 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,840 for the rest of the game to you. I mean, for me, I'm, I'm 76 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,040 watching the game and it's like there's moments where you know, 77 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Hauser for Michigan State's having trouble finding, you 78 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,520 know, hitting open receivers. And I'm like, man, this this 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Michigan State team is they're not good. 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,440 It's like, Oh yeah, we're down by 7. 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,160 Like we're down, but we're down to them. 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,280 Like you're watching them at, like, reminding me very much of 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,400 that Wisconsin game where it's like this is just a wounded 84 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,120 team. But I'm sure that the exact same 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 could be said if you were a Michigan State fan watching the 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 game. But here's the thing. 87 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,600 So Michigan State scores that final touchdown in a play where 88 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,080 it's just like that guy was not like #6, which is not going to 89 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,760 be tackled, just bounces around. We have like 3 guys touching, I 90 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,280 mean towards touchdown, whatever, we drive the ball 91 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,320 down. It's awesome. 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,320 I'm going to layout. I know people watch it. 93 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,800 I'm just going to lay out what what happened and my thoughts 94 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 behind it because it's to me, it's kind of staggering what 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,640 happened. And so we we finished with an 8 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,640 yard passing play. So we have the ball in the 97 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Michigan State 28. It's third and two. 98 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 There's 22 seconds to go. You're down by three. 99 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Soresby throws a pass to the end zone. 100 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,440 There's maybe some pass interferes though. 101 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,040 Like I think it actually might have looked worse than it 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,160 actually was. Like I'm not sure there was Pi. 103 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,680 That's a whole different discussion. 104 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,800 We can have that. I I I can see where you can see 105 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,680 there's Pi also. Don't think it was egregious. 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,360 I don't think it was a horrible call either way. 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Obviously it's not call because it's Indiana. 108 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,320 We don't get those calls. And so now you kind of get this 109 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Crucible of a decision and you know, so it's 4th and 118 110 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,040 seconds to go. Indiana has two timeouts. 111 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,520 I'm actually, to be fair at this point, I'm thinking I kind of 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,000 like just going for it like you've had some missed field 113 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,560 goals this season. I don't want to say not what are 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,120 you playing for, but like let's let's go for it. 115 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,360 Like we're trying to win games. We're trying to win trophies. 116 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,360 We're we're maybe we're in trophy mode not playoff mode but 117 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,600 like let's let's win some games. So I got no problem going for 118 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,080 truth be told I got no problem going for it. 119 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,640 So we line up for a field goal. I'm like, all right like that's 120 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,640 kind of the. But you know what that's even 121 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,600 that's not a bad decision in my mind either. 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,520 It's like you can go for, you can kick a field goal. 123 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,080 As always happens. We pick like this random third 124 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,480 door that didn't didn't know existed. 125 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,040 That's like the worst of all options. 126 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,200 So Michigan State calls a timeout. 127 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,760 You now have even more time. Taylor, I'm not picking on you 128 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,000 to think it over. So then you line up for a field 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 goal. Fine. 130 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,280 But then IU calls a timeout. So we waste one of our timeouts. 131 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,800 Again, these are late game situations. 132 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Timeouts are important. Tom Allen needs to play Madden, 133 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,440 like just needs to have some time playing Madden, getting 134 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,720 used to these moments. So we call a time out like that. 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Time out is I'm going to take a pause right here. 136 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,960 We'll stop at this point before we got to this point. 137 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,360 We have more to go. That is a baffling time out to 138 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,840 me, Taylor. Like, no matter what you're 139 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:26,760 deciding to do, that time out makes zero sense in my mind. 140 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Yeah. Yeah, Scott I. 141 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 And. I've noticed this whenever it 142 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,640 gets into field goal range right and and I I don't think we, I 143 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,600 don't think IU has kicker on the roster that they trust. 144 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,960 And I think that that's kind of at the heart of this and I think 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,280 whenever it whenever they get down into this area of the 146 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,720 field, they're just really hoping they get past it. 147 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,440 You know, just get a little bit closer so that they have a 148 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,320 higher percentage chance of hitting these field goals. 149 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,280 Even though free, you know, Chris Freeman has hit some. 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,640 A couple, you know, I think he had a 42 and then A50 yarder, 151 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,800 you know, he's shown that he can hit these field goals. 152 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,480 But I just, I don't think that they really actually trust him. 153 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,880 And I think that was kind of at the heart of some of these moves 154 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,800 and later in the game, which, you know, that's something that 155 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,760 that's an offseason issue. No, I completely agree. 156 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,480 And anyway, so it's like, if you don't, if you want to kick the 157 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,720 field goal, just kick the field goal, that's fine. 158 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,720 If you want to burn another time out there to give, I guess 159 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,720 you're icing your own kicker, I don't know, but kick field goal. 160 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,240 But so you you, you just completely just kick the time 161 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,200 out into the sun. It's gone fine. 162 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,360 So then you run it up the gut, which you barely get that first 163 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,800 down, but you get it. But now you can't call a time 164 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,040 out because you just kicked one away 12 seconds ago. 165 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,400 So you you have to run a play. You could like, spike it, but 166 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,960 you don't. And then you run a busted play. 167 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Busted plays can happen, Taylor. Like, that's fine. 168 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,880 This is college. But to me it's like even more 169 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,320 infuriating because you created a situation where you just you 170 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,240 can't have that busted play. It obviously gets called for 171 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,320 intentional grounding, but it's like you you gave yourself an 172 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,480 extra 2 1/2 minutes of lead time. 173 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,200 You knew you were going to go for it, like you had to have. 174 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,240 You knew you were running that play up the middle. 175 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,600 You have to be scripting 2 plays there. 176 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,200 You can't use the time out, take all of that time and then screw 177 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,520 up that second play. You just can't. 178 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Like if you're going to go for this, you have to trust the 179 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 execution of your team or do things that work. 180 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,880 But like, that's the infuriating part of all of this is like, it 181 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,559 was totally intentional grounding. 