1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,480 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Field Apparel. All right, folks, welcome back 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,800 to Crimson Cast. Scott here with you. 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,320 Indiana football did something I think we were not expecting. 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Playing pretty well at Penn State. 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,880 They ended up losing 33 to 24 again finding another 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,880 spectacular way to another way to lose. 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 He just always interesting stuff with IU football. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,880 Unfortunately, Galen is busy this weekend. 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,680 Maybe he's in the Galapagos Islands. 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,520 I should make fun of him now. Galen is busy this weekend so we 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,960 have Taylor Layman joining us. I'll get to Taylor in one 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,960 second. First off, just want to remind 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,360 everyone to check out home field apparel. 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,440 It's hoodie season folks. It's I I broke out the Marshall 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,200 hoodie. I was telling you, I am going to 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,240 order the Idaho hoodie. There's tons of great hoodies 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,400 and hoodies aren't your thing. They got bomber jackets that 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,200 they have everything you could possibly want. 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Check them out Home field apparel. 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,920 They are friends of the pod, friends of the whole home 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,360 network. And use the promo code HOME 23 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,440 to get 15% off your first purchase. 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,480 Also, we'll stay with Indiana basketball kicking off. 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,240 You have assembly call coming back. 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,960 Just the home network is like engaged. 27 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:23,640 It's like the old I'll date myself here. 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 It's like Voltron, like all the pieces are coming together. 29 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:27,760 The home network is officially activated. 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,160 We are ready to go, but excited to have our friend from Bite 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,000 Size Bison, who is one of the stalwarts in Indiana football 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,280 coverage, that there's we're few but we are mighty. 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,720 It was funny today. Indiana's playing really well, 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,960 like on Twitter, like searching. It's just like there's the same 35 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:45,880 six people tweeting about IU football. 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,720 It's like a fan base that's just just been beat down again. 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Indiana loses 33 to 24 at Happy Valley. 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,360 Taylor, good to have you on, man. 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,480 How you doing? Yeah, I'm good. 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Thanks for having me on, Scott. Yeah, No, I was noticing the 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,360 same thing it was. It's always, it's always funny 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,480 because early in the season, you know, I sometimes I look at the 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,720 notifications, see if I'm missing any replies or something 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,360 and see who's interacting with my tweets. 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,560 And it's like a, you know, a pretty diverse group of people. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,800 And then today it was just like the same, like maybe 10 people. 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,160 I was like, yeah, that's that's about right. 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,360 And I know you are. You're recovering from a 49 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,920 Halloween party. I want to, I want to guess what. 50 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:24,600 So I will let the listeners know. 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,040 One time in college I went as Goldberg the wrestler. 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,680 So that was one of my like younger Halloween costumes. 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,040 I haven't dressed dressed up in a while. 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,800 I did have a good costume two years ago. 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,840 But Taylor, who were, I want to guess, were you? 56 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:40,320 Did you go as just like you know offensive coordinator, IU, 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,840 offensive coordinator, next hire and just made everybody confused 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,760 or would you go as? I I joked with my girlfriend 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,680 that I should go as Tom Allen. I have like a you know, over ear 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,200 headphones with an IU hat and. I could get a leather cheap 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,600 leather jacket or something, put IU on the front of it. 62 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:02,520 No, I always go as a couple of costumes with my girlfriend. 63 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,600 It means a lot more to her than it does to me. 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,560 So we were the Milky Way. So I just created these little. 65 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Felt planets. And attach them to a black 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,320 sweatshirt and she dressed up as the Sun. 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,000 So, OK, yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, it was cool. 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,880 It was it was fun. You know what what's funny is 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,720 like you you hear couples costume and everybody's like oh 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,000 like you go as you know Kelsey and and AT swizzle. 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 But what's fine is like everyone I've talked to who people like 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,640 you and other people like a couple of my friends in the 73 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:30,280 street who do couples costumes like no one's doing. 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,880 I think that might be the costume. 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,440 It's like everyone's zagging so no one. 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Like if you did Taylor Swift and Kelsey right now, I think you 77 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,480 might be the only ones because I think everyone's like, oh 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,400 everyone's going to do that and ends up no one's doing it. 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,560 Exactly. It's the it's the Kelsey and 80 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Taylor Swift and then also the Barbie and Ken because I. 81 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Talked to a lot of people trying to avoid those. 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Those two, Yeah, I like three years ago we'll get off 83 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Halloween talk, hot Halloween talk here in a second. 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Like two or three years ago, my neighbors have a crazy Halloween 85 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,040 party. It's the one where it's Side 86 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Story I will tell in the pod maybe next week. 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,640 It's this one where I had a former Purdue basketball player 88 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,080 steal something out of my my yard. 89 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,200 It's a wild story. But at that party, like, I was 90 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,200 like, what? What can I dress up as? 91 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,560 My wife and I did a couples costume and we did Forrest Gump 92 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,720 and Jenny. And I was like, I had not seen 93 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,920 that costume in years. And there was two other couples 94 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,880 as Forrest Gump and Jenny at the same party, including a similar 95 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,360 Forrest Gump. I was like, I haven't seen and I 96 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,880 haven't seen Forrest Gump 10 years before. 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,160 I'm not going to see it 10 years average. 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Like, I guess it's just the the the zeitgeist. 99 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Everyone gets in the same, the same mindset at the same time. 100 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,760 We actually saw Forrest Gump last night. 101 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,720 It was, it was, it was good. It was good. 102 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,400 These Forrest Gump is still around. 103 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,800 I didn't see any. I didn't see any Jenny's though. 104 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Yeah. So all right Indiana loses 33 to 105 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,400 24 at Penn State. What's kind of your. 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,160 And we're doing this Jared at assembly call is always like I 107 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,640 want you to do a like a really close post game reaction. 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,360 Normally Galen might take some time to calm down without Galen 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,840 here like you know the the handcuffs are off. 110 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,680 Scott, we're like doing this at maybe 1/2 hour after the game. 111 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:01,240 What are your initial thoughts from that game? 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Are you like, happy, sad, Like What's your main take away? 113 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:07,760 I tweeted we kind of took the scenic route to Indiana covered 114 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:15,760 you know I, I, I, you know I guess surprised surprised that 115 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,640 the the front seven specifically overachieved and and I think 116 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:26,280 that that's kind of my biggest my my biggest feeling it's you 117 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:30,240 know man I guess I was kind of thinking myself I guess it was 118 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,400 kind of. Nice to be back. 