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Patty folks, welcome back to 

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I'm Galen Clavio. 

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We got the 28th of September is 
the day that we're recording 

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here. 
It's a Thursday night. 

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And a beautiful night in 
Bloomington as we get ready for 

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a weekend's worth of football 
action. 

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Indiana back on the field once 
again, traveling on the road 

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this week as they take on the 
Maryland Terrapins as the Big 10

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season really begins in earnest 
And a big hill to climb. 

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Obviously for Indiana, sitting 
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needing four wins to get to bowl
eligibility. 

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And frankly, Indiana sits here 
at the end of September. 

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And should feel pretty fortunate
that they're two and two given 

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the way that things went last 
week. 

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Obviously, if you heard our show
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there's a lot of stuff that 
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It looks like on this I U 
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talk about that a little bit. 
We should have Taylor Lehman 

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joining us a little bit later in
the podcast. 

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We're going to break down some 
of the numbers that we'll be 

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looking at for this game against
the Maryland Terrapins. 

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And we'll talk a little bit 
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so forth and and what Indiana 
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the basic numbers for Indiana as
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The Hoosiers of course, as I 
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come into this, this game really
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2nd, 33% of the season. 
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third of the season, but that 
sounds weird. 

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Indiana Two and two and coming 
off of 2927 quadruple overtime 

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win over the Akron Zips. 
The Hoosiers are on the road for

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three out of the next four 
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They travel to Maryland. 
They're traveling to, well, they

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have a bye week after that, Then
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They get Rutgers at home for 
homecoming and then they travel 

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to Penn State. 
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games, even tougher if you add 
the 5th game on there the the 

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the beginning of the third third
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Wisconsin in Memorial Stadium. 
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So you know, you look at this 
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you say to yourself like you 
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to start playing better, start 
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You know, in in all phases of 
the game, very Jekyll and Hyde 

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type of team so far, but to some
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That Jekyll and Hyde nature is 
is masking what has not been a 

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particularly impressive 
statistical performance so far 

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for this Indiana squad. 
On the season so far they are 

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averaging 21.8 points per game. 
They're holding opponents to 

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19.5 points for game, which is 
is good, but by and large this 

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Indiana team is really 
struggling across the board 

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offensively. 915 yards passing 
on the season, 2 touchdowns, 2 

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interceptions. 3.2 yards per 
rush attempt for this I U 

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offense, and you know, there's 
been some good vibes around the 

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past protection for this I U 
team. 

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Coming into last week, they 
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and unfortunately they they did 
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against Akron. 
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mixed bag offensively for this 
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A lot of struggles in the red 
zone, as as anybody who's 

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followed along knows. 
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uncomfortable look when you head
in to play Maryland, because 

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Maryland has certainly performed
at a very high level thus far 

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offensively and really on both 
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The flip side is that Maryland 
hasn't performed against 

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particularly good competition. 
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averaging 37.3 points per game, 
holding opponents to 12.3 points

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per game. 
Michigan AR Excuse me, Maryland.

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88 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, 
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averaging 5.05 yards per rush 
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touchdown rushes. 
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clamped down. 
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interceptions on the season. 
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to to force 4 fumbles as well. 
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defense. 
It's been a defense that's 

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really disrupted their 
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Now the flip side of that is 
that Maryland does not played a 

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particularly good schedule so 
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In fact, it's really it's really
a bad schedule they beat up on 

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1000. 38 to 6000 Not an FBS 
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They played an incredibly weak 
FBS team in Week 2 on national 

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television. 
Weirdly enough, there really was

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no inventory that week for NBC 
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They beat Charlotte 38 to 20. 
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because Maryland really 
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quarters in that game, and then 
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and ran with it in Week 3. 
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was a walk over. 
Virginia has been real bad this 

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year, and Maryland made them 
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The Terrapins win that game 42 
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And then of course, last week 
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Michigan State is in shambles 
right now, and Maryland 

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absolutely took advantage of 
that, just obliterating the 

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Spartans 31 to 9 in Spartan 
Stadium, one of the worst losses

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they've suffered there to a team
like Maryland in a while. 

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I mean, you know, you'll see 
Michigan State occasionally. 

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At home, they'll they've been 
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by Washington. 
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teams in the country led by 
former I U quarterback Michael 

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Pennix. 
You know, But you know last year

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they lost really heavily at home
to Ohio State. 

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But they generally play pretty 
well in Spartan Stadium in 

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Michigan State made them or 
Michigan. 

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Maryland made Michigan State 
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So you know, this is a Maryland 
team that depending on what you 

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think about the overall quality 
of. 

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Of Michigan State has already 
you know they've played a Big 10

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game and they've wanted handily 
on the road and they haven't 

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played a whole lot with the rest
of their schedule. 

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But a lot of what we're seeing 
out of Maryland feels like a 

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continuation of what we saw out 
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A team that's got a a really 
exciting offense with a really 

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dynamic quarterback in in Talia 
Tiger Vilava. 

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They they've got some excellent 
skill position players that they

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can rely on. 
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average. 28 points a game, but 
was allowing 23. 

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I mean they were a team that 
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they also allowed points. 
This year they're scoring more 

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points and they're allowing 
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So as we bring our friend Taylor
Layman from Bite Size Bison in 

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for the preview, first of all, 
Taylor, great to see you. 

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How was dinner? 
It was good. 

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We made, I grilled some burgers 
and yeah, yeah, they turned out 

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pretty well. 
The the grill stopped in the 

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middle, so I was like, what is 
going on? 

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But no, it's good. 
They turned out well. 

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This is, this is the the grill 
God's way of keeping you from 

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overcooking the burgers. 
So I like the way that they work

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on this now. 
Well, good. 

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Well, we haven't really talked 
about a whole lot yet, Taylor, 

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but we're we're just getting 
ready. 

