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You're listening to the back 
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Crimson, Cask ale and clavius 

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cot Caulfield joining me. 
Here it is Memorial Day weekend 

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even though it's only Thursday 
Scott, I don't know. 

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Know that there's another week 
that's quite, like, Memorial Day

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week, leading in because it of 
all the holidays. 

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I feel like, regardless of most 
of the places you work, there 

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are certainly exceptions. 
This one starts, the earliest 

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and feels like it lasts the 
longest and in a good way, you 

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know, because Fourth of July 
always moves around, you never 

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know, example, sometimes it's on
like a Sunday and that kind of 

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ruins everything and you get 
that with most other holidays, 

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but Memorial Day being a fixed 
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of Summer, it's always on a 
Monday. 

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You're guaranteed, a three day 
weekend. 

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It's not like Labor Day where 
everybody's back in school. 

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It feels like, I mean, you 
almost feel compelled to take 

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two or three extra days off 
before to really stretch it out.

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And especially we're in the 
midwest here you get weather 

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like this and you're like, well 
yes, I'd like to spend as much 

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time outside doing something 
other than work as much as I 

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possibly can. 
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where I'm at right now with 
things about you Yeah, I mean 

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it's just it's too bad if you 
haven't seen the story in the 

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Indy star today. 
It's like, you know, the see 

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Indianapolis in the state of 
Indiana needs five more 

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Memorial. 
So we can lift the black out of 

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Memorial Day so it's like I 
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it but we can because they're 
blacking out the holiday until 

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we get five more Memorial 
lifting. 

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No, it's no, it's great. 
This is the like we've talked 

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about before this is kind of the
end of just an epic run every 

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year of sports that goes from 
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the NFL playoffs to the Super 
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into March Madness into, you 
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the NBA Playoffs into the 
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and Indy 500 and then, and then 
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it's like, after this, it's kind
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summer and now I can kind of, 
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finals and I can check out and 
then, you know, pick back up in 

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the fall. 
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The, as you mentioned, it's the 
tail end of what I've always 

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considered my favorite stretch. 
Sugar of sports. 

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And and it's funny because it 
almost is the end of the NBA and

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NHL playoffs this year too. 
Because, you know, two of the 

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series of already ended in 
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A third one is probably going to
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So we're gonna have this huge 
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the television schedules for 
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So this really does kind of feel
like we're pushing off from the 

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shore and getting into the lake 
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And this is like the last late 
spring thing that will perience.

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And we got such a positive 
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did about doing something on the
Indy 500. 

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Granted, we just kind of you 
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podcast. 
So we wanted to come back and do

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another one where we weren't 
complaining instead talking 

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about the Indy 500, which is 
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know, big race and really should
be a secret. 

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Well, I mean well but you know I
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it's just kind of this thing 
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Here in particular and this is 
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about. 
It is looking like everybody has

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also decided that this is a big 
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participating as Spectators 
really fascinating time. 

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We're looking forward to going 
both of Scott and I are not 

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going together but we're both 
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So we're going to talk about 
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We're going to talk about what 
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the race If You're Expecting IU 
content in this. 

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I'm sorry. 
You're not getting it. 

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We will come back with more IU 
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to talk about because there 
really isn't right now. 

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Now, but we're going to dive 
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So Scott Indy 500 this weekend 

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and we had an interesting 
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weekend as You know, one of the 
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crashes in practice last week. 
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that unfortunately, our luck ran
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we'll talk about in a minute, 
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good qualifying weekend. 
I thought you had some really 

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good speeds. 
You have an incredibly tightly 

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packed field. 
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thought was some compelling 
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the Fast 6, and then you had a 
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Bump our, I guess it was that 
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Graham Rahal ends up kind of 
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attempt and you know, that ended
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visuals and just being a really 
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the way around. 
What was your impression of what

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we saw on qualifying days? 
Both one and two. 

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Yeah, I joked with you before 
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into IndyCar. 
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the right or the wrong thing by 
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this, that is so unique, but 
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what's the format, Mike, we'll 
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We're going to figure out 
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continually change the format 
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Like, it's for something as easy
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to, you know, who are the 
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This goes back years where it 
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pole sitter was on the fastest 
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you're a race fan An IndyCar 
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really good. 
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a great, like three and a half 
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to break it down to 62, then 
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straight into the Fast 6. 
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really, it made sense. 
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they keep this setup again, but 
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It was a, it was wild. 
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seeing, you know, not only 
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know, Jack Harvey doing the 
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we you and I were joking to. 
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you know, it's like, man, you 
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car like Grandma's got, it's 
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1/10 of one second. 
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really small small different 
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in the end, it doesn't matter 
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almost like that's a bizarre 
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team to a Manufacturer like I'm 
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Well seen that before. 
No, I haven't either. 

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I'm sure it's happened. 
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but part but but Sunday was 
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Yeah, no Sunday was great. 
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there's a lot of I guess there's
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I mean, certainly congrats to 
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Climbing the pole. 
Barely Alex pulao. 

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I mean let's talk about a guy 
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You know what, pal? 
Lo has done over the course of 

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the years that he's been an 
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impressive. 
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They get, you know, they get the
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kind of ECR, kind of reminds me 
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I think they really punch above 
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And I would say, I would say, 
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VK. 
I mean, like your Like, you look

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at a guy who is also a man, his 
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I mean, that's, that's a guy who
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He hasn't taken in two finishes.
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but it does feel like VK is 
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driver, and might just need to 
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ask for your arrow McLaren, 
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something we're seeing I think 
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that really I think though, 
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of all, McLaren who ends up with
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after all of these years it's 
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team, kind of formed together 
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competitive. 
And have this sort of a stable 

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of drivers. 
I mean, rosenquist paddle award 

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and Alex Rossi. 
That is a dynamite combination 

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of guys, all who all of them do 
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several several things, 
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really good. 
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probably the one I think that 
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for tracing. 
I mean, to get Santino, ferrucci

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who certainly had a bit of a 
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But, you know, he looked like he
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row. 
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I don't think anybody expected 
to be a competitor ends up in a,

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pretty good qualifying position.
What is he middle of roof for? 

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You know that's a great showing 
for a four-team that frankly has

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been less than an afterthought 
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Now we don't know how that's 

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doing that. 
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I think that that's a team now 
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fifteen that He has a shot at 
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I think that's a great 
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Knowing that team has had, you 
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about this year's. 
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I've liked him for a while he 
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he's kind of unfortunately 
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bottom end teams like he's gone 
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Coin to Rahal Letterman to dryer
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Now, to a.j. foyt, which is kind
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Like, you Circle the Drain and 
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When you hit those five teams, 
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or three years ago where he just
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the day on Saturday. 
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and know. 
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tracing and it's wild to think 
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and Penske is like nowhere to 
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So yeah. 
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And the larger point is, it does
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are big fans of watching the 
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and the 90s on YouTube as we 
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watching those knowing how 
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kind of see this like, the 
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Foie and Mario Andretti, kind of
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seeing them, you know, get 
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see young people, like, you Al 
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and you kind of said, oh this is
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Bobby rahal's like in like 83 is

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like you know qualifying the top
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You see that? 
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in that mode. 
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pulao VK rosenquist for Ruchi 
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Ross. 
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younger generation of guys up at
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feels like it felt like in the 
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like you know willpower but you 
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passion o like former winners. 
A lot of experience kind of in 

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the back. 
End of the feel that it does 

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feel like we're, at that point 
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IndyCar, where you're getting a 
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who will take the sport forward 
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I mean, historically, and even I
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the races, the last 10 to 15 
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bird and that's something that I
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relatively new to Indy car and 
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like going fast in qualifying, 
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It's one piece of the puzzle. 
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sort of speed but race trim and 
setting the car. 

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The actual race is very 
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Penske like they didn't, they 
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barely get willpower in the fast
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slowest of those cars. 
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is, you know, got McLaughlin but
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Machinery wasn't great for 
qualifying, has such an airtight

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operation in terms of the pits 
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teams that do qualify well who 
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terms of their pits and there's 
Strategy. 

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Just not as we worry about with 
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Like yeah, absolutely fruit. 
You going to be great and then 

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like have like a stop or they 
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something, but it's also the so 
much of this race is about luck,

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you know? 
It's like the Graham Rahal 

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thing. 
What was it? 

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Was it last year or two years 
ago where he's looking like, one

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of the favorites is the race is 
going on and I just randomly 

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gets hit by a tire and and he's 
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And you know, there's a couple 
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know, Conor Daly as been up 
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apart. 
Some of that. 

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Is just luck and as much as we 
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basically assign credit based 
upon results. 

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I don't think that you can watch
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and honestly say that the 
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every race or the best team won 
every race. 

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A lot of times, it's just who 
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right time. 
Who avoided the accident? 

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Who-who's pit strategy that they
just randomly decided upon Not 

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randomly, but decided upon an on
lap 50 based upon what was going

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on actually ended up working 
out. 

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Because there's this, there's 
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The Indy 500 is essentially, the
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it's just a random number 
generator is really the best way

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to think about it. 
Like you do not know what the 

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next thing is that's going to 
happen and so you make the best 

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decisions based upon what you 
see at the time and even taking 

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stuff, Pit Crews and and stop 
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Out of it. 
It's something sometimes. 

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It's as simple as where were you
on the track when a yellow flag 

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came out, you know, we're you 
did you get into pits before 

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they close them? 
Did did somebody in front of you

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check up and you end up having 
to go and, you know, the wrong 

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direction and it scrubs your 
speed off. 

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Or does it hurt your tires? 
There's just so many random 

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variables that, you know, you 
all you can do is put your car 

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in a position where if you can 
survive and not crash and not be

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in a position where you have a 
mechanical failure, Or to be in 

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a spot to do something towards 
the end of the race. 

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We've just seen that time and 
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watch these qualifying results 
and I thought the drama was 

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sufficient. 
Shall we say on Saturday and 

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Sunday? 
But it is something, go ahead. 

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No. 
And back to that like any, I'm 

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assuming most people who are 
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you know, in to Indy cars. 
So I'm not going to talk down. 

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But, you know, this is where I 
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ganassi has been doing, has had 
so much has been able to do. 

