1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,600 You're listening to the back home network presented by 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:20,600 home-field apparel. Welcome back to Crimson, Cask 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,400 ale and clavius got Colville joining you a Victorious, 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Saturday here. The 18th of February Indiana, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,700 knocks off the Illinois Fighting Illini. 6 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:30,600 They sweep the Rivalry. Series. 7 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:38,700 Whatever and they end up with a tenth win in the Big Ten for the 8 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:44,500 first time since the 2016 season a tough game, we're going to 9 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:49,800 talk through what all happened in it and how it played out and 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,800 just, you know, the importance of the game. 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,500 Because I think this was really a tremendously important game 12 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:58,300 for IU in terms of where they've gotten their season and what 13 00:00:58,300 --> 00:00:59,900 they like to do with it. Moving forward. 14 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:03,200 Scott, great to see you. This is a rare T, we didn't wait 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,599 till Sunday morning. We're doing this. 16 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,000 Like right after the game. Essentially, how you doing? 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,200 I'm doing great. Yeah, I saw a tweet God, I 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,400 forget, I apologize. If somebody from the IDS was 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,400 like Indiana beach checks, his notes, their rival, Illinois 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,600 with the Joe from 131. We talked about Rivals, like I 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,100 wouldn't put. Illinois is like, I would say, 22 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:25,500 Obviously produce a number one rival. 23 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,300 Like I think Michigan. We've had a weird rivalry with, 24 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:29,400 like, they've been good and we've been good. 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,100 Like I'm Rutgers is way up the list. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,300 Me too. It's like I would forget about 27 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:35,700 Illinois. I'd probably have, you know, 28 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:37,300 other people ahead of it's one of the weird thing. 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,000 It should be a great rivalry. I mean, for the, what happened 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,300 in the 80s and the fact that, you know, it's like, I think 31 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:45,400 it's, like, Purdue Indiana, and Illinois. 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,800 Like those are the top three winningest basketball programs 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,000 in the history of the league and Illinois, Indiana has gotten so 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,600 many players out of Illinois and yet the juice just isn't there? 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,100 It just it's never really been one of the, I mean, I feel like 36 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:02,100 Illinois and Purdue are bigger, right? 37 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:04,500 Also, you know, certainly Illinois, and Iowa are bigger 38 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:08,000 Rivals, and it's just an odd Quirk of things, even in 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,199 football, like, that should be a big football rivalry. 40 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,400 Indiana, Illinois. And it's just not there either. 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,100 So the Big Ten doesn't let us ever play lots of great Point. 42 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:18,000 Yeah partly what it might have been at one point certainly 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,500 isn't any more like you mentioned? 44 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:21,400 The Indiana. Purdue Illinois, one of my 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,700 favorite questions. My favorite trivia questions is 46 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:28,300 the winningest coach in Big Ten in the 1980s is who you know, 47 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:30,900 it's who had some yeah yeah it's wild. 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 They were a very consistent. Stunt team in the 80s and and 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,600 somehow managed to win almost nothing the entire decade. 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,500 It was very odd. That is very, very Illinois. 51 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:43,700 I mean if you think about it like the they had probably the 52 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:47,300 single best team from a talent perspective in the entire league 53 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:53,100 in the 1989 team and yet they they only won a share of one big 54 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:57,300 ten title and that was in 1984. And you know, so for all of the 55 00:02:57,300 --> 00:03:00,600 success that they actually had they were always like second 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,600 place and It's kind of an interesting Oddity. 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Anyway, Indiana wins, we're going to talk about that. 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,900 We're going to talk about the tournament selection committee 59 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:13,300 reveal that happened at halftime of the game or thereabouts. 60 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:16,800 And what all that means is well first just a reminder we're part 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,200 of the back home network. 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They were favored by slightly 86 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:33,100 more in the computers and then As it turned out, they didn't 87 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:36,800 have arguably their best player in this game. 88 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:41,100 As Terrence Shannon had suffered a concussion against Penn State 89 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,900 was out for this game. A lot of people including the 90 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:46,100 betting line immediately were like, well in the end is going 91 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:48,700 to win this one going away. Not so fast. 92 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:52,200 My friend is Lee, Corso would say as Illinois came out loaded 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,200 for bear in this one, they were ready to play. 94 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,000 They were active. I think I was a little overly 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,300 critical of IU in the first half when I said that, they were 96 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,500 getting like severely outplayed by. 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,700 So annoyed or out effort it. But they were getting out 98 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:09,100 efforting and Illinois, like clearly came out and had a plan. 99 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:12,700 They made life hard on Trace Jackson, Davis, they got a great 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,000 first half out of Matthew Myer. And, you know, I honestly, at 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,200 halftime Indiana, had to feel really lucky to only be down by 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,600 three points, given how much in Illinois was playing it at such 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,700 a high level throughout that first 20 minutes. 104 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:31,200 So, from a high level, here's what I take away from this game 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,100 and I Breaking news. I'm kind of changing my tune on 106 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:38,600 this team. Oh I'm I'm getting rid of the 107 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:41,800 feeling of being anxious with this team. 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,900 Like I'm I think I've bought in I think it's like, you know, 109 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:48,500 we've made up for our past sins. I've, you know, did you cheat on 110 00:05:48,508 --> 00:05:50,500 me before? I'll forgive you now and I'm 111 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:54,100 totally forgiven. This was just a great win in 112 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:55,900 the, it's like a game. You just have to win and they 113 00:05:55,900 --> 00:06:00,100 found a way to win it. There are concerning things that 114 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:02,500 the starts not great summer. Moments where they're, you know, 115 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:04,800 not playing great to even great defensively. 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,700 Even the last play where Miller cop doubles and it's like Lisa 117 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:11,800 got wide open for a three but he missed it at me like and it 118 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:15,400 wasn't the best defensive play but you still put yourself in a 119 00:06:15,407 --> 00:06:17,900 spot where your up three and Illinois had to hit a three to 120 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:21,000 wit to tie. They didn't do it and something 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 you and I have talked about so much this year's kind of this, 122 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 you know, having like I'm not sure I have the confidence to 123 00:06:25,808 --> 00:06:28,500 fully trust this team again. And what has changed for me now 124 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,500 is like, I'm there because when you look at the totality of 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,800 They've done since that Penn State game, they lost two games. 126 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,800 And basically, you know, a month and a half and one of those 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,700 games the Northwestern game like, yeah, they started off bad 128 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:45,200 but they made a comeback. They did the same thing to the 129 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,600 end of their comeback. The Maryland game. 130 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:49,300 Yes, a stinker is actually closer than eleven point loss 131 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:52,900 but it was a stinker even go the rest of the year, the Penn State 132 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:55,300 game fine, it's a stinker Northwestern, they got 133 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:57,700 outplayed, but they still came back in that game, at the end, 134 00:06:57,700 --> 00:06:58,700 made it closer than it should have. 135 00:06:58,707 --> 00:07:01,400 Been the Iowa game, they were in that game. 136 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:04,700 They blew the doors off early. They kind of let go of, but they 137 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:07,700 played really well, Kansas, they got blown out of Kansas fight, 138 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,800 but 73 team in the country. You and I were at the Arizona 139 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,100 game they lost but they made runs in that game. 140 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:16,400 They got it within three to five and then yeah, they lost at 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,300 Rutgers fine, Rutgers stuff. Team like there's three games 142 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:22,600 there where it's like they just they lost all the other ones 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,900 they've had fight and they've given fight back and like I'm 144 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:27,300 kind of come to this realization. 145 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:30,200 Like this is the profile of a 325 seed in the tournament. 146 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,100 Like we're not going to go into Eat it. 147 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,800 We're not going to win out and we're a flawed team, but that's 148 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,200 fine. There's a lot of fun teams in a 149 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,400 lot of teams that, you know. But then I, I'm just so 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,200 impressed with the fight of this team. 151 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,100 And there's a lot of things that gets ugly, it's in the great 152 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,300 that they won. And you can say the same thing 153 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,200 for the Michigan game. You can say the same thing for 154 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,300 the Rutgers game at home, like they're finding ways to win 155 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:54,600 these games. And at some point, it's not just 156 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,500 luck. It is muscle memory at 157 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:57,800 something. This team has learned to do and 158 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,400 even in the losses outside of again, Rutgers Kansas and 159 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:05,700 Maryland, they've put up a valiant fight to come back or to 160 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:09,200 get a lead in those losses. And so to me they look at the 161 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,900 team in totality. It's like yeah they're probably 162 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:13,400 not gonna win the title. Probably going to the final 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,200 four, like, at some point we're going to be like really 164 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,400 disappointed with something. But this team has shown in his 165 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 earned, our respect to be like they are going to fight. 166 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:23,000 They're going to fight through everything and yeah they're 167 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,300 flawed, they have two good players, they don't really have 168 00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:28,300 a great bench, maybe they get it at home sometimes. 169 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 But anyway, that's that was the big turning point for me is like 170 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:35,100 I'm now just going to enjoy the ride and know that. 171 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:38,299 Even if they get down there, they're going to mount some kind 172 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:41,000 of come back and find a way to claw grip. 173 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Stop things and then push forward from it. 