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It's a great to have you on 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,200 although under the circumstances, maybe not. 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,900 But I thought you'd be the perfect person cuz I want to 36 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:01,100 start kind of micro because you, you do your film breakdowns, you 37 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:02,900 look at it from like, a basketball perspective. 38 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:07,500 And I, the first question is, what are you seeing on the 39 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:09,500 court? Have you seen differences? 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,900 Because this is just such a different team from, like 41 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:15,400 December 1st on. Are you seeing differences on 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,600 the way? They're playing like on the 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,000 court offensive and defensively? Because the in A result is just 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,500 like, it's been, it's been really rough last couple weeks, 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,900 obviously. Yeah, it's been so weird. 46 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:31,800 You know, to start things off. I don't discount the fact that 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,500 race Thompson and David Johnson are, you know, integral parts of 48 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:37,400 this Indiana to him. You know. 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,300 I don't discount that I think that's fairly significant to 50 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:42,800 point out before I say anything else. 51 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:46,300 However but you know, whenever you have that button there, you 52 00:02:46,308 --> 00:02:47,500 know, something bad's about to happen. 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,300 It's it's a You know, it's been such a stark contrast from the, 54 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:56,200 you know, I thought I you would be able to be in every game this 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,600 year because they're going to have the defense to keep them in 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,600 it and their offense would probably struggle a little bit. 57 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:04,800 It's, it's been nothing of the sort, you know, now Indiana's 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,400 down to I think the number 67 in defensive efficiency on Ken 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Palm, you know, which is a stark contrast from where this team 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,800 was last year's, you know? So when I look at it and I look 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,700 at, you know, the North Carolina game, I was like, man like how 62 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:21,900 is anybody? In scoring this, this Indiana 63 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:26,600 team, you know, they Indiana was the aggressor they were playing 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,100 extremely hard against North Carolina. 65 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:34,600 And then, you know, turns out North Carolina's somewhat 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,900 mediocre of a basketball team and has struggled offensively 67 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,700 themselves and gets themselves in ISO situations, which which 68 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:44,500 I, you guarded pretty well and they don't shoot the rock super 69 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:46,600 well. So I, you didn't struggle as 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,800 much there, but now when I watch out you, it's just I mean, 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,500 elementary things that are really troubling, you know, when 72 00:03:55,500 --> 00:04:00,400 you look at positioning on the defensive end, you know, I've 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,400 tweeted this a put this in our assembly called Community a 74 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,300 couple times. The scary part about Indiana on 75 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:09,400 defense is it's not like there's one glaring issue. 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Like they can't guard ball screens and so they got to fix 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 how they guard ball screens now, they can't guard ball screens 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,800 but they also have poor positioning. 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,100 They also Can't keep the ball in. 80 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:22,400 Front of them, defensively on the ball. 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,000 They're step late when they're guarding Cutters off the ball. 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,100 Like there is a plethora of items on the defensive end where 83 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:34,500 they are struggling. And that's the scary part is 84 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,400 it's like it's not one glaring issue. 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,900 It's it's five six, seven things that are defensive fundamentals. 86 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:43,800 Where several guys are struggling. 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Yeah, it's so I got to give total credit to Galen for 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,500 fighting this out. Out, and he's been mentioning 89 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:53,300 the stuff on podcast. If you go to Bart torvik site, 90 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,200 you can, you can start to really dissect the data by timeline. 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,800 But when you look at Indiana from December first on. 92 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,000 So after that, North Carolina game, you know, on tour, Vic's 93 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,100 rating, their 69th in the country at offensive efficiency 94 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:09,800 there 154th in defensive efficiency. 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 So for those who were talking about, you know, and then 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,900 honestly across the board, everything else there in the 100 97 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:19,700 or 200 in the country, when you look at, you know, Field goal, 98 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:21,600 percentage turnover percentage rebound percentage. 99 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,300 I'm not going to go through it all, but it's it's the profile 100 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:26,300 of a team that isn't even an IT worthy. 101 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:29,700 And so for those who would say, you know, take a breath, you 102 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:32,500 know, it's only a couple games, it's like this is this is more 103 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,600 than a couple games. This is really since December 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:41,500 3rd, you've had basically a month and you know 369 games 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,400 which is of large sample size of your season where it just has 106 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,900 not been right? And yeah, I'm with you, man. 107 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:54,000 In the stuff that you're seeing, you know, like I'm curious the 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,900 Iowa game, you know, I'm watching that and Gail my had a 109 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:02,200 discussion about this but like At first, like man Geronimo 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,300 can't keep up with Marie. It's like you feel in Psych? 111 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:06,500 All right, like you to do something but then it's like you 112 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:09,500 know, because we switch on all the ball screens, they would put 113 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:11,400 Geronimo on somebody else. And then Iowa would just 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,600 immediately do a high pick and roll and get Geronimo back on 115 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,900 Murray and then torture him. And there comes a point where 116 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:18,800 I'm like, okay, this is not true like Geronimo can't guard him 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,600 like I Guarded. You can't like okay at some 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,400 point you need to make a change and just having Geronimo get 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,000 torched for five straight possessions. 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,700 Like that's not good for the team. 121 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:29,400 It's also not good for geronimo's. 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,700 You know I'm sure it's mental health or how he o is is his 123 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:36,800 confidence on the court and this is where it comes back to me. 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,300 It's like you've got to do something like I was talking to 125 00:06:39,308 --> 00:06:41,800 Gaelic, you just go to a zone or go to something. 126 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,700 It's like they, this is where I really worry about the in-game. 127 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:49,000 Again, I'm not in a position to say, I know more than any of 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,100 these Coaches, but I look at this and it's like, I know, I 129 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:55,100 don't know more but then I see that and it's like at some point 130 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:57,600 you've got to show me that, you know, more like I'm I'm cursed 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,200 a, you saw that and be like your thoughts on something like that. 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,700 Yeah. I mean I think I was in some 133 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:07,100 texting threads and my in the first 10 minutes of the second 134 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:08,300 half of that. Iowa game. 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,000 I think Geronimo had given up 16 points at some point. 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,200 You just take him off the floor, like, you know. 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Yeah, right. This isn't working, like he's 138 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,900 having a rough game and then, you know, said, That was 139 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:23,100 troubling to me and I'll get back to Iowa in a second but 140 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:27,200 like it was like okay, Jordan Geronimo doesn't look like 141 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:29,800 somebody. That's going to contribute, you 142 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 know, really struggled, gave up 16 points. 143 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:35,700 Next game isn't starting lineup, you know, so that one was a 144 00:07:35,707 --> 00:07:39,600 little bit troubling to me. I you actually had some success 145 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,000 going small but to go back to the Iowa game. 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,700 Yeah. It's You know, I honestly the 147 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:47,600 best person to guard. Chris Murray was probably Trace 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,300 Jackson Davis. He's actually he's done a pretty 149 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,500 good job, keeping guys on the perimeter in front of him, the 150 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:57,300 last few games. Yeah, it's I'm with you, you 151 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:01,700 know, I'll never act like I know more than the coaching staff and 152 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:05,100 I'm not at practices and I don't see what their game plans are 153 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:07,400 and stuff. But you know, from a bird's-eye 154 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,700 view, it's like what's going on here, you know, there's there's 155 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:14,800 minimal adjustments made, I mean, Be in there brother. 156 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,700 Going into the Penn State game, New Penn State shoots a crap. 157 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:21,300 Ton of Threes. They have guys who they have a 158 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:23,300 guy on their team that has attempted for two pointers, the 159 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:26,700 entire season. That was left with 15, 20 feet 160 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:31,100 of space, to shoot a three. It's like, okay, I understand 161 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:34,200 that, you know, you have a defensive philosophy and you're 162 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,799 standing by that which is it's basically the pack line on 163 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,900 steroids. I mean, that's what's in. 164 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:41,299 It mention like, I don't know what pack line is. 165 00:08:41,299 --> 00:08:43,900 I don't, by the way, this is a pacline free. 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,900 Let's not mention that again. We don't talk about the pack 167 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:47,800 line here but that's what we play. 168 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 That's what's crazy is, you know, yeah, it's just a 169 00:08:51,808 --> 00:08:53,500 different terminology that he uses it. 170 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:57,800 But guys, sitting to get wave too far in the gaps there. 