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 You know the things that we used to complain about with IU 120 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,560 football, right, was like they'll get so close to beating 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,960 these good teams and then they've been you know, they find 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,680 a way to lose. They always find a find a way to 123 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,120 lose in the in the second-half And I was like well, I guess, 124 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,200 you know it's a it's a taste of that again instead of just you 125 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,200 know what we were anticipating which is you know a huge loss. 126 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,120 So I I I think I'm probably a little more. 127 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,480 Putting out a little more positive because I went in a lot 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,960 more negative, but I don't know how are you feeling, Scott? 129 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Yeah, you know I listened to Galen in in the pregame really 130 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,880 kind of solidified what I felt too which is like it's you go 131 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 into this like you're you're assuming you're going to lose. 132 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,920 Like you just don't expect to win at Penn State. 133 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,040 You know Penn State. Michigan, Ohio State are kind of 134 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,480 games where it's like I'll take whatever I am and you know, I'm 135 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,560 not expecting a win and you hope that you can at least find 136 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,840 something to build on. That said, you know, the the 137 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:31,760 frustrating part for me is they played really well and even 138 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,160 after the first half you're like, all right, well this might 139 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,640 be a, you know, feeling the same as like maybe the the first 140 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,480 couple series of Michigan where it's like you play really well 141 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,880 and then it's just like the wheels fall off. 142 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,760 The wheels didn't fall off, like you kept the pressure on Penn 143 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,400 State, You put them in a tough spot. 144 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,000 The the frustrating part for me is I'm never going to go into a 145 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,200 season or a game dealing. We should win at Penn State. 146 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,280 That said, you get to a point where it's like you just 147 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:57,840 intercept their quarterback. There's 6 minutes to go. 148 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,480 It's kind of like everything's out the table, like the crowd is 149 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,960 quiet. So it's really not like a 150 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,680 normal, you know, Happy Valley experience. 151 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,960 That's the game, like that's the game to go for it. 152 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,560 And I I leave frustrated. Not that we lost because again 153 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 I'm not like expect I don't go into a season be like God, we 154 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 got to be Penn State because that's that would be Idiocracy. 155 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,240 But it's like you have an opportunity to go take that game 156 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 And I even, I don't get on X much but I got on X and it's 157 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,800 like you know you felt like we were playing to tie. 158 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 We ran three straight rushes right after that interception 159 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,360 and it's like I I was thinking to myself I tweeted this out 160 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,000 there that it's like you very rarely do you see upsets like 161 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,440 this happen where you back into it like you normally you have to 162 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,400 go take it like you just it it was there you have to go take it 163 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,680 now. I know Soresby had a hurt 164 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,520 shoulder. That also could be maybe where, 165 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,600 you know, having five quarterbacks we keep rotating 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,640 through, like maybe you could have gone with Tevin Jackson. 167 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 You could have swapped out that, like you had your two choices 168 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,960 there. But it's like, go take it. 169 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,240 And that's what was really frustrating to me is they didn't 170 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,880 do it. And then I started thinking, you 171 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 know, when was, I'll ask you that You probably know this gay 172 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,880 one would know this off the top of his head because he knows 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,520 everything. But you know, I was starting to 174 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,440 think like, all right, you run three straight rushes. 175 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,840 When was the last time we had a rushing touchdown this season? 176 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Do do you know? Because I went back, I went back 177 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,560 and looked. It was against Rutgers. 178 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,400 We had a rushing touchdown, but it was Brendan Soresby. 179 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,200 So I even dug a little deeper. The last time we had a running 180 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,640 back score, a rushing touchdown, and that was against Akron. 181 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,360 So we haven't had a running back score a rushing touchdown this 182 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,720 season in the Big 10, which is a whole separate podcast we could 183 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,240 talk about. But it's like that's the part 184 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,520 where I get frustrated where it's like you don't score a lot 185 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,320 of points running the ball This season with this team. 186 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:56,760 You have 3 downs, take one shot because you're probably not 187 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,680 going to a bowl this this season. 188 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,080 The season feels like it's falling away. 189 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,440 This is one of those opportunities where again, 190 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,960 there's 6 minutes left, You have a shot to like put a knockout 191 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,400 and maybe Penn State still comes back and scores that touchdown 192 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:11,200 and you lose by three. It's like, maybe it doesn't 193 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 matter, but you have a chance to like, go take it. 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,240 And it time and time again it feels like we play from it. 195 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,680 We're scared. It's like we're playing the 196 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:21,240 conservative. Normally in football, you go for 197 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,920 the points and see what your defense feels like that you 198 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,800 can't do that. Your IU. 199 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,960 It's just it sometimes makes me wonder where this has because if 200 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,720 you're Tom Allen, it's like if you could somehow score a touch, 201 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,280 just take one shot, score a touchdown there maybe Penn 202 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,720 State's more, maybe they're really freaked out. 203 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,240 If you somehow win this game, it changes the paradigm of the 204 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,480 season, the extension, like it changes everything. 205 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Instead, we're here with three rushes and then you end up being 206 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,360 losing kind of the way that I think many people expected. 207 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,000 That's that's like my main take away from the end of the game. 208 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with you on that. 209 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,040 I was, I was kind of baffled and I I've been really racking my 210 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,680 head as to why they would have gone so conservative. 211 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,360 Because at first I was like you know that's really that's like 212 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 coward ball from Kerry. And then I was like well you 213 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,360 know maybe it was more than Rod Kerry. 214 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,280 You know, like it's like, so something that Galen has talked 215 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:14,480 a lot about in the past is that. Tom Allen approaches the game as 216 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,360 the offense is more of a complimentary piece to the 217 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,960 defense. And so I've kind of been rolling 218 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,240 around this idea in my head. You know, without the press 219 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,240 conference, we haven't seen what he says in the press conference 220 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,880 yet. I'm sure it's going to be very 221 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,040 enlightening. But, you know, I think I, I I've 222 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,680 been thinking about what he might have been thinking, which 223 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:38,560 was perhaps offense. Don't blow this play for the 224 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,960 tie. Put our defense in a position to 225 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,560 play for a win, whether that's in regulation or in overtime, 226 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,560 and give them the amount. Give them opportunities. 227 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:49,080 They just created this take away. 228 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:55,720 You know, that's kind of how I I I, but I also know I think it's 229 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,040 right and I think that's the way he was thinking. 230 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Yeah, and and but then there are people who are debating about 231 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,000 the the Brendan Soresby injury, the the shoulder injury, but he 232 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,960 had just thrown that touchdown pass to Omar Cooper the the 233 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,920 drive before. And I I don't I don't know about 234 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,480 putting Taven and I'm glad he didn't switch the quarterback at 235 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,240 all I'm I'm kind of you know tired of that. 236 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,600 But I think that just throw like I think you know he's already 237 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,400 shown that he can throw on on his his shoulder. 