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Joe man. 

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How you doing? 
I'm doing. 

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All right, I'm a Still a little 
bit flustered with the results 

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that that unfolded earlier this 
week, but especially the 

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friendly reminder coming and I, 
you pod, have it just sting a 

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little bit that much more. 
I honestly am a little bit of a 

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cynic thinking that you're 
bringing me on the spot just be 

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like, hey, I'm bringing on the 
Michigan guy to needle of a 

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little bit, but now I'm doing. 
All right. 

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How are you Scott? 
I'm doing well, yeah, actually, 

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we've already talked for 20 
minutes, I forgot to hit record,

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so I'm not going to make you go 
through all of the IU. 

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Ian stuff twice because then I'm
officially in dick territory. 

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So we'll keep it easy. 
I'll just say I was at the game 

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with my buddy, Danny, and he was
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this out and they didn't close 
it out and like I'll say it's, 

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you know, see like I said to you
before but you know, it's I've 

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never been the I know more than 
the coach guy because coaches 

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obviously you know what they're 
doing, you know, deal of D1, 

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level coaches, obviously are not
stupid and I always think of my 

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dad who's just like why do they 
shoot He throws more. 

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I'm like, I'm sure they practice
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Like I'm sure I'm sure it's not 
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to practice free throws for four
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That said, watching the team 
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with the chance to win the game 
and Michigan and seeing three 

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plays that are kind of like, 
wow, that's that's, you know, 

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again, just for my cheap seats. 
It does make me wonder like, 

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what is going on there, on the 
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Michigan Sidelines? 
Yeah, no. 

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It's been the story of our 
season certainly as a Michigan 

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Fan, I've almost become a little
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happened over and over again 
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and and can execute and can't 
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I saw an interesting graphic at 
one point regarding Michigan's 

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performance in close games. 
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recent overtime losses and 
Michigan was something atrocious

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to an 8-3. 
Nate I don't know exactly what 

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the criteria was to Define it as
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possessions or margin or Or 
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over time, any overtime game, 
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record has been atrocious and 
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that they have with the 
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I know you want still relatively
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know, martelli's on the bench. 
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experience. 
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the B-Line era that they'd be 
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Something in the late game 
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perspective that works better 
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The Frankly trashes that they've
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So and that that leads us to the
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You got Michigan playing 
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It feels like that's you know 
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that's a winner you know loser 
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The like the loser is not going 
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I think it's a chance. 
Rutgers might still make it. 

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But you know again your site 131
sports.com, one of the 

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highest-rated on the bracket 
Matrix year in year out. 

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How do you see that game as 
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Is that a winner winner, get in 
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The, the term that I've seen, 
that's been in Vogue for that 

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game that I subscribe to is, 
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So, the, I think the loser of 
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the field. 
So, right now, I have my most 

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recent Bracketology I've Rutgers
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and I have Michigan not in the 
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four out. 
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Eight teams on the outside 
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So I think if Rutgers wins 
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solidify their spot in the 
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Pending bid Steelers and some, 
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some teams that are currently on
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I think Rutgers likely makes it 
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On the other hand, I think when 
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losing their certainly out when 
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have some hope. 
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minimum for Michigan to receive 
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be truckers and Purdue and it 
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need to make a run to the Big 
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Like I said, the all of the the 
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that think that's a that's a 
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a theme that will have this time
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Like there are so many moving 
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You get to selection Sunday that
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the field where everyone gets 
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certainly in my opinion needs to
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Rutgers and Purdue to Merit at 
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And it might even be three 
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elsewhere as sad as it is for me
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that cat that had to got to 
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Alden Road, quad, one wins slip 
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times, not even just one game, 
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multiple times. 
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of a lot of close games. 
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that's what you look at. 
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It's like just some not a lot of
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And and yeah you get to a point 
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wrongly you kind of get seated 
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you have to start jumping teams.
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it's about other teams resumes 
than like, You start getting a 

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bunch of bids dealers in there, 
the path just continually gets 

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gets harder and harder as look 
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Tournament. 
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India, we had a bunch of we sent
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Got a bunch of good questions, a
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I'm curious, you know, Purdue 
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Indiana's plans, I want the 
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and it was kind of lining up 
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one in the west or the East. 
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sliding. 
Down to the to do you see Purdue

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having? 
If they make a run, could they 

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get to the one or? 
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that too? 
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I live right now and if you look
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know I'm just one bracket 
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know pretty pretty solid 
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aggregate you look at the 
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a coin flip between UCLA and 
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I think both teams have an 
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one seat. 
I think you're pretty solid that

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Alabama. 
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be your other three ones, and 
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playing for that that last one 
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If they, you know, like make the
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UCLA bios out early, they have 
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themselves as that final one and
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what the committee does with 
what I perceive as frankly, a 

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coin flip between UCLA Purdue 
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on so UCLA had a pretty major 
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there's presidents in the past 
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Moving teams around on the 
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impact of a of an injury 
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information on the player status
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and they have that go into where
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better for worse frankly, I 
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That's the appropriate approach 
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there's an argument to be had 
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guessing, how teams going to 
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injured. 
But they have leaned into that a

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little bit, so that certainly 
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Purdue or UCLA, get that final 
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he the dream. 
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The dream scenario is Purdue 
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out west so that Indiana doesn't
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right the the the silver lining 
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If they do get put out west, 
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One. 
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would be the weakest one seat 
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injury. 
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final one seed than Indiana, 
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so they end up getting put in a 
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ones that I think are stronger 
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If I'm a phenomenal, I'm an IU 
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cheering to get Kansas, I guess 
Kansas Got a lot of experience 

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in a lot of close games, but I'd
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Houston and I think that the, 
the advanced metrics would 

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probably support that. 
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that once and didn't get was in 
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Well, wouldn't be. 
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we're playing Kansas City, which
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and I think that's where we 
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bounced in the regional final. 
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right? 
I just I'm looking at Louisville

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like I just Louisville is so 
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If we can get that as our second
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between here and there, the 
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side of the bracket that I've 
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State. 
In the, in the discussion, we 

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had that was unrecorded. 
We were talking about, you know,

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what, the committee might be 
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the early, the Early seating 
selection and we were talking, 

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you know, maybe it's the last 10
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of late, if they're still in 
that, you know, 786 range of 

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seating. 
If I look at the bracket Matrix 

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right now, like they're kind of 
a six seed, it feels like, you 

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know, they have the operator. 
I feel like they've been kind of

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under seated, for a lot of this 
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Their resume is pretty good. 
What do you see? 

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They're kind of long term pot. 
Like, if they could go through 

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beat, Purdue knock through to 
the to see, like how, how much 

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at stake is for Michigan State 
in this tournament. 

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I think Michigan state has a lot
at stake, frankly because they 

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have the opportunity, you know, 
if assuming that if Wisconsin 

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can beat Ohio State and that 
first round the, with the winner

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of the Wisconsin, Iowa game is 
either a tournament team if it's

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Iowa, or at least a borderline 
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Wisconsin. 
So they have that opportunity of

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what would be the winner of the 
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And then what is if its chalky 
an opportunity against Purdue 

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with they can Make the Big Ten 
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I think they would solidify 
their spot as a six seed. 

