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you're listening to the back 
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field, apparel 
Scott Jared thing what ball when

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you downloaded that theme music 
Eric 14 years ago, that we'd 

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still be using it? 
That was like there's no bad 

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ideas in a brainstorm. 
Hey, here's an idea for a song 

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and then smash cut to bitches 
imprinted in my mind, that gate 

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that that the thief song so we 
will talk about it. 

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They it's like a cult following 
among the followers and 

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listeners it's someone described
it as a banger once and it's 

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like the origin of it. 
It's a royalty free podcast 

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theme which you downloaded? 
Yes. 

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From. 
There's a royalty Free. 

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Like it was, it was an indie and
it was at you. 

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It was yes, it was an IU 
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And the problem is a Tunes. 
I can't. 

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I cannot like I can't doesn't 
exist anymore. 

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I can't go find it. 
I want to know who made it. 

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They are welcome on this show 
anytime we've, we've tried to 

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track down who the original 
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Then I remember this. 
The the song is called fully 

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charged. 
I know that because I've got the

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original MP3 file that you sent 
me, but we the, the Website. 

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Because member I, you had that 
whole remember that awful era. 

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When I use Big Ten Network, add,
was that awful podcast sad, you 

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know, podcasts are 
unpredictable. 

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Like, I mean, like someone, wow,
like there was, there were some 

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decisions made in that marketing
meeting, as far as like that 

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being the ad that they put out. 
But there was a site that held a

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bunch of these things and we 
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guy who wrote the podcasts. 
Theme. 

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And I feel terrible about it 
because I'd like to, I'd like to

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dab him up on the show. 
But yeah, it's amazing that that

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that's the one thing that's 
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hackers couldn't take it down 
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It's which that's an inside 
joke, folks, but we got taken 

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down twice by Egyptian hackers 
in the early stages of the show.

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So it's it's a thing that we 
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I'd love to buy that guy a meal 
somewhere and just thank him for

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all of what he's done for us. 
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What he's doing like he could be
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maybe like the new Thursday 
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like he made it's like we could 
be getting better but you would 

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get even better bangers like 
fully charged to Electric 

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Boogaloo. 
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It's it's, I can only imagine 
what the extended like EDM remix

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of that sounds like we've 
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where there was a point, you 
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all right? 
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This will do and what we'll find
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didn't and we're now at the 
point where it can't be changed 

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like this is that is just our 
theme song. 

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Like that is what we come into. 
Yeah, it's so look there's any 

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way will you wanted to give 
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Give some give some well thanks.
Thanks for joining everybody 

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that. 
But that's crazy cast talking 

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about our music. 
We're here doing what we do 

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know, we're here to talk about 
IU football, Indiana taking on 

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Western Kentucky this weekend. 
And before we get to that, just 

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a reminder that IU is being 
covered by Crimson, cast and 

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Crimson cast as part of the back
home network in the back home 

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network is brought to you by 
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go for the softest and finest. 
College sports apparel, plus 

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some pro sports apparel and 
we're getting into hoodie 

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season. 
We're getting into a crewneck 

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season. 
We're not quite there yet. 

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Although Saturday morning season
yet, you love the clothes that 

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go with it. 
I do. 

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That's true. 
I am. 

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It's perverse. 
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We had a question actually from 
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they wrote this in I want to 
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question since from Daddy 
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Does Crimson fit cast, in fact, 
fear the oval hashtag? 

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And the answer is no, I am a 
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my eye. 
You room that I'm sitting in 

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right now, doing this podcast. 
There's an oval over there on 

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the opposite wall and I have my 
wife, just texted me, she's 

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listening in all caps. 
Love the oval. 

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I have an oval t-shirt, I have 
an oval crew neck. 

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Why do I have those things 
Scott? 

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Because you love the oval. 
No, because home-field apparel 

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brought the oval back. 
That's why I have those things. 

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It's not because this the oval 
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Scott's generation those of us 
who were there in that narrow 

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band at IU between like 1997 and
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Some of us love the oval, some 
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I personally love the oval. 
I think it's a great alternate. 

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It's actually we are old enough 
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appropriately retro logo. 
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It's like those. 
It's like those Art Deco, things

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that home field. 
Also cells in the eye you 

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collection from the 50s, that 
look like Looney Tunes, things. 

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It's like, you know what? 
We're we got something going 

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right here. 
This is nice. 

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And what's cool about everything
is Scott's door opens behind him

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in his audio, though. 
The dogs waffles waffles is 

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joined my, the golden retrievers
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this, you I think You still have
it may be home. 

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Field needs to make the helmet 
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Me the helmet head that I had in
college you and I wore them 

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City. 
Indiana, Ohio State game. 

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When I caught a Snickers from 
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I thought for sure we were going
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We were down. 53 23, I think it 
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Yeah, it was a soft helmet head.
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giveaways of a university ever, 
but it had the oval somewhere in

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one of my many moves I lost it 
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regrets, like, on my deathbed, I
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one, Where did that go? 
Yeah, I know. 

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Well, look and a lot of have 
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I still do. 
The kids were playing with it 

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the other day so I don't know 
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know it's around somewhere and 
to be careful. 

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That's like that's, I mean it 
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Galen house. 
I feel like you know, it's one 

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of the things that's in helmet 
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I know which one you're going 
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the four things that get saved. 
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A big fan of the oval and you 
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exclusively at home field 
apparel. 

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So go downfield apparel and 
check out the oval. 

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You can use the code home H ome.
If it's your first time at home 

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field apparel and get 15% off 
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how could you turn that down? 
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So by the oval wear it proudly, 
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with you who are like 19 years 
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don't know the half of it and 
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that thing. 
That's awesome. 

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There will be a game were they 
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retro jersey. 
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speaking of like money off and 
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I do have to Bone to pick with 
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Oh no, we are in, I listened to 
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I'm excited to be on a preview. 
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listened to it is. 
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preview where you did some 
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One of the questions was about, 
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hundred dollars for n IL for 
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very Cavalier lead you, where it
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I Don't want to be you know 
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not Arizona, Kansas under FBI 
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You just very casually like, you
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I'll just talk at the last 
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that in there. 
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when Galen starts be Crimson 
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please keep that in mind, I had 
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just pocketing one or two 
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buy all his oval gear in the 
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They're in Bloomington nothing. 
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dollar especially with six 
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which we just hit today. 
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while. 
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The that refinancing your fine 
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Well, you know bring bring them 
after me at this point. 

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Well let's let's see what they 
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earlier like ABS keep the actual
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I got you in C, double I, come 
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Anyway, let's talk about this. 
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everything else go and just be 
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one thing he said in the 
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So, so in, we It would 
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I'm a booster clearly. 
So we had a lot of questions 

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We're not gonna be able to get 
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playing against Western 
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They be Western Kentucky last 
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It was a close game. 
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general. 
Indiana has had success against 

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Western Kentucky, but was 
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Indiana a really good game and 
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looking at it and you're like, I
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Kentucky. 
It's certainly going to be a 

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little bit difficult. 
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what to think of teams after two
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when you look at these two 
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I mean, Indiana's had the more 
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Western Kentucky so far. 
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they're not FBS 38 to 27 and 
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who's very bad. 
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FPS, got blown. 
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them 4917, which certainly was 
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Kentucky team. 
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Who we know is a very good 
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win. 
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Illinois and week one, they play
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I guess we could say for Indiana
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Winning that game. 
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You know, the maybe a 
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but still a win. 
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let me know. 
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Indiana and say, well they beat 
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awful, conditions rain and all 
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On the other hand, you know, you
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And, you know, B, the fact that 
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to particularly good teams, 
they've looked really pretty 

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good. 
Statistically in those two games

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and right now, Western Kentucky 
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Under the PFF college rankings, 
ranked 68th in the country which

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is not great, but you know, it's
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Oklahoma state is 68 during some
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You want to guess what Indiana's
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into this game? 
I'm Scott we in the 70s 80s. 