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So well in the race I think for 
them and arrow McLaren is going 

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to have a good Sunday because 
you know ganassi does a great 

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job of like they bifurcates our 
strategy. 

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So as you said like you know you
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it's like 70 laps left. 
It's like all right do we stop? 

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You know the yellow flag and 
it's like it's almost like a 

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Choose Your Own Adventure. 
Like all right do we pit here 

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and hopefully you know, you know
that's kind of how Rossi were 

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not how he won but like in 2016 
when he won the hundred, that's 

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like a lot of teams were not 
doing fuelsave. 

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He did fuel-saving, it turned 
out You'll say was the right 

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answer. 
We're ganassi has this this this

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great pieces like they have so 
many cars up front that you can 

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basically take a couple of 
FrontRunner make. 

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All right, pillows, get to know 
when you Choose Your Own 

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Adventure at that point said, 
all right, we'll do pulao one 

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side and do Dixon the other and 
it's like they kind of are 

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covered on both faces. 
That's where it hurts teams like

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Carpenter and weird to say 
Penske because it's like you 

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don't have that many cars up 
front. 

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You only got one dice and so you
got one shot. 

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It's like willpower is going to 
take our one strategy and we'll 

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see where it goes and everybody 
else. 

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I kind of have to go with it and
so that that's what I think is 

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interesting is how this broke is
you basically have two teams and

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ganassi and arrow. 
McLaren were it's like all 

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right. 
We each team has a couple of 

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fast cars and they can basically
start breaking up strategies and

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cover. 
All you basically put bets on 

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the entire crap table. 
It's like no matter what 

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happens. 
We'll have one of those cars on 

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that strategy. 
Let's talk a little bit about 

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the incident that happened this 
week. 

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Obviously unfortunate incident 
all the way around a chain 

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reaction of checkups, and and 
things like that. 

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Leads to Stephen Wilson, having 
to get into the brakes, which 

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leads to Katherine Legge to end 
up, hitting Wilson in the back 

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and Wilson ends up breaking a 
vertebrae and has to go in for 

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surgery. 
The surgery was successful just 

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happened yesterday. 
So Wilson, not going to be 

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racing, they end up putting G. 
Rahal in the car which you 

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mentioned earlier. 
First of all, just you just hate

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to see that for Stephen Wilson, 
you know all the guys you know 

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his brother passes away in a 
IndyCar race was at 66 years ago

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I think it was now and you know 
he's kind of been on the fringes

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of competing with teams and you 
just you hate to see that be a 

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factor in anything and it's not 
that usual you know, to have a 

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driver knocked. 
Like that the week before the 

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race after qualifying happens. 
It does happen occasionally, but

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certainly, our thoughts with 
him, and hopefully his recovery 

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is Speedy is able to get back in
the car at some point soon. 

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It's all so weird with these, 
I've always found it. 

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Interesting with these wrecks 
were like, you know, it looked 

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like both the cars had the same 
impact that's like the capitol 

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leg walks away. 
And Stephen does it. 

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And that that's just, that is 
IndyCar, but I'm always amazed 

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at that. 
We're both cars, just smack the 

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wall, and it's like that, you 
know, we're kind of accustomed. 

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Like everyone is getting up and 
walking out, and it's weird that

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That anyway, you know, I agree 
with you. 

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There's no other way, it sucks, 
but it is, it was odd with like 

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I joke with you. 
Like well, you know, because you

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know when grammar hell didn't 
make us a car? 

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Well, he's gonna take Katherine 
Legge spot because they're on 

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the same team, you know. 
It's like I said earlier it's 

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just I've no I can't remember a 
situation where a driver changes

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teams and changes in your 
engine, manufacturers. 

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That's something again. 
If you're not initiated this a 

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lot of these guys and I don't 
know exactly the affiliation but

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I know a lot of these you know 
to misato Is a Honda driver. 

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Like he'd he has, you know, 
connections with Honda that he 

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will not drive a Chevy and so 
sometimes the engine 

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manufacturer connection is even 
deeper than the team connection.

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So to see Graham Rahal do all 
that and also leave the team 

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that he's like, oh oh yeah the 
namesake of its it is it is what

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the way he's been talking look. 
It's like the first step in a 

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journey he was already planning 
on taking but yeah, it's The 

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end. 
It's interesting. 

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We can talk about it now. 
Like this will all lead to 

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nothing because he was slow and 
you know, unfortunately just he 

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was having a rough go of it. 
And it's not like Stephen 

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Wilson's car was like he's not 
going into the pole sitting car 

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like that was like probably 
gonna be that. 

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So yeah, yeah, but just to 
clarify because I wanted to get 

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the day try. 
Justin Wilson's accident was in 

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2015 which It seems impossible 
that it was eight years ago, but

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here we are. 
But yeah. 

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No, the real thing is 
fascinating, I mean, you know, 

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there was something Walk. 
After Rahal was bumped it. 

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First of all, we need to talk 
about that because you and I 

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went back and forth on this on 
text, we're watching The Bump 

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Day broadcast and you know 
there's that our where you've 

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got the four cars trying to 
qualify and you know the all 

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four cars go out and make an 
early attempt and Jack Harvey is

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in last. 
And they make the the 

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broadcasters are really focused 
on these comments like well you 

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know, you can't just take the 
car back out again, the car's 

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got a cool down and You've got 
to get the Machinery where it's 

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at and if you don't, you're just
not going to get the speed and 

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this is something that they're 
repeating consistently over the 

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course of the next 30 minutes 
because there's nothing 

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happening. 
And then right Harvey gets in 

443
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his car goes out, doesn't 
qualify on that attempt, brings 

444
00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:40,800
it in and then his out three 
minutes later for a final shot 

445
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,200
and does qualify. 
And I'm just, I'm still a little

446
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,300
bit baffled because as much time
as they spent talking about the 

447
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:52,200
need to cool the car down. 
They made no mention of it. 

448
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,500
When Harvey takes a hot car back
out on the track and qualifies 

449
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,600
and it's kind of like, I mean, 
you do need that, we know that 

450
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,100
you have to cools, cool, the 
cars down but I'm fascinated. 

451
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:07,300
How that went from being a key 
plot point of the broadcast to 

452
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,100
being a non plot point of the 
fact that Harvey went out and 

453
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,200
qualified now they got all 
consumed obviously with the 

454
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,500
grammar, a whole piece of this. 
But I mean, do you have any 

455
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,700
clear sense now than you did at 
the time? 

456
00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:22,500
Scott about, like, Like why 
that's suddenly became less of 

457
00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:25,400
an issue than they claim that it
was no and did. 

458
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,300
You're the one who teaches 
broadcasting say this is more 

459
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,000
you. 
But it I've often thought about 

460
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,700
this too. 
Like I've been at the Indy 500 

461
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:34,300
where they red flag the race, 
they stopped the cars, and then 

462
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:36,600
they restart the cars, and then 
they go. 

463
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,000
And it's like, it's funny 
because like I was telling you, 

464
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,900
it's like they they treat quiet 
and again, I understand 

465
00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:45,000
qualifying Trim in the cars are 
set up differently in the race, 

466
00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:48,900
but it's not like their 
qualifying jeeps and racing and 

467
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:52,500
Ferraris like they actually Like
the qualifying car is this like 

468
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:55,800
unbelievably High tune piece and
it's like, you know, next week 

469
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,400
these cars are going 500 Miles, 
there's going to run the hell 

470
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,900
out of these things. 
It's like, but no, from a 

471
00:24:00,908 --> 00:24:02,700
broadcasting point. 
It was interesting because 

472
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,700
they're building this up at you 
can't do it. 

473
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:05,800
You can't do it. 
You can't do it. 

474
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,600
And then he does it. 
And like I said, there's no 

475
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,600
mention, not even like a point 
where like, oh my God, he's 

476
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,700
doing this on a hot car. 
Like you think that at some 

477
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:15,100
point Townsend Bell would yell 
like it's a hot car. 

478
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,700
This is amazing. 
We never see this. 

479
00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:20,500
That's like oh yeah, like he did
it like way to go, like the guy.

480
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,500
The gut and then it all becomes 
about the gut and the guile and 

481
00:24:23,508 --> 00:24:26,900
it's like, I don't I think he 
just probably like to hit the 

482
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,800
corner right one time better 
than he did last time. 

483
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,300
Like you're talking about. 
Tiny differences. 

484
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:36,300
Yeah, but then it's also wild. 
It was like, 30 years after 

485
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:39,100
Bobby Rahal. 
Yeah, didn't didn't make the 

486
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,900
race, which I was a Bobby Rahal 
fan. 

487
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,000
That the first race I went to 
was 86. 

488
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,300
And so that was kind of just 
like, oh, that's my guide. 

489
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,700
Little did I know I should have 
picked. 

490
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,600
Somebody else was gonna smell 
like, I, I remember just 

491
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,500
distinctly going to the race of 
my dad 93 and there were cut out

492
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,900
like real. 
Had a huge campaign that you're 

493
00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:59,700
think that's his first year in 
the Miller Lite car. 

494
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,100
He had just won the series the 
year before and like they were 

495
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,800
cut outs of him with like I'm 
Bud, Lotto Miller light displays

496
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,600
everywhere and the people were 
just putting stickers, like, not

497
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,500
making it or like, with a speech
bubble, I, where Emma is, I 

498
00:25:10,508 --> 00:25:12,100
remember that. 
It's just wild the, the 

499
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,900
connections that do kind of 
happen were 30 years. 

500
00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:18,000
After his dad doesn't make it g,
doesn't doesn't make it but then

501
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,500
makes it. 
Yeah, I mean, I mean it's it's 

502
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,900
so the whole thing plays out in 
this kind of interesting way 

503
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:30,100
where you've got. 
Now, a situation where the you 

504
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:34,300
know, gray a lot of thought was 
rails going to buy his way in 

505
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,600
Allah, Ryan hunter-reay, a 
decade ago. 

506
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,000
And a lot of people were looking
at Catherine legs car and is 

507
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,200
like yeah that's probably gonna 
end up being real Scar and do 

508
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600
rails credit. 
He said I'm not going to do that

509
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:47,200
and then it ended up not 
mattering. 