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 And I'll just finally say this like Trish Jackson, Davis is 175 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,800 just amazing to watch me. You, you tree tweeted something 176 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,900 ESPN, tweeted out. Like I'll just read it out that 177 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,300 he recorded his fourth. Career game with 25 points, 10 178 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:00,700 rebounds and 5 blocks. Just take a moment to enjoy that 179 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:02,800 but no other player. Of the Big Ten is done that one 180 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,000 such time in the last 25 years. In fact, the rest of the Big Ten 181 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,800 is recorded five. Only five such games over that 182 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,100 span like it. You're you're getting to a point 183 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,800 where you can have the conversation without being crazy 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,100 that he really might be the Big Ten Player of the Year in the 185 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:21,100 National Player of the Year. Anyway, that's those are 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,700 high-level thoughts and then just a quick tjd thing. 187 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:30,000 Look, honestly, who knows? I mean on the tjd part it's he I 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,300 think. Look, I'll just say he should be 189 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,300 the She'll player of the year. He should be the Big Ten player 190 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:35,100 of the year. He's a more versatile player. 191 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:43,300 He is both I think he's a more impressive overall performer 192 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,600 than Zach Edie even though exact. 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,600 He does is awesome. So much of Zaki. 194 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,300 These statistical contributions. Come down to two things, his 195 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:54,900 ability to finish, and his ability to grab offensive 196 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:56,400 rebounds. And those are very, very 197 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,900 important things but for Trace tracks and Davis to put up the 198 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,600 types of performances. He's Putting up, I mean, as good 199 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,000 as a key D has been this year, we've seen players do that in 200 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,300 scoring and offensive rebounding before. 201 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:13,200 I don't think we've seen a player in the Big Ten and quite 202 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,200 a while have quite the filled out. 203 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Bouquet of statistical contributions that Trace 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Jackson. Davis has been able to get out 205 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,900 there on a nightly basis. It's just, it's insane. 206 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,400 So, anyway, that said, I'll go back to some things that you 207 00:10:26,408 --> 00:10:28,300 were talking about. We were talking about them on 208 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:31,400 assembly call, and I think it's really important. 209 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,400 That I you fans, chill as Scott has decided to finally on this 210 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,100 team because look join me, it's great. 211 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:43,100 It's and I've tried to talk about this a little bit on the 212 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:47,600 podcast, I've tried to talk about it on Twitter, it is hard 213 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,500 to win, basketball games, basketball games are 40 minutes 214 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:56,100 and at the end, somebody wanted somebody lost and we've had some 215 00:10:56,100 --> 00:11:00,900 really good teams that people have forgotten how close the 216 00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:03,100 games. That they won along the way 217 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:07,400 actually were, you know, that I always the 87 teams, a great 218 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,300 example of this, that team only lost four times, but that team 219 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,800 like they only beat, you know, Minnesota. 220 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,900 I think they went to throw it was that they beat Minnesota by 221 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:17,800 one. They do. 222 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,500 Go to three overtimes to beat a terrible, Wisconsin team. 223 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:23,900 They beat Northwestern by to this happens. 224 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:26,200 Even two really good teams now. I don't think Indiana. 225 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,800 This year is anywhere close to what that team was. 226 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:34,500 But this team has Both the kind of grit that you need to win 227 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:37,000 close games against teams that are relatively similar 228 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,300 talent-wise, which I think that was the case today and they are, 229 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,600 there are fascinating team to watch because they they do 230 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,800 things in a way that doesn't really allow them to blow 231 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,700 opponents out. They don't have a lot of really 232 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:53,300 highly athletic players on the wings that are going to score a 233 00:11:53,308 --> 00:11:56,400 lot of points in transition. They very much have to play a 234 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,800 set style of offense and the whole purpose of this is the 235 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,200 offense is to get the ball on the post, because they are so 236 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,900 good. Good scoring within four or five 237 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:06,200 feet of the basket. So they're very efficient team. 238 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,500 They're just a very different look from what most people are 239 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:11,200 used to. And I think the problem that 240 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Indiana fans are dealing with is twofold one. 241 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:17,900 They're used to seeing teams that are a lot more athletic, 242 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:22,300 not at IU, but in other places and that becomes the Avatar. 243 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:24,800 Like you watch this, Iowa State, Kansas game that I'm watching 244 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,100 right now. They kind of want to see that 245 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,700 sort of play where, you know, you have four guys who can make 246 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:31,400 a play at any one time. Indiana is not really guilty. 247 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,500 That way and yet I don't think it even has any less effective 248 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:38,000 for that Indiana's. Got the up the ability to have 249 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,500 amazing offensive stretches amazing defensive stretches. 250 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:44,900 They don't always happen at the same time but a lot of are you 251 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:47,600 fans? I think are so they're so 252 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,600 mentally beaten down by the lack of success. 253 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,500 That Indiana has had over the last seven years that their 254 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:57,000 first reaction to Indiana. Having a bad half or having a 255 00:12:57,008 --> 00:12:59,300 bad 10 minutes is like well, same old Hoosiers. 256 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:01,300 They suck this through that. The, you know why? 257 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Why did we buy into this team when it's clear? 258 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,900 They don't have it and yet they keep coming up in either winning 259 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,600 or almost winning these games. At the end it's time to give 260 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,600 them a break. As Scott has decided to do. 261 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,600 It's time to just be like look this team is going to have some 262 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,900 games that aren't a whole lot of fun but winning is fun at the 263 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:20,600 end of it all and you'd rather be sitting there after a not so 264 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,300 fun game and saying well 19 and 8 and and what? 265 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:28,300 10 and 8 in the conference, I mean or whatever the numbers are 266 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,600 it's it's a good spot to be in. And if you're looking for a 267 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,700 Picasso out of IU, on a nightly basis, you're going to be 268 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:38,100 disappointed. Maybe stop looking for that. 269 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,900 Well, it's just, it's nice to have a team that has fight and 270 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:45,600 comes back in games and you know, earlier versions of 271 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Indiana and previous years would have probably lost the game 272 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,900 today. But after 12 point questionably. 273 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:53,900 Yeah we're done with this and and I think it's a good time for 274 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:56,500 fans to chill. Join me on the show bus lots of 275 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:59,800 seats because we're probably going to have a rough week like 276 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,300 we're going to Michigan State. We've never played. 277 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,600 Well there and as you've mentioned on assembly called 278 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,600 today and many times before, like it's just nobody's winning 279 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,100 on the road and nobody wins the road, the Big Ten, like we're 280 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,000 probably going to lose their. We're probably lose the Purdue 281 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:16,000 but you know I was listening to you as an assembly call. 282 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Like the other thing too is like we played ourselves into a 283 00:14:19,008 --> 00:14:23,000 position with what we've done and winds like today that those 284 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,500 two losses like it's not going to help. 285 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:27,300 We're not going to jump a seed line, but we're kind of locked 286 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,600 in where we come home and can can hold serve at home, which I 287 00:14:30,608 --> 00:14:35,000 think that we In, we're firmly, looking at it for five seed and 288 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,900 I think that's where you need to take a collective breath and and 289 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:42,500 yeah like you know in a way the next two games are kind of gravy 290 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,500 like and it's like if you get your doors blown off at one of 291 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:47,700 them in a weird way and I'm going to come back to the 292 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:49,000 Illinois game. It's like you could use that. 293 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 It's time to sit sit, you know, jack shit, you know, Jackson 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,700 Davis or Hutch features. Give him some rest times your 295 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:55,900 down 15 emissions. Have all right, you know 296 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:57,400 whatever. Like and let's say you give away 297 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,900 his games but that's I think it's a great time to chill. 298 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,300 Especially going into the week ahead. 299 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,300 Because we're probably going to lose two games and not that 300 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:06,300 losses don't matter but in this reality it kind of doesn't 301 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:10,200 you're definitely playing with house money and look, it's I get 302 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,300 that it's frustrating. It's frustrating for me to like 303 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:15,700 I was very frustrated in the first half because there's just 304 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:18,000 little things that Indiana was struggling to do. 305 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:22,100 But again, it's a 40-minute game and this team has proven that 306 00:15:22,100 --> 00:15:25,700 there are few deficits that are too big for them to overcome and 307 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:27,200 get themselves back into the game. 308 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,700 And a lot of it starts on the defensive end and this is a 309 00:15:30,708 --> 00:15:33,100 tired. It's a team that is relying. 310 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:37,100 So heavily on two players to carry, basically the entire 311 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:41,400 offensive burden that you're going to have some lulls and 312 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,800 this is what happens in February and this is something where 313 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,600 because Indiana is not been irrelevant team on the national 314 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,800 picture. I think people forget this like 315 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:54,000 everybody struggles in February and, you know, the question is 316 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,900 not, are you going to struggle in February? 317 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:59,300 The question is, are you going to allow it to negatively affect 318 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:02,700 the way that your season goes? I mean, if I'm Illinois, I'm not 319 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:05,300 too worried about losing this game and losing two in a row 320 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:09,400 because at least in this game, you showed fight you showed the 321 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,000 ability to come back. If you don't make as many 322 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 mistakes as Illinois made particularly the second half, 323 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,700 they probably win the game. If I'm Indiana, I don't look at 324 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:17,800 this and say, well, gosh, we played bad. 325 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:20,100 I'm like, well, we played a 40-minute game and we played a 326 00:16:20,108 --> 00:16:23,600 team that's a solid single digit NCAA tournament seed. 327 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:27,000 They, they came out with a lot to prove because we kick their 328 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,800 ass and champagne a month ago and they came out and Like they 329 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,400 had something to prove and yet we were able to sustain off of 330 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 that and Come Away with the Victory. 331 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,800 And so look ultimately, this is not a perfect team. 332 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,300 It's not a top five team, this Indiana team, but it doesn't 333 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,800 have to be because there aren't any perfect teams. 