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happy 4th of July everybody. Galen Clavio, Scott Caulfield
joining you on the show. And we are living it up.
It's Independence Day weekend or week, I guess it's always
interesting when these holidays fall on like, a Tuesday,
Wednesday or Thursday, Scott. I mean, you know, like Memorial
Day, it's Monday. It's part of a weekend, no
problem. Labor Day, it's part of a
weekend, you know. But Independence Day, probably
more than any of the other ones, is like a wild card.
Like, yeah, the Christmas, when Christmas happens, it's or, you
know, you got that week and the new year.
It's like all part of the same like holiday complex.
But obviously I think everybody loves it when the 4th of July
happens like this in the middle of the week for almost every
reason except the parades. Because it's like, you know,
that we've been having this debate in our neighborhood.
Like are we having a parade on the 4th?
It looks like not because it's supposed to rain down here.
Does that mean we've been pushed it to the weekend?
Should it just be there already? Is that when the fireworks
happen? But on the flip side, it's like
I feel like everybody on the in the United States is probably
taking at least part of Friday off, if not the entire Friday
and and maybe taking today off as well.
So happy 4th Scott, I guess is my message to you.
Yeah, and to me, the 4th is always like the apex of summer
'cause you, you, you get out of school and then June's kind of
like, man, like I got to, you know, just enjoy summer And you
kind of do a couple things in June and it's like June always
seems to go pretty long in my mind.
And then you get to the 4th of July and then it's like,
normally there's a couple of camps for the kids.
Maybe you take one week of vacation.
But next thing you know, it's like you're staring down the
barrel of, you know, for my wife starting school teaching again,
it's like, man, we're three weeks away from the start.
Like after the 4th, it just becomes a quick downhill sled
right into school starting. And I'm sure you're thinking
exactly what my wife thinks, cuz I'm always like two weeks like
stop it. Why are you bringing that up?
Like we're still in summer. I mean, and look, as a, as a
college educator myself, I, I can see it coming.
And you know, even though the, you know, the elementary school
and and middle school and high school go back earlier in
August, like ridiculously early, in my opinion, we've got that
coming on the horizon as well. So yes, I, I feel it quite
keenly. Why you brought it up, I have no
idea. But I also will say that I feel
like July still feel safe. I don't really feel like when
I'm in July, I feel like I'm in a, a nice protected bubble of
time off for the most part. As someone who teaches, I, I
obviously many of you out there do not feel that way because
you're working throughout the course of, of the full year.
And I'm, I'm frankly still working myself.
I'm in the office. But like, it's the pressure, the
added pressure of like everybody being, I think living in a
college town like Bloomington, it's like a specific type of
unique feeling. Because Bloomington for those of
you who you will, you know, 'cause you grew up here and for
those of you who have lived in Bloomington and have taken the
time to do a Bloomington summer, it is vacant down here.
Like you'll, and even more so now.
Like it used to be that people would come to Bloomington for
the, the first part of the summer.
You'd have I core kids or you'd have people doing summer school.
That really hasn't happened much now after the pandemic,
Bloomington is kind of a ghost town.
And so even though you're right, you know, the, the school year
and, and all of that pressure is on the horizon, it does feel
like a weird Oasis up right up until the end of July in
Bloomington and probably in other college towns because
there's just nobody around. It's the thing that I'm maybe
miss, one of the things I miss quietly most about living in
Bloomington year in, year out and growing up there is that
you're right. Like even when there was a lot
of summer school going on, like the late June, mid-july, it's
just, it is the, the hibernation period for Bloomington.
Like everything is empty, Everything's available.
And it's one of those things you can go back for a day or two,
but like living in it like you are now, it's like the, the city
has so much bustle for a small town with college when it's in
that when it's out, it is such a weird month.
So I, I, I know exactly what you're saying.
The other thing that I will just, you know, having a
podcast, I will make one request here for one of our not sure if
he listens, but a friend of yours, but I don't want to call
him out, but IU Gray on Instagram.
So he knows who he is. He's doing what I've always
wanted to do as a kid who played tennis growing up in high
school. I always get into Wimbledon.
Jeremy Gray. I don't want to just I want to
at least have something that this Twitter handle, I'm not
trying to call him out, but you did.
So there you go. Jeremy Gray, if you're
listening, he has some pictures posted at Wimbledon.
These are not. These are on public social media
places. I have always wanted to go to
Wimbledon. I watch it every year.
I love it. It see getting tickets seems
tough. So reach out man.
Let me know how you got the tickets and let let's talk
'cause that's that's been like highlight of my sports bucket
list as we talk about July things.
I you, you too. I greatly admire both of you and
you both love tennis and I, I don't like tennis to me is is a
sport that I've never been able to get connected to on an
emotional level. So I'm always, I'm always
fascinated by that, the people who have the emotional
connection to tennis and who want to go to these, you know,
kind of temples of the game. And Wimbledon obviously is is
probably the biggest one of them all.
I don't know. I find the whole thing
fascinating. If it looks very amazing, yeah,
I did. I have nothing else to say on it
besides that. But I took my dad in like 2016
to the US Open and it's, it's a cool experience because you have
that and we'll we'll get on to others.
Thanks for watching Crips and Cast July and Tennis Talk.
You ever watch Pat McAfee? They they barely even have a
topic most of the time. We're doing fine.
The audience is not asking for an apology here.
That's fair. But you go to an what, what I
found really cool about it is you have center court, you have
Court One. Obviously all the other courts
are just kind of come first come first serve, at least in the US
Open. And I think it's from what I've
read, it's that way at all the other majors and they have 18
courts. So you can walk around And it's
like I was watching, you know, mixed double S the time.
And there was Martina Hingis. I'm like, you know, 4 rows back
watching her in a mixed double S.
There's a lot of juniors and you could just go and sit like
second row. And it's like, you know, court
17 out there. And I'm not sure if Wimbledon is
a little more intimate, but This Is Us Open and they had full
crowds, but most people don't kind of go out to the other.
And that's where we spend most of for a time.
And it's just like you're still watching high level elite tennis
and it's still a really cool area.
So I I'm my goal is to get to all four majors at some point.
It is. It's always interesting to me
what we do for certain sports and not others.
Like the NCAA tournament could hypothetically be held in a huge
multi court complex with games all happening simultaneously.
Or, or the Indiana high school tournament could be, could
theoretically be be like held that way.