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We've laid out some of the basic
statistics for both of these 

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teams. 
You've done a wonderful thing 

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for the community in bringing 
back the the stat comparison 

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sheet between these two teams, 
looking at some of the various 

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advanced statistics that you 
would want to look at to try to 

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figure out what the matchup is, 
is and and what we could expect 

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out of this, this matchup 
overall. 

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So let's talk about that to 
start with. 

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I mean going and looking at that
sheet. 

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The the S&P plus win probability
between these two teams. 

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Maryland is an 85% favorite in 
this game. 

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The projected score right now is
35 to 14 in favor of the Terps, 

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which. 
I mean, given the stats we were 

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just quoting seems kind of Fair.
But, you know, can you talk 

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about some of the things that 
you noticed when you were 

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looking at this preview that 
really stuck out to you in terms

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of what we've seen out of these 
teams so far this year and and 

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how you think that might play 
out on the field? 

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Yeah, yeah, no. 
One thing that I noticed before 

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even started putting the sheet 
together was something that CFP 

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Graphs had tweeted out and then 
it was that I quoted the tweet 

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on Twitter to to bring attention
to the number that was next to I

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U. 
But Maryland was even further 

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down the list. 
So something I noticed but it's 

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the amount of yards that they 
surrendered before making first 

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contact with with runners and 
that's about a little over 3 

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yards from Maryland. 
It's it's almost about I use 

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average run per average yardage 
per rush. 

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But that's the first that's 
honestly that's one figure that 

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really jumped out to me and you 
can see it reflected in the 

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sheet and Maryland being ranked 
117th in defensive success 

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against the rush and allowing 
you know 3.3 mine yards per rush

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is essentially what that what 
that figure is. 

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So though that's something that 
jumped out to me but also the 

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number of turnovers that 
Maryland's defense has forced is

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second in the country. 
They forced 11 turnovers. 

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You know that could be strength 
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It, you know, it's it's hard to 
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turnovers. 
So you know that that's going to

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be part of this game. 
So that's those, those were a 

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couple things that jumped out to
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And you know what we were 
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I mean, Maryland hasn't played a
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thus far. 
You know this, so you kind of 

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have to take. 
A little bit of a a grain of of 

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doubt with a little bit of this,
but also there's there's teams 

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that are ranked like Maryland 
who have played similar, you 

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know statistically bad teams and
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some of the stats, these things 

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rank accordingly. 
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look at overall at what 
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It's it's pretty fascinating, 
you know, their defense is 

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actually performing better than 
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for opponent overall. 
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really solid football team right
now, a team that's got balance 

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on both sides of the ball. 
You know, a team that is able to

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to gain a lot of yards and also 
not give up a lot of yards. 

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A team that is, you know, he's 
got a pretty high offensive 

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success rate. 
And a team, you know by and 

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large that does all of the 
things that advanced statistics 

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are tuned to like and and you 
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may not be the full story. 
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statistics like things like 
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drive is that they are really 
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And that's really a big reason 
why Maryland's 4 know so far 

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this year. 
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of those statistics. 
You need consistency and you 

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know that that that's something 
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So that's why they aren't as 
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analytics. 
But yeah, that's a really good 

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point and that's also why the 
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of stood out to me because you 
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schedule, these first few games 
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a little bit better. 
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that could be something that I 
you could try to exploit, but I 

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just, I don't have any 
confidence that the rushing 

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attack. 
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apparently I U is still a 
running team, they're still a 

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run first offense. 
So this is your big chance, Tom 

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Allen, to actually make that 
stick. 

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I mean, I think if there is, if 
there is an opponent left on I U

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schedule that you, you know, you
could really exploit the running

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game against this may be it like
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because Purdue's rush defense 
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either. 
But you're playing Maryland 

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right now. 
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Indiana is able to get the 
running game going, which again,

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it seems a little bit unlikely 
given how poor that's been in 

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basically every game so far this
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against Maryland because you're 
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against this Maryland team. 
You know, not having Maryland's 

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offense on the field I think is 
is going to be where Indiana 

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wants to be. 
Because you know, Tyga Viola and

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and some of the weapons he's got
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take advantage of weaknesses 
that we've seen thus far in 

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Indiana's overall defensive 
approach. 

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Yeah, yeah, I want to touch on 
that real fast. 

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But something that something 
that kind of jumped out to me 

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also is the stark contrast in 
Indiana's success in pass versus

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rush. 
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successful in in in passing 
situations on offense than they 

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are rushing and and and third 
worst success rate and rushing 

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in the in the country so you 
know not that I know that he's 

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surprised everybody he's 
listening but but but no the 

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what I what I what I now I think
I forget what I was trying to 

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talk. 
About No, it's fine. 

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I mean, we were, we were talking
a little bit about trying to 

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keep Maryland's offense off the 
field. 

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And it is tough, though, because
you, as you just pointed out, 

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like you, on the one hand, you 
look at what Maryland's you 

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know, the struggle they've had 
in defending. 

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The run. 
And yet it we look at Indiana 

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struggles running the ball, it's
like well if something's going 

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to give there, it'd be great if 
Indiana could actually figure 

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out a way to control clock 
through running the ball a 

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little bit more than they have 
at this point. 

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Right. 
Right. 

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Yeah. 
No. 

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And and and on the defensive 
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know they're they have they have
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through through the passing 
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And you know I think Corey Dykes
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he's he's scary. 
I thought he was scary last year

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and it didn't really they didn't
really pan out because they had 

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CJ Defree and and some other 
weapons in the passing offense. 

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But that guy, I think this is 
the year that he could really 

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pose that major threat. 
But he's there leading receiver,

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the tight end, he plays a lot in
the middle of the field. 

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We saw that happen with Kate 
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You know that's it's that's 
going to be interesting to see 

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how they play another athletic 
tight end. 