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And if you look at outcomes for 
getting to the second weekend, 

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the the outcomes are much better
for 60 drawing a three than a 

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seven drawing or two and 
definitely much better than a 

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triangle one. 
So there's a lot at stake 

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because if Michigan loses the 
first game, they play, they have

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the risk of Michigan State lose.
The first game, they play, they 

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have the risk of dropping to an 
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If they win a couple games, they
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Their spot is a six seed and 
that just creates the 

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opportunity when you are in 
that, you know, that mid-single 

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digits range, your kind of 
expectation or goal is just make

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the second weekend and the the 
outcomes for six seeds are much 

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greater than seven or eight 
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those ones and twos for your 
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the same Same phenomenon unfolds
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experience last year. 
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Is that 11 being an 11 seed, is 
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second weekend or make a run 
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seed or nine seats. 
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that that Michigan didn't send 
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we're able to get 11 and face 
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chokes and March. 
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when he got to play the first 
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from Dayton to Portland in 36 
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That was not fun, but that's why
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first four. 
Are you, are you, you know, when

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I look at the, you know, resumes
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State, you know, Indiana's kind 
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five range Michigan. 
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a little bit lower. 
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a little bit under seated. 
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better tier won't, you know, 
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loss which is not ideal but 
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at from a bread it's too kind of
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perfectly. 
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two teams like this, you know, 
have you seen Michigan State 

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under seated or can you explain 
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three-line seed difference 
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Thusly, I would shock this 
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thin margins between all of 
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that ballpark, you know, the you
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four and seven line. 
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maybe throw in a Northwestern as
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than Sterling records, but have 
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They look good in the net. 
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games. 
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one wins those teams are, it's 
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committee to really dive into 
the not. 

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Just look at it, seems on paper 
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Into how they view individual 
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heuristic such that they can 
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it's, it's dark clothes between,
you know, with that Indiana's 

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who I have is the last four and 
Michigan State. 

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Why have is the number 27 seed? 
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those is smaller than people 
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Yeah, I would agree. 
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Indiana, you know, the thing 
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that we Art is - you know, 
Minnesota making a run through 

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all the way to the semifinals. 
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of a chalky Maryland first round
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you know, there's not a lot of 
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territory and, you know, we're 
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line, but it feels like I think 
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either way. 
It has question of, you know, 

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couple different ways, Matt 
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Love the name on Twitter. 
Why would a first round loss to 

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Maryland in Nebraska knock I you
to a 5 seed, question by Aaron 

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at camera 26 on Twitter. 
What is our seat if we lose on 

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Friday night? 
So I think I think we got a four

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seed pretty well locked up but 
I'm curious your thoughts on it.

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So they're they're certainly as 
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an evergreen statement, there 
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So it's really impossible to 
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Everyone wants to view it in a 
vacuum. 

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Binary, we win this happens. 
We lose This happens. 

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But I have with, I you like I 
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about how thin those margins are
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area and with IU as what I 
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the last four seed. 
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the committee members will 
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as part of their quote unquote. 
I test. 

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Which is something that I don't 
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tangent and the Diatribe, last 
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the committee's composition was 
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It was people that cared more 
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watching these teams but they, 
you know, like um, Conference 

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tournament time. 
They do more that I test and 

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they see those teams and 
especially with this committee 

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like we alluded to earlier, 
putting some onus on recent 

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performance. 
I think that there there there's

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an opportunity that that I you 
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So if I'm an IU fan, I'm paying.
Type of on top of I, you 

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strongly, wanting to win that 
game. 

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There are other teams that you 
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If I think that there they will 
lock in a for with a win 

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regardless of who it's against 
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stuns Maryland and they get 
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that game it's an extra win even
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just an extra wind to put in the
win column so that Numbers a 

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little bit higher, if it's 
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you know, my partner, Gala and I
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night is that, you know, and you
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It's like the committee doesn't 
just Sunday morning. 

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Start putting this together like
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Wednesday, they're they're 
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You know, everything has to be a
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They're probably seeding the 
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moving people around. 
So the fact that we're playing 

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that game Friday night at 9:30 
at night, you know, we've 

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already And probably slotted 
where we're going to be slotted.

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So, you know, the idea of, you 
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they watch it and has some bias 
see. 

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But I also think that there is a
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happens where it's like we have 
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it's going to be hard to start. 
Moving to three seed lines one 

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way or the other for a team like
Indiana when they play that late

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in the process and then so many 
other things are happening 

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around them. 
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Certainly I would say that. 
With that in mind, I would pay 

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attention to upcoming results in
other tournaments to determine 

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if India because Indiana just by
not playing, might slide like 

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you said, if they have an 
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anchoring Point going into 
Friday's a 5, then they might 

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need to win to get back to a for
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Where say st. 
Mary's knocks off the zags? 

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I don't know. 
I was hoping to be why you would

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come back last night. 
Like, I'm watching that like a 

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Saint Mary's loss would have 
been helpful. 

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Yes, super helpful, you know, 
pay attention to basically, if 

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you just look at, if you want to
use my website, which obviously,

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I'm going to advocate for you. 
Look at the teams that are in 

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the 5 line, you know, Miami if 
Miami's the one seed in the ACC 

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tournament if they hold serve 
and win the ACC tournament that 

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there's an opportunity that they
might bump. 

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Indiana down if India, 
especially if Indiana loses that

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first game or TCU and Iowa State
who have similar resumes where 

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it's, You know, like a lot of 
losses, but they've played a lot

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of high quality opponents. 
A lot of quad One games, you 

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know, I have been that pulled up
right now and tcu's literally 

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one spot ahead of Indiana with a
couple more quad, one wins and a

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couple more quad, one losses. 
So if you were to compare them 

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to at ECU or an Iowa state, 
which Iowa State's has nine, 

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quad one wins, which is just 
unheard of half of their Windsor

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quad one. 
Those two teams. 

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If either of them, especially 
with the depth and the quality 

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of teams that are in the Big 12,
if you have of them, make a big 

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12 run, then I think the four 
seed is in Jeopardy. 

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So I know that this kind of 
contradicts what you were saying

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and I hope you don't take 
offense to that. 

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No, you have to defer to me as 
the expert. 

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No, I'm just kidding. 
But I would say, I would say the

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likelihood of falling to a 5 
seed with a loss to marylander 

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Nebraska is probably honestly 
greater than 50%. 

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Unfortunately. 
From just because of all of 

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those teams that are knocking on
the door, right there. 

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If if Indiana is, in fact 
sitting at that last four seed 

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spot right now. 
But I think that the likelihood 

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of being a four seed with a win 
in that game is 95% something 

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obscenely high. 
So I think it's any and I think 

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is playing to lock in that for 
seat or, you know, like a loss 

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would probably put them out 
slightly worse than a coin. 

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Flip to move down to a five when
were you have them? 

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And I think a lot of other 
people do kind But they the tail

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end of that four seed line on 
the s-curve. 

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It does also feet and, you know,
let's just make it chalky, we 

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get Northwestern, which is a, 
that's a good non-conference 

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win. 
If we play them in the semis, 

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even Illinois, Penn State, like 
any of those teams are great. 