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,520 It was a busted play. It sucked, but it's like to me, 183 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,600 it's it's not as simple as just like, oh man, well stuff 184 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,200 happens. Like, no. 185 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Like you created a situation where everyone was rushed and 186 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,920 busy, but like, it shouldn't have been and you've had all 187 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,000 this extra time because you're wasted time out. 188 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,080 Yeah, yeah, no. And and some people have been 189 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,440 tweeting about the the the rule itself for intentional grounding 190 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,080 the the quarterback has to be under pressure, I think. 191 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 I wouldn't have considered but Soresby with that situation I I 192 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 wouldn't have considered that under pressure right. 193 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,040 I I don't know if I agree with the intentional grounding call 194 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,040 even even by even by the rule itself. 195 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,400 But I mean I there has to be some room for subjectivity in 196 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,240 there to to because it was clearly a miscommunication. 197 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,400 But no, you're, I mean you're absolutely right and and kind of 198 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,480 what my mind goes back to is, you know. 199 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,360 If you name your starting quarterback before we hate, 200 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,600 maybe something like that doesn't happen, you know, so 201 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,680 that's that's kind of, that's kind of where my mind went when 202 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:40,520 I saw the play happen. Like every time there's a 203 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,080 miscommunication like that, I'm like, you know, maybe if this 204 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,000 quarterback and receiver had more time to work together 205 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,360 before the season started or even, you know, throughout the 206 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,640 season, it would have been, it would have had a different 207 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,440 result. But that was just a mess, man. 208 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,600 And I I I could not believe that it happened. 209 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,360 I was, I was, I was kind of speechless. 210 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,400 I was like, I I mean, I know IU football, you know, like, I know 211 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,040 these things happen to this program. 212 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,000 But you know, there's just always unique ways. 213 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,520 There's always a unique way that they're losing these games. 214 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 I know. And then the minute they got 215 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,560 pushed back, it's like we all knew they were missing that 216 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,040 field goal that just was not a makeable. 217 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,280 There's a world, too where you just like, I'm Tom Allen, just 218 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,880 call time out and just get another penalty. 219 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Like just yell at the rest of the point, you get another 220 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,400 penalty and then you don't kick field ball. 221 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,480 You can just go for a for a shotgun play. 222 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,480 But I mean there's an alternate universe where and again this is 223 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,400 also I I would say that like there's two situations here 224 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,280 where it's like I like going for it is one, like that's one 225 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,600 decision point. Go for it or not go for it. 226 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,800 The thing that never gets brought up is like what play are 227 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,560 you running like that's the other part of this where I can 228 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:55,960 like going for it but say that play call sucked and like then 229 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,480 overall the decision was bad or you can be like that was not go 230 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,360 for it is you know it's a little different like you kicking the 231 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,080 field goal but too often it's like people just like I you know 232 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,800 I shouldn't have gone for it. It's like no, I I again I like 233 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,280 going for it. I think the play call sucked 234 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,400 like again this run up the middle that you barely get that 235 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,760 just I know they stopped the clock for a second but then 236 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,840 you're stuck with this like running clock you you don't have 237 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,280 the timeout. It's like my thing would be is 238 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,000 an alternate universe where the two times we were close to the 239 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 end zone we run that little sweet play with the tight end 240 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,720 that worked perfectly one time with Bamba second time with I'm 241 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,760 not even walking. Well yeah you know it worked 242 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,680 twice and like there's a world where maybe you run that play 243 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,720 like look at this like a Cleo you're 4th and one you run that 244 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,920 play. I know I'm getting kind of 245 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,480 alternate university here, but maybe you get 567 yards, you get 246 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,120 that boom, you call a timeout. You have 12 seconds to go. 247 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Now you have some time now you can take a shot, you can get 248 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,400 everyone lined up. It's not like you're trying to 249 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,600 get 2 plays in at a time. Now you got one shot at the end 250 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,920 zone. Maybe people are lined up. 251 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,520 You still have a time out in your pocket. 252 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,320 So if Soresby gets sacked, it's like time out, boom, you still 253 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,360 got the field goal. Like that's a much better setup 254 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,200 of this game versus I I still just can't get to the we're 255 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,360 going to line up for field goal and then time out our self and 256 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,200 then come up and try and run 2 plays in a row in 12 seconds. 257 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,160 But I just, I think that play on 4th and one was also a really 258 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,400 bad play called. It's like it's always that play 259 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:27,400 like the the the run up the gut where you're trying to get a 260 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,440 half a yard. Like, has that ever been a good 261 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,000 play for IU? Right, right. 262 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,520 No. And kind of along the lines of 263 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,800 what you were saying and I forgot to mention earlier, but 264 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,760 about the the past that was called ungrounding I think. 265 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,080 You know, I don't know for sure, but based off what it based off 266 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,760 miscommunication that was there. Usually that is, you're telling 267 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,680 the receiver to to go out, and then the quarterback and 268 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,400 receiver are reading the coverage, and the receiver must 269 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,120 have read that he wanted to stop the route and run a hitch, get 270 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,440 that quick gain of yardage and potentially stop the clock by 271 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,920 getting out of balance or something along those lines. 272 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,080 But Soresby must have read it as there was an option there to go 273 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,680 deep. And so he threw that ball and I 274 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:09,040 think that was actually pretty decent play call if it would 275 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,360 have worked. No, I agree. 276 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,880 And it's. I don't want to pick. 277 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,720 I mean you kind of are like, I don't, I'm not even sure who the 278 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,000 receiver was if it was Carter, I don't know who was out there. 279 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,440 But it's like there also is like situational awareness where it's 280 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,120 like if you're, you know, so it's a it's a running clock. 