1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,560 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:22,440 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cascade 3 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,760 and Clavio joining you. It is Monday the 18th. 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,800 It's Ohio State week for Indiana, one of the biggest 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,120 games in the history of the sport for Indiana coming up on 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Saturday, a top five matchup in the Horseshoe as Indiana 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,480 attempts to silence the haters and put themselves in a position 8 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:48,440 where a College Football Playoff berth is an auto ironclad lock. 9 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,560 I would say it's it should be close to that already if people 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,560 are thinking straight. But we know how college football 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,120 is. We can't assume anything. 12 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,840 So anyway, we decided, and by the way, I mean me, who's going 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 to go ahead and jump on, do a live show for about 30-45 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,720 minutes, wanted to tackle some questions that people had out 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,600 there and get things kicked off on the right foot. 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,000 As you know, we got a lot to do this week. 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,400 We got guests coming up later on this week, we got preview 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,840 podcast, we got the whole shebang going on and excited to 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,960 talk to you all today. And we're going to try to keep 20 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,280 the content flowing throughout the course of the week if we 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,560 can. So I've got some questions that 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,480 are queued up, but if you've got some questions you want to head 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,720 over to YouTube channel, back home network YouTube channel, go 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,640 ahead and throw them into the comments there. 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,200 I can pull those up. I can address those directly. 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 And obviously I've got some earlier ones and if you're 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,800 listening after the fact, at least you're getting the benefit 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,400 of hearing the podcast. So you know, it's always not 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,760 lost. But if you're curious, if you 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,800 got questions or comments, you can always send them to the the 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Twitter account. We'll be able to tackle the next 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,200 time. Anyway, before we jump into this 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,840 real quick, just a reminder we're part of the back home 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,320 network here at Crimson Cast and we are brought to you by home 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,760 field apparel, our presenting sponsor and a friend of college 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,280 football everywhere, the good brand and college football, they 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,880 just they go together. I mean, what are you, what are 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,960 you going to say? What are you going to do? 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,320 I'm wearing home field right now. 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,400 We got the the Oval crew neck sweatshirt on at this point. 41 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:14,600 Gritty in the comments asking how many home field products 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,040 does Galen own? Galen owns a lot of home field 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,120 products. Galen buys home field products 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,480 for other people. I, I would say, I think 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,280 conservatively, I'm probably in the 8085 range of, I'm counting 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,440 everything like T-shirts, hoodies, crew necks, pullovers, 47 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:34,000 jackets, you know, the T-shirts I think make up the bulk of 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,480 that, but it's all kinds of T-shirts, regular T-shirts, 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,400 three quarter length T-shirts. It's a lot of home field. 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,120 You can be a connoisseur of home field as well. 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,080 If you go to homefieldapparel.com, follow 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,680 them on social media, use the code home 2-3 and get 15% off 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,640 your first order again, home 23. Let's, let's let's get home 54 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:56,800 field all over the country. I see them already every home 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,600 game, every away game, there's people wearing home field, not 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,400 just IU, but other schools as well. 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,480 Again, home field apparel.com proud sponsor, love the back 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,440 home network. Also, quick reminder folks, 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,840 we're on sub stack. 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There it is like I can't. 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,160 There we go that, believe it or not, that is actually from the 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,520 set of the old Cam Cameron show that was gifted to me about six 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,520 or seven years ago by a good friend of the program. 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:01,720 So we got some history here in Crimson Cast, Studio B, lots of 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Oval all over the place. And I always tell people like, 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,760 we won two national championships with the Oval, 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 just happened to be in soccer, which still matters, obviously. 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,120 Let's dive in and talk about some of the items that people 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,680 have been asking about. It's been a busy day on Twitter. 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,519 It's been a busy day in terms of the the discourse, I guess you 81 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:21,920 could call it, or the the engagement farming, the the 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,360 trolling that's going on. You know, we got Ryan Rosillo. 83 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,520 I decided to wade into the fray and, you know, Pooh Pooh 84 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,480 Indiana's schedule, whatever. I don't know, I want to kind of 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,440 pump the brakes on everybody a little bit. 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,160 There's a lot of of stuff going back and forth and and it's fun, 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,560 you know, and I just think it's important to remember a couple 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,360 of things. SEC fans on Twitter are not 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,160 going to argue with you in good faith. 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,080 And I'd also like to note that at this point, they are wish 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,360 casting. Now if the committee comes out 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,520 with their rankings this next day on Tuesday and switches 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,880 everything around and drops Indiana to like 11th or or 12th 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,240 in the rankings for no reason having not played, then I think 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,400 we got beef. But until then. 96 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,480 You know, what's hilarious to me is that most of the SEC 97 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,200 discourse, if those who haven't been following along on Twitter, 98 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,920 you're you're lucky. I would argue what we got is a 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,880 lot of SEC fans being like, yeah, Indiana's schedule sucks 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,400 and they haven't played any real teams. 101 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,840 And they'd go like, you know, four and six against an SEC 102 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,840 schedule and stuff like that. It's, it's the, it's the same 103 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,720 stuff that we've heard before. It's just been real loud. 104 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,280 And it's been interesting because the national media 105 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,120 started to pick up on it. And this is the one spot where I 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,880 do get a little concerned. I I I'm not worried about what 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,040 randos on Twitter say, but I do worry about the framing that's 108 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,120 starting to penetrate some of the national media that cover 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,760 this. You know, we've heard it 110 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,760 obviously from Heather Dennett, the CFP reporter. 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,160 We've heard it from Ryan Rosillo. 112 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,040 We've heard. It from Paul Finebaum, which you 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,280 would expect, but you know, the one thing that that does concern 114 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,200 me a little bit and we've seen it play out this way with other 115 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,120 schools in college football is you repeat a narrative enough 116 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,480 times and it starts to become the perceived reality. 