1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,120 Hello and welcome back to another edition of the Indiana 2 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:12,480 Women's Basketball Podcast on the Crimson Cast Network. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,760 As always, Amanda Foster and Kevin Vera here for you talking 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,920 about all things Indiana women's basketball. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,320 We're back in Bloomington after a short little Thanksgiving 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,400 break, but we're going to talk to you about all things Indiana 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,960 basketball. Indiana had a great Thanksgiving 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,120 tournament and obviously we're going to get into it. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,560 A very impressive road trip for the Hoosiers. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,560 But First things first. I always got to ask how my 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,320 partner and crime is doing. Amanda, how are you? 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Kevin I'm doing well. Pretty tired after a very busy 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Thanksgiving break for me. Not necessarily a break. 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,160 And then coming back and getting right into more school work and 15 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:46,320 more. Basketball coming up. 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,160 But I was always just happy to be here and excited to be 17 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:52,560 talking about basketball with you again and in person this 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,440 time, not, not over. Stream Yard. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,800 Yeah, exactly. Last our last week's episode was 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,600 over. Which it? 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Worked. It worked out well, but it's a 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,760 lot more fun. It's a lot. 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,680 More fun doing it in person obviously, and we got all the 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,200 nice equipment and whatnot, but let me just say I am very happy 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,920 to be here. But it is freezing cold outside 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,680 it is like 19°. Everybody that I've talked to 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,000 today is complaining about it. I woke up this morning and it 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,920 was 57° in my apartment because we forgot to turn on the heat 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,880 throughout the night. But. 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,760 How do you forget to turn on the heat at the end of November? 31 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,440 It's not like yesterday it was cold too. 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,480 It's just not out of heat. It's just two dudes being dudes 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,280 in their college apartment. But yeah, that makes sense. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,800 It's we'll get right into it. Indiana actually jumped up four 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,240 spots in the women's Basketball poll AP poll this week. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,360 They went from 21 to 17 after their two wins over Tennessee 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,600 and Princeton. And obviously that was the 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,680 biggest moment of the non conference schedule for Indiana. 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Aside from the Stanford game, the Princeton and the Tennessee 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,640 matchups over in the Fort Myers Invitational were the biggest 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,160 ones of the season. Amanda, you were there. 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,240 I was there. You were there enjoying, well, I 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,000 would say sunny Florida, but you told me it was actually a little 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 bit cloudy. It was a it went, it was between 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,320 like 65 and 70° every day, and it was cloudy every day. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,280 So yeah, it was not, not like the ideal Florida vacation, but 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,160 it's OK. It's fine. 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,400 Yeah, I was busy enough. I didn't have a whole lot of 49 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,600 free time anyway. So it's. 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,440 I'll just have to go back to Florida at some point. 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,760 Maybe not Fort Myers. Fort Myers was fine, but there 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,480 are other places that I would rather go in Florida. 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Next time, yeah, Well, the Hoosiers got two victories over 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,040 there. They got a 71 to 57 victory 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,560 against Tennessee in their first game, first game on Thanksgiving 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Day, and then the second game was a 72 to 63 victory over the 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Princeton Tigers. Both teams are, though both 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Tennessee and Princeton are now are now ranked, and obviously 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Indiana is ranked as well. But Amanda, I guess, I mean, you 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,360 were there. You saw those entire games. 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,080 I mean, we'll start with Tennessee. 62 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,280 What did you see that really highlighted the the Hoosiers in 63 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,880 that game? Yeah, I mean you you have to 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,160 start out with Yarding Garzone, because that was, that was her 65 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,680 game. It was her birthday, which was 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,800 really, really cool. And she scored a career high 23 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,240 points and was just completely, She was playing basketball like 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,800 the best that I think I've probably seen her play, or at 69 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,800 least alongside the best of whatever you can point to, where 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,960 you think that she was playing really, really well and a key. 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,360 For Tennessee and we talked about this was that they didn't 72 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,400 have Rakia Jackson. And so with that I think that 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,600 they were lacking a little bit of a a leader on the floor, but 74 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,600 it they were still a very, very good team. 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,880 And so I would still put it up as a very, very impressive win 76 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,600 against a really strong, really, really physical Tennessee team. 77 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Did both games in Florida were the most physical games 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Indiana's played, and they did a really good job of managing that 79 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,560 and not getting too upset about the the foul calls or the lack 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,720 of foul calls. And they were able to keep their 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,000 composure really well, which as a whole I was really impressed 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 with. And we talked about defense 83 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,720 going into this game and going into to this weekend or week 84 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,520 down in Florida. And the defense against 85 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Tennessee is where I was sitting. 86 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,160 I was directly next to. The Indiana bench. 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,680 So I could hear everything that the bench was saying to the 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,160 players on the court, which was really cool. 89 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,600 They were also yelling out a bunch of defensive plays that I 90 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,640 didn't know what they meant. So they were just a bunch of 91 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,120 words flying around. I was like, oh, they've said 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,880 that a lot. I keep I don't know what that 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,519 means but they've said it a lot. So they that's one of their go 94 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:24,120 to plays. And so there's a lot of they 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,840 were obviously there was a lot of yelling about getting 96 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:28,440 rebounds and boxing out and you could see that transfer over to 97 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,120 the players on the court and the intensity at which they played 98 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,920 defensively against both Tennessee and Princeton. 