510
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:49,600
But as you mentioned, kind of 
unprecedented the way that all 

511
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,800
this came together In terms of 
transferring got a lot of people

512
00:25:53,800 --> 00:26:00,600
I don't think fully grasp how 
proprietary these relationships 

513
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:06,100
are in terms of sponsors in 
terms of engines and 

514
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:10,200
manufacturers and whatnot. 
It's it is very unique, you 

515
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,100
know, look it's good that you 
get Graham Rahal in the race 

516
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:18,700
obviously even if he's going to 
be in a backup car that hasn't 

517
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:21,900
seen action in quite a while, It
might end up being a better 

518
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,100
thing than the car that he was 
driving, because that car 

519
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:28,700
clearly was not up to par, but 
it is kind of a weird scenario. 

520
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:33,500
And I'm not sure that we'll see 
something like that again, in 

521
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:38,500
the future simply because it's, 
at some point, manufacturers, I 

522
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:41,000
will just get to a point where 
it's like, Well, we'd rather not

523
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,300
but that said, there really 
weren't a lot of other options 

524
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:46,300
because the interesting thing 
was, you know, Jr. 

525
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,700
Hildebrand was getting talked 
about quite a bit as a potential

526
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:50,900
replacement, but because he 
hadn't run any Pop's. 

527
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,400
He was going to have to go do 
essentially a Shakedown set of 

528
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,200
laps to even demonstrate that he
was able to handle the car. 

529
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,300
I mean, I think it would have 
been fine, but who's going to be

530
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:04,800
really complicated to try to get
all that in before Carb Day? 

531
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,400
And so, this ends up being the 
best solution. 

532
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,800
I'm glad they were able to 
figure out a way to make it 

533
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,900
work. 
The last thing I'll say on this 

534
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:15,000
and I mention this in one of our
discourse, it's like think this 

535
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,100
is what I love IndyCar because 
little things come out. 

536
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:19,000
Wait, what? 
Wait, like I wish there was more

537
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,900
explanation like they're Going 
to the Dreyer & Reinbold about 

538
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,300
that, you know, the backup car 
that g going to be racing in 

539
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:25,600
there. 
Like oh yeah, we gotta set it up

540
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,300
like we had it in the shop. 
We just had a go-kart engine in 

541
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:30,900
it and like that that was it. 
That was the whole quote. 

542
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,900
It's like wait why do you have a
backup Indy car with a go kart 

543
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:34,900
has? 
I guess maybe you're just like 

544
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:37,800
see if it can move around. 
That's like that's like the 

545
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,200
difference between go-kart 
engine and the Indy car engine. 

546
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Like it's just like I'd love to 
know more like what are you 

547
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,700
doing with these backup cars? 
Are you digging around on a 

548
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,500
go-kart track? 
Like well you know I mean 

549
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,900
looking at Lewis Hamilton out 
there talking about how To drive

550
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,600
a vintage Indy car. 
Maybe this is like a preliminary

551
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,400
plan for that for like twenty 
thirty six or something, I don't

552
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,400
know. 
But now, look, I mean, I think 

553
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,200
what he's thinking vintage is 
not thinking of Dreyer & 

554
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,300
Reinbold backup car. 
But yes, yeah, you know, I mean 

555
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,600
anyway, so I'm glad that 
everything worked out and I'm 

556
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,000
glad that that real ends up 
being in the race. 

557
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,100
It'll probably be the last time 
we talked about Graham further 

558
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,900
for the day so now we can go 
back up to the front of the 

559
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:17,000
Rhino kidding. 
So so anyway, let's let's let's 

560
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:23,100
talk about the race itself. 
I don't really know what to 

561
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,800
expect out of this. 
I mean, I think clearly, you 

562
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,200
have to look at either the 
ganassi or McLaren teams and say

563
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600
the likelihood is the winners 
probably going to come from one 

564
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,100
of those two teams because both 
of them are running really well 

565
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,100
right now and just in general, 
in the series, both of them 

566
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,500
ganassi, especially has, you 
know, really fine-tuned 

567
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:48,400
operation. 
And when you look at what, 

568
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,400
you're likely to see is the 
race. 

569
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:54,500
Goes long. 
I think that, you know, the cars

570
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,500
out of those teams that are in 
the top 12 and then you got six 

571
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:02,500
total out of those two. 
You got pulao Dixon Erickson, 

572
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,900
rosenquist actually got seven. 
I'm sorry, award Rossi and then 

573
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:09,100
Tony kanaan who people are kind 
of forgotten about is on the 

574
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:13,100
outside of Row 3. 
Like that is a tremendous 

575
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:17,500
collection of drivers, you know,
you've got Sato trying to, you 

576
00:29:17,508 --> 00:29:20,400
know, pull off the weird kind of
Bobby Unser ish. 

577
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:24,200
You know, three wins sort of 
thing you've got can on trying 

578
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600
to pull off a second one. 
You've got two completely 

579
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,400
different setups there. 
In terms of, you know, of engine

580
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,800
manufacturers, obviously ganassi
running Honda's. 

581
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,900
You've got McLaren running, 
Chevy's, we haven't really seen.

582
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,200
I didn't notice a whole lot of 
difference, at least in 

583
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,100
qualifying, trim between those. 
But, you know, Scott, I think 

584
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,600
the thing to me, that's 
overriding just how close this 

585
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,300
field is in terms of 
demonstrated speed thus far. 

586
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,500
Yes, I think the little details 
will probably But I don't know 

587
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,500
that there's, like, a clear 
honest to God. 

588
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,600
Like, you know, bet your farm 
on, you know, a particular 

589
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200
driver option here. 
Not because I don't think pulao 

590
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,300
or, you know, one of these other
teams is likely to win. 

591
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,400
But with the cars all this 
close, I really do have some 

592
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,900
questions about like we may get 
a really unexpected winner out 

593
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,900
of this simply because there's 
not a whole lot distinguishing 

594
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,300
these teams in terms of what 
their cars can do. 

595
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:24,200
Do at their top end. 
No and it's been that way for a 

596
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,400
couple of years and it does seem
to come down to like last year 

597
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,100
it's like Scott Dixon. 
Just misses the pit speed 

598
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,300
limiter. 
It's like that. 

599
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,100
Opens it up for Marcus Eriksen. 
I want it real quick hit on 

600
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,800
cannot and Sato because I think 
they're interesting because 

601
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,500
obviously everybody's trying to 
win the 500 but you do get these

602
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,000
scenarios where it's like you 
know to you know the definitely 

603
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200
always a Penske thing like two 
teammates are going for. 

604
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,400
It's like they go for it but as 
also like even ten laps left, 

605
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600
you kind of see Team. 
Happening. 

606
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,300
Like all right. 
Like, you know, you know passion

607
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:57,900
was our best shot, you know. 
Pageant is gonna go for it. 

608
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:00,500
Kind of thing. 
It's interesting that you have 

609
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:04,000
a, you know, normally you have 
the guys like the former winners

610
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,100
race in their last time or kind 
of like in the Elio passion of 

611
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,500
Kapoor, they're kind of in a 
third-rate team. 

612
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,100
So, two speakers kind of off to 
the side. 

613
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:15,000
Like you have kanaan and Sado 
with two of the top teams it, 

614
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,400
you know, ganassi at Arrow 
McLaren, but, you know, they Try

615
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,500
to think of the right way to say
this, but like those two guys, 

616
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:23,700
it's going to be interesting if 
they're in it near the end 

617
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,600
because not that like people do 
team orders and just you know, 

618
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,500
let somebody else win the 500. 
But those guys are gonna be 

619
00:31:29,508 --> 00:31:31,800
like, who cares? 
If you're can on like one of the

620
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,800
best audios from his win in 
2013, was when it's like the 

621
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,000
last lap and he's just like, hey
man, I'm going for. 

622
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,500
It's All or Nothing. 
Like okay Tony but it sounds 

623
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,700
good. 
Like if your toe if your earring

624
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:44,700
with Claire and you're like, hey
like you know you and Rossi. 

625
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,800
You're like if I'm Tony has 
turned the radio off like I 

626
00:31:46,808 --> 00:31:48,800
don't care what you have to say.
Like, I know. 

627
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:50,900
What I have to do and I don't 
give a shit. 

628
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:53,300
If feeling broken rosenquist is 
on the strategy. 

629
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:54,500
Like I'm doing what I got to do 
it. 

630
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:57,200
So I think that's really 
interesting that I think they 

631
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,300
they could go Rogue in an 
interesting way where it's like 

632
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:03,700
Sato and kanaan don't care about
the season, they just care about

633
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,800
winning a 500. 
Whereas again rosenquist wants 

634
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,900
to win but he's also got like a 
full-time ride this year. 

635
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,700
Yeah I find that really 
interesting. 

636
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,800
You know you sent out a there's 
a Google doc that's on the 

637
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Reddit that's just fascinating 
with just like That's it's funny

638
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,700
like there's not a lot of places
to go get IndyCar staff. 

639
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:25,000
Well yeah, this is and palm. 
Yeah, of Indy car. 

640
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,200
But you know when you look at 
the winds by Rose, you know, it 

641
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,000
drops off pretty quick but the 
fourth row, you know, you get 

642
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,400
ten wins in the first row 
obviously, although it just 

643
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,400
never feels like that really 
ever happens even though it 

644
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,100
happens a lot. 
But like the fourth row has the 

645
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,300
most number of wins outside of 
the front row. 

646
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:47,100
So if you look at the fourth row
this year, you have sorry. 

647
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,600
It's a yeah. 
Ed Carpenter, Ed Carpenter, 

648
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,900
Scott McLaughlin. 
Oh, I'm sorry, Marcus Marcus 

649
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,400
Ericsson Benjamin Peterson, and 
willpower and willpower, you 

650
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,900
know, so you look at that as 
like, it's weird because I just 

651
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,900
did maybe power because of the 
team with Penske if you're 

652
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,500
looking at Row 4. 
But I'm with you, I think this 

653
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,800
is going to. 
Here's my thing with the 500 is 

654
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,200
that, unfortunately, it's gotten
to a place where, you know, we 

655
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600
don't want to see, Rex, I'm not 
there to see Rex, but if there's

656
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,500
not a yellow in the first five 
or six, Apps. 