238 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,320 It's not going to require a ton of throws. 239 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,440 I I think like you were saying what is there to lose? 240 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Like he he just said last week that he felt like the season was 241 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,000 slipping away and then he he. You know, responds with three 242 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,440 runs when they have a chance to take the lead, and it's it's. 243 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,080 It is also baffling to me. Yeah, well it's like you have 244 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,200 you know, the the only thing they did in the first half that 245 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,880 was good was they had two pass plays. 246 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Like they had two pass plays that broke. 247 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,280 You know you look at the the drive chart for the first half, 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,200 it's you know, 3 plays punt, 3 plays punt, one play for a 90 249 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,400 yard touchdown, 3 plays punt, 1 yard for a 69 yard touchdown, 6 250 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,800 plays drive and then or sorry over on downs and then 251 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,800 interception. So I mean the offense wasn't, it 252 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,360 wasn't like the offense was like functioning amazingly. 253 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,880 They just had two, two great plays, which is awesome and that 254 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,520 that counts. But they were both passing 255 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,440 plays. Like you've shown that you can 256 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,840 shred this, you know, Penn State defense a little bit. 257 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Yeah. And then it's not only that 258 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,960 those 3 running plays in the second-half, you have the drive 259 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,920 where they have a 14 play drive, they get 56 yards. 260 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,920 I think they go for it once on 4th and then you you're in the, 261 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 I think you get in the they finally get in the red zone but 262 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,640 they they miss a field goal attempt and again it's kind of 263 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,760 like there's like you've already gone for it once like I was kind 264 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,680 of go forward again like just take a shot like your defense 265 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:49,760 has been holding up it. Again it's like I don't quite 266 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,760 know what the mode or like the what this what the headspace is 267 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,200 on this offense because like they'll go forward on 4th and 268 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,200 they won't then they'll kick a field goal and they'll play safe 269 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,360 and sometimes they'll go I don't know but it's it's still 270 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,720 baffling. But again I also walk away. 271 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,760 It's like look you they played really hard. 272 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,040 They came back and this team showed a lot of resilience to 273 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,520 play hard so you can take some of that away as a positive. 274 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,120 It's just, you know, there's not a lot of opportunities that you 275 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,880 get to win at a place like Penn State and you know all the 276 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,240 historical stuff can be put aside. 277 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,040 I go back to again, it's like there's 5 minutes left, you have 278 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,320 the ball, they're stunned. I've been watching college 279 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,560 football for a long time. Normally the way that that upset 280 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:38,800 happens is that the upset team team throws a pass right there 281 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,280 and just goes for the jugular. Like they score a touchdown and 282 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,560 then suddenly it's like, oh shit, like, Oh my, like this is 283 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:48,560 real versus like what we did. Which is just you just very 284 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,480 rarely see upsets happen that way. 285 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. 286 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,840 I mean I think in the second-half they had a couple 287 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,080 successful drives. One that was 12 plays ended in 288 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,080 the missed field goal, one that was 14 plays which was that 289 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,520 touchdown. And you know I I just based on 290 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,520 the first half, I didn't. I don't think that there, you 291 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,960 know, was a lot of room for. Those types of drives to be 292 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,480 replicated and and I think you would pretty much use your 293 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,040 opportunities here. You're not going to get a lot of 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,080 those again. So if you're presented with a 295 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,840 short field then you know take advantage of it like you were 296 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,480 saying like take the upset you you like you're not you're not 297 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,920 going to find it if you're if you're playing for a die. 298 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,920 But yeah, no, I mean, I think. I I was encouraged by some of 299 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,880 the things from the offense and and getting their wide receivers 300 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,720 involved finally decrease Carter man like I it's Gala and I joke 301 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,560 about between each other all the time because I wrote a whole 302 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,560 like an entire by size bison about decrease Carter because I 303 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,920 thought he was going to play a major role in the team this year 304 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,880 and and I've been really singing his praises and he defeat like 305 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,360 eighth game into the season he's finally used the way that he is 306 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,480 you know made to be used so I was like. 307 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Wow, who would have thought? But even that play looked like 308 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,800 an accident. It's just like those two 309 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,640 receivers should have been that close to each other. 310 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Something some wires got crossed there but it worked out and and 311 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,720 then just that Donovan McCauley blown defensive assignment by 312 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Penn State and then and then you know like you were saying it's 313 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,960 really just the the two good plays in the first half and and 314 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,880 then. You know, those who weren't 315 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,080 watching the game very closely thought Rod Carey was calling a 316 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 good game at that point. But really there was just the 317 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,120 the couple of drives that were in the second-half that I 318 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,080 thought were impressive. But overall, I think it was the 319 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,680 front. I think it was, I just think it, 320 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,480 I think the difference in the game was the defensive front 321 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 seven. I think they they were the ones 322 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,920 that had IU in the position by halftime and if there was any 323 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,720 havoc in the second-half, they were the ones creating it. 324 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,840 It was a defensive pressure and interception at the end of the 325 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,000 the Josh Sanguinetti interception was caused by 326 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,520 defensive pressure on the quarterback. 327 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:09,040 So I've I you know I've really been tough on the front seven 328 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,800 and bite size Bison and I thought they definitely 329 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,160 performed better than I was expecting to. 330 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,960 Yeah I mean you you look at the defense you know and for they 331 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,680 gave up 31 points and that's been kind of our bugaboo is like 332 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,200 they're the defense is giving up over 30 points in basically 333 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,960 every big 10 game outside of the Ohio State game. 334 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Wouldn't have guessed that the odds on that would have been 335 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,080 insane. I was like all over. 336 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,360 But this is 1 where you know outside of the busted play which 337 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,720 did happen, it was again like I don't know how you get 338 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,000 one-on-one coverage and just just tackle the guy, don't let 339 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,840 him. But it's always like just don't 340 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,560 let, don't get beat deep. All of that said, it's like it 341 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,920 does count, but you take that away, it's like that's 24 points 342 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,920 up to that point. And while again the deep, you 343 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,120 know you, you keep putting the defense in these positions where 344 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,280 it's like you got to make stops and we've been tough on the 345 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,040 defense. The defense has not been doing 346 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,520 well in the Big 10. That said, you know 44 points 347 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,680 against Maryland is not good enough. 