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Welcome back to Crimson cast. 

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Galen clavius, got Caulfield 
joining a here. 

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It is the 2nd of October, and 
we're back, talking OU football.

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Again, the longest-running IU 
football podcast out there as we

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wind our way through a season. 
That's starting to look. 

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Uncomfortably familiar to 
certain seasons of the past. 

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We're going to talk about last 
night's loss for the Hoosiers in

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the other other Memorial Stadium
out in Nebraska is the Hoosiers.

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Fall 3521 to the Cornhuskers and
there was a lot to discuss 

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coming out of this game as 
Indiana, just struggled at all 

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of the wrong times. 
I think would be probably the 

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most charitable way of putting 
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So, we'll chat about that. 
We'll chat about some of the 

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individual elements of the game 
and we'll also, I guess trying 

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to figure out what happens from 
this point forward for this, 

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Indiana football program. 
As they now stand at three and 

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I bring my partner in Scott. 

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Caulfield's got good to see you.
How you doing? 

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Yeah. 
No, no. 

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I just I gotta do the podcast 
Marci. 

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Yeah, I'll be there in a couple 
minutes, Scott? 

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Yeah, no. 
Galen just waiting on Scale just

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waiting on the line. 
Scott. 

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Oh, oh, we starting. 
Yeah, we're sorry. 

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I didn't know, I prepared all 
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great start in this podcast, and
I didn't know that we were 

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starting right now. 
You know, it just kind of came 

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out. 
I know we have a clock up here. 

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It gives like a thirty five, 
second countdown for when the 

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gate, when the podcast starts. 
I just my bad Martha Galen 

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timeout, drill quick timeout. 
Wow. 

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This is three of them in the 
podcast, but I'll be there in a 

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sec. 
Yeah, James, yeah, you guessed. 

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Okay, okay. 
Okay, I'm ready. 

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You know, ready to go. 
If this is how you're starting 

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the podcast, I hate to think 
about how you're going to be 

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finishing the podcast. 
But, yes, no, I'm doing well. 

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Yeah. 
We have to start with that 

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start. 
It's bad. 

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You know, I have a bunch of 
things to talk about way more to

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talk about this game than I 
thought, I would kind of as the 

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game was wrapping up. 
High level very high level. 

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I go back to you and I went to 
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Purdue game was like 2018. 
It was 2017. 

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Actually. 
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Okay. 
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full year or second year of 
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second that was his first full 
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Yes it was and I remember at 
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grand old time also leaving 
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going to lose but it kind of 
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know, Jeff Brahms teams it does 
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weird kind of the two fan bases 
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It's like the spider made mean 
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fans fan base is looking at 
their the two coaches and both 

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you. 
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Brahms team and Purdue just 
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sound. 
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more discipline. 
They weren't making a lot of 

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silly mistakes. 
It's like we're still there with

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Alan and this team they still 
make mistakes and I were joking 

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about it and look everyone can 
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it's like you spend all week. 
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making a point of emphasis that 
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you know, the right way and you 
come out and you don't have a 

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play ready and you have to call 
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drives, and that, that drive is 
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Your second Drive is three plays
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Thanks to a penalty and you have
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mention, uniform, or coming 
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It's just it's tough and you're 
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level, you know, this Team and 
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while you know it son dis are, 
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discipline and it we're going to
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not going anywhere but it's 
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this to work out. 
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In 2020 Alan seems like he 
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try but we're at a point where 
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same thing every single week 
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of mistakes. 
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lot of variety to go. 
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It's like oh we're just gonna 
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You're going to figure out not 
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just going to not block for 
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figured out, but then we're 
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penalties. 
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be against Michigan, but they'll
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whoops, I forgot to practice 
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It's an undisciplined team, the 
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We can continue talking about 
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just we, you know, hey, Crimson 
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Home field a our line sucks. 
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other things and the second 
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Nebraska game was interesting 
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boxing match for Nebraska's. 
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It's like we're going to take a 
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this morning, like why don't we 
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It's like, oh yeah, because 
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Like you can't throw deep if you
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So it's just it's frustrating 
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we're getting into this kind of 
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the same thing over and over 
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you and I noticed years ago and 
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that again. 
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you know they had another delay 
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your best friend on the 
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weird like it's something you 
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up off of its to be like look 
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And again if we hurry up offense
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Why do we get set? 
Why do they look to the sideline

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for? 
Plays and then why don't we have

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plays ready? 
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It's just it's a horrible to 
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emblematic of a real problem. 
This team has that they are just

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undisciplined and sloppy and as 
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that's just it. 
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This is what we're going to be 
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over and over again for the 
remainder of this season and the

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remainder of his tenure because 
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That is by my math. 
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looks kind of Splendid sloppy. 
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about every year with IU 
football with a couple of 

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exceptions, your 2019 and 2020. 
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exceptions. 
Is that there is almost always a

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point in every season where it 
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where they reveal, who they are.
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reveal, what they're going to be
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Do you remember very clearly? 
It was it was obvious last. 

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Year when Indiana lost the game 
versus Cincinnati that this was 

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a team where we pretty much knew
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was actually going to happen. 
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obviously they, you know, they 
they played fairly well against 

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like, Michigan State later on 
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But those of us who have watched
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of get over the hump and you 
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actually dealing with. 
And you can kind of adjust your 

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feelings and and reactions to 
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And I feel like this was that 
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where, you know, I remember I 
was talking with some, some 

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media observers that follow all 
you football closely in the 

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week, leading up to this game. 
And you know, they were, they 

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wouldn't come out and say this 
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essentially like well Indiana's,
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this game because Nebraska has 
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will fold, you know? 
Nebraska is they're looking, you

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know, they fired their head 
coach, they've shifted They know

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they have their special teams 
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coordinator. 
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have one foot if not both feed 
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looking for their next 
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They've had that's a beaten-down
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they're just not going to be 
able to stick with it and Deanna

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is going to be able to figure 
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Well, Indiana folded instead, I 
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is, this is where, you know the 
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college football, generally 
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Fly to IU football. 
Because and, you know, any and I

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had literally everything to play
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You know, they win this game. 
They're two games from boils 

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ability. 
They have a road win in the 

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conference against the team that
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earlier to a group of five team 
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great group of five team. 
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everything on the line and in 
multiple places within this 

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game, they Were not only unable 
to execute but they actively 

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shot themselves in the foot and 
this is as you kind of alluded 

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to in your opening. 
That's essentially what we've 

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gotten used to with IU football.
I mean, you mentioned that game 

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at Purdue in 2017. 
I immediately thought of the 

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game that I you played up at 
Minnesota in 2018, which I was 

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at, I went to that with, you 
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friends, in the eye, you Sports 
media Biz, and That game was, 

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you know, a reeling, Minnesota 
team, a bunch of people, very 

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down on PJ, Fleck, Indiana, you 
know, right there on the cusp of

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potentially getting near Bowl 
eligibility and, you know, again

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and Indiana team that had 
everything to play for and they 

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win that game. 
They're very likely going to get

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Instead, they lay an egg in the 
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They make this big comeback, 
they take over the lead and then

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Give it back in the final 
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winning a game. 
They had no business winning, 

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and Indiana ends up. 
Finishing the season with a 5 

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and 7 record. 
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I'm like, kind of like this is 
the fulcrum point of the Season,

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we understand the team because I
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There's been this question of, 
you know, that the stats are 

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really not ideal on this team to
put it nicely. 