334 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,500 And there's even the top five, I don't think anybody's really 335 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:53,100 sure who the actual top five teams are in this country. 336 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:58,800 Indiana has ingredients when they play well, that make them 337 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,300 as difficult to beat as anybody in the country. 338 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,500 Tree and today was an example of that. 339 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:08,200 And I understand I you fans want perfect games and this and that 340 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:10,200 this is still a 15 that's got a lot of flaws. 341 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,400 Got a lot of young players having to play major minutes. 342 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,800 I'm just excited that for the first time in what feels like 343 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,200 forever. It feels like this. 344 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,599 Indiana team can compete in these sorts of games down the 345 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:25,000 stretch and I think as recently as a month month and a half ago, 346 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,800 Scott, we were kind of convinced of the opposite and it's really 347 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,100 heartening to see Indiana in such a tough stretch. 348 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,000 Coming up with victories, albeit, you know, being at home. 349 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:36,700 But even that Michigan Road game, it's like you look at that 350 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:38,400 game. That's another example of a game 351 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,900 that I think Indiana losses in the last five or six seasons 352 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,100 completely agree. And the thing that is also 353 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:48,500 Shield me out more over the last couple of weeks, it's just come 354 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:52,000 to the realization that, you know, we're getting that fight 355 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,200 again. Today is just like, in capsulize 356 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:59,100 this, they, they fight back and find a way to win a game that 357 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,200 they frankly, were felt like they were out of it. 358 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,400 Point your times the second half and the other thing too is the 359 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,000 the issues with this team are kind of unsolvable like they 360 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,600 just are like and you're going to have, you know, fits and 361 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,700 stops. You're going to have moments 362 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:14,100 where the offense can't run. And that's because there's like 363 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:17,000 there's just two really good players in this team and there's 364 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,900 not a lot of bench. Guys, you can reliably count on 365 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:24,300 like Miller cop is starting to play more reliably and I think 366 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,100 that's what's been helping in this 8-game win. 367 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:29,000 But Trey Galloway is hit and miss a little more hit than 368 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,100 this. You know, tomorrow Bates is 369 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,800 hit-and-miss. Thompson's rookies way back into 370 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,900 shape. And I, you know, if you played 371 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:38,500 well today but an ABO, they play better at home worse on the 372 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,400 road, but it's like that's just not going to be solved. 373 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:41,700 Like you're just not going to solve that. 374 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:43,200 And what's this doing? The best he can. 375 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,700 But he could only there's not, you know, another Trace. 376 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:47,200 Yesterday was the fence, you can pull out. 377 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,100 So, you know, in a way, it's kind of like not that we can't 378 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:54,500 lament some of these issues, but they are just these are flaws of 379 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:56,500 the team that are going to be. They're moving through the 380 00:18:56,500 --> 00:19:01,400 important thing is we're able to stop, you know, realize the Is 381 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,600 make adjustments and then find ways to win these games and 382 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,400 again and not getting too high but it's just you you're going 383 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,400 to have these moments in, you know, the tournament where you 384 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,000 get down by, you know, seven, eight, nine points like we did 385 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,900 today and it's like, all right, what are we going to do it? 386 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,800 Let's change things up and let's find a way to break it and and 387 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,800 let's go there. I want to Circle back to the 388 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,900 Illinois, game real quick. That like a play that in 389 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:28,400 capsulize. Has this for me, is something 390 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,500 that Jalen Hood should be no did at the end of the game. 391 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,600 So, There's the ball out of bounds which is like off. 392 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:36,600 Illinois's got like ten minute review for no reason. 393 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:39,700 We get the ball and then you know, we come out. 394 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:43,000 I got we finally got the got the ball and then hook your feet of 395 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,800 just makes a lazy patch of stupid pass. 396 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,100 It's a layup, it's like great. He made a mistake. 397 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:51,600 What does he do? Immediately comes back and just 398 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,200 little curl screen, goes up and hits a shot. 399 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,700 Kind of almost like my bad. Like let me fix my mistake and I 400 00:19:57,708 --> 00:20:01,100 just thought that was such a cool to play moment. 401 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:02,900 Where? Yeah, he made a mistake. 402 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:05,600 He's a freshman people make mistakes, but he didn't Wilt 403 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,300 from it, but he honestly came back as with the, with the 404 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:10,700 intention of like, not only am I, okay? 405 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,000 And like I'm gonna forget it like, I'm going to make up for 406 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,100 it and get us back to a tied ball game. 407 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:18,800 And it was almost like it was like 20 seconds then we're back 408 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,000 to time. It's like none of it mattered. 409 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,900 In the first place it was just, it was a great play. 410 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:26,400 I gotta say. The the amount of negativity 411 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,100 surrounding Jalen Hurd Jaffe know. 412 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:32,100 From some aspects of the IU fan base, On the one hand, I 413 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:35,700 understand on the other hand I think people are nuts. 414 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,300 He's got it. He's well look I think I think 415 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:45,600 the problem is people, he's so good individually at making 416 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,000 plays and he's also still trying to figure out the full extent of 417 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,900 what he can do. And what the timing is on things 418 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:57,100 that I think for a lot of people, they love to focus on 419 00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:00,900 the problems that he occasionally creates for IU 420 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,100 while. Ignoring all of the good things 421 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,600 that he's doing for the team. And it's interesting because 422 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,700 like, as much as people complain about say his turnovers, you 423 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:14,600 know, I always like to remind people that, you know, Yogi 424 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,700 Ferrell who people consider an old-time player at IU. 12 Big, 425 00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:24,100 Ten titles Yogi, Ferrell had a turnover rate of 25% in his 426 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,800 freshman year. Jalen, atrophy know, is less 427 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,500 than that. He's a 22%. 428 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:31,600 You're going to get if you put a freshman in charge of the All 429 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,200 you're going to get some passes that aren't great. 430 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,100 You're going to get, you know, ideas that aren't fully formed 431 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,800 because they're still trying to develop their role. 432 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,200 And this is a guy who's had to step in overcome a back injury 433 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,500 that kept him out for most of December, take over as the 434 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:51,200 starting point guard, right out of that and figure out in the 435 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,500 middle of Big Ten play how to be a starting point guard and and 436 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:59,100 he's had to be essentially the second scoring option during 437 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:03,200 that time as well with. Lee only one offensive play to 438 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800 go off of in the first place, which is let's pass the ball to 439 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,600 trace Jackson Davis. While also being the defensive 440 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,200 stopper of the best point guard in what what he is doing right 441 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,700 now is just I think that you're going to get a lot of people 442 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:18,300 that will, they will leave this season thinking will Jalen Hurd 443 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:20,200 your fee? No, kept I you from reaching X Y 444 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,200 or Z, no, Jalen. Atrophy knows. 445 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,500 The reason, Indiana is winning a lot of these games now, was he? 446 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:29,200 You know, when you look at what he did today, this was not one 447 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,600 of his best games, but the fact that he's Jerk-off, a 14-8 448 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,400 shooting performance in the first half played as well as he 449 00:22:35,408 --> 00:22:38,400 did in the second half. It overcame mistakes down the 450 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,900 stretch. You just don't get that out of 451 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:43,000 those types of players that often. 452 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,700 It's very rare to have a freshman who's capable mentally 453 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,200 of processing things that way. And so I love what he brings to 454 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,100 the table. And I think with so much on his 455 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:57,300 shoulders, the fact that he's able to do as much as he does, 456 00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:01,000 you take some of the bad because there's so much good and so 457 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,500 much. That props, this team up, you 458 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:06,000 know, on the perimeter and with where everything's supposed to 459 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,100 go and he's done all of this essentially being pressed into 460 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,500 service because they don't have the guy who was supposed to be 461 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,600 doing that job and they haven't had him since the middle of 462 00:23:13,608 --> 00:23:16,600 December. I also love his play, I think 463 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,900 after that score, it's just so telling after the Northwestern 464 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:23,200 game, were buoys able just to push off to create a bunch of 465 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,700 space. And then how the guy for 466 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:27,100 Illinois is driving down. It's like so we have the 467 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:28,500 opposite were jailed Hutch, vetoes. 468 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:31,700 Just going to I'm going to play very tight but not You and then 469 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,200 block the shop, but that's a foul on me. 470 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,400 It's like, it's got it, we can't have it. 471 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,800 I know, I know I, you know, and honestly, I mean, I didn't think 472 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,700 the officials had a bad game today. 473 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:42,900 They had a couple of bad calls on Illinois. 474 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,400 That Indiana benefited from the Hawkins technical foul that not 475 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,000 calling a travel on renew, when he fell to the ground with the 476 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,300 basketball in the lane but that was a terror. 477 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,900 I mean, it just, it just no consistency and you know, it's 478 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:57,900 like that's a foul in the closing seconds, but the buoy 479 00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:59,800 thing wasn't a foul. The closing seconds, I make a 480 00:23:59,808 --> 00:24:02,200 whole lot of so it didn't matter if he The end of the day in this 481 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,100 game, but it is really annoying. So yeah, no. 482 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:08,200 I mean, look, looking at the rest of the players on the team, 483 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,000 a couple of the things to note, you know, first of all, this was 484 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,900 a, whose a sneaky good game from Trey Galloway in that he didn't 485 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,500 score normally, you know, you and I have talked a lot about 486 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:23,100 how offensively aggressive. Trey Galloway is normally the 487 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,500 best trade Galloway for what this team needs. 