281 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,680 I think there's 12 seconds to go. 282 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Soresby's back. Like, you only have one time out 283 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,400 left because you burned one. If you're the wide receiver, 284 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,320 it's like you can't cut the route short at the 10 yard line. 285 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,560 Like what? What does that do? 286 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,440 Like even if you get the ball out of bounds, you probably 287 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,240 still can't run another play. Like with 12 seconds to go in 288 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,680 one time out, needing a field goal to tie, you got one shot at 289 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,200 a touchdown. So like, that's the other piece 290 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,360 of, like, the situational awareness that that I do. 291 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,440 Like everyone in the field just has to know. 292 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,200 Like that doesn't. Maybe if you're doing a slight 293 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,360 hitch and go but like you still should have been going to the 294 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,200 end zone like there's there's no world we're cutting the route 295 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,920 short and catching it at the 12 yard line or the 10 yard line 296 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,360 makes any sense. And again, this is where in my 297 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,840 alternate reality universe, even if you just run that crappy up 298 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,280 the middle play, you call a timeout, you bring everyone 299 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,440 together and just let, hey, you got to be in the end zone. 300 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,200 Like do not catch the ball if you're not. 301 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,240 If you're 5 yards out, just bat it out of bounds. 302 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,760 Like you have time to do that. This is the the the problem you 303 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,240 have. And like you mentioned, 304 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,120 something about how Allen does. It seems like we get very 305 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,880 nervous when we're in field goal range, like when the Crucible 306 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,440 gets tough and when the decisions start to get very 307 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,120 pressurized and quick. It does feel like he makes the 308 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,000 wrong decision and kind of goes for like the, you know, I I 309 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,160 think of this kind of like coach speak, coaches always like, you 310 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,480 know, on to the next game and that's tough. 311 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,440 You know, players play hard like they just have coach speak and 312 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,760 they just kind of go in the zone. 313 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Like feels like he goes in this coaching zone like well, I'm 314 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,680 just going to call time. Like I call time out and like 315 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 you just do this kind of the random coaching stuff, like 316 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 that's not always the right call, just always calling time 317 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,200 out or always doing what, you know, you've seen coaches do for 318 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,400 30 years. Yeah, yeah, I know when when the 319 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,360 game was actually when the game was started, the very beginning 320 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,280 of the game, they were showing Tom Allen on the sidelines and 321 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,880 I've often wondered this but. But when his team is on offense, 322 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,920 I'm, I'm always wondering what's going through his head. 323 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,920 Like what what is he, what's he thinking? 324 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,120 This team's not he looks very nervous. 325 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,880 He always looks nervous. He looks very nervous and and 326 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,440 I'm like, what what is the process here? 327 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,640 What's going through? Tom Allen said When this team's 328 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,840 on offense because. No. 329 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Yeah I mean you're you're right the the the usage of timeouts 330 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,440 and I didn't even think before this this like 42nd period that 331 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,400 that you wanted to highlight. I don't even think before that 332 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,600 the timeouts were used in egregious ways. 333 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,640 I thought they, I thought it was OK it was just like when they 334 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,600 got there. What was the issue then? 335 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Yeah, no, I'm I I totally agree. So I don't know that those are, 336 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,400 those are my thoughts at the end of the game. 337 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,440 You know they they probably could have kicked a field goal. 338 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,440 I don't know if they would have made it honestly because we've 339 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,320 not had good field goal kicking all season. 340 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 So like I said I I think going forward is fine. 341 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Just it's like that was probably the worst series to the series 342 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 of events and the way to go for it it's like you're you're kind 343 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,960 of but you're not like you're just if you're going to do it 344 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:18,800 just go for it And then that you know I I again that third down 345 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,600 play where Soresby throws it and it's pass interference. 346 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,760 I like that play, but this is again where I I always have to 347 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,480 question like the longer term thinking of you know, Tom Allen 348 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,720 and the coaching staff is like, you know you get a 8 yard pass 349 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,440 to get to 3rd and two at that point, you know you kind of have 350 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,320 to commit at that point. What's your plan for 4th down? 351 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800 And it never feels like we're doing that because if your plan 352 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,480 is to go forward on 4th down you probably shouldn't throw a fade 353 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,880 to the end zone at third and two. 354 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Like what you should be trying to do is go for you know a 7 355 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,560 yard play there and then if you don't get it you know you can 356 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,400 run it in or like you know the the second down play that you 357 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,560 got the 8 yards that's probably the like it always it just it, 358 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,960 it feels like if you knew you were going to go for it the 359 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,440 whole time that was just the wrong way to kind of stack the 360 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,319 way that you did things. And and I I agree and I totally 361 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,119 believe like I don't think they thought they were going to go 362 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,319 for it until like I the question I would love to know Michigan 363 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:23,119 State calls the time out. We come out and line up for the 364 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,920 field goal. What is the plan like? 365 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Was that was that were they thinking of kicking the field 366 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,080 goal And then he called the time out to change his mind. 367 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,880 Were we doing like that? Like, I I would love to know. 368 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,440 Why did you do that? Like, were you trying to see 369 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,400 what Michigan State's coverage was on a field goal? 370 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,560 Like I I don't know. Did they just get cold feet on 371 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,200 the field goal you know yeah it's it's like yeah, I I don't 372 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,320 know I yeah, no I'm with you the the the the time out after the 373 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Michigan State time out was. Just bizarre. 374 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,120 Yeah, it was. That's the end. 375 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,200 I mean, I think that's about as much as besides me just ranting 376 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,960 the same things over and over again for the end of the game 377 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,320 situation. You had other thoughts for the 378 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,440 game as a whole. I mean, it was, you know, it was 379 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,760 what you'd expect from 2-3 and seven teams. 380 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Like not an amazing. I mean, and you watch the game, 381 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,280 it's like I'm tired of hearing the announcers talk about 382 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,480 spitting into the spittoon. It's a whole other side note, 383 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,880 but what were your thoughts on the the game as a whole? 