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This team grades out very poorly
and there's some concerning 

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things that you see with your 
eyeballs, but yet they were 3 

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and 0 and then the other side is
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Able to pull these games out. 
Like they can get stuff done and

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when, you know, comes down to 
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to get it done. 
It's like, okay, I didn't really

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see it that way, but you 
couldn't really argue it because

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the results were there. 
Now, I think you're starting to 

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see that was based on probably 
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team also, you know, in the last
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Cincinnati, that 197 yards, but 
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Cincinnati against Nebraska fan 
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their seven drives. 
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adjustments or different 
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shutting down our offense. 
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something that has been a 
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We start. 
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start games and we get down, you
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quarter scores, we're down to 
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Idaho, 10, 20, we're down to 
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to Cincinnati. 2:50 we're down 
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Caveat with one timeout wasted 
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because that's what we do. 
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the first quarter against 
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take Michigan and Over all day 
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Getting up 10. 
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impossible, impossible 
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it all. 
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team's Mo. 
It's not a, you know, about a 

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bug, this is a feature, but it 
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and not even at us like we play 
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we're playing, you know, great 
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it's just the curve is starting 
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competition. 
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second half adjustments are not.
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so it's it's very concerning 
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like we're playing Michigan next
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don't like in. 
Maryland looks pretty good. 

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Like it's I'm very concerned 
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slow and now seem to be able to 
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anything offensively in second 
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Those are really too bad 
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with especially in the Big Ten. 
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greatest conference but but you 
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where you have to bring it and 
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those that question you had on 
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should we move down to Visions? 
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do it just for a years four 
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for this year, we're gonna go to
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It's You look at some of the 
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they're just like stunning, I 
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on 23 carries but one of those 
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means that I you had 33 yards on
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that they had. 
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performance of Connor basil, a 
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just not where it needs to be. 
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missing camper, they were 
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just keep coming back to this 
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you've got, you're in, you're in
year 7 now I think of the Tom 

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Allen era and this team is so 
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there's no plan B, like there's 
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mean as much as we talk about 
the lack of the receivers and I 

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It's a big deal but there's 
literally nothing else for this 

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team to lean on. 
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They can't rely on that phase of
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I mean they even were doing the 
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second, half of using screens, 
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the running game and try to pick
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Sweep at one point. 
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go very, very deep into the 
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way to gain a modicum of yards 
and you look At their overall 

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numbers. 
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five games. 
Now, there's enough of a 

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national sample size. 
You can start comparing teams. 

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Indiana is 114th nationally in 
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They're gaining 4.75 yards on 
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I mean, that is putrid. 
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is a worse yards per play team 
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The question I guess to some 
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we've heard about Tom Allen and 
is recruiting ability for the 

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last six years. 
Here's where are all of the 

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players. 
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were missing were transfers. 
These were guys that came in 

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through the portal cam camper 
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Like where's the Homegrown 
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The quarterback also a transfer 
portal guy. 

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You know? 
No no you're you're leading 

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right into one of my other 
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I don't mean to cut you off. 
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was playing around with this a 
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don't want to pick on Donovan 
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But it's fair to look at him as 
like, you know, he was a super 

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highly recruited quarterback 
coming in that did and I know he

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didn't have he was supposed to 
be red shirted but it's not like

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when you're redshirted you're 
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you're not coached like he was 
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program as a quarterback and was
let's just be nice was not 

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functional as a D1 quarterback. 
Okay, he's now a wide receiver. 

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If had a year to do that, 
they've changed him twice. 

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But hey, it's like alright, if 
you Bringing a player and you 

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move him eight positions in a 
couple years. 

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Like that's also on the coaching
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non-factor this year, six 
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looked at the wide receiver core
okay to your point. 

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Here's our top receivers this 
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Based on yardage Camp, a was a 
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DJ Matthews was a transfer from 
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Simmons was a transfer from 
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on the wide receiver or 
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it? 
I you recruit but he's a tight 

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end, so let's keep going. 
Next is Josh Henderson. 

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He's a running back. 
Also, from North Carolina, Kobe 

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is from Tennessee. 
You get down to Donovan. 

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McCauley is the, I you recruit 
that he's the highest rated, I 

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you recruit. 
Who is getting, who's on our 

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wide receiver yardage for this 
year. 

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You go back and look at it and I
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depth. 
But like I just picked off the 

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2020 IU football commits. 
It's only two years. 

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There's not a ton of time that's
when recruiting start. 

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Move up for IU. 
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wide receiver, Rashawn Williams.
He transferred we have a three 

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and a half star running back, 
Tim Baldwin. 

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He transferred David Baker is 
still enrolled at IU. 

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Where is he? 
Why is he not catching? 

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It's it does to your point. 
It begs the question like we're 

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not. 
There's no recruits that are 

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coming through and for Tom Allen
that's kind of been the other 

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Saving Grace is like our 
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Better every single year. 
It's not showing up in the 

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secondary. 
It's not showing up in the 

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o-line. 
It's not showing up on the skill

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position, when all your skill 
position or transfers and you 

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can make a living in the 
transfer portal. 

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Not saying you can't do that but
all for the offseason stuff, 

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Allen's kind of been you know 
living on the I'm raising the I 

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you recruit level where they're 
not coming through to become 

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active players on the roster. 
Yeah, it's I was thinking last 

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night it's like You think back 
to where Indiana football was at

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winning? 
At Wisconsin in early, December 

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of 2020. 
And since that point, it's, it's

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almost unrecognizable. 
I mean six, since that Point 

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Indiana has what are they? 
They were too, and they were 

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they lost the bowl game. 
They were two antenna last year,

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and they're three and two this 
year. 

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So, five total wins since 
December of 2020 and the overall

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atmosphere around the team. 
Has gone from a confident 

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program that walks into you 
know, granted less hostile 

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environments than they normally 
are because of covid and picks 

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up victories and plays with 
swagger to a team that is 

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constantly looking over its 
shoulder. 

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And I'm, I would love to know 
what happened like really over 

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the course of this last period 
of time because so much of the 

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Bedrock items that we had 
expected out of Tom, Allen's 

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teams for Better, or For Worse. 
Seem to not be there right now. 

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You know, the defense which was 
a strong suit of Alan Alan came 

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in in 2016 is the defensive 
coordinator that defense was a 

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key. 
Part of 2019 and 2020 success, 

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overall has not looked like 
anything close to what it used 

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to be. 
And when Indiana, I mean, it's 

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tough because yesterday, on the 
one hand, you don't, you can't 

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criticize the defense too much 
because, you know, they score 

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the Touchdown. 
And they put Indiana in a 

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position for most of the third 
quarter where they might be able

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to succeed and, and they don't. 
But at the beginning of the 

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game, where they needed to make 
plays, they couldn't make plays,

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they get burned. 
And then at the end of the game 

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where they need to make plays 
they they can't make the plays 

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and they get burned and that 
ends up giving Nebraska the 

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margin of Victory. 
And so it's like it's hard to. 

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This was a better game for the 
defense than what we have seen 

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over all. 
But it was still not I think 

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anywhere close to a good enough 
game, given what Indiana's 

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limitations are on offense and 
that itself is a real problem 

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because the offense is 
essentially non-functional for 

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large stretches of the game. 
Not always, I mean this time 

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Indiana played really well 
around the first half. 