488 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,300 They got the points. Elsewhere Miller cop was the one 489 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,900 that was able to do the scoring. You know, but Galloway to have 490 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:35,900 five assists. No, turnovers in 31 minutes. 491 00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:38,000 Play pretty good defense the whole time. 492 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,700 Really. Did make a big difference for 493 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,100 this team offensively because they had to have Jay Lamont 494 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:46,600 Ruffino in the second half and more of a scoring mode and trade 495 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,200 Gala was able to shoulder the burden in terms of distribution. 496 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:53,200 That was really good to see and we talked about this on the last 497 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,500 podcast. It be great if you didn't have 498 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:58,200 to play tray, Galloway 30 some minutes. 499 00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:01,200 But the fact that you are and against the team I going Oh, 500 00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:05,400 he's so athletic and and so like mid-sized, like you can't really 501 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,200 play three, Biggs you know, you've got to play a guy like 502 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,700 like Trey Galloway who's 65 66 can defend in that area or 64 I 503 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:15,700 guess he is. That was really an important 504 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:17,800 aspect of the game that will kind of get lost when you go 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,300 back and look at the stat sheet. No, I agree that they got think 506 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:25,700 about what Shay Galloway. We know he's good at it from 507 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,700 being an Indiana fan but his little floater shot. 508 00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:31,600 It just it does look so bad what he misses like he had Today 509 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,600 where it's like, it's a little floater. 510 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,900 It's like it's like, wow, it's not a great job. 511 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:37,700 No I agree. And you and this is where we 512 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:40,600 talked about it last time. Let's not get our hopes to 513 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,700 pinned on Xavier Johnson just being the Superman because we 514 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:46,700 don't know what Xavier Johnson were getting back. 515 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:49,200 I just know knocked him. It's just too mean the guy's 516 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,400 been out for three months or two and a half months, it takes time 517 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,000 to get back from injuries. Takes time to get back to 518 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,200 playing Guess takes time to now he's got to figure out his role 519 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:59,200 like jail would be no took Israel all that but all of that 520 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,800 said if We get Xavier Johnson back kind of at the same level. 521 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,200 We're getting with race Thompson. 522 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,300 Now, there that is the real upside to this team is. 523 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,600 Now, more importantly, you can move tray, Galloway's minutes, 524 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,800 down to like 25 May and not an effort thing, but maybe try 525 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,500 Galloway can like, even go. I don't want to say harder is 526 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:24,900 not the right word but just like, no, like I can go 527 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,300 completely balls to the wall, but I'm not saying he's not 528 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:29,800 doing that but it's like, you can go really hard, like, renew 529 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:32,000 is now down to 13. Working like that. 530 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,400 To me, that's what really Xavier Johnson. 531 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,100 Brings is if he can give you 13 or 14 very quality minutes, it 532 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,800 just pulls everyone else minutes. 533 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,900 Load back to kind of where it should be. 534 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,300 And then I will say, well, we're talking about individual 535 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:50,300 performances race Thompson is rounding into form. 536 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,600 Like today, he was finishing at The Rim, he's starting to get a 537 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,400 little more lift, 22 points. I'm sorry. 22 minutes, but 10 538 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,100 points on 47 shooting and if he can continue this trajectory 539 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Victory. It just, it gives Trace another 540 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,700 another point and it gets us back to where, you know, we 541 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,500 thought we were going to be and we never really got the season 542 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,000 where you have this, you know, three headed monster so to speak 543 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,400 of Trace Jackson Davis and then race Thompson. 544 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,700 And Malik were knew where you can play all three of them as 545 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,000 like, what does the other team do defensively or you can play 546 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:24,000 you know Hood Shafi. No and Xavier Johnson and Trey 547 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,800 Galloway and give them some guard problems. 548 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,100 Like we've never had all those pieces together and a weird way 549 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:32,600 maybe it is all going to work out because was renew wasn't 550 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,400 ready to do that at the beginning of the year and now he 551 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,100 is but it's nice to see race Thompson coming back into form 552 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,400 and be able to be that post presence that you know. 553 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,700 And again it just it shows what having that you know 60 or 554 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,100 senior does he's in the right places, making the right plays. 555 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:54,500 And again last thing I'll say just you're getting a lot of 556 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:59,600 positive Scott here but You know, when you look at the 557 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,300 profile of a team like this, I'm not saying it guarantees 558 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:08,200 anything in March. But these are the types of teams 559 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,400 that over the years would be doing well in March. 560 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,700 And I'm always like, damn why can't we have a team like that 561 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:17,900 where you have great guard play and you have really good, 562 00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,400 veteran players, who were able to just to, you know, they've 563 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,900 been through the battles. Like, we have that with race and 564 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,100 Trace Jackson Davis. And then we have the stud guard 565 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,100 with Jaylin. Cioppino. 566 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,700 And if we get Xavier back we have a 50 or guard their like we 567 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,100 have experienced. We have youth. 568 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:35,300 Like we have all the pieces of a team that normally does pretty 569 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:38,100 well in March. Yeah, I mean look ultimately, 570 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,700 this team has all the pieces, the big question mark is just 571 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:46,400 going to be, you know, can those pieces contribute in tandem with 572 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,100 each other, when the games are on the line and that's what is 573 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:53,600 left to be determined, you know? But I think that the fact 574 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,400 Indiana can get these sorts of games out. 575 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,000 And look, I think I think To some degree underestimated 576 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,100 Illinois, because of how well Indiana played against Illinois 577 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,900 in the first game. And we've seen that so many 578 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:06,400 times. You blow a team out on the road 579 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,700 and it's hard to take them seriously mentally when you play 580 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,500 them the next time, particularly when they're missing their best 581 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,800 player, but what matters at the end of the day is like, okay, 582 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,800 you're going to have bad games, can you win those games? 583 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,100 And can you do it down the stretch? 584 00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:22,400 I mean, one of the things that's interesting about Purdue right 585 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,300 now. As a comparison point, is that 586 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:27,700 Purdue won a bunch of games. Like this earlier on in the 587 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:29,800 season, that's really how they built their lead in the Big Ten. 588 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,100 You know, they one by one at Michigan State. 589 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,800 They won by three at home against Maryland. 590 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,400 They won by two on the road against Ohio State. 591 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 There's several other games like that, you know, part of what 592 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400 made everybody in ambered with them was their grittiness and 593 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,200 their ability to pull games, like that out. 594 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,900 And then, once the game is done, nobody goes back and says, well, 595 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,200 you know, produce, not very good, because they're doing, you 596 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200 know, doing it that way. I think for Indiana going down, 597 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,500 the stretch, showing an ability to do that. 598 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,700 Demonstrates that you have a mental fortitude that frankly 599 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,400 just Indiana teams. Haven't had recently and I think 600 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,000 that ultimately that does matter in March, there's other factors 601 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,000 matchups are so important, you know, hitting shots is 602 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 important. But ultimately, if you have 603 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,300 those things, but you don't have the mental tenacity to handle, 604 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,100 adversity and bad situation. I think about, you know, I you 605 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,800 falls behind by 22 to Northwestern, they almost come 606 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,900 back and win the game. They're down by nine. 607 00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,100 And this game a couple of Times they're able to come back and 608 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,900 when they were down by, I think eight or nine against Michigan, 609 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,300 they're able to come back now. You'd rather they not fall down 610 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,000 like that and I do think that there's some things in the 611 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,600 enemies to do to figure out how to get into the game from the 612 00:30:38,608 --> 00:30:41,000 get-go. Not let themselves get into a 613 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,600 position where they have to come back. 614 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,000 But the fact that they're able to come back, you're going to 615 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,500 have games like that in a season unless you are the most dominant 616 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:52,100 talented team in college basketball, you're probably 617 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,500 going to have multiple ones like that and how you respond in 618 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:59,500 those games especially in. A really does tend to tell the 619 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,400 tale of how you are as a basketball. 620 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,100 Team one other Trend that I just want to want to point out is, 621 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,000 you know, Miller cop is shooting, get 46 percent from 622 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,200 three this year on 108th attempt. 623 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,000 So not not a small sample size, but the thing that I really like 624 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,600 is since the game Mission emission steak and he goes oh, 625 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,400 41 43. And that that followed a stretch 626 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,800 where you had, you know, to attempt 02, attempt 02, attempt 627 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,900 to kind of just doing to and One three-point attempts and, you 628 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:34,300 know, you and I were kind of, sorry, 112, 112 for attempts and 629 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:35,900 you would, I kind of threw out this kind of hit, you know, just 630 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:37,400 would love to see him shoot more, be a little more 631 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,200 aggressive starting at the Minnesota game, the road game 632 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,300 here, his three-point attempts, seven, three, four, three, six, 633 00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,900 three, four, five, like you've seen a shift, he's taking now, 634 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:52,100 three, four, five, three point shots a game. 635 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,900 And I think that's also helped Indiana during the stretch. 