Yet we don't do that. We we hold it in individual
spots. So I always think about, well,
what would the tournament look like if we held it all in one
place? Although it kind of sounds like
this Vegas event might grow into that this this MTE they're doing
with NIL. But I also wonder, like what if
tennis was happening all over the country like the NCAA
tournament does in like clusters of of of matches?
I don't know that like that. It would because that part of it
for me, honestly. Crowds, that was what it would
be. Well, would it though?
Because you can only get so many people into that one venue and
everybody's just buying tickets for that.
And it might be interesting to spread it out a little bit.
It wouldn't be the same type of event, but maybe another event
that's like that would be interesting.
Like the World Cup, because the World Cup plays like eight
different sites in the country and then you move together and
it's like, oh, like, like, is Djokovic going to get out of the
Birmingham regional? Djokovic in Birmingham by itself
is a fascinating. Like wouldn't go.
He'd just be like, no, I'm out. Like I don't do Birmingham, AL.
Sorry, into our Birmingham listeners.
Nothing against Birmingham, but it's, it's Djokovic, not you
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You know, Scott, it's, it's an interesting time right now,
obviously, because we are we're like right on the brink of a lot
of cool stuff happening with IU sports.
And we're still in the kind of the soft period of things where
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But this is a good time to sign up for things because it's easy
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So please sign up. It would be great to have you.
Also, I, I need to apologize. Apparently we in our last
podcast, we got a note on our community Discord from Trent
Hurricanes that I've apparently mispronounced something while
trying to make fun of you. Oh, mayhem, how the tables have
turned. So I, I, I inadvertently and
erroneously pronounced the wine region that everybody knows in
Oregon as the Willamette Valley, and it's apparently the
Willamette Valley. I, I was not aware of this.
You, you, I assumed you as someone who's so cultured, might
have corrected me in the moment, but I'm I'm guessing you were
just trying to be nice to me. Is that right?
I I know my place. I mean, we have the history.
We can go back, but, you know, not I'll do that off pod.
I'm not going to do that on POD. But you know, yeah.
You know, it's, it's nice to know that, you know, all of us
make mistakes, some more than others.
Right. Anyway, those are the things to
think about, I guess. And we got to we got to make
sure if you guys hear us screw up, please let us know.
That's part of the fun. Well, not me.
Like let's I, I get AI get a couple mulligans.
I get three per show like after three then you can start you can
start putting them out there. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Well, Scott, your your screw ups are just kind of like it's the
fabric of the show, Like that's the fiber that keeps the thing
afloat. Yeah.
Yeah, so I'm kidding. Anyway, let's let's tackle a few
things. First of all, Scott, when you
were younger, how much did you play the the the college
football video? Game oh a ton OK, so so the the
if you haven't seen this yet, did you watch the reveal video
that they just put out that like the one they just put out?
I've seen I've seen some of the ones that were coming up as I've
not seen the latest one. I'm kind of I'm kind of at a
point I'm very excited. I'm kind of at a point I'm just
waiting for the game like at this point, like I don't need
any more ampness. I'm just ready for the game and
I have a story about this I can tell later, but go go with your
point. No, no, no, go ahead and tell it
now 'cause I mean this will all tie in, I think.
You know, I mean, to give you an idea of how fired up I am about
this and how I played, I think this was as as always with a lot
of these things, this is pre kids.
For those of you who don't have kids, there will be a
delineation line in your life of pre kids and post kids.
They're both great. But before kids of my
brother-in-law and I, we started a Dynas.
One of the first times you could do an online dynasty.
We did an NCAA Football dynasty. We played 30 years, we saved all
of our draft classes and then we went through and played 30 years
of Madden, importing each one every year.
And it was great, 'cause you're like you're 12 and it's like oh,
like Johnny Oates. Like I got that receiver was
great. Like I'm so excited to get him.
I got to draft him and I, I remembering I got so good with
the four verticals play. I had a receiver like one game.
My brother-in-law got I think like 900 yards receiving in one
game and was like #1 in the Heisman.
And then I just got like 1200 yards.
I would literally take a sack, get back to the one yard line
and then just have 99 yards for a touchdown.
And it was our our stats were. Insane definitely broke the game
and I'm very excited for the game to come back.
Anyway, I would recommend for those who haven't watched it
yet, watching the dynasty breakdown and and how that modes
going, it looks very complex. It looks, it looks, it's like a,
it looks like a very kind of on steroids version of what we saw
in the last couple of itinerations of the game.
And that I'm, I'm fascinated that this is coming back into
our lives. I really am like this.
It feels for, for our generation in particular, I feel like this
is, it's like a missing link. It's like a, an element of DNA
that kind of dropped out of the species and then is back again.
And it's fascinating to think about as a college student
playing these games. I remember James Turner, you
know, host of coaster Crimson cash when when we got to school,
we did not know each other. We got paired.
It was a potluck roommate situation at Teeter Thompson 5
represent. I had a Sega 16 that I bought
off of my my best friend at at home from high school that I
brought with me and I had like I think I had NHL 94.
I had a couple of other games. It was great, great gaming.
But he brought what once he found out I had this, he then
brought down his copy of Bill Walsh college football, like 96,
I think it was, I think, which I think was the first version.
And I remember playing that. I remember then getting a
PlayStation for the first time there.
There was a guy down the hall, the Scotty Whalen I think it
was, that had a PlayStation and we mostly played like NHL 98 on
that. There were people across the
hall that had an N64 which we were playing.
We were playing like FIFA on that.
But then when I got the PlayStation, one of the first
games I bought was NCAA 99. That was the first itineration
there. And it's wild to think about
when you go back like it was. I went back and actually tried
to play it. I have an emulator on my Steam
Deck. I'm able to download some of the
old PS1 ROMs and and play those. And it's like, wow, I forgot how
insanely primitive this was. There were no broadcasters.
Like there you had the PA guy, who, as I learned much later,
was actually the PA guy for UCLA football.
You had, you know, it was a surprise if your game got
selected for television, which is hilarious now when you think
the television has broken college football conferences.
It's broken the whole sport, but at the time was like a big deal,
especially if you're coaching Indiana, if you were on like
regional television, let alone the national broadcast, They
were just so the recruiting was very basic.
I think that first year, if I'm not mistaken, like there like
there was like there was one recruiting cycle.
There weren't two. Like there was just so many
things that were very, very not advanced about the game.
But we all kind of lived this arc through college.
If you were in College in the late 90s, early 2000s into early
professional years, like for both.