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But then you know I kind of 
wrote in my in my preview from 

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Maryland that the front seven is
looking a little shaky and so 

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they're kind of I'm kind of 
watching them because they have 

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two good running backs 
especially Hendy he's he's 

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really good so and just you know
staying on top of those two guys

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is going to be difficult and 
they they've run a lot of, they 

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don't run a lot of play action 
but when they run play action 

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it's successful. 
And you know, yeah they can. 

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I think, you know I don't think 
they're the most explosive 

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offense the top 30 in 
explosiveness but I expect that 

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to be a little lower. 
But they can, they can, they can

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take the top off and I think 
that the linebackers have to 

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play better than they did 
against Akron. 

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Yeah, I know, without question. 
It's interesting cuz you know 

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you mentioned. 
The passing attack from Maryland

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a little bit. 
They're they're incredibly 

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balanced in how they get the 
ball all over the field. 

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They've got 6 receivers thus far
that are in double digits and 

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catches. 
Caden Prater is leading in, I 

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think total yards per game. 
He's at about 52 yards a game. 

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Corey Dykes is second. 
Just on Jones third, Ty Fallon 

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is in that mix. 
Octavian, Smith, junior, Roman 

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Hembree. 
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they were balanced there, too. 
Hembree, they're leading rusher.

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McDonald has about 200 yards 
rushing. 

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Antoine Littleton has about 100 
yards rushing. 

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I mean, they've really and some 
of it, I think it's been the 

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blowouts, but they've been able 
to get a bunch of different guys

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out there and figure out ways to
get them involved in the 

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offense, which. 
Is I think a really key thing in

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a game like you've got against 
Indiana here and it's going to 

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make it difficult for Indiana 
because if you're the Hoosiers, 

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who do you cue on? 
Like where's the focus go? 

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I mean, you mentioned some of 
the danger people that they've 

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got on their roster and 
certainly that, but I think 

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they've already shown they don't
have to go to those guys to have

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success offensively. 
Yeah know exactly. 

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If I you if I you keys on the 
running backs you know keying on

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running backs isn't great when 
you're trying to defend a great 

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tight end. 
And I think that's going to be a

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really good thing for Maryland 
for the season moving forward. 

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Why they're probably fairly 
successful on offense. 

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So you know you go after the 
running backs you lose the tight

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end. 
You go after the tight end, you 

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lose the running backs. 
And then like you were saying 

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the the receivers they have 
their disposal too. 

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I think are you know they're not
the most talented but I think 

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they're growing and so there's I
think there's like some some 

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budding talent there at 
receivers. 

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So yeah, I think it's going to 
be a challenge for. 

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I talked before about the 
multiplicity of of I use 

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defense, I think there's some 
multiplicity and then the 

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offense of this Maryland team, 
and I think that's going to be a

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struggle. 
The one thing I feel fairly good

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about, I don't think they're 
going to. 

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We will see. 
Mike Locksley might have a trick

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up his sleeve here, but I don't 
think they're going to do a lot 

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of design quarterback runs with,
You know, we saw how DJ Irons 

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really shredded. 
I use defense with that. 

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But Tiger by Low is not an 
immobile quarterback. 

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I mean, this is a guy who can 
move. 

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He just. 
Doesn't have to. 

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Right now he's completing I 
think 65% of his passes. 

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He's got two rushing touchdowns.
He's running when he's needing 

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to and it's just feels like a 
real after. 

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And again, we're we're a little 
bit shell shocked I think, from 

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having to sit through the Akron 
game and watching Indiana get 

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shredded by that particular 
team. 

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But even if not, I mean, even if
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Louisville game, this feels like
a real tough task. 

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For Indiana defensively, and you
know, you think about last year,

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you know these two teams 
obviously play. 

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This has been a really close 
series historically. 

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Indiana did not play badly in 
that game versus Maryland last 

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year. 
They only lost by 5:00, but they

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gave up 38 points in that game, 
Taylor. 

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And it just it felt like every 
time Indiana needed a stop last 

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year in that game, they just 
could not come up with one. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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When when I look back on the 
defense last year, I think about

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how you know at some certain 
positions the the personnel. 

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Well, I don't think it's what I 
you would have hoped for 

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specifically like Brian 
Fitzgerald at safety. 

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I I think that there are some 
positions that they they 

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probably feel better about this 
year's defense. 

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You know, because they've pretty
much recruited the whole defense

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out of the portal. 
But I think, I think yeah and 

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and I think I, I I maybe texted 
you this during the after the 

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Akron game. 
But that defense looked like it 

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was it was built with transfers.
It looked like there was a lot 

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of miscommunication and 
especially in the 425 defense is

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really susceptible to 
misdirection and if you don't 

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keep an eye on the quarterback 
you give up 86 scrambling yards 

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and you know it it just kind of 
it gave me, it gave me that 

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feeling that you know there is 
there is a kind of a razor's 

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edge to this to this defense and
and I think Maryland team could 

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exploit that. 
I'm not super optimistic about 

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about the defense going into 
this one. 

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Well, I mean you look, you look 
a little more closely at what 

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happened last year and you know,
I mean it was, it was a 

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shootout. 
In a lot of ways, it was a weird

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game. 
Because, I mean, Indiana 

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yielded. 442 yards to Maryland. 
They yielded 25 first downs. 

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Indiana picked up 23 first downs
themselves. 

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Indiana was leading in the 
fourth quarter, but Indiana had 

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three turnovers in that game and
didn't force any Maryland 

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turnovers in that game, and that
was really the difference. 

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And you think like one of those 
scoring drives gets turned over 

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Merritt maybe. 
Maybe Indiana walks out of there

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with a win, and maybe they're 
going into the last game of the 

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season. 
You know, without with a chance 

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of winning and going to a bowl. 
But that's not how it played 

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out, and that was in Memorial 
Stadium. 