99 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,760 Was a new level that we haven't seen before and that that's the 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,120 level that they need to be playing at and the level that 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,520 they need to be working on to get even better. 102 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Yeah, I mean that was the biggest question going into this 103 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,440 week was defensively. Terry expressed herself very 104 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,440 blatantly. She was very honest with us in 105 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,560 the in the media press conference and she said hey 106 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,440 look, this team is is doing fine I guess offensively but 107 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,280 defensively, you know the struggles are there. 108 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:08,400 But that The funny thing about that is let me, let me pull up 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,200 the game you go. She said that right after the 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Lipscomb game, which was a 77 to 43 victory and she said similar 111 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,600 stuff against that in the Murray State which was you know 112 to 112 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,960 79 victory. You know, that's to me, that's 113 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:33,400 just Coach knowing that her team can be better. 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,840 But it's it's just funny to me in a way, just simply because 115 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,240 they, I mean they go out and they blow out two opponents and 116 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 she said those things, but that's a little bit off topic. 117 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,960 But yeah, the biggest conversation heading into this 118 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,520 week was just simply how well they were going to pair up 119 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,800 defensively against these teams. And he talked about it. 120 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Not having Ricky or Jackson obviously helped the Hoosiers a 121 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,720 little bit, but everybody looked looked well. 122 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,280 I mean Yarden, like you mentioned, had a very good game. 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,320 It was her best game of the season. 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,320 We we were waiting for Yarden to sort of have one of these types 125 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,440 of performances. She was playing well at every 126 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,440 point of the season so far, but we were just waiting to see that 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 type of performance that we saw sort of in the second-half of 128 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,800 last year, you know, sort of coming to be. 129 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,880 She also in that game went five for six from three, and that's 130 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,600 something that we were also talking about, about somebody 131 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 else stepping up from beyond the arc. 132 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,000 And there you go. I mean, she's she's there, she's 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,160 set. She's ready to go. 134 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,920 Yeah, that. That's one. 135 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,280 I think I told you in last week's episode that I wanted to 136 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:38,200 see Indiana sort of shoot the ball more from the outside, and 137 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,920 they did that against Tennessee. But that's where they really got 138 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,360 their, their, their game. In the Princeton game, Indiana 139 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,720 won that one, just like we mentioned, 72 to 63. 140 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Princeton, a very good team. We knew it was going to be a 141 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,600 good game. Amanda, last year they were. 142 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,800 I mean, the past couple of years, they've two years, yeah, 143 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,720 they've been a tournament team team and people were kind of 144 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,760 talking about them about sort of being one of those. 145 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,920 They received votes last week in the previous team and you know 146 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 that was going to be a tough matchup because Indiana was 147 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,040 essentially going up against two ranked teams and it proved to be 148 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,680 correct. Yeah, Princeton is now ranked. 149 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,520 They're 25th, and then Tennessee dropped one in the poll to 20th. 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,360 But yeah, that that makes it even bigger. 151 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Yeah, exactly. And and look, it was, it was a 152 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,160 very, I think in my opinion, that was the more impressive 153 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,560 game out of the two because they were just simply in control the 154 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,200 entire time. It was pretty much just Sarah 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Scalia going off. She had 28 points, the most in 156 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 her Indiana career. And like we just said Indiana 157 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,760 shot extremely well from three in that game. 158 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,880 They shot exactly 50%. And yeah, it was just a pretty 159 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,200 good game from from the Indiana side and and credits Princeton, 160 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Princeton, they played a lot better in the second-half. 161 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,920 The first half Indiana kind of got out really fast and sort of 162 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,680 dominated the pace. But in the second-half Princeton 163 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,720 paired up well, but Indiana just got too much of of a lead in the 164 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,520 first half and Princeton just didn't have enough time to catch 165 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,360 up. But other big news in that one 166 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Mackenzie home schooled scored 2000 points, 2000 career point, 167 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,320 not 2000 points. That would be a. 168 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Lot of points. She got her 2000 career point. 169 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,960 She's at 2004 points now in her Indiana career. 170 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,720 But I mean, yeah, what did you see in the Princeton game? 171 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,760 First of all, I have to say I was so impressed by Princeton 172 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,560 and I'm very, very glad that they're ranked. 173 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 And this is something that Terry Moore and talked a lot about in 174 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,480 the post game press conference was that Princeton should be 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,039 ranked and they will be ranked at some point and here they are 176 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:38,240 next week being ranked. They're a very, very talented 177 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,440 team. Ellie Mitchell is so good. 178 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,480 She is so good at rebounding. She's physical. 179 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,720 She's matching up with Mackenzie Holmes and anybody else that she 180 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,040 went up against and Indiana did a really good job of containing 181 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,360 her. They kept Princeton's leading 182 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,280 scorers to probably I haven't, I haven't looked but like one of 183 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,800 some of the lowest points that they've scored in the last few 184 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,200 games, like Madison St. Rose. 185 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,080 She only scored 11 points and then back when they played 186 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Oklahoma a couple games, like the game before that, she put up 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,560 a whole lot more than 11 points and so that was really 188 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:09,720 impressive. Again, just the defensive effort 189 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 that Indiana put in and something that I noticed. 190 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Obviously. Sarah Salia went 10 for 17 and 191 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,160 five for 9 from 3 point range and she was like yarding. 