384 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,240 Because I know you had some thoughts outside of the The 42nd 385 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Crucible at the end. I thought it was lifeless, you 386 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,920 know, But the game in general was lifeless. 387 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,480 Like it felt like, you know, just the people that we could 388 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,040 like, you know, picture pictures of the the attendance of the 389 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,560 stadium beforehand, which I'm sure it filled in more. 390 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,200 That's always how it goes. And and and knowing that there 391 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,000 were 8 seniors out there who were recruited by IU out of high 392 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,840 school. Out of the 26 on the roster who 393 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,160 were having their senior day in front of this, like sparse 394 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,360 crowd, not a great start for the game, I thought. 395 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,440 But I I just, I thought the game in general just a kind of felt 396 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,600 inconsequential and lifeless, you know, Like, I it didn't feel 397 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,400 like a a trophy game. And if the broadcast didn't 398 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,840 mention this platoon, I don't think a lot of people would have 399 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,280 been thinking about it. And you know, but anyway, I 400 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,640 mean. It was a Michigan State team. 401 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,120 I mean, this team obviously lost his head coach earlier this 402 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:23,000 year. Katyn Hauser is like their third 403 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,640 quarterback. They've played in the game this 404 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,480 year and and he's graded by PFF as the worst in the country of 405 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,480 all the quarterbacks with at least 100 drop backs. 406 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,280 And then he was 4 yards shy of his career high at halftime 407 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,440 against IU because the secondary apparently can't stop anyone. 408 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,880 So I'm sure Hudson, Hudson, Carlo have a hell of a week next 409 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,960 week, but no I. I mean, but honestly the and and 410 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,320 so then, you know Michigan State has what is like just shy of 20 411 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,720 inactive players and it just it was a game that Indiana should 412 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,760 have handled. But this this whole situation 413 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,200 that we've just been talking about shouldn't even happen 414 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,720 because they should have. They should have handled the 415 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,080 game and and and and you know it's not exactly in Indiana's 416 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,880 DNA to do that. But I just thought the the the 417 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,360 circumstances were. Extenuating enough where they 418 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,800 could potentially do it, but I mean, just looking at Scott the 419 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,240 the The Game on Paper report and their successful plays on 420 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,800 offense, they had a 60% success rate. 421 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080 That is insane. That's like that's that is one 422 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,480 of the highest that you're going to see in college football this 423 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,840 year. It's 60% and they scored 21 424 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,480 points like I and so I was looking, I was like how does 425 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,600 that happen and and so obviously I'm going to dig into it deeper 426 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,800 later on. But most of it I think was just 427 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,160 like field position. I mean they they when they start 428 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,960 their drives you just look at the first half and they start 429 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,320 they don't, they don't start a drive actually the entire game. 430 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,720 They don't start their drive further down the field than 431 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,680 their own 30 yard line. I mean that's according to the 432 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,600 stat broadcast. But like I guess you know you 433 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160 can have all the success you want on offense but it's going 434 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560 to be a little a little tougher sledding when that's your field 435 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,480 position. You know. 436 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,040 So I think that contributed to some of some of it but I mean 437 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,200 the defense that you just got to stop somebody you know that this 438 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,240 is not AI mean this is one of the worst offenses in the 439 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,680 country like statistically and and and they you know I mean 440 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,840 they they it didn't blow up the box score by any means They only 441 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,400 had a 39% success rate and and but when they were passing they 442 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,320 had a 47% success rate from Kate and Howser like I mean I know 443 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,400 Malik Carr is a is a really good high end and and he really 444 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,720 burned Indiana on a lot of ways really showed that the secondary 445 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:54,480 has to hit the weight room a bit But you know I I just I thought 446 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,560 that Indiana should not have been in this situation at the 447 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,080 end of the game anyway and and I I, you know it's just the second 448 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,000 week in a row where the defense is just kind of let the offense 449 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,480 down. Yeah. 450 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,960 I mean. I, I, I I agree it. 451 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,080 I I go to Galen's you know pregame podcast about this and I 452 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,120 think his analogy that he's used a lot is very apartment. 453 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Of like a boat that just has holes and every time you plug 454 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,440 something it's like another thing another hole pops up and 455 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,440 then it's like all right well that one's plugs we'll get take 456 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,840 care of this one. You plug the new hole and it's 457 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,160 like the other one that you plugged pops up and it's like we 458 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,480 need to get sure seal like the guy in the you know 22 AM and 459 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,840 infomercials you know filling a boat with his sure seal glue. 460 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,440 We need that guy because I I hear you. 461 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,720 But on the flip side, like you look at, you know, you know. 462 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Plays per drive. In this game, Indiana has 9 463 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720 plays per drive. Michigan State has seven. 464 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,160 Michigan State's only getting 38 yards a drive. 465 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,160 Indiana getting is getting 52. You know the defense played, you 466 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,480 know they held Michigan State to 17 points until the last drive. 467 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320 And like that's where it's like you just need one last stop. 468 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,640 Like you're up 2117. You need to lot not let car, you 469 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,360 know, pinball through 12 people and score a touchdown. 470 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,720 But they do. And like that is where it's like 471 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,200 it pops up. So I I I think that, you know if 472 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,720 the defense had held Michigan State to 17 and Indiana wins 473 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,160 this game 21, I think 2117, I think we're like, hey man, like 474 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,840 that was, you know they they held where they had to. 475 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,040 And I think the numbers, you're right. 476 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,440 But the numbers would have looked OK and the defensive 477 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,880 numbers actually look OK. The trouble is, like when you 478 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,840 needed that last stop, it happened and like that's where 479 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240 it's like the another hole sprung in the boat. 480 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,480 And you suddenly you're down 24 to 21. 481 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,520 You have a minute left and now you're scrambling. 482 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,960 And it also covers up the fact that you know on a positive 483 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,200 note, another you know pretty good offensive game out of 484 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480 Brendan Soresby. The receivers are looking good 485 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,760 and guys are this is, this is a great way to end the season. 