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,920 And and the committee people are they're still human beings. 118 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:21,120 They are susceptible to those things. 119 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,680 And I'm not saying that the SEC people need to shut up. 120 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,280 They can say whatever they want. I do think that jumping back 121 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:29,960 into the fray and arguing a counterpoint because there's 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,480 several very good counterpoints with all of this schedule stuff 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,320 with Indiana is actually a logical thing and more people 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,040 should get involved in it. I'll be honest, and I've said 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,400 this on Twitter a couple of times. 126 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,840 I'm wondering where Tony Petiti is right now, the Big 10 127 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:44,840 commissioner, because we had Greg Sankey out there, you know, 128 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,120 doing what Greg Sankey normally does and what he should be 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,920 doing, which is pumping up his own conference. 130 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Big 10's got to get on this. Big 10 has a vested interest in 131 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,160 getting at least as many SEC, at least as many playoff teams as 132 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,000 the SEC does. And one of my arguments has been 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 I don't think that the committee is going to willingly put like 5 134 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,360 or 6 SEC teams in at the expense of they're only being like 3 Big 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,760 10 teams in. But I do start to worry about 136 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,880 the narrative being spun and repeated and repeated without 137 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,080 any counter. And I'm not seeing any counters 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,640 right now from people that matter. 139 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,240 So this is where the Big 10 commissioner really needs to 140 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,520 kind of wade into the fray and start defending his team, just 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,800 like I would have suggested that he would defend Penn State in a 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,960 similar circumstance. Like there's, there's nothing. 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,120 There's so many things about the SEC argument that are wrong. 144 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Primarily among them is that all of these teams that you know 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,240 have one good win or or maybe even 2 good wins that that 146 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,280 should somehow wipe out the losses. 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,440 That they've got. Ole Miss losing at home to 148 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Kentucky, Tennessee losing on the road at Arkansas. 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 You know, there there's just there's a a bunch of different 150 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,800 results that we've seen that not just they don't just Pierce the 151 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 bubble of the teams that are competing for the College 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Football Playoff spots, but it kind of Pierce the bubble of 153 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,920 this idea that the SEC is this all dominant conference that 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,560 everybody is just significantly worse than. 155 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,080 And so I'd like to see more coming from Big 10 related 156 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,040 sources pushing back on that. I get the feeling I'm going to 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,560 be waiting for a while. This is something the Big 10 has 158 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,240 not done well historically. So, you know, obviously that 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,280 just leaves Indiana needing to go in and win the game or at 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,000 least play very close. And we'll talk a little bit 161 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,760 about that as we move forward in this in this in this 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,400 conversation. But as Randy points out in the 163 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,440 comments, Indiana has broken college football discourse. 164 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,159 It's hilarious. And it really is funny to me. 165 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:42,240 It is funny that Indiana of all teams, has created this vortex. 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,760 I mean, and it's only mid November. 167 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,800 I mean, there's normally some sniping about what's going on in 168 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,640 the playoff, but this has gotten to a ridiculous level. 169 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,840 And so I, I do think that it's, it's interesting kind of 170 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,280 watching all of this playing out. 171 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,400 And obviously what really matters is what the committee is 172 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,440 saying and doing. And I still believe that we know 173 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,960 what we're looking at is a scenario where Indiana, even if 174 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,040 they lose the Ohio State game, is going to be fine there. 175 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,200 There's an interesting thing, and this was brought to my 176 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,280 attention by our friend Andy Witchery, who I think some of 177 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,440 you are are familiar with. Andy wrote for on three. 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,640 He wrote for IU Sports Media for many years when he was a 179 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,080 student, but he went through and looked at in the College 180 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Football Playoff ranking era. So, you know, basically from 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,080 2014 onward, if you look at all of the Power 5 or Power 4 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,360 conference teams during that time period, where did the 11 183 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,720 and one teams land in the midst of things? 184 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 And what's interesting is that, you know, in a four team 185 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,760 playoff, you had multiple 11 and one teams not make the 14 186 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,560 playoff. But if you go through and look 187 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,520 at the totality of the power five teams that finished eleven 188 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,440 and one, here's who they who they were and and where they 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,760 finished. Ohio State in 2016 finished 190 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,320 third in the poll. So they made it or in the the 191 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:09,040 standings in 2015, you had Ohio State finished 7th that year. 192 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,320 So they didn't make the four team, but Oklahoma at 11 and one 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,240 was 4, Alabama at 11 and one in 2017 was was 4th. 194 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Ohio State in 2022 was fourth. Baylor in 2014 was fifth. 195 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,600 Notre Dame in 2021 was fifth. TCU, as I mentioned in 2014 was 196 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,640 6th and then Ohio State in 2015 and 2023 at 11 and one was 7th. 197 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,160 So, you know, you can look at those and I think you can see 198 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,720 there's a precedent here where the committee, for whatever 199 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:45,680 criticisms they've had, they do respect 11 and one teams that 200 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,360 are, you know, in power conferences. 201 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,600 This isn't something they just sweep under the rug. 202 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,240 They're not, you know, we haven't seen situations like, 203 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,880 oh, I'm sorry, strength, the schedule wasn't good enough. 204 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,360 It's always been the number of wins versus the number of losses 205 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,320 and Indiana's put themselves in a really good position with that 206 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,960 as they move forward. So that's why I am not nervous. 207 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,080 It's why I'm not flipping out. Obviously I want to see Indiana 208 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,200 win this weekend and, and I think they've got a really good 209 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,640 chance of doing it. But I think it's important to 210 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,040 keep in mind that it's not the end all be all if they don't win 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,840 because historically the committee has not said, oh, 212 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,440 there's an 11 and one team, we're going to put them 13th or 213 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,600 12th or whatever the number is. That's just not how it's gone 214 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,840 over the course of the time that the College Football Playoff 215 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,040 committee has been in existence. So just something to keep in 216 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:38,200 mind as we dive in here. Some interesting question marks. 