192 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,800 Garzone was the night before just completely focused and and 193 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,840 hitting every single shot. But she also was second on the 194 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,240 team with 7 rebounds. And that was something 195 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,120 throughout the entire trip to Florida, so many more players 196 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,680 were going up for rebounds. It wasn't just Mackenzie Holmes. 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,480 It wasn't just whoever, you know. 198 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,080 Everybody was making a much more concentrated effort in my mind 199 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,840 to to box out and to fight for those rebounds and to to play a 200 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,520 little bit more aggressively, which I think is one of the main 201 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,240 reasons that they were able to win is because everybody. 202 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Took on that mindset that Terry Moran was talking about in terms 203 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,160 of just needing to have a little bit more tenacity in whatever 204 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,720 you're doing on the floor. But the main thing that stood 205 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,120 out for me was was Sarah Scalia and the three-point shooting in 206 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,000 that game. Because she was just and the 207 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,640 Princeton players and coach talked about it. 208 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,520 They just couldn't stop her because she would get around 209 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,480 them and then they knew that she was going to score and she was 210 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,760 just, she read the game so well and they couldn't adjust to what 211 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,320 she was doing well. Credit to to Sarah with how 212 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,800 she's started this season. You know, the the conversation 213 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,160 in terms of just strictly Sarah Scalia at the beginning of the 214 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,960 year was OK, Well, her second-half wasn't necessarily 215 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,840 great. Last year, her second-half 216 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,160 wasn't necessarily great. It was her first year as a 217 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,400 Hoosier and and there was a lot of expectations with her coming, 218 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,920 switching from a Big Ten team to another Big 10 team And then 219 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,520 things, I mean simply just didn't work out her way in the 220 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,720 second-half last year. That was the conversation was 221 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,280 OK, well, what type of Sarah Scally is Indiana going to get 222 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,760 starting this season. And look, I mean credit to her 223 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,120 credit to her. She has played it exactly the 224 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,040 way that if I was a coach, I would want her to play. 225 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,080 She's shot the ball with confidence even when she hasn't 226 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,840 been making them. She hasn't been hesitating on 227 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,040 shooting the three whenever she's wanted to. 228 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Indiana has probably kind of given her somewhat of a green 229 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,280 light to say just say, hey, if you want to shoot it, shoot it. 230 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,680 I think to me she's been probably the most impressive 231 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:23,000 player this season just because she's really starting to grow, 232 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,200 grow into her role. She's really starting to embrace 233 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,360 what she's supposed to be doing on this team and it's clearly 234 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,720 shown to be a a really good asset for the Hoosiers enemy. 235 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,120 We saw that against Princeton. Yeah, well and looking at the 236 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,680 stats right now, she leads the team in points per game. 237 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:40,440 She's got 18.7 in the Mackenzie Holmes. 238 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Because 17.8. So you know they're pretty close 239 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,200 but those are the top two players for Indiana right now on 240 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,760 at least the offensive side. But this is I think exactly how 241 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,960 you want Sarah Scalia. Because Sarah Scalia to be 242 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,360 playing and I for a long time have been wanting to write a 243 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,280 story about her and I was so glad that I got to write about 244 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,160 her over on a in Florida because it was just it was a it was a 245 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,640 fantastic performance and she's. Her She and Mackenzie Holmes 246 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,120 were the reason that Indiana won that game, and it was largely 247 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,040 the threat that Sarah posed everywhere on the floor. 248 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,440 And then either Mackenzie Holmes would find her, she would find 249 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,080 Mackenzie, and then that was just like a A duo the entire 250 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,280 time. Yeah, well, the both of them 251 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,040 combined for 48 points out of Indiana's 72. 252 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,040 And one thing that I noticed sort of looking back on this 253 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,400 game yesterday, only the starters scored against 254 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,280 Princeton. They were the only ones that put 255 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,240 up points. Some of the bench players got 256 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,040 into the game, but it was really just Indiana going in and and 257 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,200 being effective with their starting five. 258 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,800 But quickly going back to Sarah, I think Indiana is really going 259 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,480 to have to rely a lot on Sarah moving forward in the moving 260 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:55,360 forward in the season because this is so you lose Grace 261 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Burger, right? You lose Grace Burger and so now 262 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,840 you kind of don't have a person or you don't know who's gonna be 263 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,440 able to put up that shot and make that shot in those tough 264 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,640 moments. When you say, hey, I mean in 265 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,000 basketball there's times you just need to give the ball to 266 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,040 your to the person and be like, hey, go get us a shot. 267 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,560 And right now, if things continue to play out the way 268 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:17,880 that they're playing out right now, I think Sarah was going to 269 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,120 be that that person for for Indiana this season. 270 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,720 I completely agree. And the way that she approaches 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,640 the game, she's so businesslike and she's so focused on 272 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,440 strategies, whether it's her strategies or what the other 273 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,920 teams are going to do against her that I think she's very, 274 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,840 very well equipped to take on that role. 275 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,680 Yeah. And look, it's it's sort of nice 276 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:41,360 to see at this point of the season, right before you go into 277 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,400 Big 10, play well two games before you go into Big 10, play 278 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,680 close enough. But because it gives you 279 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:48,880 confidence, You know what I mean? 280 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,040 You kind of want to start figuring these things out. 281 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,680 At this point of the season, Yes, still a young season. 