486 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,320 This is just like pitch and catch for Soresby. 487 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Like no one's playing defense in any of these games. 488 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,200 Soresby finishes, you know, 19 for 35, not great, but 197 489 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600 yards, 2 touchdowns. You know it. 490 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,440 It looks like we have our starter, you know, well named. 491 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000 I'm so excited to see how we mess this up in the offseason 492 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,840 and how we do a 12 man quarterback battle to start next 493 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,040 year. But Soresby looks like the guy 494 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,360 and and again your defense gets 2 takeaways. 495 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,960 Like everything lined up right and I I focused a lot in those 496 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,480 last 40 seconds, but I'll go back and focus on that last 497 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,800 defensive Dr. It's like that is. I I think back to Galen's 498 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,400 comments about just like you know the the the boat popping 499 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,640 holes and it feels like, you know they they actually played a 500 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,360 pretty good game. You hold the team to 17, that's 501 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,360 good. But it's like at the the last 502 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,960 moment and This is why. Like this team is just really 503 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,960 hard to trust, is in all facets, whether it's the defense or the 504 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,200 offense or the coaching or the special teams when you really 505 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,640 need them. I don't think anybody feels like 506 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,600 I can trust this team to get it done. 507 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Yeah I will say the the rushing defense was was really 508 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,480 effective. I mean they only had 72 yards 509 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,240 rushing. It just seemed like whenever 510 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,640 they needed a play they could turn to Kate and Hauser to to 511 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,040 find either car or foster somewhere in the secondary you 512 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,160 know. But no I agree. 513 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,960 I I think I yeah if if it was a 17 if they if it was a 17 point 514 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,240 game for Michigan State. I do think we would have walked 515 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,560 away thinking that the defense had a pretty productive day and 516 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,520 I I I just you know there were just I I guess it was just more 517 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,560 like there were just some moments you know some some 518 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,440 moments where you know it's tied at 14 late in the third quarter 519 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,200 they get the interception from Jamari Sharp and and he fumbles 520 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,040 it and he turns it back over. You know like it's it it was 521 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,360 just a collection of moments that that kind of led up to it. 522 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,920 It just always kind of felt like OK this game is going to end in 523 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,640 some stupid way. You know like it wasn't going to 524 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,920 be as as the as the third quarter was going on and it 525 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,000 seemed like neither team wanted to win this game and it was tied 526 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,600 at 14. It was like OK you know the time 527 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,520 is the clock keeps going down points don't keep going up on 528 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,320 the board some stupid thing is going to happen because 529 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,320 something has to give and it and it did. 530 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,240 It really did. But I mean yeah, the defense on 531 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,960 that, on that last drive, you know when Malik Carr scored, 532 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,240 obviously there was the the holding penalty that that wasn't 533 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,640 called and I think they probably should have been called. 534 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,640 But at the end of the day it's, you know when I'm thinking about 535 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:39,320 penalties, you know I I I am very slow to to credit penalties 536 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,880 with losses or for losses. I think that there are always 537 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,480 things that could have been done beforehand that that didn't give 538 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,520 the officials that power. And you know there were three 539 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,760 late in the game that's really tough to overcome. 540 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,720 But you know that that holding penalty on the last drive is 541 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,360 probably what what people will point to mostly as you know, 542 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,760 what kept the defense from stopping Michigan State on that 543 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000 drive. But you know it. 544 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,640 It is what it is. And and I I, yeah, I mean, yeah, 545 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,880 I don't have anything else there, Scott. 546 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,120 No. No, I'm, I'm with you. 547 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600 It's it. You know, I I don't have the 548 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,400 drive chart here. They can't play the drive chart 549 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,960 game. It's not up or I'm not finding 550 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,680 the right box score that has it as we're doing this. 551 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,120 But I hear you on that and it's like you have the holding 552 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,960 penalty on the Michigan State score. 553 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,440 You have the oh, that's cool. Zoom's giving me like a thumbs 554 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,400 up bubble, 'cause I'm doing a thumbs up to you, you have the 555 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,240 holding penalty. On the the Michigan State score 556 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,160 you have the non pass interference on the you know the 557 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 the third third down play and then you have the uncatchable 558 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,720 ball penalty that is called. All three of those were very 559 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,640 suspect and it does it does suck. 560 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,160 But I'm also with you when you have a three and seven team that 561 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 it's like you shouldn't be that close. 562 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,760 You know, I I go back to the the idea of the furthest, you know, 563 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,600 coach, speak many different places. 564 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,320 But like, just never let the game be so close that you're 565 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,560 giving the officials a chance to decide the game. 566 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,360 Like, get up by, you know, in basketball, get up by 10 points 567 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,720 in football, get up by 10 or 1214 points. 568 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,640 And then it's like, yeah, the calls suck and that that's no 569 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,680 fun, but it's like. If if you would have stopped, 570 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,360 just do something along those points. 571 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,120 And to your point, the game was 1414, It felt like for an 572 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,200 unbelievably long amount of time, like put up some points 573 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,480 there, get up by 24 to 14, and then those plays don't hurt you 574 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,320 as much. You're not letting the officials 575 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,000 decide these games because while it sucks and all of those calls, 576 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280 I think you could have a real argument. 577 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,200 We're not great now. I've been watching IU football 578 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,120 for 40 years now. You've been watching for, you 579 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,520 know, 1520 years. You know, we're not at a level 580 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,800 we're going to get the benefit of the doubt in calls. 581 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880 And so you have to assume that you're going to get calls go 582 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 against you and that's unfortunately something an 583 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Indiana team has to fight and and and learn to, to go through. 584 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,880 Yeah, yeah, Scott. And then one thing I wanted to 585 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120 make sure to touch on because I saw people talking about this on 586 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,400 on Twitter was the Indiana drive that started at the end of the 587 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560 third quarter and ended the beginning of the fourth quarter. 