171 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Flat-footed nobody's on the balls of their feet. 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,600 That's that's one thing to me. Like it's an easy change. 173 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,700 Like, when you're in help side positioning and you've just got 174 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,400 a guy standing flat-footed, like you're not going to be able to 175 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,000 maneuver yourself to the Hedge and recover or stabbing recover 176 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,800 and that's where Indiana struggle. 177 00:09:13,900 --> 00:09:15,100 Really bad. I mean, I look at a guy like 178 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:17,900 tomorrow Bates, just getting torched. 179 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:19,600 Off the ball. You know, when you just guarding 180 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,300 a standstill Wing like not even coming off of screens or 181 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,700 anything, it's just he's guarding a wing and he's 182 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:28,000 standing in help side and then he's just flat-footed. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,100 And by the time, the dribble penetration happens in the 184 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:33,200 kick-out happens, he's closing out. 15 feet in the guys wide 185 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,200 open, like little things like that. 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,700 That like I said, you know, I'm I'm not going to sit here and 187 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:40,800 act, like I know everything that's going on in the program 188 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,200 are no more than the coaching staff. 189 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,800 But at some point, it's like, all right. 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800 As you know, they made 18 threes here off of very similar 191 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,200 actions. Like what are we going to do to 192 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,200 counter that and just didn't see a lot of that. 193 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,500 It's troubling because we were sold that this was going to be a 194 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:58,300 defensive team. And you know and they all 195 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:00,600 offseason Woodson was talking about how like defense is going 196 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,700 to be the identity and you saw it. 197 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:06,200 You know this is where the early stuff and I'm always hesitant to 198 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,100 get too excited about those early games because you know a 199 00:10:10,108 --> 00:10:12,900 lot of them is your beating up on you know but soon cookman and 200 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:15,800 you know Little Rock Rock and you're gonna play those games, 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:21,100 but is that really an indication of good defense or bad 202 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:24,600 opponents? Now the North Carolina game, you 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,200 played great, you played with effort, again, it feels like 204 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,200 something broke after that. Like I don't know what but are 205 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,900 you, you know, from the way that you see it? 206 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:36,000 You you like me? You watch a lot of them be a as 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,400 well. Would you say that Woodson is 208 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,800 still cold? Does the team play as if they're 209 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,800 running MBA, MBA sets versus It sets in the way you see how 210 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,900 absolutely it's, you know, isolate a guy somewhere 211 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:53,600 typically tjd on the Block, maneuver a couple pieces off the 212 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,600 ball, whether that be a guy cutting or whatever and then let 213 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,900 him go to work and then try to find an open shooter and then 214 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:00,900 try to penetrate and kick off of that. 215 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:06,000 It's very much in be a heavy. I mean, there's no creativity to 216 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,300 Indiana's offense, you know, you watch even teams like Penn State 217 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,800 or you know, I watch Alabama and Arkansas. 218 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:17,300 Saw and things like that. Like, there's just not a lot of 219 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,700 creativity to what Indiana does offensively. 220 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:23,100 It's, you know, they're, they're number one set that they run. 221 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,800 They don't run a lot of sets in general, but the number one said 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,800 that they run is they will run a guy that's on the Baseline a 223 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,800 guard. And he'll go and rub, Trace 224 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,600 Jackson, Davis has man, and then they'll throw it to trace on the 225 00:11:35,608 --> 00:11:38,000 Block. I mean, that's their set like 226 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,300 that, that third graders can run. 227 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,200 And I'm not saying that everything has to be complex 228 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,100 like sometimes. Suppose a simple game and if you 229 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:46,500 can score off that action, great. 230 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:48,700 But I mean they've been running that action, two years and are 231 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:51,500 two years in a row. Now pretty much every ATO is 232 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:58,000 that set, you know, that's that's easy to guard, no matter 233 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,400 what you do, no matter who you are, who your personnel is. 234 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,100 And so, yeah, it's just, there's not a lot of creativity 235 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:11,400 offensive ly definitely, you know, when you look at how the 236 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,700 college basketball game is, is being played, Aid and it's 237 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:18,900 spacing it's opening up double and triple gaps which are 238 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:23,500 essentially creating space you know maneuvering guys through. 239 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:27,900 So that other guys have space to create opening up the lane. 240 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:30,700 You know, every time I you as a driving and there's a big just 241 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:34,900 planted there on both blocks so there's no driving Lanes, it's 242 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:37,400 easy to help off of a big and then recover. 243 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,500 So it's just And, you know, and that's the offensive side, which 244 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:45,200 be quite honest hasn't even been the issue for the last three 245 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,900 games. I mean, it's not been great but 246 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:50,900 you know, it's defensive side that that's killing them, you 247 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:54,000 know, and it but offensive lead as well, you know, just throwing 248 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,200 the ball all over the court, you know, you just trying to 249 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,300 force-feed it, you're really easy to scout so when you're 250 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,900 easy to scout, you're going to turn the ball over because teams 251 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:05,300 know exactly where you're trying to go with the ball, pretty much 252 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:08,200 every single possession, you know, everybody's just like, you 253 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,200 know, it's unfortunate. Over some Indian and stuff like 254 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,000 that. Well yes and no because teams 255 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,200 are teams are taking away certain actions. 256 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,100 Then they're going somewhere, they're not comfortable going in 257 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:20,700 that offensive set or that offensive action and that's why 258 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,400 it kind of looks unforced. But, you know, in Trace Jackson. 259 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Davis is used to catching it at the free-throw, line with a guy 260 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,300 behind them against Bethune-Cookman, but then 261 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:31,700 Northwestern pushes him to feet out in front of the three-point 262 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:33,500 line. So then try Galway sales the 263 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,100 ball over his head, he's not used to throwing it to them, 264 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:38,300 they're like, it looks unforced, but Northwestern forces that 265 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:40,500 because they Adieu and they know exactly what you're trying to do 266 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:44,600 in that action. So it's it's troubling, it's 267 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,300 frustrating, you know, I tweeted last night during the game 268 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:49,300 against Penn State. Like I'm just going to get off 269 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:52,800 Twitter or I'm going to get toxic because, yeah, that's 270 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,800 where I felt, I saw that and it's there's Parts where, you 271 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,500 know, at times under Archie, it felt like, you know, the players 272 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,400 like finna see was always the example. 273 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,400 This like, it felt like he was having his kind of basketball 274 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,300 knowledge, coached out of him. Like he's look like a guy who Is 275 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,400 questioning everything he did on the court, and there was a 276 00:14:11,408 --> 00:14:13,400 moment last night. And again, we're diving into the 277 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,500 little details like 10 minutes to go in the second second 278 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:19,300 quarter. Second half, Trace back to Davis 279 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:21,100 gets the ball. He got a fumbles it, he's like 280 00:14:21,108 --> 00:14:23,800 in the middle of the lane, but because he's taken time to 281 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,900 gather the ball, like he gets triple-teamed as a Penn State 282 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:29,000 guy like standing behind him, who's not. 283 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,600 So he's like theoretically quadruple teamed with his triple 284 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,800 team has a guy behind him who's kind of guarding that the 285 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,300 Baseline of the lane and all the rest of the end of guys are all 286 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:40,100 on one side. Like nobody cuts. 287 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:43,100 And at the same time Miller cop and Tamar Bates cut to like the 288 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:48,300 same spot toward Jackson Davis. He then passes it to Tamar Bates 289 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,300 who's like basically. Like it's like a handoff, like 290 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:53,200 here's the ball for like two feet and then Bates takes a bad 291 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,500 shot because he gets it in that position. 292 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:58,400 I'm like, how how do you get a guy triple-teamed and not have 293 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,000 somebody cut to an open spot? Not toward the guy with the ball 294 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,900 and it it again. It feels like we're running a 295 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:07,700 lot of sets and then when we have things break apart it's 296 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:09,000 like guys feel like they don't know. 297 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:10,800 Do it again, they know what to do. 298 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:13,300 This is him tomorrow base. The five-star recruit Jackson 299 00:15:13,300 --> 00:15:16,300 Davis is a great player, you'll Miller cop knows where to go. 300 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:18,900 It's like but it feels like they've almost there, they're 301 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:21,600 like zombie walking out there. They don't know what to do. 302 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,400 It's bizarre. And and for those who tell us 303 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,500 to, you know, calm down saying this is the red flags. 