657
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,100
Unfortunately what happens is 
it? 

658
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,800
Kind of turns into. 
All right, we're through that. 

659
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,400
Now, let's wait to lap 160 to do
anything and that's 

660
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,400
unfortunately we're this is kind
of gone. 

661
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Is you get a lot of Follow? 
The Leader for 150 laps, and 

662
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,100
then everyone kind of figures it
out with 60 to go but you know 

663
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,200
and what you'll have is a couple
people will drop out because of 

664
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,500
mistakes, things like that. 
Unfortunately, it always seems 

665
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:46,900
to be like the rinas VK is the 
ferrucci based on, you know, the

666
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:50,700
team's not able to execute pit 
stops correctly and then guys 

667
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:53,600
get shuffled back so that that's
right. 

668
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
But then it's also happy. 
It also happened like Scott 

669
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Dixon where it's like yo he 
couldn't figure out the pit 

670
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,300
speed and you end up with a 
situation where a guy who 

671
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:03,300
probably should have won the 
race. 

672
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,200
Didn't what I think is 
fascinating alongside of all 

673
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,300
that. 
We've had four different teams 

674
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:14,000
win the last four races, you 
know, in 2019 the last precoded 

675
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,100
race Penske wins with passion. 
Oh Sato wins. 

676
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,900
The Laid race in 2020 and he's 
driving for Rahal Letterman 

677
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:25,000
Lanigan. 
Then obviously two years ago, 

678
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,400
Elio wins and he's driving for 
Meyer shank and then last year 

679
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,199
Erickson wins with ganassi, you 
know? 

680
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,000
So this is where the McLaren 
things really interesting to me 

681
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
because it would be fascinating 
and I think maybe the first time

682
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000
in a while that we would have 
five different teams winning at 

683
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,699
500 in a row, you know, I mean, 
I think it happened a lot more 

684
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:49,500
back in like the, the 70s and 
80s, but You look back. 

685
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,400
I mean, you go back to 2004 it's
like it's real, then and ready. 

686
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,400
Then Penske then and ready, then
can ask you then Penske, then 

687
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,700
get a d then you get a c then 
heard up / and ready, then 

688
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:05,600
ganassi, then KV racing which 
was cannons Andretti Penske and 

689
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,100
ready and ready Penske Penske. 
But that beauty that lasts pesky

690
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:11,800
is where we get this run of 
different teams and so I am 

691
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,300
going to be really fascinated, 
you know, in the team seems so 

692
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:18,700
close. 
Especially those top three top 

693
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:20,800
Four teams in terms of what 
they've been able to do in 

694
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,400
qualifying. 
But this is where I look at foyt

695
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,300
and I'm like, well on the one 
hand, you can say voice. 

696
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:29,000
Probably, you know those those 
two drivers probably are able to

697
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,700
measure up for the whole race, 
but I don't know that anybody 

698
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,900
would have gone in, you know, 
and said for, you know, yeah, 

699
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:37,200
sure. 
Meyer Shanks, going to run 200 

700
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,700
laps and be able to successfully
hold off Penske at the end. 

701
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,100
And yet that's exactly what 
happened that. 

702
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,300
So your comment about like it is
not an early yellow, I'm also 

703
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:50,300
really fascinated to see, you 
know, Know what exactly does 

704
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:56,000
happen in terms of how the 
climate of the day affects the 

705
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,500
race cars in the first that 
first stretched before the, the 

706
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:01,200
pits that happen, which will 
Norm. 

707
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600
I think it normally happens like
like between iCloud left, 30, 

708
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,200
and 35, when we're going to have
different climatological 

709
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,900
conditions for this particular 
race. 

710
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:13,600
I mean, right now, I think it's 
going to be a little bit 

711
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,800
overcast, which will certainly 
help in terms of track 

712
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,500
condition, but we don't totally 
know. 

713
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,600
We know the temperature is going
to be in the low. 80s which 

714
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,400
isn't ideal in terms of fast. 
So, does that actually 

715
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,500
disadvantage some of the top 
teams whose biggest advantages 

716
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,700
that they have? 
A slightly better amount of 

717
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,200
speed on the straightaways? 
Does that bring everybody down a

718
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,100
little bit to a little lower 
level. 

719
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,700
That's going to be a really 
interesting thing to watch. 

720
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:38,600
And that's where I think some of
the teams that haven't won races

721
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,000
so far, either an indie or this 
year, might have a puncher's 

722
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,900
chance where they might not have
otherwise. 

723
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,200
Yeah, it's interesting. 
As your mentioned, the team's 

724
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,700
there it is. 
It is interesting, the team. 

725
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,500
We haven't talked about yet and 
it's kind of fallen into this 

726
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:54,800
weird middle spot is Andretti, 
Autosport, whatever. 

727
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000
It's just like they're not bad, 
they're not good. 

728
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,300
They're just, they're kind of 
eating up laps, which is wild 

729
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:03,800
because Colton, Herta has been 
unbelievably fast because he's 

730
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:08,100
started fifth tenth seconds and 
now he's starting 25th and it 

731
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,500
just feels like Andretti. 
Autosport is just like they're 

732
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,300
they're not anywhere. 
There's right in the middle and 

733
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,600
you it doesn't feel like they're
even going to be a threat to be 

734
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,700
bad or good on Sunday. 
Yeah. 

735
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,600
That is, it's not a surprise 
given what's happened with 

736
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Andretti? 
I mean you know what are we on 

737
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,800
now the last time and ready one 
of 500 was Sato in 2017 you 

738
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800
know. 
And they had one at that point, 

739
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:35,800
three of the last four races 
with with hunter-reay and of in 

740
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000
14 and then Rossi with the fuel 
strategy win and 16. 

741
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,800
So I do Wonder a little bit 
like, you know, do they have 

742
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,100
something up their sleeve 
because you know, the one thing 

743
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,100
you can say About 180 is that 
they do know how to run. 

744
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,400
Indie, like, they, they probably
more so than Penske even though 

745
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,700
it hasn't shown up in the winds 
have at least been competitive. 

746
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,100
They've managed to figure out a 
way to get their cars in the top

747
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:01,900
10. 
And this might be the race where

748
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:05,900
that ends up being a worthwhile 
approach as opposed to trying to

749
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:07,600
lead and trying to get yourself 
out there. 

750
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:10,200
I need to update the weather 
forecast because it's got two 

751
00:38:10,207 --> 00:38:12,300
changes. 
Every time I check the weather 

752
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:19,100
app so now that no no 77. 
Now the projected high with And 

753
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,900
East Northeast East Wind at 8 
miles an hour. 

754
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:25,500
Gusting to 15, we have not had a
race day like this in quite a 

755
00:38:25,508 --> 00:38:29,000
while where there's a breeze of 
note and the temperatures under 

756
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,100
80 degrees that'll be a cooler 
track, especially when the race 

757
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,600
starts, then when it finishes 
because, you know, it's probably

758
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,400
not going to get into the upper 
70s until the latter stages of 

759
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,900
the race, which is going to 
throw some other monkey wrenches

760
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,200
into the process in terms of you
know, not Nest, not just Tire 

761
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,100
degradation. 
But the cars are going to 

762
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,400
legitimately change the way that
they A handle on the track as 

763
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,800
the track gets warmer over time 
and then you got the wind along 

764
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,100
side of that. 
You know, that's, that's always 

765
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,100
a little bit of a challenge, 
especially in the back of the 

766
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,300
pack where you have a bunch of 
drivers, who haven't necessarily

767
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:03,600
gotten a lot of experience 
racing it in the, in those 

768
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000
conditions, I have a question 
for you. 

769
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,400
This is something, you know, for
a while there in the mid 2010's 

770
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,600
you had a spot where like Dario 
was winning a lot. 

771
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,300
Dan Wheldon had one, 
unfortunately passed away, but 

772
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,700
One of the races there was only 
like two former winners or three

773
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:24,900
former winners in a race just 
because everything was like 

774
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,900
Dixon and Dario as like the same
guys were winning and then like 

775
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,100
guys like Sam Hornish jr. 
Would win and leave. 

776
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:34,700
This is, I don't know the most 
number of former winners in a 

777
00:39:34,707 --> 00:39:36,400
field, but this has got to be up
there. 

778
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,900
Pretty close. 
You have nine former winners in 

779
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:42,400
the field. 
I'm curious to ask you, do you 

780
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,600
think that's like, almost a 
third of the field? 

781
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Do you think we see a repeat 
winner or a new winner this 

782
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,000
year? 
I would put money if those are 

783
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,400
my binary options, I would put 
money on a new winner, you know?

784
00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,100
I you know, the the drivers that
I am, I think most attuned to 

785
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:04,000
our pulao, it feels like 
everything's kind of coming 

786
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,600
together. 
I felt the same way about 

787
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,700
passion o back in 2019 it's just
got that a similar sort of vibe.

788
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,700
You know I think Pat award is 
another driver that I really 

789
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:18,100
feel like the vibe is there for 
him. 

790
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,300
You know, honestly I think 
rosenquist is, is the third one.

791
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:26,200
And I feel like to some degree 
Erickson winning last year, has 

792
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,900
kind of made people forget that 
rosenquist is also a really good

793
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:31,400
driver. 
You know, if you're going to 

794
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,700
compare like you know Nordic 
drivers in IndyCar, I almost 

795
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,600
feel like he's kind of Fallen 
under the radar a little bit as 

796
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,300
much as one can sitting on the 
outside of Row one. 

797
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:46,800
But look I also think you know 
if you wanted me to grab a 

798
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,100
driver from the last two, 
Two-thirds of the field. 

799
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,800
I'm really fascinated with Kyle 
Kirkwood's chances in this race 

800
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,700
that mean that's a guy who's had
a really good season so far. 

801
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:00,000
He is kind of young enough that 
I don't think he knows what he 

802
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,800
doesn't know and that often 
times you watch enough IndyCar 

803
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600
over the years it's almost 
easier to win when you're not 

804
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,000
overthinking the track and I 
think he's still young enough 

805
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,200
that he's in that mode and you 
know, frankly he's probably the 

806
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,600
best I would say he's maybe the 
best option of that. 