Guys like you and me at our age, people who played those early
games, like I remember when Boise State beat Oklahoma in
whatever BCS game that was. And that's when kind of the
national media was like, oh, this team like they play on a
Bluefield. And I was like, I've known this
for 9 years. I know about Boise State, like
the Idaho, you know. Yes.
Yeah, the Dome, it's like with the two walls and the sides,
it's like you kind of you started to you, you know, you
start the game, you play, you know, I love Indiana.
You play with Indiana socks and you go play with like, you know,
Georgia or somebody good or, you know, at that time it was
probably, you know, more like, you know, like the Tennessee or
something with like. Was a big one or yeah, I
remember. I remember even start growing
minor on like halfback tosses all the time.
Yeah, so you. Go into like the low level
schools and you started to really get to know like, like
when Brett Favre was back at, you know, Mississippi State for
some, you know, real sports thing.
It's like, oh, I know that stadium.
I I played three years there anyway, go ahead.
No, it is, it's, I, I just think it's, it's interesting 'cause
it's, it's one of those games that there was a legitimate
reason, obviously why it stopped getting made.
And it, it's, but it's fascinating that with all the
changes that have happened in college football, it's coming
back. And I mean, there's the, the
nostalgia that we're getting from people in advance of this
game coming in is like nothing I've seen in a while.
And I think it's great. It's, it's to some degree, it's
one of the few things like in, in pop culture that feels like
it really worth looking forward to If you are a guy who likes
sports, I'm sure there's, we have some of our female
listeners who who will play and will be interested.
But it, it always felt like a very much like if you were in
high school or college when that game was happening, it was in
some way, shape or form a part of your life.
And it's it just kind of drifted away.
And like many other things that we were used to, like, you know,
non superhero movies or, you know, like the other things
along those lines, it just was it felt like something that
wasn't ever coming back. So it is cool to see it's coming
back now. And and we're starting to see
some real build up because the game releases in less than two
weeks. If you order, if you did the
pre-order. I'm also excited because you
know the the last iteration was like 2000. 12 or 14?
Well, it was, it's it's NCAA 14. It came out in like August.
Yeah, 13 or July 13. I mean, obviously the Internet
was there and there was still all of that.
But it it the the Internet and the, you know, social media
culture has changed so much that, you know, when I was
really deep into it was, you know, College in those posts,
you know, 10 years after college when, you know, it felt like if
we were playing and you wanted to tell me like, oh, I have a
great play and a couple play books.
Like you would just basically write it down and like show it.
To meet like I'm excited for a world now where I can just go
onto a Reddit board and get on a couple of messages and just see
like, all right, where's the four verticals play I want to
run and like who, what are the variations?
Can I watch some YouTube videos of somebody scoring with this?
Like I, there's a whole outside world of playing this game that
wasn't available to to you and I when we were really into it that
I'm excited to see that kind of develop and.
Flourish as well. Yeah, it's it'll be it'll be
really fascinating as we move forward here with everything
because it's just like there there's always the chance the
game isn't going to be good. But I will say, the more I see
in these preview videos at least feels like they've gotten the
features right. I mean that, you know, the big
issues that we've had with the game, you know, the the older
issues were it was kind of clunky in terms of how the game
played, especially in those later editions.
I got a little feature heavy and I didn't think that the actual
on field action was at the level that I would have liked it to
have been. And then obviously the concern
has been microtransactions, which I think they'll still be
some of that. You're not going to get away
from that, unfortunately in, in 2024.
But it does look really good. And then the features that
they've decided to put in thus far that we've seen have looked
really good. And the, the thing I'm really
fascinated about, you said you were playing with your friends
in an online dynasty. Like, I never really did that
because by the time the online dynasties really became a thing,
I didn't know you were playing in an online dynasty.
I never got an invite. So you know it's it'll.
Be coming, it'll be coming. We'll see.
I mean, you can do 32 different people in an online dynasty from
what I've heard. So that will be fascinating to,
to watch this play out. What I'm a little concerned
about, and I think you should be as well.
And I, this is a, a thing that I've I've that's been shared by
people. You don't realize how bad you
get at playing video games as you get older.
Games like this that require like, reactions.
And so we've all been on ice for 10 years with this.
I know I have not been playing Madden.
Have you been playing Madden regularly in the lead up to
this? I've not.
I used to like I used to like basketball games, which two
quick stories, one you talk about rudimentary.
I went back and I still have some of my I've emulators, but I
have some of the old like my Super Nintendo still works.
I went back and played NCAA basketball, which I think was
the 1st 3D version of of basketball.
And it is, it's way raw. I mean, it's interesting because
it's the, it's the view we now have, but it's just like it's a
blue background, just kind of this blue like Tronscape that
just goes on forever. It's really bizarre.
My, my son has gotten into two K so he's been playing an absolute
ton of 2K. I've gone and played some and
it's been kind of fun. It is it's tough, man.
Like yeah, my the skills of atrophied and you and I grew up
in AD pad button world the the thumb sticks like elite and
basketball was always a a tougher game to play than
football. Just the the geometry and the
way to make things work were always tougher.
But like if you don't use those middle sticks on on 2K, you
can't do 98% of it. It's like, and the game just
kind of like, well, you're not going to be able to do no look
passes like it's just not something you you're going to be
able to do. So I'm curious see how that fits
in because if it, if there's going to need to be a lot of
thumb stick work, I might need to, to start working out the
thumbs on this. Cause yeah, it's it's definitely
a much different gaming environment.
I wonder if there's AI. Think EA actually blew a golden
opportunity here. This is where I was leading to.
I feel like they should offer an online boot camp for old people.
You know, if you're over 30, you get, you can you, can you just
pay 4 bucks and you go. You can practice ahead of time
'cause I just, you know, I, I have a lot of former students
who are friends of mine now who I'd like to have in an online
dynasty. I think it'd be fun, but I am.
I'm actually kind of petrified about getting obliterated by
people 10/15/20 years younger than me playing this game.
And I feel like I need some training.
And certainly I'm going to download it as soon as it gets
started. I'll probably just block out of
work for a couple of days so I can try to get up to speed.
But I, I really think there's a chance that we might have to
segregate by age category with this game because I am worried
about just not being able to compete.
Because you see this in, in other online gaming
environments. You see it if you play FIFA
online or some of these other games online.
It's not FIFA anymore, I know, but whatever where you just
can't keep up. And it's actually an interesting
trend in E sports. If you, if anybody follows E
sports where like the average career life span of an E sports
athlete, quote UN quote is really short.