304 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,500 We saw in the Archie era. Here's the other question, you 305 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:32,800 something you mentioned about you having bigs posted there and 306 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,200 I've been kind of kicking this idea around And I preface this 307 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,000 Jack Tracy Jackson. Davis is phenomenal. 308 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,300 He's awesome. But he is limited his skill set 309 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:46,600 and to me, one of the most disappointing things of his 310 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,300 career. Both either him or his coaching 311 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:53,000 staff is, you know I don't know if it's not him or coaching or 312 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,100 both or what it is but it's like he's he's fantastic at what he 313 00:15:57,100 --> 00:16:00,500 does but he has not gotten the he started to bring the ball up 314 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,800 a little bit. In transition I would love to 315 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,400 see him like get the ball at the you know top of the key. 316 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:06,900 Key. I've been saying he's shooting 317 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:08,800 threes for a while but like wouldn't it be great if he got 318 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,300 the ball outside? The three-point line was able to 319 00:16:10,308 --> 00:16:13,700 like Drive in you know dribble break somebody down and just be 320 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:16,500 able to drive her do something, and not have to get the ball in 321 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:20,500 one spot because I've been saying it feels like he changes 322 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:23,400 the geometry of the court in a very negative way. 323 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,000 You look at a guy like Zach ET at Purdue similar issues, a guy 324 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,700 who's not going to go out and break something down the 325 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:31,700 dribble, but, you know, he's shooting it a higher effective 326 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,200 field goal. Percentage of Trace Jackson 327 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,300 Davis, he gets the ball in. I hate to say he can get the 328 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:41,300 ball in more locations and do more with it and then the guys 329 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:43,800 on Purdue or doing a better job of moving around him, but it 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,100 does feel like, you know, the it's almost like this team is 331 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:50,200 limited because Jackson Davis is limited in where he can get the 332 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,300 ball and then it's like the the court changes and you look at a 333 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:56,500 guy like Miller, cop and people are pissed because he's standing 334 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,800 in the corner and like, I'm starting to be like, well, 335 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,600 where's he supposed to go like, there's nowhere else for these 336 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,400 people to go and like, put your feet o can't drive the lane like 337 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,800 it. No, I'm curious your thoughts on 338 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,099 that because I'm starting to be like, if we can't as a coaching 339 00:17:10,099 --> 00:17:13,900 staff, use him in different ways, it's like he's hurting the 340 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:16,599 geometry of the court, in a way that like, gives this team a 341 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,200 real ceiling. Yes, you know, something that 342 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,599 I've been talking about at least Texans buddy. 343 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:27,300 And stuff is not so much where Trace has to catch the ball 344 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:30,100 because I do think he can, he can do a few things off the 345 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:33,200 gerbil especially especially when he's got bigger guys 346 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,700 guarding him, you know, he's got a pretty First Step, but, you 347 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:40,400 know, you don't have like, you don't have to just plant them on 348 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,700 the Block, and then throw it to him and let him post. 349 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:46,800 Like you can said, you know, diagonal screen, and you can set 350 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,100 screen. The screen or action, you can 351 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:51,300 have Spain pick-and-rolls. Like, that's what my biggest 352 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:54,300 frustration has been when it comes to trace Jackson Davis is 353 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:56,500 how they utilize him, on the offensive side of the floor, 354 00:17:56,500 --> 00:18:00,900 like, you rarely go see him set, like pin down screens or 355 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:03,200 anything, and then slipped those, and then try to find him 356 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,200 with an easy bucket, like when he Scores nine times out of ten. 357 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,100 He has to work his butt off to score that that basketball like, 358 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:13,200 you know, he's he's grinding, he's posting somebody up or, you 359 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,100 know, he's being pushed or he's being double-teamed by a 360 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,800 cup-like. Get him easier looks by moving 361 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,600 him instead. Yeah, as you mentioned, you 362 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,900 know, it's like he'd so one-dimensional, you know, not 363 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,800 to mention that. So as to All Seasons, we've been 364 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,700 told about how much he's been working on his outside game and 365 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:35,300 then it's nowhere to be like it's not even utilize. 366 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,900 Even like tried, you know, they don't even like looked like 367 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,600 utilize him in a pick and pop situation or something like 368 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,100 that. Well, and that's the thing, and 369 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:47,100 I'm not again, I'm going to stay off at race here, like he's a 370 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:49,700 grit really good past week. He passes well on the post. 371 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,600 I don't know why even. Okay, like, he can't dribble and 372 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,400 drive. That's fine. 373 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,100 Like why not get him 20 feet from the basket? 374 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,100 Given the ball. They're like he can take. 375 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,100 He can take two dribbles and he could pass from there, like, he 376 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:02,500 could do kind of. But, you know, again, go to NBA 377 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:05,200 like, yo, yo, kit takes the ball up and he's, it's not like he's 378 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,800 a I am at you, he's not Kyrie with the ball but he's able to 379 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,300 take the ball from the three-point line and like kick 380 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:11,700 two dribbles and find an open guy. 381 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:14,600 And I'm not trying to make that comparison but it's like just 382 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:17,200 why not give when they're doing that little three-man weave up 383 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,400 top put him in it like open the cord up or just have him be a 384 00:19:21,408 --> 00:19:23,000 decoy. Bring him up to the top and just 385 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,100 have him stand there. Bring his man out and open it 386 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:27,400 up. Like it's stuff like that. 387 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,700 Where I continue to look at this coaching staff and I'm really 388 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:35,400 concerned and it's a lot of the red flags. 389 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:38,000 Saw during the Archie era. You know, I look at that Iowa 390 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,400 game and you know this was something I was always kind of 391 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,600 annoyed at Archie to it's like during that Iowa game, you know 392 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,100 this happened two years in a row. 393 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:49,300 I was getting smoked their players. 394 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:52,300 Look kind of zoned, out for a McCaffrey goes Bonkers. 395 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:54,700 Gets a technical and the game shifts. 396 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:57,700 And it's like if you're Woodson, like, all right, like Brands 397 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:00,300 doing stuff like Brands doing what Fran does, we can joke 398 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:04,300 about it, but it's like it's, it's working like do something 399 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:07,300 call some time out. You get a tech like like act 400 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:10,800 like you can't and I care but just act like you're engaged. 401 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 I know he is but it's like there comes a point where it's like 402 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,400 what's and man. Like you gotta you know, the one 403 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,700 of these games the Northwestern game like you just get a tea, 404 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:21,900 like, try that, try something that goes a point where it's 405 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:25,400 like, dude, the too cool for school route doesn't look 406 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,300 fantastic when you're losing by 15 back-to-back games? 407 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,800 Yeah it my thing is was, you know, everybody's coaching 408 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,300 demeanor is certainly different but there are Ways to like look 409 00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:42,700 like you're engaged, you know, by like making changes for per 410 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:44,800 se. Like, let's say, Fran had what's 411 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,500 demeanor, you would still know he was engaged because they 412 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:51,100 switch defense it. You know, they changed up how 413 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:54,000 they were getting the ball offensive ly, like, little 414 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,800 things like that. Like show you like, all right, 415 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,900 like I have a pulse here on what's going on and that's 416 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:02,900 what's frustrating about. I use it just seems like 417 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,300 adjustments and changes aren't being made. 418 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:08,000 To like you know it's like trying to fit a square peg in a 419 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,300 round hole right now with some things they do offensive, ly and 420 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:12,700 defensively, it's like Mega shit. 421 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:14,100 You know. I loved that against 422 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:17,000 Northwestern they showed a little bit of Zone like they 423 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,100 actually yeah it made a change because they were getting sliced 424 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:23,900 by like the number 120th can Palm office in the country. 425 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,700 Yeah, it's it's, it's just, it's so frustrating. 426 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:31,000 You know, I went on bark for back after you mention that with 427 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,700 gaalan and kind of set the parameters and then I control F 428 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,900 which You do a search for Indiana? 429 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Indiana was the second search because Indiana state was ranked 430 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:48,900 above them, since no one. And that's where again, you have 431 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:51,700 to caveat it. You know, having Xavier out is, 432 00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:54,300 is a big deal having race out are big deals. 433 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:58,900 But you know, these issues were happening before. 434 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,000 Xavier went out before race went out. 435 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,200 And you know the thing is quietly, you know, I was having 436 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,500 Race Thompson was, you know, had a pretty good game against Iowa 437 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:10,300 before then was not having a great season. 438 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:11,800 How you do? This is a killer race. 439 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,700 He's like he was having an offseason. 