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Now that that hasn't mattered 
too much in this series. 

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We've seen these teams win on 
each other's home fields a few 

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times since Maryland joined the 
Big 10. 

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But yeah, it's it's, you know, 
it's going to be interesting. 

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I mean, if you look at the way 
the defense played in its two 

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best halves of the season, the 
first half against Ohio State 

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and the second-half against 
Louisville. 

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You know the the the problem 
with like both of those games in

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relation to this one is that it 
was clear, I think it's become 

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even clearer that Ohio State was
holding every single card close 

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to its best in that game. 
They really were kind of 

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practicing what Tom Allen is, 
preached about, what we're not 

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going to show anything. 
And then in the Louisville game,

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it really does feel as I've gone
back and watch that that game 

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again. 
It really feels like Louisville.

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Was like, let's just do just 
enough to win in the second-half

451
00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:17,330
where you know we're not going 
to let ourselves get too 

452
00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:20,050
stretched out here and it ended 
up working out for them. 

453
00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:23,570
Maryland's not going to have 
that attitude like Maryland is. 

454
00:24:23,970 --> 00:24:26,330
I think they're looking at 
themselves and saying we have a 

455
00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:30,490
real legitimate shot at beating 
any of the teams above us 

456
00:24:30,490 --> 00:24:32,370
because of how quality our 
offense is. 

457
00:24:32,530 --> 00:24:35,570
We need to get into the top 25. 
We need to get some buzz going 

458
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:38,250
around this. 
We want to make a statement with

459
00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:41,810
this game and. 
You know, I do worry with I use 

460
00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:44,810
defense, the the mentality 
they're going to have coming off

461
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:46,690
that Akron game. 
We heard Tom Allen and his 

462
00:24:46,690 --> 00:24:51,930
presser today say he's like the 
focus this week, which I mean, I

463
00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:56,130
would hope you're going into a 
Big 10 game on the road, but I I

464
00:24:56,130 --> 00:24:58,770
don't have a lot of of 
confidence in that because 

465
00:24:58,770 --> 00:25:03,370
ultimately you've already given 
up 445 yards to this team on 

466
00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:06,010
your home field and they look 
better offensively. 

467
00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:08,700
This is a game where it feels 
like Indiana's going to have to 

468
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:13,060
force at least three turnovers 
just to try to blunt that, the 

469
00:25:13,060 --> 00:25:16,820
spear edge of what Maryland's 
doing, and also give their 

470
00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:20,180
offense a short field where they
can start to operate and do some

471
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:22,100
things differently than they've 
done in the last couple of 

472
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:24,860
weeks. 
Yeah, no, definitely. 

473
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:26,540
And you said they have to force 
3 turnovers. 

474
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:28,420
That's as many as Maryland's 
committed all year. 

475
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,540
So they don't commit a lot of 
turnover. 

476
00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:36,810
So I think, yeah, Galen, I mean.
Let let me let me let me let me 

477
00:25:36,810 --> 00:25:39,410
take this and and go with it. 
What Let's talk about Indiana's 

478
00:25:39,410 --> 00:25:42,010
offense first and foremost 
before we get to that. 

479
00:25:42,010 --> 00:25:43,610
Like the kind of the final 
segment here. 

480
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:50,170
So I can't figure out what 
Indiana's trying to do 

481
00:25:50,170 --> 00:25:52,730
offensively anymore because 
they've gone from running a 

482
00:25:52,730 --> 00:25:56,730
power option to passing the ball
a bunch to the not passing the 

483
00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:58,650
ball in situations where they 
they could. 

484
00:25:58,650 --> 00:26:01,050
I mean, that feels like the most
charitable. 

485
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:05,300
Evaluation of the Akron game is 
that they were really focused on

486
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:08,340
trying to get their running game
to work against a weak opponent.

487
00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:11,540
So they didn't feel like they 
had to pass and it almost bit 

488
00:26:11,540 --> 00:26:15,220
them but ultimately did not. 
So they go into this Maryland 

489
00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:18,020
game and I have to think that in
their minds they're like we're 

490
00:26:18,020 --> 00:26:20,420
we're going to have to move the 
ball through the air at least 

491
00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:23,460
somewhat. 
So what is Indiana, in your 

492
00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:26,870
opinion, need to do offensively?
In the air. 

493
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:29,990
And then how do you and you 
know, based upon what you've 

494
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:34,110
seen and assuming that they're 
not going to have, you know, 

495
00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:35,870
they're the normal compliment of
running backs. 

496
00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:37,430
I think Josh Henderson may still
be out. 

497
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:39,830
We don't know because nobody's 
going to tell us anything. 

498
00:26:40,550 --> 00:26:43,070
But if it's Christian Turner and
Jalen Lucas in the backfield 

499
00:26:43,070 --> 00:26:46,670
again, what do you think Indiana
can do against this Maryland 

500
00:26:46,670 --> 00:26:48,270
defense to give themselves a 
shot? 

501
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:52,070
Yeah, well, I mean, First off, 
pass the ball to Jalen Lucas. 

502
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:58,220
Is that is that allowed now? 
Apparently Week 4, you can't 

503
00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:02,780
throw to Jalen Lucas, though. 
I, I, I he has the best 

504
00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:05,220
receiving record of any pass 
catcher in the Big 10 or not 

505
00:27:05,380 --> 00:27:08,060
receiving record receiving grade
of any pass catcher in the Big 

506
00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:09,340
10. 
And they didn't throw the ball 

507
00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:10,940
last week. 
That's amazing. 

508
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,380
But no, throw the ball to Jalen 
Lucas. 

509
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:16,340
I thought, I thought Chris 
Turner. 

510
00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,020
I thought he looked. 
Actually, I thought he looked 

511
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:19,000
good. 
He did, yeah. 