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You know, they played really 
well in the second quarter and 

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then they were you know a little
functional in the third quarter 

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but not much and then they 
essentially just stopped being 

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able to do anything. 
It's it's Bizarre Scott to watch

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a team work, a little bit of the
time and be able to be 

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functionally successful. 
A little bit of the time, but 

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not consistently, and it just 
like why. 

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We're, where is where does that 
lack of consistency? 

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Come from? 
I can understand it against a 

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Maryland. 
Excuse me against a Michigan, or

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against a Penn State, or an Ohio
State, but this Nebraska team is

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itself. 
The Exemplar of The lack of 

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consistency over the course of 
not just this season, but 

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previous Seasons, you know, for 
that team to out consistency, IU

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is a real punch in the gut, you 
know, because these are the the 

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problem for Indiana ultimately 
is like these are the margin 

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games that they have to win, if 
they're going to have anything 

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close to a successful season. 
And when you're presented with a

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an opponent, like this people 
people in the Twitter mentions 

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were like, well, you know, they 
had a bye week that out of that.

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It's This is not a well Nebraska
team, like, this is a Nebraska 

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team with no direction and no 
leadership. 

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They have talented players who 
have been essentially coached 

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poorly for the last two to four 
years. 

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And, you know, they just fired 
their coach. 

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Like, the idea that an Indiana 
program, that Tom Allen has been

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controlling for seven years and 
which clearly has the ability to

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execute at times even with the 
missing wide receivers. 

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The idea that that You can at 
least keep it within a score in 

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Lincoln in these environments 
are in this particular situation

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is. 
I think an indicator of a real 

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problem that we've talked about 
which is that it's just there's 

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just something fundamentally 
flawed with the way that this 

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Indiana team has been set up. 
It's one thing, you know, you 

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can look at a game and you can 
say well I don't think Indiana 

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is going to win. 
Then you get into the game and 

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you realize, wow, Nebraska is 
kind of fundamentally broken and

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you come back you tie the game 
at Halftime. 

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Time. 
And then don't score in the 

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second half and like you said, 
you're essentially getting shut 

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out offensively in the second 
half. 

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It doesn't make a whole lot of 
sense and it's incredibly 

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frustrating because, you know, 
we're not talking about Indiana,

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Waltzing into Ohio stadium and 
winning a game. 

447
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:45,000
We're talking about doing what 
Georgia, Southern did a few 

448
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,200
weeks ago and not being able to 
do it and for Indiana to not be 

449
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200
able to do that. 
It's hard to look at that. 

450
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,200
And say yeah, you know what in 
retrospect or you know, like 

451
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,300
looking This is a team that's 
going to be able to put things 

452
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,600
together and that's I guess like
when we when we can we were 

453
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,200
critical of the team were like 
look that that Illinois win that

454
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,600
Western Kentucky where I'm like 
that's kind of Fools Gold. 

455
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,100
Yes, there's those are wins on 
the schedule but they don't 

456
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,900
really indicate a likelihood of 
winning those games in the 

457
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:16,700
future because the win 
likelihood of those games was 

458
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:20,000
very, very low, Indiana 
shouldn't have won those games 

459
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,700
and did, but that was not likely
to last, and I think we're 

460
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:26,200
seeing here that it Not likely 
to last. 

461
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,500
Like that was more of a mirage 
than a reality. 

462
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,300
We look at Nebraska has like 
their, you know, fundamentally 

463
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:33,800
broken team. 
I'd love to hop on a Nebraska. 

464
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000
No casket are probably stay in 
like Indiana. 

465
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,400
That's a fundamentally broken 
team. 

466
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:43,100
I mean, you look at it is, it's 
I took this down and then I was 

467
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:46,900
starting to, I haven't done 
enough into this but now I fully

468
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:50,700
aware Walt Bell is running a 
faster, hurry up type offense. 

469
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,200
So this is a little bit of an 
unfair stat but that said even 

470
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,900
in a fast her Hurry up offense, 
a good a good drive is going to 

471
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:01,900
take up some time we had 15 
drives against Nebraska. 

472
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:06,500
Nine of them did not result in a
first down, that's putrid, but 

473
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,200
nut. 
I was kind of looking through 

474
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,200
none of the drives lasted more 
than three minutes and I know 

475
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,400
you're doing, hurry, it's like I
know it's like inherently drives

476
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600
are not going to be, you know, 
you're not going to get a seven 

477
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,500
eight, nine, minute drive out of
this team. 

478
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,300
But you know, if you have a 
nice, if you have a couple of 

479
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:25,500
runs and you know, not and also 
it's not like we haven't Loss of

480
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,100
like oh we're getting 80, yard 
touchdowns left and right like 

481
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000
even with a hurry-up offense a 
good drive should be three, 

482
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,800
four, five minutes. 
If you're having a couple of 

483
00:26:32,808 --> 00:26:35,000
those you're giving your defense
some rest. 

484
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,500
So I went back and look. 
So all right no drives against 

485
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,700
Nebraska for more than three 
minutes and our Drive chart 

486
00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:42,700
against Nebraska. 
It is, I don't have it up and 

487
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:46,100
maybe it's like, you know, 28 
seconds, half a minute. 

488
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,900
You know, it's really bad. 
But if you go back at since the 

489
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:53,300
game against Cincinnati, we only
had two drives over three 

490
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:54,900
minutes. 
Oh, sorry. 

491
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,500
He drives or not too bad, two of
them were four minutes. 

492
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,500
One was three minutes and six 
seconds against Western 

493
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,600
Kentucky. 
We only had one drive for more 

494
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800
than three minutes and against 
Illinois. 

495
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,600
I'm leaving Idaho out of this 
against Illinois. 

496
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:13,300
We only had one drive for over a
shark to drives over three 

497
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:15,800
minutes but one of those was 
three minutes and eight seconds,

498
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,800
it's not like three-minute 
drives are the, some kind of, 

499
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,500
you know, key to success. 
But when you're not able to put 

500
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:26,800
any of them together and so what
I'm Where I'm going with this is

501
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,300
the stock market. 
I think close attention to it. 

502
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,700
I've done well with the stock 
market, but if you look at it 

503
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,800
like day-to-day or like we look 
at three days like, oh my God, 

504
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,200
it was up two days but down one.
It's like that's a trend that's 

505
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,400
kind of like IU football where 
you can see a couple of good 

506
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,000
plays that you said there's 
these moments where it's like, 

507
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,200
there's a couple of good plays, 
but if you pull out and look at 

508
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200
the stock market for a year, 
those little gaps like suddenly 

509
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600
it becomes part of a larger 
Trend where it's like, oh this 

510
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,000
year we're down 18 percent and 
so that, Those two days don't 

511
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,900
really matter, similar Without 
You football. 

512
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,300
Like, when you just take a step 
back. 

513
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,200
Now, when you look at all of the
games, like this is an offense, 

514
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,800
that is just incapable of 
holding onto the ball, doing 

515
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,100
anything functional with the 
ball and I think you're seeing 

516
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:17,700
it also hurting the defense, but
yeah, making that many drives to

517
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:20,400
not really do anything with it 
and not even again. 

518
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,400
Three minutes is not the end all
be all but two and a half 

519
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,700
minutes like you Got to hold the
ball a little bit. 