217 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,200 So like, let me just pick up on this a little bit, Tanner 218 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Etheridge asked. I would like to hear about 219 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Indiana's schedule and the angle that a two loss SEC team is 220 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200 undeniably worth more for the playoff or more worthy for the 221 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,360 playoff. It's an unexplored angle. 222 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Not enough people are talking about. 223 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Is a 30 point Big 10 win really worth more than a loss to UK, 224 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Arkansas or Vanderbilt? Answer is yes. 225 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,920 I mean, here's the thing, the the reality of the situation is 226 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,680 that most of these schedules and most of of what we're seeing in 227 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,040 college football right now are tremendously unbalanced. 228 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,440 You know, if you look at the, one of the reasons why the, the 229 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,200 SEC is in kind of this weird spot right now is they have a 230 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,320 bunch of teams that very easily could end up tied without ever 231 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,520 having played each other. Or, you know, you, you end up 232 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,880 with tiebreakers where everybody played each other once and one 233 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,920 loss to the other, who lost to the other, who lost to the 234 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,160 other. This is the product of having a 235 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,000 16 team league or an 18 team league and you only play a 12 236 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,480 game schedule and, and obviously only 9 conference games in the 237 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,400 big 10, only 8 conference games for the SEC. 238 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,520 And you know, so I think the the argument that, oh, we beat, you 239 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,760 know, so and so mid tier SEC team, hence that is better than 240 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,280 blowing out an opponent in the big 10. 241 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,880 It that's not really how win probabilities work. 242 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,480 It does matter to win games. And if you look at 243 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,120 statistically, if you added up all the games that Indiana has 244 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,600 won so far this year, all 11 think they have like a 5% chance 245 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,960 of actually winning all of those games. 246 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,280 And we see over and over again now you know, when when, when 247 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Ole Miss is at home dropping a game to a Kentucky team that's 248 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,600 only 46th in FPI. You know, when we've got SEC 249 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 teams like Mississippi State that are 69th in FPI that have 250 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:33,200 lost to Toledo, teams like that, you know, to me, a a lot of this 251 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,200 is kind of like what happens in college basketball where you'll 252 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,040 get. You know, scheduling that 253 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,240 happens in just a certain way where everybody's power rankings 254 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,680 just keep lifting everybody else in the conference up. 255 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,200 It's not that all those teams are good, it's that they 256 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,960 scheduled in a way so that the floor of their strength of 257 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,720 schedule collectively ends up being much higher. 258 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,480 The Missouri Valley did this for many years. 259 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 The Mountain West has started to do it with a lot of success in 260 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,440 basketball and we you can do it in football. 261 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,800 And the SEC has been smart enough about their scheduling 262 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,160 that this was how they elbowed a bunch of teams out in the four 263 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,440 team era. They're a little more exposed in 264 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,560 the 12 team era because you can't just put 6 SEC teams in 265 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:16,800 that. That's just not the way that it 266 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,840 worked. And you know, Randy brings up a 267 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,360 good point. You know, the I think the way 268 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,080 the committee raided Miami after their loss to Georgia Tech was 269 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,560 telling. They only dropped five spots. 270 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Or so that's true. And you know, right now, even if 271 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:37,040 Miami wasn't the auto bid in the ACC, they would still be in the 272 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,800 playoff because it, you know, if you look at their overall, the, 273 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,200 the ranking that they had in the CFP rankings, their 9th that 274 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,200 would still be in. And I look at Indiana and I'm 275 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,600 like, well, go down Miami schedule. 276 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,080 They've beaten nobody of note, and they lost a game to a 277 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,400 middling Georgia Tech team on the road. 278 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Penn State, who's 4th in the CFP, one spot ahead of Indiana, 279 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,640 really doesn't have a more impressive win than Indiana. 280 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,880 I mean, if you want to argue the USC went on the road, I guess 281 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,960 that's AUSC team that has not. Exactly, with the world on fire, 282 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,800 and I'll note is not in the top 25 of the CFP rankings, but 283 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 whatever. Penn State 8 and one, their one 284 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,560 loss was to Ohio State and somehow they're still ranked 285 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,160 ahead of Indiana. Now, I would argue that Indiana 286 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,120 losing at Ohio State, and I'm not saying that they will, but 287 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,880 if they were, why would that impact Indiana negatively if it 288 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,440 didn't impact Penn State negatively? 289 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,960 If Penn State has nothing else on their resume, that ends up 290 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,000 being kind of the argument. And when you go to the SEC 291 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,040 schools? You know, the, the thing to keep 292 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,640 in mind is that a lot of these SEC schools, again, they're 293 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,360 going to have at least one more loss. 294 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,440 One of them won't, you know, and I'm guessing it's probably going 295 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,080 to be Alabama. If I had to bet, I'd say 296 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Alabama. And you know, maybe it's Alabama 297 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,000 versus Georgia, or maybe it's Alabama versus Texas. 298 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,720 I'm not sure exactly how the tiebreakers work. 299 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Alabama, of course, has the tiebreaker over Georgia. 300 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,120 But you know, Texas could still lose. 301 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Tennessee could still lose, plausibly. 302 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Ole Miss could still lose. So Texas A&M could still 303 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,960 plausibly lose, although it's kind of an apples to apples 304 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,640 thing with Texas. So a lot of these arguments will 305 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,520 suss themselves out. But I think for Indiana looking 306 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,680 at it and again, going off of what Randy said, Miami only 307 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,000 dropping four or five spots after losing that Georgia Tech 308 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 game, I think bodes well for Indiana. 309 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,720 And if you'll note like the the CFP rankings last week, if you 310 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,520 just go. Down the All you do is look at 311 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,840 losses and wins. It went 10 and O 8 and 1/8 and 312 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,240 1/8 and 1:10 and O 9 and O 8 and one eight and one nine and one. 313 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,120 If you get down to 10th. To Alabama at 7:00 and 2:00, and 314 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,960 then it goes 7 and 2 for them, eight and two for Old miss, 315 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,840 seven and two for Georgia. And then you've got kind of the 316 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 lesser teams on the outside looking in, like Boise State and 317 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,680 SMU. Maybe that's the paradigm, maybe 318 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,560 it's the idea that well, you know, we're willing to drop A1 319 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,079 loss team down some, but we also look at other metrics like 320 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,640 strength of record, so. That's going to be an 321 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,760 interesting thing to keep an eye on with the rankings tomorrow to 322 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,920 see what all comes out. But that would be how I would 323 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,839 answer some of that questioning that Tanner had at the beginning 324 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,200 of the of the question. As we look through some of these 325 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,960 other questions and comments. Yeah, Trent noting 11 and one IU 326 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,200 still has a better resume then everyone in the SEC besides 327 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,120 maybe a 10 and two Georgia. I mean, you know, look, 328 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,280 ultimately it comes down to like how are you going to judge it? 329 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,960 Are you judging it by strength of schedule, strength of record? 