588 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,480 They went 14 plays for 66 yards. It lasted 5 1/2 minutes and and 589 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,240 and they got down to the Michigan State 33 yard line and 590 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,840 there were some some folks who thought they should have kicked 591 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,760 the field goal on 4th and short instead of going for it in which 592 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,640 they went for it. They turned it over on downs and 593 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,520 then what what did Michigan, Michigan State went down and 594 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,520 kicked their field goal to go up 17 to 14. 595 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,560 So as all this was happening a lot of folks were saying, well 596 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,320 it would have been really nice to have that field goal. 597 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,600 But if you do the math, I mean we add 17 yards for every field 598 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,240 goal. So that that'd be a 50 yard 599 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,120 field goal from Chris Freeman which was actually 2 yards 600 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,720 longer than the one at the end of the game. 601 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,600 I don't think I would have been comfortable putting him in that 602 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,320 situation even though he's hit 50, a 50 yard field goal before. 603 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,440 But it kind of goes back to what we were talking about before 604 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,520 where you know I I don't know if they know exactly what the cut 605 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,160 off is for where they want to take a Chris Freeman field goal 606 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,640 or not. And and I I think that there's 607 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,800 just always there's just been like a bunch of like the 608 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000 foundation of their kicking of their place kicking game has 609 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,240 been sand the entire year like they there's nothing solid there 610 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:39,280 and and it's just like little things like that going forward 611 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840 on that 4th down when you know if you had a kicker you could 612 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,800 rely on then you could kick that field goal for 50 yards. 50 613 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,520 yards is still pretty young long for a college kicker, but, well, 614 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,280 but it goes to that. It goes to. 615 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,320 That idea of, you know that, then you should know that this 616 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120 is, again, one of the struggles I have with where Indiana 617 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520 football is, is just like have an identity and feel like you 618 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,800 have a plan for the game. And what I mean is, like, 619 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,400 everything you're saying is 100% dead on. 620 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,920 If I was the coaching staff and I'd just go in and be like, all 621 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240 right, you know, hey, unless we're within 25 yards, like 622 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,400 we're going for it, like just that. 623 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,080 That's the call. Like we're just so now. 624 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 And you know hey you know offensive coordinator you can 625 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,920 plan on just going for it. So if we're in we're on the 40 626 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960 yard line and it's second and five. 627 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640 You know you got to you know you're going you're going to go 628 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160 for it on 4th down you just know all the time go for it. 629 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,440 But it seems like we get there and to your point like we're 630 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240 we're we're making the decisions in real time. 631 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 We're trying to figure out it's like you should just know like a 632 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600 50 yard field goal is not going to happen. 633 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,320 Know that. So it's like when you're on the 634 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,760 40, you're not kicking a field goal you're going for it and. 635 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160 It does feel like we're almost handcuffed by like everything 636 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,680 has to go through a decision tree when to your and you know 637 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,120 this is not pick. Allen's made it very clear he's 638 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,160 not you know he doesn't really get involved in the offense the 639 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,240 offensive plays and we've gone through five different offense. 640 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,520 I don't know where it seems like we're always stopping and asking 641 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,960 for approval along here like whether it was Walt Bell or Rod 642 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,080 Carey. Like somebody should just be 643 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,080 like, hey, you're in charge and then they should have a plan 644 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,760 where they just let everybody know like. 645 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,120 Hey, we're going for it. And by the way I was fine with 646 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,400 that 4th down play and like I said at the end of the game, I'm 647 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,040 fine going for it. Like you're you're playing for 648 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,880 the Splatoon, you're not playing for much but you're playing for 649 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,200 something but just win. Like just go for a win and I 650 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,720 think the aggressiveness would be there. 651 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,320 But it's like you're you're passive and you can see the 652 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,200 entire team and coaching staff thinking and they're trying to 653 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,480 figure out like what's best. Like once you're there you're 654 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,200 you're screwed. Like you got to know. 8 plays 655 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,800 before and I think that's where I have real frustration is just 656 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,200 feels like they're trying to figure these out on a case by 657 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,440 case basis when in reality you just go in and have a game plan 658 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,840 like hey man, we're going to win this game. 659 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Like we're just we're not. Not that we're not going to kick 660 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,840 field goals, but unless it's like a 25 yarder, we're just 661 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,200 going for it. Like let's just let's be 662 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,760 aggressive. Let's just put them out of their 663 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,200 misery. Let's go win a freaking game. 664 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,600 Yeah. No, I agree. 665 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,000 I I think I I have this kind of would have honestly Scott is 666 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,920 what I expected. So when they were when way back 667 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,440 before the 1st week but they were saying that they didn't 668 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,080 really have a starting kicker and that it was going to be 669 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,120 distance based. I was like, OK, so they probably 670 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200 put in this idea where I had a haunch. 671 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480 It might be Chris Freeman because Niko Radich is is just 672 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,520 so young and and so I was like, OK, well, they're probably 673 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,440 probably going to do exactly what you were just saying 674 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,040 probably going to set up a line where if they're behind that 675 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,960 yard line they're not kicking field goals. 676 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600 And it doesn't seem like that's exactly what's happened. 677 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,080 And and yeah, no, I totally agree. 678 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,920 And and there, you know there's a lot of a lot of things like 679 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,760 that where it just seems like every week or something new. 680 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,960 You know, like like this week decrees Carter had six catches. 681 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Like, where has that been? And I tweeted it like he he his 682 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,880 competence really showed in this game like when when he was 683 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,440 catching passes he seemed confident and like he see he 684 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,080 just it just seemed like he was an experienced receiver who was 685 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:12,400 bringing some what's what's the reliability to to the the 686 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,719 passing game and and I think how many targets did he have. 687 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880 He had seven targets. EJ Williams had 12 and Donna 688 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,239 McCauley had seven. So you know the quiz card like 689 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,520 very involved this week in in in a different way. 690 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,320 And I was like, where has that been all all year? 691 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,760 You know, and and I like it just and and it just seems like there 692 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,400 are things that are constantly changing. 