520
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,600
You've got to get some first 
downs, you've got to move it but

521
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,000
yeah. 
Nebraska 15 drives nine of them 

522
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,700
did not result in a first down. 
No drives for more than three 

523
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:39,500
minutes, that's putrid. 
Well, it is awful and it doesn't

524
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,100
get, you know, when you look at 
the defense, has the defense 

525
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,800
ranks Nebraska's, one of the 
worst of the Big Ten like it 

526
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,400
just maybe Michigan State's a 
little bit easier, but it's also

527
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,500
a road game. 
I just, I need someone to 

528
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:53,100
explain I mean, this was 
Nebraska's first win against an 

529
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:59,300
FBS opponent in 64 days they 
have lost nine in a row, you 

530
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:04,600
know the it's just that all the 
talk about oh well Lincoln's a 

531
00:29:04,608 --> 00:29:07,200
hard place to play, it's like, 
come on, like this. 

532
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,700
This is a Nebraska team that is 
in its kind of its lowest ebb. 

533
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:13,900
It kind of reminds me of those 
Michigan teams under Rich 

534
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:18,500
Rodriguez that were clearly 
struggling like to just put two 

535
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,800
and two together and Indiana, 
couldn't beat them at all during

536
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,500
that period of time. 
I gotta say, I gotta say, with 

537
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,200
Lincoln Like it is, it was 
again, like this is the 

538
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,900
difference between a program 
that takes football, seriously. 

539
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,500
And then I love, I even like, 
you know, Fred glass tried his 

540
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,300
best to get fans in and like it 
was that third to fourth quarter

541
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:41,100
transfer where it's like, oh 
we're gonna play that William 

542
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,600
Tell song, we're going to have, 
you know, we're going to take 

543
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,300
the red steppers and put little,
you know, masks on them. 

544
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:48,900
Say look like The Lone Ranger 
like, that'll be fun. 

545
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,000
And then you look at Nebraska 
last night said, hey, we're 

546
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,800
going to truffle ice and 
everyone has glow sticks. 

547
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,900
We're gonna fire into the, we're
going to do like Road. 

548
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,200
Rotating lights around the 
stadium. 

549
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,400
It's like what the hell's 
happening here like this, look 

550
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,800
like a Super Bowl halftime show.
Yeah, I mean putting that aside 

551
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:08,900
but no I look at the end of the 
day it's there's just so many 

552
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:12,000
little things that you look at 
this particular game. 

553
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,800
And you know certainly there's 
players that I think we're 

554
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,800
deserving of praise and it'll 
get kind of lost in the shuffle.

555
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,500
I mean I think you know I tip my
hat on the offensive side to 

556
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:26,600
Emory Simmons who certainly 
hadn't played that Much caught 

557
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,600
six balls, 457 yards had a 
touchdown and I thought I 

558
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,900
understood Kobe played pretty 
well. 

559
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,800
That's not a guy that had seen a
whole lot of action thus far. 

560
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,600
And I and I was impressed with 
electric on a couple of his cup 

561
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600
of his catches, he looks really,
really good. 

562
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,700
You know, defensively, I that 
cam Jones and Aaron Casey both 

563
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,500
played pretty well. 
Overall Brian Fitzgerald who 

564
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,800
we've been somewhat critical of 
on the show for not playing 

565
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,200
better, had that huge 
interception and just had a good

566
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,400
game overall I thought but there
just were so in that that 

567
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,400
interception is like that is 
where I you. 

568
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,700
It's like we just if we get luck
it's always bad luck. 

569
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,700
Like I've been just unbelievable
interception. 

570
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,300
Well you just cannot State how 
insane the interception was but 

571
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:11,200
of course his knee is on the 
half-yard line. 

572
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600
So it's like that's a it's 
almost like it would have been 

573
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,600
better for him to drop it or 
like you'd like again he's 

574
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400
obviously you can't be like hey 
while you're doing it and say 

575
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,600
one-handed catch falling out of 
bounds. 

576
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,400
Can you work on yard pick? 
He work on your body control 

577
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,700
like yeah it's like a Force that
amazing interception had to be 

578
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,600
like, well, you know, this is 
going to either end to the 

579
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,200
safety or through three and out.
Like, this is, it's just, it 

580
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,700
sucks that it had to happen that
way. 

581
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,400
But I mean, yeah, those are 
phenomenal interception. 

582
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Yeah, it look. 
I mean, ultimately, all of those

583
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,000
good performances were just 
essentially overshadowed by 

584
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Indiana's inconsistencies and 
their inability to execute where

585
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,000
it mattered and just like Plays 
the where it shouldn't have been

586
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,700
anywhere close to where it was 
the punt block. 

587
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:58,500
I keep coming back to, and I'm 
just like, how on Earth I mean, 

588
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:02,400
that was one of I don't know if 
I've seen a bigger Jailbreak in,

589
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,800
in terms of a punt block. 
I mean, it was like, literally 

590
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,100
nobody decided to block for 
Indiana on the player. 

591
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:12,800
Guys, could have block that pun,
you know, there was a play. 

592
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,800
I think it was earlier, it was 
actually, it was after that. 

593
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,100
I think. 
No, it was before where, you 

594
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:22,600
know, the The lying just doesn't
block on the right side and you 

595
00:32:22,608 --> 00:32:24,900
know, Connor, basal-like ends up
getting sacked and he go back 

596
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,600
and look at the replay and it's 
like how I've never seen a right

597
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,900
tackle. 
Just not like just started like 

598
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,600
fries basically and not know 
what to do and then a running 

599
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,300
back being like, Oh wait, I 
don't know what I'm supposed to 

600
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:40,100
do and it was almost like they 
guided the rusher in to the 

601
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,600
quarterback. 
We're kind of lucky. 

602
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,600
I think that basil act didn't 
fumble the ball. 

603
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:49,600
You look at You're leading, 
rusher is Jalen Lucas this 

604
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,600
electric freshman. 
That everybody's been talking 

605
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000
about. 
Had three carries 39 yards. 

606
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,600
On three carries, didn't see him
again. 

607
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,300
The rest of the game except at 
the very tail end of the game. 

608
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,400
When they had this like 
160-pound back in blocking in 

609
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,700
pass protection and that, you 
know, as much as we hear about, 

610
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,500
oh Indiana doesn't have 
Playmakers or they don't have, 

611
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,500
you know electric difference 
makers from a physical 

612
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,100
perspective. 
It's like I look like a pretty 

613
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:15,100
electric player and they 
couldn't figure out a way to get

614
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:18,600
them on the field. 
Even if you're putting him in 

615
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,300
the slot and you're bringing 
him, you know, into a bubble 

616
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:25,000
screen formation or something 
like that, at least try, if you 

617
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,500
have Playmakers to get them into
space and utilize them, and it 

618
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:32,500
just feel, it, feels like with 
this Indiana offense, they are 

619
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:37,200
incapable, consistently of 
figuring out on each Drive. 

620
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,300
Okay, how do we get players into
position to be successful? 

621
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,700
And it's a different problem. 
Every time you know, Connor 

622
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:46,700
basil, Act was very 
inconsistent. 

623
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Yesterday he had a lot of throws
that were off Target. 

624
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,100
He was having to move around in 
the pocket, a bunch. 