330 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:37,600 Who have you beaten? What type of teams have you 331 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,560 beaten? Indiana, you know, they have 332 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,200 seven wins against power for conference opponents. 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Not a lot of teams in the SEC can say that. 334 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,520 Look it up. So that's ultimately what I 335 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,600 would say we need to keep in mind. 336 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,280 And you know, and as Tony points out here, I keep saying, the 337 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,760 question, who have they beat? My question in return is equally 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,200 as important. Who have they lost to? 339 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,720 They never have a good answer. Losses matter as well. 340 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,640 That's what I think is worth noting. 341 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,880 Like losses should matter. Losses have always mattered when 342 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,840 it comes to this stuff. But again, don't expect SEC fans 343 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,440 or SEC media to argue this stuff in any way other than 344 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,680 disingenuously. That's that's the essentially 345 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,320 the take home point with all of these things. 346 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,800 A lot of questions, not all of them had to do with football, 347 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,520 but I'm going to kind of stick, stick with some of these items 348 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,200 football wise. So, so John asked what in the 349 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,080 stats is causing a 12 point spread? 350 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,640 I think it's it might be actually 11 1/2 points, but what 351 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:40,160 is causing a 12 point spread in terms of of this Indiana, Ohio 352 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,840 State match up? It's a good question because you 353 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,280 know, the, the teams are actually more equal than you 354 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,840 might think in certain areas. And that is, you know, something 355 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,520 that a lot of people don't necessarily buy when you tell 356 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,480 them that. But when I look at the advanced 357 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,200 stats and, and I would advise everybody to tune in at the 358 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,680 like, we're going to do it Thursday. 359 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,600 I hope we're going to have Taylor Lehman back on. 360 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,800 We're going to do a bona fide preview podcast where we take 361 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,560 all this into account, but the big things that are contributing 362 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:17,080 to, I guess it is 3119 that was mentioned, a 12 point margin in 363 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,120 S&P Plus are essentially as follows. 364 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Ohio State is third in FPI, Indiana's 11th, Ohio State's 365 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,360 first in S&P Plus, Indiana's 11th. 366 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,320 If you look at offensive and defensive stats in in all of 367 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,640 those, I mean Ohio State's just better than Indiana across the 368 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,520 board statistically in all of these items. 369 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,480 So like in FEI, which is another power metric, which is an 370 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,120 opponent adjusted data that represents scoring advantage per 371 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,320 possession. Ohio State's first overall in 372 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,520 FEI, second in offense, third in defense. 373 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Indiana's ninth in FEI, third in offense, only 30th in defense, 374 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,160 although that has gotten better. You know, both of these teams 375 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 are pretty evenly matched. You know, Indiana is just like a 376 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,600 shade worse in certain areas. Indiana is better in offensive 377 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,160 pass success than Ohio State is in defending the pass. 378 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,760 But the same applies the other direction. 379 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,400 Ohio State's better passing success than Indiana is at 380 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,440 stopping it. Both teams are really good in. 381 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,160 You know, Indiana's defense is great at stopping line yards per 382 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,880 rush. Ohio State's great at forcing 383 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,040 them, and both Indiana's offense and Ohio State's defense aren't 384 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,560 particularly great in that category. 385 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,920 So when you break all of this down, Indiana's statistical 386 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,200 profile measures up really well against most teams. 387 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,360 Ohio State's just kind of the exemplar that you point to and 388 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,600 say, wow, that team is really good everywhere. 389 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,080 And that's where I would caution people a little bit about their 390 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,760 expectations. You know, Indiana is overmatched 391 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,440 physically and that's, I don't think that I'm not being 392 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,160 critical of Indiana, just the Ohio State's got a lot of five 393 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,480 stars, a lot of four stars. Indiana has neither of those 394 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,160 things. So just in raw physical power, 395 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,120 much like we saw against Michigan, Indiana's got a bit of 396 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,240 a disadvantage. And Ohio State on the whole has 397 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,960 been able to execute better, you know, in both offensively and 398 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,040 defensively. And I think really what it's 399 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,360 going to come down to to some degree is, you know, ES or 400 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,120 sorry, S&P Plus has Ohio State's defense as the top defense in 401 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:26,520 the country. And Indiana's offense, well, 402 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240 good, is only 15th in the country. 403 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,280 So can Indiana have a better offensive game than what Ohio 404 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,040 State is able to do defensively? And you just, again, you go down 405 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,160 the list and you just look at what Ohio State's done 406 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640 defensively. The only team they've allowed 407 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,360 more than 17 points to all season has been Oregon. 408 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,320 They let 32 points up there, but you know, their, their numbers 409 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,880 are impressive. 6.0 points, 14 points, 7 points, 7 points. 410 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:57,320 32171317 was Nebraska, 13 was Penn State. 411 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,920 Purdue was a shutout and Northwestern, they allowed seven 412 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,960 points. So to me, that's one of the keys 413 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,720 like how well can Indiana find ways to exploit whatever 414 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,080 weaknesses they can find in this Ohio State defense? 415 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Can they move the ball? If they can't, and we saw them 416 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,520 struggle to move the ball in the second-half against Michigan, 417 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,920 that's a real problem. But that's where Indiana's 418 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,840 defense really has to step up and keep Indiana's offense in 419 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,920 the game, again, like we saw against Michigan. 420 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,280 And that's where I do think some of the notes about Ohio State's 421 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,920 offense are important. Like Sam notes, the offensive 422 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,800 line for Ohio State is not that amazing. 423 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,120 And that's true. They've had injuries. 424 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,680 They've lost 2 left tackles so far this season. 