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That's what I would have guessed
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ranked 111th in PFF College 
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that's not the 70s or 80s, know 
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When you look at the ratings 
and, you know, PFF, this is Pro 

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Football, Focus and then they're
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by any means. 
But you, they, they go through 

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and they grade how teams do in 
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So everything from overall to 
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offense. 
How the pass blocking look, the 

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Run blocking looked the the 
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aspects of the defense and the 
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I think for Indiana right now is
they really looked pretty subpar

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and pass blocking against 
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They and on a 0 to 100 scale, 
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against Illinois, which is real 
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better in run blocking now, they
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Idaho. 
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very good team and defensively 
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their, their secondary is not 
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well they played in coverage. 
They're tackling has been subpar

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so far and so you come into this
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Kentucky and you say to 
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a program with a pulse and it's 
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afraid of anybody. 
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games where Indiana comes in and
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they're going to just come right
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against an inferior Talent set 
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can do. 
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sure having watched I you for 
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they can and can't do. 
I don't know if you've got a 

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clearer sense of it than I do at
this point. 

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No, I mean this game scares me 
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up points. 
I mean to eat, like you said 

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they are Conan's this so far, 
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mean they put up points against 
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even put up points against 
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You know? 
So are and what also is kind of,

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their offense based on what they
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this year. 
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have seven interceptions this 
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I mean, they take the ball away 
as well. 

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That's a big part of what 
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I think we can play well on 
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up 21 to 28 points. 
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this offense is capable of 
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eight points against a team that
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Just because we kind of did a 
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mirrors against Illinois. 
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inside a hoe and you know we've 
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line. 
The line is look bad. 

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We have not shown an ability to 
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Presents at all so far this 
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provide the defense with what it
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Yeah, I mean it's a big question
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offense against Illinois and 
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Illinois. 
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that is certainly capable from a
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You look at the way. 
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the season PFF College. 
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I mean, they are 2 and 1 on the 
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country and the PFF grades, and 
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have their rankings or, or their
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seventy nine point four 73.5 
against Indiana and seventy nine

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point four. 
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struggled a little bit but 
overall Illinois has played 

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pretty well. 
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Virginia. 
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three points in that game, so, 
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with Indiana because it's like, 
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for beating Illinois. 
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against Illinois, was that 
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really good, or was that because
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that because of some other or 
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Indiana was bad. 
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And this is where it's 
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became as bad as it became in 
that Idaho game because we 

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really didn't get a clear sample
size from Indiana outside of 

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Illinois. 
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they can do. 
Granted against a subpar It but 

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you need that. 
I feel like to try to figure out

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exactly what to expect out of 
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still don't know. 
But I am concerned like you are 

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because I don't think Western 
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particularly be scared by 
Indiana and what they bring to 

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the table. 
They know they almost beat 

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Indiana last year and that I 
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Western Kentucky lost a lot. 
But you could say Indiana lost a

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lot to now, maybe maybe with 
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by subtraction but we still have
yet to really see Indiana the 

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dominant in any phase of any 
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third quarter of Idaho. 
I will I'm just going to take a 

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quick step back toward this game
which is you know, beginning of 

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the year, we talked about, you 
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a bowl is a pretty, you know, 
it's a far bridge for this team,

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although I thought more about 
what you said. 

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And in the preview that, you 
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the ill. 
If we believe that, you know 

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what the team is telling us that
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that it's like, well, that a 
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like your, this is a team that, 
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eight games like that, this 
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that uses go to a bowl. 
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or even if we want to get to 
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So you're playing for a bowl, 
you know? 

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And I think everyone could agree
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that's at least. 
Just you know, acceptable enough

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of the season, I think if you 
only get 24 wins as a tough year

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but if you want to get to five 
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win this game but you just have 
to win this game. 

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There's just there's not a or 
you're going to have to do 

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something very out of the, out 
of the ordinary. 

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What your expect yet, you got to
win, you know, Penn State or 

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Michigan State or something that
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happen this year. 
So, you know, this is where the 

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rubber hits the road. 
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how they're going to get the 
offense to do it. 

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This is a game that you have to 
win because if you don't your 

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path to five or six wins this 
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tough. 
It's tough when you have a game.

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You know, when Idaho game those 
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confidence Builder and it left 
with people wet and kind of 

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confused and frustrated after a 
half and then if you, if you do 

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lose this game, it's like I 
think a lot of people think, 

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well, there's really not a path 
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even September. 
You know, 19th, we had a gram 

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asked, does the Western Kentucky
game define whether or not it? 

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Deanna will have a good or bad 
rest of the season. 

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I'll be coming to see. 
Nope, got a phone call there is 

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Grandpa. 
Didn't know, it was calling. 

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It really want to know. 
It was not that was not get 

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cramps like oh, here's our 
burden. 

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What's going on? 
Yeah, but no, it was not g know 

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the the an interesting question 
I'm going to say it doesn't 

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define whether or not I use 
going to have a good or bad rest

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of the season because it's 
possible. 

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I you wins and still has a bad. 
Rest of the season, but fair, 

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but I you if they lose, I think 
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season. 
So, it's like a bad Choose Your 

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Own Adventure novel. 
You know where there's, you 

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know, I don't know, you either 
die immediately or you could die

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in two more days. 
Right? 

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Exactly. 
Yes, you know. 

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So I look at this and I say if 
Indiana beats Western Kentucky, 

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there's a lot of things positive
with that, they're at that 

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point. 
They're three, you know? 

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And as much as we have learned 
now, The Tom Allen era that this

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is I you Football under Tom 
Allen is as much a Vibe as it is

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a progression of of outcomes 
that I you at 3 and 0. 

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I think suddenly starts to get 
high on their own Supply so to 

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speak. 
Like they really start to 

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believe. 
We are good, we have 3 R 3 and 

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0, we've beaten Illinois, we've 
beaten Western Kentucky. 

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These are not pushover teams and
and I think that that actually 

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has a really positive impact on 
Indiana. 

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And there their whole 
conceptualization of themselves 

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as a football team, if they 
lose, I think a lot of that goes

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away. 
Now you could beat Western 

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Kentucky and then get, you know,
slaughtered in nippert stadium 

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the following week and then lose
on the road at Nebraska, and 

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it's all out the window anyway. 
But I think losing against 

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Western Kentucky suddenly those 
two Road games, you lose those 

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two. 
And now you're scaring two and 

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three in the face with Michigan 
coming into town. 

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So it's a pivotal game, but it's
not. 

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It's It's not going to be a 
guarantor of positivity. 

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I think would be the way that I 
would answer that question. 

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Yeah, some other questions of 
note. 

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So Keith asks in years past 
we've had a number of good 

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losses and near misses, should 
we now be happy with 

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frustrating? 
Second half wins. 

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Is this what progress looks like
the answer is, yes, that is 

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exactly what progress looks 
like. 