282 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:57,280 I mean, it's been just 6-7 games for the majority of programs 283 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,680 across the nation. But, I mean, you kind of got to 284 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:04,680 start figuring out where your team, one needs to improve and 285 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,080 also what role, what types of role players you have on your 286 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,400 team. Like who's going to go out, like 287 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,800 I just mentioned, who's going to go out and get you those tough 288 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,840 shots? Who's going to be your defensive 289 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,920 presence, whatever it may be. But Indiana's kind of sort of 290 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,000 the start. They're starting to figure that 291 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,600 out with Sarah and and look, I've been very impressed with 292 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Sarah. Obviously, you know, this team 293 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 is backed up by by Mackenzie, but I think Indiana or I'm 294 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,520 sorry, Sarah's role is becoming more and more important for this 295 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,080 Indiana team. Yeah, well, and you can't just 296 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 rely on Mackenzie Holmes to do everything and get you buckets 297 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,120 every single time. That's not how that works. 298 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 That's not how basketball is. And so to have somebody else 299 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,000 step up and and fill that role in a different way, obviously 300 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,520 you're not going to have Sarah driving in the post. 301 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 But that you know that the fact that she doesn't do that just 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,800 adds more depth to Indiana's team. 303 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,080 If she and Mackenzie can both consistently score up to close 304 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,280 to 20 points per game like that that's kind of immeasurable. 305 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,160 And the and the impact that they can have, well just quickly 306 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,560 before we switch topics, it's, I mean you say Sarah is not going 307 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,640 to go into the post. Well, she she might. 308 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,160 Because she did, exactly. I was going to say she's been 309 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,560 able to find herself getting a lot of. 310 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,840 It wasn't just against the Prince Again, She's been able to 311 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,200 get boards consistently throughout the season, and from 312 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,960 what I've been able to watch, she's not really. 313 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,520 She's been alone every time she's begotten those rebounds. 314 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,600 But just simply because she's kind of positions herself in the 315 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,960 area she's I mean she's has a how do I how do I put this in 316 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,080 the words she's put. She has a very good eye for 317 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,960 tracking the ball when it comes off the rim. 318 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,760 And yeah and she's been able to just happen to be at the right 319 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,840 place right time and she's been able to get those rebounds. 320 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,200 But anyway Indiana gets the win over Tennessee and Princeton 321 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,320 they leave Fort Myers undefeated 2 and O and that was you know of 322 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,200 much needed cup pair of wins. Yeah you really after Stanford 323 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,120 you really needed to leave Florida feeling good about 324 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,000 yourself and it was in one of the social media clips that that 325 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,560 the Instagram or Twitter posted out for them and Terry said that 326 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,200 you guys are back, you guys are back. 327 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,280 You guys are fully back and and that's good to see if you're an 328 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Indiana fan and and I mean that's what you take away from 329 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,760 this weekend. You played two very good teams. 330 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,480 It was a very competitive Invitational in Indiana, you 331 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,120 know came out with the two wins. But the big topic for this 332 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,840 episode, because it's a very, very big week over here for the 333 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,520 women's program this Thursday, Indiana is going up and playing. 334 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,440 They're probably the one of the most anticipated matchups of the 335 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,400 season. You know, it has involves a lot 336 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,960 of people across the program. A lot of people have been 337 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,920 talking about this game since last year and it's the 338 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,640 homecoming debut for one of the best Hoosiers of all time. 339 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Mackenzie Holmes is heading back to her home state and they're 340 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,360 going to take on the University of Maine, the Black Bears for a 341 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,960 non conference matchup on Thursday, November 30th. 342 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:58,160 And look, I mean this game isn't about a spread or isn't about, I 343 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,360 guess, sort of who's better at basketball. 344 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,960 It's simply just highlighting and taking a second to step back 345 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,200 and saying pretty much thank you to one of the best players to 346 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,680 ever play for Indiana. And it's really something 347 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,079 special. We talked about this a couple 348 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,160 weeks ago that you don't see programs do this across the 349 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,680 country. Were they schedule games just 350 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,680 simply to say thank you to such a play? 351 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,319 A player that really has has taken this program to new levels 352 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:26,079 and that's what they're doing for Mackenzie in this game. 353 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,640 Yeah, and you know, Maine is a relatively competitive team. 354 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,880 It's not a total throwaway game. But you're absolutely right. 355 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,400 This is this is a game for Mackenzie Holmes. 356 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,760 And that says so much about what she's done for the program, what 357 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,720 the what the coaches think of her, how much they respect her, 358 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,720 how much they appreciate everything that she's done. 359 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,320 And it's, I mean, you can't, you can barely even put it to words. 360 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,600 She can barely put it in even words. 361 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,160 So I don't know how we're going to be able to kind of 362 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,360 encapsulate what this means for Mackenzie, for all of her 363 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,120 friends and her family and her coaches and everybody that are 364 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,000 going to be able to go watch her and some, a lot of them watch 365 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,440 her for the very first time. Because when you think about it, 366 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,880 like not everybody can make the trip. 367 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Obviously from Gorham, ME to Indiana, a lot of these people 368 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,200 have only ever been able to see her play on TV And so you know, 369 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,960 they're playing in Portland, so technically. 370 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,480 I think it'll be a a neutral site game. 371 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Gorham's 30 minutes from Portland. 