807
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,700
Gaming group of race car 
drivers. 

808
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:24,800
I was I was really thinking that
grosjean might be a good choice 

809
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,400
here, but it just doesn't feel 
like the month has gone. 

810
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,800
Well for him and bad vibes. 
Rarely do do drivers and teams 

811
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,100
that are having that bad vibes 
do particularly well in this 

812
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:37,700
race. 
Bad luck, seems to follow you 

813
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:40,400
around and good luck seems to do
the same. 

814
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,200
So those are kind of what I'm 
thinking, but I, you know, I 

815
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600
wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't 
be shocked if we saw Dixon or 

816
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,500
Rossi or Sato, or cannot or 
Erickson win or willpower for 

817
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:54,100
that matter if we're looking at 
the, the top four rows, but I 

818
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:56,300
just had a sneaking suspicion 
that we're going to get a new 

819
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,900
winner this year. 
I would agree with you. 

820
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:01,300
I think you hit all the targets.
There's not much more to say the

821
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:02,600
other. 
This is what I do best on. 

822
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,800
This podcast is take all of 
Scott's material. 

823
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,200
So yeah, so let me, let's talk 
about Christian long guard, a 

824
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,100
little bit. 
Give me some David malukas 

825
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,300
thoughts, come on. 
I was actually looking at 

826
00:42:13,308 --> 00:42:14,600
malukas, I went to the race in 
St. 

827
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,500
Louis last year with my son and 
malukas like finished third, 

828
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:20,500
like he's been really good. 
Nobles, but this gets us to 

829
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:23,000
another binary discussion. 
You have an Indy car is Honda 

830
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,600
versus Chevy and outside of 
ganassi the rest of the field 

831
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,400
that's Honda is in the back of 
the field. 

832
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,500
Yeah. 
Like there's definitely an issue

833
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,600
with Honda unless you are a 
ganassi team and so as I was 

834
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,800
looking at malukas, like I think
there's a world where he has the

835
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,100
talent to do really well on an 
oval and he's been fast on these

836
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:46,900
ovals but I just don't know if a
Honda team that isn't ganassi is

837
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,500
going to be able to get there 
and so You look at like her to 

838
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,600
like I think heard is good, but 
it's just, you the back half of 

839
00:42:51,607 --> 00:42:56,200
the field, you go to row, you 
know, six on it's all Honda's 

840
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
except for Graham Rahal on are 
seeing Orson and that's not a 

841
00:42:58,607 --> 00:43:00,200
good thing. 
Well, and that's that's the one.

842
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,100
That's why Kirkwood was the one 
that I spotted because I mean he

843
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:06,900
was the one that qualified his 
Honda best and I don't know. 

844
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:11,600
I mean, I would, I would 
probably lean, you know, like I 

845
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,200
said, either a ganassi car or 
somebody driving a Chevy. 

846
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,300
I mean, if you're looking down 
the road, this is where Penske 

847
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,300
Has a bit of an advantage in 
that your they're running, 

848
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,100
they're running Chevy, so I 
wouldn't be shocked. 

849
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:26,600
If they were able to put 
something together, that we 

850
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
aren't necessarily expecting 
based upon their qualifying 

851
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,700
position, but I will do that. 
I will look at all look at like,

852
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,200
you know, New Garden because I 
think New Garden has run. 

853
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,700
Well, here, it feels like he's 
hitting a bit of a lull in the 

854
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:44,400
last two years where he was, he 
was starting front row for a 

855
00:43:44,408 --> 00:43:47,300
couple of years there and then 
he's kind of got falling off. 

856
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,000
Pace. 
He is the, you know, 

857
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,000
third-highest Penske, I think 
McLaughlin is run pretty well 

858
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,100
too, but New Garden is kind of 
in that point is when he's won a

859
00:43:55,107 --> 00:43:57,100
championship, he's won some 
races. 

860
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,000
You know, the last thing on his 
bucket list is kind of Indie and

861
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:04,400
I think this is a race that he 
obviously that he that he wants.

862
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,000
But you know I would look at 
that McLaughlin newgarden combo 

863
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,700
as you know they're going to 
have that Penske machine behind 

864
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,100
him. 
But the thing is that new Garden

865
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,100
is kind of their their number 
one driver even though power. 

866
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,900
Race. 
The fastest, you know, New 

867
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:24,000
Garden is kind of the number one
driver on that team most years 

868
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,900
in and out. 
I think it was got the guys 

869
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,800
always pissed. 
And so I would, I would look at 

870
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,500
New Garden to is just somebody 
who's interested. 

871
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,400
You know, go for it, by the way,
gambling on the 500s fun. 

872
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,500
Like just go ahead and bet on 
like three or four different 

873
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:37,600
winners. 
There's sometimes FanDuel have 

874
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,400
like you can bet the different 
thirds and you can normally find

875
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,400
a couple of things where the 
odds are definitely in your 

876
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,300
favor, especially some like you 
know, this driver that. 

877
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:49,800
There's a lot of ways you can 
bet it but a lot, you know, it's

878
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,000
fun. 
Just to throw a couple bucks on 

879
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,600
a couple guys to win and see 
what happens. 

880
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Yeah, that's the thing. 
I mean, and odds wise, if you 

881
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,300
are of the gambling disposition,
I mean, if you think Alex below 

882
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:03,000
is the option, you're still 
getting. 

883
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,000
I think plus 600 odds on polo 
right now, despite being the 

884
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,100
pole sitter. 
And that's, I mean, that's 

885
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:13,000
pretty good. 
I mean, if you look at Value and

886
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,100
this is again where the 
spreadsheet that this gentleman 

887
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,500
put together has been of immense
help because I certainly, We 

888
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,800
didn't calculate any of these 
things myself, but be a pulao, 

889
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,500
followed by a ward, followed by 
Dixon, followed by VK or kind of

890
00:45:25,508 --> 00:45:31,300
considered the four best values 
of everybody in the field pulao 

891
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:37,700
at plus 600 award at plus 750. 
And that to me if I was looking 

892
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:42,200
at like, the best combination of
value and real, read it 

893
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,800
reasonable chance of winning. 
He'd probably the one I'd go 

894
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,700
with but Dixon's plus 800. 
And what vk+ 1,000 you know so 

895
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:52,500
that you've got a lot of options
there. 

896
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,400
And again yeah it's like you 
don't have to bet a lot of money

897
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,000
on any of those but it would 
it's fun to have something 

898
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,500
writing on it. 
It's just such a this is the 

899
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:04,300
thing and I having bet on Indy 
car a couple of times like it 

900
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:07,400
just it this race especially it 
just kind of feels like you're 

901
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,100
just playing roulette with 
things. 

902
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,800
Yeah, there's but at least 
you've got a little bit of an 

903
00:46:11,808 --> 00:46:14,200
idea of what the weighted odds 
are with some of these teams, I 

904
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,300
do think that that's, that's a 
good thing to evaluate well, 

905
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,100
That's what's so funny. 
It's fun and probably immensely 

906
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,000
frustrating about this race is 
that, you know, the reason that 

907
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,900
you want to qualify up front is 
because yeah there's a wreck in 

908
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:28,300
the first lap normally. 
It's just it can take out just 

909
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:31,700
like a wide swath of Road 428. 
But if there's not then it's 

910
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:32,800
like, all right. 
Well that doesn't matter. 

911
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,900
And now it's like a car from her
awaken win. 

912
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:38,300
It's like, if if this happens 
then this is good or bad. 

913
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:41,600
And that's what's Wild is like 
all the things we're talking 

914
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,800
about. 
Like New Garden could easily win

915
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,800
this race but if they're, you 
know, if let's say, you know, 

916
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Benjamin You're still a rookie 
just gets into it with you and 

917
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,900
Carpenter and turn one. 
It takes out new Gardens like 

918
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,200
well, yeah, of course that's my 
new Garden couldn't win because 

919
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,600
you're in the back and that's 
what's it's like so much of this

920
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,000
is dependent on other things 
happening or not happening. 

921
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,400
And that's what I love about the
race. 

922
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,200
But it's also immensely 
frustrating. 

923
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,500
I'm sure for teams and drivers. 
It does feel like I don't want 

924
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:12,200
to jinx it, but it feels like 
we've had a good number of 

925
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,900
years. 
Whereas not been a turd, a lap 

926
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:16,900
one incident. 
It feels like we're getting 

927
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Really close to do for it, but 
I'm not sure because when you 

928
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,300
look at the top starting four or
five rows, you only have one 

929
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:28,700
rookie you have gosh, three, 
four, five, six, former winners 

930
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:31,500
in the first four rows. 
Like it does feel like there's 

931
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,600
enough experience there that 
nobody is going to have any 

932
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,100
issues. 
Yeah well and there's also I 

933
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:42,000
mean outside I guess of the ray 
whole cars there's just there's 

934
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,100
not a situation where you feel 
like somebody's so entirely off 

935
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,500
the pace that they're going to 
Any problems, even those drivers

936
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:51,800
in the back, I think of 
acquitted themselves pretty 

937
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,400
well. 
Overall this season, you know, 

938
00:47:54,408 --> 00:48:00,300
no one's been a danger on the 
track and look what I think has 

939
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:03,900
been fascinating from my 
perspective, is it feels like 

940
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:09,200
the professionalism level of the
drivers in terms of how they 

941
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,100
handle this race, like top to 
bottom is so much better than it

942
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:15,800
was 10 15 years ago where it 
felt like, in some cases, there 

943
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,200
was a legitimate concern about 
whether People really understood

944
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,300
what they were doing and how 
they should handle themselves. 

945
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:25,000
And also, you'd have some 
relatively not safe, moves by 

946
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,500
people in front, trying to, you 
know, over like, do more than 

947
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:32,400
they should. 
And it does feel like I feel 

948
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,200
about his good about this 
collection of drivers as I felt 

949
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,300
about an Indy race in a while, 
just in terms of, I don't look 

950
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,200
at anybody in the race right now
and think, well, gosh, that's 

951
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,000
gonna be a problem as the race 
goes. 

952
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,100
Along, I'm laughing because I 
agree with you. 

953
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,600
Your percent and this is going 
to lead to a lack. 