348 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,280 But to me, you hold Penn State to 24 for most of the game and 349 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,760 31 for the whole game. At Penn State I I feel like the 350 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,400 the defense did mostly what we needed them to do and that's why 351 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,359 I'm focusing more on the offense is you can't expect IU team just 352 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,720 go in the defense that we've had this year just be like we're 353 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,240 going to only hold Penn State to 21 at home. 354 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Like as tough as Penn State's offense has been, they still 355 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,880 have a really good frontline. They still run the ball really 356 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,920 well. It's just frustrating to get 357 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,440 beat basically in the air by. It's just like it continues to 358 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,280 be whack A mole. It's like they don't really get 359 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,840 the running game going, but they they end up crushing us in the 360 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:46,120 air at the end. Yeah, I mean a 57 yard score 361 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:49,840 from the least explosive offense in the country, that's pretty 362 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,880 back breaking. But there's an interesting stamp 363 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,760 offensively. And I know it's probably just 364 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,800 from the two big passing plays, but this performance in yards 365 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,960 per drop back, they had 12.23 yards per drop back. 366 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,920 IU did and that would have finished in the top 2% of 367 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,080 performances in 2022. And I'm just like. 368 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,280 And and so obviously a lot of that comes from the yardage I 369 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,480 was gained from the two, you know, the two big plays. 370 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,600 But at the same time I thought Brendan Soresby really played 371 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,120 well in the second-half. He had some really good throws 372 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,520 and and it just kind of further highlights like why would you 373 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,560 not throw in that last opportunity. 374 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,600 No, I, I and I think you know and kind of what have you back 375 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,600 in that headspace, Scott was the fact that you know there will 376 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,440 probably be people that will say that you know. 377 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,880 The 57 yard touchdown after the field goal, after it was tied 378 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,560 negates any frustration of not scoring a touchdown on that 379 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,280 drive after the interception because they would have been 380 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,880 down by a field goal again. But I just, I I don't know, man. 381 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,440 I just think, I just think that's just lose your ball, you 382 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,920 know? No, I completely agree. 383 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,280 And I think, I I think that you know what that doesn't to to me, 384 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,680 what you're missing there is let's just play the alternate 385 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,840 reality Indiana, the Indian does get their interception. 386 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,920 The the crowd is shocked. It's like the Penn State crowd 387 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,840 is completely shocked if in one of the next two or three plays 388 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,120 let's just play alternate reality. 389 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:23,520 You throw a pass and you know not even a touchdown. 390 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,200 You just get it within the five and then you punch it in or you 391 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,960 just throw up. Like literally next play you 392 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,680 just throw a 20 yard touchdown pass or you know, do something 393 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,520 and you get a touchdown there. You're you're up by at that 394 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,720 point, you're up by 4, right? So yeah, you're up by 4:00. 395 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,680 But it's like, what that does is it changes Penn State's 396 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,600 mentality again. Now Penn State is like, they're 397 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,360 freaked out. Like that's like again, it's 398 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,880 like an oh shit moment. Like we are about to lose to 399 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Ohio State and now we're going to lose to Indiana at home. 400 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Like, this is like our season is now off the rails. 401 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,600 They are going to approach that next offensive series 402 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,960 differently. I just have a hard time 403 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,640 believing they're going to take their quarterback and just throw 404 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,960 it an INT and have him Chuck at 60 yards down the field. 405 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,840 They're probably going to play a a much different style. 406 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000 They're probably going to try and pound the ball and get to a 407 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,880 point where they can kick a field goal, get to overtime and 408 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,200 let us make the next mistake. But instead, it's a Tide game 409 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,120 where now it's like, if you're Penn State, it's like, all 410 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:22,920 right, the chance of Indiana, you know, picking this off and 411 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,200 doing a pick 6. It is always there, but it's 412 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,560 very unlikely. So you're much more likely to 413 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,360 take a a shot because like worst case we're going to overtime 414 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:34,440 whereas suddenly you know if you're down by 4 points, I mean 415 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,120 you can't even go, you got to get a touchdown. 416 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,800 Like it's just going to change the whole mentality of the game. 417 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,440 And I I just don't know if Penn State runs that plate. 418 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Maybe they do, maybe they still do and we're down by three and 419 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,720 like, but it's to your point, it's like it's loser ball like 420 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,400 you, you have to go take the win. 421 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Yeah. Yeah. 422 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,960 No, absolutely. I I agree. 423 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,400 And you see this all the time with Indiana where like you 424 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,760 know, same same thing you saw in the Ohio State game. 425 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,480 Like, I forget the exact circumstances. 426 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Like we had the ball. It's like I think we were down 427 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,360 like 2:50 or something and it's like we just ran it three 428 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,040 straight times and went to halftime. 429 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,800 It's like we'll just take, it's like stop taking it. 430 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Like you had a chance to. Again, you're not going to knock 431 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Ohio State out in the first half, but you could go into 432 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,360 halftime 1010 or take a shot at it and be like, hey, these guys 433 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:21,040 are they're they're coming like versus versus like oh, we we 434 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960 know when it gets tight they're going to tighten up and they're 435 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,280 going to do the conservative thing. 436 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,520 Like I always like look at it from the other fan bases 437 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,160 perspective. If you're Penn State, what do 438 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,120 you want Indiana to do? I want you to run it up the 439 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:33,960 middle three times. I don't want you going forward 440 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,280 on 4th. Exactly. 441 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,040 Yeah. No. 442 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,280 And and you know just a very surface level thought I was 443 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,640 having right after the game was during that Ohio State game when 444 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,840 Wahlpell said that he. That he, you know pitter patter 445 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,920 for too long. You know I feel like those these 446 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,680 two things are tied a little bit if you had, I'm not saying that 447 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,400 you know they shouldn't have made a change in offensive 448 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:05,000 coordinator but this is kind of a symptom of changing regimes, 449 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,040 right. It's like the lessons that you 450 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:13,920 learn before the change don't always transition into the the 451 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,800 new regime so. I don't know like if if if maybe 452 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,840 a lesson had been learned from that Ohio State and like you 453 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,640 were just saying maybe they don't run it up the middle three 454 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,920 times maybe you know. But also I've I've, I've thought 455 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,640 that their approach to these these teams, the the big three 456 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,920 teams has been really strange. Like the Ohio State game they 457 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,640 were, they like that game was very weird to me. 458 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Like the weirdest Ohio State Indiana game I've I've ever 459 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,120 seen. I don't think any team was 460 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:46,720 interested in. Competing and but the don't tell 461 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,080 the TV partners, hey, we just signed a $500 million TV deal. 462 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Yeah, first game of the season. Yeah, this is awesome. 463 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Both teams are checked out. Fantastic. 