440 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:16,600 The trouble is you lose him? And now it's like, you have this 441 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 back who's the backup? Like there's nobody who can 442 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,800 really play, and, like Geronimo played better against Penn 443 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,200 State's, that's good. But still like, you know, you 444 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,900 look at a guy like Geronimo with. 445 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:30,500 It's like all right. You know part of what was 446 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:33,400 getting people excited this year is like you saw a little 447 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,800 development at the end of last year. 448 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,400 It's like all right. Build on that and it again, I'm 449 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,500 not knocking his exist, it doesn't seem to be a bit too. 450 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,700 Seems to have been any thing built on make. 451 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:46,800 It looks like the same Geronimo we had last year, which then to 452 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,300 me, it's like you look back at the coaching staff. 453 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:51,200 It's like, all right, if I'm not saying they can see everything 454 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,100 in their.all knowing, but it's like if you don't think you're 455 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:56,500 going to be able to get any Improvement of this guy, maybe 456 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,300 that's somebody. You let go into the portal and 457 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:00,900 you get somebody else out of the portal. 458 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:03,500 Like that was the whole idea here is you're bringing all 459 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,300 these guys back. And so you're going to have this 460 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,700 This, you know, team that has a lot of experience and we're 461 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:11,600 going to all get better and if you know, seems like there's 462 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600 really nobody behind race Thompson, who can fill that 463 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,400 spot, it's like to me that's that was a problem that could 464 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,700 have been solved last spring and you should have kind of seen 465 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:21,800 that cut. That's that's what you get. 466 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,000 Paid the money for, for being a high level D1 coach is you need 467 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 to be able to see those things and if it doesn't work out, it's 468 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,600 on the feet of the coaching staff in my mind's eye. 469 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,400 Absolutely. And that's, you know, a lot of 470 00:23:33,408 --> 00:23:36,400 the people that I do the negativity, Yes and it, which I 471 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,300 okay, whatever. Like that's fine, you're 472 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:41,100 entitled to that opinion. But you know, it with the 473 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:45,200 portal, you can construct the team pretty quickly, you know, 474 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,900 in for Indiana's, you know, a lot of people like you got to 475 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:49,700 give him four years to get his guys. 476 00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:51,200 It's like that's not how it works anymore. 477 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,000 You know, you can construct a roster pretty quickly, and then 478 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,700 when I, you know, again Xavier race important pieces to the 479 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:04,200 puzzle, but when I look at Penn State's roster versus Indiana's 480 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,300 roster, Anna starts a 5 Star point guard, and then they 481 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:12,200 started Galloway last night. Who is a four-star? 482 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,300 They started cop, who's a five year starter in the Big Ten, 483 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,900 they started Jordan Geronimo, who was a three-star, I think 484 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,400 French for Star. They started tray. 485 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,600 Second Davis, was five-star recruit coming off the bench. 486 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,800 They got tomorrow, Bates was a fringe five-star, they've gotten 487 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,000 weak, renew Fringe, five-star coming off a bit like that's 488 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,300 seven guys that right there that are cat, you know, on paper. 489 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,900 Extremely talented players, you look at Penn State, you know, 490 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:41,100 these are top, 400 level recruits and things like that. 491 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:45,600 And so it's like okay I'm with you, recruiting rankings, don't 492 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,400 mean a lot to me. However, these guys are very 493 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 obviously talented, you know, several people that understand 494 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,200 basketball rated them highly like that. 495 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,900 That means something versus these guys are Penn State. 496 00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:00,000 Like, you look at, I mean, they just absolutely Indiana was 497 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,100 never in the game after the first 10 minutes of the game 498 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:05,000 because they just ran a more effective offense. 499 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,800 They were were locked in on the Scout on defense and ran Indiana 500 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,000 out of the gym and I and you know biggest what a friend is 501 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:20,800 Going yeah no it's it's not good going a little bit more macro 502 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,500 you know you mentioned the giving them more not you but 503 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,800 like that that if refrain like we gotta give more time. 504 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,100 Like I am so tired of hearing that. 505 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:31,600 The the two things I will say is I went in this with the last pot 506 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,500 with gaalan, but when you retroactively look back, you 507 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,600 know, keep it quick for those who've listened to all the pods 508 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,100 and for those listening, appreciate it. 509 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:43,200 You know, crean had four years after the number one season 510 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Archie. Add four years. 511 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,100 And so, you're going to both say that those guys had a, we kept 512 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:51,000 them too long which I agree with Archie. 513 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,000 I actually, I think cream was the right time. 514 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,400 You just want a Big Ten title, his third year, it's like that's 515 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,800 four years. So if you say that's too long 516 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,300 than three years is, it should be the new window. 517 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,300 That's means we're halfway done. And then, you know, you 518 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,500 mentioned a guy who I have, like, he's not leaving, we're 519 00:26:07,508 --> 00:26:10,400 not getting him, but it's like Nate oats what he's doing at 520 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,400 Alabama. I don't, I don't keep up with 521 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Alabama deeply, but just looking at, If their numbers, you know, 522 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,600 that was a team that in 2019 was coached by and be a guy Avery 523 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,900 Johnson didn't work too. Well, that was a team that I 524 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:23,500 don't think had much going for them. 525 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,500 They weren't men. The tournament his first year. 526 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,000 They're 16 and 15. His second year, there twenty 527 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,100 six and seven to two seed in the tournament, they're 19 and 14. 528 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,200 The next year this year, they're 14 and to look at one of the 529 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,800 best teams the country like that's Alabama. 530 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,700 That's a school where I'm not sure, you know, the judge, I 531 00:26:38,708 --> 00:26:41,500 don't know, they know where they feel that they football school. 532 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,500 If you know what you're doing and you have a system, it 533 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:49,200 doesn't take that long. The other thing I would say to 534 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:52,100 where I think you have to be more aggressive is you could 535 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:56,300 even retroactively go back and say that crean and Archie both 536 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:00,900 probably deserved a little more time because if Archie had been 537 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:04,000 able to figure it out and turn it around, it's like all right 538 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,100 there's a guy in his mid-40s we got 20 plus years of now. 539 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,000 Having a stable system ready to go. 540 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,100 This was always going to be a thing with Woodson is he's in 541 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:16,100 his mid. TS like even if it's killing it, 542 00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,400 he's got six more years or seven more years. 543 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,300 I don't want to 78 year old coach so there's a short window 544 00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:26,000 anyway, and if he's going to, if we're going to need more time to 545 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600 figure this out, like we don't have more time. 546 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:30,600 Like this is not a 20-year window. 547 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,200 You have a five or six-year window. 548 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,100 You can't just piss one away. So to me, it's like you have to 549 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:39,200 be even more focused. And and, you know, going that, I 550 00:27:39,208 --> 00:27:42,500 don't know that those anywhere you want to go off of those 551 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:43,700 thoughts. That really a question, but I'm 552 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:47,600 just Shut up and let you talk. Yeah I feel the same way in 553 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000 this. This Woodson higher was very 554 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,900 clearly. Not like all right this is our 555 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,000 guy moving forward for the next two decades and this is who's 556 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,200 going to take us to the promised land for, you know, for the rest 557 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,700 of the time, it was. All right, this is somebody 558 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:06,300 who's going to come in, steer us on the proper track. 559 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,400 And then the next guy is going to be the guy that's like the 560 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,800 program foundation and the pace of the program and all of that. 561 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000 That will like to mention it's five. 562 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,500 Six-year window may be here for Mike Woodson. 563 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,000 You know, you're one, if any others knowing that that Big Ten 564 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Tournament run and you know the ghost 36 hours right? 565 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Otherwise it's it's in nit birth for Indiana and then this season 566 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400 which looks like it's headed in a good place. 567 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,800 Obviously they could change the 1 January 12th but I don't see 568 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,400 how Early. And so, you're a third of the 569 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,700 way through kind of that, like, getting us back on track, and 570 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:56,600 you're right where you were, essentially when you let go of 571 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,200 Archie and and next year, if you don't get some portal additions, 572 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,300 it looks even worse. And so yeah, because how does 573 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,000 the, how does the recruiting look for next year? 574 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,700 Because that's the thing to, I've been thinking of as 575 00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,500 everybody's like man you lose race and Xavier like I don't you 576 00:29:10,508 --> 00:29:13,700 know, you can't compete at the high level it's like I agree 577 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:16,300 like Your chance of the Big Ten title goes away but it's like 578 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,700 also next year, racing Xavier not going to be here. 579 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,300 Like so like no this is the core Galen nowheres cop, right? 