425 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,120 Like it's been a struggle for them, you know, and, and 426 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,120 ultimately, and I was talking to Taylor about this earlier today, 427 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,360 if you can limit what Ohio State does in the running game, which 428 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:54,320 Nebraska did quite well and actually Penn State did it 429 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,640 pretty well also, you do take a lot off the table for that. 430 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,560 You know, if you look at what Ohio State has done in terms of 431 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,840 running the ball, they're averaging 5.25 yards per rush, 432 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,480 which is really, really good. They've rushed for 18138 yards 433 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:14,160 and 22 touchdowns. So if if Indiana is going to be 434 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,560 competitive in this game, a lot of it will come down to very 435 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,400 basics. But basics against really, 436 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,440 really good competition, you've got to move the ball, you've got 437 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,600 to score touchdowns. You've got to be able to move 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,800 the ball through the air quickly to give your own offensive line 439 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,680 a break. And then defensively, you just 440 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 got to gum up Ohio State. You know, the it's interesting 441 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,400 that S&P Plus is projecting. This is a 3119 game. 442 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000 I would actually say that it's probably going to be a lower 443 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,440 scoring game one way or the other. 444 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,640 And you know, I think whether or not Indiana wins or loses, the 445 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720 chances are that they're going to be able to grind some of Ohio 446 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,280 State's attack to a halt. It's just a matter of whether 447 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,120 Indiana's going to be able to pick it up on their own end. 448 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,360 And there are some advantages for Indiana, which we'll talk 449 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,480 about more with Taylor. But like Randy points out, Ohio 450 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,080 State likes to play man on the outside. 451 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,520 If only we had a passing game that could exploit one-on-one 452 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,640 coverage. I I mean, the nice thing is 453 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,920 Indiana's got a nice, a good stable of receivers. 454 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,720 It sounds like Miles Price is going to be back. 455 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Omar Cooper is clearly having, you know, the best season of his 456 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,000 young career. Elijah Serrat has struggled 457 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,880 lately, but is certainly a guy that you can throw the ball to. 458 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,360 You know, Keyshawn Williams has been a revelation here recently. 459 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:27,560 He's really become a really heavily targeted slot receiver. 460 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,720 And then Zach Horton most of the time is able to pull balls in 461 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,520 and and disrupt. But Indiana, they've lived so 462 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,600 much in that RPO approach. And what'll be interesting is 463 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,920 like how much does Ohio State pressure that versus how much do 464 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,320 they try to sit back? It's going to be a fascinating 465 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,440 chess match. And that's the kind of things I 466 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,920 want people to to keep in mind. That's that's ultimately where 467 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,560 this game is going to lie and when we'll just have to see what 468 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,760 happens with it all, but we'll talk more about it throughout 469 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,240 the course of the week. Obviously we have a a bunch of 470 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,360 other questions here that are, I think some of them we're going 471 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:06,080 to answer tomorrow on Bison Chat. 472 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520 So first of all, I want to give you a programming update on 473 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,960 that. Bison Chat will be live on the 474 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,160 back home network at 6:45 PM tomorrow. 475 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,400 Myself, Joe Crone and Emily Fox going to be recapping what 476 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,880 happened during the bye week. We'll have sound from Curt 477 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,160 Signetti's press conference that happened on Monday. 478 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,040 We probably won't have sound from player availability on 479 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,280 Tuesday. It's a little too quick of a 480 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,120 turn around, but we will then be doing our live watch of the CFP 481 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,320 reveal, which happens at 7, and talking through where Indiana 482 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,760 lands and what the implications are as we move ahead. 483 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,400 So a lot of your CFP questions and things like that will try to 484 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,600 tackle at that point. Let me add a couple of other 485 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,520 ones though. Darryl Frazier asked what would 486 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,680 FCS playoffs look like for Division One? 487 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,600 Is it a well that we're we're kind of getting there And I have 488 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,080 AI always felt like if you're going to expand to 12, you're 489 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,520 going to end up expanding to 16. You know, there's a lot of 490 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,400 inequities in this 12 team format, not the least of which 491 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:13,760 is you're staring down the barrel right now of three of the 492 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,160 power conference, 4 probably seated 1-2 and three. 493 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,440 And then the 4th power conference, the Big 12. 494 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,200 I mean, there's a chance they don't even make the field. 495 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,520 There's no auto bids for the power conferences. 496 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,240 It's just, you know, who's the highest ranked champion of of 497 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,120 each conference in the committee's eyes. 498 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,960 So what I think is going to be interesting to keep an eye on as 499 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,000 we move forward with the playoff is let's say Boise State ends up 500 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000 getting the four seed and you get a Miami team that's probably 501 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,240 overrated a bit as the three seed. 502 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,760 You're going to have really good at large teams that are waiting 503 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,560 there have to play an extra game and then we'll go play on a 504 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,200 neutral field against these conference champions. 505 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,840 And I'm not entirely convinced that the conference champions 506 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,080 are going to be the test that people think that they are. 507 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Some of them might be, but some of them will probably not. 508 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:13,040 So it's kind of like in the NFL where when you have a like on 509 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,440 the fourth seed, you know, is, is often times the divisional 510 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,160 champion who went like nine and eight, you know, had a really 511 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,560 poor season. They're hosting a playoff game 512 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200 against a wild card team that's won 11 or 12 games. 513 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,360 That's like that. That seems a little unfair. 514 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,240 But you know, we've always placed this premium on did you 515 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,920 win your conference? We used to place a premium on 516 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,000 did you win games? You know, that's, that's the 517 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,480 kind of thing that I, I think it's going to have to change. 518 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,880 So an FCS playoff, if you went to a 16 or even a 2014 format, I 519 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,280 mean, I, I think we're going to get to that pretty quickly 520 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,680 because everybody's going to be paranoid about being left out of 521 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 this thing. I, I don't think it's going to 522 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,280 stay at 1216 might be the right number. 523 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,920 And I think buys are kind of overrated as it is at this 524 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,040 point. Let's just make everybody play 525 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,960 the same number. A day of games would be fine 526 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,840 with me. The. 527 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,320 There was another question from Daryl. 