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I'd love to say that progress. 
You know was was Thirty Point 

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wins. 
We're never in question where 

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you're just essentially just 
drinking beer in the in the 

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second half and thinking about 
like how the third-string wide 

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receivers doing but that's not 
how it works. 

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Like you you go from losing 
games in the end to slightly 

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winning games and that's really 
all that matters that the 

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winning. 
The games is ultimately the big 

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thing that matters. 
And so you know, if Indiana is 

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in the fort in a tussle in the 
fourth quarter against Western 

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Kentucky and they pull it out by
Three or four points, you know 

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what Scott, that's progress, as 
far as I'm concerned, even 

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though they, you know, I mean, 
yes, they struggle a little bit 

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on the road last year. 
Any win for Indiana at this? 

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Point up until the point they 
get to six wins is absolute 

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gravy and that's something that 
I know that fans don't want to 

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hear, but that's absolutely the 
setup at this point, that's 

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where Indiana has to be, 
especially building back from a 

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too intense. 
He's completely agree. 

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I mean, win is a win and I would
say Yes, I was kind of, you 

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know, dismissive of that in the 
immediate aftermath of the Idaho

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game, but I think where that 
comes from is, you know, for me,

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I was looking at the Idaho game 
to help answer some questions 

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that I had from the Illinois 
game. 

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And those questions were not 
answered and that's where you 

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kind of left being like, I don't
know where the other winds are 

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going to come from until these 
questions are answered, but to 

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your point, a win is a win. 
So, if we get, if we beat 

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Western Kentucky, like you said 
by three but we Still have you 

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know 67 yards in rushing? 
I will come on this post game 

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and be like I'm very concerned 
about our rushing, but that's a 

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win like that's great. 
We're three winds down. 

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Let's still continue to find a 
way to win without getting, you 

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know, any kind of rushing game. 
Let's see if we can do it. 

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So I think you can kind of 
discombobulated the to but yeah,

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a win is a win, is a win. 
I will say I'm on college 

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football stats, just looking at 
college football stats and it 

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has the attendance of both the 
Illinois and the Idaho game. 

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I know that Indiana releases 
attendance figures and all that,

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but it has the attendance of the
Idaho game as higher, the 

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Illinois game of 46,000 785. 
That's a lot of people who are 

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there in the rain that I well 
see on any of the TV cameras, I 

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think that that might have been 
tickets sold to be fair, as 

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opposed to actual butts in 
seats. 

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I know, I know, I know, but and 
I would believe that because 

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this was an easier game for 
people to attend than the Friday

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prior to labor day, but it's a 
fair point. 

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It's a fair point. 
This is why are you have to be a

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little careful about attendance 
figures in general across all 

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sports. 
It's just kind of how it works. 

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Some other questions that we had
daddy. 

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Hoosier XD asks, I've 
encountered several people 

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voicing concerns about safety 
play. 

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Thus far, do you share those 
concerns? 

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So this is something we've heard
a lot about it's like, well, the

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safeties haven't looked that 
great. 

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Yes. 
I use been intercepting the ball

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but they've The back we were we 
were somewhat impressed with the

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way the back seven played 
against Illinois and maybe we 

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shouldn't have been going back 
and watching that game 

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afterwards and getting a sense 
of how it actually went down a 

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lot of Bend but don't break even
though they deny that in the 

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00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,400
press conference afterwards they
didn't look great against Idaho.

447
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Are you concerned about any 
aspects of the defense at this 

448
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,300
point? 
Maybe a little more. 

449
00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:07,900
Generally Scott I'm concerned 
that we're not getting 

450
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:10,500
takeaways. 
Then we played Idaho and they 

451
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:13,000
had more takeaways than we did. 
We currently have one 

452
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
interception throughout the 
year. 

453
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,300
Being that is what made 2020 
such a unique year was that team

454
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:24,700
had 17 interceptions throughout 
That season and they didn't even

455
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:27,800
play a full schedule. 
That was definitely an outlier 

456
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,900
season but that really changed a
lot of it. 

457
00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,900
So for me, that's been the 
concern with the defense is 

458
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:38,900
where you know to your point 
Allen's teams do well. 

459
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,900
They're giant, you know, Vibe it
and stuff. 

460
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:44,100
But they've also done really 
well with the defense has been 

461
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,400
very opportunistic. 
Taking the ball away, flipping 

462
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,900
the field. 
We saw a good amount of that in 

463
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:53,400
2019 like you know, seven 
interceptions, you know, 

464
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:57,300
recovering 12 fumbles. 
But 2020 was just like it just 

465
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:59,700
took that off to a whole new 
level and that's what really 

466
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,300
allowed that team to thrive. 
And so the bend but don't break 

467
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:07,700
defense has been good it's been 
good to see them, not breaking 

468
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,300
but for this Team to be dynamic 
especially when we still have 

469
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:13,600
the struggles on offense, but I 
think are going to be there 

470
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800
especially once you get to the 
Big 10 based online play, you're

471
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,700
going to need your defense to 
make some place for you're going

472
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,300
to your defense to. 
Not only get you off the field, 

473
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,100
but flip the field and have a 
night, you know, have a pick six

474
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:28,600
or a pick six or a pick that you
can get 35 yards on and flip the

475
00:25:28,608 --> 00:25:30,000
field. 
So that's been the part with the

476
00:25:30,008 --> 00:25:31,900
defense has been concerning to 
me. 

477
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Yeah I know. 
I mean the big question mark for

478
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,600
me is look I mean I think 
there's going to be some Growing

479
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Pains As the defense re adapts, 
the Tom Allen and re adapts to 

480
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,800
the system that they want to 
use. 

481
00:25:44,808 --> 00:25:50,600
You know, I'm not the big thing 
I'm concerned about out of the 

482
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Idaho game is the team's 
inability to handle receivers 

483
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,800
coming out of the backfield and 
that is a problem. 

484
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,600
I think we get this Western 
Kentucky teen. 

485
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,100
I will see if that actually 
manifest. 

486
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,500
Maybe I you makes a bunch of 
changes, you know. 

487
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:06,500
I think there's a real 
possibility that they were just 

488
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,700
trying to show his little as 
possible. 

489
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,800
Isabel in that Idaho game and 
they ended up in a situation 

490
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,500
where it they had to show a 
little more than they wanted to,

491
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:16,900
but they'll make some changes 
afterwards. 

492
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:22,500
I think it's entirely possible, 
but I don't want to make any 

493
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:27,200
Final determinations on the 
defense until we get closer to 

494
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200
October. 
I think did I need two more 

495
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,300
games to really see what the 
defense can do against better 

496
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,000
competition. 
So I'm not going to get panicky 

497
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,100
about it yet, but I think it's 
worth keeping an eye on. 

498
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:40,800
Absolutely. 
Some other questions that I 

499
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,900
wanted to get to IU artifacts 
asks, is this on mcculloh the 

500
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:49,900
most important key to success? 
Not only for I use defense. 

501
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,800
But the entire are you football 
squad? 

502
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,200
No. 
Because I think Connor basil, 

503
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,500
lack and to a slightly lesser 
extent. 

504
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,800
The offensive line are the most 
important aspects of success for

505
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,600
this IU football program 
overall, because I think if 

506
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,600
they're not working, the team's 
not doing well. 