580 00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:28,200 I would I would pump the brakes on Jalen. 581 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:33,800 I I do wonder. I hope he stays. 582 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:36,900 I think he could use it but I do wonder, you know, everybody's 583 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,100 kind of like all you Jalen's gone. 584 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,700 You know when you look at NBA draft, mock-up drafts, it's 585 00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:46,100 still early. Is he's in like late second 586 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,300 round mid second round. He's not really popping the 587 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:51,100 first round yet. I doubt we're gonna have that 588 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,100 n-c-double-a tournament run, that's gonna highlight him. 589 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Greatly know he could move up. I would also say to, you know 590 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,500 this, like whether guys pan out or not is a different story, but 591 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,500 I would say that right now, half of the lottery is already booked 592 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:07,800 for the like whether women Yama is good or bad. 593 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,900 Like that's a different story. He's the number one. 594 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,700 Pick scoot what, scoot Henderson I think from the g-league. 595 00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:14,800 He's the number two pick like Whether they're good is 596 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,100 different. Like it's like so. 597 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,300 Jalen is not going to crack the lottery. 598 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:20,500 No matter what this year just because like the lottery already 599 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,200 has six half a lotteries already taken. 600 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,200 So I do I just want to have fans pump the brakes on that. 601 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400 I think there's a world where he comes back but sorry, I cut you 602 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,400 off there but the point being give Jalen for next year. 603 00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:35,900 Yeah, you have this team. What, what is the incoming 604 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:37,800 freshman look like next year? Like what are we adding? 605 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,000 There's not a five-star coming in right now. 606 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,800 You've got Gabe cops who you know looks to be a solid point. 607 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Guard at these three star point guard, and kind of run the show, 608 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,500 but probably not really ready for freshman production as a 609 00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:53,400 point guard and you got to kind of Newton who hasn't played yet 610 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,500 this season. He's had a knee injuries and 611 00:30:55,500 --> 00:31:00,200 dealing with for the better part of the last six months or so and 612 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,600 those are your two recruits you've got in so far. 613 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400 So I mean you're going to have to hit the portal very hard 614 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,300 Indiana. Struck out on the 23 class on 615 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:11,800 some of the guys they were trying to get this past fall and 616 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,600 summer. So Yeah, it's the picture for 617 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,500 next season isn't all, you know, bright and shiny either. 618 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:26,000 And so again you can change your roster very quickly but it can 619 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,700 be tough. Like I don't know what guys in 620 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:32,200 the port or thinking in terms of where they want to go, but I 621 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,900 know that if I saw a program like this where there looks to 622 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:41,700 be some internal strife along with not performing on the court 623 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,200 right now, I don't know that I would be clamoring to go to a 624 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,500 place like that. Now look, Indiana has some 625 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:50,400 Prestige and you get to play on National Television, pretty much 626 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 every night. And that certainly is enticing 627 00:31:53,400 --> 00:32:00,600 to recruit but you know, I have a hard time not being pretty - 628 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,300 right now and almost Doom and Gloom just based on. 629 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:08,400 I always thought this season was going to be the kind of like 630 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,200 either, going to take a step forward, they're going to, you 631 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,900 know, hopefully be a second weekend team and the Here, it's 632 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,700 going to be a step back and going to be some learning you 633 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,500 know hopefully like a fringe tournament team perhaps but 634 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:21,900 there's light at the end of the tunnel and right now, I just 635 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,200 there's not a lot alike. No, and the other. 636 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,500 Let's get let's will stay negative and positive. 637 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,500 The the other negative thing too is you know, you mentioned like 638 00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:36,500 yeah we should be able to get people in the portal this 639 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,300 because you have the prestige were Indian all that. 640 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:41,000 I I'm getting more and more nervous as that you know the 641 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,300 landscape is changing quickly under your feet. 642 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:46,900 I'm not I hate to keep coming back to Nato to in Alabama but 643 00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,600 it's like our whole life. Alabama's never really been like 644 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,400 lots of that's a Powerhouse and in basketball it's like he's 645 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,900 built something there and you know into Talking to some other 646 00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,400 friends. Like I don't I'm not sure he'll 647 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,800 ever leave like, I don't know why he has to leave and it's 648 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,200 like if if a guy like that doesn't want to leave Alabama 649 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,000 again, like the landscape is changing. 650 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,500 Like you have to go to a blue blood and if you're a transfer 651 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,400 like what's, you know, Muslims building some in Arkansas 652 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,900 outside of those two years in the 90s, like Arkansas has been 653 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:16,600 a hot bed. You know, like Baylor, Scott, 654 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,300 Drew's, building something there, like the the players in 655 00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:22,600 different parts of the country are popping in different ways. 656 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Guys are building new programs and new places like It feels 657 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,700 like we're a bit of a sea change, which we are and IL like 658 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,200 everything's changing, you know, the idea of a blue blood and 659 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,300 like, we have all the resources, I'm not sure that matters 660 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:36,800 anymore. And if you're a young player 661 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,500 wants to transfer a sec, hey, I could go play a cool system or 662 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,000 there's already coaches in the big tent, like, you know, what, 663 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,300 Underwood's doing it Illinois. It's like, hey, I've brought in 664 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,600 a bunch of transfers this year. We're figuring it out, like, 665 00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:48,700 come here, we'll figure it out like it. 666 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,900 I really, really am concerned. Indiana, not saying you're 667 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:56,200 saying this, but it's like, if the thought, Says you kind of 668 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,900 they well we're Indiana. It's Indiana. 669 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:00,100 And like people are going to want to come here because I I 670 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,500 think that's old style thinking you're you know, you're GE in a 671 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:07,800 world of Google and Amazon and apple and Facebook. 672 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:12,600 Yeah, I mean I will say Indiana seems to have ni L figured out 673 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,300 pretty well, probably probably top 10 to 20 program in terms of 674 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,199 and IL. And in terms of support for 675 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,600 basketball at the very least which I do think does help. 676 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,699 Yeah, you're right landscape. But yeah, again though, you 677 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:29,900 know, if your you've got two competing in il deal and you're 678 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:32,300 in the transfer market, do you want to go play for a program? 679 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:34,900 That just went to the Sweet 16, or you want to go play for a 680 00:34:34,908 --> 00:34:39,800 program where, you know, They weren't met and guys are 681 00:34:39,808 --> 00:34:42,300 fighting people on Instagram and things like that. 682 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:45,500 So what you mentioned that to you, that that's something that 683 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:48,300 I have. This is one of the things I hate 684 00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:50,699 about recruiting. Like I hate people who go after 685 00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:52,500 kids, who go to different school, like, you know, high 686 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:54,000 school kids like just don't even Tech. 687 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Please stop tweeting it then like we're all adults here. 688 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,100 I'm even the same boat. Like, I have as I'm getting 689 00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,800 older, it's weird. Watching college basketball. 690 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,100 Now that I mean like my mid-40s and be like man these kids are 691 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:07,400 young with 18, 19. 20 like I'm much more. 692 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:10,600 I've always Has been like I want to go, I want to, I'm going to 693 00:35:10,607 --> 00:35:11,900 criticize. I'm going to criticize the 694 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:13,500 adults who are full-time employees. 695 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:14,800 I you say, who the ones are getting paid. 696 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,700 But now like the ones who have W to jobs and get benefits, I 697 00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:22,000 should say now. But you know, I will say this 698 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,200 that, you know, this is a situation where I do think, you 699 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,000 know, the coaching staff the adults in the room, need to tell 700 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,600 you, tell the players like look, stop, like I know social media 701 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,000 is big. I know it's the way that your 702 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000 work, your online all the time. I get it but it's like no one's 703 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,000 going to win those battles. You can't, you know, this is 704 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,300 where the university is kind of step in like look we can't be 705 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,400 aggravating like I'm not saying who's right or wrong but it's 706 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,400 like you can't have the team fighting with the fan base. 707 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,500 Like, fans are going to do dumb shit. 708 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,100 That's what fans do. I'm not excusing any of it. 709 00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,900 It's wrong fans shouldn't be tweeting. 