528 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,320 Is there a reality where the SEC and the Big 10 break off from 529 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,280 the NC, the NCAA and do their own thing? 530 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Yeah, there's a reality where that exists right now. 531 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,880 I don't think it's worth it. And this is where this College 532 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,640 Football Playoff committee is going to be interesting because 533 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,520 I think the the the interesting thing about this is that both 534 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,640 both these conferences before the season started wanted to 535 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,960 demand for auto bids for their conferences, which ironic if 536 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,800 you're Indiana thinking about that now. 537 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,800 It's like, yeah, that'd be nice. Let's let's have that. 538 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840 But one of the things that they're going to be very 539 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,480 interested in is parody. Both conferences view themselves 540 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,680 as the superior conference. They might be begrudgingly 541 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,480 willing to admit that the other is an equal. 542 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,520 They wouldn't be willing to admit that the other was 543 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 superior. So if you think about it that 544 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,320 way, you can think about it from the standpoint of if the Big 10 545 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,960 gets snubbed and gets three teams in and the SEC gets 6, 546 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,040 they might be like, or five Big 10's like, OK, that's, that's 547 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,400 not right. We're this is not going to 548 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,600 happen again. And they start exploring like, 549 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360 well, you know, do we need the SEC? 550 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,680 And never underestimate tribalism and factionalism when 551 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,560 it comes to college football especially. 552 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160 There's a reason why all these conferences keep, you know, 553 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,880 realigning and and teams keep getting kicked out or bumped up. 554 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Everybody's out for themselves. And that that applies to the 555 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,960 conferences as much as it applies to the teams. 556 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,480 So we'll have to see with all of that. 557 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320 But I think it's an interesting thought process as far as what 558 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,280 might happen down the line. We had a bunch of questions 559 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,800 about Northwestern's new stadium. 560 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Luke Bolata asked reaction to Northwestern's new stadium and 561 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,320 what would be your dream updates to Memorial Stadium in the 562 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,360 future. We had another question about 563 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,120 from Teddy Bit Big Bucks. A bit random, but I'm curious 564 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,600 your thoughts on the new Ryan Field for Northwestern and what 565 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,800 implications think that'll have on college sports stadiums. 566 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,560 I mean, The thing is, I don't know. 567 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040 I don't know if it's going to have that many implications 568 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,360 because most of these college football stadiums are old and 569 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,480 have been added on to there. There are not a lot of new 570 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,000 stadiums, nor is there a lot of a desire to build a brand new 571 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840 football stadium. I mean basketball arenas are 572 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,200 freaking expensive. A football stadium is I mean 573 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,640 that's like that's a that's that's the GDP of like a micro 574 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880 state. That's a lot of money and 575 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,200 you're, I mean, you're going to get returns for that when you 576 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,960 could still upgrade the one that you've currently got. 577 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,880 Northwestern is kind of in a, a unique circumstance Like 578 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Northwestern, I think, you know, private school, they've got a 579 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640 limited footprint. They had a really old stadium. 580 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080 I, I did not think, I mean, I've been to Ryan Field a couple 581 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,640 times. It was probably the least 582 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,840 impressive stadium in the conference, I would say. 583 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,440 I mean, Memorial Stadium was that way for the longest time, 584 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,640 but Ryan Field was right up there. 585 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,400 Ryan Field was really old looking and I think Northwestern 586 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,120 is looking at this and saying, well, gosh, we have a lot of 587 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,520 money. We want to create a fan 588 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,040 experience that's going to be consistent, sustainable. 589 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,600 We want to have a situation where we don't have to go get 590 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,240 6070 thousand people to come watch our games because we're 591 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,760 not going to draw that many people. 592 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,080 And if we do, it's going to be mostly the opposition's fans. 593 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320 We saw that with Indiana, you know, almost taking over that 594 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400 little 12,000 seat stadium that they play in. 595 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320 So for them, it makes a lot of sense to say we're going to 596 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,160 build small, I think their stadiums like 35,000 or 597 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,400 something like that. We're going to put a bunch of 598 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360 amenities in it and around it. I think that's cool looking. 599 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,480 I don't think it's really a great solution for a lot of the 600 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,960 schools out there because it it doesn't really track with the 601 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,080 financial realities. And Northwestern again, in a 602 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,840 special spot because they are private and they have a 603 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,720 completely different financial experience than what your 604 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,880 average public school is going to be dealing with. 605 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,480 So that would be something I would keep in mind With all of 606 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 that. Let's see. 607 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,640 I wanted to get to a couple of of other questions here. 608 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,000 So Craig Davis asks who the hell should I be rooting for and 609 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,880 against in the coming weeks when it comes to helping? 610 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,800 I use chances of receiving a spot in the College Football 611 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Playoff. So if you look at the the best 612 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,080 odds right now and and where there are teams that have 613 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560 questionable odds to get into the College Football Playoff. 614 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,040 What you want to be rooting for is teams to lose more games than 615 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800 Indiana. Because it gets progressively 616 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,080 harder to argue that Indiana should not be in, but this two 617 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600 loss or three loss team should. So the teams in particular that 618 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,840 I would recommend rooting against are as follows. 619 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,280 And I'm going to kind of go from the bottom up, but we'll start 620 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,760 with Ole Miss. You really need to be rooting 621 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,080 for Florida to beat Ole Miss. I think that that's a key and I 622 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,000 think it's very possible. Ole Miss, you know, they yes, 623 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,520 they beat Georgia at home. They got to go to the swamp. 624 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Florida's playing much better. That is absolutely. 625 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,640 And we saw this with the LSU game. 626 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,040 That's absolutely a game that that Florida could win. 627 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,720 And and I think another loss for Ole Miss knocks them completely 628 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440 out of the picture. They're already on shaky ground 629 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,920 because, A, they lost at home to Kentucky and B, they can't make 630 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,080 the SEC title game, so they don't have a chance to pick up 631 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240 another big win. And a loss would basically leave 632 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520 them on the outside looking in. Like there's no way, in my 633 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,160 opinion, that they would have enough of a resume to get in 634 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,480 with three losses. So that would be where I would 635 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,760 start with your wish casting, you know, with Miami, SMU, 636 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,320 Clemson, I don't worry too much about that group. 