507
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:11,900
But I do think McCullough, Allah
has clearly been like visibly a 

508
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:15,700
standout on defense so far at a 
position that I you desperately 

509
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,600
needed a standout athletically. 
I saw someone the other day, 

510
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:21,900
they tweeted something like, 
well, Tom Allen needs to get 

511
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:26,000
more guys like this on mcculloh,
like, like they grow on trees 

512
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,400
and we've just, we've neglected 
to pick the fruit off the tree 

513
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,000
as we walk to the football 
conference. 

514
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,400
I got doesn't way it works. 
Okay. 

515
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,700
Let me the fact that decide 
McCullough is here in the first 

516
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:38,900
place is a very very specific 
set of circumstances. 

517
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,300
From stances had to occur for 
him to be an Indiana uniform. 

518
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:44,700
And to some degree, they get his
kind of Lucky. 

519
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:48,100
He's still in an Indiana uniform
given what happened with all of 

520
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,800
those circumstances over the 
course of the last 12 months? 

521
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,100
But look, he certainly, I think 
a really, really good player and

522
00:27:56,100 --> 00:28:00,200
if fact, if I you can keep him, 
I don't know if they can but you

523
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,900
know, he could end up being one 
of the best talents on defense 

524
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,000
that Indiana has ever had. 
And the fact that he's showing 

525
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,200
his much ease as a Freshman, I 
think really highlights how few 

526
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200
of those types of players 
athletically, Indiana tends to 

527
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,700
get on defense. 
You know, they've had athletic 

528
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,400
Marvel's like, antwaan, Randle, 
l or or, you know, Tevin 

529
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,500
Coleman. 
I mean, there's there's guys 

530
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,500
like that that have stood out on
offense, very rarely, I mean, 

531
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,700
you get a, you know, Mike 
McFadden was a really excellent 

532
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:32,300
defensive player but he stood 
out for his effort and his 

533
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,300
intelligence not so much his 
physical gifts, which, which 

534
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:38,900
McCullough clearly has when two 
things. 

535
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,400
On that first off, the if 
anybody's saying like why don't 

536
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,500
we get more of them? 
And as if like other 

537
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,700
McCullough's were just saying, 
hey, go ahead and take the 

538
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,800
Alabam offer like we don't, we 
don't need you. 

539
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Like, you can go ahead and Levi,
are you? 

540
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,800
The second thing is like this 
is, you know, it's great to see 

541
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,900
but this is also the slow 
maturity of a program because 

542
00:28:56,908 --> 00:29:01,400
like you said, you know, Randall
L comes to Indiana, part of the 

543
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,800
reason he came to Indiana is 
that we were willing to play him

544
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
at quarterback. 
Has he gone to Ohio State or 

545
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,000
Michigan? 
He would have been a safety or 

546
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,900
something else like that. 
This is most of the time and 

547
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,900
Indiana's history when you get 
just an athletic stud. 

548
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:15,900
It's like, well, we got to put 
you in an offensive skill 

549
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,300
position because we need, we 
need you in it. 

550
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,400
That's where we need the most 
need. 

551
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000
And so, to be able to say we're 
actually going, you know, it's a

552
00:29:24,008 --> 00:29:27,400
luxury to put somebody like that
on the defensive side and it's 

553
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,700
your point like Mike McFadden 
was awesome, but I also didn't 

554
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,400
see him running like a wide 
receiver route, and I know so 

555
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:38,200
and it's able to do is I get 
five stars that are athletes and

556
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,000
just throw them in. 
You know, linebacker and safety 

557
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,700
rules. 
Hello. 

558
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:42,300
You don't have to be a great 
athlete to be a great 

559
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:44,300
linebacker. 
I mean, it's helpful but I mean 

560
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:45,600
look Mike McFadden made the 
Giants. 

561
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,400
It's not a criticism of McFadden
but it's like for a freshman at 

562
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
because McFadden was not that 
great in his first two years and

563
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,300
people forget that like he took 
a lot of criticism for missing 

564
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:56,800
tackles for not being a right 
position. 

565
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,500
He grew into that role in his 
last two years and really became

566
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:06,100
what he is now but McCullough 
just kind of has it out of the 

567
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,300
box and that's really exciting 
to see Let's see. 

568
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:13,000
Some other questions to get to 
Hoopa ROTC asks, thoughts on why

569
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400
I use schedule, Western 
Kentucky, and Cincinnati home 

570
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600
and away. 
And should I you continue to 

571
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,000
schedule those types of 
opponents? 

572
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,800
Good question because these are 
two pretty good teams. 

573
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,300
These are teams that are, you 
know, Western Kentucky goes to 

574
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:29,800
bowls. 
Cincinnati, you know, I think 

575
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,400
this is the first of all, there 
is a historical precedent to 

576
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,800
scheduling Cincinnati. 
We played them in the 90s. 

577
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,000
I think we played them in the 
80s to and they are. 

578
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,000
I think I think of the eyes of 
IU, they don't they and I don't 

579
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,600
have any, I've never talked to 
anybody about this. 

580
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,900
I don't know if it's absolutely 
the truth, but they really don't

581
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:52,400
want to go full Minnesota where 
they just schedule the absolute 

582
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,800
dregs of division 1 and pit 
themselves against him. 

583
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,900
It for easy wins in the 
non-conference. 

584
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,600
Now the or three. 
Is he wins now? 

585
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,900
I guess now they should I think 
if there's a program that needs 

586
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:08,900
that it's Indiana. 
But I for whether if you go back

587
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:10,900
and look, historically at 
Indiana's, non-conference 

588
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:13,900
opponents like all the way back 
to the early 80s their 

589
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,500
scheduling really, really good 
like will go for non-conference 

590
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:22,000
opponents, really good like 
mid-level programs, whether it's

591
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Navy, you know, obviously I you 
struggled with in the early 

592
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,500
2010's Missouri, who Ooh, keeps 
popping up on the schedule. 

593
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,000
You know, North Carolina was on 
the schedule, North Carolina 

594
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,800
state was on the schedule, 
they've really resisted 

595
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:40,300
scheduling, like, Georgia, 
Southern who had. 

596
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:41,800
That's a bad example, I guess 
now. 

597
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,600
But, you know, those sorts of 
teams Troy State, like teams 

598
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,500
that are absolutely on the 
fringes of FBS and it's probably

599
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,700
something I, you should consider
because look at the end of the 

600
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:54,900
day in a nine-game conference 
season. 

601
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,500
If you're Looks like they may 
catch the positive end of a wave

602
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,100
with Louisville because they 
scheduled that. 

603
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:05,000
As I wire, we scheduling an ACC 
team in the non-conference but 

604
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,500
you know they they may get a 
positive end there but there's 

605
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:12,700
always the chance in this day 
and age that you're going to get

606
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,700
a Western Kentucky or Cincinnati
is going to put together a 

607
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,100
couple good recruiting classes 
be really tough to play and then

608
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:20,000
all of a sudden it's like oops 
what do we do now? 

609
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,700
You know you replace last year's
Cincinnati game with a team 

610
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:28,100
that's like slightly down the 
Totem pole and Indiana. 

611
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,300
Winds that maybe it's a 
completely different season. 

612
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:36,000
So I understand the philosophy, 
I don't always agree with it but

613
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,300
it's one of those things that 
Indiana's done as long as I can 

614
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,000
remember. 
They rarely, even if they dip 

615
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,800
into the Mac, they're generally 
dipping into like the middle and

616
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,000
upper reaches of the Mac. 
They're not scheduling Eastern 

617
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,100
Michigan. 
Yeah. 