636 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:58,400 If you wanted a, he goes for 45. I mean, Again, I'll go back to 637 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000 it, he's shooting 46% for Billy. This is the Miller cop that we 638 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 wanted last year that we thought we were getting. 639 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000 But now he's shooting at a very high percentage. 640 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,900 And we're now we're adding, you know, three, four, five, six 641 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,900 shots a game for him. I think that's a really nice 642 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:17,900 wrinkle and this will I think this will continue to come into 643 00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:21,900 play as teams have less and less time to prepare for Indiana. 644 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,400 When you get into the Big Ten Tournament may be less because 645 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,800 they know the T, well, defeat such getting the be escalator. 646 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,300 Element is like you start prepping for this. 647 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,800 Like, all right, well, there's a guy who's shooting 48 percent, 648 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,600 fuel, 46 percent, from three is taking five. 649 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,700 Again, we've got a, you can't leave him the double. 650 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,000 So then it's like, maybe Trace doesn't get doubled as often, 651 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,700 you know, it's it, it's just a nice thing to see him, taking 652 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,500 more threes and consistently. Getting three, four, five threes 653 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,700 a game, because he has shown this year. 654 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,500 He's easily going to be shooting over 40% from three, which is 655 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,300 what we need and what we've been asking for. 656 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,800 But it's, I was talking a lot about this with Taylor Layman, 657 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,100 on text after the game. Like you just would love to see 658 00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:00,900 this team, take some more threes and it's clear that they have 659 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:05,300 been coached to turn down threes and dribble into the lane and 660 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:07,800 actually, Robbie Hummel, even mentioned it on the broadcast 661 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,100 today. Like Indiana turns down. 662 00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:13,100 Open threes for contested twos. It's not good policy. 663 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:15,400 Like it's a bad statistical decision. 664 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,800 I will I will I will argue that till till I'm blue in the face. 665 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,600 It's not a good idea and that's what made Miller. 666 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,800 Cops game today. I think so. 667 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:29,400 Orton for Indiana because maybe it will open their minds a 668 00:33:29,408 --> 00:33:31,700 little bit to the idea that catching and shooting is fine. 669 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:34,500 Now some of the problems that Miller cops had have been poor 670 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,900 passes out, you know, and we've seen that, I think kind of 671 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:42,200 throughout the season, but we saw Miller cop with a bona fide, 672 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,400 catch-and-shoot on the fourth three-pointer that he made in 673 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400 this game. And it was a really, really key 674 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000 three-pointer. They've got to get more of those 675 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,600 up and I would sacrifice, I think to some degree, my, my 676 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,900 guess would be that Woodson's. It was not just, let's practice 677 00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:02,700 threes and lets, you know, be better at making them which they 678 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,000 had been. But let's limit the number we're 679 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,199 taking until we're really sure that it's a good shot and that's 680 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,300 fine. But I think that at this point 681 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:17,800 Indiana is to some degree being left so alone on some of these 682 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,800 threes that they just need to let them fly because they're not 683 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,300 always getting good shots Inside by passing them up. 684 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,199 And it's one thing if you're Passing up a shot and then are 685 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,699 able to get it back down to trace Jackson, Davis for an 686 00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:34,400 efficient to, it's another if you're passing it up, dribbling 687 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,000 in you know three feet and then taking a 17-footer like that's 688 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,199 always a terrible shot. Tomorrow Bates did that we're in 689 00:34:40,207 --> 00:34:43,199 an open three. That's a 41% shot for tomorrow. 690 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,699 Bates dribbles in to the Elbow takes what is only a 45 percent 691 00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:50,500 shot from to and misses it and it's like that's a bad neck me 692 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,800 you know? Mathematical trade-off. 693 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Don't do that again. But yeah, I think I think cop 694 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,700 Bates Galloway. Jalen Hurd should be no, all of 695 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:01,900 those guys have proven themselves to be able to shoot 696 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:06,200 at least 35% from long range. If Indiana were to ever just let 697 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,300 it fly from long range and just be like, this is going to be 698 00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:13,300 part of our offensive game. I think it'd be fascinating but 699 00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:16,300 they are very it's weird. There's almost like a discipline 700 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:19,700 to the way, Indiana plays where we can't argue with the success 701 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:22,100 too much, because they've been able to survive this long and 702 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,800 have a top 25 offense, essentially by being so 703 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,200 disappointed, as much as we. We ask for these threes. 704 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,400 We may want to be careful what we're actually asking for 705 00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:34,600 totally totally agree. I have a larger question for 706 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,800 you, okay. So this is one of the it's right 707 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,700 about this time in the season. You know the NCAA came out with 708 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:44,500 their, your early projection. The top four seeds Indiana was 709 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:48,000 the number 14 seed. I do love this time of the 710 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,000 season because up to this point it's all been about the top 25. 711 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,700 Yeah, so your weight on Monday, you refresh the ESPN. 712 00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,600 Paige what's the top 25? Like you read set, Davis's 713 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,500 ranking, everyone's just myself included like where we rank 714 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,300 2014, 14, 13. And then it's funny because you 715 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:07,800 get to today and it's kind of like all right, who gives a 716 00:36:07,808 --> 00:36:09,300 shit? What RC like it from here on 717 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,500 out. It's like all you care about is. 718 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,900 See like we could drop the 18th and 21st of all. 719 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:15,900 If we could be unranked, it's like we're still a four seed, 720 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,000 don't care. Like you're not do not care. 721 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,700 It's just, it's funny how it matters. 722 00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:21,600 So much that all the sudden, like it just doesn't matter. 723 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,800 Now anyway, I think you said that some assembly call but I 724 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,700 want you to expand Don it this win. 725 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,300 It does kind of narrow it, where it does feel. 726 00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:35,900 Like, I think you said, like, the the floor for this team, it 727 00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:38,400 does feel like it's set at a five seed now. 728 00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:40,800 Explainer, expand on that. Yeah. 729 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,300 So you know the the tournament committee there, I have a lot of 730 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:48,100 criticisms of them over time for inconsistency and for just kind 731 00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:52,200 of being unnecessarily vague in terms of what the seating 732 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,300 procedures are going to. Because it's a little different 733 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:55,400 every year. It's one of the things about 734 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,600 Bracketology people don't entirely Grasp is that it's not, 735 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,200 it's not the same criteria applied equally, every single 736 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,200 time out, and that does, that's what makes it fun, but it's also 737 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,600 why it's frustrating. But anyway, they started doing 738 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,400 this thing about 10 8, 10 years ago, where right now, basically 739 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,900 the Daytona weekend, they'll release the like, where the 740 00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,600 committee has the top 16 teams in the s-curve. 741 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,300 So we find out who the ones the twos, the threes in the fours 742 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:26,500 are. And I did a bracket before that, 743 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,400 the This morning and what I do with the bracket, as I rank, all 744 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,900 the teams won through 68 that are going into the field and 745 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:33,400 that's that's called the s-curve. 746 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,400 I had Indiana 14th in that ranking and I was thinking I'm 747 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,900 probably over rating them, A bunch of people didn't even have 748 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:43,500 them in the top 16. Indiana was ranked 13th by the 749 00:37:43,508 --> 00:37:45,900 committee so they actually one spot better than me. 750 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,400 And what I always do in that situation is try to figure out. 751 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,800 Okay? What is the committee really 752 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,000 privileging in terms of resume? And I think what we can deduce 753 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,600 from this is that Indiana is in a great spot for a couple of 754 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,100 reasons. One, they have 12 wins right now 755 00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:08,100 against teams that would be estimated to be in the field. 756 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,100 And that's a huge number compared to some of the other 757 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,700 teams that are out there. Even some of the teams that 758 00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:17,400 they're slightly behind like Iowa state has seven wins 759 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,500 against a field and they were not going to pick another one up 760 00:38:19,508 --> 00:38:21,100 because they just lost to Kansas State. 761 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:24,900 You know, the teams at the very top like Kansas only has 13 wins 762 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:28,100 against the field. So So Indiana has done a lot of 763 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:31,100 work against teams that are going to be in the tournament. 764 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:36,000 And I think that that is something that they're not going 765 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,500 to lose a lot of ground on. They've got a chance actually 766 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:40,700 gain some more ground on it, because they get to play Iowa, 767 00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:42,900 they get to play Michigan State, they get to play Purdue. 768 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:45,000 They'll play probably at least one NCAA bound. 769 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,900 Team in the Big Ten Tournament. The other thing that I think is 770 00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:50,000 important, to keep in mind is that Indiana? 771 00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:52,900 Has played put Michigan as an inbound. 772 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:55,500 And so they're not like Michigan, is neither not in? 773 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:56,700 I mean, that's the thing. It's like Michigan. 774 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,500 His they had opportunities, and they blew it frankly. 775 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400 But the other thing I think is worth noting, is that the 776 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,400 committee does seem to be leaning heavily on what's your 777 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600 overall resume? There's several different 778 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,700 metrics, whether it's Sor, which is strength of record. 779 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,800 Is what that stands for, or kpi, or the the, the nitty-gritty 780 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,200 report that the jobi Fortson puts out Indiana in the 781 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,800 aggregate of those about 20th in the country. 782 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,500 But you combine that with the overall number of wins that 783 00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,500 they've got and The fact that they've got five wins away from 784 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,200 home, all of that together is pretty impressive. 785 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000 You know, they're, they're the only team that's won Xavier all 786 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,700 year, they're one of only two teams. 787 00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,500 That's wanted Illinois all year. They've swept Illinois, they 788 00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,100 beat Purdue, they beat Rutgers, they beat Michigan State. 