464 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Then the Michigan game, they're trying to figure out who the 465 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,560 quarterback was and and then against Penn State, it's it's 466 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,520 you know? And I think that's why it's, I 467 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600 saw some comments that Tom Allen made on the radio after the game 468 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,160 to to Don Fisher and he was saying, you know, really proud 469 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,120 of the offense, really proud of the way they played. 470 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,520 Now we're in playoff mode and I'm assuming by that he means 471 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,640 that it's like they have to win out to get to a bowl game 472 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,480 because they have 6 losses now. And I was like, I just, I do. 473 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,120 I I just personally do not appreciate that, that the 474 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,640 observation immediately after that game. 475 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,120 I I just, you know with how winnable it was and and and how 476 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,040 the other two of the three big big three games have been 477 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,400 treated. I was like you know this it's 478 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,680 just the it's just strange to me. 479 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,760 I I don't know, I I I I thought that was a weird thing to say 480 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,240 right after the right after the clock hit zero, you know. 481 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Yeah, yeah, that's we'll move on. 482 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,160 I can't. I need time to digest that. 483 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,640 I'm not ready to say anything about that. 484 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,400 Right. But but I mean this is where you 485 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,040 know it's it's I I don't quite know who to blame. 486 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,400 But it's like this, this team has always been super tight when 487 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,360 things get tight and they they just default to the most 488 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,920 conservative offensive style and the only constant has been Tom 489 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Allen. Like you've gone through 490 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,920 multiple offensive coordinators and like this is what this team 491 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,200 is wants to do when it gets really close or when they get in 492 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,240 the red zone or when they get in high leverage situations. 493 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,800 They do not want to do anything risky and it it has to come from 494 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,040 the top down because you've had multiple offensive coordinators. 495 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,160 And this is, like you said, like this is exactly the way they 496 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,960 acted in the Ohio State game when they were really close and 497 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,720 they did the same thing. And so it it it fall. 498 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600 And again as the head coach, it's like you could easily get 499 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,360 on the headset and be like, hey do run one pass in this three 500 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:53,920 down series. Like guess what your offensive 501 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,320 coordinator is going to come up with a pass play. 502 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,240 So I don't want to keep harping on it because again in the end 503 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,360 it's like you I, we we've, I I hate the fact that we've kind of 504 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,760 just seeded 3 losses every single year. 505 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,000 It's like, all right well Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan. 506 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Like those are just a bridge too far. 507 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 But they are like fundamentally they are. 508 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,120 It's just it's it's annoying. It sucks. 509 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,720 And like we're one of the only big 10 or SEC schools that just 510 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,000 automatically has losses and just assumes that you can't 511 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,520 expect to go in and win that game. 512 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,120 It's like, well, you can. I want to take a step back 513 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,960 though from the game and like, you know, I'm really trying to 514 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,200 be positive from this. And you know in the preview 515 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,320 Galen was talking about how you know his hope is that we can 516 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,520 just take something away here and you know hit the reset 517 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,560 button and build on it. And on the surface you feel like 518 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,680 you would be able to do that and that you had a lot to build on. 519 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,520 But here is trying to be positive, Taylor, I really am. 520 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,400 But I'm going to go back and look at the last couple of 521 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,080 years. So if you look at 2018 and a lot 522 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,240 of them are actually against Penn State, the last times that 523 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,240 we've played one of these top tier teams really well. 524 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,440 So in 2018 we played Penn State. We lost 33 to 28 at home. 525 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,080 We then went on to lose three of our next four games. 526 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,680 That was a team that had four wins, was fighting for a ball 527 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,920 berth, went out and then lost at Minnesota. 528 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,920 Not a great Minnesota team, lost at home to Maryland and then 529 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,440 lost at home to Purdue. So in that year a close win 530 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,520 showing something against Penn State led to a one and three 531 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,640 kind of finish when you had a bowl possibly there for the 532 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,120 taking. In 2019, it's actually Penn 533 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,000 State again. We play Penn State pretty tough, 534 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,960 34 to 27. We lose to them near the end of 535 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,280 the year. We then finish the year one and 536 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,720 two and we know we then it's it's not a great analysis 537 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,320 because our next game is home to Michigan. 538 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,680 It's like all right again, whatever. 539 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,360 Michigan doesn't count, but it's like then we play a four and 540 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,760 eight or four and seven at that time Purdue team, we have to win 541 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,120 that game to get to a bowl and we go as close as we possibly 542 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,840 can, 44 to 41. We squeak out a game that you 543 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,400 have to get and then we go and lose the Outback Bowl to 544 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,040 Tennessee. So I I wouldn't say that like 545 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,880 that win against Penn State really changed the fortune of 546 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,120 that season for a good thing. I'm going to leave 2020 out, 547 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,640 'cause we had it like that was a good team that won a lot of 548 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,240 games. So it's not like a bad team. 549 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,280 It's it's not the best analogy there. 550 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,720 But yes, the Penn State win in 2020 kind of propelled that 551 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,040 season, but that was a good team. 552 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,120 The other example, there's two of them in the 2021 season, we 553 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,960 played that Cincinnati team at home really tight. 554 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,360 I mean that was a 12/14 point loss, 38 to 24, but that was a 555 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,760 really tight game. They went on to finish that 556 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,920 season one and eight after playing W, beating Western 557 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,720 Kentucky and then just giving up the rest of the year. 558 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,000 But they also played, you know, 9th ranked Michigan State that 559 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800 year. Really tight 20 to 4:15 at home 560 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,880 and then just they were done, like after that they were 561 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,360 completely done. So you know while I do want to 562 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,960 look at this and say, hey, there's some real positives to 563 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,160 grow from this game and we did exactly what Galen wanted us to 564 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,280 do in the in the pregame was have something to build on. 565 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,720 I I am nervous that the history of the Tom Allen regime outside 566 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,440 of 2020 is that after these really close losses against 567 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,880 really good teams, we haven't shown that we take that and 568 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,000 build off of it. Do you think this year could be 569 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,400 different? I think it could. 570 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,560 I think it could. I think I think the, yeah, I 571 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 think sometimes, sometimes these games could definitely be 572 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000 deflating. I think, I think the the thing 573 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,680 that's encouraging to me is that I think it would be really easy 574 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,480 for the defense, specifically the Front 7 to continue to be 575 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,600 you know, weak and though the way that it has been recently. 