618
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,400
I mean, the the counter that I 
would say is that this is also, 

619
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,300
you're catching Western, you 
know, Kentucky, it kind of a 

620
00:32:55,308 --> 00:33:00,000
time where they get just a you 
Absurd coach player transfer. 

621
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600
We beat him last year to yeah, 
you know. 

622
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,900
And as we talked about last 
year, when they scheduled at 

623
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:07,200
Cincinnati series, I definitely 
did not think that they were 

624
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,000
expecting Cincinnati to be a 
college playoff team like they 

625
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,400
thought it might be good but not
like, you know, top five in the 

626
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,800
country good and all that said, 
you know, we almost beat them. 

627
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,900
It's like so if maybe they're, 
you know, a top 25 team, maybe 

628
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,900
we win that game and you know, 
if they don't have five NFL 

629
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:29,500
prospects and You know top-tier 
NFL quarterback on their roster 

630
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,900
maybe we do win that game. 
So I do think some of this is 

631
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,500
you know we're getting some bad 
luck. 

632
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:42,000
I would I would push back a 
little bit on, you know, us 

633
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000
trying to schedule those bad 
teams. 

634
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,900
Just because historically, when 
we've had, like, I think we did 

635
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,800
have like Coppin State come in 
once or we've had some of those 

636
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,100
lower-level teams. 
Normally the crowds are not as 

637
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:59,000
good for those and it does kind 
of as a programmer kind of like 

638
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,600
we treat them kind of like a 
nothing game. 

639
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,800
When really, we're not the kind 
of a poem, we're not a team that

640
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,600
has the ability to do that but 
we treat it like that and so I 

641
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,199
can see from Athletics. 
Apartment, trying to build 

642
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,000
crowds and fan bases. 
At least games, like Kentucky 

643
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,600
everything. 
Sorry, Cincinnati, you're going 

644
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,500
to fill the stadium. 
It may not be the best for your 

645
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,199
long-term projections to making 
a bowl. 

646
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,300
But at least, you know, it's 
probably a dollars and cents 

647
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,300
decision to. 
But I think some of this is just

648
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:25,199
bad luck in that the last couple
of years, especially Cincinnati,

649
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,400
we're just hitting teams on a 
Cincinnati's in like a 50-year 

650
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,800
historic high like last year. 
Could have been maybe the 

651
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,699
absolute Apex, you did not want 
to play them and that's when we 

652
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:35,600
play them. 
Yeah, I know. 

653
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,699
I know there's, that's a really 
good point and Personally, if 

654
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:43,600
there's a team that's going to 
get the bad end of the stick, in

655
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,900
terms of scheduling a team on a 
historic upswing. 

656
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:51,199
It's it's or, you know, it's the
opposite. 

657
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,500
It's like, well, you get Yukon 
and like with their first or 

658
00:34:53,507 --> 00:34:58,400
second year as an FBS team. 
And it happens to be a game 

659
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,400
where your coaches out because 
of getting cancer treatment, you

660
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,100
know? 
I mean, it's just like, yeah, I 

661
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:07,600
you it doesn't matter to some 
degree it and I use tends to 

662
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:11,200
find a way to lose those games, 
a lot of different ways, and 

663
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,100
it's very frustrating. 
So anyway, a couple of the 

664
00:35:14,107 --> 00:35:15,700
things, we always go to the Penn
State one. 

665
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,800
It's like, you know, Penn 
State's on historic sanctions 

666
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,600
there playing no players and yet
it's like when we play them and 

667
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,200
note, no knock on Xander edema. 
But it's like we have Saturday -

668
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,800
our quarterback like they can't 
score like. 

669
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,300
Anybody know where didn't get 
score either didn't Danny 

670
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,600
Cameron have to play in that 
game too. 

671
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:33,900
Yeah that was yeah that was that
was no, it's a great point. 

672
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,800
It's there's what year consult 
fell just be healthy for that 

673
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,600
one game like I'd Just beat Penn
State. 

674
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,300
Once I remember what you know, 
they did be big didn't beat them

675
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:43,000
once. 
They did beat them once in that 

676
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,300
stretch but that was it. 
Yes. 

677
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,200
So God. 
Anyway, a couple other things so

678
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,600
quick detour off the game Jared 
from assembly call asks if 

679
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,000
someone from another country who
doesn't understand college 

680
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,800
sports, ask you to make sense of
why Nebraska fired its football 

681
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200
coach weeks before, they could 
have paid him millions of 

682
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,200
dollars less, what would you try
to or how would you try to 

683
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,200
explain it to them? 
So this is an interesting 

684
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,300
question. 
Because for those of you who 

685
00:36:08,308 --> 00:36:14,600
don't know, Scott Frost is 
buyout dropped by half in three 

686
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,200
weeks basically like the Sunday.
After the Indiana game, they 

687
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,300
could have fired him. 
And only I think dropped what 

688
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,700
seven and a half million dollars
right? 

689
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,100
Or five bad forgive with the 
actual number was it was half of

690
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,700
what they ever are, paying him 
now, having fired him, Scott, 

691
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:33,200
I'm interested in your answer to
this like, like, well, how would

692
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,700
you explain that to somebody? 
I actually don't think it's as 

693
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:41,400
hard to explain to a soccer fan 
than it would be to explain to. 

694
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,800
Somebody doesn't understand 
Sports at all. 

695
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,700
But like, do you have an 
explanation for this that you 

696
00:36:44,707 --> 00:36:48,500
would give to people? 
Yeah, I love the the alien, you 

697
00:36:48,508 --> 00:36:52,900
know, explaining to aliens, I 
think that, you know what, makes

698
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,000
us a little bit. 
Easier is the meteorites deal 

699
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,300
that was just signed like, three
weeks ago and this is something.

700
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,800
I'm not to bring it to the NBA 
that Bill Simmons has been 

701
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,800
joking. 
Like you know, people don't 

702
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,500
fully get that like NBA players 
are going to start making 70, 80

703
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,900
million dollars a year and 
therefore year, yeah, it's like 

704
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:10,900
just like look at the TV 
package. 

705
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:13,500
That will be signed in a couple 
of years and it's like some 

706
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,200
Indiana fans here like DeAndre 
like 0 to 30 million a year. 

707
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,500
It's like yes. 
Like in four years that's going 

708
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,300
to be a massive steel because 
you're going to be paying mapper

709
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,200
and 60 million just to get 
weight. 

710
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Like there will be a player on 
the Pacers and five years, 

711
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,000
making 75 million a year, 
whether it's But so you have a 

712
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:34,700
huge windfall of money coming. 
So if you're a Nebraska, three 

713
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:39,100
and a half million dollars is 
it's not immaterial but it kind 

714
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:43,800
of is and if your Nebraska the 
heat that you're getting is the 

715
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,500
athletic department for just 
continuing to lose games in poor

716
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,100
fashion. 
It's just you. 

717
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,700
I think that I would have to do 
a deep dive of like, what's it? 

718
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,300
Like to live in Lincoln Nebraska
every single week. 