372 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,440 The University of Maine's campus is, I want to say, a little over 373 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,680 an hour to two hours away. It's going to be an Indiana home 374 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,800 crowd. It like, I know Lenny Holmes, 375 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Mackenzie's dad, has sold over like 1000 tickets for the game. 376 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,200 Like my my mom and my aunt are driving up to go watch it like 377 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,680 you. This is going to be. 378 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,800 An Indiana game through and through. 379 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,480 Because that's just what it is. There's no other way. 380 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,400 There's it's impossible for it to be anything else. 381 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Yeah. And and it's I've never seen and 382 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,680 I I bet there's probably instances across across the 383 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,840 country of this of like scheduling games for the purpose 384 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,400 of having some sort of significance for a certain 385 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,720 player. But I've never seen it to this 386 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,560 level. I I mean you know if there is 387 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,240 you know I somebody just let me know. 388 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,200 You know what I mean? I I would love. 389 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,680 I would. Love to know. 390 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,080 Yeah. But I I've never seen a program 391 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,520 just say just say thank you right in this type of way. 392 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,160 And and Mackenzie's talked about it. 393 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,800 We're recording this on Tuesday evening. 394 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Tomorrow we're going to be able to talk to Mackenzie or the 395 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,760 media will be able to talk to Mackenzie. 396 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,400 So we're going to get to hear her opinions the day before the 397 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,640 game. But I I bet she's going to be 398 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,560 very emotional, very happy. Because yes, it's a basketball 399 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240 game, but this is not about basketball. 400 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,840 This is just simply about Mackenzie. 401 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,720 And it's it's really going to be awesome to see. 402 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,880 I I can't wait to see what the crowd is going to react. 403 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,440 I'm also curious to see just how much, how many people are going 404 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,160 to be wearing Indiana red or how many people are going to be 405 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,680 wearing main blue. But it's. 406 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:05,280 You know I if I put myself in Mackenzie shoes like if I was 407 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,640 you know an all American type player at at my program and and 408 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,320 a couple years ago they go up and say hey do you want to play 409 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,320 a game back home where you grew up where I mean you you know it 410 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,840 very well Maine is not necessarily a a basketball state 411 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,680 not at all yeah not at all And and for somebody to put the game 412 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,560 on a spotlight and and the way she's been doing it these past 413 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,360 couple years the way she's been able to build up a program and 414 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:36,040 now so I mean look there's still a lot more of the season to go 415 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,120 but now to kind of have a nice little cherry on top is is I 416 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:44,360 mean it's just special. Yeah, it's I oh, my gosh, it's 417 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:45,480 so. I'm from Maine. 418 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,040 We, I don't know. People don't know that from an 419 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,080 outside. Anybody who's not from Maine 420 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,040 doesn't really know. There are some various very 421 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,520 serious kind of basketball areas. 422 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,440 Gorham is one of them. But you wouldn't know it. 423 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Most people don't even know that Gorham exists. 424 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,640 So but their their girls basketball program at the high 425 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,120 school that McKenzie went to is one of the best in the state and 426 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,160 the the AAU team that she played for is one of the best in the 427 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:15,520 country and she has brought so many eyes to basketball in Maine 428 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,760 and shameless plug I just published a feature, you beat. 429 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,400 You beat McKenzie. Sorry. 430 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,480 I just published a feature about her earlier today for Inside the 431 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Hall and I talked to her AAU coach. 432 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,480 And there he said that they kind of had to fight to be to be 433 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,080 recognized and to get their players the the attention that 434 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,960 they deserved before McKenzie. And there are a lot of very 435 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,840 talented women's basketball players that have come out of 436 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Gorham and come out of Maine, but they all stayed in the 437 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Northeast because that was where they were recruited and that was 438 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600 where they chose to go. The fact that McKenzie has come 439 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,120 out to Indiana playing for a Big 10 school, making it to the 440 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:57,080 Sweet 16, the Elite 8, becoming an All American. 441 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,560 Has done wonders for just the kind of the reputation that 442 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,960 basketball has in Maine, and that's one of the the biggest 443 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,280 things. And her her coach, Don Briggs 444 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,920 got emotional when he was talking about it because he said 445 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,480 it. This is just the perfect way to 446 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,040 kind of it's like a full circle moment because she's going back 447 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,840 and she's playing on the court that she won high school state 448 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,320 championships on and that her whole family and her coaches and 449 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,880 all of her friends have been in those exact seats watching her 450 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,120 play. In high school, when she didn't 451 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:29,800 know where she was going to go, she didn't know what she was 452 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,640 going to do. Now she's coming back as an All 453 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,200 American, as one of the best players in the country playing 454 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,800 in front of those same exact people all over again for for 455 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 the last time for her senior year, which is it's incredible. 456 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,840 Yeah it's it's I mean it's just special and and Mackenzie very 457 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,120 happy for her first thing first. I mean this is exactly, you know 458 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,400 what you want for a player that. I mean, look I we've said it 459 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,200 multiple times this episode. We've said it multiple times 460 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,480 this year. But it it I think if you don't 461 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,480 pay attention to to Indiana basketball, I don't think you 462 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,400 realize how much players like Mackenzie, like Ali Papper, like 463 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,240 Chris Burger have really skyrocketed this program to to 464 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,680 what it has become. I mean people know Indiana 465 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,760 women's basketball now, but that really wasn't the case 10 years 466 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,720 ago. But because of these players, 467 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,280 you know Indiana is one of the best programs in the country, 468 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320 one of the most watched teams in the country. 