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It's not, that's not going to 
move the needle, the only game 

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that would move the needle as if
we play honest, think Purdue or 

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Michigan State in the finals. 
And maybe just Purdue is the 

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only team that would really move
the needle for Indiana. 

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I'm not even sure all of that is
enough. 

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Oof to jump us to a 3 because I 
think we have to jump going off 

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of your bracket. 
Like Virginia Xavier Connecticut

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are all ahead of us in the for 
line and then you need one of 

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Kansas State Marquette. 
Gonzaga Tennessee to drop. 

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That's a lot of movement for 
what would be honestly like a 

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36-hour staying for Indiana 
basically again we're waiting 

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playing late which is good but I
think it also works hurts us. 

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I'm curious your thoughts on 
that. 

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Like is does Indiana have that 
upward Mobility or they're just 

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too many teams to jump. 
I I think that there are too 

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many teams to jump and I'll say 
that, you know, like with. 

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So if you look at the three of 
the teams that are ahead of 

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them, someone immediately out of
them, you have Connecticut, save

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your Marquette. 
That's three big east teams. 

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They're not going to be able to 
jump all three because one of 

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those three is like going to 
win, is going to win, or make 

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the make the finals and and do 
enough, especially with the 

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quality of the Big East that 
that they will stay ahead of 

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Indiana. 
Yeah, Gonzaga with, you know, 

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like being in the finals of West
Coast Conference and playing see

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Mary's there, which wouldn't be 
a bad loss. 

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I don't think that they're 
moving off the three line. 

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I think the The Hope could be 
that Virginia losses. 

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And this is still this is The 
Longshot Indiana would have to 

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make that run and you'd have to 
see an early loss for Tennessee 

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and an early loss for Virginia. 
So that moves them up what two 

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spots. 
Yeah. 

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I mean I'm still thinking and 
then hopping the other two big 

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east teams so that only one of 
those three big east teams 

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remains ahead of them than they 
could get that last three but I 

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just I'm shooting it as a sort 
of pipe dream as if I was an 

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Indiana fan der to get all the 
way back up to A3. 

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Yeah. 
And we you know we had our 

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chances like don't lose by 20 to
that home to Iowa, don't do 

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that. 
If you want to be a three i-i'll

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ask you this, looking at the 
take it. 

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Lens away from Indiana unless it
sounds like Indiana is not going

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to be the answer to this 
question. 

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Who in the Big Ten Tournament? 
Do you think has the most growth

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in their seating ability? 
So like I think Rutgers and 

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Michigan, like they obviously 
have the most to play for 

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because they lose, they could be
out, obviously, Purdue could get

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to A-1, which is big, but of the
teams in that mix. 

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Like, who do you think? 
Could jump two, maybe three seed

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lines. 
If they have just a killer Big, 

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Ten Tournament, I do honestly, I
don't or, is it not possible? 

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I don't think anybody's jumping 
three. 

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I think even to honestly is 
unlikely, I would say. 

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So this, this gives them 
something to play for. 

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I think you could see. 
So right now I have Maryland as 

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an eight. 
I think Marilyn could get up to 

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a 6 if they make a run, you 
know. 

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Like if they if they beat 
Nebraska, if they knock off, you

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all, if they Regardless of who 
they play in the semis, because 

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right now I have Illinois, Penn 
State, Northwestern all is 

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tournament teams. 
So they'd have an opportunity to

444
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win three games to of, which 
would be against tournament 

445
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,500
quality opponents? 
That, you know, like depending 

446
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,700
on what shakes out elsewhere, I 
think Marilyn has the 

447
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:42,600
opportunity to hop up all the 
way to a succeed if they can win

448
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:46,200
the Big Ten tournament or at 
least make the finals. 

449
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:52,300
The part of me, part of the 
reason that I say that, is that 

450
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,700
if you look at Maryland's 
resume, they were alive for the 

451
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,200
pretty heavily. 
I'm on their performance, on 

452
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,600
their home court. 
So if they can demonstrate, it's

453
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,300
all at home, everything they've 
done is at home. 

454
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:03,500
Yeah. 
Right. 

455
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,600
Look at that they had had stayed
on the ropes and and Happy 

456
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,600
Valley and then they choked on 
applesauce to take a phrase from

457
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,700
a particular radio DJ from. 
I don't know if you've ever 

458
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:21,500
heard of Mike Valenti's a radio 
Jay and Metro Detroit, he is a 

459
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,800
very when we when we're done 
here. 

460
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,700
Look up. 
Mike Valenti chokes on 

461
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:29,300
applesauce Notre, Dame rant, one
of the most famous sports fans 

462
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:33,000
of all time. 
It's on YouTube so I took that 

463
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,300
phrase from it, there's the 
chokes on apple sauce. 

464
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:38,300
I use that all the time. 
I'm a pretty avid golfer. 

465
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:41,800
So whenever I'm about to, you 
know, break 90, break 80 or 

466
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,900
something. 
And I double bogey, the 18th 

467
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:48,500
hole, I choked on applesauce, so
as long as at any rate, Eight 

468
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,500
Maryland Show Breaking 80 
Brigade. 

469
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:52,700
He's good broke. 
That's that's that's a good day 

470
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,100
anybody's book. 
Go ahead and sure but Maryland 

471
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,200
Maryland. 
Yeah, all that is to say they 

472
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,400
choked on apple sauce a little 
bit against Penn State 

473
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,500
demonstrating their sort of 
inability to win away from home.

474
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,400
So if they can demonstrate by 
going on a run in the Big Ten 

475
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,700
tournament that they can win on 
a neutral court against quality 

476
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:14,600
opponents, then I think they 
have an opportunity to move up a

477
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,200
couple seed lines coming there 
there there. 

478
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,200
Resume is bananas. 
I mean their predictive Czar 

479
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,100
pretty good. 
I mean they're you know, average

480
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:29,500
average of everything is 27, you
know, but you look at their 

481
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:33,100
wins. 
They have, you know, a tier 1. 

482
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:37,300
51 wins gets proven Indiana, 
both at home neutral site 

483
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,300
against Miami. 
You got to go down to at 

484
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:43,900
Minnesota and at Louisville are 
there only two Road wins this 

485
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,000
year. 
Everything else is home or 

486
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,100
neutral Court. 
And then just a ton of you know,

487
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:55,800
rode Tier 1 loss is just a, it's
a wild profile. 

488
00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:58,900
Yeah. 
Road wins against the worst team

489
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,100
in the Big Ten and the worst 
team in the ACC. 

490
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,300
Yeah, and Alvaro 81 246. 
That's that's a, that's an ass 

491
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,600
kicking in my book but doesn't 
really matter. 

492
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,400
It's a tier 3 game against a 
really bad team, but, yeah, it's

493
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,900
like they are, they just need to
kind of do the. 

494
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,900
Hey, we're playing a home game 
even though it's in Chicago, 

495
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:17,100
like, they've got to just 
pretend like it's a home team 

496
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:19,100
and they do that. 
They're with In this National 

497
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:20,600
Championship. 
Sure. 