710 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:55,600 Its players. I've never done that. 711 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,600 Nor will I ever do that? I saw that note. 712 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,700 Trace Jackson, Davis and out. Like that's despicable. 713 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:03,600 People shouldn't be writing notes to players like, but it's 714 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,400 like you also have to rise above that noise and, you know, the 715 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,600 players are never going to win that. 716 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,200 Battle and especially it looks really bad. 717 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400 It's like you're talking about your smack and then you go out 718 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,000 and lose 15 to North Penn State. Like that's not going to look 719 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 great either. It's like this is where the 720 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,500 adults and I used to hate stop. Like we're taking your, you're 721 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,500 just you're not responding on any of the social media until 722 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,500 the end of the season. Then after that, you know, go on 723 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,400 blast and go nuts. I I do think there needs to be 724 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,700 some some control here because it it's looking bad. 725 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:36,500 When you have players like going after, you have like the team 726 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,900 going after fans again. I'm not saying the fans are 727 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:41,800 right, but it's like that's what fans do. 728 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,000 You're not going to stop it, I don't know. 729 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,200 I just I wish it could all like all of that noise could just 730 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,000 stop because it's not helping any of this. 731 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,700 Yeah it is you know it's an Optics thing, right? 732 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:57,000 It's just like you know us that our day jobs you know we don't 733 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,400 we don't go like I don't go fighting my customers on Twitter 734 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,000 even though I think there might be wrong when they tweet at my 735 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,500 company about how we wronged them you know. 736 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,500 It's like I don't want to say the customer's always, right? 737 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,100 Fans, always right? Because there are some 738 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,900 despicable fans and as you noted the letter and all those things 739 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,700 are just despicable and there's no place for it and nor should 740 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:20,000 there be or Toleration for it but the same time to as you 741 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,400 mentioned like the adults in the room step in and be like, guys, 742 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,200 look this is frustrating. Don't look at the bar stool. 743 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,700 I you comment section. It's because I mean, that's 744 00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:32,400 where all the yeah, that's where all this happened in the bar 745 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,400 stool. Are you comment section? 746 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,100 Like, look, I'm I was I'm like, torn on that. 747 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,300 Like it's like, I don't know if it's a big deal. 748 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:45,900 It's magnified when you're losing for sure and so it's it's 749 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,600 it's the Optics of it. Alright. 750 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,900 It's like look just this isn't a good look for the University. 751 00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:53,500 And you know I look at social media and this program in 752 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:57,800 particular. So my questions daughter goes 753 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200 after people a lot on Twitter. She's done in a few different 754 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,800 times this year and right or wrong. 755 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,100 Whatever. I saw last night Logan Duncan's 756 00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,600 Grandma was too. That Mike Wilson, doesn't know 757 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,900 what he's doing. I saw David Johnson like the 758 00:38:10,908 --> 00:38:14,100 comment from somebody that said, wasn't in know what he's doing. 759 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,500 I saw Todd low tweeted that your friend. 760 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,700 No, he's doing. Like social media is a weird 761 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:27,300 place right now to be at a basketball because there's a lot 762 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:30,700 going on and, you know, as I said it just gets magnified and 763 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,700 then, you know, gets picked up by a national Outlet of look at 764 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:35,400 these Indiana kids or what's going on. 765 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200 Indiana basketball. Football or it's just it's a 766 00:38:38,207 --> 00:38:41,400 weird place and like, it's and I'm sure you'd find that if you 767 00:38:41,408 --> 00:38:43,500 went to Kansas and went to Kentucky and Arkansas, they 768 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,400 don't care. They're begin to Kentucky's. 769 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,000 You know, when to Kentucky's not mention, I'm sure they're having 770 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,600 two days. Kicked a fan out on a sign 771 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,900 saying you'll go to Cal go to Texas Calipari so I'm sure it 772 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:55,400 happens everywhere and your it's you know a couple people making 773 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,800 some noise but it does. It's just like I want my players 774 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,400 focus on just playing the game. I will say this is just a 775 00:39:01,408 --> 00:39:06,000 complete side note apropos of nothing but I I've been a 776 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,500 proponent payer players should be getting paid. 777 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,600 It's criminal, they didn't. I'm I always find it so funny 778 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,600 that the university could never pay for anything. 779 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,500 It's a go, you new practice facility, like, we gotta find a 780 00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:19,000 funder. It's a really, because you have 781 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,400 been paying your employees for 100 years and you decide the two 782 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,700 billion dollar TVD, like, I understand how it works. 783 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,800 I'm not an idiot. I get that. 784 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,500 He found. It was like, this is, It's 785 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,600 always funny how your arms really, really short, when you 786 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,800 got to pay for stuff anyway. Players should be getting paid, 787 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,900 they should be n. IL is fantastic. 788 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000 I mean, really, the universities. 789 00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,600 Be paying them. They should getting benefits 790 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,300 different story. The one thing with NI L that I'm 791 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:44,800 worried it's opening up is you know when you go to Pro sporting 792 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,900 events I'm not saying it's right, but you can go to a 793 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,300 Pacers game. I was picked on like, you know, 794 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:51,700 go go batons. I'm not a huge fan of him but 795 00:39:51,707 --> 00:39:53,900 it's like you can sit there and talk smack to go go and it's 796 00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:55,400 like, I'm not saying it's right, that's like in the end, he's 797 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,600 getting paid. Like he's making a very good 798 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,300 salary to play basketball and not that he should be hearing 799 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,800 it, but it's like, you know, your job is to win at that 800 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,000 level. If your job is to play really 801 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:06,700 Well, and score points. If you don't, it's like, you're 802 00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:10,800 not making your money. I do really worried that with NI 803 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,400 L and again, it should be happening. 804 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,200 I prefaced it all saying that. Like I think it opens the door 805 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,800 now. The people feel like they can go 806 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200 at college kids because like why they're getting paid. 807 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,400 So like I can start you know talking smack about their 808 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,600 performance and to me I think it's a fine line because again 809 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,900 you're looking at Guys Like, You Know, Tamar Bates is what like 810 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,700 20 years old and 19. The he's still a kid. 811 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:32,100 He looks like an adult. He plays basketball like an 812 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:35,000 adult, he's still a kid, he's got a lot of stuff going on and 813 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,700 Is not making millions of dollars, he's not making 814 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,700 generational money, not saying that GoGo is either. 815 00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:44,500 But you know, he's making more that, you know, but the point 816 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:47,700 stands and I do wonder if this is opening up a can of worms 817 00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:51,800 right now, some of those lower lower tier fans, I'll call them 818 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:55,000 feel like I now have the opportunity to just go after all 819 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,500 these guys, because like, they're professionals with air 820 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:00,200 quotes and I just that's the part that I'm like, I think we 821 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,400 need to be very, let's all be careful up there. 822 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:04,900 Yeah, I mean, you mix that, in with direct access. 823 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,400 Access to their Twitter accounts and yep, you could hear you're 824 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,100 gonna, you're going to see some vile stuff that's for sure. 825 00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:17,000 And, you know, I do think that that gets magnified to like I 826 00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:20,400 think I think the majority of the Indiana fan base is actually 827 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,100 very rational. I do. 828 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,400 I think that great, you know, it gets painted in a bad light and 829 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,300 you know they don't give God time and they're just running 830 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:30,600 coaches out of there. It's like no like Tom crean. 831 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,100 Everybody understood what he was going through. 832 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:35,600 Gave him time to write that ship and then That ship kind of 833 00:41:35,607 --> 00:41:37,500 sailed. You know year nine they're not 834 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:40,200 making the tournament and it just that ship sailed people 835 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,100 jumped off that ship Archie Miller, hot name. 836 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,600 Everybody was excited about that. 837 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,700 His first game, they get torch and everybody's kind of like oh 838 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,200 you know, he's implementing a system. 839 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,300 But what by your whore, they're chanting fire Archie because 840 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,500 nothing really changed it. So I actually think India has a 841 00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:59,400 fairly rational fanbase these. These Knuckleheads that write 842 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,700 letters and stuff about how terrible leaders people are. 843 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,100 Like, that's goofy. But that's that's not the The 844 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,600 the Indiana fan base. And so I do think it's painted 845 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,400 in a bad light because the loud few get magnified. 