And we're talking about like you're out by 22 because you
can't keep up with what's going on with people that are 1819
years old. So this will be a fascinating
thing. I, I'm, I'm looking forward to
hearing all of the stories online about, you know, people
our age or slightly younger just getting boat raced.
In important games it's it's possible or you could just have
the Galen rule where it's like, all right, everyone else is
Sunbelt and I'm Georgia right, That's the way we're going to
hold I'm. Sorry, I get to play on varsity
level. You're playing on Heisman.
It's, you know, that's how it goes.
One of the things I used to do is I would just focus on getting
really good at offense and then even playing defense, you know,
a lot of times I would just SIM the defense.
And then when I was playing a real person, I would still just
kind of like I'd pick an off a defensive lineman and just I
would just put the controller down.
It's like sometimes the the game I'll just it's, it's almost like
the old Tecmo Bowl. Like I just hope the defense I
picked kind of does well and then I might just run after If
you're doing a quarterback sneak.
Well, all right, so let's hit a couple other things before we
wrap up here, So. Last last video game thing.
I just got to say you were talking about this earlier.
It's just a one moment. I have to commend you on a super
funny like remembering in a line when you were talking about
these games coming out last time and you mentioned like one of
the last years they came out with the game and their big
thing was like pylon or pylon pylon.
Physics. It's.
Just I remember that and I remember thinking like who
cares? Like who care?
I just this is just like a callback like I had not thought
of that for 10. Years.
Well, yeah, and when we were first thinking when they were
talking about this game happening last year as I was
this is where I was worried because it's like this is how
how far that franchise had kind of fallen in terms of EAI.
Don't know it's it's yeah. So I I was this is what happens
with my brain folks is like random stuff sticks in my head
for no good reason whatsoever and that's go ahead anyway, so a
couple of things we wanted to hit.
We had some questions Jim Hoff asked.
Antoine Randall L and Vaughn Dunbar were both named on the
2024 College Football Hall of Fame induction ballot.
What do you think their chances are of getting in?
And yeah, this is one of those things that I, first of all, I,
I wanted to talk to you about the the College Football Hall of
Fame. Is this something you ever think
about? No.
OK, I don't either, which is an interesting thing.
It's like Hall of Fame's in general.
I feel like we're much bigger deals in certain sports before.
Like I feel like the only two that really matter and are
relevant to people are the Baseball Hall of Fame, which has
become almost not worth paying attention to because it just
feels like a bunch of kids fighting with each other now and
gatekeeping. And then the Pro Football Hall
of Fame, which does feel weirdly like almost more relevant than
the Baseball Hall of Fame in that it feels like mega
exclusive in a lot of ways given the huge number of people that
play football and have played football.
But anyway, putting that aside, I can't really, if you ask me
like how many people are in the College Football Hall of Fame, I
don't, I wouldn't get it within a probably 100.
If you ask me, where is the College Football Hall of Fame,
right, I I'm not sure I'd be able to answer that question.
I I mean, I know it's in Atlanta, but, but it wasn't in
Atlanta for a long time. I and I think it was in South
Bend for a while, but I always remember like going to Kings
Island and they had like a sign for like a College Football Hall
of Fame. But it didn't.
It was like, is that the real College Football Hall of Fame?
I don't think it was, but it also got me thinking, I have no
idea, like does Indiana have any players in the College Football
Hall of Fame? And so I had to look this up.
Do do you know if Indiana has any football players in the
College Football Hall of Fame? I don't.
I mean, I would assume Anthony Thompson would be in.
He is. He was in the class.
He's actually the most recently elected member.
He was elected in 2007. I'm going to mess the name
George Taliferro. Georgetown Pharaoh's in.
Yes, he was. He was in the class of 81.
Yeah. So that that that it's there are
only three other members. Indiana has five did.
Mallory, make it. No.
OK, Well, if he did, he didn't make it as from Indiana like
this. I think you had to go to the
school. And though the other three are
PP OS who most people don't remember, he was actually a, a
very high draft pick in the, I think the 40s or 50s Zora
Clevenger, who some people might remember that name.
And then John Tavenner, who I have not even heard of.
And then there's actually two other people when you type in
Indiana that that pop up, but they are both from Indiana
University of Pennsylvania, which does not count.
However, one of those two people is Frank Cignetti, the father of
Kern, Indiana, head coach Kurt Cignetti.
Oh. There you go.
There you. Go.
But no, To answer Jim's question, I wish I had any kind
of an idea of like what the chances are that that either
Antoine or von Dunbar would get in.
I I had to go look at the criteria for being in and for
being inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame.
And, and so the the criteria of this are apparently the
following. A player must have achieved
major first team All America recognition, which certainly
Antoine fits under. A player becomes eligible for
consideration 10 years after his last year.
Both of them qualify. Football achievements are first,
but the post football record as a citizen is also weighed.
That's interesting. Players must have played their
last year of intercollegiate football within the last 50
years. So there's a kind of a time out
on this. You have to have ended your
professional career prior to the time of nomination, I'm assuming
as a player, not as a coach. And then coaches have to have
had at least 10 years of head coaching experience, coached at
least 100 games and had at least a 600 winning percentage, which
has been, I think there's a controversy there involving
like, I think Mike Leach, who's like right below that, that mark
because of something. Anyway, looking at that, I, I
don't think Von Dunbar has a great chance of getting in,
given that he had a relatively short college career since he
was a junior college transfer. I, I think Antoine might have a
decent chance, you know, and, and I think he might be the best
bet. And, you know, when I read that
criteria, it's, it's hard to think of other IU players that
would be in the mix, you know, given that particular set of
criteria. You know, just because in the
last 50 years, other than Anthony Thompson, I can't think
of a whole lot of other people who had that set of like
national accolades and, and made a mark on the game other than
Antoine Randallel. I mean, it's, you know, there's,
there's certainly been great players.
There's been players that have been drafted high, there's been
players that have been named All Americans, but very few that
kind of would rise to the level that you might expect.
Yeah. I mean, everybody I can think of
kind of had a one year, one year run, but didn't really have a
two year run. You know, maybe Tevin Coleman
with that. That's also what kind of felt
like a one year, A1 year thing, you know?
I also don't think Tevin Coleman had like major, I guess he was I
guess he was he was a unanimous all American in 2014.
He was first team all big 10. So maybe that maybe that would
be enough. But I but again, that's the kind
of player I'm talking about where it's like, I don't know
that anybody really in 20-30 years we'll look back and say,
man, you remember that Tevin Coleman season at Indiana.