469 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,920 I mean we just it it broke earlier to the earlier today 470 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,840 that the which one was the Tennessee or the Princeton. 471 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,400 The Tennessee game. Yeah, exactly correct. 472 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,880 Thank you. It was the Tennessee game on a 473 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,480 Fox on Thanksgiving Day that it was the most watched women's 474 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,160 basketball game on the network. It it, I believe it was 1.11 475 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,840 point 3 million people were tuned in to watch that game. 476 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,800 And look, I mean, that wasn't the case a couple years ago 477 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,280 that. I mean it just, it just simply 478 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,520 wasn't. But because Mackenzie Holmes has 479 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,040 done a lot for this program, you're able to get those 480 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,280 numbers. You know what I mean? 481 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,760 You're able to, you know, watch and look, I don't have the data, 482 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,360 I don't have the numbers in front of me. 483 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,760 But I pretty much guarantee you the majority of those people 484 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,240 watching were Indiana fans. And it's it's just, it's just 485 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,080 how it is. And so it just goes to show the 486 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,480 influence that Mackenzie's had, the the ability that she's had 487 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,560 to put this program on the map and just take it to the same 488 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,720 conversation of other elite women's programs across the 489 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320 country. So, yeah, go ahead. 490 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:32,200 Sorry. I think no. 491 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 And it's also super cool because this is the first time that a 492 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720 lot of her teammates are going to even get to see her her home 493 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,880 state and see because nobody, nobody really goes to Maine like 494 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,200 I, I, you know, unless you go for vacation, like people don't 495 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,680 just like up and say let's go to Maine for a a weekend because 496 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,200 it's it's kind of hard to get to. 497 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,720 You're in the middle of the woods most of the time. 498 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320 Like, it's beautiful. But it's not like a prime 499 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,800 vacation spot, I think, for a lot of people. 500 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,440 And so she was talking about this down in Florida when 501 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,760 somebody asked that, like, Sarah Scalia apparently is super 502 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,440 excited to go to Maine. I'm not sure why, but she is. 503 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,000 And like a lot of her teammates, she's been talking about it 504 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,680 forever. And so it's going to be a very 505 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720 special moment for all of them because in the process of the 506 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,880 people of Gorham and Maine becoming, you know, Mackenzie 507 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Holmes fans watching Indiana, they become fans of Sidney 508 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,200 Parrish and Chloe More McNeil. And Sarah Scalia and Terry, 509 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Terry Moran and everybody. So like you have, I, I would 510 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,400 say, a very similar level of fandom in Maine that you do in 511 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Indiana for this team, just because of how attached 512 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,400 everybody is. And so I think the whole team is 513 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,120 going to be very pleasantly surprised first by Maine because 514 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,400 I I love Maine. I think everybody who goes there 515 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,640 enjoys it in some way, as long as the, you know, the weather's 516 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,360 not awful, which it might be because it is the end of 517 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,720 November. But regardless, I think they're 518 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,000 going to really enjoy it and they it's just going to be kind 519 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,960 of more of like a bonding moment for them to be able to look at 520 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Mackenzie and be like wow, you have so much support that is 521 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,280 then coming on to us and it's just it's it's going to be 522 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,600 really, really special. Well it's it's the influence 523 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,320 part of this of this game. It's just you you can't really 524 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,360 put it in the words and you can't put it in the numbers. 525 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,320 But the influence that Mackenzie's probably that's 526 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Mackenzie's had on the state of Maine, I mean, you just said it 527 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,320 like there are Indiana basketball fans in Maine. 528 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Why? The only reason is because of 529 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,520 #54. And that's, I mean we've seen it 530 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,800 time and time again in sports. But these certain types of 531 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,440 situations, these little perfects like snowballs that 532 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520 just continue to roll and roll and get bigger and then they 533 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,680 become this, you know what I mean? 534 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,640 It just goes to show the influence that Mackenzie's had 535 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,120 across the state back home. And I mean she's I. 536 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240 It's also amazing for her family, all the people that 537 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,120 watched her grew up grow up. I mean, because you know, she's 538 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,080 a star now, you know what I mean in the world of college 539 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,440 basketball. But when you can go back and 540 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,080 reminisce on the days of, oh, I saw Mackenzie Holmes play in 541 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,760 her, you know, freshman game, sophomore game against, you 542 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,080 know, whatever, local high. School. 543 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480 I played against her. I played, I played against her. 544 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Yeah, exactly there. I I can't wait to see the 545 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,960 cameras or the social media clips or the photos that are 546 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,280 going to come out of people of the community having signs or 547 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,360 jerseys or or whatever it may be. 548 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,000 Yeah, exactly. Whatever it may be. 549 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Just saying thank you, Mackenzie. 550 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,000 You're highlighting Mackenzie. That's going to be awesome. 551 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,200 But look, it's it's going to be an amazing game. 552 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840 It's going to be look again, this is not a game about 553 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680 basketball. This is this game is about 554 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,200 Mackenzie Holmes and about what Indiana's been able to create 555 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040 alongside her and with obviously a lot of her help. 556 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320 But yeah the all American is gonna go back home and she's 557 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,480 she's gonna it's I I hope she's the I hope she drops like 80 558 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:03,000 points I just I hope she I hope she drops 8030 and 40 but you 559 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,440 know I I I am really happy for her. 560 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,400 It's really gonna be awesome for the entire program. 561 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,960 I I wonder how the post game presser is gonna go for for 562 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,440 both, you know, because equally this game is as important for 563 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Mackenzie as it is probably for Terry. 