789 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,700 Those are all really big accomplishments and literally 790 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:48,200 all of Indiana's losses have been two teams that are going to 791 00:39:48,207 --> 00:39:51,500 make the tournament with the exception of, I guess, Penn 792 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:55,200 State. And so that all put together, I 793 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,900 think puts Indiana and a real A good spot moving forward because 794 00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,900 even if they just lose the two Road games when the two home 795 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:06,300 games and go one-on-one in the Big Ten Tournament, not only do 796 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,800 I think that they will stick around as a four seed. 797 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,200 I think they've got a shot at moving up to a 3 because there 798 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,000 are some teams above them in this mix that are going to be 799 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,800 going the wrong direction. We talked about this a little 800 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:24,100 bit on the podcast earlier. You look at the, you know, like 801 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:27,100 Tennessee, being a great example, Tennessee lost today, 802 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,600 to Kentucky. That's a team that looks like 803 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:32,500 and feels like it's going the wrong direction and when you 804 00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:36,200 compare Indiana, and Tennessee is overall resumes, there's not 805 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,400 a whole lot for Tennessee. Now, other than In their, their 806 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,700 predictive ranking, like what it looks like, they would do, like 807 00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,200 their kin Palm ranking stuff like that, they'll still be 808 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,600 above Indiana in that, but not that much. 809 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,800 And then you look at the overall games that that there that 810 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,800 they've won Tennessee's, only 19 games against teams in the 811 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,200 tournament field. And the, so those are the kinds 812 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,700 of things where you look at it and you're like, what Indiana's 813 00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:03,900 done in the sorts of wins that they've picked up as carried 814 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:06,600 pretty well with the tournament selection committee. 815 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:09,000 And there's not a lot unless they lose one or both. 816 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000 Home games, the rest of the way that they can do to really 817 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,100 damage themselves. So, yeah, I agree, I think, I 818 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:18,200 think, right now would be a real surprise if Indiana fell below a 819 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,600 5, and I think there's a real shot for Indiana to move up to a 820 00:41:21,607 --> 00:41:24,300 three. If they can win games, you know, 821 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,900 if they can pull out one game, they're not expected to the rest 822 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,700 of the way and when the games that they are expected to, I 823 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:31,300 think that's right there on the table for them. 824 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,400 Just curious one BRAC more. Bracketology question. 825 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,700 You mentioned teams that could fall. 826 00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:37,100 What teams are you looking at that? 827 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:40,300 You'd be concerned could move up and Take take those spots away 828 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,600 from Indiana. It's interesting because, you 829 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,900 know, one of the big surprises to me was that Yukon and count 830 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:50,100 and Creighton. Neither of those two teams were 831 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:54,800 in the committee's top. 16? Certainly, those are teams that 832 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,900 I would look at and say they've both got a shot to make some hay 833 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,700 you know, because they're going to play some really good teams 834 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,100 down the stretch here. But I also don't know if either 835 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,100 team because of the losses that they've suffered is going to be 836 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:12,200 able to necessarily The exceed Indiana unless they win a bunch 837 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,700 of games on the road. You know, I certainly, you know, 838 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:19,300 if Marquette were to win out and win the big tent or the Big East 839 00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:21,600 outright, I could see them moving up to the 3. 840 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,200 Line ahead of Indiana. You know, Gonzaga is going to 841 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,600 get a couple of cracks at st.mary's here and if they win 842 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,300 both of those that'll help their overall same thing with Xavier 843 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,000 but Xavier's got injuries right now. 844 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,800 So I'm not sure that they're going to really be able to 845 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,900 overcome so No, I don't see the thing about Northwestern is I 846 00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:46,400 mean if Northwestern wins their games down the stretch, that's 847 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,900 one thing, but you know where Northwestern struggles exist are 848 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:54,200 as follows. They've got they've got three 849 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,000 losses that are going to kind of weigh them down a little bit. 850 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,300 Their predicted is really aren't great. 851 00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:01,600 Like you know, you can look at Indiana and say their predictive 852 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,100 pretty good and they've got a good resume northwestern's got a 853 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:08,900 good resume but they played and won so ugly that like Ken pon. 854 00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,700 Got them, 45th ppis got them 45th. 855 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:14,800 And while those things aren't weighing as heavily, you know, I 856 00:43:14,808 --> 00:43:18,000 think Northwestern right now would top out at probably a six 857 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,100 but you know, look I mean northwestern's got an 858 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,000 interesting schedule. The rest away they got Iowa at 859 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,900 home at Illinois at Maryland Penn State at home and at 860 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:29,900 Rutgers now if they ran the table on that they would 861 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,600 probably have a shot at a protected seed but honestly, if 862 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,500 Northwestern runs the table there, they're going to win the 863 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:37,300 Big Ten which that's a whole nother thing that we think 864 00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:39,400 about. But Is not. 865 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,100 I mean, you know, when I look at the, the board and the teams 866 00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:45,100 that I had right below, Indiana, when I was ranking them earlier 867 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,300 today, by the way, with Western runs that table, like, we need 868 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,600 to have the emergency pod, like, are we living in a computer 869 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,200 science? Not that point, I think we just 870 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,900 might just want to shut down college basketball. 871 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,400 That would be that like, you, look at the whe with Big Ten 872 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,600 Player of the Year, just. Yeah. 873 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,600 I mean, I'm gonna so if we accept the idea that okay 874 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,100 Indiana was ahead of Connecticut and Creighton, and I had them 875 00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,300 ahead of Creighton, but not Connecticut, but there are 876 00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:08,900 behind Kansas State and Iowa State, the rest of the teams 877 00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:11,000 before. Of them immediately on the 878 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000 s-curve, our Saint Mary's who has a ceiling on what they're 879 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,300 going to be able to do. Because they just don't play 880 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:20,200 that many good teams, other than Gonzaga TCU who has 881 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,100 opportunities but that you're kind of stuck in the mire there 882 00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:28,700 in the Big 12 Miami who's an interesting case. 883 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,900 But the ACC doesn't have that many good teams. 884 00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:34,500 Illinois who just lost Arkansas who just really doesn't have the 885 00:44:34,508 --> 00:44:37,400 profile and then Maryland who's the other team in the Big Ten 886 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,600 that I would be keeping an eye on because They do have the 887 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,800 opportunity off that Purdue win to really get a running. 888 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,900 Start into the rest of the season, you throw Northwestern 889 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:48,700 in there and then beyond that you're into that you're solidly 890 00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:51,800 into the 789 range, the Iowa's, the Auburn's the Dukes to 891 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,700 Pittsburgh's to the Rutgers even though they won the day on the 892 00:44:54,707 --> 00:44:58,200 road. So I like Indiana spot and I 893 00:44:58,207 --> 00:45:00,900 think this is one of those weird spots where I don't think I, you 894 00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,200 fans have properly valued their own team. 895 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,200 But the committee has seen what Indiana's done and I think what 896 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,900 Indiana has done is traveling. Really? 897 00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:11,000 All compared to what other teams are doing. 898 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,000 And I just the you know would have been great if Notre-Dame 899 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,400 and knocked off Virginia today, that didn't happen, you know? 900 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,300 But I think that there's a chance for like a team like 901 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:21,700 Tennessee to kind of fall out of the sky a little bit and 902 00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:25,000 Indiana's is as well. Positioned as anybody to try to 903 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,800 take over that spot. It's wild that we could be 904 00:45:27,808 --> 00:45:30,200 looking at a three seed in the tournament but yet can't get the 905 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,100 double by in the Big Ten Tournament. 906 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,800 Well, that's that's unbalanced scheduling for you, right? 907 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,900 I mean it's tough like with the wind today Indiana's. 908 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,400 Section in the Big 10 is 12 and 8 but you know, as of now they'd 909 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,900 be in a tie for 12 and 8 with Northwestern who they've lost 910 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,600 twice to Maryland who they lost once to and won't get to play 911 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,100 again, Iowa. Who the best they can do is 912 00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,500 finish 500 against on the season and Rutgers who they finished 913 00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:00,800 500 against on the season. So it's why that Northwestern 914 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,600 lost pissed me off so much earlier this week, because there 915 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,200 was so many important tiebreakers wrapped up in that 916 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,900 game that Indiana lost out on and look it. 917 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:10,600 Happens, what are you going to do? 918 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:17,000 But the nice thing is, I will say, I would almost in the MMA. 919 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,100 Let's say you finished as the five seed in the Big 12 during 920 00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,900 the Big Ten Tournament. You were going to play the 1213 921 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,400 winner, which at this point would be the winner of Nebraska, 922 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,700 Ohio State, you can, you can win that game. 923 00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:33,300 Then you get to play whoever the for is and that's an opportunity 924 00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:39,400 to potentially play Northwestern or Rutgers or you know or And on 925 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,400 a neutral floor, Iowa on a neutral. 926 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,100 Fluoride I take my chances in that game and if you lose that 927 00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,900 game, it literally does nothing. They get it for you. 928 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,800 You know, if you win you maybe you move up a seed line but I 929 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,900 think what we saw last year is that the committee isn't that 930 00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:57,600 interested in making a lot of fractional changes because of 931 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,000 what happens in the tournaments unless they have to like have a 932 00:47:01,008 --> 00:47:04,300 team like if Ohio State goes out and wins the Big Ten Tournament, 933 00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:06,900 they have to put Ohio State in the field and that that messes 934 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:08,900 everything up beyond that though. 935 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,800 Though, I don't know that it matters as much you know, as 936 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,700 long as you don't lose to a team that you absolutely shouldn't 937 00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:15,000 lose to. I don't think the tournament 938 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,800 going to matter that much in terms of seating. 