When they something you mentioned in your last podcast
that it it it bears mentioning again and again.
It now is rearing its head again the 2001 football season with
Indiana over scheduling. You know, I'm I'm rehashing
everything you said, but it's like it's great content deserves
a second airing. Yes, and we're going to come
back to more pylon dynamics here at the end.
But you have North Carolina State, Utah and you know,
Kentucky or their non conference games.
They lose Utah. It is at Indiana and they lose
28 to 26. It's a close game.
You you pull that out. That Indiana team is now what,
six and five? They're probably going to a
bowl. If you give him two cupcakes
there, maybe they're seven and four.
And maybe now Antoine Randall L is a Heisman finalist and now he
can add that to his resume for the College Football Hall of
Fame in a location to be named later in in my mind.
But you know, it's like over scheduling maybe is going to
cost Antoine Randall all the ability to be in the College
football Hall of Fame and also being a Heisman finalist because
then Indiana plays in a bowl and like it, it changes the entire
memory of that season outside of Indiana even and what he did.
So it that's the first thing I thought of is like, damn it, you
know, the scheduling is, is kind of screwing this up again.
You you realize, you may not remember that game, but Indiana
lost that game. They they missed an extra point
and missed the field goal. That that and obviously lost by
two, which which that did not help matters anything.
But yeah, it's it's pretty fascinating when you think about
the just the way that some of this stuff went for IU.
And, you know, we talked about Anthony Thompson missing out on
a bowl because Indiana loses at the end of that 1989 season.
And they go 5:00 and 6:00. Losing the Heisman and he might
have won the Heisman. Right.
I mean, I think he finished second in the Heisman and that
but but again, that was a season where, you know, Indiana goes
five and six and you know, one of their losses was at Kentucky,
which yes, that was a it was a it was a rivalry game.
But again, it's like they played, they played two, they
they played an SEC school in Kentucky and they played
Missouri, who was a Big eight school, you know, in the non
conference. They had one like easy game in
the non conference, which was Toledo and you that Big 10 that
year. Like they lose at Ohio State,
They lose at Michigan, who was fifth in the country.
They got blown out at home by Michigan State and they lose at
at Illinois, who was 12th in the country.
Like that was that was a pretty good team for Indiana.
They they had a, they had three really good wins in the
conference, including a big win at Wisconsin, they beat
Northwestern, they beat Minnesota, but just no margin
for error. In some of these seasons.
It really does make you think if you go back, like if you just
take the easy road or the easier Rd., the history is just
slightly different enough that maybe there's some momentum that
you can build on. Well, no.
And you have, I mean, it's so funny 'cause that, you know,
when we were in school, this is where time just messes with your
mind. But when you and I were in
school, the Anthony Thompson era felt like eons before us.
I mean, just felt like that might have been, you know, punt,
John punt time. Like that was just 50 years ago.
It was only, you know, 12 years before we were in school, the
Anthony Thompson was there. Now I look back at, you know,
things that happened 12 years ago and it's like doesn't seem
like that long ago. But you know, you you change a
couple of things here. I know we're playing the what if
game, but I've always done this with IU football.
Like you give a couple wins that, you know, won one or two
wins in that season, that team goes to a bowl, maybe Anthony
Thompson wins a Heisman. So that is in what, 8088, you
know. He was 89, but yeah.
Sorry, so he has a he has a Heisman win and 89 and maybe a
bowl win or whatever. Only 10 years later, you now
have another player from Indiana in the Heisman finalist and
Antoine Randallel, if maybe they schedule a little easier.
And now it's like, all right, Indiana like 10 years.
You have two a Heisman winner and a finalist.
Like no one's going to write a book, but like that's, that's
pretty good like that. That might be better than a lot
of schools you would think of that are in the Big 10.
Like you might be the I don't have the the list in front of
you. There's probably only a couple
schools in the Big 10 who would have a better track record of
Heisman Trophy winners. I don't know if it leads to
anything, but it definitely is better than where we're at now
where we have nobody who's won a Heisman.
I don't know. And it's just like you, you
start thinking like that would only be 10 years apart to having
two Heisman Trophy finalists. That's pretty Dang good.
And I think a lot of it goes back to scheduling.
Did you know I'm looking at the, the, the College Football Hall
of Fame ballot here? 5.62 million people have played
college football and only 1074 players have been inducted,
which apparently is 21 hundredths of a percent of all
of the participants. So it's, I guess it's a great
honor if you make it into that, that echelon.
There's also a ton of people nominated like go, go check out
the, the, the FBS player candidate capsule BIOS alone
there. I mean, I, I have not counted
them, but Antoine Randall L and Von Dunbar are in there with a
ton of people. I mean, and it's, it's, I mean,
frankly, like it's names like Michael Vick and Peter Warwick
and Terrell Suggs and Tequila spikes and Alex Smith and Ron
Rivera. And I mean it's a, it's a loaded
group of people. It's, it's, I don't know.
So we we'll keep our fingers crossed on all of that, but I
that way I just wanted to make sure we followed up on Jim's
question. So.
Which which logo does Antoine go in with?
Does he go with the Oval or does he go with the Trident?
He only played under the Oval. I know.
So he would go in under. The I would go into the Oval.
Yeah, I don't even know if they have logos they go in under.
That's a good point. Will that make it a PTI segment?
Probably not. I'm guessing that's that's
that's not me as it's the E block.
It's the block that happens during the commercial after the
show's over, Yes, Luke? Belotta asked, given the
corporate on field and uniform sponsorships are seemingly
impending with college sports. And we've seen a lot of this
here lately where it's like, this is going to be a revenue
stream that college athletics are going to have to tap into.
Who would be your choices for corporate logos to appear on our
uniforms and on the field? And Luke says, obviously home
field apparel, Luke knows how the business runs, clearly.
What would be most realistic? What would be most fun?
You have freedom to take it where you want.
So Scott, let's start. If we're going to do a field
logo for IU football, what are you slapping down at the 25 yard
lines? That's a great question.
And by the way, college is up on this.
We haven't seen like the Big 12 is selling big.
It's like they're the Allstate 12 now.
They sold the name big. So, you know, you people got up
in arms about the NBA putting, you know, a small logo on the
jersey. Like college is just unabashed,
Like we'll just sell names on things.
I, I mean, I won't be shocked if Kansas State like just renames
the whole institution, you know, they, they just become like
Deloitte University or something like that.