625
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,600
But then there were also times 
when basil Act was not an 

626
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,100
accurate and he put the ball on 
the numbers and the receiver 

627
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:01,300
wouldn't pull the ball in. 
You've got receivers, not coming

628
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,500
back to the ball. 
To the point that we're 

629
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,200
watching, basil act like 
motioning to the wide receivers,

630
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,300
after the play to come back. 
When the protection inevitably 

631
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:14,100
breaks down, you've got the 
protection, which, you know, 

632
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,400
again, as we said at the 
beginning, makes it essentially 

633
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,000
impossible. 
To maintain any semblance of a 

634
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
running game. 
And also about every third or 

635
00:34:22,007 --> 00:34:25,000
fourth drop back puts the 
quarterback in a position where 

636
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,100
he's either having to scramble 
out of the pocket, throw an 

637
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,100
early pass. 
That's likely, inaccurate, or 

638
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,699
get sacked. 
And, and again, it's like you 

639
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:36,400
mentioned this. 
This is not Ohio State, this is 

640
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000
not Michigan. 
This is Nebraska who had one of 

641
00:34:39,007 --> 00:34:41,000
the worst defenses in the 
league. 

642
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:44,600
People, you know, after the game
I think are acting like this is 

643
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,600
supposed to be a higher level. 
The Big Ten defense that Indiana

644
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,500
played than it actually was so 
look, I don't know. 

645
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:55,800
I mean, we can talk about this, 
you know, for the next two or 

646
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,600
three hours and it's going to be
the same thing and it's just, 

647
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:04,700
you know, you look at this 
performance and it's, yes, it's 

648
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:06,900
on the road. 
Yes, Indiana could potentially 

649
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:09,900
come back and play better at 
home, but you look at the 

650
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,400
remaining home games at 
Indiana's got on the schedule 

651
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,400
and it's hard to Envision them 
winning more than Maybe one of 

652
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,600
them, and even that might be a 
stretch. 

653
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,200
I mean, the remaining games at 
home, they've got Michigan at 

654
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,800
home. 
That does not seem like a game 

655
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,100
that Indiana is likely to win. 
They've got Maryland at home. 

656
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,700
That does not seem like a game. 
Indiana is likely to win. 

657
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:34,400
I mean, that Maryland, team was 
able to pretty easily handle at 

658
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,300
home, Michigan State and played 
pretty well on the road, the 

659
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:40,200
previous week against Michigan. 
They've got Penn State at home. 

660
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,900
That looks like a very unlikely 
win. 

661
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,900
They've got Purdue at home and 
you know as much as people have 

662
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:47,200
been pointing and laughing at 
Purdue and just A viably. 

663
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,300
So that's a Purdue team that 
picked themselves off. 

664
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:53,800
The carpet went to a superior 
opponent talent-wise and style 

665
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,600
of Play Wise and essentially 
left no doubt in beating 

666
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,400
Minnesota like, that was a 
pretty dominant performance. 

667
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,300
All Things Considered by that 
Purdue team, especially on 

668
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,900
defense. 
And so I just I look at this and

669
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:11,600
I say, I mean is the season over
for all, you know, but where did

670
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,000
the winds come from it, this 
point and you know to be sitting

671
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,100
at three wins on the season 
Looking forward and saying to 

672
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:20,900
yourself. 
Well, there's a real problem 

673
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:25,000
here because Indiana has allowed
at least 20 points in every game

674
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,600
they've allowed at least 30 
points in each of the last three

675
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,700
games and they don't they, 
unfortunately, this is a year 

676
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,500
where Indiana isn't playing any 
of the real offensively 

677
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:37,300
challenged teams out of the Big 
Ten West. 

678
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:41,700
They're not playing Wisconsin, 
they're not playing Iowa, you 

679
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,400
know? 
And even if they were, it's hard

680
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,100
to Envision Indiana's offense 
being able to perform against 

681
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,900
those defenses. 
The That's a Purdue performed 

682
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:52,900
against Minnesota or the way 
that Illinois performed against 

683
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,900
Wisconsin. 
So, it's just frustrating 

684
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:58,000
because all of the trend lines 
and all of the observable 

685
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,300
statistics, and all of the 
advanced statistics have been 

686
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:03,100
telling us the same thing for a 
while about this team, this team

687
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,700
isn't very good, this was like 
the one game. 

688
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:10,600
You felt like they might be able
to steal on the road and it 

689
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,800
didn't happen if it was right 
there, they're tied going into 

690
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,800
the fourth quarter and instead 
of seizing control, Role of the 

691
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,700
game and figuring out a way to 
win, they lose by 14. 

692
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,800
Again, not a huge surprise, but 
very disappointing because it 

693
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,400
just felt like that was the door
closing on. 

694
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,300
You know, what could have been a
successful season if things had 

695
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:35,600
broken the right way for IU. 
So the door closing on a 

696
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,600
possible win me. 
Like and there's just not that 

697
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,200
many more. 
You mentioned that Purdue game. 

698
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,000
It is. 
That's what was so unique about,

699
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:47,900
you know, even in 2019, it's 
like we kind of pick Do some 

700
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:49,900
guys were having rough years 
like in 2020. 

701
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:52,000
That's what was so different is 
that we won that Penn State 

702
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,900
games like oh my God, we never 
win those types of games and 

703
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,200
it's like, a couple weeks. 
You have Michigan looming. 

704
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,900
It's all right. 
Well, this is all gonna come 

705
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,900
Crashing Down to Earth and like,
know we beat Michigan. 

706
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:02,300
It's like, oh, we got to go to 
Wisconsin. 

707
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:04,800
Like that's that's where it's 
like, oh no, we won that Kate. 

708
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,300
Like we're doing things, we 
don't normally do but now we're 

709
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:12,400
back to reality and that Purdue 
game is a prime example. 

710
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Like we almost never have games 
like that, all outside of 20 T 

711
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,100
where it's like Minnesota was 
the hot shit T. 

712
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,700
Like they're the team has won 
two in a row. 

713
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:24,800
They're beating teams down there
not giving up any points and 

714
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,900
Purdue goes in there and winds 
and just beats a top 20 team. 

715
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,600
You know, we go into Nebraska 
team, that's falling apart and 

716
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,600
can't get it done. 
It is reminiscent of kind of 

717
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,500
just the natural world world 
world order. 

718
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,400
But yeah, when you look forward 
and this is What's always so 

719
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,300
frustrating about being an IU 
fan, is things calcify around us

720
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:51,300
at this time of year were four 
teams. 

721
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:55,200
Like you know, if we were Purdue
it's like will be like, oh well 

722
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,300
I mean Minnesota. 
You like they're, they're on 

723
00:38:57,308 --> 00:38:58,700
fire, they're ranked in the top 
20. 

724
00:38:58,700 --> 00:38:59,800
Like we're not going to win that
game. 

725
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
It's like, that's what happens. 
Like know you can do it. 

726
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Like, it's possible to go beat 
these teams, but yet, as we look

727
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,100
at this schedule, it's like, all
right. 

728
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,400
Well, we still have Michigan 
Penn State and Ohio State. 

729
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400
Those are all losses. 
But now Maryland is kind of 

730
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000
calcifying is a loss One's gotta
go. 

731
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,400
You know, Rutgers sounds that no
Rutgers is like one of the top 

732
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,200
five rated defenses in the Big 
Ten. 

733
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,700
Like they are a vastly better 
defense than Nebraska. 

734
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:24,600
The place isn't as tough to 
play, but like that's getting 

735
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,800
tough, you know, Michigan State 
baby, but they still rank out 

736
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,400
better than Nebraska. 
And most areas are, then Purdue 

737
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,600
now has a real Lifeline. 
It's like everything always 

738
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200
calcifies into losses this time 
of year and everything. 