954
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,700
Now, turn one right now. 
It's just this is the way the 

955
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,900
Indy 500 is like I'm just I'm 
waiting for that first lap for. 

956
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,200
It's like eight Carter and I 
shouldn't have said anything. 

957
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,900
I'm sorry. 
Do you like, but do I agree that

958
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:03,700
sitting here? 
I everything you said makes 100%

959
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,600
sense but it never seems to work
out that way. 

960
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,600
And Indie like it just doesn't 
and you are right, like bad luck

961
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,100
follows teams. 
And then again, it's all looking

962
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:15,400
back. 
But when you look back and 

963
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,200
stuff, it's like oh that makes 
sense like that. 

964
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,600
As passion has year in 2019, 
like he won the Triple Carrillo 

965
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,900
won, the Grand Prix, won the 
pole won, the 500. 

966
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:26,900
Think that was his that was his 
weekend and it will feel that 

967
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:31,400
way, looking back now. 
But I'm with you, you know, it's

968
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,800
hard to pick winners but it does
feel like pulao is writing some 

969
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,000
some high here in. 
Like this is kind of his coming 

970
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,900
out moment, where it's like, 
this guy is legit. 

971
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:46,700
This guy is really good and 
people are going to take note of

972
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:47,200
it. 
It does feel. 

973
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,700
That way I'm being I would 
again, it's all the guys that 

974
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:53,700
you mentioned like, I'd love to 
see Santino ferrucci win. 

975
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:56,600
I have a really hard time seeing
an AJ foyt team. 

976
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,700
Just put it together for an 
entire race. 

977
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:03,800
Unfortunately, same thing with 
VK like they that Carpenter team

978
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,300
has really good speed but it 
seems like they they lose the 

979
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,200
ability to keep their speed 
throughout the race just time 

980
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,900
and time. 
Again it's a carpenter has been 

981
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,400
up there and then it's like oh 
he's not good in the last 15 

982
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,300
laps like this don't make the 
adjustments that At some of 

983
00:50:18,308 --> 00:50:20,100
those other teams that are 
winning do. 

984
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,400
Yeah. 
This is, you know, I know with 

985
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,300
arrow McLaren what I'm very 
curious to see as you have a lot

986
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,200
of talent you have, you know, 
former winners on that team but 

987
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,500
are they able to you know, make 
those adjustments or they able 

988
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:37,000
to actually you know seal the 
deal and win a race? 

989
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,900
And that's that's going to be 
very interesting as it looks 

990
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:40,500
like they're a well-oiled 
machine. 

991
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:43,100
Looks like they have it all 
together but we've seen that 

992
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:46,400
before from teams kind of like 
in the end ready you know elk 

993
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,000
where they Great, that he gets 
the race and suddenly it's like,

994
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,600
they're just falling off and 
they're not able to keep it 

995
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,500
going throughout the race. 
I'm getting very curious to see 

996
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,500
if are okay because of Arrow, 
McLaren comes in and kicks ass 

997
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,300
on Sunday and like they win, 
maybe, you know, get to, you 

998
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:02,700
know, get 1st and 3rd or 1st and
4th and 6. 

999
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,300
It's going to be like, wow, this
is this is a real team that is 

1000
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:08,800
now like competing for ganassi 
to be the number one team in the

1001
00:51:08,808 --> 00:51:10,800
series. 
Yeah, 100%. 

1002
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,500
Anything else on the race itself
before we move to the stuff 

1003
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:17,500
surrounding the race, in our 
last 10 minutes, Here. 

1004
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:20,700
Let's go surrounding the right. 
So we mentioned the weather. 

1005
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,400
We also need to mention. 
There was just a tweet from 

1006
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,900
Jennifer, I right before we 
started that there's only five 

1007
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,600
thousand reserved seats 
remaining. 

1008
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:30,600
We're not going to get into 
black guys. 

1009
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,400
Like extortion, feels like it's 
extortion. 

1010
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:34,900
We're not gonna do blackout 
talk. 

1011
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:36,400
This time. 
We're going to keep it positive 

1012
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,000
but still Scott. 
We're gonna black out the 

1013
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,300
blackout talk. 
There you go. 

1014
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:45,500
You know the the 100th running 
back in 2016 was a big deal. 

1015
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,800
And everybody came and Really 
felt like an event. 

1016
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,000
This is going to be essentially 
the same number of people going 

1017
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,500
to this race and you want to 
tell me we'd already talked 

1018
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,900
about the weather. 
This looks like a. 

1019
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,200
If Speedway had a chamber of 
commerce, I'm sure they do. 

1020
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,700
Actually, this would be a 
chamber of commerce day. 

1021
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:05,800
This is exactly the kind of 
conditions you would like, for 

1022
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:11,000
the Indy 500. 
This is, I think this good. 

1023
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,100
This is the kind of thing that 
India needs like they need these

1024
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,000
sorts of races with this type of
weather. 

1025
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,300
With this competitive of a 
Filled with several different 

1026
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,800
drivers and teams that people 
can get behind and I'm really 

1027
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,100
excited. 
I'm also really fascinated to 

1028
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,600
see. 
I mean it's fascinating to think

1029
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,900
that the three races ago there 
was nobody in the stands you 

1030
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:33,100
know? 
Because it covid and then you 

1031
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,600
had half the number of people in
the stands and now we're back up

1032
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,400
to around three hundred and 
twenty-five thousand. 

1033
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,500
I mean as much as we have talked
about the need to grow new fans 

1034
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:45,700
and I still believe that in 
terms of not, you know, not 

1035
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:48,100
having the blackout. 
The fact that they keep 

1036
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:52,500
attracting this number of people
is is obviously a great sign. 

1037
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:55,300
I think for the series and for 
the race itself and I'm really 

1038
00:52:55,300 --> 00:53:00,500
excited to see how that affects 
the energy in the speedway 

1039
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:02,900
because I think it's going to be
pretty amped, and it's going to 

1040
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:06,300
be a like from about 10:00 in 
the morning as people really 

1041
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,700
start filtering, and what are 
you looking forward to? 

1042
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,800
I've said this before, I'll say 
it every year, like honestly, 

1043
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,100
one of the favorite 45 minutes 
of the year for me. 

1044
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:24,600
Me is from like 12 15 to like 
12:45 like that period, where 

1045
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,800
it's when I went to the Kentucky
Derby, ten years ago and I was 

1046
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,200
excited because he only had they
have the call to post and think 

1047
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,200
My Old Kentucky Home and it's 
funny, you go there. 

1048
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,100
It's like they do the call to 
post. 

1049
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:36,800
She's seeing My Old Kentucky 
Home and then you wait for 45 

1050
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,000
minutes and it's like, this is a
bit is just like Dead considered

1051
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,600
obscene of their deal with horse
and stuff. 

1052
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:45,600
There's a, there's kind of a 
cycle 2nd, where once, you know,

1053
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,000
they walk the military On the 
backstretch. 

1054
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,500
It's like, all right, we are on 
like, it's from there to God 

1055
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,500
Bless America to Taps, which 
gives me goosebumps every time 

1056
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,700
straight into the, you know, 
national anthem, the flyover. 

1057
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:57,600
And I'm a sucker for all of 
those things. 

1058
00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:02,100
But again, to me, it feels like 
we are in, we're kind of turning

1059
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,500
over Leafs were now. 
You're at a point where, you 

1060
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,600
know, they have, you know, we're
no longer doing the balloons on 

1061
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,900
back home. 
Again in Indiana, but they did a

1062
00:54:08,908 --> 00:54:11,000
flyover last year that was 
unbelievable. 

1063
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,400
Like just, you know, the 
Thunderbirds, you know, doing 

1064
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,100
the the arrow thing you have now
Jim Cornelia. 

1065
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200
I said, who's like he is are 
back home again. 

1066
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,500
Guy for the next 15-20 were 
selling bobbleheads of him in 

1067
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:24,700
the gift shop when we went last 
Friday. 

1068
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:26,900
Yeah, it's amazing. 
No, he spent what it's it but 

1069
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,900
it's amazing. 
You think 10 years ago they're 

1070
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:32,100
showing a video of Jim Nabors 
doing it because it's like they 

1071
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,600
just didn't. 
And again that was a tough 

1072
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,400
transition but it, it does feel 
like we're kind of solidifying 

1073
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,100
what the field as we were saying
is going to look like for the 

1074
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:43,400
next 10 or 15 years of pulao and
VK and, you know, rosenquist 

1075
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,500
guys like that. 
But it does feel like we're kind

1076
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:48,100
of solidified, all right. 
Like now if your To the 500. 

1077
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:50,200
Like it's not like oh you know 
used to be neighbors and now we 

1078
00:54:50,207 --> 00:54:51,100
don't know. 
It's like no, this is 

1079
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:52,600
cornelison. 
Like he's doing it. 

1080
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,900
You have a good I think Jewel 
will do great on the national 

1081
00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:57,400
anthem. 
I'm always excited for that 

1082
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,600
period. 
I still remember Jewel singing 

1083
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,000
the Super Bowl national anthem 
before the Broncos Packers game.

1084
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,900
It's weird and it's good for her
that she's still Braille event. 

1085
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,500
Almost what 20, 26 years later 
now? 

1086
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:10,800
I mean that's wild anyway. 
Sorry. 

1087
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,200
Go ahead, Ellen. 
And again merging, you know, 

1088
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,500
things that I love with the 
Pacers. 

1089
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:16,000
It's kind of like. 
All right, Tyrese Albert and 

1090
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,300
like the city is yours. 
URS like last time we did this 

1091
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:20,700
we gave they let Victor Oladipo 
drive the pace car and that 

1092
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,100
didn't go out. 
So hopefully Tyrese isn't like I

1093
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:27,000
want to go to Miami look after 
he drives the face car but no 

1094
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:32,400
that 45 minutes of pre-race 
ceremony I'm excited for but it 

1095
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,700
is cool that it it you know it 
feels like we're getting things 

1096
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:39,300
solidified like this is going to
be our church you know 

1097
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:41,500
traditions for people coming 
years fast and it. 

1098
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,900
So I have a couple friends who 
the first time they're going to 

1099
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:46,600
be going is this year and it's 
like, I'm excited to tell him 

1100
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,700
like you're gonna love. 
Like get in your seat early. 