They. Playoff in Manhattan like we're
like they just get a whiskey to like name like name this this
thing. All right, So what what would
you? Well, I wouldn't have the the
the Hank Bison anywhere on the field.
You're not thinking. You're not thinking that
Endeavour is going to be the on field sponsor.
No, no, no. You know, this is where do you
go with some of the sponsors that you see all over the place
at IU Sports? Like does IU Credit Union take a
spot there? Like, are they big enough?
Or is this something where the Big 10 is stepping in and kind
of like, hey, we're going to help all of our schools?
Let's say this is corporate interest, talking to Indiana
specifically or really talking to Learfield on Indiana's
behalf. Like we want to, we want to
advertise at IU, We want our our logo in front of of you folks,
you fans at IU. Not a Big Ten decision.
This is something that's coming from the school itself.
Yeah. I mean, I think you're going to
see a bank, you're going to probably see a bank in an
apartment complex on one of those two spots.
So I would say probably, you know, IU Credit Union and then,
you know, Hunter Property seems to be spending a lot of money in
the Bloomington market. Maybe Granite Properties, you
know, one of those property companies might be in there.
I, I think this is probably too rich for, you know, a Buffalo
Louie's or one of those. But the, you know, the group
that owns Scotty's, maybe they're in there.
Scotty's Are they around anymore?
Like that? Yeah, sorry.
Very good. Cut that.
No, I don't want any discord.
We're leaving that in sorry, that's that's not going
anywhere. Scotty's blast Scotty's closed I
think like eight years ago in Bloomington, seven-year.
It's been a while, but yes and so.
But we all make mistakes, you know, but I, I do think there
might be one kind of Indiana based larger company that might
want to get into it. So I don't know if you see like
a Lily or a sales force or somebody like that, try and get
into it. But my, my, I'm, I've those are
kind of my initial thoughts. I'm going to let you talk and
then think a little bit too and try and find the right answer.
That's interesting. Well, it feels like there'd be
some good options that won't do it.
Like, I think like Culver's like could use more market share.
The Culver's is very popular here in Bloomington, but they
like Culver's like being a field sponsor for anybody but
Wisconsin kind of is, is against their own brand at this point.
Yeah, You know, I, I keep seeing Zaxby's popping up everywhere.
There's one in, in like Mooresville now or like like in
Camby. I guess it technically is.
It's like they're getting closer to Bloomington.
Gosh, it's, it's one of those deals where I actually feel like
you're, you know, the, the thing about a company like Lily, like
what are you putting the logo on the field for?
If you're Lily, you're probably not getting a lot of consumer
goods coming through that. I wouldn't mind like Southwest
Airlines, who does a ton of business out of Indianapolis.
They do so much investment in sports.
That would seem like not that SW needs a huge amount of of
advertising, but that would seem like a logical kind of
connector. You know, if we're, if we're
just sticking with like, you know, good scale local
businesses, I mean, it would be really cool.
I, you know, and I think the brand exposure for like Upland
would be fascinating given that Upland is, is a regional kind of
quasi national brand. All that you can get Upland in
New York, you can get it in, in Michigan.
It would be fun actually, if at least the Midwestern Big 10
schools, and it's weird that we have to delineate the Big 10
like that now. Well, you know, the the home
country Big 10 schools, if they all got sponsored by like a
prominent local brewery, you know, so like Bells ends up
being the field sponsor at Michigan State or I mean,
there's no culture in Illinois, so we can't really use Illinois,
but like like new Glen do Coors Light.
They're just like we don't have it.
We're just doing we're doing natty light.
Illinois definitely feels like hams territory or something like
that. But like, you know, I you know,
the Iowa gets what is what is that one in Iowa?
Whatever the the is it toppling Goliath?
Is that the, is that the brewery up there?
Yeah, I I new. Blair is for Wisconsin and.
Yeah, I think that would be kind of a cool, especially if there
was a web of those. But anyway, that was that was
kind of what I was thinking there.
So then I look overall I'm fascinated to see what what's
that going to be worth. I mean, because the, the field
sponsorships in particular, that's a lot of TV exposure and
you know, with as many people as watch football, it's, you know,
to me, there's, there's no problem with it.
I mean, it's, it's another way to make money.
It's, it's, you don't even have to put it on the field.
You probably will want to because you're getting 60,000
people, but you could just project it on.
So that'll, I think it'll be an interesting thing to watch.
And I would, I would be on board with the old brewery, you know,
field logo things, the, the logo, the, the jersey patch.
I mean it, it kind of feels like that one.
I, I actually think the jersey patches are you need a, a
company that's got a really recognizable and uncomplicated
logo. Agreed.
Like I was whenever like the Outback Bowl was played, I
always felt like the Outback logo was like way too busy.
You know, it was like I, I, I only know what I'm looking at
because I've driven by so many Outback steakhouses in my
lifetime, But it was like, that's too much to put on the
jersey. So that's you want to avoid
those kinds of things. But that's the thing.
They're just, it doesn't feel like the the companies that are
in Indiana who would like to like do mass consumer marketing
like Cummins doesn't need like a lot of people like, you know,
seeing their logo on a jersey and be like, let me go buy an
engine. Like what, what am I doing
there? And.
Salesforce is way more B to B. The one the one thing I am
thinking, and I think we might have mentioned this on an
earlier podcast, it would be interesting if like Lily is
decides like we're going to bust Ozempic out as its own like
brand sub brand with its own logo and that becomes the logo.
That would be an interesting like let let's put a weight loss
injection drug as the the the jersey logo on a team in the Big
10 and see what happens. Just I'm thinking of like you
have Ozempic on the 20 yard line, but then the 304050 yard
line are all of the sub, all of the the complications and you
got to talk to your doctor. It's just like.
No, no, no. I think you're going the wrong
way with this. I think you have fast food logos
on every like hashtag every 10 yards, and then you have Ozempic
at the 20 and it's like, well, all right, Yep, that's where
you're headed. Yeah, so that's a, that's a
great question because one of the ideas I had to talk to you
about for the pot, which we're not going to do is just like if
every conference is going to sell their name, what company
would go best with the conference?
But it's just, there's too many ways to go that way.
But I it's going to what, what I think is going to be interesting
is, are are I think I know the answer because the answer is
always going to be more money. But are you going to see more
conferences like the the Allstate Big 12 or the Allstate
12 selling way more sponsorships and looking so minor league and
the Big 10 in the SEC kind of being like, all right, we got a
ton of TV money. We don't need to do that.
But I I know where this always goes and this always goes to,
hey, you brought me a check. We're the Ozempic Big 10.