637 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,280 I think that'll play itself out. So I, I really any of those 638 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,840 teams, I think you don't really need to worry about their games 639 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,360 as they move forward. Tennessee is an interesting one. 640 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,240 I think you absolutely need to be rooting for Vanderbilt to 641 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,720 beat Tennessee in a couple of weeks. 642 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,720 And that's again, that that's a game that Tennessee is favored 643 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,840 in, but it's a game that Vanderbilt could win and that's 644 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360 a rivalry game. Vanderbilt would love nothing 645 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,720 more than to get their seventh win or eighth win of the season, 646 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,560 depending how this game this week goes for them against 647 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680 Texas. Or maybe it's not Texas they're 648 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880 playing this week, but they they would love nothing more than to 649 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,880 ruin Tennessee's chance at getting into the College 650 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920 Football Playoff. And the game is in Nashville, so 651 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,719 that's one to look at. I think you got a root for both 652 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,719 Army and Southern Cal or USC as the locals call it against Notre 653 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,280 Dame because again, Notre Dame is a threat to Indiana where, 654 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280 you know, yes, Notre Dame has a worse loss, but they have a 655 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,920 better win. They did win at Texas A&M and 656 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,679 they have blown out teams the same way that Indiana has blown 657 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,360 out teams over the course of most of the season. 658 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,679 But another loss for the Irish, I don't see the argument to get 659 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,040 them in. That would be what I would say. 660 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,120 So those are those are the teams I think you should focus on. 661 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,440 Like I think Georgia is going to get in. 662 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,159 I think Texas, unless they stumble at A&M and then have to 663 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,120 play in the SEC title game and lose it, I don't see a route 664 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120 where Texas doesn't get in at this point, even though they're 665 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,719 probably don't deserve it. Penn State, you know, I do think 666 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,480 it would be interesting if Penn State lost to Minnesota, that 667 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,200 that game is coming up this week. 668 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,080 I could see that happening. That seems like the kind of game 669 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,520 that Penn State loses. But Minnesota's also very 670 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,480 mercurial, like, you know, they went out and they they beat, you 671 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,080 know, USC and they've beaten a couple of other teams and then 672 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,400 they turn around and they lose to Rutgers. 673 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,760 It's like what is going on? It's the typical PJ Fleck team. 674 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,960 But a loss for Penn State in that Minnesota game is we're 675 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,040 going to be really hard for them to come back on. 676 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,640 So those would be the games and the and the teams that I would 677 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,800 look at. The one other thing I'll say is 678 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:34,680 you really do want the Big 12 champ to be 12th at best in the 679 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,760 poll. And so that's where I think you 680 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,480 got to root for Kansas against Colorado. 681 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,320 I think you got to root for Arizona State against BYUI. 682 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,760 Think you just want to get both of those teams kind of knocked 683 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,480 down another peg. BYU is already pretty screwed. 684 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,960 This would screw them even more. So now you want to hand Colorado 685 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,880 a loss. And again, Big 12, great example 686 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,200 of a league that does not have everybody play everybody else. 687 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,480 And it's showing up in the lack of clear tiebreaker scenarios in 688 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,560 that conference. So that would be what I would 689 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,920 suggest at this point. But, you know, it's really a 690 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,040 week by week thing. We are starting to coalesce 691 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,400 around this idea. I think, though, that being a 692 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,640 one loss power conference team heading into this last part of 693 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880 the season when most of these teams are going to end up with 694 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,680 two losses or more, is a good place to be if you're Indiana 695 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,960 Pitt. Hoosier asks a question that's 696 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,360 near and dear to my heart. One of the reasons I love you 697 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,320 guys, meaning me and Scott, I guess, is that you've shared the 698 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,480 you. You have the shared experience 699 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,960 of long-suffering IU fans. Here's my issue right now. 700 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,120 How do I hold on to the wonder? I don't want to see an IU 701 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,160 Alabama College Football Playoff projection and not stare in 702 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,520 disbelief. But this sometimes happens. 703 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,360 Now help me hold on. So this is. 704 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,960 Why? I have been telling everybody 705 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,080 that I know enjoy the hell out of this season. 706 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,440 Like do everything you can to soak up every minute of every 707 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,120 game, every minute of every tailgate, every minute of every, 708 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,600 you know, post game celebration like we had coming up or coming 709 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,040 out of the, the, the tunnel, you know, after the Michigan game, 710 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560 soak all that in. And the reason I say that is 711 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160 it's never going to feel quite like this again. 712 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,680 That doesn't mean it's not going to be great. 713 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,960 You know, and I have, I am so fired up that Kurt Zignetti is 714 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,640 going to be here, that hopefully his staff sticks around, that 715 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,600 he's going to be able to build this program in the proper way. 716 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,800 I, I couldn't have more trust in a guy based upon what he's 717 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,720 already demonstrated. But you have to understand, 718 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,240 like, you only get to arrive once. 719 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,960 Once you've arrived, you've arrived and then it wears off. 720 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,520 You know, I mean, Indiana, people forget like they made the 721 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,160 Rose Bowl in 67. Everybody's excited. 722 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,720 That Indiana football team was still pretty good the next 723 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,160 couple of years. They were ranked on a couple of 724 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,680 occasions. They didn't have a successful 725 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,120 seasons, but the the afterglow with that lasted a little while 726 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680 and then it kind of descended back into unfortunateness. 727 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,960 You know, being able to celebrate this Indiana season 728 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,720 thoroughly is I think the best thing you can do for yourself 729 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,040 because if you don't, if you're like, I'm going to, I'm going to 730 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,760 hold back. I'm going to wait to see when 731 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,160 you jump in next year. It's just not going to feel the 732 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,160 same. The the best analogy, and I 733 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,240 can't take credit for this one. This has been pointed out by a 734 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,240 couple of people, but think about for those of you who are 735 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:33,080 IU basketball fans, think about the difference in the feeling 736 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,120 between the 2011 2012 team and the 20/12/2013 team. 20/11/2012 737 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,760 was a team that was underrated. A lot of press didn't even 738 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,080 predict them to make the tournament. 