576 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,800 And and I didn't think that they were that in this game and and 577 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,360 even though they did give up more than 30 points, I just 578 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,240 think that the front seven was really strong and I think you 579 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,320 know you carry that into these games like specifically next 580 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,080 week against Wisconsin who really can only run the ball 581 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000 right. So you know, you carry that into 582 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,960 that and and and what I've also been concerned about, I wrote 583 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,960 about in the last by size Bison is that. 584 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800 And Indiana had been prioritizing the run game on 585 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,800 offense. And I I had the graphic where, 586 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,600 like you, there was success in the Russian game. 587 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,520 It was marginal and gradual, but along with that, there was a 588 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,960 decrease in the success rate in passing. 589 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,320 And then along with all of that, the offense was getting worse in 590 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200 the SP. Plus, you know, formula. 591 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680 So. I thought that they had a good 592 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,240 mix of past plays in there and and and that they were pretty 593 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,120 successful. I I, I'm I'm on a website game 594 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,800 on paper.com is a really good website to follow if if you guys 595 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,240 don't know about it but it kind of shows just like successful 596 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,600 plays based off of EPA and and it kind of breaks the game down 597 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,960 and and some really good in good ways. 598 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:13,200 So IU ran a total of 63 plays. And twenty of them were 599 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,720 considered successful, which is 38%, it's not very good, but but 600 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,680 ten of them were passing into, yeah, and 10/10 were passing 601 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000 into ten were rushing, but 45% of their passing plays were 602 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,040 considered successful. And so you know, if they can 603 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,800 carry that into the rest of the season, I think that's something 604 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,800 to be encouraged from Rod Carey, who like my concern with with 605 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Rod Carey taking over was that there would be a ton of running. 606 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Not a lot of passing because just given his history, given 607 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,560 the end of last season when he took over his offensive line 608 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,600 coach, I just thought that there wouldn't be much passing in this 609 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,600 offense from from now on. So seeing that, seeing the 610 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,440 success that it had, I think that is something you can build 611 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,680 off of offensively. And if there was any side of 612 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,320 either side of the ball that I I was hoping to see something from 613 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,240 was the offensive side. So that is what I'm excited 614 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880 about. But I could also see how a loss 615 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,880 like this could be deflating for a team. 616 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,160 But I. I think for this team 617 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,600 specifically, I mean it looked like it was already they, I mean 618 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,520 they've kind of looked dead in the water sky and so like just 619 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,400 showing any kind of life I think could could do a lot of work for 620 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,360 a locker room. And I I what are your thoughts? 621 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Do you think they can carry I I no, I I agree with you. 622 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,560 I mean I think if anything was going to be deflating, it would 623 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,760 have been losing at home to Rutgers, having the Shianu get, 624 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200 you know, Gatorade bath on your feet like that was and just 625 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,080 basically being non competitive in the second-half. 626 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Like they looked, I don't say checked out. 627 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 They just looked overpowered by like that was just a rough loss 628 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000 to Rutgers. That and then when you look at 629 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,760 like, Oh my God, now we got to go to Penn State. 630 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Penn State, as Galen said, was like they're pissed. 631 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Like they lost it. Like everything was was arrows 632 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,080 pointing toward disaster and they came out and looked really 633 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,440 tough. And at times if you just didn't 634 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,600 know the any of the history or anything you're like man you 635 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840 know that that team in red really is pushing around like 636 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520 they were blitzing and it's like the the as you said, the defense 637 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,720 of seven, most of the time they were getting pressure to you 638 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,560 know to the quarterback you would just be like man, is that 639 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 is that a Georgia team is that Oklahoma Like they they looked 640 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,760 really, really good. So I'm I'm encouraged by that. 641 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,600 So I I don't see this as being a deflating loss. 642 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:31,000 My concern is this is that things just can't ever work out 643 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,960 in a good way. Like, all of the, you know, 644 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,800 crazy Russian roulette that we had at quarterback seem to 645 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,960 finally coalesce on Brandon Sores. 646 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,000 Me. It's like, OK, fine, now we're 647 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,320 here. Like, we we, I don't know why it 648 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,360 took us to, you know, Halloween to pick a quarterback and to get 649 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760 through this charade, but, like, great, we have a quarterback. 650 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200 Maybe next year we can do it in like September, but fine, we 651 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,760 have a quarterback now with this injury, it's like, is it going 652 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,040 to, you know, open up Tom Allen to his worst instincts where 653 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000 it's like, hey, now we're not going to name a starter. 654 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,640 Now we can bring, you know, Jackson back. 655 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,160 Hey, Dexter Williams, you know Dexter, come on out. 656 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,480 Dexter, you can play like, is it going to, are we going to start 657 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400 the Dexter Williams game, where now we're going to run like a 658 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,800 quadruple option, just something we've never seen before? 659 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Like that's my biggest concern is, but obviously I want Soresby 660 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,880 to. I mean college kids. 661 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,560 I want them to be healthy. I hope he's healthy. 662 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,680 I don't want him to play if it's going to do further injuries. 663 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Like that's obvious kind of a no S moment. 664 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,720 But if he's healthy enough to play, I hope this doesn't kind 665 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,000 of bring all the quarterback stuff into flux because there's 666 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,240 enough problems with this team that you don't need to be 667 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,000 monkeying around with that at the most important position. 668 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760 And I'm just concerned because it looked like, all right, like 669 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,800 after this game, take that, you know, one injury out, it's like 670 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,880 it looked like, all right, we have quarterback figured out. 671 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,080 And it would be nuts to suddenly be like, all right, let's bring 672 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640 the Dexter Williams experiment. And nothing gets Dexter. 673 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,880 It's just like he's coming. Like, he's just not coming like 674 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,120 this. We have a quarterback now. 675 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,440 Let's do it. And so that is my biggest fear 676 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,400 is this kind of opens it up to let Allen start monkeying with 677 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560 that. And I think the team has shown, 678 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,400 you know, you have two games against two power 10 teams on 679 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,639 the road. In one game, you were flipping 680 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,920 quarterbacks all over the place. It didn't work well. 681 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,520 In another game, you had a coherent plan and it seemed to 682 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,600 work a lot better. Like, let's continue to do that. 683 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,360 I'm just, I'm very worried that this is going to throw all that 684 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,560 in the flux. Also, you know, yeah, so Brennan 685 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,800 Sorosby is injured, right? So let's let's consider that he 686 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,840 can play, right? So even if he is healthy. 687 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,880 I still, I don't know if I just carry some, like, doubt with me. 688 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,159 Now I'm just like, is this over? Is this really over? 689 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,920 The broadcast is like, oh, they they've really settled on the 690 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,080 quarterback, Brendan Soresby. And I was like, yeah, but Dexter 691 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,639 Williams is off the injury report. 692 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,080 So, like, is this over? But oh, what's? 693 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,880 So what's the standard for the quarterback? 