719
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,400
We can be the one in charge of 
the entire Nebraska football 

720
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,800
program and how important that 
is and how much you can't go to 

721
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,500
your local, you know, Piggly, 
Wiggly or Meyer or Wigwam or 

722
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:09,400
whatever. 
They have their you know, and 

723
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,400
everyone's yelling at you. 
Everyone's telling you you're 

724
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400
stupid. 
Like there comes a point where 

725
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,200
like if you could just take 
three and a half million to get 

726
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,400
everybody off your back, you 
probably would, especially when 

727
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:19,800
money is really no object as an 
athletic director. 

728
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200
And so, I think, I think the 
money is a little bit overblown 

729
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:25,500
and I think that well, pretty 
obvious. 

730
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,800
He's just not a good coach. 
Well, and it's and There's two 

731
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,200
things here, one restraint, 
because he said it was simple. 

732
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,000
I feel like I made it way. 
More complex. 

733
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,900
So what's the simple answer? 
No, no, no. 

734
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:38,000
Actually, I think you actually 
hit upon the simple answer, 

735
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,100
which is two things. 
Hey, it's not Nebraska's money. 

736
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Nebraska did not write the 
check. 

737
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,200
Yeah, a booster wrote the check.
Just like a booster wrote the 

738
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,100
check to fire Archie Miller like
that wasn't Indiana's money. 

739
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:56,000
Now Indiana, you know it's so 
funny because like the 

740
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
meteorites deal is huge. 
If they are getting at Ton of 

741
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,200
money but when it comes time to 
fire, it's like, hey boosters. 

742
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:04,100
Yeah, things are pretty tight 
over here in Nebraska. 

743
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,700
Like I don't listen to the 80 
million a year, we get from the 

744
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:08,800
Big Ten Network, that's that's 
not that's that. 

745
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Well, the play stuff, it's 
getting really tight. 

746
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,700
I was able to find 50 bucks. 
Yeah. 

747
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:15,700
But if you guys could come up 
with over 3.5 million or three 

748
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:19,900
point four nine five I mean the 
other stuff he has its it my 

749
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:23,000
venmo account I think Lincoln 
money it's like it's coming and 

750
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,900
you know if they ever a time you
guys take Zell. 

751
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:27,700
Do you guys take zeldo 2? 
Yeah. 

752
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,200
Inflation. 
And, you know, thanks to you, 

753
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,100
let's go Brandon's all, it's all
very confusing, but if you can 

754
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,500
just the other three and a half 
million, we really would just 

755
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,800
need that money. 
Yeah. 

756
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,300
They always go to their boosters
matter how much money they're 

757
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:41,000
getting. 
Anyway. 

758
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,000
Sorry. 
Now it's like, it's like, it's 

759
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,700
like proteins asking taxpayers 
to pay for stadiums. 

760
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:48,300
It's the same thing, right. 
It's like you got you, did you 

761
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:50,000
make a lot of money off that 
Medium? 

762
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,300
Amber you doing know? 
You gotta. 

763
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:55,000
We gotta have the 900 million 
dollars from the taxpayers. 

764
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,700
Is no way we could possibly. 
Yeah, I know. 

765
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:58,900
So that's that. 
It's part of it. 

766
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:01,700
But I also think he had on the 
other aspect of this which is 

767
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:04,900
that it's that it's you could 
kind of asked the same question 

768
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:08,500
but Indiana firing Archie Miller
like one more year of Archie 

769
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,500
Miller with that a would that 
have really been that much of a 

770
00:40:11,508 --> 00:40:13,600
difference. 
What he, you know. 

771
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,600
But I think the reason is You 
you have to do is to fold. 

772
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,300
You have to a, you brought the 
guy back and you didn't have to,

773
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:25,500
you could have fired him in the 
offseason and yes, the buyout 

774
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:28,800
dropped. 
But realistically speaking, you 

775
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,000
probably should have just fired 
him in the offseason. 

776
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,300
So that wasn't really money that
you were saving. 

777
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,000
It was money. 
That probably shouldn't have 

778
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
been there in the first place. 
Like, you just needed to get rid

779
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,100
of the guy you made a mistake. 
If your travel birds, like 

780
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:41,600
everybody's been praising trail 
of Albert's. 

781
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Who's the athletic director at 
Nebraska for making the right 

782
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,700
decisions like should have The 
guy in the offseason like under,

783
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:52,500
what equation did you think that
this was suddenly going to work 

784
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,300
after not working for the last 
four years? 

785
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,200
Like what planet were you on 
other than Planet loyalty which 

786
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,400
is a stupid planet to be on if 
you're an athletic director? 

787
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
So I think that's part of it, I 
think it's a way for Trev 

788
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Alberts to save face a little 
bit for screwing this up further

789
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,900
by not, just chopping the head 
off over in the summer or in the

790
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,900
spring rather than trying to 
make this work again. 

791
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,400
Well, not just say face, it's 
that, you know, being there's 

792
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,300
only so many athletic director 
jobs at Power five schools and 

793
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:26,700
if you don't fire Scott, Frost 
at some point you're going to 

794
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,500
get fired like this is, you 
know, like the Colts at the end 

795
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:30,700
of last year. 
It's like, all right, well, 

796
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:32,600
either Frank Reich or Carson 
Wentz is going. 

797
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,400
So like who's it? 
Going to be caused. 

798
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,600
By the way, cuz Ur say, is not 
going to fire himself and like, 

799
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,500
that's what I mean if here is 
like, yeah, not to delve into 

800
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:42,100
NFL talk, but that might have 
been one of those words 

801
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,100
shouldn't have been either or, 
you know, it's like how it fares

802
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,600
what. 
But but it's You can set it up 

803
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600
where it's like if you're the 
athletic director and that's 

804
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:52,700
kind of where Scott Dolson is 
like, you know, to the to the 

805
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:55,700
Archie Miller thing is a car. 
If you don't fire Archie this 

806
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:57,900
year, it's very possible. 
The next year you both go. 

807
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Like so there is a you know 
there comes a point where you 

808
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,500
fire offensive coordinator and 
football so you use the head 

809
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:06,300
coach. 
Don't get fired like everyone 

810
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:08,000
below you. 
You can fire them in different 

811
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,700
orders so that you don't get 
fired. 

812
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,500
I think it's also something that
happens here too. 

813
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:14,200
All right, couple other things 
here real quick before we get to

814
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,100
the big question. 
So So, Patrick asked what our 

815
00:42:19,107 --> 00:42:22,100
take was on the defense, which 
kind of gave that already and he

816
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,900
mentions as well. 
On a positive note, been 

817
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,000
impressed with the linebacking 
and defensive unit, defensive 

818
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,300
end unit with McCullough has 
particularly looking like a 

819
00:42:30,308 --> 00:42:32,800
star. 
I agree with all of that st. 

820
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Tom Allen asks macro question. 
How does I use performance so 

821
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,900
far, match up with your 
expectations, going into the 

822
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:43,400
season? 
Scott, I'm going to let you 

823
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,200
answer that one first. 
They line up. 

824
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Well, and I thought we were 
gonna win three games. 

825
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,200
Maybe for, and I still kind of 
think I still think that I was 

826
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:55,600
pleasantly surprised. 
They were able to put together a

827
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,600
good drive at the end to beat 
Illinois, but they are me. 

828
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,000
I'm bullish. 
Yeah, you're showing a bowl 

829
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,600
there. 
Somebody like Jim Crane. 

830
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,300
That's a bison, man. 
When he's talking about your 

831
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,400
shirt, it's like, Jim Cramer 
with, like, the stuff of bulls. 

832
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,400
I need to get the soundboard 
sell sell sell. 