498
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:29,600
So what let's let's kind of wrap
up with this with a couple other

499
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,300
questions about Indiana. 
You know, one other question 

500
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:38,800
came from Debbie Meyer at 
Frankenmuth Franken fake. 

501
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Debbie Meyer on Twitter at fake 
Debbie Meyer. 

502
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600
Took me a little bit to get that
out. 

503
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,400
What are the chances? 
I un zip in Orlando, I'm going 

504
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600
to expand on this question, just
to give you a little more room 

505
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,300
to breathe here. 
You know what I personally think

506
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,800
that, you know, Columbus is 
going to be out, I think Xavier 

507
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
probably takes that from us. 
We're just too far down on the 

508
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,400
for line. 
So, you know, do you think we go

509
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,100
to Orlando? 
I look at At from a location 

510
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:07,000
perspective again, I'm kind of 
focused on like I want to get 

511
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,800
that Louisville sub-regional. 
So my question second part is 

512
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,700
like do you think that's 
possible? 

513
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,900
And then how important do you 
think those kind of location 

514
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,900
decisions are going to be for a 
team like Indiana? 

515
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:20,700
Or should we just be focused on 
who's the weaker one seed? 

516
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,800
I mean it depends what what fans
would prefer in terms of what if

517
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:35,700
you account for Miles traveled 
which certainly plays the the 

518
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,800
any advanced model that projects
the outcome of the tournament 

519
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,900
which I have one of that does a 
company account for what's 

520
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:48,900
called euclidean distance which 
is just a fancy way of saying, 

521
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,300
as the crow flies, distance that
distance Miles traveled does 

522
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:59,500
impact your outcomes. 
So being closer to home and 

523
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,100
playing a tougher team in 
exchange for being closer to 

524
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,100
home more enjoyable as a fan. 
Certainly because you might be 

525
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,300
able to your, it's not 
prohibitive to travel to the 

526
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:13,600
game, but it's a tougher team to
be so I mean you can look at it.

527
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:20,400
You can look at it both ways 
frankly, you know to as a fan I 

528
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,000
think and At somebody, if I was 
an Indiana fan and I'm sitting 

529
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,600
there as a team, that's my 
opinion, like a borderline 45 

530
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,900
team right now, your primary 
goal is to get out of the first 

531
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,500
weekend. 
You know, make the amazing Swiss

532
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,900
meet this. 
Make the sweet sixteen and 

533
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:39,400
everything after that is just 
icing on the cake. 

534
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:42,600
I know that's hard with the 
history of Indiana. 

535
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,600
If you go back decades and 
decades, the Bobby Knight are 

536
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,700
around and not going to really, 
that's that's that would be 

537
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:50,500
great. 
And he recently the last 20 

538
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:54,100
years that's a Welcome change. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

539
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:58,200
And so in that vein, the 
sub-regional Pod that you get 

540
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,400
put in and the proximity to 
Bloomington is as much more 

541
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:08,800
important than the regional in 
that vein of making the sweet 16

542
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,300
to Circle, back to the question 
in terms of what's what would be

543
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,600
better? 
Play a weaker one in a region 

544
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,800
that's farther away or close 
better one and a closed region. 

545
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:23,000
I mean I think it's I don't 
think that there should be a 

546
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,500
preference. 
I think either way and you and 

547
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,200
you have us in Orlando in your 
room most recent bracket so it 

548
00:31:28,208 --> 00:31:29,900
sounds like to answer the 
question. 

549
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,500
We got on Twitter your chances 
are right out, least pretty 

550
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:34,300
high. 
We're going to end up when 

551
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,200
Orlando based on how those get, 
you know, hand it out. 

552
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:41,800
Yeah, I would say that if I were
to just sign a sign an arbitrary

553
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,700
likelihood, I'd say there's a 
probably about a 90% chance that

554
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,200
I you ends up in Orlando or 
Albany those two regions. 

555
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:53,000
Annals based on how the bracket 
is sort of shaking out right 

556
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000
now. 
Orlando, if you look at what I 

557
00:31:56,008 --> 00:31:59,800
have in my bracket right now the
every four and five game takes 

558
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,700
place in Albany Orlando just 
because of the regional. 

559
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:07,800
The the geographic preferences 
based on the sub-regional pot, 

560
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
availability of the teams that 
are on the one, two, and three 

561
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,900
seed line. 
I do think that there's an 

562
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:18,200
outside shot of something like 
Greensboro or Des Moines, but I 

563
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,800
think that There's maybe one in 
a thousand one in 10,000 that 

564
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Indiana ends up in in the dream 
scenario of Columbus. 

565
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:30,600
So, you know, like I think 
who's, who's in that, in that 

566
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,900
scenario who is taking Columbus 
from us. 

567
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,800
I mean, obviously, you know, it 
goes by preference. 

568
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,500
So, you know, let's just say, 
I'm going off of your current 

569
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:40,700
bracket today, you know, 
Alabama, you have is the one 

570
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,500
seed. 
So they, you know, for those who

571
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:45,200
don't know, like they get to 
basically pick and you correct 

572
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,000
me if I'm wrong, but you know, 
my understand is they get to 

573
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,100
pick the sub-regional and then, 
you know, our The committee 

574
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,900
picks the most advantageous 
sub-regional for them and then 

575
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,900
Houston and then Kansas UCI. 
So on so forth. 

576
00:32:56,900 --> 00:33:01,300
Who in your in your kind of 
snake draft who's taking 

577
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:05,700
Columbus ahead of us as of right
now Marquette? 

578
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,200
So that's going to be that 
that's the tough part. 

579
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:13,600
Is you're going to the. 
That's why I think it's a it's 

580
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,900
kind of a pipe dream to be in 
Columbus is because I think that

581
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Marquette takes Columbus Xavier 
certainly takes Columbus, if 

582
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,600
they're ahead of you. 
I mean, even Connecticut, Light 

583
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200
take Columbus. 
If someone else takes Albany, 

584
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,900
you know, if there's there's 
certainly opportunities for 

585
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:34,300
Columbus to be. 
You might even get in a scenario

586
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:39,300
where this is a very strange 
one, but where you have Gonzaga 

587
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:42,700
take Columbus because if you 
think about where gonzaga's and 

588
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,400
their travel time as the crow 
flies to Columbus is going to be

589
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,300
shorter than it would be to 
Orlando or Albany. 

590
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,600
And and they So, so that would 
be a wild scenario where Gonzaga

591
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,500
takes Columbus from from 
Indiana, but there's I mean, 

592
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:59,600
your understanding is correct. 
Basically, it's as my 

593
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400
understanding is your 
understanding is correct. 

594
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,400
If my understanding is correct, 
they look at it as the crow 

595
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,800
flies, I actually have never 
heard the committee and might be

596
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,199
that. 
I've just not saw it and they 

597
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,100
have actually describe this, but
I've never seen if the committee

598
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,800
looks at just as the crow flies,
Drive time, or flight time and 

599
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,699
proximity to Regional airports. 
I don't know. 

600
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:29,000
I know that they take distance 
into account, but I don't know 

601
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,100
when those methodologies what 
they take into account. 