846 00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:15,900 So let's try an end on a positive. 847 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:19,000 I will have enough time to talk macro later about where we go 848 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,800 and like it'll bigger itself out the solution to all of this is 849 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,900 winds. And unfortunately, last night, 850 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:28,200 I'm sitting there looking at this and it's like I'm texting a 851 00:42:28,207 --> 00:42:32,700 few people but it's like I If we play like this, I mean honestly 852 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,900 it's like I don't outside of Minnesota, I'm not sure. 853 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,900 Sure where the winds come from. I know, that's not the way it 854 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,900 works. I know that we will win some 855 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,900 games that were not expected to win. 856 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,100 We're going to probably lose some more that we're not looking 857 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:49,000 for, but how do you see us getting out of this, you know, 858 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,300 with play with adjustments? Like how do we do that? 859 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:54,800 Because we're not going to lose out. 860 00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:58,400 I still think we were still projected at 9 and 11. 861 00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:02,200 I literally don't know how we get to nine wins sitting here on 862 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,900 January 12th, but I know we're not going to end the season you 863 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:10,100 know, whatever to and whatever that would be to win, that only 864 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:15,000 works in. Would I be so tell me how do you 865 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:19,000 how do we get out of this? Yeah, I think some of it is like 866 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,300 a shooter going through a shooting. 867 00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:24,600 So mattoni solvent, some of it is like a shooter getting out of 868 00:43:24,607 --> 00:43:27,000 shooting slump, you know, like Steph Curry, you know, and a 869 00:43:27,008 --> 00:43:32,300 couple games will go. 24 25. And it's like, okay, you know 870 00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,800 that he's a great shooter, you know what he's capable of, but 871 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,000 he's struggling and then finally, one goes in and then 872 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000 all of a sudden, he makes eight or nine in a game and then he 873 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,900 kind of gets back on the right path to me. 874 00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:48,200 It's kind of like that. Like Indiana is lacking any sort 875 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,400 of confidence right now and their ability to play offense or 876 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,600 defense in be quite honestly they need a game where 877 00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,200 Everything just kind of gets put together, like they, they're 878 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,900 capable of it. We know, they are, they need a 879 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:05,600 game where everything kind of gets put together. 880 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,800 That could be Wisconsin playing without Tyler wall, you're at 881 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,500 home fan bases and see, like, and then you win that game and 882 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:15,800 then all of a sudden things turn around, you know, look at Iowa, 883 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,200 Iowa had a loss to Eastern Illinois. 884 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:21,600 It's like the biggest kin Palm differential in history, where 885 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,700 the team didn't win their down, 22 Indiana, you know, just 886 00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,500 everything looks all for their program. 887 00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,300 They come In that second half against IU next game. 888 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,200 They go to Rutgers and win at Rutgers which is like impossible 889 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,800 to do so, you know, look at Illinois, they are struggling, 890 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,200 they're struggling, they're five star point guard leaves the 891 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,200 program, they reel off a couple wins in a row and now their 892 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,400 season looks like it's back on track. 893 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,000 Like What we're crazy innocence at IU, you know, I talked about 894 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,500 how rational fan base is. But you know, a lot of times, we 895 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:55,200 live in a globe where we don't really see what else is going on 896 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,100 outside of Indiana. But like this isn't there. 897 00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:01,100 This isn't the only team that had expectations this year that 898 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:02,200 is. It hasn't been meeting them. 899 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,600 Yeah and some other teams have gotten back on the right ship. 900 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,100 Now have all those teams had two starters injured, don't know 901 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,500 with that said though you know, I do think there's a path to get 902 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:14,900 back on the right track. Back. 903 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:19,100 But they it's going to take a collective confidence boost. 904 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:22,600 Like it's not like oh, Tres gets hot and scorched, 30 and so 905 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,900 everybody else just like it's happy again, it's like I've 906 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:29,000 Collective confidence boost, you know, you hold Wisconsin to 55 907 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600 points or something and you look at that film to, hey, look, look 908 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,600 how good you did here. Like, you know, you have a film 909 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,800 session where everything's positive and look at the things 910 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,200 we can do. And maybe you do that today, 911 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,700 maybe you go back to the North Carolina film and say, look how 912 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,600 we defended here. Look what you did here. 913 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,400 Like, you know, there's there's different ways to kind of try to 914 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,900 boost Confidence and you know, as a coach that's been through a 915 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:51,800 long losing streak and I've tried to pull out all the stops 916 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,200 before as well to get things back on the right track. 917 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,700 I remember at Southport one year, we were on like an 918 00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:59,500 eight-game losing streak. Didn't feel like the guys were 919 00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:01,700 playing hard. You know, I took quotes from all 920 00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:03,100 the stop word grades, I called him up. 921 00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,400 Hey give me a quote about what it means to be a Southport card. 922 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,900 I'll give me a quote and then I distribute that to the team like 923 00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:10,200 this is you know, these are the guys that laid the foundation 924 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,600 for you to be here bottle of like I've tried it all. 925 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:17,200 So I've been For and it's, you know, I know that we think like, 926 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,500 there's a lot of people are like, oh, you know, what's in. 927 00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:20,800 It doesn't seem to care about why. 928 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,100 Like, I'm sure him and his coaching staff right now are 929 00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:24,700 very stressed out. No matter what they say in the 930 00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:26,600 press conference and they're trying to figure out the right 931 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,200 buttons to push, like I'm positive of that like, 932 00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:32,700 regardless of what you think of the guy, or how he coaches. 933 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,100 I'm positive. He's trying to figure out how to 934 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:37,600 write this shit. And so what that is, I don't 935 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,800 know. Is there a way? 936 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,800 Yes. Is it guaranteed to happen? 937 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:46,100 So we'll see. Yeah, I know, I think you laid 938 00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,700 out some great stuff there. I mean, I think you know, the 939 00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:52,600 the fact that he went to Zone against Northwestern we need to 940 00:46:52,607 --> 00:46:54,400 start seeing more adjustments. I think. 941 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,500 Hopefully you're going to see that and I look at the schedule 942 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:59,400 here. Again, just for the guy who's 943 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,900 been texting the shortest, another win, you know, it's got 944 00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:06,300 to happen soon but you do have, you know, this is a point where 945 00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:09,300 you got to, you've got to, you've got to use home court to 946 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,400 your advantage and you have one of the weakest teams based on 947 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,100 Ken, Palm coming in Wisconsin as a home game like this is, if you 948 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:20,500 could win, if you could just find a way to get some kind of 949 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:23,100 momentum change like you said, kind of have that shot go in, 950 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,400 get a win here. If I was, you know, if I was 951 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,100 coaching In this team I'd almost be like all right you know 952 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,400 forget Illinois like just let's look at Wisconsin. 953 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,300 Michigan State. I let's go two and two and one 954 00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:36,300 and our next three like let's let's use Assembly Hall to our 955 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,800 advantage because then we go to Minnesota and that's a 956 00:47:38,808 --> 00:47:40,700 manageable Road game. I gots a road game, you should 957 00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:43,300 be able to win. Now you've gone 3 in 14 games 958 00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,700 like that. Now, you're coming home to Ohio 959 00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,300 State and it's like, Ohio, State's really good, but now you 960 00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:49,500 have Assembly Hall. Like, to me, it's like assembly 961 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:50,800 Halls. Like, has got to be the 962 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,300 Fortress, you protect, and that's where you go to feel 963 00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:55,400 good. Because, unfortunately, after 964 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,000 this, run your home games, After that in February are Purdue and 965 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,500 Rutgers. It's like, you still Assembly 966 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,000 Hall, but those are really tough games. 967 00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:07,200 And then, you know, you have Illinois and then you finish 968 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,100 with Iowa and Michigan. But by the time you get to the 969 00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:11,600 Illinois, game, February 18th. If you haven't turned shit 970 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,400 around by then it's like, it's over like at that point. 