833
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:15,600
Yes, it's pretty much what I 
expected and I was Acting three 

834
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,300
to four wins. 
And I try to be pessimistic, but

835
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:20,000
they kind of exceeding my 
expectations right now. 

836
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,100
There's still a lot of question 
marks with this team, with the 

837
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,500
ability for, like I said, the 
offense, the running and all 

838
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,100
that. 
So it's, you know, I'm 

839
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,900
pleasantly surprised and I 
didn't have super high 

840
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:32,400
expectations. 
Yeah, I'm it's about in line 

841
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,800
right now. 
I mean, I predicted, they were 

842
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,200
going to beat Illinois and 
Idaho, and they've done that. 

843
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,300
They haven't like been dominant 
in either game by any stretch of

844
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,000
the imagination there. 
That, if anything they've under 

845
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,000
I performed a little bit because
I know it was wet with that 

846
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Idaho game, but give me a break.
I mean, only when that game by 

847
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:55,400
13 points, it's, that's it. 
That's disturbing. 

848
00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:00,300
And so, I'd say so far, it's 
kind of in line with what I 

849
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:02,400
expected. 
But I also think Indiana just, 

850
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:05,600
there's a lot of improvement 
that they need to show, and I'm 

851
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,400
hearing a lot of. 
There's a lot of talk coming out

852
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,100
of these press conferences, the 
Tom Allen, and the players and 

853
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:15,500
coaches are given, and I just 
don't know if it matches Up with

854
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:17,400
reality. 
So we'll have to see. 

855
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,400
It's one of those deals where I 
am not at this point. 

856
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Committed to the idea that this 
is a better team than I thought.

857
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,800
And I predicted them to be five 
and seven. 

858
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,400
I think they could still be 
worse than that. 

859
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:34,200
So I'm ambivalent right now 
about what I've seen and I hope 

860
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
that I become a less. 
Ambivalent, as we move forward, 

861
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:41,900
we had another question. 
This was from csw, Hoosier, our 

862
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:44,600
old buddy from up, north in the 
state? 

863
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,800
If Anna somehow makes it to bowl
eligibility. 

864
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,400
What are the three things that 
must happen in order for that to

865
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,900
even be remotely possible? 
So I'll say this the office have

866
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:55,100
to be Western Kentucky 11. 
We have a little of that. 

867
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:57,700
Yes I honestly think they need 
to win two other. 

868
00:44:57,700 --> 00:45:01,600
Next three they got to win. 
Yeah the Western Kentucky game 

869
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:07,500
or or and or at Cincinnati and 
or at Nebraska they got to come 

870
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:11,700
out of this stretch for in one 
and then they you know so that's

871
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,000
but that's I don't think what 
he's really asking I think 

872
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,800
Clearly. 
They have to figure out a way to

873
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,900
pass block against an FBS 
opponent, because they did not 

874
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:23,100
show an ability to do that at 
all against Illinois. 

875
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,300
We're gonna have to wait until 
this Western Kentucky game. 

876
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:27,500
And even then honestly, if they 
pass block against Western 

877
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:31,000
Kentucky, I'm not sure if that's
a that's that's probably the 

878
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,500
worst defensive line you're 
going to face the rest of the 

879
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:35,700
season. 
So it's like, if you can't block

880
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:39,400
against Western Kentucky, I 
really fear for what happens 

881
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,800
against Cincinnati and Nebraska 
let alone the rest of the 

882
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,200
schedule. 
And I look I think the third 

883
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,100
thing is the defense Has got to 
get more if I think of his one. 

884
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:52,500
If there's one thing I've been 
disappointed in is that I mean 

885
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:55,800
the defense was good against 
Illinois it to some degree, one 

886
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,800
them, the game. 
But if this team is going to get

887
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,700
to six wins, the defense has to 
be a lot more dominant than they

888
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:06,200
have been through the first two 
games, and that might not sound 

889
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:12,000
fair, but they've let both teams
score, you know, enough points 

890
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:13,900
the both teams have scored in 
the 20s. 

891
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:17,600
I don't think that's Be good 
enough like when you let an FCS 

892
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,900
team score in the 20s that's a 
sign of problems. 

893
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:25,000
If you're a defense as far as 
I'm concerned and so I'm I think

894
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:28,200
we you know there's got to be a 
game where this defense only 

895
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,600
allows like one touchdown. 
There's got to be a deep game, 

896
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,400
where this defense pulls off 
like four or five turnovers in a

897
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,700
game. 
That's that's going to be the 

898
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:38,600
key for Indiana. 
If they're going to try to get 

899
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,400
to six wins because I just have 
yet to see enough out of the 

900
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,400
offense to really make me 
believe that they're going to be

901
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,800
able. 
To carry the weight needed to 

902
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,200
get this team to bowl 
eligibility. 

903
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,100
What about you? 
They just got to love each 

904
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,300
other. 
Just a little bit more if they 

905
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:55,600
could do that. 
No, I was saying that I can 

906
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:59,100
start games and halfs a little 
bit better. 

907
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,200
So you have four start, you 
know, two starts two games, two 

908
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,100
stars, two halves. 
They started the first half, the

909
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,600
first game against Illinois. 
They were down 73. 

910
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,900
Came out a little bit. 
Lifeless, they turned it on the 

911
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:12,000
second quarter. 
But then, as we talk about the 

912
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,700
Illinois post game, you know, 
they come out in the third right

913
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:18,500
after halftime and immediately 
pick six and or a pick. 

914
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:22,000
And then just A defense kind of 
gives Illinois, you know, pushes

915
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,600
them in and then the Idaho game,
they came out and looked 

916
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400
completely unprepared for the 
entire first half of the game. 

917
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,700
And so how kind of looking like 
you're ready, when the game 

918
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:33,900
starts we come out of halftime, 
I think would be really nice. 

919
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:36,900
They did come out of halftime 
against Idaho and do well, but 

920
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:40,700
you're kind of like that's 144. 
So I think starting a game and 

921
00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:44,200
starting a half in kind of a 
good mode would be, would be a 

922
00:47:44,207 --> 00:47:48,200
nice change to, ya know, it'd be
it'd be a nice change of pace. 

923
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,300
Certainly Last question and then
we'll wrap things up here. 

924
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,900
We had a, this has become a 
common thing. 

925
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,400
We almost need to split this up 
into its own podcast and maybe 

926
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,300
we will. 
But the question coming in, of 

927
00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:05,900
course from our buddy. 
Let me find it here real quick. 

928
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:10,900
Where to go William, follmer. 
This is actually a follow-up to 

929
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:12,700
the original question from 
Crimson Cory. 

930
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:16,500
What's the tailgate menu? 
But William Fulmer asks, or 

931
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,800
says, some of my favorite 
content from week to week 

932
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,000
number. 
No details too much. 

933
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,600
I really enjoyed dr. 
DC's comment about not liking to

934
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,100
cook cylindrical meets on the 
Blackstone last week, which is 

935
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,000
true. 
Like, yeah, it was, it's true. 

936
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,800
Also, I'd like to note if you 
didn't see the footage from the,

937
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,100
the Miami Dolphins parking lot, 
this is why you use gas folks. 

938
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,700
It's why you don't put like 
charcoal in your grill and you 

939
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:45,300
certainly don't put the charcoal
grill under the car, otherwise 

940
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:49,000
you end up with 11 torched cars 
in the parking lot, avoid that. 