694 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,000 Right. So because Brandon Soresby just 695 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,160 led the offense into a very close situation where they 696 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,400 almost beat Penn State at Penn State, one of the best defenses. 697 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,120 This is the thing that was expected to compete for a watch 698 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,800 Football Playoff spot before losing to Ohio State. 699 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,920 So you know is that is that the quarterback that IU wants, that 700 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,240 the staff wants, that the fans want. 701 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:19,600 I we've seen Taven throw well and we've seen Brendan source we 702 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,920 throw well and you know ultimately what do we want at 703 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,920 that position. But no, I agree and and I think 704 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,960 I just, I'm just, I walk away thinking that Brendan source we 705 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,840 can do what IU wants. The quarterback to do in this 706 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,000 offense and just move forward with that if he can. 707 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,680 And but yeah, yeah, I mean you're right. 708 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,760 Like it seems like as soon as we do get that quarterback, 709 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,000 something happens and then then they take the ball out of his 710 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,640 hands like like that at the end of the game. 711 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,360 What That's This is very fatalistic and I'm not. 712 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,680 I never obviously don't want injuries at all, but it's like 713 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,920 it's just quarterback at Indy. Starting quarterback in Indiana 714 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,440 is a very injury prone position like it's been we've done it 715 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,320 before. It's like 9 out of the last 12 716 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,800 years. Like we the starting quarterback 717 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,920 has not finished the season as the starting quarterbacks like. 718 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,920 That's partially why I get so frustrated at the beginning of 719 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,160 the year where you do this quarterback shuffle. 720 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,400 It's like don't don't even do it. 721 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600 Like the chance that whoever the starter is is going to finish 722 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,840 the starter is like Tom. You will get to change 723 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,720 quarterbacks like it'll be something that will happen at IE 724 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,320 like just let it happen naturally. 725 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,680 Let the tree fall down naturally. 726 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,640 You don't need to cut it down like it's going to happen. 727 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,360 I. I also yeah I also end with this 728 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,040 that you know we're in playoffs all right. 729 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840 We're in playoffs. I for those fans who don't know 730 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,040 I want to playoffs playoffs playoffs I want to go to that 731 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,360 that that sound bite. You know, I I my other take away 732 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,120 is this that you know to anybody out there who who has any kind 733 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,240 if if Indiana does not win another game this year to just 734 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,080 be like oh man you know bad luck or we were really close. 735 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,040 It's like no. Like this team has, it has 736 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,840 glimpses where they have talent. They played Penn State at Penn 737 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,320 State to AT at times they were pushing them around. 738 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,640 They played 1/2 of great football against Louisville. 739 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,160 They played a really good half against Ohio State. 740 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,600 The questions that I leave from those games are like, why are we 741 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200 making the coaching decisions? Why are we playing so 742 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,320 conservative? And then why are we not able to 743 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,920 do that for longer than small stretches of time? 744 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Or why do we take three games off and then come back and do 745 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,600 it? But that's my other take away 746 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,400 from this year is that there is zero reason why Indiana should 747 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,960 not win one or two more games this year. 748 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,240 Like the talent is there. Just be like, man, the talent. 749 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,440 Like to just say there's no talent, this team isn't good. 750 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,080 Like that is not. That's just fundamentally not 751 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,760 true. And so I, I, I just would let 752 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,080 everybody kind of have that mindset in a positive way like 753 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520 there's something here in this team can compete. 754 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,960 They're not giving up. They are trying hard. 755 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,440 But on the flip side like there does need to be some 756 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480 expectations and I think the fan base you know we're we're kind 757 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,600 of a crucial point here. Let, let's continue to push for 758 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,840 this team. Let's continue to support. 759 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,800 I think they have the chance to win at Illinois and beat 760 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,680 Michigan State and beat the last three games are all winnable. 761 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,880 And honestly with the Wisconsin quarterback thing, if they 762 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,360 played today, they did today it's possible, but you know if 763 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,480 they have the opportunity to do that. 764 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,160 So let's give them the opportunity to do that. 765 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,720 But I would just forecast that if they don't, I do think that 766 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,920 you need some seriously hard questions after a game like 767 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,000 today, because today showed that they can do it and it is there, 768 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,800 It's just not being unlocked or not being unlocked enough times 769 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,040 during the game. Yeah, no, I agree. 770 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,920 I saw somebody on Twitter. I wish I could remember who it 771 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,320 was so I could credit them. But they said, you know, there's 772 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,480 not really, there's not really a place for the staff to hide at 773 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,320 this point. It's pretty clear that there's 774 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,040 talent on the roster and if you can't get the talent there then. 775 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,680 What are the changes that have to be made, You know, so like I, 776 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,680 I, I agree, I agree. And and I think you know, the 777 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,600 only place where I could see this, where the, the, you know, 778 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,080 the staff could hide is the idea that there were so many 779 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,040 transfers this year And that that can keep from having that 780 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640 natural cohesion because they lost all of their, all of their 781 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,400 infrastructure when a lot of the other guys transferred out of 782 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,520 the program. But I mean that also speaks to 783 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,080 the staff as well. So you know there really isn't a 784 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,880 place for the staff to hide like they they do need to get these 785 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,440 guys in position where they can win these games and they almost 786 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,080 did it today and and the and and the the the talent is there. 787 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:49,160 I I don't I don't think that the this team individually like I 788 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,360 think I think individually the parts are. 789 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Better than what we've seen. The sum of a part, the sum of 790 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,680 those parts. At times this year, the team has 791 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,160 looked way worse than the talent that's on the roster. 792 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,680 And that's why even if even if IU finished with like five games 793 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,960 this year, I still wouldn't feel good moving forward. 794 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,320 It's just I I just, I don't I I don't know, Scott, I'm I'm I'm 795 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,000 getting a little nihilistic. Now, no, no, no. 796 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,640 I'm. I'm with you. 797 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,280 And like I I should say like, again it's it's, you know, I 798 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,240 just, I think it's a very unfair as somebody who's been very 799 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,520 critical of the program and was kind of critical today. 800 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,440 It's like I do I I fight back. People who are like, oh man, 801 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,000 they just suck. You know, no one's good. 802 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,440 Like, it's the bad team. They're just going to lose. 803 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,560 It's like, no, like if they lose out, it's not because they're 804 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,760 bad. There's just no talent there. 805 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,520 It's like there really is that's my encouragement from today is 806 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,800 they played tough and unlike in 2021 where it's like they look 807 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,120 like they just mentally checked out after Michigan State this 808 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,960 team has not checked out and and trying to end on a positive. 