602
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:38,300
So I do know that they try to 
put teams in order on the 

603
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:42,699
s-curve, you know, like 
obviously each sub Regional gets

604
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,100
to two pods. 
And once those are taking up, 

605
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,100
then you get to the next most 
advantageous Regional. 

606
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,199
The other thing that they do 
just for informational 

607
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,699
perspective, for those that are 
listening, is the top four 

608
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,000
seeds. 
Are you may have heard this term

609
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:04,500
before protected seeds in the 
sense that they will not put 

610
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,000
them or they will, I don't think
that it's not, but them, they 

611
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,700
will the way they phrase. 
It is something like, they will 

612
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:14,000
try their hardest, not to put 
them at a geographic 

613
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
disadvantage in their first 
round game. 

614
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:21,500
So you're not going to get a 
scenario where If I'm trying to 

615
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,700
do this quickly off the cuff, 
but you're not going to get in a

616
00:35:24,707 --> 00:35:29,600
scenario where this is a bad 
example because it's not going 

617
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,400
to happen, but Indiana has a 
four seed who I currently have 

618
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,100
them playing Utah Valley. 
In the most recent bracket, 

619
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,200
you're not going to get us an 
area where Indiana has to play 

620
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,800
Utah Valley in Denver or 
Sacramento, because that would 

621
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,800
be a geographic disadvantage for
them. 

622
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,600
So they avoid they would send 
Utah Valley somewhere else. 

623
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:50,800
So that Indiana plays it. 
A team that doesn't have a 

624
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,900
geographic advantage in their 
location. 

625
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:56,800
So, but in that in that vein, we
had a Twitter question from 

626
00:35:57,100 --> 00:36:01,900
Daniel Corral, how much would 
vanish it to get a four seed. 

627
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:06,800
So you avoid the dreaded 512 
matchup that question but also 

628
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,300
just on top of that, you know, 
in your bracket you have Miami 

629
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,700
Florida playing in the same pot 
as us with a 5 seed and that 

630
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:16,900
becomes a geographic 
disadvantage basically. 

631
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,600
Because, you know, we're Indiana
gets to pick Air quotes their 

632
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,200
spot and then you kind of circle
back around and then, you know, 

633
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,800
the committee tries to place 
those next meal five, six, seven

634
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,000
teams in places that make sense 
is, you know, from a geographic 

635
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,500
possession perspective, is it 
better to get a 5 seed? 

636
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,500
If you're Indiana, maybe you get
Columbus that way. 

637
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,900
But then again, looking at 
Daniel's question then, are you 

638
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,300
getting stuck in that dreaded 
512 matchup. 

639
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:46,000
So, I'll handle listen in 
chunks. 

640
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,100
First and foremost with Miami 
going to Orlando. 

641
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,500
Do once they get beyond the 
floors, they start just putting 

642
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:57,200
the they start trying to put 
teams in their geographic region

643
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,100
as close as possible and the 
protection for those top four 

644
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,100
seeds only last for the round of
64. 

645
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,000
So they would they wouldn't bat 
an eye at making Indiana play in

646
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,800
Miami with a geographic 
disadvantage because it's a 45. 

647
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,300
So, they only protect them the 
based on bracketing procedures 

648
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:20,000
as the written today. 
They're only required To attempt

649
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,100
to protect these top four seeds 
for the first round, or the 

650
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,600
round of 64. 
I guess it's defendant, I always

651
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,100
say, round of 64 because ever 
since the playing games. 

652
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,800
Yeah boy go. 
First round is the playing 

653
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,400
games? 
No, nice. 

654
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,900
A first round is on a 64, but, 
so they wouldn't Bandai at 

655
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:38,100
making Indiana. 
Play Miami in Orlando. 

656
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:45,000
Next Indiana is not just because
of how the, at least, if the 

657
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:49,400
tournament started today and how
the bracket shakes out, To a 

658
00:37:49,408 --> 00:37:52,000
five, isn't you're going to 
change things because the four 

659
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,600
and the five sub regionals are 
the same because the for has to 

660
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,200
play into the 5 and the same 
sub-regional. 

661
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,000
So if they move from a four to a
five, they're still going to 

662
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,500
have that same. 
It's probably Orlando or Albany.

663
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,500
I don't think that that changes 
things, all that much to the 

664
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:13,500
Twitter question. 
I saw that actually I got 

665
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:18,500
notified of that question when 
it was asked on Twitter and so I

666
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:22,800
was Obviously, we're all 
familiar with the, the 512 

667
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,800
matchup, it's a classic and the 
12 seed, over the five seed 

668
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,600
upset. 
But I wanted some data to back 

669
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,200
it up. 
So I actually looked up the 

670
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:35,600
record of the five verses 12 
verses, the four verses for 13 

671
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,500
in the modern tournament era for
seeds, beat 13 seeds. 78% of the

672
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:44,400
time 5 seeds, B12, 65% of the 
time. 

673
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400
So that's a 13% win likelihood 
drop off. 

674
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000
That's massive. 
If you compare That 26 verses 

675
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,300
eleven six and 11 is honestly, 
it's I think it's I didn't I 

676
00:38:53,308 --> 00:38:56,400
don't have this down, mark down 
anywhere, but I'm pretty sure 

677
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,800
it's only a couple percentage 
points different so the drop 

678
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,200
from for 13 verses 512 is is 
pretty pretty big and and then 

679
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600
if you take it a step further 
and like I said about making the

680
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,400
sweet 16 about half of the four 
seeds make the sweet sixteen, 

681
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:14,200
whereas only a third of five 
seeds make it part of that 

682
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,300
obviously is just because five 
seeds don't even have an 

683
00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:18,400
opportunity because they lose 
that first round game. 

684
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:21,000
Right? 
I mean if your goal is make the 

685
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,300
sweet sixteen or at least get 
out of the first round and avoid

686
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:27,400
that heartbreaking upset, it's 
very important to maintain that 

687
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,600
for seed just because this is, 
this isn't so much in the data 

688
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,400
as it is my what I've seen 
paying attention to the 

689
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,000
tournament and as a bracket 
ologist with bid Steelers and 

690
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,700
went, what's usually your 12s, 
are you get the entire 12 line 

691
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,900
is filled with teams that were 
the one seed in their conference

692
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:49,000
tournament. 
They won their conference 

693
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,500
tournament, Tournament dominated
their conference and they're 

694
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:54,500
just the the best of the best of
these small Conference teams. 

695
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:58,400
Once you get 13 line, you start 
getting teams, that may be 

696
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,500
knocked off the 1 seed that were
the two seed in their conference

697
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:03,800
tournament. 
That weren't the best team in 

698
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,900
the regular season but won their
conference tournament to get a 

699
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:07,600
bid. 
So, you start getting some of 

700
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,200
those high-end bid Steelers that
start to fill out that 13 line. 

701
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,400
So you, the likelihood of them 
making a run goes down a little 

702
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,100
bit so you get higher quality 
conference. 

703
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,800
Hence tournament champions on 
that 12 line than you do on the 

704
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,800
13 line. 
Typically having said that if if

705
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,100
you don't get as many bits 
dealers and if you were to look 

706
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,000
at my bracket, this is another 
thing I looked up. 