693 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,800 But the one thing that won't change is that if if they're 694 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,600 struggling in the running game, which they didn't today, they 695 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,880 were OK in the running game, but they won't go away from it. 696 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,199 You know, like they still play a bunch of tight ends to help the 697 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,000 offensive line run block, which they're not even good at doing, 698 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,280 and it keeps other playmakers off of the field. 699 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,600 And then you know when when it comes to passing situations, you 700 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,000 end up passing to a James Bomba or a Trey Walker and instead of 701 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,680 a instead of an Anderson Kobe or a Jaylen Lucas. 702 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,520 Who were, you know, Jaylen Lucas? 703 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,240 I don't know. Did he get any touches today 704 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,760 besides the No, I was. I was. 705 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Going to say he became the we should have a new position like 706 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,840 you know, IU football has taught me about. 707 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,560 The Husky and the Bowl and all the I've watched football for 708 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,360 years and it's like all these positions, I didn't know that 709 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840 they existed until we got Tom Allen's defense in here. 710 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,480 We should have like the designated, you know, what were 711 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,720 they calling them on the broadcast? 712 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:32,320 It was the gadget, not. Gadget It was like, Oh my gosh, 713 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,840 I got to cut all this from the podcast. 714 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,120 I'm losing my Don't Don't Turn 40 Man 45 and like I'm losing. 715 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Is it an H back? No, it's not even it was. 716 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,480 Just a decoy. Sorry. 717 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,240 Gosh, it was. Slit my mind like just just a 718 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,680 decoy like we should have like just the official decoy. 719 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,000 Like I'm excited next year I messed my joke up by not knowing 720 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,160 a word like going into the going into the season like who's going 721 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,640 to be the decoy? Like we have a quarterback 722 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,880 battle. We have a decoy battle cause 723 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,880 like Jalen Lucas was like he's just on decoy bat he's on decoy 724 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,280 now like he got no rushing, no rushing, no no receiving. 725 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,840 I mean that that was 5 weeks ago. 726 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,960 It was like how do we get him more involved in the offense. 727 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,600 He's not. And it's just it is that cycle, 728 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400 so. You know, Taylor, we'll end with 729 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,280 this. We are three and eight now going 730 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,800 to play Purdue. We're still in trophy mode, 731 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,240 baby, still going for a not a Splatoon. 732 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,960 We're going for a bucket. It's heavier than the Splatoon. 733 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200 I like a lot of talk in the broadcast with the weight of the 734 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,680 Splatoon. That was awesome as well. 735 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000 Where do we go? Apparently it's older than the 736 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440 the universities themselves. Yes, I actually didn't know 737 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,600 that, but it doesn't weigh that. Much. 738 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,720 And you spit into it not, but not during COVID. 739 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Where, where does this team go from here? 740 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,120 I mean that I again, what I will say that I'm pleased by is it 741 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,560 doesn't look like the team has given up like they're still 742 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,680 trying, they're still fighting. So that's good, man. 743 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,520 Yeah, it's. It's good the decisions at the 744 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,120 are still perplexing, to put it lightly. 745 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,880 I I worry about this defense against Purdue, you know? 746 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,520 I worry about this team going into West Lafayette and winning 747 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,240 and I do worry at some point about them just kind of running 748 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,760 out of gas and being like all right what do we have to play 749 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,960 for. I know it's the bucket I know 750 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,880 it's Purdue but you have a lot of transfers in this team and a 751 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,960 lot of guys who might just be like I'm I'm we've we've pushed 752 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,800 about as hard as we can I'm ready to see the the light at 753 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,120 the end of the tunnel but how how do you. 754 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,640 I mean real quick. I know you'll do the bite size 755 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,680 bison. We'll check it out. 756 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,640 But what What's your? Thumbnail thought on where we go 757 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,800 from here as it stands right now at 4:43 on a Saturday. 758 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Yeah. I mean, I think you have to just 759 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,320 get them prepared for one game. You know, it's like one last 760 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000 game. Just go out there like it's this 761 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,760 one team. Like it's just, I think it's a 762 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,920 lot easier when it's the when it's the last game, there's 763 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,280 nothing after it. And it's like, you know, what 764 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,280 are the players willing to give? I think the players are willing 765 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,760 to give. You know what? 766 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,640 What what needs to be given. And I think that they, you know, 767 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,000 they kind of prove that today too. 768 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,720 I thought there was a lot of good effort out there. 769 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:16,200 But yeah, I I mean I think you I, I don't I don't really know 770 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:22,520 how you overcome such a late season collapse from an entire 771 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,840 unit like your secondary. I don't know what has to change 772 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:34,960 there and and it it can't be personnel and it I I don't think 773 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,560 that they have the capability of changing their scheme. 774 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,440 I think you know they probably should provide some help to the 775 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,880 defensive line and pass rush. The pass rush has been terrible. 776 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,640 It wasn't good today either and honestly, Andre Carter's been a 777 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,840 little disappointing in that department and Lanelle Carr is 778 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,280 the best pass rusher on this team. 779 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:09,640 And besides the linebackers and I I don't know, man, I I I think 780 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,520 the offense is, is OK. Like, I think if you do what 781 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,920 you've done recently against Purdue, I think you're going to 782 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,960 be OK. It's just can the defense help 783 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,680 out more. You know that they obviously 784 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,760 they stopped the running game for Michigan State but Purdue's 785 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,000 offense is, is a bit better than Michigan State's. 786 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,240 And so you know is it is it to the point where it's going to be 787 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,480 like another one of these games where it's just kind of a messy 788 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,480 close game which is what we're you know we're we're used to 789 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:42,640 seeing from a lot of bucket games but yeah I'll have to look 790 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,320 deeper into it. But right now, it's just that 791 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,600 that secondary is just really hurting this team right now. 792 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:52,440 Yeah, and this. Is a Purdue team that I, I 793 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,200 don't, I mean they're having also a very poor season but it's 794 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,000 a team that I just, I cannot you're not quite sure what 795 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680 you're going to get. I mean they beat Illinois at the 796 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,960 end of September 44 to 19 and then they lost four in a row. 797 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960 Of course they did play Ohio State and they played Michigan. 