Like that's what's going to happen.
I, I don't know, man. I mean, there was an article in
The Columbus Dispatch yesterday covering Ohio State where, you
know, the, the they have a new athletic director at Ohio State
and he came out and said we're going to have to seek new
sources of revenue to cover revenue sharing with athletes
because they have a $10 million shortfall in their budget.
Now keep in mind, for those who don't know, Ohio State has the
second largest athletic budget in the entirety of college
sports. It's like 210 million.
I think it is somewhere in that range.
It's Texas is the only school with a bigger budget.
But the difference is like, and I've mentioned this on the show
before, so apologies for repeating myself, but Ohio State
sponsors 36 varsity sports. Texas, I think only sponsors
like 22. Indiana sponsors 24.
We've talked about how Indiana sponsors a ton of sports, but
Ohio State sponsors a ton of sports.
And you know, they're either going to have to cut some of
those or they're going to have to do things like this where
they just look for every possible source of revenue.
Now, you know, eventually I think you're going to have some
market correction in terms of coaches salaries because you
can't just, you just can't keep paying coaches the insane
amounts of money that you're paying them with these budgetary
shortfalls coming in. But I think that it is a going
to be really fascinating to watch what happens as these
athletic departments try to come to grips with the sheer amount
of money that they don't have and what they're going to have
to find in order to make it right.
So I'm trying to find I I just, I was trying to think like, all
right, So what company would be best suited to give money to
Ohio State? And I googled like most hated
companies in in America. But like the the list is
bananas. And like it's a list that has
some really ones I wouldn't agree with.
But my thought would be like they'd be perfect match for like
Exxon Mobil, like Shell Oil just.
I mean like. An old behemoth company I I
feel. Like you're, you're, you're
missing maybe some better options here, you know, but I
think I feel like. On the list of most hated
companies, Johnson and Johnson like I guess maybe the the law
is like I don't. I mean, isn't Ohio State isn't
there perfect match like Blackwater?
That's so great because I feel like yes, people hate Johnson
and Johnson because like, you know, they got cancer from
Johnson and Johnson. But but they I don't know how
many people really wake up in the morning and like, you know,
they or they don't use Johnson and Johnson as a pejorative
reference everything wrong with like American like government.
But Blackwater like had that position for many years.
Exxon certainly had it for years as well, you know, so.
They can, they can. Maybe Facebook is up there with
her them. Yeah, I mean, but you know, if
Facebook, I feel like is, is it like they're not evil enough
that this is an interesting thing we need to explore this
space a little bit further. Because there I do like the idea
of I mean, honestly, it feels it with this and with the the lack
of kind of Consumer Focus and quality control.
It's like I feel like Boeing's going to get there at some
point. That's a great Boeing's a great
for college sports as a whole. Like, you know, there's, there's
some analogues there. But yeah, this is this is where
we're at with with the world of college sports now, where we're
we're seriously contemplating like, you know, very poorly
thought about defense contractors as jersey sponsors
for majors, major teams in the sport.
And as long as the check clears, they're going.
To do we're. Going to see, I think we're
going to see things on fields, we're going to see things on
uniforms. So.
So get ready for all of it. Yeah, it's, it's going to be,
it's going to be a wild ride. And I, I'm actually very curious
going back to what we started with and wrapping up with this,
like how much of this ends up in the video game.
You know, the video games on the one hand, the college sports
games, in particular college football, they always kind of
used the commercialization as a element of realism.
You know, they've had like a Nissan drive that, you know,
that they have Brad Nessler voice or they'd have, you know,
a few other things that it would sprinkle in depending on on who
the sponsors were at the time. So I do wonder like how much of
this becomes part of the branding?
And I wondered how much, you know, you talk about
microtransactions like there's a world where you could be like,
hey man, I'm going to spend $200.00 on microtransactions to
buy, you know, digital NIL money for my Indiana virtual football
team. But 20% of that is going to a
real Indiana NIL collective. Like there's a world where EA
Sports could push this into like I'm I'm going to buy NIL money
that's going to going to then fund the school that I want to
fund both virtually and real. I think it's, you know, that
this is going to be the fascinating thing.
It's like everything's on the table and everything, the way
that we think about how this stuff gets funded, if we think
about it at all. And I think a lot of people have
not thought about it at all. It's just going to be
fundamentally altered as we move forward.
And why not? I mean, where else?
You know, the, one of the things in business and, and in
fundraising is you've, you're in donate, you know, trying to
garner donations. You want to get people into a
state where they feel emotionally invested in what
they're giving money to. And you know, that's why to a
large degree, like college athletic departments, like when
you go to, you're going to renew your season tickets.
Well, boom, there's hey, there's the donation form for additional
money that you're going to give on top of this money that you're
already giving. In this case, if you're sitting
there for hours coaching your own team in your fake dynasty
and you're getting, you know, you've got the the fight song
playing constantly, you got the colors.
I mean, you could not be in an environment that is any more
custom made to ask for money than you are right there.
And if you can somehow fit it organically into the play, hey,
that sounds like a marketer's wet dream.
And it also sounds like a horrific psychological
experiment all at the same time. I know we're going back to the
game, like I do wonder if the game's going to have any, any
humor with what's going on where like if you're the coach, can
you come out and complain to your fan base you're not getting
enough NIL dollars? And like, are they going to have
pieces where you can like some of the things we've talked about
jokingly, like, cause a lot of time, you know, and I understand
the game. It's also like the game has
never allowed you when it was there to, you know, break the
BCS and like have a 12 team tournament.
It was always whatever the construct was.
I don't think they're going to have like a conference
realignment generator because they'll just want you to buy the
game again next year with the updated conferences.
But it, I, I wouldn't mind the game having a little bit of
humor with those types of with how crazy things are.
Like can you buy sponsorship? Like can you bitch to your fans?
You're not getting I own dollars and things like that.
Yeah, no, it's a real interesting thing because
ultimately there's a a lot of what occurred before in this
game was the NCAA, because they were the ones controlling the
license would not let certain things in the game like that let
2014 NCLA 2014 and you couldn't do a playoff under the under the
set up it which was weird because there was an addition to
the game. I know it was O2 or O3 where you
could do a playoff and then the NCAA was like, no, no, no, well,
this is this game is not happening because of the NCAA.