809 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,120 I so going back to the what positive can we take out of this 810 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,120 is I said this earlier in the season I think after the Akron 811 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,000 win, the great Akron win, the amazing Akron overtime win. 812 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,800 But you know looking at this season I I think I said that you 813 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,880 know Maryland was going to be tough but you know Michigan I 814 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000 was kind of expecting more at a Rutgers but I knew Penn State 815 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,600 and Wisconsin were going to be tough. 816 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,800 But it's like you've got to get to the Illinois get you've got 817 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,480 to keep the team engaged to November 11th because once you 818 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,280 get there I I still look at at Illinois home to Michigan State 819 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,280 at Purdue. None of those are a road too 820 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,600 far. Whether we can win all three or 821 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040 even one I I don't know. You're going to have to execute. 822 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200 You have to play well. You're going to have to do some 823 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,120 things correctly. But in my mind, there's no 824 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,720 reason why you couldn't win all three of those games. 825 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,520 Like those are all teams that I think you stack up very 826 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,640 favorably with. You have talent, you probably 827 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,120 have superior talent in some areas of the field and I will 828 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,360 look forward to reading it in Bite side Bison where you will 829 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,360 point out. But I think no question those 830 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,920 three games, there's going to be areas where it's like, look 831 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,400 Indiana's got the edge here and and but it's like you have to 832 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,280 get there mentally. And that was my biggest fear is, 833 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,760 you know with a probably a drubbing at Michigan. 834 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,400 You know I thought drubbing at Penn State maybe a home loss to 835 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,320 Wisconsin. Like I was worried that by the 836 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,760 time we got there the team would be so mentally beat down they 837 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,680 wouldn't be able to capitalize. I I have to give the team and 838 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,520 the coaching staff and Tom Allen credit at least right now you're 839 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,840 really close. You got to get there through 840 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080 Wisconsin. It it looks like they have not 841 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,320 lost this team mentally and they're still trying and they're 842 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,240 still you know pushing as hard as they can which is important 843 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,120 because there is still you know we're in we're in playoff mode 844 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,160 Taylor it's playoff time you know. 845 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,360 But they have a shot to do something and even if they you 846 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,680 know we're we're kind of talking about a bowl like it's something 847 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,880 I I it's probably out of the realm of possibility for this 848 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,880 team. But you know you've got to win 849 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,320 some big 10 games you just can't go 2 for 30 in in three years. 850 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,480 So you've got to find a way to win one or two of these games 851 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,040 and at least you win two. You're treading water. 852 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,920 It's not awesome. It's it's better than like 853 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,240 winning one where it's like, man, that's where it's just like 854 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,360 you got to find some stake in the ground and and find a way to 855 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,040 get it done. And that. 856 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,440 That's at least my encouragement I'll take away is I think this 857 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,680 team will at least be in the right headspace for those last 858 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,160 three games. No, absolutely. 859 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,440 And I think, you know and I think something that a lot of a 860 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,240 lot of folks aren't aren't really. 861 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,400 Maybe they're not thinking about or they're not talking about, 862 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,160 but. I think when you when you 863 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,360 consider all the transfers that they brought in this year and 864 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,160 thinking about Indiana as a destination spot for transfers 865 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,080 and even for recruits too. You don't want to end the season 866 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640 with like two wins with like two or three wins. 867 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,400 Because if you're if, if you made, I don't know what promises 868 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,640 were made to these transfers and they were coming in but if you. 869 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:50,960 Told them this is a place where they can find success and they 870 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,800 can find development and they feel like they didn't find it 871 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,480 here. That's not great for the future 872 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,160 of IU performance on the transfer portal or on the 873 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,480 recruiting trail. So I think that's also something 874 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,400 we have to think about too when it comes to finishing this 875 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,640 season because even if they can't make a bowl, they they it 876 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,680 has to be better than what I have personally forecasted the 877 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680 rest of the season for IU football to be. 878 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,400 You know, I was thinking like three wins. 879 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,160 And I now I'm thinking maybe 4, you know, and maybe not picking 880 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,800 up one of those last three, probably not the Wisconsin one, 881 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,080 That's kind of where I'm at personally. 882 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,320 But I think it's important to finish strong even. 883 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,480 And I share the same concerns that the team be deflated maybe 884 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,600 after the Wisconsin game, depending on how that game kind 885 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,120 of unfolds. But yeah, I I'm with you. 886 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,080 Yeah, it's so we move on to Wisconsin. 887 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,440 I look forward to reading you on a bite sized bison and I 888 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,480 appreciate you hopping on. Quick, quick notice I'm, I'm 889 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,480 excited to hear and put it on Twitter. 890 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,680 Whatever you If you guys are switching your costumes and 891 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,520 you're going like Snickers or Kit Kats or you're sticking the 892 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,800 Milky Way, come come Halloween, I'm excited to hear. 893 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:03,920 Awesome. Yeah. 894 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,640 Thanks for having me on Scott. Oh dude, of course. 895 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,120 And if you guys are wondering, both of my kids are, One's going 896 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,000 to be my oldest is going to be Bugs Bunny in a tune Squad 897 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 outfit from the original Space Jam. 898 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,600 Not the new one, the original Space Jam. 899 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,360 And then my youngest is going to be an Ant because he wants to 900 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,600 stuff the Ant cost. Ant man is very easy to find, 901 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,600 just a straight Ant is not easy to find online. 902 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,000 There's spiders. He's like, that's not an Ant. 903 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,040 There's like insects, not like he wants to be an Ant. 904 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,160 So I kind of threw that at my wife like alright you're going 905 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,760 to figure out how to make a thorax out of a out of a 906 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,320 pillowcase and let's see I look forward to Taylor the the the 907 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,200 costumes get get harder and and kids want to be all kinds of 908 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,560 random things and then like a week ago is like I may not want 909 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,360 to be an Ant like no no you're an aunt we've already bought the 910 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,680 stuff like you are aunt is locked in so we'll see how that 911 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,160 goes on on Tuesday night for those of you trick or treating 912 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,440 and then yeah Wisconsin back home again November 4th a noon 913 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,360 kickoff hopefully the weather should be nice and crisp but we 914 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,040 shall see. But Taylor awesome to have you 915 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,320 read him on bite sized bison and he might be on with Galen for 916 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,320 the preview. And as always for everyone else 917 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,040 out there I appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys listening. 918 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,040 We'll have more basketball preview podcast and both Taylor 919 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520 and Crimson Cast will be here through the rest of the football 920 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,760 season, whatever it brings. But I thank you all for 921 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,680 listening and this is Scott for Crimson Cast signing off.