564 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,520 Terry's probably knows that. I mean she absolutely knows the 565 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,320 significance of this game and and that relationship they that 566 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,240 they have between themselves is something that nobody is going 567 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,800 to understand besides them too. And so you know, I I I'd imagine 568 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,920 some some very joyful and happy tears are going to be shed at 569 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,520 the end of the game. But yeah it's it's really going 570 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,160 to be an awesome game that's going to be this Thursday 571 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,840 November 30th. You know, TuneIn to watch that 572 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,160 game, listen to Austin render, because yeah, the game is on 573 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,400 ESPN plus, I believe. Yeah, I'm checking right now 574 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:00,960 actually. Yeah. 575 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,360 So that game, you can watch it. You. 576 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560 Yeah, it's only ESPN plus. You can watch it. 577 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,480 You can listen to it. I mean, just follow the women's 578 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,960 basketball social media accounts. 579 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,560 They're going to be, you know, plugging out a ton of pictures, 580 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360 a ton of photos, and then. Tickets are still on sale. 581 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Tickets are still on General. Admission, according to 582 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,240 Ticketmasters, $15. If you want to make a trip to 583 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Portland, There we go. That's just. 584 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Nothing. Yeah. 585 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Yeah, $15.00 for that game, Yeah. 586 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,680 But we're, I know we're getting ready because that's going to be 587 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,720 a very special day. So we'll have a couple articles. 588 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,800 You, Amanda, you'll you're going to have a couple. 589 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080 I'm going to have one or two, Possibly a. 590 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,560 Surprise 1 coming out before the game, on before the game on. 591 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,880 Really excited. So yeah, check and check that 592 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,160 stuff out. Just just stay on social media 593 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,720 and stay on stay online to see lots of. 594 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,800 Feel good stories coming out? Yeah, it's going to be an 595 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,520 awesome day. It's going to be a very eventful 596 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,160 day and a very significant day, obviously for Mackenzie, but 597 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,280 also for the program. So yeah, that's going to be 598 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,440 awesome. But Indiana actually will close 599 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,600 out the week with another game. That's that. 600 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,440 They'll play Thursday, but the final game of the week will be 601 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960 against Stetson on Sunday. That game is going to be here in 602 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Bloomington. That game is going to be at 2:00 603 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,680 PM Eastern Indiana will come back. 604 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 That'll be the first home game in a while. 605 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,440 That'll be the first game home game since Lipscomb and the 606 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Hoosiers will be back. Stenson Stetson is one and six. 607 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,000 I was looking at you know, their stuff yesterday and and you know 608 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,560 it's it'll be a tough matchup for them to be quite honest. 609 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,800 You know they haven't gotten off to the great start this season. 610 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,760 Their loan when kind of came against Iona 10 days ago on the 611 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,120 18th, but they've only met one time that was back in 1999 and 612 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Indiana got the 59 or I'm sorry 5991 to 43 victory. 613 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,280 I mean that game is just simply that game is before they take on 614 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,160 Rutgers for Big 10 play. So I guess if you're Terry, you 615 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,440 know you're that's the game before Big 10 or yeah, Big 10 616 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,640 play, you're going to come off a very emotional game in Maine. 617 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,360 I mean, what do you tell your team? 618 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,480 What do you tell them? Because I mean the next day or 619 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,480 not the next day, the next game that it's, I mean it gets real. 620 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,960 It's Big 10 play. Yeah, I think that is the you 621 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680 have to keep in mind, I guess for me at least, not so much 622 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,120 what you're going into, but what you're coming down from. 623 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840 I guess because you know you go you play Tennessee, you play 624 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,920 Princeton, you play Maine, those are three of the biggest non 625 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,120 conference games but the exception of Stanford, I think 626 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,400 those three are the next biggest ones for various reasons. 627 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,680 And so I think Stetson is a good kind of I don't want to say come 628 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,840 down game because that's that's kind of I don't I don't like the 629 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,840 the phrasing of that but it's it's like another regular game 630 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,280 and for the first time in a couple weeks and so it's going 631 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200 to be. What everybody expects, 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Indiana's going to win by a lot. They're probably going to get to 633 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,520 run their bench a lot. It's going to be a good way to 634 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,400 get. Not that they're going to need 635 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,520 more confidence, I think, going into Big 10 play, but you're 636 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,800 going to need a different kind of confidence because you know 637 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,480 they're going to be coming off of the high of of beating two 638 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040 now ranked teams and going up to Maine and having a really good 639 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,480 fun, emotional time. But you have to remember that 640 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200 you are still just playing basketball. 641 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,280 And at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who you 642 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,120 play. It matters how you play and if 643 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,920 you get the win or not. And so I think Stetson and even 644 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,560 Rutgers will be good reminders of that, that to just not not 645 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,960 maybe focus so much on the greater meaning of the game and 646 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,800 just focus on the 40 minutes that you're playing on the 647 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,800 court. That would be my kind of 648 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,360 approach is to just be like, look, it's another basketball 649 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,440 game, doesn't matter who it is. It'll be a good way to to make 650 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,280 sure that everybody remembers that. 651 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360 And I think that, I think that's pretty much it, honestly. 