739
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,600
The cement gets hard and all the
hard game stay hard but some of 

740
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,200
the all the ones we thought were
easy, get hard and then we lose 

741
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,000
them all. 
And Were never able to go like 

742
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,200
kind of you know take one that 
we shouldn't get while also 

743
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,100
getting the ones we should. 
It's super frustrating. 

744
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:53,900
And my final point is this I 
don't want to be negative. 

745
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:59,200
But, you know, I beginning of 
the year I had us at three wins,

746
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,700
you know, I kind of missed up 
which ones we were going to get 

747
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,900
as I sit here right now. 
I just have to say, I think I 

748
00:40:05,908 --> 00:40:09,400
think we're going to lose out. 
I don't see where, you know, 

749
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200
this was a type of game where 
this was a game that was there. 

750
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:19,000
The taking but you know the 
offense scores 14 points, you 

751
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,300
get a nice defensive score, 
that's great. 

752
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,400
You mentioned that pump block 
that turned into a touchdown to 

753
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,200
me that kind of the Season 
hinges on that. 

754
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,500
And that this is a team and 
always kind of has been where 

755
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,900
it's like you just you say it a 
lot like you know, we're kind of

756
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,900
on the razor's Edge but it's 
just as this team you don't get 

757
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,800
to make those kinds of horrific 
mistakes. 

758
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,200
You just can't, you can't have 
those mistakes. 

759
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,900
X where you punt, you give up a 
pump, block that turns into a 

760
00:40:45,908 --> 00:40:48,100
touchdown. 
You just, you don't have that 

761
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,700
margin for. 
Are you don't Ohio State? 

762
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,900
Can they can make two of those 
at a game and still win by 25. 

763
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Michigan can Nebraska can have a
jailbreak and have a safety turn

764
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,000
into a touchdown and they can 
still win by 14. 

765
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,500
I mean, that's the thing, it's 
not like, this was a one player 

766
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,700
game where it's like, damn if 
that last drive we would have 

767
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:10,400
had no like we lost my 14, 
Nebraska covered twice. 

768
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:12,800
Like covered, five and a half 
two different, they almost 

769
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,800
covered it. 
X. 

770
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Yeah, you know. 
So it's like wheat we always 

771
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,000
make those mistakes but we just,
you can't. 

772
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,700
And when you're at, I use level 
with the seemingly Talent 

773
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:28,500
deficiency that we have. 
It's tough at the last thing I'd

774
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,000
it's going to shoehorn this into
the end. 

775
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,500
It's like this is again, take a 
shot. 

776
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,500
This is why I hate talking about
recruiting because we'll get to 

777
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,400
April May June and it's like oh 
we get all these recruits and 

778
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,800
like, you know, Alan's moving 
up, the recruiting Trail. 

779
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,100
It's like yeah we're ranked 24th
but Entry ago we got this 

780
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,700
four-star. 
There's an ongoing Alabama. 

781
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,900
It's like all right that's great
but if you can't turn recruits 

782
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,200
into players on the field of 
those positions then none of it 

783
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,200
matters. 
And if all of your talent is 

784
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,600
coming in the transfer portal 
that's fine. 

785
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,300
But then stop recruiting like 
stop talking about recruiting so

786
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:06,900
that that's where I'm very, very
one more, very concerned. 

787
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,200
Because right now we are seeing 
none of the skill positions. 

788
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:15,600
Any of those recruits that are 
So highly touted turning into 

789
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,400
anything functional on the field
and that's a real problem 

790
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:23,400
because at this point when you 
have two wide receivers down and

791
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,600
you have kind of a, you know, 
why receiving Corps? 

792
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,600
That's also kind of turning over
from last year. 

793
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,300
This would be a perfect time to 
see some of those recruits do 

794
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,300
something instead. 
It's like Kobe was kind of the 

795
00:42:34,308 --> 00:42:36,700
guy last night and kind of 
jumped off the page that's a 

796
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:40,100
transfer. 
So this is very frustrating in a

797
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,500
lot of respects because I'm not 
sure I see another win. 

798
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:43,200
I'm not sure. 
I see. 

799
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:46,300
This team being able to put 
everything together in one game 

800
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:49,800
to get a win but long-term man. 
I also don't know where you go 

801
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,300
from here because I don't see 
that influx of talent coming 

802
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:58,700
onto the field from the 
recruiting base and Indiana. 

803
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:01,700
Just well, we haven't shown in 
the transfer portal. 

804
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:04,600
It's like, we're getting the, 
you know, base lack is good, but

805
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,200
it's like he wasn't the top tier
were, you know, quarterback. 

806
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,700
We're not winning the transfer 
portal battle either. 

807
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,700
So, it's just, it's tough times,
man. 

808
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:14,400
Like this is why you hate 
October, but Hey, pumpkin spice 

809
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,300
latte. 
Yeah, back. 

810
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,700
Well look, I think I agree with 
what you said there. 

811
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:21,700
I think the other thing though 
is it's, it's not, it's not the 

812
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:25,200
recruiting issues as much as 
it's the development. 

813
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:29,100
I just where's the Player 
Development where like the 

814
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,200
getting the whole idea is you 
bring in players of a certain 

815
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,500
level and then you coach them up
and it's wild that Indiana is 

816
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,400
spending as much money as they 
are on like an NFL level 

817
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,500
strength and conditioning coach 
and they can't develop Help 

818
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,900
players that I was something 
that someone tweeted, or a 

819
00:43:45,908 --> 00:43:51,000
texted to me, who follows the 
team closely, it's it's wild 

820
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,500
that Indiana looks kind of like 
it's always looked despite all 

821
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,000
of this influx of talent and 
they've had to plug so many 

822
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,600
holes. 
And look, you're going to get a 

823
00:44:00,607 --> 00:44:03,900
lot of players out of the 
transfer portal, but that it 

824
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,100
like, there doesn't seem to be a
reservoir of other players that 

825
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:09,300
are also developing in parallel 
to that. 

826
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:12,900
And a lot of these transfer 
portal players as we've talked 

827
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:15,700
about, Like you can see why they
were in the transfer portal, not

828
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:18,100
that they're bad players, but 
they're often inconsistent, 

829
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:21,300
which is essentially the 
watchword for this IU football 

830
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:24,300
team. 
And I don't know, I mean, a lot 

831
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:29,000
of the people who were very 
negative on Tom Allen and the 

832
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,300
program of Tom Allen, I think 
more to the point and this goes 

833
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:35,300
all the way back to your 
conversation with the folks at 

834
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,100
punt. 
John punt. 

835
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:42,600
This offseason is that the Mojo,
the momentum of the Tom Allen 

836
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,500
program. 
It Why you like hitting a brick 

837
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:51,900
wall in that 2021 season and 
we've seen this play out before 

838
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:54,100
it? 
I you where, when a coach loses 

839
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:57,300
that momentum, it's incredibly 
hard to get it back and, you 

840
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,300
know, I think you there were 
certainly arguments to be made 

841
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:03,500
through the first three games 
that well, you know, maybe 

842
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,300
they're not playing well, but 
there, they figured out a way to

843
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:10,400
win games, and maybe that's an 
encapsulation of it. 