512
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,160
No, he was. 
I mean he didn't have a great 

513
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,320
yards per carry average, but he 
was effective at the times that 

514
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,640
they used him properly. 
Yeah. 

515
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:27,840
Yeah, yeah. 
No. 

516
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,920
And I think you if you fit, if 
you fit him into like a if you 

517
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720
game plan for Chris Turner skill
set, I think, you know, he can 

518
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,800
give you something there. 
You know, I think, I think you 

519
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
have to pass. 
I think you have to pass. 

520
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,280
Even though Maryland's defense 
is susceptible to the running 

521
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,500
attack. 
You know what do I think 

522
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,100
Indiana's going to do? 
I think they're going to try to 

523
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:52,940
run and but I think that they, I
think they have to pass the ball

524
00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:58,220
and and I think they need I mean
man, Galen, like Cam Camper has 

525
00:27:58,220 --> 00:28:00,580
the 4th best receiving grade in 
the Big 10. 

526
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,900
They have two of the top five 
receiving grades in the Big 10 

527
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,940
on this offense. 
Why would you not pass more? 

528
00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:14,570
And so I mean, yeah, I think I 
know I've talked a lot about 

529
00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:18,250
rushing direction and things 
like that, but and a lot of 

530
00:28:18,250 --> 00:28:20,690
people complain about, you know,
running Jalen Lucas up the 

531
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:23,810
middle, which I get, you know, 
seeing seeing a little guy go up

532
00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:27,490
the middle is, is frustrating. 
But I think that they do. 

533
00:28:27,490 --> 00:28:30,810
I think you need to get Chris 
Turner and you need to run him 

534
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:34,330
North and South because if they 
surrender this many yards at the

535
00:28:34,330 --> 00:28:36,690
line of scrimmage, you can't be 
running laterally. 

536
00:28:36,850 --> 00:28:40,640
You have to run at them. 
And so that's what I want to see

537
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520
when they run the ball is I do 
want to see them run between the

538
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,440
tackles. 
I want to see them run forward. 

539
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,880
I don't want to see them go side
to side. 

540
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,160
And the option thing gets a 
little frustrating and I know 

541
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,760
everybody's voiced it. 
Taven's not the most mobile 

542
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480
quarterback and when you compare
them to some others who run the 

543
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,440
option and you know I would like
I would like to see I would like

544
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,430
to see them you know rip off 
like you know at least four 

545
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:11,430
yards a carry. 
So so yeah I mean that's that's 

546
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:12,950
what I think will give them the 
best shot. 

547
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:15,870
I think they can. 
I think they can cuz Wat Bell 

548
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:20,430
said that he wants to use the 
play action and so if you run if

549
00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:24,710
you run the ball at them and if 
they are really this week at on 

550
00:29:24,790 --> 00:29:28,310
at the line of scrimmage and run
defense and and I mean they have

551
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:31,790
a decent pass rush though the 
linebackers are pretty good at 

552
00:29:31,790 --> 00:29:35,150
pass rush but if you can get the
play action going you can negate

553
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:36,550
some of that. 
You can open up some space 

554
00:29:36,550 --> 00:29:39,630
behind those linebackers and 
which are you know the 

555
00:29:39,630 --> 00:29:41,790
linebacking core is kind of weak
for Maryland anyway. 

556
00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:44,350
But I think you can take 
advantage of some things in this

557
00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:47,430
Maryland defense and use it to 
your advantage and take some 

558
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:48,910
clock off like you were talking 
about. 

559
00:29:49,030 --> 00:29:50,550
Yeah, I mean it's. 
It is. 

560
00:29:50,550 --> 00:29:53,630
It's a really interesting thing 
because I you. 

561
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:59,430
Who has put themselves in a 
position where any opponent 

562
00:29:59,430 --> 00:30:02,630
Maryland or anybody else. 
It's like why would I respect 

563
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:06,550
the run at this point. 
You know if I can defend the run

564
00:30:06,550 --> 00:30:09,950
with with four guys or or or 
five if I'm going to throw in 

565
00:30:09,950 --> 00:30:13,990
the middle linebacker, I mean 
that allows me to do man 

566
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:16,550
coverage with everybody with 
with either a one or two deep 

567
00:30:16,550 --> 00:30:17,950
zone. 
And now I'm, you know, I'm 

568
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:20,630
basically covered like in Taven 
Jackson doesn't have the 

569
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:22,830
experience to be able to pick 
that apart. 

570
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:26,380
So you're either going to have 
to figure out a way to do a lot 

571
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:29,660
of shorter yardage stuff to try 
to get Marilyn to look elsewhere

572
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:32,580
other than the backfield. 
Or you're going to have to have 

573
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:36,260
some early success with the run 
where they can't commit minimal 

574
00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:39,300
guys into the box and instead 
they're leaving Camper or 

575
00:30:39,580 --> 00:30:42,900
they're leaving Donovan McCauley
open or at least single covered 

576
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:44,780
where you can take advantage of 
their size. 

577
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:48,340
Obviously we help if you could 
catch the ball when it's thrown 

578
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:50,100
to you as well. 
That was that was a little bit 

579
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,910
of a trouble last week, but. 
You know it it is a really tough

580
00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:56,510
spot that Indiana's found 
themselves backed into and and 

581
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:58,830
they've only got themselves to 
blame at this point because it 

582
00:30:58,830 --> 00:31:03,430
just isn't an offense that's 
demanded a lot of respect. 

583
00:31:03,790 --> 00:31:08,550
And that's even, I mean, you 
know, you can even look at the 

584
00:31:08,550 --> 00:31:10,230
the second-half of the 
Louisville game. 