652 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Yeah. I mean, you said it Well, I 653 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,840 mean, for me, I think the approach that I would take is, 654 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,640 hey, because I didn't realize this before today that that 655 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,760 game, they're going to have six days between the Rutgers game, 656 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,360 which is, you know, that's almost a week. 657 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,400 That's a good amount of time. And you know, no matter how many 658 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520 practices they have, I mean there's nothing that compares 659 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,080 until compares to the actual game feel. 660 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:18,400 So I would use that Stetson or sense in game to sort of be 661 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,160 like, hey guys, look take these 40 minutes and just be as 662 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680 polished as you can be. Do things, play like you want to 663 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120 play, play like you're going to want to play against Rutgers. 664 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,040 You know what I mean? Because win or lose, there's 665 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520 going to be a one in one of those two columns in your 666 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,360 conference record, you know what I mean? 667 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,760 And and looks the Rutgers game is, is December 9th, December 668 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,880 9th. Their next game is not until the 669 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,920 last day of the calendar year on the 31st of December, which is 670 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,120 going to be against the Illinois the next. 671 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,000 Conference game, The next conference game. 672 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Thank you. That's going to clarify. 673 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,400 They don't have that much time off. 674 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,800 Yeah, exactly. They're going to, you know that 675 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,880 that's a significant chunk of time between you see one Big 10 676 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,760 opponent between the other. You know what I mean? 677 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,120 And. And Illinois is no joke. 678 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,480 Exactly. Yeah, Illinois is going to be a 679 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,360 very good team this year. But it it's just the the 680 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,560 importance, one thing I've really learned throughout these 681 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,960 last couple years as the importance of conference games. 682 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,040 Like obviously they're important. 683 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,520 Everybody knows that everybody that follows basketball is 684 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,760 important. But I think, I don't think 685 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,360 people really capture how important they truly are because 686 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,960 when you come into March, when you come into the tournament, 687 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,679 the Big 10 tournament, I mean those games are what really sets 688 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,960 you apart or really put you down, you know what I mean? 689 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,040 So even if you know you're playing just one game 690 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,239 essentially in the month of December, I mean you're playing 691 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,679 too but essentially just one and it's in the early first week and 692 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,000 a half of December. I mean look it it's it's very 693 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,679 important you got to you know you know you got to be ready and 694 00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:01,200 I think that's that's in game is, is, is you just got to use 695 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,440 it as sort of a means of hey let's get ready for for what's 696 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,120 coming because we got a very important game coming up. 697 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,640 We have you know we're still in the non conference part of our 698 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,280 season but we have one more or I'm sorry three more games, you 699 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,720 know non conference and then we get into the full you know into 700 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,200 the full non or full big 10 play thing. 701 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,920 But anyway, so Indiana that I kind of yeah I was kind of 702 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,000 spilling there at the end of a little bit. 703 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,080 So Indiana plays Maine on Thursday. 704 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,320 Their following game will be that Stenson Stetson game on 705 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,680 Sunday, but that rounds out their week and as well that 706 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,800 rounds out our episode. The Hoosiers will go up against 707 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Maine just like I mentioned, but that does it for our this 708 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,840 episode of Indiana Women's basketball. 709 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,080 A lot more stuff coming this week like I mentioned earlier. 710 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,440 So go read our stuff at Inside the Hall and follow us on 711 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520 Twitter, social media, all that good stuff. 712 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,120 Always appreciate, you know the support. 713 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Support student journalism as always. 714 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,280 But you know, it was a great week in Thanksgiving. 715 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,640 I mean, what? What's up? 716 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,480 I have to update the people on what I ate on Thanksgiving in 717 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,800 Florida. That's right. 718 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,040 To do that. And I didn't. 719 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,680 I was going to say I was going to text you. 720 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,520 I was like, tweet out a picture. I did not tweet out a picture. 721 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,240 I did. I sent you a picture and then my 722 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,680 whole family asked me what it was. 723 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,520 It was tacos. It was not Thanksgiving. 724 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,600 They were very, very good tacos. I will say I was really 725 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,120 impressed and I enjoyed them. It was also the first meal that 726 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,640 I I had eaten all day. But they were really good tacos. 727 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,240 It was not Thanksgiving food. So I was kind of disappointed. 728 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,680 I'll just maybe have a make up Thanksgiving at my house when I 729 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,400 go home. Mom, if you're listening, 730 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,320 please, please, please, please. Maybe at least like a little 731 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,840 bit. I don't know. 732 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960 But yeah, it was tacos. They were good. 733 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,600 I had a good time. I'm not going to lie. 734 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,160 When you texted me that picture, I was kind of shocked. 735 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,800 I was like, really? I was like, nobody got the idea, 736 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,680 whoever. Like the event, the event 737 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680 coordinators, I don't know who like what they're called or 738 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,000 whatever, but whoever sets up the Invitational, the 739 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,520 tournament, I can't believe somebody said, hey, maybe we 740 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,560 should just have a little Thanksgiving spread. 741 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,800 I mean it would have worked. I I can't imagine, could imagine 742 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,800 it would have been too difficult. 743 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000 But anyway, But yeah, next year, next year, next year, Wherever 744 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040 the Hoosiers are at during Thanksgiving break or during 745 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,440 Thanksgiving Day. But anyway, thank you very much 746 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,360 again for listening. Kevin Vera. 747 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,920 Amanda Foster, check out all our stuff on Inside Hall. 748 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,720 A lot of stuff coming to you for both men's, women's, anything 749 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,160 into Indiana basketball. So yeah, this has been another 750 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,800 episode for Crimson Cast, but we'll catch you next week for 751 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,560 another episode.