This game is happening because of the conferences and because
of the the NIL settlement. So I do wonder if maybe some
humor gets put back in. I was, I was joking with someone
online yesterday or a couple days ago about that, where it's
like, will there be an option to complain about a lack of NIL
support if you're a coach? I mean, there's already, from
what we saw, this is where you need to watch the dynasty stuff
where you can like slide into a recruit's DMS.
But you can also go look at a recruit's social media history
and like get a sense of like what pitches that they need to,
to have given to them based upon what they've tweeted or
whatever, you know, whatever social media they're utilizing.
So maybe there will be some actual like real life funny shit
that goes on with this. I think it could be pretty
fascinating. Or maybe like one of those games
where like, yeah, as a coach, you have to then read the
newspaper, like what's going on in the court hearings.
Like I'm going to read the court cases from 20/20/2028 like
what's going on with the NCAA. Anyway, going to be going to be
interesting 11 last breaking thing, Rocco Miller, my buddy
from College Hoops Bracketology just announced this Indiana
hosting UNC Greensboro in basketball this year, which that
means, as Mike Schumann from the De la Hoosier pointed out, only
three unknown games now for IU in this upcoming season.
So the if you look at the, the the schedule as we currently
think we know it. And based on that, I mean those
3 unknowns should probably just more likely going to be just
nothing. So, so right now it looks like,
you know, from the, from what we've seen in this 2024 25, I
actually don't have the schedule up right now.
I thought I was going to be able to pull it up, but I'm I, I
don't have it at this point, unfortunately.
But you know, scheduling wise, it's it's going to be one of
those where the Atlantis tournament is almost certainly
going to be kind of the the only major thing that you see in the
non conference season. I think you've got some decent
teams. I mean, you know, Sam Houston
State is apparently the, that, that is a, a game that's going
to happen. And Sam Houston State was was a
decent team this last year in Ken Palm.
They finished 142nd. Greensboro actually finished
147th. So that's another team that Mike
Woodson and his staff have scheduled that is not a terrible
team. They're they're right in the
middle of the Ken Palm rankings. We know that Indiana's also
playing Eastern Illinois, Chattanooga, and then they get,
we don't know what the bracket's going to look like for the
Battle for Atlantis, but we know that that's got several pretty
good teams in it. Arizona, Gonzaga, Oklahoma's
there, West Virginia's there, Providence, Louisville,
Davidson. So yeah, some interesting stuff
as far as all that's concerned. I mean, it does.
The only thing I will say is it, you know, if there's no other
real marquee games, it's going to put a real premium on
Atlantis. And depending on how that
bracket breaks, you know, you don't want to be in a spot where
if you, you know, you lose your first game and then you play
Davidson and then maybe you're playing, you know, Oklahoma.
There's a path where you could go to Atlantis and because of
one tough loss, come away with not a lot to show for it from a,
from a, you know, RPI or Ken Palm perspective.
And then you're kind of fighting that battle that we were
fighting all last year. We're just the the non
conference is kind of haunting your entire season.
We're going to get into that as we get closer to basketball
season. But yes, also big
congratulations to the mayor, Adam Howard, who just got named
as the assistant director of recruiting and operations for
Indiana University basketball. If you're on social media at
all, you, you, you probably follow Adam.
If you don't, you should really big congratulations to him.
Nice step in his career as he gets a, a permanent position
with IU and has been a big part. I know of what the program's
done over the last few years. So anyway, that'll wrap it up
for us. I hope those of you who are
listening or watching have a wonderful 4th of July.
Or if you've already had the 4th of July, We have a great weekend
and extended one hopefully for everybody.
Scott, any does the does the neighborhood shoot off its own
special brand of fireworks or like how does this do you get
them imported directly from Macau?
Like how does how does this operate?
Yes. Yes, directly we have a
shipment. It's funny.
I'm laughing only because there is not on our street, but there
is the street behind us. They shoot off fireworks and
they actually have it synced to an app where you can listen to
music and it's like it's a guy who does pyrotechnics and it's
like he does a 20 minute show. It's dynamite every year.
It's sometimes better than the Westfield ones.
The Westfield had drones last year, which is kind of cool.
So we have a pretty solid fireworks show here.
So actually it's July. He always does them on July 3rd,
so he does them a day early. So we are recording this on July
3rd. I'm about to go hop into my
buddy's pool. We're having a pool party and
then we're going to watch the fireworks, assuming it doesn't
rain. How does, how does waffles
handle fireworks? So waffles is my dog, for those
who don't know, I don't, I don't bring inanimate objects to the
to the, to the party. I have my waffles.
I have my French toast and my French toast is scared.
We're very nervous about Scott, my dog.
He's OK with him, honestly. He does no barking.
He's he's more freaked out with squirrels and noises in the
backyard. Fireworks kind of almost are
like beyond the level of noise. It's like if he thinks he hears
a squirrel, he's going nuts. He doesn't do too well.
How how do your dogs do through through fireworks?
Nelson no problems. Nelson could care less, frankly,
or couldn't care less. Stewart really struggles, like
to the point we've had to kind of medicate him a little bit
just to just to calm him down, which makes the the this is the
downside to having the holiday in the middle of the week
because people started shooting, shooting the fireworks off last
Thursday. And they'll go through another
yeah. Week and a half, probably.
Yeah. It's great, great time.
That was not a thing when we were kids, Scott.
Like people just shot the fireworks off on the 4th and a
lot of times you were doing it at home.
It was great. You'd you know, you'd go by the
out of state fireworks and you'd sign the form saying I, I
promise I'm not shooting these off in state, which many of you
think back on that. It's like that was that whole
facade was really stupid, but I would love to know somebody who
got arrested for that. Like that must suck.
That would that would be a really like, come on, man.
Like, really? Conversely, I'd love to know who
actually was like we got to take these out of state like it would
like drive to Illinois and shoot them there.
It's like, wow, I you are not cool.
You you, you are not a person who it would be a whole lot of
fun to hang out with. I'm guessing I'll.
I'll give you a point if you want to cut this.
But like, it's probably the same people who now go to Illinois
and like, we got to smoke this here.
We can't go back to Indiana. I don't know what you're talking
about, Scott. Anyway, all right, we'll, we'll
wrap it up there. Thanks to all of you folks for
listening and thank you, Scott. We'll look forward to talking
more IU football, IU basketball. We're going to have a fun month
of July. Looking forward to the next few
months here as we get ramped up for IU sports season.
Thanks to Hopefield Apparel and thanks to the entire rest of the
back home network. For all those folks, I'm Galen
Clavio. Bring back the Bison.
We'll catch you on the flip side.
So everybody.