798 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,800 So that's that's defendable. They also played. 799 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,160 Nebraska and Iowa. They played Iowa pretty well, 800 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,880 and then they beat Minnesota. And then this week they just 801 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,320 turned around and today lost at Northwestern. 802 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,680 Another team that's having a season like this is like the 803 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,800 four team season from Hell battle Royale between Indiana, 804 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,000 Michigan State, Northwestern and Purdue. 805 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,240 It's like just who's having the worst season and we're 806 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,600 unfortunately in the losers bracket with Purdue. 807 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,880 That would be awesome if the big 10s just like you know what 808 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,760 Michigan State's playing Northwestern next week like. 809 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,640 We're just calling it the season from hell bracket. 810 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,760 It's like the in season tournament the NBA like we'll 811 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,840 get a new field we'll have a color thing going on like go for 812 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,160 it. The we're in the losers bracket 813 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,760 of the season from hell and I I don't know what Purdue team's 814 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,160 going to show up bucket games were always bananas but but 815 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,360 normally you know in these types of season Purdue has done better 816 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,280 preparing but who who knows. But I'm with you I'm I'm very 817 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,120 nervous because I I unfortunately I think the only 818 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,760 thing I can depend on is that our secondary is going to be 819 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,560 poor. I just don't see that turning 820 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,120 around to becoming a strength. And then it goes back to the 821 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,760 Galen boat analogy. It's like, all right, can can we 822 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,680 trust the things? Like it looks like we figured 823 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,000 out the passing game, but I don't think you and I would be 824 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,840 like, all right, well, I'm, I'm comfortable knowing we're going 825 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,120 to give Soresby, Soresby's going to, you know, throw 60% and get 826 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,760 give us 250 yards and two touchdowns and no interceptions. 827 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,640 It's like I nothing against Soresby and our receivers. 828 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,640 I just, I don't know if I trust that yet and it's like, so I 829 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,600 just don't know what we're going to get. 830 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,640 But yeah it's like you're you're kind of looking at you know this 831 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,480 is everyone understands this but it's like you're you're kind of 832 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,080 playing to keep to tread water. You finish last year four and 833 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,520 eight, two and seven in the big 10. 834 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,080 You're currently 3rd and 3:00 and 8:00 and 1:00 and 7:00 in 835 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,200 the big 10. Like you. 836 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,760 This is not a spot where you want to regress if nothing else 837 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,120 just to have the right momentum into next year. 838 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,120 You know having at least a bucket win. 839 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,160 It's it's something, it's it's more than any other game. 840 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,600 And you know, that's something that, you know, even when Wilson 841 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,480 was slowly turning things around, it's like, I mean he's 842 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,880 got some bucket wins. Like that was something you 843 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,360 could build on. Like that's something that if 844 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,240 you're Allen, you need any piece of good news and good momentum 845 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,240 going into this offseason. I think Soresby is one of those 846 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:22,680 things. I think Donovan, Mccully, 847 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,400 decrease Carter you've seen the last couple days, but just being 848 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,160 to get a bucket win, that would be something you could grasp 849 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,600 onto. And I think that's that's what 850 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,240 you're really trying to push and play for. 851 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,040 Yeah, yeah. And a quick note about Purdue's 852 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,560 loss today. I forgot about this Hudson card 853 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,920 didn't play today and the two leading receivers were the 854 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,560 running backs. But no, I I think, yeah, no, I, 855 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,720 I, I, I, I I think it's going to be a weird game. 856 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,080 I think you need it to be to gain to to gain some goodwill. 857 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,000 You know and and I think I made a note of this and and if I says 858 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,240 Bison recently. But it was you know. 859 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,480 You you want to have some goodwill leaving the season so 860 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,680 that you can have at least some momentum as far as like 861 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,560 recruiting, because you're recruiting a lot of different 862 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,120 players, right? You're recruiting not only just 863 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,200 high school, but you're also recruiting the transfer portal 864 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,760 and you're recruiting your own roster. 865 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,800 Right. Like you have to you know, like 866 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,680 they said last year immediately after the last game they started 867 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,320 recruiting Jaylen Lucas to keep him here. 868 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,920 Well, I think Jaylen Lucas might be on the 1st train out of 869 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,160 Bloomington after this year because I don't I would trust 870 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,240 that they would know how to use me if I was Jaylen Lucas. 871 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:40,800 But you know you like that's that is that's a reality and so 872 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,960 if you if you can make your if you can you know show that 873 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,320 you're not. A black hole for transfers and 874 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,800 that that's going to it's going to hurt them to be here. 875 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,120 Then that that's a positive and I think that this game you know 876 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,360 is is kind of seemingly inconsequential as it is because 877 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,560 of the teams playing. I think it, I think that's 878 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,800 important for Indiana to be able to hold on to that to have 879 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,320 something tangible from from the season because right now it's 880 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,440 you know you have that Wisconsin win but. 881 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,640 I mean, everything else is pretty bleak. 882 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,960 Yeah, I, I. We'll, we'll end on there. 883 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,320 There there's a title for the podcast. 884 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,280 Everything's pretty bleak. Check him on Bite Size bison. 885 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Taylor, thank you so much for hopping on with quick reactions. 886 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,080 If nothing else. Man, I use interesting. 887 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,360 They find different ways to do it every single week, that's for 888 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,040 sure. If you're going to be out and 889 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,720 about in New York the next couple days, GAIL and I will be 890 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:33,240 bouncing around the city. So come find us. 891 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,400 We'll be at the home field event. 892 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,320 Check us out there. Madison Square Garden should be 893 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,040 a good weekend. And thank everybody for 894 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,320 listening. And for Taylor, this is Scott 895 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,440 for Crimson cast signing off.