1101
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,900
If you're going for the first 
time, you know be in your seats 

1102
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,700
by like 11:30 you start hearing 
you know cars to grid and the 

1103
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:58,300
driver introductions you'll you 
should be there get there. 

1104
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,100
So for me that's what I'm 
excited for the thing I would 

1105
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:05,100
love to see is you know, 
unfortunately it's like I said 

1106
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,000
before it's just there comes a 
point where as 100 laps we're 

1107
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,200
kind of just becomes all right 
like as much as excited I am 

1108
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,300
it's like I love the beginning 
and then it's like all right we 

1109
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:15,700
get to the last 15 laps because 
this is like just follow the 

1110
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:18,500
leader but What I'm excited for.
What about you? 

1111
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:22,500
Well, I mean, all of the things 
you just mentioned, certainly. 

1112
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:26,600
I mean, it's so it's funny. 
We had someone and I'm trying to

1113
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,600
find the Tweet but someone 
tweeted at both of us asking if 

1114
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,200
we had parking recommendations 
because I guess they're normal 

1115
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,500
parking location had fallen 
through and I'm afraid to give 

1116
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:39,200
any recommendations this year 
because of how many people are 

1117
00:56:39,207 --> 00:56:41,600
going to be going. 
My one recommendation is to get 

1118
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,700
there like earlier than you 
think you need to because it's 

1119
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,300
unless you have a spot that you 
know for sure You're going to be

1120
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:52,900
able to park in, I wouldn't 
count on it. 

1121
00:56:52,900 --> 00:56:56,000
And the last thing you want to 
do and I say this from having 

1122
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600
been in this experience, you do 
not want to get caught in 

1123
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,600
traffic on like 30th Street 
hoping that you're going to find

1124
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,700
a parking spot somewhere down 
the road there because it's 

1125
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:08,200
probably not going to 
materialize in the way that you 

1126
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,900
think but now I mean look I am I
think I'm the most excited for 

1127
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:17,700
the build-up like you said that 
that to that hour and a half or 

1128
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:22,100
two hours leading into To when 
they do all of the pageantry and

1129
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:25,800
then they get the cars fired up 
and on their way, the thing I 

1130
00:57:25,808 --> 00:57:30,200
will, I guess try to pass along 
for anybody that's planning on 

1131
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:35,200
going that hasn't been before 
this is without question. 

1132
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:40,800
In my mind, the most physically 
demanding Fan Experience in 

1133
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,100
sports. 
So true, it's and it's always 

1134
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:46,200
always gets underrated. 
I don't care where you are, you 

1135
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,900
can be in the infield, you can 
be in the snake pit, you can be 

1136
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:51,500
in a And you can be after the, 
you know, maybe the pagodas, 

1137
00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:55,400
well, said, the one exception, 
but like so, you know, I'm going

1138
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,500
my wife's going, my wife's 
family's been going since the 

1139
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:03,600
late 60s and they have a whole 
pattern down and I respect their

1140
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,300
pattern and it's a great 
pattern, but it requires us. 

1141
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,700
You know, getting up driving up 
getting to the parking spot at 

1142
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:16,100
like, 7 a.m. tailgating for 
three hours and then walking 

1143
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:17,700
over. 
And that's up, you know, it's a 

1144
00:58:17,707 --> 00:58:20,400
15 20 minute walk your walk. 
I'm through neighborhoods, I 

1145
00:58:20,408 --> 00:58:21,600
could probably do it 
blindfolded. 

1146
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Now I've done it so many times, 
then you're in the speedway and 

1147
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,400
you're just in the speedway. 
There's nowhere to go. 

1148
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:30,300
If it's too hot, if the sun's 
too bright, if you didn't bring 

1149
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:33,000
enough to drink, I mean you can 
go buy stuff at the concession 

1150
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
stand. 
But you really have no outs and 

1151
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,100
then it is it kind of used to be
a little bit easier because when

1152
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:42,700
the race started at 11, a.m. 
what you did for many, many 

1153
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:46,200
years, you know, you'd have 
obviously a very early morning 

1154
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,900
but the race would be over by 
2:30 now with the Green flag 

1155
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:55,200
dropping at 12:45, like you're 
there till 4:00 and maybe a 

1156
00:58:55,207 --> 00:58:58,900
little bit later and it is just 
there's so much exposure to the 

1157
00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:01,100
elements that you don't think of
you like, oh, it's a beautiful 

1158
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:02,800
day. 
It's going to be 75, whatever 

1159
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,800
degrees will be a light Breeze. 
I'll be fine. 

1160
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,400
And unless you work outside for 
a living, you're probably not 

1161
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,900
condition it to that experience 
and so bring more water than you

1162
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:18,100
need, don't wear short sleeves. 
Only if you do bring some kind 

1163
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:21,000
of backup or you can cover, were
up your arms at some point where

1164
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,500
a hat wear sunglasses, and just 
realize that this is absolutely 

1165
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:30,300
a marathon and not a Sprint or a
middle distance race because you

1166
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,800
really don't want to have to 
check out early. 

1167
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:36,500
Because as you said, yes you've 
got that long kind of flat 

1168
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:38,900
period of the race where unless 
you're really into the strategy,

1169
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:41,300
it's not going to resonate quite
as much, but there's a big 

1170
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:44,000
payoff at the end and we get 
that pay off every year now 

1171
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:46,400
because the races are tight. 
And that's the one thing about 

1172
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,800
India. 
Now, that wasn't like, it wasn't

1173
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,000
like that. 
Years ago where it was a shock. 

1174
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,300
If it car was on the lead lap 
with that was or the car that 

1175
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:57,300
was winning. 
Now it's a shock if there aren't

1176
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:00,700
15 cars on the lead lap at the 
end all of them vying for at 

1177
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:02,800
least you know, a better spot 
than they might have been 

1178
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,300
otherwise. 
So it's got you hit that on the 

1179
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:07,000
head? 
It's perfect. 

1180
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,100
It's, it's funny. 
I've been, you know, my 10 year,

1181
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:11,900
old son has been in 2nd car, I 
take him to the Grand Prix, he 

1182
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:15,000
wants to go to the 500, I'm 
thinking for next year but it's 

1183
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:19,100
no you if you haven't gone, like
the thing that I keep telling my

1184
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:21,500
son, One is like you got to be 
prepared and like there comes 

1185
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:24,100
points, you know, whether it's 
we're going in or were in 

1186
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:27,400
traffic or like if you're there 
when the race ends, like I don't

1187
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,200
care if your arm is off and 
you're bleeding like we're not 

1188
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,100
getting home for two and a half 
hours like there is. 

1189
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,400
No like let's just duck out and 
beat the track. 

1190
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,100
Like there is none of that their
lunch. 

1191
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:38,400
There is no be to your chance. 
Yeah, the gears. 

1192
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,900
Just your head and like it if 
you I guess if you left in the 

1193
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:43,200
middle of the race you could 
probably beat traffic but 

1194
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,400
there's there's points where 
it's like if you're there, 

1195
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,000
you're there for nine hours like
whether you want to or not like 

1196
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,400
that's Going to be a full day 
and I'm just not sure my son's 

1197
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,500
ready but no it's yeah. 
And the other thing is fun too. 

1198
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:55,500
If you're going for the first 
time like I was talking with 

1199
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:59,100
another friend, yesterday who 
sits out near you on Turn 3, 

1200
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:03,000
it's like there is no perfect 
place to watch the race like you

1201
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:05,700
there, every place has 
advantages and has 

1202
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:08,400
disadvantages. 
And you have to kind of figure 

1203
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,300
out what what you want to see, 
what's important to you and what

1204
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,700
you're okay, not seeing because 
that's that's the point with the

1205
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:17,800
track being so big. 
Yeah, I'm weird. 

1206
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:21,100
It's always a fun day. 
Day on Sunday because I'm always

1207
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:23,200
pushing to leave earlier. 
My wife's always like, we can 

1208
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,900
make it a little later. 
I will let you know, I'll see 

1209
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:28,000
how this goes. 
I, I have a way out of the track

1210
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,700
that I've been very proud of 
finding. 

1211
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:32,300
It's all about for me. 
A couple little ways where, 

1212
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:35,100
like, I know you can turn left 
on one street and then it's 

1213
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:37,500
like, for me, it's a getting 
away from 465. 

1214
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:41,500
I actually drive under 465 and 
then go in the back roads. 

1215
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:45,900
Like I'm at least moving. 
I'm gonna try the way in because

1216
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:49,200
I you normally take for 65 down 
and then I get stuck on the 

1217
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,000
Tenth Street, exit and it's 
just, it's a slog to get like 

1218
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,100
half a mile and so I'm debating 
changes. 

1219
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:57,800
This is probably bad advice for 
myself. 

1220
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,900
I'm, I'm thinking of coming in a
different way and just driving 

1221
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:05,200
back roads and not even hitting 
465 to come in and do came in on

1222
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,200
21st Street. 
Hi, I'm going to, I'm going to 

1223
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,000
say, do this on the condition 
that you get a camera mount in 

1224
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,600
your car, and you record a vlog 
of yourself doing this and then 

1225
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,300
you post it on the account 
because I predict Rarity for the

1226
01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:23,500
rest of us watching you get 
pissed off at deciding to take 

1227
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:27,400
the back roads and ending up in 
like a four hour traffic jam. 

1228
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,000
I feel like I need the video 
from this. 

1229
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,000
If this is actually I 
understand, I just go the route 

1230
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,400
that I know Works where, I know,
I'm looking at a 30-minute 

1231
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,400
traffic jam. 
Anyway, if we weren't expecting 

1232
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,100
325,000 people, I would say, 
yeah sure. 

1233
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:43,700
Scott, try something different. 
But I mean, the number of people

1234
01:02:43,700 --> 01:02:46,200
who aren't going to know where 
they're going, who are going to 

1235
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,200
have the same thought process of
his you as I better not take. 

1236
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:51,400
The main roads, I better go this
other direction. 

1237
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,700
I just, that's the worst kind of
jam to get into and that's what 

1238
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:58,600
I'm concerned about. 
Knock out. 

1239
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,400
All right. 
Not now I'm thrown off. 