939 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,800 I agree one, by the way, we're just not going to do well in the 940 00:47:19,808 --> 00:47:21,100 tournament because we don't that's right. 941 00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:25,500 Let's just go ahead and assume we'll go one and one but in a in 942 00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:29,200 a weird way and I'm not trying to get too far ahead of myself 943 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:35,600 but I now will you know, this is You know, it's like to me the 944 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,500 next two games on the road it's like whatever. 945 00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:40,500 It's all gravy you almost just you gotta win your two home 946 00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:42,100 games. You got to be told or Iowa and 947 00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:44,400 Michigan on the road and then I'm with you to meet like the 948 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,800 Big Ten tournaments almost. I'd rather just go one and one 949 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,900 and not ride. The extra two games of 40 950 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:53,100 minutes for Trace Jackson Davis and jam with the Cioppino 951 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,800 because if you, if you go to the finals, the Big Ten tournament 952 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,100 and you play that game like winning getting their doesn't 953 00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,900 really matter winning. It would be interesting and fun 954 00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,400 but like you're going to have to you're not doing with a 40 955 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,300 minutes at a trace Jackson, Davis in jail, hit Ruffino for 956 00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:10,400 three straight games. And I almost would rather just 957 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,600 not use those miles and give them time to rest, for they're 958 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,300 ready to go as a protected three or four seed, but it all comes 959 00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:19,900 down to winning the home games against Iowa. 960 00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:23,300 Michigan, you do that. Then I'm I almost think you can 961 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,000 go into the Big Ten tournament in a weird way be like hey 962 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,900 Miller just shoot a bunch of Threes that gets us there. 963 00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:32,100 Great if not we're just going to sit back and rest and go be a 964 00:48:32,107 --> 00:48:35,100 protected seed and The games that matter because I will say, 965 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:38,600 this is a team that well, I would love to win the Big Ten 966 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,500 Tournament, you know, at some point in our life time, like I 967 00:48:41,508 --> 00:48:43,600 don't know, Rose Bowl or that with something's going to happen 968 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,600 first. But it's like, this is not the 969 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,300 year because to do that, there is no other way but writing 970 00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:54,100 those two guys and writing them hard and as we've seen they are 971 00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:57,400 looking tired, they need some rest, I don't think the best way 972 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,100 to get ready for the NCAA tournament, where we really want 973 00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:03,100 success is to play them, you know, three. 974 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,800 Or four straight games at 40 minutes Eclipse. 975 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,200 So in a weird way, I think like this, the rest of between now 976 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,200 and selection Sunday, I look at it very much, like you gotta 977 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,200 just beat Iowa and Michigan at home and then everything else is 978 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,200 gravy. Yeah. 979 00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,200 I mean, and the Big Ten Tournament almost like kind of 980 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,700 don't want to do well there. Oh, I'd love to do well in the 981 00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,500 Big Ten Tournament. Now gimme, gimme, gimme doing 982 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:27,300 well in the mileage on those guys. 983 00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:32,100 Like, even I look at the end of it all, I think this team needs 984 00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:35,000 success. I think you've seen success 985 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,500 breeds success with the, you know, to some degree. 986 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:39,800 I don't think in the Ana winds, that probably not get into 987 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,000 tournament, but even if they had, I don't think they would 988 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,900 have won the Wyoming Game. If they hadn't won the Illinois 989 00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:47,200 game and had that experience of doing something. 990 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,200 Now, if they lose in the Big Ten Tournament, I don't think that 991 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,600 matters because this team's got bigger fish to fry. 992 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,500 But I also think that this team is going to have some things to 993 00:49:56,500 --> 00:50:00,800 prove in the Big Ten tournament and I don't think that having 994 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,900 success in the Big Ten Tournament is a bad thing. 995 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000 You know, we've kind of conditioned ourselves to not act 996 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,100 like it matters, but it would be great to add. 997 00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:12,400 Look because I do think that if Indiana were to come out, if 998 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,600 they got the double by and then they won their first game. 999 00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:20,300 That'd be against a pretty good team. 1000 00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:22,500 That's that's the kind of win. That could demonstrate. 1001 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:25,300 Hey, guess what Indiana, finished the season strong, they 1002 00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:28,800 picked up another quad one, win on a neutral Court, they deserve 1003 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,800 a three seed, maybe you get out of having to, you know, be 1004 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,300 matched up against an Alabama or Houston in the sweet 16. 1005 00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:38,100 Let alone having to be matched up against a five seed in the 1006 00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:42,100 second round. But I also as we talked about a 1007 00:50:42,107 --> 00:50:44,600 little bit on the last podcast, I don't think it matters that 1008 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,800 much in terms of things because You know you just can't predict 1009 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,400 what the matchups are going to be. 1010 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:55,300 And ultimately though I my big thing with this Indiana team is 1011 00:50:55,700 --> 00:51:00,400 Success breeds success, this winning streak has bred them, a 1012 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,100 level of mental fortitude, where they were able to go in and win 1013 00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,400 games that they wouldn't have won before. 1014 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,000 And a lot of that is because they've already won some games 1015 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,700 and that's giving them confidence in their own 1016 00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,400 abilities to play against these teams. 1017 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000 And so that's where I think it's a little bit of a different 1018 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,900 vintage and we have to not look at it like we would 1019 00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:18,400 traditionally look at these sorts of situations. 1020 00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,100 Situations. I will also say from that 1021 00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,800 reveal. Today being in the South Region 1022 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,300 looking at a sweet 16 in Louisville. 1023 00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:28,100 My kite, it done. Like I will take that right now. 1024 00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:33,100 Looks like done and done. Let's go and it'd be it'd be 1025 00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,000 nice like that. That's, it's like it's cool 1026 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,100 having a 25% chance of basically a home game for a sweet 16 out 1027 00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:42,000 there. Yeah, well, it's, it's pretty 1028 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,500 wild. The I mean that if you look at 1029 00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:47,200 the the draw today, I mean that's probably the thing that I 1030 00:51:47,207 --> 00:51:52,200 found the most fascinating. Was that, you know, Indiana was 1031 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,600 in the what were they? The the bracket they got put 1032 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,700 into was the South Region. I mean the idea that Indiana is 1033 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:03,000 a four seed if they could find their way through the first two 1034 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,900 games would be able to play in Louisville. 1035 00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,300 You know, I mean that's a home, that's a not it's not a home 1036 00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:12,000 court advantage, technically, but you want to talk about being 1037 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,800 able to like it's shades of o2, you know, it's like, oh well 1038 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,300 we're playing Duke but it's right. 1039 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,800 Right down the road and you're gonna have a lot of IU fans 1040 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,500 there. Now, again, cart, well, before 1041 00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:28,100 the horse lot to happen between now and then but I'm you think 1042 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,900 does the committee? Will they look at that and try 1043 00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:34,600 and negotiate Indiana out of like as they or they they put 1044 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,600 them in. They were the ones that put them 1045 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,600 in to sell it today. How much do they actually look 1046 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,100 at like, the geographic stuff when there is this, just kind of 1047 00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:45,700 like, well, here's how it works and I'm gonna here's the s-curve 1048 00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:48,300 like because that will come into play when they really see what 1049 00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:53,000 Okay, so here's the thing, the we're going to do a larger 1050 00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:57,400 podcast on the next bracket racket where I walk everybody 1051 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,500 through some questions. So if you're listening to this 1052 00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:02,900 and you have Bracketology questions, tweet us or DM us and 1053 00:53:02,908 --> 00:53:06,100 I'll be happy to answer. I got this question in one of 1054 00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:08,000 the chats that I'm on and I'll answer it. 1055 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,800 Now, the way that it works is this, the committee does the S 1056 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,200 curve, and the top four seed, lines, one, through four in each 1057 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,900 region. Those are called Protected 1058 00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:22,000 seeds. And the idea is that keeping 1059 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,300 other bracketing rules in mind you place teams in spots that 1060 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:28,400 are going to be the most advantageous to them. 1061 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,800 And you know, it doesn't really factor in like well gosh we're 1062 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,100 not going to put this for seed here because it might 1063 00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:39,300 disadvantage this one seed as long as it's not like egregious 1064 00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:41,200 like they wouldn't put Indianapolis in the Indianapolis 1065 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,700 region as a four seed, if there was a team from further away 1066 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:46,500 that was a one. But Louisville. 1067 00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:49,900 I mean that's not even Technically Indiana's region, 1068 00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:52,400 that's the South. There's this weird thing where 1069 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,400 it's like the Ohio River, even though it's just a River cuts 1070 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,700 off, a lot of the like the Big Ten teams from the SEC teams and 1071 00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:04,300 so if you look at what they did, they had Alabama in the south is 1072 00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:07,100 the one and then Houston was their number two overall. 1073 00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,300 So they took Houston and they put them in the midwest. 1074 00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:12,400 Purdue was their number three. They put them in the East 1075 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,000 because even though Purdue would have been far better served 1076 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,100 being in the Louisville Regional or the Kansas City. 1077 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,000 You know, those were already, they were already taken and then 1078 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000 that left Kansas, who was the fourth number one seed out in 1079 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,300 the west region and then from there they start placing like we 1080 00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:30,500 know what their next teams are. This is where it gets kind of 1081 00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:34,700 interesting because if you look at the list that was that was 1082 00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,300 put out. Let me let me call it up again 1083 00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:40,200 real quick because I think it's informative to think about how 1084 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,000 all these things factored in together. 1085 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,300 The total ranking 1 through 16 that they put out there today. 1086 00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:53,700 Was the fifth overall was Texas? Well, you know, most people 1087 00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:57,300 think, oh, the, the best to seeds going to play the worst 1088 00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:58,600 one. See, well that can't happen 1089 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,700 because the worst one seed is Kansas and well, they're not 1090 00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:06,200 going to put Kansas and Texas up against each other. 