941
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,700
Don't be a bad neighbor. 
Okay. 

942
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,600
My, my life I wanted to start 
with you. 

943
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,100
Actually, what's your menu going
to be? 

944
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,800
You've got the queue. 
I'm excited for you. 

945
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,100
What are you planning on cooking
this first week we're doing 

946
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:04,400
we're going to we talked about 
this at the start. 

947
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Did we well do it again out? 
I'll do it again. 

948
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,300
So, yeah, double down. 
No cylindrical meets. 

949
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:12,100
No Blackstone. 
Do we are doing little. 

950
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,800
Is this is straight off of a 
previous doctor GC breakfast, 

951
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,900
tailgate don't don't get too 
crazy. 

952
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,200
Z. 
So I'm not going to do like, you

953
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,700
know, egg burritos or, you know,
Ranchos wear velour. 

954
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,700
I really Richard. 
Does that go with the burrito 

955
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,700
from the previous podcast. 
Yes. 

956
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:33,200
Every time to to mess up of a 
pretty sure? 

957
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,200
This podcast, if you do is lay, 
it's like 11:00. 

958
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,700
I'm also watching the the 
Chargers and Herbert not get any

959
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,700
way on the menu is so we're 
doing pre-made biscuits. 

960
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,000
We're going to bring some 
sausage little sausage patties, 

961
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,200
going to grow those up and throw
some cheese on there may be Will

962
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,500
salsa. 
And then my son wants to bring 

963
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:53,400
Coruscant. 
So that's that's what my son. 

964
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,500
It really wants to bring a. 
Don't know where that's coming 

965
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,000
from. 
Well, I do know, of course are 

966
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,100
awesome, but it's not really a 
bit. 

967
00:49:58,100 --> 00:49:59,800
So anyway, that's that's what 
we're looking to do. 

968
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,700
Something kind of nice. 
Simple, easy enjoy the kids. 

969
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:04,500
We just got to figure out the 
right time to leave. 

970
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:08,000
I've been pushing. 7:30, my wife
wants to sleep in so we'll see 

971
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,900
what time we get there. 
I love the very French 

972
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:14,300
pronunciation that you're 
throwing on croissant. 

973
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:15,600
It's nice. 
Huh? 

974
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,100
Wow. 
I can you say brioche next A 

975
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:21,500
brioche. 
I can't, I can't pronounce a 

976
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:32,400
Ranchos where I think, which one
shows like this whole. 

977
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Soundboard. 
It's coming out of the last two 

978
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,500
minutes of his five guests. 
Great. 

979
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,400
So we are also doing breakfast 
sandwiches at my tailgate. 

980
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,700
We got a little more expansive 
because we got more grills 

981
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:45,300
competition. 
Yeah, it's let me have my thing 

982
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:47,800
but now dealt with that your 
thing I've been doing breakfast 

983
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,800
sandwiches for 12 A man who's 
talking about. 

984
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,500
But, yeah, we're have. 
We've my so, my wife has 

985
00:50:54,500 --> 00:51:02,000
perfected, the mock Chick-fil-A,
brine that you put the the 

986
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,800
chicken breast in. 
So we'll do some chicken 

987
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,100
biscuits which are always a big 
hit with people, throw some 

988
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:12,000
pickles on, there may be a 
little sauce, we will have 

989
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,900
sausage and bacon both and then 
we'll have both pre-made 

990
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,500
biscuits. 
Like you said we bake those 

991
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:20,600
ourselves the night before. 
And then we might do croissants.

992
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,300
We might do something else. 
I haven't decided yet for the 

993
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:26,600
other one and the nice thing 
about what I the way I try to do

994
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,400
the breakfast sandwiches is I 
cook everything to order, you 

995
00:51:30,408 --> 00:51:33,400
know, so I'll you know, I'll 
make eggs, you know. 

996
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,700
And some people like they like 
just whites some people, like 

997
00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:38,400
the whole thing with a like it 
broken. 

998
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,800
Some people like it scrambled 
up. 

999
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,600
So we put all that together and 
then the, you know, for those of

1000
00:51:42,607 --> 00:51:44,300
you who are out there listening,
they want to do the breakfast 

1001
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:46,600
sandwiches and Scott, I mean, 
I'll throw you in on this as 

1002
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,400
well. 
The key with making breakfast 

1003
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,000
sandwiches Not to just cook the 
meat, put it on the biscuit and 

1004
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,800
give it to a person. 
You have to cook the meat, put 

1005
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,600
it on the biscuit, wrap it in 
foil, put it back on the grill 

1006
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:02,500
and let the cheese melt. 
And that really like, so is 

1007
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:06,200
funny because last week we did 
Philly cheesesteak and we also 

1008
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,500
did tacos. 
We did like this whole taco bar.

1009
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:13,300
It actually was really nice and 
fortunately, everybody ate 

1010
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:14,700
everything right before it 
rained. 

1011
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,800
But people kept coming up to me.
They look, what do you 

1012
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,300
seasoning? 
This with this is amazing. 

1013
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:22,400
And I'm like Literally just salt
pepper and garlic like that's it

1014
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:26,000
and it's amazing if you buy good
things and then let them meld 

1015
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,500
properly on your cooking 
surface. 

1016
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,400
How much that does for flavor. 
And so with the breakfast 

1017
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,500
sandwich at all happens in that 
foil, but when you wrap it up 

1018
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400
and you let it cook and you let 
it heat up and you let it all 

1019
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,800
kind of get to the same 
temperature. 

1020
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:43,400
It makes a tremendous 
difference. 

1021
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:46,000
Your guests will notice it. 
They will thank you. 

1022
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,900
So that would be my advice. 
Bring foil and You know, put it 

1023
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:53,900
all together, let it toast a 
little bit internally and then 

1024
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:55,900
serve it. 
And everybody was like, wow, you

1025
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:59,100
are amazing at this. 
Scott please keep doing it so 

1026
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:01,200
that's my advice to you and 
everybody else out there. 

1027
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,400
That's listening. 
I'd taken. 

1028
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:05,900
All right, I'm done. 
Well, that'll wrap it up for us 

1029
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:08,500
on this one. 
We went a little long from what 

1030
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:10,300
Scott was hoping. 
So I apologize. 

1031
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:13,300
Scott, but good conversation. 
Thank you for all the questions.

1032
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:16,700
Sorry we didn't get to all of 
them but we are going to be back

1033
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:19,400
on Sunday. 
Most likely to Talk about 

1034
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,600
whatever happened in this game, 
hopefully, you're coming down 

1035
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,100
for the game wherever you're at,
whether that's Indianapolis or 

1036
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:28,300
Fort Wayne or the north side of 
Bloomington noon kick. 

1037
00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:31,900
Indiana takes on Western, 
Kentucky should be a fascinating

1038
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:33,000
game. 
Hopefully, I, you comes out 

1039
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,300
Victorious, Scott. 
Thank you as always. 

1040
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:39,100
Great to talk with you. 
Thanks to all you folks for not 

1041
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,400
just listening but those of you 
who set your questions in, you 

1042
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,400
can always send your questions 
to Crimson cast on Twitter. 

1043
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,300
We will take them. 
We will read. 

1044
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:49,800
Most of them will try to come up
with something, witty and 

1045
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,500
Adventure filled to say, catch 
you folks on the flip side, 

1046
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:55,300
bring back the Bison. 
So long, everybody.