1240
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,500
I'm off. 
I'm off kilter. 

1241
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:11,500
I'm embracing right now. 
My I will say My Philosophy. 

1242
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:13,900
In general. 
Has been to just avoid 465, it 

1243
01:03:13,908 --> 01:03:16,800
all possible, but there are 
other ways in that aren't back 

1244
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,300
roads that but a lot of it just 
really depends on. 

1245
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:22,100
Like, how early are you getting 
there this? 

1246
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:25,300
I mean, I was watching, I was 
looking at the IndyCar subreddit

1247
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:27,400
and someone was like, so how I 
really should I get there? 

1248
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,000
8:00 a.m. and like no no no no. 
That's did you try to get if 

1249
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,000
specially if you're going to 
park immediately around the 

1250
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,600
speedway. 
Getting there at eight is a 

1251
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,400
great recipe for being in your 
car till 10:45. 

1252
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,700
You know, I think if you're 
you're trying to park near and 

1253
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:44,300
you don't 100% know where you're
going, leave even earlier than 

1254
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:48,900
you think you need to because it
look worse comes to worse, like,

1255
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,600
you know, pack some breakfast, 
and some drinks and find a place

1256
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,300
to park early and then chill. 
If you don't have you too. 

1257
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:58,400
TV. 
You can put TV on your phone and

1258
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,400
take it with you and watch it 
wherever you go. 

1259
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,500
Except that this is kind of like
going to a huge music festival. 

1260
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:09,700
I mean this is in you know the 
speedway itself will be the 

1261
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:14,300
second largest city in Indiana 
from about 8:00 in the morning 

1262
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:18,500
until 6:00 7:00 at night and I 
would Echo the same thing if 

1263
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,200
you're trying to leave unless 
you have an ironclad, exit 

1264
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,900
strategy and you know, where to 
go and how to get out, don't be 

1265
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,200
in a rush to leave. 
Go down like walked out, you can

1266
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,900
they're not going to stop you 
like walk down to, you know, to 

1267
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:37,300
the pit area was like, you'll 
find things to do, you'll find 

1268
01:04:37,300 --> 01:04:38,900
drivers. 
Occasionally, they're just kind 

1269
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:41,600
of walking around. 
You'll, these are the kinds of 

1270
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,300
experiences. 
I think, if you try to treat 

1271
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:48,600
this like, don't be like, you 
know, every every Gen X or, and 

1272
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,800
early, Millennials parents, who 
that, you know, they're well, we

1273
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,700
got to beat traffic. 
So we gonna do this or that, 

1274
01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:55,700
don't do that. 
Like, you're not going to beat 

1275
01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:58,600
traffic. 
If you try traffic will beat you

1276
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,400
like a drum. 
Okay. 

1277
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,900
It will, it will absolutely 
pulverize you so true. 

1278
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,400
So just, you know, do not think 
that you can like, you know, 

1279
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:11,800
tame the tiger here, accept your
position and just take it all in

1280
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,800
because especially if you've and
if you know we're preaching to 

1281
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,600
the choir people who have been 
before but he's never been 

1282
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,300
before. 
You really do want to soak up 

1283
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:23,300
the enormity of the speedway and
honestly I have done this a few 

1284
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:26,200
times half the time against my 
will but half the time on 

1285
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,000
Purpose being inside the track 
after the race is over. 

1286
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,800
It's really kind of this 
fascinating Vibe like it almost 

1287
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:40,100
there's this catharsis that 
happens after the race and the 

1288
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:43,000
watching people Shuffle out and 
watching the sun like slowly 

1289
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,900
start to descend a little bit on
the horizon. 

1290
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:48,300
There's always this kind of 
weird orange glow that settles 

1291
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:50,300
in over the speedway. 
Scott knows what I'm talking 

1292
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:52,600
about. 
Those are those are the things 

1293
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,100
that I actually think about. 
As I think about my time at the 

1294
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,100
Way over the course of the, you 
know, 20 or so years that I've 

1295
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:03,100
been going, and that's what I 
would recommend you do. 

1296
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,900
Especially if it's your first 
time like, so call that in, you 

1297
01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:08,700
may wonder why you're doing it 
at first, but you won't wander 5

1298
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:11,900
or 10 years down the line. 
No, and I can't stress enough. 

1299
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:15,500
We like to get there early and 
just chill and like, what we 

1300
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:17,200
normally we can leave our house 
at. 

1301
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,900
Like I try and leave it, like 
7:15, we're normally parked by 8

1302
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,900
and then we're normally in in 
the IMs by like 9:00, you know, 

1303
01:06:23,900 --> 01:06:27,500
950 we park pretty far. 
We have a bit of a Walk but I 

1304
01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:29,300
love it all. 
Like I love walking with people 

1305
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:32,100
and it's like I love walking 
through Speedway the area that 

1306
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,200
we walk through because like 
I've stopped at houses and you 

1307
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,500
people got come out of use the 
bathroom like you you Parker 

1308
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:37,800
people and they're like I'm from
New York. 

1309
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,300
He just it is like you said this
when we were there on Friday 

1310
01:06:41,300 --> 01:06:43,100
it's like it's like the world's 
largest county fair. 

1311
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:47,400
But everybody is so nice and 
friendly and one year, I 

1312
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,800
distinctly, remember my wife, I 
just sat in the infield and we 

1313
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,400
just sat there and like, we're 
by the pits, but we weren't in 

1314
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,300
anywhere special. 
And it's like, Saw Graham Rahal 

1315
01:06:57,300 --> 01:07:00,200
drive by we saw Bobby Rahal, we 
saw Emerson fittipaldi and then 

1316
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,600
we like a guy sat next to us and
was like, showing us like he 

1317
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,400
princess his own spotter guy 
which he laminates, which I now 

1318
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,400
do every year. 
It's just like the people 

1319
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,600
watching his great. 
You'll see, you'll see random 

1320
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,300
stuff like it especially if 
you're in. 

1321
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,200
We like to walk inside the track
Before the Race, just kind of 

1322
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,100
bounced around, you'll see stuff
like the, you know, the the 

1323
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:22,300
marching band that plays the 
bagpipes after the winter. 

1324
01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:26,500
Like they're just walking around
play, like, you will see Cool 

1325
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:27,600
stuff. 
So you haven't been if you've 

1326
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,700
been you, this is all preaching 
to the choir, but you haven't 

1327
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:32,200
been do your best to kind of 
check it out. 

1328
01:07:32,207 --> 01:07:35,100
But just know if you're like, 
hey, I got a buddy sitting in 

1329
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,800
turn four, and we're in turn to.
It's like, that's, that's a 

1330
01:07:37,808 --> 01:07:40,900
tough putt. 
Yeah, it's a, it's a 45-minute, 

1331
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,400
the diversion and you're going 
to be stuck, like, even on a day

1332
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,900
like Friday Gail and I were 
there, it's like only 10,000 

1333
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:49,000
people are there. 
It's like, we beat the 

1334
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,600
landmarks. 
Like, where's the big 

1335
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:51,600
inflatable? 
This? 

1336
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,400
That's like 80 people in there. 
Is this. 

1337
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:56,100
I wish I wish everybody had 
heard Scott, my trying to find 

1338
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:58,800
each They're in a very small 
space. 

1339
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,400
We could not find each other. 
It was away. 

1340
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,900
I will say this. 
It get yours that you're like. 

1341
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:04,800
Where is he? 
I'm actually Apache helicopter. 

1342
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,100
I don't see it going there it 
is. 

1343
01:08:07,700 --> 01:08:10,500
There is something to be said 
for getting there early and 

1344
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:13,400
walking around because that cuz 
look a lot of times I'll do 

1345
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,100
that. 
I'll get out. 

1346
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,600
We'll get in there at 10:30 and 
it's like, well, the race is in 

1347
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,800
two hours and 15 minutes. 
What are we gonna do? 

1348
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,800
Sit in the stands. 
And so, you know, walking 

1349
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:25,700
walking under the tunnel getting
inside the track. 

1350
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:29,700
Yes, it's a A lot of walking but
you're going to be sitting for 

1351
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:32,399
the whole race. 
You might as well go see some 

1352
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:34,399
stuff while you're there is My 
Philosophy. 

1353
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:36,800
Anyway, we've gone over. 
We need to go ahead and wrap 

1354
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,399
things up, any final thoughts. 
Got no man, we hit it all. 

1355
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,100
It's great. 
It's one of my favorite days of 

1356
01:08:41,108 --> 01:08:42,000
the year. 
It's a Christmas. 

1357
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,300
I look forward to it and we'll 
chat after the race. 

1358
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:46,300
Sounds good. 
Yes. 

1359
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:49,399
And we hope that those of you 
who are going, have a great time

1360
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:55,300
and you probably won't see us 
because there's three 325,000. 

1361
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,600
The straightaway being gay 
wasn't turned three wave at him 

1362
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:04,700
will wave back but whatever you 
do before during after the race,

1363
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:07,399
be safe. 
Be you know, watch out for 

1364
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:09,700
yourself, watch out for the 
people who you're with, watch 

1365
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:11,800
out for strangers because they 
may not be watching out for 

1366
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,000
themselves and just have fun 
should be a great weekend. 

1367
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,300
Always my favorite part in 
Memorial Day Weekend whether I'm

1368
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:20,800
watching on TV from a distance 
or whether I'm going to the race

1369
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,399
up close. 
So for Scott I'm Galen our 

1370
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,200
thanks to our friends at the 
back home network or thanks. 

1371
01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:29,500
To our presenting sponsor 
home-field apparel, we will be 

1372
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:33,000
taking a weekend break and we'll
come back next week. 

1373
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,700
Maybe some I use sports news, 
maybe some Indy 500 rap, we'll 

1374
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:37,600
see what happens. 
Anyway, we'll catch you folks on

1375
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:27,399
the flip side, so everybody To 
our presenting sponsor 

1376
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:31,500
home-field apparel, we will be 
taking a weekend break and we'll

1377
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,300
come back next week. 
Maybe some I use sports news, 

1378
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:36,300
maybe some Indy 500 rap, we'll 
see what happens. 

1379
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,800
Anyway, we'll catch you folks on
the flip side, so everybody