585
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:13,590
I mean that they had one really 
good drive that didn't yield 

586
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:18,950
points and then they had a short
field drive and it's you know 

587
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:21,460
that. 
We always hear about Ben, but 

588
00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:24,020
don't break in relation to 
Indiana and their defense. 

589
00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:27,540
And if I'm the opposing defense,
I'm like, we don't have to give 

590
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,220
up any big plays because 
Indiana's running game isn't 

591
00:31:30,220 --> 00:31:33,020
going to generate them, at least
from what we've seen so far. 

592
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:36,860
And Indiana's passing game 
probably isn't going to generate

593
00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:40,460
those as well. 
And as you said, I mean, I think

594
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:44,460
the the defensive pass rush, 
it's not stellar coming from 

595
00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:48,130
Maryland, but it's also not bad.
And Indiana's been it was. 

596
00:31:48,250 --> 00:31:50,450
It was interesting, kind of 
watching the regression to the 

597
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:53,770
mean happen with the sacks last 
week, because while they hadn't 

598
00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:56,410
let Tavin Jackson arrive, any of
the quarterbacks get sacked up 

599
00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:59,330
to that point. 
The offensive line pass blocking

600
00:31:59,330 --> 00:32:03,610
grades have been pretty poor for
this I U offensive line thus far

601
00:32:03,610 --> 00:32:06,690
and that was eventually going to
yield something bad. 

602
00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:10,190
Yeah, no I'm I've talked about 
like how I'm watching the front 

603
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:12,870
seven on the defense. 
I'm watching Khalil Benson this 

604
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:15,190
week. 
He's he's had a couple of really

605
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:18,910
rough pass blocking games. 
I mean surrendering like an 

606
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:23,110
insane number I think. 
I think he surrendered 13 

607
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:29,870
defensive pressures in two games
and and the most all season for 

608
00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:32,890
in the Big 10 is 14. 
He's tied for the most but that 

609
00:32:32,890 --> 00:32:35,650
he surrendered 13 of those in 
two games. 

610
00:32:35,890 --> 00:32:40,130
So I'm watching Khalil Benson a 
right tackle and yeah, yeah, I 

611
00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:43,650
mean yeah, you're right. 
And so it seems like for some 

612
00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:46,770
reason the past blocking it 
started Okay and that was kind 

613
00:32:46,770 --> 00:32:51,690
of trending downward. 
And yeah, no, I'm curious to see

614
00:32:51,690 --> 00:32:53,730
how that, how the offensive line
holds up. 

615
00:32:54,410 --> 00:32:59,140
And like I said, I don't think 
this defensive front from 

616
00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:02,460
Maryland is super strong and I 
think that could come back to 

617
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:04,260
bite them in this game against 
Indiana. 

618
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,580
But I mean, I don't think 
Indiana has necessarily a really

619
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:13,100
big bite. 
So how badly is that going to 

620
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,580
bite them? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

621
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:22,580
And I think, yeah, yeah, no, I'm
kind of, kind of, I'm at a 

622
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:24,660
little bit of a loss here. 
I've managed to. 

623
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:27,020
I've managed to. 
Tongue tie Taylor on this game. 

624
00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:29,420
But that's the thing though. 
I mean and and it will finish 

625
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:30,860
off with this. 
I mean this is kind of the 

626
00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:36,020
conundrum with this I U team. 
We're we're waiting for phase 

627
00:33:36,020 --> 00:33:38,780
two of the 2023 season to kick 
in. 

628
00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:43,100
And I think everybody just kind 
of hoping that what we've seen 

629
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:46,580
out of Indiana collectively over
the first eight halves of the 

630
00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:51,020
season is not actually Indiana 
in 2023. 

631
00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:53,260
There have been some good 
individual moments. 

632
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,780
But when you put it all together
and you really think about like 

633
00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:00,340
how they perform or take the 
Indiana State game out of it to 

634
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:02,900
a large degree because that 
that's such a bad team, 

635
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:06,420
unfortunately. 
So you just take the six halves,

636
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:09,219
it really doesn't paint a very 
positive picture. 

637
00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:13,580
And you know, Maryland, this 
might be the worst opponent to 

638
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:15,500
face at this point in the 
season. 

639
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,860
Because I feel like if you're 
facing Michigan here, if you're 

640
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:22,780
facing Penn State, there's a 
justification if you get your 

641
00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:25,699
doors blown off because 
obviously those teams are light 

642
00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:28,340
years ahead of you. 
Talent wise, Maryland should be 

643
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:31,260
on your level. 
I mean, Maryland was, I think, 

644
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:36,030
demonstrably below Indiana. 
In 2019 and 2020. 

645
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:40,150
And to watch Maryland, you know,
have a pretty good season last 

646
00:34:40,150 --> 00:34:43,510
year and look better this year 
thus far through four games. 

647
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,840
You know, and especially a team 
that you were right there with 

648
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,400
for the game last year when you 
weren't that good, if you know 

649
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,880
this is an interesting 
barometer. 

650
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,080
So I'm hopeful that you know 
Indiana's able to put what's 

651
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,840
happened behind them, really 
come out with a solid, well 

652
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,800
focused game plan that 
effectively moves the ball and 

653
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,640
that they get some some better 
performances out of their 

654
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,600
defense than what they got last 
week. 

655
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,320
Certainly, because I think if 
they can show that they can play

656
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,560
with Maryland that. 
Creates an environment where 

657
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,720
you're you know you don't feel 
like you've taken significant 

658
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,000
steps back from the start of the
season. 

659
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,240
You can be like Okay we shook 
off the Akron game. 

660
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,360
You know win or lose. 
In the road trip to Maryland. 

661
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,520
We performed well. 
We were competitive down the 

662
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,240
stretch. 
I But I also feel like of all 

663
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:34,080
the opponents other than maybe 
Rutgers, this might be the worst

664
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,320
opponent if Indiana plays very 
poorly against. 