1091 00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:10,000 So instead what they do is they put Texas in the next best 1092 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,400 region for them which is the Midwest and and that's normally 1093 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,800 how it works. It's not just for versus five. 1094 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,900 It's okay. If for the to Seeds. 1095 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:20,600 Where does the next best to seed go? 1096 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:25,600 And then they had Arizona out west that made sense. 1097 00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:29,700 They had Baylor in the South because that was best for them 1098 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:33,000 and then UCLA despite very much not being in the Eastern time, 1099 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,600 zone is placed in the East because that was the last 1100 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,700 available spot. So for Indiana, if they were the 1101 00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:44,000 top four seed, they would get within bracketing, reason, the 1102 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,900 best geographical spot. Like, if Perdue was the number 1103 00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,700 one overall seed they would be placed The South because that's 1104 00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:52,700 the closest one Indiana wouldn't be placed in the South there. 1105 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,200 So that's, that's where it's all kind of a shifting thing when 1106 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,000 Purdue be the Midwest. Then there were the overall 1107 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,300 number 10 because it's about how close the geographical location 1108 00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:04,600 of the site is, and Louisville's a lot closer to West Lafayette 1109 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,400 than Kansas city is in Kansas City's where the midwest regions 1110 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,200 located got it. So it's like and I get it's 1111 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,000 confusing. Like it's one of those where you 1112 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,800 just assume. Oh Big Ten Midwest. 1113 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,200 And he know let's like, think about it. 1114 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,300 What if Maryland won? The Big Ten? 1115 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,600 But it really be more advantageous for them to travel 1116 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,400 all the way to Kansas City. No, in fact, Maryland wouldn't 1117 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,500 even be placed in Louisville. If they were the 10 number one 1118 00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:30,900 seed, out of the Big Ten, they'd be in New York City because that 1119 00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:32,100 would be the closest site to them. 1120 00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,900 So, that's really that geographical proximity thing is 1121 00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:36,700 the thing that makes the most of the difference. 1122 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,500 Well, I think, but again, going back to that. 1123 00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:39,600 That's why I think it's interesting. 1124 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200 If Indiana could get that for in the South, like, it really, 1125 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,600 you're hurting Alabama, and helping Indiana. 1126 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,000 Because it's like, that's but I think it also comes out. 1127 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,800 I think, on that, for line, Comes a point to where it's just 1128 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,400 like you can't protect everybody. 1129 00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:53,700 Well, go point, right? I mean that's the thing. 1130 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,400 It's like you're not really hurting Alabama because if you 1131 00:56:56,408 --> 00:56:59,200 didn't put Alabama in the Louisville Regional where you 1132 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,600 going to put them, is it more advantageous for them to travel 1133 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,900 to Kansas City? You know? 1134 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:06,700 And, and so, you put them in the closest region, but then it's 1135 00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:10,200 not like, you can say, well, Indiana's closer to Louisville 1136 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,500 than Alabama is. So therefore, we can't put 1137 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,200 Indiana and Louisville. That's not the way that it 1138 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,300 works. And so, in less, it's a 1139 00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:20,400 situation where it's literally Really like we play games there, 1140 00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:23,500 it's in our backyard. You're not going to see that 1141 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:25,900 kind of a situation transpire where they would move Indiana 1142 00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:29,000 out of the region simply because it might be slightly descended 1143 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,400 hajus to the number one seed. Yeah no I like it. 1144 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,700 I was I saw that and I'm like, and I'm like, let's go to 1145 00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:36,200 Louisville, we'll see what happens. 1146 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,000 A lot of a lot of basketball left to play but Indiana took a 1147 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,200 huge step today, knocking off, Illinois and putting themselves 1148 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,400 in a position to maintain that spot and maybe even move up a 1149 00:57:45,408 --> 00:57:48,200 little bit and it's just it's so cool to take a breath and be 1150 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,900 like, wow, We're talking about, you know, our floor being a 5 or 1151 00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:54,700 a 6 CD. We're here on February 18th. 1152 00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:59,000 Not talking about, you know, are minimal path to finding our way 1153 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,200 amount tournament and you know, it's like we're not we're in now 1154 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,500 we're just talking about seeds, that's great. 1155 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,000 And we're in the spot where the next two games. 1156 00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:10,700 You know, if this is a great spot that we haven't been in 1157 00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,600 since like 2016 where and I'm not even sure we could say we 1158 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,100 were there. At that point I could go back 1159 00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:18,400 and look exactly but we're in a spot where the next two games? 1160 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,900 All we can do is help our cause and we really can't hurt our 1161 00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:23,600 cause I mean losses aren't great. 1162 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,000 But as you've, as you've taught me with Bracketology like a loss 1163 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,500 of Michigan State, a loss of Purdue even probably like a 10 1164 00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:34,000 or 12 point loss at Purdue. None of those things will really 1165 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,700 hurt our resume where it's at. So like really the next week all 1166 00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:41,300 we can do is benefit ourselves. There's really nothing we can do 1167 00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:43,800 to hurt ourselves. Just keep in mind last year at 1168 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,500 this time, Indiana was mired in the middle of a five-game, 1169 00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:49,500 losing streak. They Lost their fourth, in a 1170 00:58:49,508 --> 00:58:53,700 row, at home to Wisconsin. They had fallen to 16 and 9 and 1171 00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:57,300 7 and 8 on the season, they would go 7 and 9 with that. 1172 00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:02,900 Next loss now, they went to and to, in those last four games and 1173 00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:05,100 they end up winning two games in the Big Ten tournament in the 1174 00:59:05,107 --> 00:59:09,900 rest, we know was history. But the, the changeover in what 1175 00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:11,900 Indiana has been able to accomplish and how they've been 1176 00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:14,300 playing between last year. And this year, at the same time, 1177 00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:17,300 period is really incredible and even though the records aren't 1178 00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:21,000 insanely different, Aunt from each other, the vibe around the 1179 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,100 team and what they've overall accomplished. 1180 00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:27,000 I mean last year at this point of the Season Indiana's best 1181 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,500 wins overall were a road win at Maryland. 1182 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:36,400 Who was not good last year, a neutral Court win vs Notre Dame, 1183 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,400 a home win versus Purdue in a home. 1184 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,200 Win versus st. John's, that's it. 1185 00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:43,600 That was and and you know, essentially they needed those 1186 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,100 two neutral Court wins in the Big Ten Tournament to even get 1187 00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:48,400 themselves into the tournament. This year's teams on it. 1188 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,400 Entirely different plane of existence. 1189 00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:54,900 And even though, I think some students some people out there 1190 00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:57,000 watching Indiana feel like they're just living last year 1191 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,800 all over. Again. 1192 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,900 It's a very, very different. So, just keep that in mind. 1193 01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:03,900 Try to enjoy it as much as you can, and we'll see what happens 1194 01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:06,200 with Indiana coming up on Tuesday, as they take on this 1195 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,600 Michigan State team that I don't know what to expect right now. 1196 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,700 Out of, I'm not expecting Indiana to win the game, at the 1197 01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:16,100 tough place to play. But, you know, we'll see what 1198 01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:17,800 happens. And, and certainly, I think the 1199 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,500 way this Indiana Team has played overall so far in the Big Ten 1200 01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:22,900 season. You got to give him some what 1201 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,600 the benefit of the doubt. So anyway, if lat we're sorry I 1202 01:00:26,607 --> 01:00:28,100 know you're about to wrap up last thing. 1203 01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:30,000 Just yes or no in. Let's go. 1204 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,700 Completely optimistic. Indiana wins out Indiana. 1205 01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,400 But guess the Big Ten Championship do we is 3rr? 1206 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,500 Absolute ceiling. Is there any way this team could 1207 01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:44,000 get to a two line? If they went out and make a run 1208 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,900 in the Big Ten Tournament? That's an interesting question. 1209 01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:50,300 I mean right now Indiana is is 18 and 8 and 10 and 6 if they 1210 01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:55,100 went out they'd be 23 and 8 and 14 and 6 going into the Big Ten 1211 01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:58,300 Tournament, they would they would have a double by almost 1212 01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:01,400 certainly in that environment. And if they won three games they 1213 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,000 would at least have to beat probably at least one of Purdue 1214 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:11,900 Northwestern or Maryland and you know, now you're talking about 1215 01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:15,900 that's twenty six and eight. That's probably a two seed 1216 01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:19,000 caliber because you'd have three more neutral You're twins. 1217 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,600 You have a win at Purdue, you'd be only the second team to do 1218 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,100 that. You'd have a win at Michigan 1219 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:26,000 State. And I think on the season, the 1220 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,400 only teams that have beaten Michigan State at home, our 1221 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,000 Purdue by one and Northwestern by 7. 1222 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:35,600 So yeah, I think that at that point you'd be a to, I don't see 1223 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,000 that scenario playing how beautiful I, that's just what 1224 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,100 they do but the it is possible. Yes, you could potentially get 1225 01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:43,300 to a two-seat if all of that broke your way. 1226 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,100 Yeah, so anyway, all right, I gotta run Scott. 1227 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,400 Yep. Glad we were able to do this. 1228 01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:50,000 It was fun. Thanks to all you folks for 1229 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,100 listening in always fun to talk basketball with Indiana's. 1230 01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:55,700 Actually, winning be sure to tune into the women's basketball 1231 01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:57,600 show with Amanda Foster's later on this week. 1232 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,000 And he had a big game tomorrow. As they host the Purdue 1233 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,400 Boilermakers can clinched a share of the Big Ten title in 1234 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,700 that one. Also be sure to check out the 1235 01:02:03,707 --> 01:02:06,300 bracket bracket will be back with more podcasts on the 1236 01:02:06,308 --> 01:02:08,500 tournament. Selection process later on this 1237 01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,800 week for Scott. I'm Galen, thanks to all you 1238 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,700 folks, thanks to our friends at the back home network and catch 1239 01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:16,500 you on the flip side. Bring back the Bison. 1240 01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:17,200 So everybody