971 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,700 Now you're just a dead man walking, and you may not even 972 00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:19,500 have a shot at NCAA tournament. So that's how I would look at 973 00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:23,000 framing. The next couple of weeks is I 974 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,500 honestly would almost like right off the Illinois game and just 975 00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:29,000 like, let's focus on protecting Eating home court and do what we 976 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,300 can. They're not that you want to 977 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:33,800 lose games, but it's like, let's just don't know that's how I 978 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,700 would look at it. And I, again, I think in a world 979 00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,300 like that, you know, this this team even without race, even 980 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:43,400 without Xavier. It has the talent and it has the 981 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,900 ability to beat Wisconsin and Michigan State at home. 982 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:47,900 It just does. And when it was constant M, 983 00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:50,900 sorry I Minnesota on the road so that makes you three in one in 984 00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:53,400 four games. Like that helps right the ship 985 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,300 and maybe that confidence helps bring some of those guys back 986 00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:59,500 but What'd you do man? Much easier said than done, the 987 00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:01,400 date is not set the world on fire this year. 988 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,500 You know. There's not yeah. 989 00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,500 It's like absolute dogs that are in the conference that are just 990 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,200 insurmountable talent that you just can't overcome outside of a 991 00:49:09,207 --> 00:49:12,100 couple programs. You know, looking macro, big 992 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:15,800 picture here Indiana's, got six games before that Purdue home 993 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,500 game on a Saturday where, you know, Assembly Hall is going to 994 00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,100 be rocking. All indications currently are. 995 00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,600 That's that's kind of the timeline of race coming back. 996 00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:27,000 Is that game? If you could? 997 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,300 Three, and three before, that Purdue game. 998 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:31,600 You got six games as you mentioned, you've got Wisconsin, 999 00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:35,500 you got Minnesota and then you can win one of the Michigan 1000 00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:37,900 State or the Maryland or house at home or whatever the case may 1001 00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:40,600 be. If you can go 3 and 3 500 is all 1002 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,600 right before going into that Purdue home game and you get 1003 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,300 race Thompson back and you're playing an electric environment 1004 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,800 and produce got two freshmen that would probably have never 1005 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600 seen that type of environment as hostile before. 1006 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,700 Yep you have an opportunity there where if you can go 1007 00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:59,700 through and Three and somehow, pull out that Purdue game that 1008 00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:01,600 you can kind of turn your season around, and you've got race 1009 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,600 Thompson back and that's where that confidence boost comes out. 1010 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,300 Hey, we got like our guy and, you know, we've got some glue to 1011 00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:11,800 us and like, Now that's very wishful thinking obviously and a 1012 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,400 lot has to change for Indiana to get to that outcome but that 1013 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,300 like that's the light at the end of the tunnel for me is like I'm 1014 00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:21,700 just asking for three and three like get to the 500, get a 1015 00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:25,100 little bit more healthy and then figure out a way to somehow be 1016 00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,600 Purdue and just kind of like turn your season around and 1017 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,400 start playing your best basketball and then hopefully 1018 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,600 get XJ back. Sometime at the end of February 1019 00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:36,300 and figure out a way to get into the tournament and, you know, 1020 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,700 surprises all there. That's like, that's yeah. 1021 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,100 No, no. It's the thing is that we have 1022 00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,700 the talent to do that. It's just, we've got to, we've 1023 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:49,800 got to play with a little more Christmas, a little more 1024 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,900 Effectiveness, and it's like that that does come down to 1025 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,200 coaching and this is, you know, I will flip it all in. 1026 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,300 Just say for people who, you know, I got a couple of friends 1027 00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:59,600 who like, man, take some breaths, like Big Ten stuff. 1028 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:05,200 It's like this is unfortunately you know, every coach at IU 1029 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,800 Woodson is now bearing this brunt. 1030 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,600 Like this is what you bear when you have a Program that has 1031 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:14,400 sky-high expectations, that frankly charges, the prices for 1032 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,300 fans of Sky, you know, charges BMW prices but gives you Chevy 1033 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:20,200 results. Like we've, you know, I was 1034 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,700 joking, my son is six years old, he's never seen, Indiana finish 1035 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,500 above 500. The Big Ten we finished above 1036 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,200 500, the Big Ten once in the last like nine years and it's 1037 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,500 just it is and and unfortunately that the pressure continues to 1038 00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,400 build year-over-year. It's not, you know, Woodson is 1039 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,800 carrying two years on his back but really Carry eight years 1040 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,300 like he's carrying the four years of Archie and for all you 1041 00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:43,700 know for people like take a breath. 1042 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:47,200 It's like well these are all the same warning, signs and weird. 1043 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,700 Tingly feelings that had in the middle of the Archie era during 1044 00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,300 that 12 13 losing streak. But when you know people take a 1045 00:51:52,308 --> 00:51:54,400 breath given time. It's like what we did that 1046 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,200 already and it's like it's maybe it's unfair to Woodson but it's 1047 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,100 like it's reality. Like I lived those four years. 1048 00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:02,800 I'm not going back in time and redoing like those years are 1049 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,900 gone. I'm now 44 years old, I was 40 1050 00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:08,700 when I started with argue 38, it's like that. 1051 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,400 Times gone. And unfortunately, we all had 1052 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,100 that feeling and we were all told to wait and we waited and 1053 00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,800 now you know, we're feeling that again. 1054 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,300 And so for fans to feel that again I don't think it's 1055 00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,100 unreasonable to be like, hey I'm really concerned even though 1056 00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:24,400 it's the middle of January even though it's only his second 1057 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,900 year. It's like this is got to turn 1058 00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,700 around and it's going to turn on quickly because we've all seen 1059 00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:33,700 this movie before very recently and unfortunately you know, one 1060 00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:35,600 of two things is going to have to happen. 1061 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,700 Either Indiana is basketballs going to have to start playing. 1062 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,600 Meet level or they're going to have to stop selling us as a 1063 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,500 high level program or else you're going to have this 1064 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:47,500 continued problem. Where if things don't turn 1065 00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:51,900 around quickly, people are pissed because it's, it's what 1066 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,800 the university is selling us. I'm sorry. 1067 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,200 I've been a donor since I've been a donor, my entire adult 1068 00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,800 life. I've given money to The Varsity 1069 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,800 Club, at good levels. I've been a basketball season 1070 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,600 ticket holder. I've been a football season 1071 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,500 ticket holder. We're getting to that point in 1072 00:53:06,508 --> 00:53:08,700 my life, where I'm like, am I really getting value for my 1073 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:09,200 money? Money. 1074 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,200 I really just think that's a real question. 1075 00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:13,600 It's and love of the university all that. 1076 00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:15,900 I'm sorry. I'm venting here, but it's like 1077 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,200 I loved by you. I love having my tickets. 1078 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,100 I don't want to get rid of them, but it's like II work to make 1079 00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:26,000 money and I do things with money with my family and I give a good 1080 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,000 amount of money to IU, and that's my decision. 1081 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,600 The value prop is really starting to get tweaked for me 1082 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,300 at this point in my life. And I want that to change. 1083 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,700 I'm all-in. I'm with you, man. 1084 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:41,600 It's, it's a lie. It's a struggle and it's, it's 1085 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,500 not fun. And as you mentioned, it's kind 1086 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:45,700 of like history repeating itself right now. 1087 00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:48,700 And that's why there's concerns here because we've kind of seen 1088 00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:52,000 this song and dance prior, and in the like, give it time, give 1089 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000 it time, give it time, like, how much time we gotta get it 1090 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,800 before? Like, things turn around and we 1091 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,800 just haven't seen it and 67 years. 1092 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,100 Like any level of success that meets the expectations of 1093 00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:06,400 Indiana fans. And yeah, and the worst thing 1094 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,600 happened is apathy sets in and that's kind of what happened 1095 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,600 with With, with the end of the art Sierra, that's kind of what 1096 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,600 has happened with Indiana football now after he sets and 1097 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,100 people stop caring. And that's when that's what 1098 00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:21,500 you're in trouble to me. I agree. 1099 00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:24,600 Well let's let's and because I don't think we should have it on 1100 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,000 the positive note. It's been awesome. 1101 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:34,500 Yeah. Hopefully we have better things 1102 00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,700 to talk about and we see better things on the court until next 1103 00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:38,800 time. Tony it's been awesome. 1104 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,900 Having you on will have you on a couple weeks maybe after that. 1105 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Maybe after that Minnesota game we'll see where we are at for 1106 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000 game stretch but you be good. Thank you all for listening out 1107 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,800 there. Appreciate all the support. 1108 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,500 Keep it positive online. Come on, I'll be the what? 1109 00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:53,000 Let's be the positive to positive. 1110 00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,700 They have a site with that. Thank you all for listening. 1111 00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:58,200 This is Scott for Crimson cast signing off.