707
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,500
If you were to look at my 
bracket right out and you looked

708
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:37,800
at the projected 12 versus the 
projected 13s and you looked at 

709
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,100
their Ken pom, the average Ken 
pom ranking of the 12. 

710
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:48,200
Is 70, the average Camp am 
ranking of the 13th is 78. 

711
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,200
So there's not a material 
difference between 12 and 13 is 

712
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,300
right now, but that's subject to
change. 

713
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,000
Depending on the results of 
these small conference 

714
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,400
tournaments. 
If you have the, you know, like 

715
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,700
the ones get upset, then you 
might get some, some 14s, some 

716
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,400
current 14s, get pushed up to 
13, just to fill in that spot 

717
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,300
with these bid Steelers. 
So, you know, like as it sits 

718
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,700
right now, I don't think that 
there's as a material Difference

719
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:17,600
between the 4 and the 5, but 
that's subject to change based 

720
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,400
on how these small conference 
tournaments play up. 

721
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:24,500
What's funny about the for line 
is and I'm also guilty of this 

722
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:28,700
as well but I think a lot of 
people are looking at that Iona 

723
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,400
13 seed and they got to get 
there but it's like with 

724
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,800
playing, you know, being a 
four-seat, it's like hey here's 

725
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,100
what you're protected seed in 
the tournament and your reward 

726
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:38,700
is playing a team coach Rick 
Pitino. 

727
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:43,200
It's I think it's just scaring 
the heck out of everybody and 

728
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,900
and I think that's going to be 
like, I've already calling it. 

729
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:47,600
I think that's going to be 
everyone's upset. 

730
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,500
Pick is whoever's playing Iona. 
So I appreciate you not having 

731
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:53,600
us matchup against them in your 
bracket. 

732
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:59,300
Yeah, I mean, it's have to even 
look at all right, I haven't 

733
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:02,800
playing Connecticut. 
Yeah, so good luck to 

734
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Connecticut but honestly, if I'm
a, this was another question 

735
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,400
that I was notified about on 
Twitter regarding good. 

736
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,300
Bad matchups to look out for in 
the tournament. 

737
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,300
And regarding the, the twelves 
in the 13th, if you look at the 

738
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:26,200
twelves and 13s, that typically 
stun the fours and fives. 

739
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,300
You generally see teams that 
have potent offense has 

740
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,900
especially teams that are led by
talented guards. 

741
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,500
Usually that are that can get 
hot from Deep. 

742
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:42,700
So three point shooters. 
So based on that, I think that 

743
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:47,100
there's two particular teams 
neither of which are Iona that I

744
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,600
would want to avoid and I 
reference one of them. 

745
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,500
Last time I came on the pot and 
that's Oral Roberts who already 

746
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:55,100
punched their ticket. 
They're going to be, I think 

747
00:42:55,100 --> 00:43:01,000
that they're 100% locked into a 
12 seed and they have two guards

748
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,200
and Maximus and Issac McBride 
that can score a ton of points. 

749
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,700
They're good. 
Deep the there. 

750
00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:12,200
If you look at 10 p.m. or Robert
says, great offensive 

751
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,800
efficiency, there are team that 
I would be worried about if I 

752
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,400
was if Indiana were to fall 
2005. 

753
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,500
Because I'm pretty sure they're 
locked into a 12 if they stay as

754
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,900
a for the 13 seed that I'd want 
to avoid and they might not even

755
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:29,000
come out of the Mac. 
You could see Kent State or 

756
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,000
somebody else come out but if 
Toledo does hold serve and come 

757
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,600
out of the Mac. 
They I don't Don't let me see a 

758
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,600
head that had it pulled up. 
I'm searching it right now. 

759
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,500
Toledo's offensive efficiency, 
adjusted offensive efficiency is

760
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,900
eight in the country on. 
Can't bomb. 

761
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:48,000
Granted. 
There are other their defense 

762
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,700
efficiencies 276. 
So Indiana should be able to put

763
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,500
up a boatload of points. 
But if you get into a shootout 

764
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:59,000
with them, they have, you know, 
like they have four players who 

765
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,900
can really fill it up that can 
shoot that can score from Deep. 

766
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:05,700
They have Ray J. 
Dennis. 

767
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:12,100
Is puts up 20 a game. 
There are there a dangerous 

768
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:16,900
mid-major that you could get in 
a shootout with that you that I 

769
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:21,000
personally would want to avoid. 
If I was Indiana especially for 

770
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,100
an Indiana team that we don't 
you know, our numbers aren't bad

771
00:44:24,107 --> 00:44:27,100
and our offense is not bad but 
we just don't shoot a lot of 

772
00:44:27,107 --> 00:44:30,000
Threes we don't really have an 
explosive offense, think we have

773
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,800
a good and efficient offense but
when you you know you're looking

774
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,300
like yeah I'm looking at some of
these numbers for or Roberts 

775
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:40,200
like their 33rd in the country 
and Tempo 26 adjusted offense on

776
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,800
Ken Palm. 
That's a frightening 

777
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,800
combination. 
That's a team that can play fast

778
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,700
and score and it's something 
Galen talk about his last 

779
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,300
bracket racket podcast. 
You know teams to look out for 

780
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:52,600
in the tournament. 
The last couple of years, we've 

781
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,700
definitely seen a shift where 
teams who have good are adjusted

782
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,800
offensive numbers and good 
Tempo. 

783
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,800
Primarily do better than those 
teams that are just great on the

784
00:45:01,808 --> 00:45:03,700
defensive side now that doesn't 
matter. 

785
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:05,700
Not that it couldn't change, but
it's just history. 

786
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,600
History. 
Recent history has shown that 

787
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,700
teams that have really good 
adjust of offenses, are doing 

788
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:13,000
better in the tournament. 
So I think it's a great place to

789
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,600
look. 
If you have any other, you know,

790
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,100
picking the bracket suggestions 
ideas, I will say, for me, the 

791
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,500
one thing I've always had 
success with is I try and look 

792
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,100
at like, who I look at things 
kind of from a larger 

793
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:30,600
perspective and like going into 
it unless something drastically 

794
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,000
changes. 
I think Kansas is a very 

795
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,900
well-rounded team. 
And so I look at it, like, I'm 

796
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:40,500
probably going to pick Kansas 
into my final four and I kind of

797
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:43,900
do that and then build the 
bracket around that and then I'm

798
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:47,800
more willing to take some 
chances on the 45s in those 

799
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,700
turd. 
And those situate on in that 

800
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,900
side of the bracket because it's
like you can grab a cup. 

801
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:57,400
Some early points with getting 
upsets correct. 

802
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,900
The trouble is if you're wrong 
and then it's like you bounced, 

803
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:03,300
you know, a four seed Xavier. 
Who goes to the final four. 

804
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:04,600
That's where it kills your 
bracket. 

805
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,600
It, I look at it more like all 
right, if I already think that 

806
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Kansas is my one C is is my 
person out of this region to get

807
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,200
to the final four. 
Then I'll build around it and I 

808
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,600
can put some upsets two lines 
back of that because no matter 

809
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,900
what in my mind whether Xavier 
is there or you know, they're 

810
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:25,800
upset Jour is there. 
I don't have them getting by 

811
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,100
Kansas. 
So I kind of build a brick walls

812
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:30,400
in my. 
That's how I do my brackets. 