844
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,100
And yet, in these last two, as 
you said, they've come out 

845
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:17,200
Prepared, they've made mistakes 
throughout, you know, I don't 

846
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,500
think there's much shame in 
losing at Cincinnati but the way

847
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:23,300
they lost it Cincinnati was 
frustrating because it was 

848
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,200
largely self-inflicted. 
And this was also a loss that 

849
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,300
was largely self-inflicted and, 
you know, your point about you 

850
00:45:30,308 --> 00:45:32,600
don't to be negative. 
But it's hard to see winds 

851
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,600
remaining on the schedule. 
Look, the wind probability for I

852
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:44,800
use opponents for the rest of 
the way our 92% Michigan. 80% 

853
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:51,100
Maryland, 61% Rutgers 83%, 
that's what Penn State. 

854
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:59,000
I think, 98%, Ohio, State, 84%, 
110 84%, Michigan State and 74%,

855
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Purdue. 
So Indiana, will be an underdog 

856
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,400
in every remaining game. 
And we said that two weeks ago 

857
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,300
as well, I mean, they are 
underdogs every every step of 

858
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:12,700
the way. 
And that's not us being - that 

859
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:17,900
is Fpi, which is, you know, 
ESPN's computer which doesn't 

860
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:22,100
really care who the team is 
looking looking at the numbers. 

861
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,300
It doesn't love each other, it's
just cares about number. 

862
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,500
It's looking at the numbers and 
it's saying that this Indiana 

863
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:30,800
team against opponents that they
are playing is worse in every 

864
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,400
single game moving forward. 
And that's a real problem 

865
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,700
because I don't see where it's 
wrong. 

866
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:40,700
Like I do, it's hard for me to 
look at that and say to myself. 

867
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:44,000
Oh yeah, no FBI clearly isn't 
taking Into account. 

868
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,800
Something important about this, 
I you football team? 

869
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,700
That's essentially who they are 
and and I just, I keep coming 

870
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:54,500
back to this idea that what we 
were told all offseason was that

871
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:57,000
last year, was a culture 
problem. 

872
00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:59,600
And, of course, you know, we 
didn't get the answers as to, 

873
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,800
why a culture problem, popped up
after two of the most successful

874
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,300
seasons and IU football history,
it was just kind of accepted. 

875
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:08,100
Well, there were, there were 
some bad apples on the roster 

876
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:11,200
and therefore, but no things 
have different now and Tom, 

877
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,400
Allen's taking over the defense 
and And you know they've got a 

878
00:47:14,408 --> 00:47:17,200
new offensive coordinator in and
that's going to fix everything. 

879
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,300
And I think what we're seeing 
unfortunately is that there's a 

880
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:26,900
far greater fundamental issue 
with the fabric of Indiana 

881
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:30,600
football where they're still 
making these types of mistakes 

882
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,800
and still struggling in these 
sorts of games. 

883
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,700
And again we are deep into Tom 
Allen's tenure, you know it. 

884
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:41,400
So I just I don't I'm with you. 
It's like it's hard to see this 

885
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,100
team suddenly finding religion. 
Ian between now and two weeks 

886
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:50,600
from now when they play Maryland
is, you know, is it possible 

887
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,600
sure. 
Could they win another game or 

888
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,900
two? 
Sure they and if they do, I 

889
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:56,900
think certainly we will change 
the narrative. 

890
00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:59,300
But from what we've got right 
now from the evidence, through 

891
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,900
five games, that sitting on the 
table, it's hard to feel that 

892
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:07,300
positive about where the program
is at and you look at the lack 

893
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:10,500
of development of players, you 
look at the consistent, 

894
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:13,900
seven-year struggles on the 
offensive line and Absolute 

895
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:17,800
inability of Tom, Allen to do 
anything to fix it or seem to 

896
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,900
even acknowledge that. 
It's an actual problem that 

897
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:23,500
needs fixing. 
You look at the defense 

898
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:26,800
regressing significantly from 
where it was a couple of years 

899
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,800
ago, in terms of, you know, both
forcing turnovers and just being

900
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,200
able to stop the opponent in key
moments. 

901
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,200
And this is where I think a lot 
of the pessimism comes from. 

902
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,300
It's this idea that there 
doesn't seem to be any easy 

903
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:45,700
remedy and No. 
The to some degree, the best 

904
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:51,200
chances to demonstrate that 
Indiana is actually able to be 

905
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,800
successful against opponents 
that are beatable like that 

906
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,200
times kind of come and gone. 
I mean, yes, you've got a couple

907
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,200
more games like that on the 
schedule, but this was a great 

908
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,900
opportunity against probably the
most wounded opponent on the 

909
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:06,000
schedule and they couldn't 
figure out a way to pull it out 

910
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,300
when it was there and that, that
is very frustrating. 

911
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,100
You know, I watched Tom Allen's 
postgame press conferences, the 

912
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,700
part like I mean, he's not, 
they're never gonna say anything

913
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:19,300
amazing in there, but it's like 
I hate going on this row but 

914
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,800
it's like you're getting picked.
Like you got the big contract, 

915
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,600
okay? 
You're getting paid. 

916
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,400
You're not, you're not, you 
know, there was a time there 

917
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,200
where it's like, you'll build 
Lynch or Kevin Wilson's? 

918
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,800
All right, well like but in the 
end like this is like the 13th 

919
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,800
highest paid Gil coach. 
The big Ten's like what are you 

920
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200
trying to do? 
Alan's making the 25 million 

921
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,600
dollars a year. 
Like you are making the the 

922
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,800
solid money. 
We're Like a at least somewhat 

923
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,200
respectable mid-level, Big Ten 
program. 

924
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:47,600
This is to me where I would say 
to the team, like the rubber 

925
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,400
meets the road, I don't know how
you're going to do it, but you 

926
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
need to win a game. 
You need to win one more game 

927
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,800
this year. 
Because as you said as I've said

928
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,200
like nothing is going to happen.
This offseason with the coaching

929
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,300
staff. 
Hopefully one offensive line 

930
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:04,800
coach might change but outside 
of that, nothing else is 

931
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,300
inherently changing with the 
high level coaching staff. 

932
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:11,900
Is going to be really hard for 
anybody to like mentally get 

933
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,500
excited and like do the mental 
gymnastics in the marketing to 

934
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:17,900
talk about, like this program is
on the rise, or we're doing 

935
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,200
better things. 
When you have two years where 

936
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,700
you lose out, like, yes, this 
year, you won one more game and 

937
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:27,500
you want a Big Ten game, but 
it's kind of almost going to be 

938
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:32,500
washed away if you lose out and 
if you go three and eight and 

939
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,200
you lose eight in a row that's 
going to suck. 

940
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,200
If we're at a point where the 
last win in October, Was in 

941
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:44,000
2020, that's not a great look. 
If you've gone two years without

942
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,800
winning a game after September, 
that's all fun. 

943
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,300
When you just lose out, two 
years in a row, that's going to 

944
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,200
really kill interest in the 
program. 

945
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,400
So, this is where the rubber 
hits the road. 

946
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,200
You know, this is where Allen 
needs to show why? 

947
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,300
He's a national Coach of the 
Year candidate. 

948
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:01,600
Why? 
He's a good coach? 

949
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Like things are not going well, 
if he can only win and do well, 

950
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,400
when all the stars are aligned 
and we're humming and 

951
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,800
everything. 
Is rolling, right? 

952
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,300
Then he's not the right coach 
for Indiana because things are 

953
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:15,400
not always going. 
This is not Ohio State things 

954
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,400
are not always going to be 
humming. 