665
00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:39,430
Because now you've lost another 
game to a divisional opponent. 

666
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:42,830
Now you're 2:00 and 3:00 and 
you're facing Michigan in the 

667
00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:45,150
next game and so you're likely 
to be two and four. 

668
00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:47,230
And it's like now things have 
really started to spin out of 

669
00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:48,470
control. 
I don't know. 

670
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:52,830
I mean it's it's weird to think 
like you know we we it's not I 

671
00:35:52,830 --> 00:35:55,470
don't believe in must wins until
they're actually must wins. 

672
00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:59,310
But from a momentum and an 
atmosphere perspective, you 

673
00:35:59,310 --> 00:36:01,820
know. 
Struggling with Akron and then 

674
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,540
really struggling against 
Maryland will be a really tough 

675
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:08,980
1-2 gut punch combination for 
this program as it's trying to 

676
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,460
find its footing and kind of get
back up on things. 

677
00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:14,260
Yeah, no, absolutely. 
You can kind of explain away 

678
00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:16,900
some of the things that happened
in the in the first four games, 

679
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:18,340
right? 
Like, you know, you have that 

680
00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:20,660
first half against Louisville 
with the defense, but the 

681
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:24,270
second-half looked much better. 
And so you know, I remember 

682
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:27,110
leaving that game and thinking 
do we actually know more about 

683
00:36:27,110 --> 00:36:30,670
this team And then Akron kind of
proved that maybe we we did so, 

684
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,990
but, but you then, I mean you 
could say for Akron, even you 

685
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:35,830
could say that, you know, maybe 
they were. 

686
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:38,070
Maybe it's like a trap game. 
They're looking to head to 

687
00:36:38,070 --> 00:36:40,070
Maryland or in the Big 10 season
or something. 

688
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:43,590
They didn't take them seriously.
They know you can try to explain

689
00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:47,110
away those first four games. 
But this one, I mean you, you 

690
00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:50,190
can't explain anything away in 
this one. 

691
00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:53,240
This one. 
This one is like you were 

692
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:57,320
saying, like you, there is no 
excuse for this game. 

693
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,840
And so, you know, what we see is
kind of what we're going to get.

694
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,760
And I think there is, I think 
there is some room for optimism.

695
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,720
Absolutely. 
But but yeah, I think after this

696
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,040
game it's we're going to know 
exactly how long this season's 

697
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,120
going to feel. 
No, I also wanted to say GAIL 

698
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,290
and I forgot to mention earlier,
the three specific players who 

699
00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:25,690
I'm watching on defense are 
Andre Carter, Aaron Casey and 

700
00:37:25,690 --> 00:37:28,770
Jacob Mangum Farrar. 
They played terribly against 

701
00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:30,810
Akron. 
They were not good at all. 

702
00:37:30,850 --> 00:37:35,210
And so those guys are going to 
have to play well in this game 

703
00:37:35,210 --> 00:37:38,810
for if they want to win and and 
I think that's I'm going to be 

704
00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:40,410
watching them on defense. 
I think that's going to be 

705
00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:42,230
pretty telling of the defense as
well, Yeah. 

706
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:44,150
And I use in general. 
No, it is. 

707
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:45,750
I mean, I think. 
You know, there's a lot of guys 

708
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:47,950
on defense that really need to 
have kind of the game of their 

709
00:37:47,950 --> 00:37:50,950
lives in this one, you know? 
And this is a good time to do it

710
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:53,750
because hey, you're coming off a
really bad performance where 

711
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:57,150
everybody underperformed. 
You're going to get games like 

712
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:59,630
that, you know? 
And that's not, we can highlight

713
00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:04,070
that guys had games where they 
really struggled without it 

714
00:38:04,070 --> 00:38:06,350
being, you know, anything other 
than just a professional 

715
00:38:06,350 --> 00:38:07,830
critique of how they were 
playing. 

716
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:12,590
But this is where you make right
and you know if it's again, if 

717
00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:17,830
it's true that Indiana just the 
the the the core issue was that 

718
00:38:17,830 --> 00:38:21,070
they didn't take Akron seriously
and that now they're taking it 

719
00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:23,510
seriously and that they're 
they've gotten their attention. 

720
00:38:24,030 --> 00:38:27,870
I think this is where maybe it 
isn't out of the question that 

721
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:31,670
you see the defense has a really
good game and you have C 

722
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:34,190
individual defensive players 
have really good games. 

723
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:36,430
Indiana's going to need it 
because. 

724
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,980
You know, you look at what 
Michigan, what Maryland did to 

725
00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:42,020
Michigan State last week and 
that's a Michigan State team 

726
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:44,300
that is certainly on the ropes. 
They were coming off a really 

727
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,020
bad loss to Washington, but they
didn't look like they belong on 

728
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:50,420
the same field as Maryland for 
large stretches of that game. 

729
00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:54,460
And you know, as bad as Michigan
State's been and as much of A 

730
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:57,020
cloud is over that program, I 
still think they've probably got

731
00:38:57,420 --> 00:39:01,460
better overall talent from you 
know recruiting stars 

732
00:39:01,460 --> 00:39:03,980
perspective than Indiana does 
which. 

733
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,160
You, you, you add in that 
Maryland's going to be at home 

734
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,280
at this. 
I mean, it's really going to 

735
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,400
take some guys stepping out and 
stepping up. 

736
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:12,840
Coming off of what happened last
week. 

737
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,000
Yeah. 
No, absolutely. 

738
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,800
I agree. 
Yeah, I don't really have 

739
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880
anything else to add to that. 
I think you summed it up pretty 

740
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,440
well. 
Yeah, I I could see it. 