739 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,720 I remember I predicted that they were going to get an eighth seed 740 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:47,840 and people were like, you're crazy. 741 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960 They're too far away. And I'm like, we they're, 742 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,520 they're actually more talented than this guys. 743 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,160 I, I think they'll be fine. You know, the watch shot happens 744 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 and you know, there were other great moments in that season. 745 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,520 The win versus Notre Dame and Indianapolis, the win down in 746 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,720 Evansville, the win North Carolina State, the the Ohio 747 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,640 State win over break, the Michigan State win over break. 748 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,600 And then you know, there's that little bit of a low. 749 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,280 But that season was such a joyride because Indiana was 750 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,440 achieving things they hadn't achieved in a long time. 751 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,560 It was a likeable group of players. 752 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,600 The whole thing was just a good vibe. 20/12/2013 was objectively 753 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880 a more talented team. It's a better team. 754 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,320 It's a team that was picked number one. 755 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,240 They were on the cover of Sports Illustrated, but there was a 756 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,600 tension around that team. They were expected to be good. 757 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,840 It wasn't quite as fun. And it doesn't mean that it 758 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,200 wasn't a great season to watch. And there was some tremendous 759 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,800 moments from that. But I do think it's important to 760 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,360 just remember, like, it can just be a season and suddenly your 761 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,080 expectations are different. So when Pitt Hoosier asks about 762 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,880 holding on to the wonder, this is where this season's memories, 763 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,280 I think, are going to be so powerful. 764 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,320 And look, you don't have to become a jaded, you know, self 765 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,520 important, entitled college football fan like so many of the 766 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,480 people we're seeing engaging with us on Twitter from the SEC. 767 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,040 You can just enjoy being good. That's perfectly allowed. 768 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,240 But that wonder that you're getting when Indiana's popping 769 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,080 up is the seven in the 710 game versus Alabama. 770 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,120 That's the kind of thing that you'll probably grow out of 771 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,040 pretty quickly, which is wild to think about. 772 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,120 But that's generally how these things go. 773 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,680 Couple other quick items for you before we wrap up. 774 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,640 We're we're getting close to the end of things. 775 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440 Hoosier review asks Storm the field after beating Purdue. 776 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,480 No, absolutely not. That's that's a routine win. 777 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,240 That should be viewed as a routine win. 778 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,440 I think there's better ways to demonstrate your joy and your 779 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520 support for the team. I'd love it if the fans got to 780 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,920 go on the field after the Purdue game. 781 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,360 I think that'd be awesome, especially with the players, you 782 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,240 know, always coming over and celebrating with the students 783 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,040 section. It'd be awesome to go down on 784 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,520 the field and kind of experience that with them. 785 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,960 But don't tear the goal posts down. 786 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,520 I guess you didn't actually say tear the goal posts down, but 787 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,840 when I see storm the field, that's what my interpretation of 788 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,640 that is. But maybe not storm the field, 789 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,520 but it'd be great to let the fans out on the field that they 790 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,160 won't do it. But it would be cool to see. 791 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,880 Hoosier review also asks Galen, do you have go to IU gear that 792 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,440 you plan on wearing into the shoe? 793 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,360 Have you and Scott been superstitious this year? 794 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,080 Have you been mixing it up? I've been mixing it up. 795 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,600 I've worn a bunch of different IU stuff, all home field. 796 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,520 Of course, you know, I've had the red script IU hoodie that's 797 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,280 been really handy. I've, I've worn the, the, the 798 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,240 kind of corso ish looking sweater that, that they put out 799 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,640 a couple of years ago. I, I've, I've rotated quite a 800 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,040 bit and I've been happy I've done that. 801 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,960 Now I haven't been like obsessive about not repeating, 802 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,880 you know, I, I just, my old thing is I want to be 803 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,280 comfortable. I want to be warm. 804 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,640 I want to be able to exhibit my fandom. 805 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,160 So I don't have a very ornate dress code when it comes to 806 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,080 going to IU games. I also, you know, I have to 807 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,400 tailgate before most of them. So I have to wear things that I 808 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,200 can move around in the cooking zone in more effectively. 809 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,720 So just you know, normal jeans, T-shirt combo and then if you're 810 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,720 if it's colder, I'll put a sweatshirt on. 811 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,280 That all seems to work out pretty well. 812 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,000 I haven't decided what I'm going to wear for the shoe yet this 813 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,760 week, but we'll see. Anyway, wrapping things up. 814 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,640 There we go. Jamie has the right idea. 815 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,680 Storm the field when we went in Columbus. 816 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840 I like that. Let's let's keep that energy. 817 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,880 We're going to go to wrap this one up. 818 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,840 I appreciate every jumping on. We have 45 minutes here on this 819 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,440 podcast. We're going to have a lot more. 820 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,160 We've got guests from Ohio State Land joining us a couple of 821 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,680 different times this week. Actually. 822 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,240 We'll obviously have Taylor Lehman hopefully on later on 823 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:46,560 this week to talk through things. 824 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,840 Might have a couple of other guests. 825 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,160 We've got Bison chat tomorrow at 6:45. 826 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,160 Joe Cronin, Emily Fox going to be joining me on that. 827 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,000 So just stay tuned throughout the course of the week. 828 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,400 We'll have plenty of content as we get you ready for Ohio State 829 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,440 versus Indiana. So folks, keep fighting the good 830 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,680 fight on social media. Don't don't let those people 831 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360 tell you anything other than what you know to the truth to 832 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,560 be, which is that Indiana is going to win in Columbus on 833 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,000 Saturday and getting the College Football Playoff. 834 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,200 Anyway, for all you folks, thank you for joining me. 835 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640 I appreciate it. I'm Galen Clavio for VAC home 836 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,280 network. We will catch you folks. 837 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,560 On the flip side, bring back the Bison, stay never daunted. 838 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,600 So on everybody.