955
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,800
It's not a program where you 
could just kind of sit back. 

956
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,900
Like there are a lot of moments 
like this where you and I have 

957
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,000
podcast it for 10 years were 
like things aren't going right. 

958
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,500
You need to figure out a way to 
do something that's really hard.

959
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:33,200
Purdue did it this week? 
They were kind of faltering. 

960
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,300
They want a game at Minnesota. 
Minnesota is not going to the 

961
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,800
college football playoff. 
Like, that's not a great. 

962
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:41,100
T Matt's a good team. 
Go win it. 

963
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,600
We're playing. 
We have a couple of good teams 

964
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,500
like you can be truckers. 
You could beat Maryland, did 

965
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:48,800
home? 
Like those teams are going 

966
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:54,000
undefeated, those teams don't 
have, you know, if possible like

967
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,900
this is where you have to figure
out how to get it done because 

968
00:51:58,100 --> 00:51:59,900
it's just going to be a real 
bummer. 

969
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,400
If you go two years in a row 
losing out, so do something 

970
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,900
different, find a way to win one
of these games. 

971
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:11,700
We'll see what happens with 
Indiana. 

972
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:17,000
Moving forward as they are 3 and
2 and certainly there are 

973
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,600
opportunities for Indiana to win
games moving forward, but a big 

974
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,400
hey, big pot, big fox Friday's 
coming. 

975
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,200
Yeah, being talked about that. 
But this is Vegas, big noon 

976
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,600
Saturday as they call it as yes.
Indiana hosting Michigan. 

977
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:36,200
And well, you know, I mean this 
is where I think all the things 

978
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,000
you just said. 
I mean, I'm sure there's people 

979
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,200
listening who will be Got, they 
haven't lost out yet. 

980
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,300
You're being unfair. 
You're being negative to die to 

981
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,800
die. 
And what I would say though, is,

982
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,900
okay, we've talked about this 
many times. 

983
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:53,000
Indiana has a putrid record 
against Michigan and Ohio State.

984
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,100
Yes, those are better programs 
Indiana's, beaten Michigan. 

985
00:52:56,100 --> 00:53:03,200
Once since 1967, they've beaten 
Ohio State 0 times, since 1989, 

986
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,900
other teams have been able to 
rise to the occasion. 

987
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,100
Occasion at home and figure out 
ways to beat those teams, Ohio 

988
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,600
State, maybe, not quite as much,
but we have seen it happen with 

989
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,200
some and, you know, Michigan is 
certainly a team that's been 

990
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,600
susceptible to getting picked 
off every once in a while. 

991
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,300
This is certainly a better 
Michigan team, but this is the 

992
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:30,400
kind of game where Indiana needs
to come out and play with 

993
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,900
passion and with fire. 
And they at least need to make 

994
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,800
it a difficult game for 
Michigan. 

995
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,900
They need at least need to make 
it a game. 

996
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:42,900
We're Michigan's like, well crap
Indiana's, really brought their 

997
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:47,600
a-plus-plus game to this and 
that's at this point. 

998
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,400
Like, that's, that's what you 
have to. 

999
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:53,300
You almost have to like, say, 
look, Indiana football, we're 

1000
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:56,900
not this bad. 
We have, we have pride in the 

1001
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:59,700
program. 
We have pride in the way that we

1002
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,600
play. 
This is where Indiana has to 

1003
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,400
throw the kitchen sink at things
and and figure stuff out and 

1004
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,300
look. 
So if you think Think we're 

1005
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:13,400
being unfair to the program and 
to the players and the Tom Allen

1006
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:15,600
fine. 
But this is where you have to 

1007
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,700
start actually demonstrating 
things. 

1008
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,300
Not, not not coming back from a 
10%. 

1009
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:25,300
When expectancy to beat Western 
Kentucky at home in overtime. 

1010
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:29,700
Like this is where if you 
actually are in the conversation

1011
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:33,800
for being like a mid tier Big 
Ten team home game homecoming, 

1012
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:37,300
you know, one of the biggest 
games in terms of media Windows,

1013
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:38,900
this is where you have to 
perform. 

1014
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,100
We'll talk about that throughout
the course of the week, you 

1015
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:46,400
know, it's just that again, it 
would be the first time this 

1016
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,700
year that we've really seen 
Indiana over perform and that is

1017
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:53,500
a real concern and it's like not
likely to happen. 

1018
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,700
But this is where again, it's 
like you're talking about the 

1019
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:59,200
salary and you talk about, okay?
This is your job as the head 

1020
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,400
football, coach to figure out 
answers and try to fix these 

1021
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,800
things. 
This is, this is where it 

1022
00:55:03,808 --> 00:55:06,300
happens. 
So let's see what happens, you 

1023
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:10,200
know, it's, it's just funny. 
About me talk about Michigan. 

1024
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,700
We had some friends over last 
night to watch the game, which 

1025
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:17,400
is also tough experience. 
But I was talking about some of 

1026
00:55:17,408 --> 00:55:19,400
the Stadium's. 
I had been to in the Big Ten, 

1027
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,900
like I start saying, I want to 
take my son to more Big Ten 

1028
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:24,200
football stadiums on Snapchat. 
I've been to Michigan not for a 

1029
00:55:24,207 --> 00:55:26,800
game and my friends, like, oh, 
that must have been like, oh, 

1030
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,700
like did you must have hated 
that like being a Michigan's 

1031
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:30,800
like, know what? 
I don't really have hatred 

1032
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,900
toward Michigan because like, 
that's not even we suck and they

1033
00:55:33,908 --> 00:55:36,300
beat us like it's like, it's 
like the old, you know, the joke

1034
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:38,200
about the Red Sox, the Yankees 
back in the day was like 

1035
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,200
hammering, a nail Like we're the
nail, like I probably more 

1036
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,400
annoyed about like Maryland and 
Rutgers like I don't that's like

1037
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,000
be being mad at like the, you 
know, the going to Lambeau. 

1038
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:52,900
It's like I said, that's a 
different League anyway. 

1039
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:54,800
Just it's funny they're like, 
oh, you must hate it. 

1040
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,900
It's like, no. 
Like I really don't have a ton 

1041
00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:59,400
of animosity toward Michigan, 
they're just, they are way 

1042
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,200
better and we don't beat that. 
But to your point, it can be 

1043
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,100
done. 
Like, they are pick off a bowl. 

1044
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,300
I just I don't see any reality 
where that happens, next 

1045
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:11,400
Saturday, but Lets you know, 
hey, let's, let's let's plan for

1046
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,300
it Hope Springs Eternal and 
we'll see what Indiana's able to

1047
00:56:14,308 --> 00:56:17,600
come up with on all of this. 
But anyway, that'll wrap it up 

1048
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,500
for us. 
We'll be back later on this 

1049
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:22,700
week. 
Talk more about IU football and 

1050
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:26,800
we will see what the numbers 
show as Indiana takes on the 

1051
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Michigan Wolverines for 
homecoming. 

1052
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,600
This upcoming week for Scott, 
I'm Galen, thanks for joining us

1053
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,400
here on the show, will be back 
later on in the week. 

1054
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,900
Like I said, be sure to check 
out Crimson cash, which will 

1055
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:41,600
come out on Thursday, and Of the
regular week preview as well. 

1056
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,300
Coming up, we'll catch you. 
Folks on the flip side, bring 

1057
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:46,300
back the Bison, so everybody