813
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,400
My film out. 
I kind of build brick walls and 

814
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,600
it's like no matter what any 
team is. 

815
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,400
This brick wall and so I kind of
picked my for final four teams 

816
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,900
and then go from there. 
I'm just curious, you know, how 

817
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,100
do you how do you do that? 
And you have you had success 

818
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,900
with that. 
I would say I've had middle and 

819
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:49,300
success with my I'll end with 
the, you know, I'll bury the 

820
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,200
lead that my success rate hasn't
been awesome. 

821
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,200
Although I've normally been done
pretty well in my pools. 

822
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:55,600
Sure. 
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that

823
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,800
there's a right and wrong 
strategy if you look if you dive

824
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,800
into the numbers a little bit 
and plugging my own son, Right 

825
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,900
again on typically I release it 
Tuesday or Wednesday night prior

826
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:12,100
to the start of the tournament 
after selection Sunday. 

827
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:16,200
Every year, I have an article 
that's titled how to win your 

828
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,400
bracket pool, and it gives you a
step-by-step instructions and 

829
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,400
how to fill out your bracket. 
I have an advanced analytics 

830
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000
data science and machine 
learning based model that 

831
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,800
actually projects the outcome of
the tournament and the 

832
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,200
likelihood it has. 
You'll if you You take a look at

833
00:47:35,207 --> 00:47:38,900
this article again, how to win. 
Your bracket pool is the name of

834
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:40,600
the article and you can search 
how to win. 

835
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,900
Your bracket pool 2022 2021. 
Go to my site, you'll be able to

836
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:47,600
find these articles and it has 
charts that show each team's 

837
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:53,100
likelihood based on my modeling 
of advancing to the round of 32 

838
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,600
advancing to the Sweet 16 
advancing to the final four. 

839
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,500
When I get also, it has the 
conditional probabilities of 

840
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:01,700
advancing. 
So, I, whenever I'm filling out 

841
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:05,300
my bracket, if I'm going to be a
believer, my own model, Then I 

842
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:06,700
fill it out based on what the 
model says. 

843
00:48:06,707 --> 00:48:11,500
So there's I do some chalky 
stuff earlier on, you know, like

844
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:16,800
the automatic thing is Advanced.
Don't don't get cute with upsets

845
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,600
especially on the one through 
four lines. 

846
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,600
You know, Advanced one through 
four to the round of 32 Advance 

847
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,200
your one and two seeds to the 
Sweet. 16. 

848
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Sure looks cool. 
If you happen to get the eight 

849
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,600
or seven that knocks off the one
or two, right. 

850
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,800
But like you said you risk 
losing More points because if 

851
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,400
that one seed does go to the 
final four, then you missed out 

852
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,900
on all the points because you 
had them losing in the round of 

853
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:45,000
32. 
So it gives guidance on that and

854
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,700
then act that identifies you 
know teams most likely to make 

855
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:51,900
your final four so you can kind 
of fill out your who's going to 

856
00:48:51,908 --> 00:48:54,900
make the final four and then the
teams that are most likely to 

857
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:58,300
Spring those eleven twelve 
upsets and then the last thing 

858
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:02,500
it focuses on is really the the 
way that you distinguish self 

859
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:03,800
from the first round. 
Some people. 

860
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,800
From a bracket filling out 
perspective, like to think, oh, 

861
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,700
I'm going to distinguish Myself 
by picking this Stellar upset, 

862
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,500
that no one else picks in the 
12:5 line. 

863
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,000
But that's not how you 
distinguish yourself, so much as

864
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,500
having a good run in the 
seventh. 

865
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,200
And eight, nine games, that's 
really how you separate yourself

866
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,500
from your competition. 
When you're filling out a 

867
00:49:23,508 --> 00:49:27,400
bracket is, there's eight of 
those every year, the 710, 89 

868
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,200
games, and they're generally 
speaking about a coin flip. 

869
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,500
So you would expect, you know, I
should probably get four of 

870
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:37,400
these Right is about the 
expectation, maybe five, but if 

871
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,600
you can creep into that six 
territory then six out of eight,

872
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,900
right in the 710, 89 games, then
you're going to have an 

873
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:45,900
advantage against your opponent.
So that's that's why I'd focus 

874
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:50,000
on and I specifically have in my
how to fill out your bracket 

875
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,500
guidance. 
Like these are the games that 

876
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:55,800
where there's a team that you 
should definitively pick 

877
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,200
typically, out of the eight, 
there's usually about four that 

878
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,600
it's like you should definitely 
pick this team over this other 

879
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,500
one and the other forts honestly
enough of a coin flip that you 

880
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:06,500
should have legitimately We take
out a coin and flip and hope you

881
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:08,800
get lucky. 
I love that. 

882
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Let me get you out of here on 
this. 

883
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,900
Joe three. 
Three teams that you like for 

884
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,100
the final four, but I'm going to
put them in buckets, like, give 

885
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:22,200
me one kind of chalky team. 
One, you know, mid team that I 

886
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,100
would say is that, you know, 
three, four, five seed and then 

887
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,200
one, you know, six seed or 
higher based on your current 

888
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,000
bracket, I know there's a lot of
games to play, I know it all 

889
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,200
depends on regions and where 
they get bracketed. 

890
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,400
So But, you know, give me three 
teams. 

891
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,900
They're 14. 
And if you want another team 

892
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:40,400
from those buckets by those 
three buckets, like a chalky, 

893
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:44,000
you know, one, two, three seeds.
The you know, mid tier 4, 5, 6 

894
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,600
seeds, and then the, the dark 
horses, you know, give me a team

895
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,200
from each of those buckets to 
keep an eye on. 

896
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:53,300
See I'm so conservative and 
making my predictions because my

897
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:56,000
not chalky team was going to be 
somebody like, Texas. 

898
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,700
I'm like that. 
That's not, that's not chalky. 

899
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:06,900
So, I suppose I mean, It's hard 
for me too. 

900
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:11,400
I'm a big being an actuary being
a person that has a developed 

901
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,600
model. 
The advanced analytics stuff is 

902
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,800
something or that I rely on 
heavily and I'm sure you're 

903
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,900
going to know where I'm going 
with this before I even finish 

904
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,600
the sentiment but it's hard for 
me to not have Houston, be my 

905
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,000
chalky team, the advance their 
an advanced analytics darling, 

906
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:29,600
you know, like they played when 
they played Alabama. 

907
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,500
Yeah, they lost but they played 
them tough. 

908
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:37,500
They there they've, you know, 
Like they was she didn't shed 

909
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:43,200
and Sasser and just the the play
that they get and and I know 

910
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,200
Indiana fans might rub, you 
know. 

911
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,000
Like they don't love hearing 
this with Calvin cell Sampson at

912
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,200
the Holland. 
Great coach. 

913
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:54,000
Yeah, I mean like I just think 
that they're they're going to be

914
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,700
a team that's there and the 
final for the next the next 

915
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:05,200
spot, you know, the The Dark 
Horse team. 