741
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,190
I could see it going many 
different directions and and I 

742
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:30,590
think, yeah, that's why I 
remember you and I talked 

743
00:39:30,590 --> 00:39:34,190
earlier before the season began 
about which games are we going 

744
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:38,150
to learn the most about IU and 
you had mentioned Louisville 

745
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:41,550
which I believe we did. 
But this one, I think this is 

746
00:39:41,550 --> 00:39:44,630
the one that I was watching for 
and I think we're kind of I 

747
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:46,510
think we're gonna learn a lot 
about this team in this one. 

748
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:49,230
We didn't anticipate that Akron 
game being the way that it was, 

749
00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:52,070
but I think we're gonna learn a 
lot about this team. 

750
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:54,230
Yeah, I mean, look at the. 
End of the day, I mean, this is 

751
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:56,790
a Maryland team that has, you 
know, they they struggled in a 

752
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:58,590
lot of games last year and they 
won them. 

753
00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:00,070
I mean, they were really on the 
razor's edge. 

754
00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:02,990
They they, they only beat SMU by
7. 

755
00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:06,270
You know, they lost at Michigan 
by 7, which was impressive. 

756
00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:08,830
But then they turned around and 
lost at home to Purdue, which 

757
00:40:08,830 --> 00:40:11,030
was one of the more baffling 
games of last year. 

758
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:13,750
They barely beat Indiana on the 
road. 

759
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:15,590
They barely beat Northwestern on
the road. 

760
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:20,200
They they lost to Wisconsin. 
But then you know they but they 

761
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200
won their bowl game. 
They beat North Carolina State 

762
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520
and you know they they kind of 
squeaked. 

763
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880
If you can squeak to an 8 and 
five record. 

764
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,560
They kind of squeaked to an 8 
and five record last year. 

765
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,680
But they they do really look 
like a a team that needed a 

766
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,440
season like that to learn how to
win and now they've learned how 

767
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,480
to win. 
And there's just a real, I mean,

768
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160
and even in the, like I said, I 
think before you jumped on the 

769
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,150
podcast, even then that game 
against Charlotte where they 

770
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:51,790
struggled for about the 1st 2 
1/2 quarters, they really put it

771
00:40:51,790 --> 00:40:54,350
together in the last part of 
that game and then left with 

772
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:56,590
basically no doubt about who was
the better team. 

773
00:40:56,590 --> 00:41:00,630
And so that'll be interesting. 
I mean, I'm, I'm hopeful maybe 

774
00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:02,430
we'll get a reverse. 
Maybe Maryland won't take 

775
00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:05,590
Indiana seriously and Indiana 
will be able to use that to 

776
00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:08,190
their advantage. 
So yeah, look, do we have the 

777
00:41:08,190 --> 00:41:12,150
S&P prediction was 35 to 14? 
What would be your prediction in

778
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:13,830
this one? 
Oh man. 

779
00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:18,790
On the road. 
Can this offense score 14 

780
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:22,950
points? 
I I OK, I'll say. 

781
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:28,390
I'll say, like I'll say 2710 
Maryland, OK, I think, I think 

782
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:30,670
Maryland. 
I unfortunately feel like 

783
00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:32,310
they're going to score a lot of 
points in this game. 

784
00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:34,830
Like this feels like one of 
those death Blossom kind of 

785
00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:36,750
games that that gets out of 
control. 

786
00:41:37,710 --> 00:41:41,350
I also, I have my doubts about 
Indiana's offense on the road 

787
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:44,230
given that they troubled at home
even. 

788
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:51,040
And so I'm going to say probably
I'll say Maryland wins 41 to 16.

789
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,080
I think it's going to be one of 
those games where it look I 

790
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,560
think to some degree I think 
Indiana's going to, they still 

791
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,440
haven't demonstrated they can 
score in the red zone. 

792
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,070
So like, even if they get into 
that area, I worry about their 

793
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:04,790
ability to execute. 
And I think you might end up 

794
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:07,270
with Indiana moving the ball a 
bit because, you know, I think 

795
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:09,350
they will play better than they 
played against Akron, but having

796
00:42:09,350 --> 00:42:11,670
to settle for a lot of field 
goals because they can't get the

797
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:14,110
ball into the end zone. 
So hope I'm wrong. 

798
00:42:14,310 --> 00:42:17,030
Hope you're writer but not 
completely right. 

799
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:19,030
We'll see what happens with 
everything. 

800
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:21,630
But Taylor, thank you. 
I appreciate you taking the time

801
00:42:21,630 --> 00:42:24,990
to to hop on and always a 
pleasure to talk with you about 

802
00:42:24,990 --> 00:42:25,590
I U. 
Football. 

803
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:26,830
Yeah. 
Galen, you know I've been. 

804
00:42:26,830 --> 00:42:28,870
Watching I U football for 10 
years. 

805
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:31,690
Been writing about. 
I U football for seven years and

806
00:42:31,930 --> 00:42:34,770
my section is very happy to be 
on Crimson Cast. 

807
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:42,370
It's a business. 
Taylor, I just want to make that

808
00:42:42,370 --> 00:42:43,090
clear. 
No. 

809
00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:45,530
Anyway, Taylor Layman from Bite 
Size Bison. 

810
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:46,970
Thank you. 
Thanks all you folks for 

811
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:48,930
listening. 
We'll go ahead and wrap up here.

812
00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:52,330
Indiana of course 330 kick in 
College Park. 

813
00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:54,730
They take on the Maryland 
Terrapins on Big 10 Network. 

814
00:42:54,730 --> 00:42:57,650
So be sure to check that out. 
I'll be back with Scott Sunday 

815
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:59,970
morning. 
We'll do our regular recap of 

816
00:43:00,050 --> 00:43:03,410
the game, so be sure to tune in 
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817
00:43:03,530 --> 00:43:05,370
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818
00:43:05,530 --> 00:43:07,690
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819
00:43:07,690 --> 00:43:09,770
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820
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:11,490
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