916
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:14,300
If I have to go four, five, six,
I might see somebody like a, I 

917
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,800
don't know. 
Like, I mean, technically, 

918
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,500
they're there on the three but 
any of those big east teams, I'm

919
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:23,600
gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 
cheat and say that, any of that 

920
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,000
meant that that cohort of 
Marquette Yukon Xavier thing, 

921
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,600
any one of those teams could be 
on a final four, run from that 

922
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,300
34 line. 
If you can count that as a mid 

923
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:38,700
team, I think any of them are 
capable of that and then if let 

924
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:43,000
me pull up my bracket here, and 
look at my, who jumps out at me,

925
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,000
as a, as a team beyond that, 
that I think could make run. 

926
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:52,600
Hmm. 
Gosh. 

927
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,500
That's tough. 
I'm really I hate picking teams 

928
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:59,800
beyond that because all I number
say they're like well it never 

929
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,100
has barely ever happens. 
You let right there? 

930
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:03,600
It's super memorable when it 
does. 

931
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,400
So people think it happens more 
than it does. 

932
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,100
But teams outside of those top 
four or five lines, making a run

933
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:15,400
to the final fours as few and 
far between but maybe somebody 

934
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:22,900
like a Man, like a if I can if I
can count a 6 as a just because 

935
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,500
I said, yeah fine. 
But can counter six is a real 

936
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:28,900
Dark Horse. 
Am with Buzz Williams. 

937
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,200
I think they've gotten hot 
lately. 

938
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,900
I think that they're perfectly 
capable of especially with the, 

939
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,600
you know, like they just knocked
off Alabama. 

940
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,300
So clearly, they're capable of 
being those high quality 

941
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:41,900
opponents. 
You know, like if they get 

942
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,700
Frankly, if they're in Vegas, 
that's not too far, you know, 

943
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,600
like they could have some people
travel from am to from College 

944
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,100
Station to Vegas and or if they 
get put in the Midwest and go up

945
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:59,900
to Kansas City, they've got a 
shot to make a run. 

946
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,100
If you want to give another one,
I feel like this is bad because 

947
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:05,700
I'm going to give a fourth Big 
East team, but cratons got a lot

948
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:09,700
of talent. 
So I think that Creighton's also

949
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:12,800
capable of doing something 
special, if they can put it 

950
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,500
together. 
So I agree. 

951
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:16,000
I agree with you on a lot of 
those. 

952
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,700
I also agree with you and 
create, I think Creighton is 

953
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:22,100
going to be an interesting pick 
going to this because it's just 

954
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,000
hard to place them because they 
had so many injuries. 

955
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:27,400
It really screws up all of their
metrics. 

956
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:31,100
It's not going to help their 
seed line but they that's a team

957
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:33,000
that had they been healthy all 
year. 

958
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,900
Could have been a three seed 
maybe but they're not and their 

959
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:39,400
metrics don't show it and if you
just look at them on paper, they

960
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,800
look like a succeed but they're 
not right now. 

961
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,500
They're a, they're going to be a
really interesting case. 

962
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:47,900
Yep. 
I'm trying agree and for that 

963
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:50,000
I'm not I don't even need to 
waste any more time. 

964
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,000
I agree for the reasons that you
mentioned. 

965
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:55,000
Yep. 
Joe it's been a pleasure. 

966
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,900
Having you on here this time of 
year, I know you got work to do 

967
00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:01,700
on the real job and also on the 
131 sports, but I appreciate 

968
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:03,600
you, put it up there, appreciate
you taking some time. 

969
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,800
I will get you out of here on 
this being, an Indiana podcast. 

970
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,400
Where do you give me top for it?
Top four seeds in the Big Ten. 

971
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:19,800
Purdue Indiana, Northwestern, 
Michigan State, and just for 

972
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,300
shits Iowa, those five teams 
just round robin quick. 

973
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,300
Give me the team and where do 
you think they? 

974
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:27,900
What's there, what are they top 
out in the tournament this year?

975
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,600
All right? 
So Purdue history and you know, 

976
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,900
like they're, they're great 
team. 

977
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,000
I think that they're going to 
end up as a 2 seed, and I think 

978
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:44,200
that they lose in the sweet 16, 
of course you do. 

979
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,600
Because that Under cheering for 
them Northwestern. 

980
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,400
You know, I think that they to 
be the two seed in the Big Ten 

981
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,600
Tournament is I still can't 
believe that Collins was able to

982
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,800
achieve that with this team. 
Boo, Boo, E, is wildly volatile 

983
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,700
player. 
He could lead them farther than 

984
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:07,500
I anticipate but I, you know, 
like I think that they're 

985
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:12,800
probably win one and done in the
tournament as a, you know, like 

986
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,900
a round of succeed. 
Let's see here. 

987
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:19,500
Moving moving down, Indiana, I 
think Indiana's perfectly 

988
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:22,000
capable of losing in the first 
round. 

989
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,200
I think the perfectly capable of
making us Elite eight run. 

990
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,300
So in that vein, I think that 
they're going to be think 

991
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:32,300
they're going to come out of the
round of 64 and I think they're 

992
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:36,800
going to be in a barn burner 
against whoever they play and 

993
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,800
and be real competitive in the 
round of 32. 

994
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,300
And maybe you've you flip a coin
on whether or not they Advanced 

995
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:44,500
to the Sweet 16 or not. 
I think. 

996
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:49,300
That they probably do. 
I don't think TJ D is Gonna Let 

997
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:52,000
Them Fall anything short of that
if they're in that close game. 

998
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,200
He's he's such a grinder. 
And I got to see it firsthand, 

999
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,700
unfortunately twice. 
And so I guess I'll say my final

1000
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:06,800
pick their, as they also Indiana
also wins a couple and as a four

1001
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,400
seed in bhau's out in the sweet 
16. 

1002
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:15,100
I didn't know. 
Yeah, Michigan State I'll put 

1003
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:20,000
them in the man. 
I'll put mesh, I think. 

1004
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,700
Michigan state is going to as 
got sweet 16 potential as well. 

1005
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:28,700
I think that they're gonna come 
in around six or seven. 

1006
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,900
I'll say this, I think if they 
end up as a 7, then they lose in

1007
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:37,000
the set and the round of 32. 
If they're able to climb up to a

1008
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,000
6, then I think they go to the 
Sweet 16 and knock off of one of

1009
00:57:40,008 --> 00:57:42,500
the three seeds. 
So I put that to that to that 

1010
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:48,400
caveat and then Dresses and G's,
like you said, Iowa, the the 

1011
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:51,000
Fran mccaffery special. 
They're going to, they're going 

1012
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,600
to get stunned. 
Everyone of the they're going to

1013
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,900
lose in the round of 64. 
So and and Fran Fran will get 

1014
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:01,000
attack along the way. 
Well, that's that's given that's

1015
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,200
even money in Vegas. 
Yeah. 

1016
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,800
And We're Not Gonna Take Marilyn
because you're not playing at 

1017
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,200
home. 
So I know you have a hard out 

1018
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Joe. 
I really appreciate it, check 

1019
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,600
out their site, his sight 131 
sports.com and thank you all for

1020
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,000
listening until next time. 
This is Scott for Crimson cast 

1021
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,700
signing off.